Is the Seattle Freeze real? - The Evergrey

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  • @belovedqueen4572
    @belovedqueen4572 5 років тому +38

    I've lived in Washington for 5 years. The Seattle freeze is so real.

    • @neoconnor4395
      @neoconnor4395 5 місяців тому

      I'm leaving for Austin in 10 days. TIRED of this crap. I'm "Seattle frozen" - this is when you give up on trying to make new friends..

  • @barcidstudios
    @barcidstudios 6 років тому +46

    Ive been in Seattle most my life, its a beautiful place. But its not a comfortable place unless you are ok with being indoors for 99% (literally) of your life there. Seattle is a business city. Seattle freeze is very real. The best way i can explain it is that although people are incredibly polite here, they only act that way to get through their day easier, when in reality people here are very cold and generally quite snobby.

    • @5zazen
      @5zazen 6 років тому +11

      Barca Rigby polite there? Liars and antisocial is more accurate. Im from there and escaped.

    • @dsandeman
      @dsandeman 6 років тому +9

      People are not polite in Seattle. Rarely will someone the keep a door open for you, thank you for keeping a door open for them, make eye contact or respond to a hello while walking down the street.

    • @josh021588
      @josh021588 5 років тому +6

      @Barca Rigby
      AMERICA IS A BUSINESS COUNTRY!

    • @Mayakran
      @Mayakran 4 роки тому

      Dion S really? People hold doors for me all the time and I’ll make conversation with strangers. Maybe it’s a suburbs thing...

    • @barcidstudios
      @barcidstudios 4 роки тому +4

      Relative to the east coast people in Seattle are incredibly polite, although they are not upfront and prefer to shy from strangers. People on the east coast are the direct opposite.

  • @hemenkareamg6957
    @hemenkareamg6957 6 років тому +25

    Seattle freeze is so true. I'm kurdish.an immigrant who came to Seattle two years ago. This city is so depressing with freeze people they will talk to you only when they are drunk. Yeah they are polite a nice but being friendly and hospitality is different. There's so depressed and never want to hang out with you. At the beginning I thought that's because I am a foreign person and I'm not interesting for them, but they act the same with other people from Seattle

    • @francesmunzen5897
      @francesmunzen5897 3 роки тому +3

      You are so right! It's not about hating people from outside, they don't even want to talk their neighbour as that man admitted!

  • @thomasmaggio1718
    @thomasmaggio1718 5 років тому +22

    The Seattle freeze is real. I can't stand the people here.

  • @AlyviaAshley
    @AlyviaAshley 8 місяців тому +4

    Moved here 4years ago as my dream state. I’m now diagnosed with depression and hate everyone here. 🌈🤗

    • @AlyviaAshley
      @AlyviaAshley 8 місяців тому

      (Long story on why it was my dream state)

  • @dissonantpulse
    @dissonantpulse 6 років тому +28

    It's real and it's sucks

  • @shootinthebreeze2058
    @shootinthebreeze2058 6 років тому +14

    Lived there for 13 yrs, here are some words to describe my encounter with the natives. What I've learned in 13 yrs, people are insecure, conceited, know-it-alls, competitive, two faced, self centered, depressed, delusional, moody, ignorant, rude, deserters, untrustworthy, flakey af(invited people over my house, made food, and all started dropping out one by one at the last minute) but they want me to come over their house.... inconsiderate, groupies or cliquish, fake, or they only talk to u when it's a nice day when the sun is out. Most of the time their attitudes change with the weather. Although, there are some good things about them, these things make it hard to believe in the good.

    • @Vanessa-oq7md
      @Vanessa-oq7md 5 років тому +4

      Very true. I am counting down to the day I can move my family out of this hell hole/shit-hole. I don't like what Seattle is turning me into and how the whole freeze and unfriendliness is affecting my children.

    • @nikkic83
      @nikkic83 5 років тому +1

      Shootin theBreeze you nailed it!

    • @Xnsbzvz
      @Xnsbzvz 2 роки тому

      spot on bro 👌

    • @neoconnor4395
      @neoconnor4395 5 місяців тому

      I'm moving to Austin in 10 days. Seattle can suck it. I've lived out here for most of my life and the only group of friends I found, turned out to be a cult. I'm not even kidding.
      Bye bye Seattle!

  • @5zazen
    @5zazen 6 років тому +18

    Lived in Bellevue 77-90. Seatle 90-94. People are not nice there in Seattle. I always thought it was me. There's a reason grunge rockers killed themselves. Seattle. I went to Canada to find a wife. Overpriced area with awful grayness too many months of the year. It shouldn't feel bad because it's moderate healthy temperature and clean drinking water, but it does. I'm glad I left in 2000.

  • @neoconnor4395
    @neoconnor4395 5 місяців тому +1

    The ewok guy who is like, "I'm not inviting you into my house! I'm a part of the problem!" Its like, yeah! You are!
    You're a part of the problem!
    After becoming "Seattle frozen" I realized, you know what? I don't wanna go to that guys house anymore!
    I'm moving to Austin!

  • @jeffreyhawthornegoines8727
    @jeffreyhawthornegoines8727 6 років тому +13

    I am glad that I never moved there, lol, they sound fiercely and proudly introverted, very Northern European in feeling and mentality

    • @donalddewar1502
      @donalddewar1502 6 років тому +2

      Jeffrey Hawthorne Goines Northern Europe is definitely a good comparison. Definitely noticed a "Hamburg freeze" when I lived there for a year, that said the city itself was boss. Very keen to go to Seattle at some point and see just how alike these two major northern port cities really are.

    • @francesmunzen5897
      @francesmunzen5897 3 роки тому

      @@donalddewar1502 I'm sure it will fulfill those expectations 😂

    • @roberterniso5475
      @roberterniso5475 3 роки тому

      You're only missing the Nice Train rides from Seattle to Vancouver B.C. Super Gorgeous!!!✌️.

  • @artmartinez4048
    @artmartinez4048 2 роки тому +3

    When i was up there for a while i did feel kind of a cliquish vibe.

  • @guitarchick469
    @guitarchick469 2 роки тому +5

    Seattle freeze is so real. I cannot stand living here and can’t wait to move. Moved 18times and never seen such an unfriendly place in my life.

    • @AlyviaAshley
      @AlyviaAshley 8 місяців тому

      LITERALLY lived in 5 cities in different states and this place makes me hate people…. More than the healthy amount I already did

    • @Brotherken1234
      @Brotherken1234 6 місяців тому

      If you move to Denver it'll be the 19th place that you hate!

  • @jeffca
    @jeffca 6 років тому +32

    awkward or racist LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @stay4309
    @stay4309 5 років тому +12

    Funny enough, the Seattle freeze affects most of Washington.

    • @pierrefontecha
      @pierrefontecha 2 роки тому

      Decades ago, many reasons why people moved to WA to get away from the hustle and bustle of big city life. I bet many of these people were introverts to begin with, just like much of the individualistic (introverted) groups that came before. Natives, gold diggers, software geeks, airplane builders, ship builders, fishermen, hunters, military personnel, Filipinos....

  • @bl6797
    @bl6797 6 років тому +11

    The only thing I don’t like about the area are the horrible restaurants....I’m a food snob from NYC though.
    And people with low energy personalities, but compared to New Yorkers, most of the country have low energy personalities.

  • @Dubbadizzo86
    @Dubbadizzo86 2 роки тому +3

    I live in Seattle. People here are polite, but not friendly.
    People will say thank you, and excuse me, wave and say hello, but no one here seems interested in getting involved with you or your life. They sort of keep you at arms length, preferring to keep we'reto themselves and try not to say anything offensive, which usually means not sharing anything personal.

  • @LS-yf6vu
    @LS-yf6vu 3 роки тому +3

    I am a relocated hygienist from NY. Just got here, and been here before in 2015. I am Spanish, have a big accent, I have never experienced that racism or rudness or coldnes from people in WA. People in WA are super polite and nice. Maybe it is because I am comparing to NY ad I love the rain and better yet the ever green trees :)

    • @LS-yf6vu
      @LS-yf6vu 3 роки тому

      @UCs1UIUF6XthJSCBAIGst2lw not way. Yes I finally moved in, being here for abt 3 months-No regrets at all! Life is awesome here if you love the outdoors :)

    • @LS-yf6vu
      @LS-yf6vu 3 роки тому

      @UCs1UIUF6XthJSCBAIGst2lw you got one already! :) we are from East gurl!

  • @billbirkett7166
    @billbirkett7166 4 роки тому +5

    It's very real, but as an introvert, I can sympathize a lot. Seattle is a very introverted city, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. However, there's a big difference between being a friendly introvert and being a pompous, elitist introvert, which is what many in the city come across as. Being a big city with many problems, it's easy to see why people there are often so afraid to talk, especially when introversion is the main 'vibe' of the place. That doesn't mean it's a healthy social situation, it just means that it's understandable. So I think people need to understand that since, introvert ≠ asshole automatically, there is a distinction they need to be making, instead of painting their view of an entire metropolitan area with a broad and condemning brush. At the end of the day, I would say the positives of the Seattle mentality are that people are, broadly speaking, authentic and trustworthy. The negatives are that people are more emotionally unhealthy and uncomfortable than in other big cities. I doubt given the weather and the levels of ambient anxiety that there is much to be done about it. But, if you go over to Bremerton to see non-metropolitan western Washington, you will discover the positive side of that introverted culture (remember it was founded by Scandinavians who are ridiculously introverted anyway). If you get used to Seattle, I think most people will come to love it, but in a social sense, it's definitely something that you have to get used to. Also, if you are coming from the east coast, you will have much more social freedom than you are probably used to--it's just that the price is that you'll probably feel lonely for a while.

    • @francesmunzen5897
      @francesmunzen5897 3 роки тому +4

      It's mainly just the lack of vit.D at the womb.
      So in simple terms, if you were born there, you are pretty much done

    • @bryan08bry4
      @bryan08bry4 3 роки тому

      Im going to study english there and I am introvert

  • @fortuneh1851
    @fortuneh1851 5 років тому +7

    Condescension, EGO and ignorance are one of the reasons why someone will say “ a good neighbor is the one you don’t have to know “. Same neighbors may have to perform CPR on you to save your miserable life someday.
    It’s also funny to see these proud Seattle natives suddenly become nice and friendly when they’re terminally ill or when they have cancer.

  • @MW2024-ec4qq
    @MW2024-ec4qq 4 місяці тому

    The freeze serves as a cautionary sign

  • @jamiegrasso4365
    @jamiegrasso4365 5 років тому +10

    It's overpriced and cold

  • @theacidtonguedconservative3865
    @theacidtonguedconservative3865 6 років тому +10

    Man they're talking about this as if it's a problem. I'm moving to the Seattle area soon. I wish frequently that people would mind their own business. I don't know you, why are you talking to me? I also love the rain. I'm going to be right at home when I move there in a few days.

    • @yyoshi18
      @yyoshi18 5 років тому

      Matthew Rollick how has it been so far?

    • @BuyTheDip627
      @BuyTheDip627 5 років тому +3

      Yoshi marcellus he doesn't want to be bothered lol.

    • @ericg808
      @ericg808 4 роки тому

      @@BuyTheDip627 lmaoo!! that shits funny af!!

    • @BuyTheDip627
      @BuyTheDip627 4 роки тому

      e. zilla My pleasure. My work here is done.

    • @francesmunzen5897
      @francesmunzen5897 3 роки тому

      Where are you native to?

  • @ChrishNow
    @ChrishNow 5 років тому +3

    This makes me not want to move here

    • @nikkic83
      @nikkic83 5 років тому +4

      Chrish I wouldn’t. I wish I could move out.

    • @francesmunzen5897
      @francesmunzen5897 3 роки тому +1

      @@nikkic83 so is it that hard to make friends? Sounds scary

  • @helterskelter4350
    @helterskelter4350 4 роки тому +6

    I moved 2 hours north of Seattle. My family experienced a similar phenomenon. SOME are friendly, bot most seem unfriendly, a bit mental . . . and too goddamn liberal.

  • @robertvondarth1730
    @robertvondarth1730 3 роки тому +1

    I was born here, on Capitol Hill
    When I grew up in the 70’ and 80’ it was clicky
    But we could just show up at a friends house unannounced with them wetting their pants.
    But not as cold as it is today
    Passive Aggressive behaviors have been normalized.
    IT culture has some blame, as it’s social structures are not based on teamwork, but one-upmanship.
    Billionaire autistic power ethics, video game player gamesmanship vs sportsmanship
    It’s water cooler ethics, a morbid fear of being shunned and judged that can damage your job, no family or social roots to lean on, everyone is on their own.
    It’s fear of covert social stigma and judgment, all the while we wear virtue badges of nonjudgmental inclusiveness.
    We are being isolated and so controlled by high functioning sociopaths.
    Just warm up people, it’s ok

  • @geoffreyrothwell2707
    @geoffreyrothwell2707 6 років тому +1

    I am watching these videos like an anthropologist. My family moved to Seattle in 1857, then to the Eastside in 1875 (see family cabin at the Evergreen State Fair grounds). Even though my father grew up there, i grew up in Mt Vernon and Richland, then went to college at TESC. But i was allergic to the mold and moved to the Bay Area for 35 years. However Oakland was not a good place for my daughter, so she moved in with my sister on the Eastside. I visited every month and got reconnected with my Seattle friends never noticing a freeze. The question is why. Most people blame it on the rain. I blame it on the traffic, which is almost as bad as LA. It divides Seattle into isolated neighbors. And if you are not into your neighbors, you end up hanging out with.the same people you’ve known most of your life. So why do you think Seattle is more frozen than SF Bay or LA? There is no freeze in Portland! Why?

    • @francesmunzen5897
      @francesmunzen5897 3 роки тому

      The sky is not as overcast, although it's still pretty bad and therefore I'm sure people more on the introvert side

  • @pierrefontecha
    @pierrefontecha 2 роки тому

    3:00 I think is where the locals of Seattle who are actually 'cool' tend to stay away from the 'act stoopid' areas by their own awareness of safety and inclusion. Don't expect the 'cool' people like Royce to hang out TOO much in tourist areas, catch that vibe in the neighborhoods like Beacon Hill and Wallingford for example. The Freeze can be skated on, easily.

  • @26gdagod.62
    @26gdagod.62 3 роки тому +2

    The freeze is real

  • @353735373
    @353735373 5 років тому +4

    polite but not friendly. and i am a seattlite

  • @taianders2256
    @taianders2256 3 роки тому +2

    I was told I act like a Seattleitte by someone from there. So apparently I'd fit right in. I'll find out in a month or so.

  • @aelarose._
    @aelarose._ 5 років тому

    Off topic ~ I really like the background music in the video. Where can I find it or something similar??

  • @zepeda2323
    @zepeda2323 4 роки тому +2

    I’m originally from the Bay Area and I actually hate Pacific north west...why don’t I leave cuz I don’t make 100k per year so I can’t..but I find most of the people are not nice at all...most people is stuck up and act weird...I think they are depressing people cuz of the weather and don’t know it

    • @francesmunzen5897
      @francesmunzen5897 3 роки тому

      But if it's the weather, why transplants still don't act like that even after been living there a while?

  • @westonmickey3890
    @westonmickey3890 2 роки тому +2

    I've noticed that most the people who placate to the Seattle freeze anomaly are incredibly introverted and probably not enjoyable to be around to begin with

  • @tonyaosborne6881
    @tonyaosborne6881 2 роки тому +3

    And now you really can't go into Seattle without a bodyguard - it's screwed because of the political cowards who run this once great city. I love it and don't see myself leaving Washington State because I love all things outdoors and I love LOVE the weather but in all honesty the city has gone to sh#t - very sad. I did end up moving out of King County and am so happy I did. The Seattle freeze is that last thing you need to worry about now.

  • @rengirl94
    @rengirl94 4 роки тому +3

    People going to Seattle complaining that no one wants to make awkward small talk with them. As an awkward introverted person from Texas this sounds like my dream city

    • @francesmunzen5897
      @francesmunzen5897 3 роки тому

      Were you born on the spring?

    • @bryan08bry4
      @bryan08bry4 3 роки тому +1

      Im introverted too and that's sound good for me

    • @AlyviaAshley
      @AlyviaAshley 8 місяців тому

      @@bryan08bry4trust me as an introvert it eventually gets old and you do eventually want someone to just be kind to you for once

    • @bryan08bry4
      @bryan08bry4 8 місяців тому

      @@AlyviaAshley hi you live in Seattle? Yes I understand

    • @barcidstudios
      @barcidstudios 6 місяців тому

      Well when compared to Texas it's better on almost every front. I'm not republicrat or demican but TX just feels like the starting map of Minecraft, a soulless flatland of parking lots and repeat chain establishments all spaced apart by half mile endlessly in every direction for 1000 miles.

  • @Halfdead211
    @Halfdead211 5 років тому +10

    Seattle is a lame,boring po dunk town full of People who are pissed off they Don't live in SF or LA..
    You know how you can tell a city sucks,is when everyone who's from there has to constantly tell you how great it is

    • @lukegsr95
      @lukegsr95 5 років тому +1

      So wrong i dont want any part of california i hate how popular seattle is i hate how bad traffic is i really dont like all the god damn californians coming here i just want to fish hike kyak shoot my guns go hunting and not have to deal with fake plastic liberals. the fucking junkies in the city really get under my skin maybe its time to go farther north to escape from all this dumb shit

    • @dd4138
      @dd4138 5 років тому

      Lol this is so TRUE! When I was moving out of the state everyone couldn’t believe it “but it’s so beautiful here”

  • @argo09
    @argo09 7 років тому +1

    really nice video and well said !

  • @kjrey9878
    @kjrey9878 3 роки тому +2

    I'm from Vegas (26 years) and moved to Seattle 1 year ago. I'm good with the Seattle freeze. My motto is a state farm commercial, "Like a good neighbor, Stay Over There".

  • @mishaladara
    @mishaladara 3 роки тому +1

    1:03 black people make friends because black people stick together in Washington no one else does.

  • @jessicabarrera7864
    @jessicabarrera7864 4 роки тому

    I think the weather is a part of it but overall Seattle is a beautiful green city I just moved to cali and I dont like it I would go back to Seattle in a blink I really miss it

  • @treyvincent1759
    @treyvincent1759 5 років тому +3

    TLDR; yes - it's real. It's VERY real. Do the right thing - join a TRANSPLANT MeetUp.

  • @antonioro9409
    @antonioro9409 6 років тому +2

    Sounds like New York and New Jersey too.

    • @TheEviIOyo
      @TheEviIOyo 6 років тому

      Antn R. There is no freeze in NYC unless ur a minority in one of the Burroughs like Staten island.

    • @DiddysPower41
      @DiddysPower41 6 років тому

      Nah it sounds like Upstate New York

  • @Kamandi1971
    @Kamandi1971 5 років тому +2

    okay i came to seatte when i was 6 in 1977 this city was the best in late 70;s 80;s snd up to like 1998 thast when this city went to shit the seattle freeze started around that time too everyone here now is not from here millions of idiots the town has been invaded by people from other states and other countries theirs your seattle freeze

    • @peek-a-boos
      @peek-a-boos 2 роки тому

      So you're saying you're part of the problem?

  • @Jennifer-di4nl
    @Jennifer-di4nl Рік тому

    Im trying to date a guy fron Seattle and i keep hitting this emotional brick wall with him. He thinks its normal but i think its bizarre.

  • @bernadetterocha3693
    @bernadetterocha3693 5 років тому +4

    "A good neighbor is someone you don't have to know". This is so true! I am a Seattle native.😂

  • @cornholio777
    @cornholio777 3 роки тому

    Minnesota Nice > Seattle Freeze

  • @abrahamdeweese1017
    @abrahamdeweese1017 5 років тому

    Seattlites have good intuition when it comes to recognizing needy and clingy people. We distance ourselves from these needy and clingy people who turn around and call this the Seattle freeze.

    • @scottandrews577
      @scottandrews577 4 роки тому +4

      Utter bullshit. I'm not clingy or needy just because I'm waiting to be seated in a restaurant or because I'm trying to buy something in a store or get served at a bar. I encountered the Seattle Freeze even in simple situations like these. Seattle people are not cautiously weeding out clingy, needy people, they aren't being "reserved" and they aren't, as many people like to say, "passive aggressive". They are fucking RUDE!! And I'm from the East Coast so I've seen my share of rude but Seattle blew my hair back.

    • @francesmunzen5897
      @francesmunzen5897 3 роки тому +1

      For a Seattle native wanting social interaction is "clingy and needy" 😂

  • @bodeankit
    @bodeankit 3 роки тому +1

    The freeze is real I am native here I'm irritated by all the people that transplant here

  • @chiefbogo3282
    @chiefbogo3282 6 років тому +2

    I’m just shy (no, I am not racist/snobby/depressed)

    • @francesmunzen5897
      @francesmunzen5897 3 роки тому +2

      Well that's depressing for a transplant, if people don't invite you to join their parties you feel rejected and are left alone with no friends and nothing to do

  • @bodeankit
    @bodeankit 6 років тому +1

    As the native Seattle seeing all these people come here because we produce answers with jobs and prosperity I am ready to leave Seattle because these people have ruined the essence of the city

    • @Kamandi1971
      @Kamandi1971 5 років тому

      thank you well said been in seattle since 1977

  • @PhaseSkater
    @PhaseSkater 6 років тому +4

    really dude. pulling the race card...?

    • @PhaseSkater
      @PhaseSkater 6 років тому +1

      Shae Robinson obviously racism exists everywhere on earth among all races. Humans are stupid in general. But many many white people are saying the freeze is real, and he claims it’s because he’s black. That claim would make more sense if every white person was like “ yeah everyone comes up to me and says hey and is sooo nice” and he was like “ wait what? No one ever comes to me but they go to all the white people? Maybe it’s because I’m black”. That would make his argument way more convincing.

    • @asideofaioli4630
      @asideofaioli4630 6 років тому +9

      He said he isn't sure if it's awkwardness OR his race. Meaning, he also wondered if it was just due to the "freeze" culture, and not his race. My question: If people feel a certain way, whether it's actual reality or just their perspective, should they refrain from expressing it in order to avoid annoying you? Do words and feelings exist only to convenience you? Not everyone who brings up race, or gender, or sexual harassment (hot topics) are doing it for ulterior motives or sympathy. For many, it's a legit feeling or concern or experience people have or have had in the past.
      You could have asked "why" he felt that way, rather dismissing him entirely because the topic 'gets on your nerves'. Then a discussion could have ensued, where you could voice your take. It's great to have an exchange of varying perspectives where minds are broadened and new things learned.
      ...Or you could continue with your approach that allows no growth if you believe that you already know and understand every single thing on this planet.
      From my experience, wise and deeply intelligent people realize they have much to learn. While, egotistical and self-righteous people don't, and probably think it's everyone else that can learn from them.

    • @bigwrench6102
      @bigwrench6102 6 років тому +6

      PhaseSkater bro, he didn’t pull the race card he simply said. He doesn’t know if people are awkward (the freeze) or if it’s because he’s black.. Seattle’s a mostly white city and when you move there from somewhere else and don’t know about the freeze it makes since why he would question if it’s about race... if YOU moved to Atlanta which is a mostly black city and people didn’t talk to you and gave you weird stares and didn’t say thank you when you open the door, you would question if it’s just an Atlanta thing and apart of the culture of the city or if it’s because you’re white... dude don’t be so defensive and so quick to speak on others point of view.

    • @jacobbaker4545
      @jacobbaker4545 5 років тому +2

      Oh please its not the race card. Im frim dallas and i think seattle is more racist than texas. People have different experiences due to their ethnicity playing a huge factor. Just be happy you don't have to deal with those issues

    • @abysswatcher4907
      @abysswatcher4907 2 роки тому

      @@asideofaioli4630 Your words are not assertive, yet I felt it's 100 times more powerful than your opponents' while reading your comment. I guess that's the beauty of speech.
      Glad to see a wonderful human defending a total stranger on the warm side of UA-cam :)

  • @daz8473
    @daz8473 6 років тому +4

    The Seattle freeze is a normal reaction to mass immigration of different people bringing their own issues into the city .
    We aren't racist, we have plenty of diversity, but diversity is a choice , unlike multiculturalism which is a forced application.
    Here's a little hint when you're moving some place new:
    Adapt to the culture that is already there and you won't have any problems.

    • @icecreamcowboyz9466
      @icecreamcowboyz9466 5 років тому +6

      Naw I'm from here I didn't immigrate to shit, it was froze befor I was born. The culture here is depression, jealousy and snobbery.

    • @francesmunzen5897
      @francesmunzen5897 3 роки тому

      Seattle freeze was very real well before mass immigration