The fact that Russia is openly stating it was a Ukrainian drone has me believing this was in fact general Russian incompetence and lack of maintenance/safety measures.
Putin makes small gains in Kharkiv, but in the bigger picture Putin is losing his war on every possible level there is to be losing it - No matter what Putin does he will not prevail. 💙💛
Note at 0:11 and onwards that the gantry supporting the overhead electrification catenary being supported by a telescopic crane. The power lines can be seen sagging around 0:37. The overhead electrical power for this section of the track will have to be switched off and repairs made to that as well. This has the capacity to spread disruption much further than just the site of the derailment.
It's one thing to knock out a rail line, which can be repaired within hours. It's another to have a train derail, leaving a huge pile of metal to be removed.
Plus now line has massive delays on it, so goods stop going through. Now just have to wait to see train schedules, and hit a second one on a switch before or after, where they now route onto the single line, and paralyse the entire area completely.
Even if the train's cargo had no military value, taking a significant rail line out of service for a few days and tying up personnel with clearing it instead of tasks more useful to Russia's military and economy is pretty big. Ukraine also demonstrated both capability and knowledge Russia would wish Ukraine did not have, i.e. a threat.
@@russell7489 A fully loaded 4-axle freight car is not more than 100 t, more like 90+ tonnes (23.5 t axle load). An empty car is 22 to 30 t with bogies stoll attached. So lifting one end of an emptied car is possible even with that road-going crane.
Or just messed up because of -vodka- poor state of the tracks / rolling stock (Uralvagonzavod-made bogie frames are infamous for develoing fatigue cracks).
I'm not accusing Russia of letting their country decay and get trashy over the years. But if you had shown this scene without context or explanation that it was a literal train wreck caused by an attack, I wouldn't have suspected anything out of the ordinary.
Wether this train derailment was actually a drone attack or a negligence-related 'accident' I think what's said is true: "War returns to where it started." (Anna from Ukraine) God Bles You Saneth! Heroes come in all sizes, shapes and forms. You and Jack ARE DOING AMAZING WORK!! Heroyam Slava!
A song by Boris Grebenstchikov (ironically "This train is on fire") is: We have been fighting for 70 years now, We had been taught that life is a battle. Acording to the latest intelligence, We had been fighting ourselves. (c) Борис Гребенщиков -- "Этот поезд в огне" They had that war going on even before they invaded Ukraine.
There is one houge error with this attack: It was conducted at a settlement. For maximum effectiveness, you have to do this in an area were the location is hard to get to. A forrest with no roads near to it, a swamp, or a long bridge. This makes it much more difficult to clear the area and, in the case of a bridge, there is also the chance that the derailed train will damage it or make it temporarily unusable.
On the other hand, blowing it up at a station increases the chance of derailment because there are turnouts which may catch debris and kick the train out of its course.
Yes, I know, there'll be proper reasons for them doing what they're doing. But it's been an easy thing to take the piss out of, fits into stereotypes and whatnot. So can we please go back to the story of lazy, incompetent, probably drunk russian personnel and ignore facts for a bit. Thank you
These have very high workloads and receive very low pay. Many quit and are replaced by immigrants from Central Asia who would agree for even lower pay but care even less for what they do.
The way the derailed cars are dispersed, it seems the train must have been travelling at a considerable speed when the accident happened -- so running through the station, not just a local. It's amazing what a careless cigarette can do
As much as I want to believe, I find it hard to imagine a little drone blowing a full-size locomotive off the tracks, let alone even damaging the tracks. Either way, it's a win for Ukraine and I'm not complaining!
Ukraine has several large 1 way drones. They've even been turning small civilian planes into drones with the ability to travel 1000+ km with a decent payload (I've seen reports from 50kg up to 200kg)
@@trog7986 I am aware of that but those drones are used for long distance and high value targets like oil refineries, not a train with some random supplies.
Listening to russians it sounds like they're singing karaoke - the chorus from Da Da Da by Trio, but with a lot of blyats where they can't remember the other lyrics.
If you follow the train line along the short section north east in Samofalovka you'll arrive at a series of large buildings, well spaced, surrounded by mounds of earth. Seems like a very substantial explosives storage facility. They hit this train where the junctions are in the track, maybe they want to stop/slow shipments out of that facility. Edit: Theres a fuel depot there too and where the drone hit is indeed where those trains get back on to the main moscow line. Oh yeah
Was it really a drone strike or is Russia avoiding admitting to acts of sabotage by Russian insurgents? Doing something to the rails to cause a derailment seems much easier than a long range drone strike on a moving train.
@@foowashere I'm not an expert, but I couldn't spot obvious explosive damage in the footage. Not that it covered the whole scene, so that doesn't really prove anything.
i siriusly doubt that is what happened. deuteriation of railway safety is not exclusively american thing. and blaming everything on Ukrain is now favorite russian coruptionists past time
Saneth, never mind us be safe, Southern England doesn’t see too many Muscovite missiles, you take care of your self. You can’t help others if you become the casualty. Best of luck.
Railroads are relatively easy to repair. Even for Russia. This line will be functional in probably 2 weeks tops. The wreckage will probably be still there for awhile though on the side.
Depends on how easy it is to take a detour around it. Might be a long one, depending on how close to the next intersection this is. Looking at how many cars derailed, it will take some time & did quite some damage
Clearly there are lines that are still usable there given the video was taken from what appears to be a passing train. So it's not a complete blockage.
A possible reason why Ukraine might cause this "accident" is that there's a huge ammunition arsenal about 4km to the north of the station, served by a branch line starting in the village. The Ukrainians hit the arsenal on 16 Nov 2023, I think.
Reading between the lines of some of the actions taken by Russia after refineries in Saint Petersburg were hit........... Ukraine is using the Russian cellular networks to stream video allowing them to precisely target things like a train. Prepaid sim cards are readily available at any kiosk. Perhaps Russia is cracking down now, but they never required anything but cash to purchase in the past.
Trying to downplay the current predicament is like turning off the alarm when your house is on fire - Ukraine is on the backfoot and you aren't helping when embracing your fantasy victory. Ukraine will lose eventually with this trickle feeding of weaponry and you over-optimist clowns are not helping Ukraine with your copium - rather the opposite - anyone who believes you gets lulled into a false sense of security. I have tried to reason with your type time and time again and it feels like talking to a wall. Sometimes I wonder who the real ruski-bots are - perhaps some are more sophisticated than I previously thought?
probably would depend on how the train derailed. if it was from line just missing then probably decently big, if it was from bit of debris going under the wheels lifting the train up (which is quite common) pretty big.
not so fast there Bloke, There are a lot of railroad I beam aka Rails and other steel there and its going to Moscow, In Moscow area you have steel melting plant and Omsktransmash Plant that has been back in action and for the last 6 to 8 months they have been using old hulls that are around the plant to train the works and bring the line back up and running, the scrap on that train is most likely going to be used to make new T-80 hulls production and other parts,
As pointed out, logs CAN be used for building fortifications. Fuel wagons CAN be used for supplying fuel to the terrorists. Scrap metal CAN be used for building tanks. Dual use equipment are legal targets. If the Ukrainians did this, it was very considerate of them to take out a freight train and not a passenger train with civilians.
On the one hand, it might be difficult to target a specific moving train. On the other hand, on long stretches of track such as those in Russia, a drone might follow the direction of the tracks until it finds a random train (has to differentiate between freight and passenger).
Are we sure a drone did this. Poor track conditions would have the same effect. They've already separate the locomotive from the train and taken it away. Either Ukraine thought this would be train carrying military hardware, or track conditions have eroded to the point where the train derailed. Something else worth noting, as evidenced by the debris field and number of affected train cars, the train was travelling a good rate of speed. The engineer might have exceeded track conditions. The more I think about it, this was not a drone attack.
You want to destroy the control building which does the track switching. That would take a while to repair. The transformers which power the overhead wires might be good targets.
A train is a moving target, but a predictably moving target. And for a derailing, faster is actually better. Because more followup stuff goes wrong. And as long as you can avoid passenger trains, pretty much any target works. I wonder if that could force ruzzia to stop all trains on a drone alarm.
If Ukraine can hit the trains... that is a huge step up. Russia runs on trains. edit: Wow- looking at the cars- I would guess that the train was moving over 40mph.
There's no need to "track" a train target with a drone, because the train is already on the tracks! You just fly the drone along the SLOW track (it might be able to do this autonomously) in a non-commuting hour of the night when any trains with passengers on would be long-distance jobs on the FAST (this is relative) track until it hits something! NB: locomotive has been removed. Other footage showed damage to rails and a set of points. If the train was crossing the slow track when the drone arrived, it would have hit the middle of the train and that would explain why no wrecked locomotive still at the scene and why the track damage was all near the points.
How many Russian does it take to clear railway of an over-turned train? I don't know, but we are at least up to 30 and they were all still just standing around. Maybe the Russians have to hit a critical mass before things happen. That's the way their army seems to work?
Two things appear obvious to me. There is no locomotive. So this might have already been removed. This is a very small number of railcars. What occurs to me is, this was not a "train", but a 'cut' of cars standing still on a track that got hit, if it actually was a drone. To me I wonder if this may have been a "T.O.O." target of opportunity, perhaps due to running out of battery/fuel or weather. The railcars were in a junction so while of no real military value disrupted rail traffic including military.
Creo que atacar nudos ferroviarios como este que permite el transporte de material militares y tropas, en la Zona, aunque en este caso sea un tren no puramente militar, usando Un Drone es un buen objetivo. Por un lado entorpecen el uso de la línea Ferroviaria y por otro es un buen ejercicio para poder valorar y sacar información para futuros ataques más efectivos. 🇪🇸🙂🇺🇦 💪💥 ✌️🎗️
That looks disruptive. Also that crane isn't big enough and is stood on the edge of the cutting crest - it's about to just add itself to the pile. Why are they always like this?
Plus lots of portapack power units to orient the cars so you can get them onto the rails again, along with a crew to remove overhead lines for the big crane. Most rerails are done without the big crane, just using ground based jacks to move cars upright, and then back on the rails.
🧨🧨🧨🧨 es posible que la finalidad es dejar cortada esa línea de suministro para el frente ruso, durante un tiempo, bloqueándola con la reparaciones materiales y obras ! . aunque el material cargado no sea militar, produce un retraso en los suministros militares, porque los rusos cargan trenes con material militar frequentemente
@@B.D.E. That would also be mining, but what I had in mind was drone(s) dropping mines with magnetic triggers between the rails so they would explode when the train passed overhead.
@@paulflory3532 Those are rather heavy though, need big drone, which can much better be used without heavy magnets and instead have more explosive, and fly into tanker cars carrying fuel, which does a much bigger bang. If you have an advance team with small drone then grenades, like dropped into tank turrets, will do a similar job for a lot less cost, plus you can reuse the drone a few times as well, or drop them onto military targets instead.
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 Magnetic triggers usually react to a CHANGE in the magnetic field. So they would have to be laid in an inactive mode and then switched on. But it seems like a better idea to just attack the locomotive.
Do not blindly believe it was heading to Moscow. What needs to be checked is what is in-between where it was derailed and Moscow. This may be a case of incompetence in maintenance or a general railroading accident as there is no indication of blast damage noted. Either way, disruption of Russian transportation is a good thing.
I wonder if it might have been a target of opportunity more than a planed strike. As in fly one of those monitored aircraft drones along the rail line until you see an oncoming train and take it out.
One thing I notice is that train didn't have a lot of cars so some of them might have been taken away or they could be picking more up in different areas along the Route
I'm kinda curious, are train tracks still not effective targets for drones and such (as in are they still too hard to hit and too durable for available drones to damage)? If it's possible for Ukraine to threaten the entire length of the rails connecting Rostov and the lands north of Crimea, it could give Russia nonstop headaches.
The fact that Russia is openly stating it was a Ukrainian drone has me believing this was in fact general Russian incompetence and lack of maintenance/safety measures.
Haha right.
Probably just some boys playing on the tracks...
With explosives.
this
lol, yeah I didn't think of that until you said it 🤣🤣
Quite possible. Now I come to think about this your conclusion is more likely than a drone.
Putin makes small gains in Kharkiv, but in the bigger picture Putin is losing his war on every possible level there is to be losing it - No matter what Putin does he will not prevail. 💙💛
The small gains as they turned out to be the area in front of the actual defensive fortifications.
you literally have been saying this from day 1
@@speen9430 right because nations like Germany didn't lose in a single day it took years and hundreds of thousands of losses.
Gazprom is in deep doo doo.
Do the Russian citizens know that Putin is sending their country back 100years???
Note at 0:11 and onwards that the gantry supporting the overhead electrification catenary being supported by a telescopic crane. The power lines can be seen sagging around 0:37. The overhead electrical power for this section of the track will have to be switched off and repairs made to that as well. This has the capacity to spread disruption much further than just the site of the derailment.
Drones derailing trains is a useful tool to temporarily block raiway lines carrying military trains
It's one thing to knock out a rail line, which can be repaired within hours. It's another to have a train derail, leaving a huge pile of metal to be removed.
Plus now line has massive delays on it, so goods stop going through. Now just have to wait to see train schedules, and hit a second one on a switch before or after, where they now route onto the single line, and paralyse the entire area completely.
Not even depending how big the break is, it can be done within an hour of even under 30
@@davisdelp8131 Hence "within hours." Even one minute is within that time frame.
@@MrSlanderer oh ok
Even if the train's cargo had no military value, taking a significant rail line out of service for a few days and tying up personnel with clearing it instead of tasks more useful to Russia's military and economy is pretty big. Ukraine also demonstrated both capability and knowledge Russia would wish Ukraine did not have, i.e. a threat.
They never fail to impress. Slava Ukraini!!
Heroyam Slava !!
I just love the hundreds of workers, standing with their hands in their pockets going "blyat..."
without heavy equipment that's what you do around 100 ton wrecks. That little crane they have could barely lift a set of wheels
In an authoritarian system every action must be directed by the boss. Good thing that P. is such a capable organizer! (NOT)
@@russell7489 A fully loaded 4-axle freight car is not more than 100 t, more like 90+ tonnes (23.5 t axle load).
An empty car is 22 to 30 t with bogies stoll attached.
So lifting one end of an emptied car is possible even with that road-going crane.
The tracks were probably danaged
In a war of attrition, which is actually Russia's *>only
Train was also carrying fuel, it's a strategic asset, watch the video
Thank you, Suchomimus, for this very beautiful train video. I think it looks perfect.
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Russians probably lost another bomb from their plane and blaming Ukraine immediately.
Or just messed up because of -vodka- poor state of the tracks / rolling stock (Uralvagonzavod-made bogie frames are infamous for develoing fatigue cracks).
I'm not accusing Russia of letting their country decay and get trashy over the years. But if you had shown this scene without context or explanation that it was a literal train wreck caused by an attack, I wouldn't have suspected anything out of the ordinary.
Also impressive is the number of "workers" working very hard!
“They pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work.”
Remind me of city workers one guy working while 20 or standing around
They work as much as they are paid, what do you mean?
Maybe they're Union "you saying they're not working?!"
They cant lean on shovels; the army is using all of those.
Wether this train derailment was actually a drone attack or a negligence-related 'accident' I think what's said is true: "War returns to where it started." (Anna from Ukraine)
God Bles You Saneth! Heroes come in all sizes, shapes and forms. You and Jack ARE DOING AMAZING WORK!! Heroyam Slava!
💙 💛🦝💙💛🦝💙💛🦝💙💛🦝💙💛
слава Україні! Героям слава!
A song by Boris Grebenstchikov (ironically "This train is on fire") is:
We have been fighting for 70 years now,
We had been taught that life is a battle.
Acording to the latest intelligence,
We had been fighting ourselves.
(c) Борис Гребенщиков -- "Этот поезд в огне"
They had that war going on even before they invaded Ukraine.
Thanks Such.
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There is one houge error with this attack: It was conducted at a settlement. For maximum effectiveness, you have to do this in an area were the location is hard to get to.
A forrest with no roads near to it, a swamp, or a long bridge.
This makes it much more difficult to clear the area and, in the case of a bridge, there is also the chance that the derailed train will damage it or make it temporarily unusable.
On the other hand, blowing it up at a station increases the chance of derailment because there are turnouts which may catch debris and kick the train out of its course.
Seen this yesterday but straight up outta respect , I'm here too . Keep up your great work .
cheers--yeah didnt have time to do it tomorrow. But I thought it worth looking at anyway
I like how none of the workers are actually doing anything but standing around with their hands in the pockets haha
Union?
@@govinda102000Russian tradition!😊
Waiting for the train to pass, union regs say no working with a train passing as there is danger.
It is funny, but they might be waiting for some special equipment to arrive, like a crane or something else.
Yes, I know, there'll be proper reasons for them doing what they're doing. But it's been an easy thing to take the piss out of, fits into stereotypes and whatnot. So can we please go back to the story of lazy, incompetent, probably drunk russian personnel and ignore facts for a bit. Thank you
At least those Russian train workers won't be going to the Russian front in Ukraine. they will be busy for a while.
Yeah, they look real busy!
Not yet....
They're wearing the new camo though
These have very high workloads and receive very low pay.
Many quit and are replaced by immigrants from Central Asia who would agree for even lower pay but care even less for what they do.
As the Tesco advert says "Every Little Helps." 👍
For those not in the know, Tesco is a major British supermarket chain.
"Commander Ivan, The Blayat Mobile production will have to wait for a while...."
The logs are used in building front line fortifications
and wooden cope grills
The way the derailed cars are dispersed, it seems the train must have been travelling at a considerable speed when the accident happened -- so running through the station, not just a local. It's amazing what a careless cigarette can do
Even at not so high speed the momentum is huuuge.
Ukraine is getting better with drones almost every time I look again. 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!!! Героям слава!!! 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦
As much as I want to believe, I find it hard to imagine a little drone blowing a full-size locomotive off the tracks, let alone even damaging the tracks.
Either way, it's a win for Ukraine and I'm not complaining!
You can derail a train with a pebble.
Ukraine has several large 1 way drones. They've even been turning small civilian planes into drones with the ability to travel 1000+ km with a decent payload (I've seen reports from 50kg up to 200kg)
@@kuidaorekitchen5850 No you can't. I tried when I was twelve years old.
@@trog7986 I am aware of that but those drones are used for long distance and high value targets like oil refineries, not a train with some random supplies.
Looks like Thomas went on a bender, and the Fat Controller is not pleased!
Thomas says Slava Ukraini!🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
In russia the Controller is bald. ;)
💛🔱💙 Slava Ukraina! Heroyam Slava! ❤️☠️🖤
That's a very sound derailment
Russian commentator; "Blyat, blyat, blyat, blyat, something else, blyat, blyat, blyat!"
Listening to russians it sounds like they're singing karaoke - the chorus from Da Da Da by Trio, but with a lot of blyats where they can't remember the other lyrics.
Lmao, google offers me an option of: "translate to English"
Translate to English: "Naw....actually I'm not gonna translate that..."
@@georgeprout42 that's funny.
Ironically, this is the one video where they didn’t sound like that. Seems the women are capable of triple the vocabulary of their men.
Agreed. That is impressive work.
Slava Ukraine!
Slava Ukraini ❤
Ruzzia has been off the rails for quite a long time now..
Were they ever on them?
@@chettmannley7949rails of white powder yes
Poor Tomas the Tank Engine. What will Ringo think?
If you follow the train line along the short section north east in Samofalovka you'll arrive at a series of large buildings, well spaced, surrounded by mounds of earth. Seems like a very substantial explosives storage facility. They hit this train where the junctions are in the track, maybe they want to stop/slow shipments out of that facility. Edit: Theres a fuel depot there too and where the drone hit is indeed where those trains get back on to the main moscow line. Oh yeah
Thanks. 😊😊😊😊
Goin' off the rails on a crazy traaaain! 🤘
Crazy,but that's how it goes🎶🤘😂
@@juliewebb-jx2jm One person conditioned to rule and control, the media sells it, and you live the role...
It's Vladimir at the throttle of the Cannonball Express.
Volgograd... It used to be called Stalingrad.
Likely UK hit the rails not the train. Any derailment stops all train traffic, military or not. So successful mission.
UK?
@@christianevanherck6023 Obviously Ukraine is meant, "UK" is misleading.
@@peterflohr7827 Yep, should be abbreviated to Ukr
@@peterflohr7827 Nonono, now we have a proof of the fact we all know: Ukraine is an anglosaxon puppet!
;)))))))))))))))))))))
Was it really a drone strike or is Russia avoiding admitting to acts of sabotage by Russian insurgents? Doing something to the rails to cause a derailment seems much easier than a long range drone strike on a moving train.
Yes, it would be far more dangerous for them to admit internal sabotage or similar resistance, so it’s at least plausible.
I think that you're probably correct. There would be little point in attacking a train carrying non-military goods.
@@rjmun580 Logs are certainly military. As is scrap Iron.
@@foowashere I'm not an expert, but I couldn't spot obvious explosive damage in the footage. Not that it covered the whole scene, so that doesn't really prove anything.
Thank you for your report!
Slava Ukraini!
i siriusly doubt that is what happened. deuteriation of railway safety is not exclusively american thing. and blaming everything on Ukrain is now favorite russian coruptionists past time
I think your keyboard is broken.
@@kuidaorekitchen5850 So he merged " deterioration with "deuterium." We all commit typos.
Train derailments occur relatively often, especially in a country that depends on rail traffic.
Saneth, never mind us be safe, Southern England doesn’t see too many Muscovite missiles, you take care of your self. You can’t help others if you become the casualty. Best of luck.
If the rail line is messed up, no military traffic can pass on it until it’s repaired. Correct?
Railroads are relatively easy to repair. Even for Russia. This line will be functional in probably 2 weeks tops. The wreckage will probably be still there for awhile though on the side.
Depends on how easy it is to take a detour around it. Might be a long one, depending on how close to the next intersection this is.
Looking at how many cars derailed, it will take some time & did quite some damage
@@lifevest1 True but keep disrupting Russia's logistics with drones and the cumulative effects start adding up.
Clearly there are lines that are still usable there given the video was taken from what appears to be a passing train. So it's not a complete blockage.
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I wonder how calm and technical these women are. Not even one curse word.
Leaves me a hope - someone has to rebuild this ill country when it's over
That looks like a nightmare to clean up.
A possible reason why Ukraine might cause this "accident" is that there's a huge ammunition arsenal about 4km to the north of the station, served by a branch line starting in the village. The Ukrainians hit the arsenal on 16 Nov 2023, I think.
locomotives are scarce items and russia is a railway army
Reading between the lines of some of the actions taken by Russia after refineries in Saint Petersburg were hit...........
Ukraine is using the Russian cellular networks to stream video allowing them to precisely target things like a train. Prepaid sim cards are readily available at any kiosk. Perhaps Russia is cracking down now, but they never required anything but cash to purchase in the past.
Good to have you back, Suchomimus. I was concerned.
SAYING RUSSIA IS WINNING THE WAR IS LIKE A CHICKEN 🐔 DEFENDING KFC CLUCK CLUCK
I 'll be back to this comment later
@@GM-xk1nw
Kyiv in 3 days botski! 😂
Good to see that you're not just triggering Z-trolls on pro-Russian snake pits like Hindustan Times.
Trying to downplay the current predicament is like turning off the alarm when your house is on fire - Ukraine is on the backfoot and you aren't helping when embracing your fantasy victory. Ukraine will lose eventually with this trickle feeding of weaponry and you over-optimist clowns are not helping Ukraine with your copium - rather the opposite - anyone who believes you gets lulled into a false sense of security.
I have tried to reason with your type time and time again and it feels like talking to a wall. Sometimes I wonder who the real ruski-bots are - perhaps some are more sophisticated than I previously thought?
@@GM-xk1nwhow much later? Minutes or years?
how big would that drone have to be? i would sooner expect partisan activity to be honest. regardless, a big mess:)
probably would depend on how the train derailed.
if it was from line just missing then probably decently big,
if it was from bit of debris going under the wheels lifting the train up (which is quite common) pretty big.
@@davidty2006 ye, we miss a lot of details. prolly never know
not so fast there Bloke, There are a lot of railroad I beam aka Rails and other steel there and its going to Moscow,
In Moscow area you have steel melting plant and Omsktransmash Plant that has been back in action and for the last
6 to 8 months they have been using old hulls that are around the plant to train the works and bring the line back up and running,
the scrap on that train is most likely going to be used to make new T-80 hulls production and other parts,
As pointed out, logs CAN be used for building fortifications. Fuel wagons CAN be used for supplying fuel to the terrorists. Scrap metal CAN be used for building tanks. Dual use equipment are legal targets.
If the Ukrainians did this, it was very considerate of them to take out a freight train and not a passenger train with civilians.
Nothing is an illegal target.
On the one hand, it might be difficult to target a specific moving train. On the other hand, on long stretches of track such as those in Russia, a drone might follow the direction of the tracks until it finds a random train (has to differentiate between freight and passenger).
Thanks for this.
This is how all the trains using the landbridge line will look.
The scrap metal car makes a perfect plug now, don't you think?
There are at least 42 people standing around with emergency vests on.
Have you ever tried picking up a railway wagon by hand?
46 I reckon... :)
Are we sure a drone did this. Poor track conditions would have the same effect. They've already separate the locomotive from the train and taken it away. Either Ukraine thought this would be train carrying military hardware, or track conditions have eroded to the point where the train derailed. Something else worth noting, as evidenced by the debris field and number of affected train cars, the train was travelling a good rate of speed. The engineer might have exceeded track conditions. The more I think about it, this was not a drone attack.
Thank you good sir
You want to destroy the control building which does the track switching. That would take a while to repair. The transformers which power the overhead wires might be good targets.
Train cars carrying logs, AKA. carbon armor.... a military target.
Revetments to support the sides of the trenches I believe. Too small for anything else.
I did see a pic of a tank with wooden armor tho!
Bravo Ukraine!
support Jake his fund raiser to get one million
A train is a moving target, but a predictably moving target.
And for a derailing, faster is actually better. Because more followup stuff goes wrong.
And as long as you can avoid passenger trains, pretty much any target works.
I wonder if that could force ruzzia to stop all trains on a drone alarm.
If Ukraine can hit the trains... that is a huge step up. Russia runs on trains.
edit: Wow- looking at the cars- I would guess that the train was moving over 40mph.
There's no need to "track" a train target with a drone, because the train is already on the tracks!
You just fly the drone along the SLOW track (it might be able to do this autonomously) in a non-commuting hour of the night when any trains with passengers on would be long-distance jobs on the FAST (this is relative) track until it hits something!
NB: locomotive has been removed. Other footage showed damage to rails and a set of points. If the train was crossing the slow track when the drone arrived, it would have hit the middle of the train and that would explain why no wrecked locomotive still at the scene and why the track damage was all near the points.
No doubt in my mind that every industrial accident in Russia is to the benefit of Ukraine but... accidents do happen.
The logs could be for "organic carbon-based tank armor" (footnote: Perun).
The train derailed close to a Russian military storage depot so I think it could be military related.
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How many Russian does it take to clear railway of an over-turned train? I don't know, but we are at least up to 30 and they were all still just standing around. Maybe the Russians have to hit a critical mass before things happen. That's the way their army seems to work?
Two things appear obvious to me. There is no locomotive. So this might have already been removed. This is a very small number of railcars. What occurs to me is, this was not a "train", but a 'cut' of cars standing still on a track that got hit, if it actually was a drone. To me I wonder if this may have been a "T.O.O." target of opportunity, perhaps due to running out of battery/fuel or weather. The railcars were in a junction so while of no real military value disrupted rail traffic including military.
I favour just a "derailment" don't think it would be a drone, not an important target. Just Russiia blaming Ukraine for their own failures
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Creo que atacar nudos ferroviarios como este que permite el transporte de material militares y tropas, en la Zona, aunque en este caso sea un tren no puramente militar, usando Un Drone es un buen objetivo.
Por un lado entorpecen el uso de la línea Ferroviaria y por otro es un buen ejercicio para poder valorar y sacar información para futuros ataques más efectivos.
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That looks disruptive. Also that crane isn't big enough and is stood on the edge of the cutting crest - it's about to just add itself to the pile. Why are they always like this?
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Your remark about blyatmobile is actually hilarious 😆
That train don't stop here anymore
You need a heavy lift crane before any repair work can take place
Plus lots of portapack power units to orient the cars so you can get them onto the rails again, along with a crew to remove overhead lines for the big crane. Most rerails are done without the big crane, just using ground based jacks to move cars upright, and then back on the rails.
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Thanks for playing the original audio, now I know how to say "that's properly f***ed" in Russian.
🧨🧨🧨🧨 es posible que la finalidad es dejar cortada esa línea de suministro para el frente ruso, durante un tiempo, bloqueándola con la reparaciones materiales y obras ! . aunque el material cargado no sea militar, produce un retraso en los suministros militares, porque los rusos cargan trenes con material militar frequentemente
apparently there is a huge ammo store just up the track.
incredible video
Is it possible to mine a train? Perhaps multiple mines, one to get the engine and some with delayed fuses to get the cars further back?
If by mine you mean attach explosives to it then yes, of course. That happened to a russian fuel train not so long ago.
@@B.D.E. That would also be mining, but what I had in mind was drone(s) dropping mines with magnetic triggers between the rails so they would explode when the train passed overhead.
@@paulflory3532 Those are rather heavy though, need big drone, which can much better be used without heavy magnets and instead have more explosive, and fly into tanker cars carrying fuel, which does a much bigger bang. If you have an advance team with small drone then grenades, like dropped into tank turrets, will do a similar job for a lot less cost, plus you can reuse the drone a few times as well, or drop them onto military targets instead.
@@paulflory3532 was nodding eagerly until I realized magnetic mines might react to the steel of the tracks.
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 Magnetic triggers usually react to a CHANGE in the magnetic field. So they would have to be laid in an inactive mode and then switched on. But it seems like a better idea to just attack the locomotive.
Everything in Russia is militarily related.
Do not blindly believe it was heading to Moscow. What needs to be checked is what is in-between where it was derailed and Moscow. This may be a case of incompetence in maintenance or a general railroading accident as there is no indication of blast damage noted. Either way, disruption of Russian transportation is a good thing.
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I wonder if it might have been a target of opportunity more than a planed strike. As in fly one of those monitored aircraft drones along the rail line until you see an oncoming train and take it out.
Target of opportunity.
Hitting a train with a drone wouldn't be hard at all if you knew what train you wanted to hit and the train schedule where you want to hit it.
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One thing I notice is that train didn't have a lot of cars so some of them might have been taken away or they could be picking more up in different areas along the Route
I'm kinda curious, are train tracks still not effective targets for drones and such (as in are they still too hard to hit and too durable for available drones to damage)? If it's possible for Ukraine to threaten the entire length of the rails connecting Rostov and the lands north of Crimea, it could give Russia nonstop headaches.