Yishan is always gonna be gren maju guy but Charlie is prob second in that category. Yishan at least known for competitive Maju before Desires got got nerfed
it's really nice of charlie to do all these collabs with comparitively "small fish" youtubers because he likes ygo I mean the guys a juggernaut on youtube and the ygo community is like some gremlin in comparison
Hi everyone I play competitive yugioh and watch Charlie I can shed some light. Yugioh nowadays is complete sh-t. overpriced short printed cards, poor card quality, people buying out packs at wal marts, disorganized events, stealing, etc. Banlist which bans all the expensive cards so Konami can print and sell even stronger cards. Yugioh is in a really bad spot. It's capitalism taking over.
"A part of this community" He downloaded Master Duel, played some meme decks and bowed out. I'm not trying to gatekeep a millionaire from a 20 year old children's trading card game but it's more like he has little to no interest in the game outside of his few encounters with it.
@@AdmiralAlfredo it's a typo, dude, Chill. His money has nothing to do with his interest in the game. There are plenty of well-off people who play Yu-Gi-Oh. He's been on other Yu-Gi-Tuber's channels playing and talking about the game. He may not be extremely knowable but he's brought some pretty big attention to the hobby that I love. The more people the better.
It's a shame that Charlie isn't one to go to big events outside of driving distance, the last YCS in Florida was Miami in 2013, then Atlanta GA in 2017 so he might just be stuck driving a ridiculously long time to go to any. Lord knows I made the 18 hour drive from Florida to Hartford!
I think most people would agree with farfa's statement that the modern game is too far gone to be able to fix it. You're either getting a 10 min combo or floodgates in the meta and there's not really a fix for it aside from making edison format a thing
Officially implementing different formats is literally the only way to salvage what is good left of yugioh, that or do card rotation like any other tcg
@@sendhelp4376 OR, OR, OR, implement the banlist properly based on proper test play and stop fucking around with card effects. Tearlament is nuts ffs, and it lasts 3 formats in the ocg while still being supported...
I say that formats like goat, edison, tengu plant, trinity, and hat (and also if you wanted something like modern that's not modern then in some cases toss, though this is only for the hardcore people) are a great way to keep the game interesting. I feel like more people would travel to events to participate in side events if they had these formats supported. It's also a good idea for master duel, though I will say if they do add it to master duel that might make the card economy/craft market a little weird, since some cards I believe from back in those formats are randomly supers and ultras when they probably shouldn't (stuff like pot of greed makes sense to be an ultra, however it's still weird and would be a waste of ur dust to craft a 1 of pot of greed for a single format that can't be used anywhere else).
We need more people running Junior Format, that actually looks really fun and it supports modern cards (so long as the community hasn't banned the card you're wanting to play).
@@Boristien405 No tributes for high level monsters 1 spell activation, 1 trap activation 1 and set spell/trap per turn was the original rules for the first few months of the OCG but hasn't had any official support for a long time. MBT has a series about it and it's pretty fun.
@@Boristien405 MBT has videos on it. It's technically the oldest format of YGO. There's no tribute summons but you can normal summon any level of monster, you can only activate 1 spell from hand per turn, and can only set 1 spell/trap per turn. It has shockingly ended up being an incredibly balanced format even into early Zexal era.
I really don't like the interpretation they play. I would have following changes. -More LP (12,000). -Optional Tributes. -Quick Play Spells. -No Set Limit. -Activation of 1 S/T doesn't count if the card is negated.
One of the big things that would actually get me invested in yugioh is a limited/ sealed pool format like how they did the battle packs like man I would so much rather have a day dedicated to a set with design focused on a limited pool with outward implications instead of constant waves of support for archetypes. MTG does it a lot and that’s what I feel Konami should pick up from WOTC
What has me absolutely not interested in trying out other formats like Goat or Edison is because I actually like Master Rule 5. I do not like the cards that are being released during this Master Rule, but I very much prefer it over the thought of the going-first player having a 6 card opening hand or there only being 1 universal Field Spell being able to be active at once. I like restricted and lower powerlevel card pools, but that stuff is just a dealbreaker to me and I do not want to go back at all. The hatred for modern yugioh neglects the actual good things from modern format, and I seriously do not understand the appeal of Master Rule 1 or 4 or whatever.
Duelist alliance format might be for you then. That’s where the draw rule first started. It’s also very much an in between edison and modern, with grindy play but with the archetypes starting to build themselves
That's the wrong Hidetsugu lol. The one with the crazy chase versions was Hidetsugu, Devouring Chaos, which had 4 different colored versions of the normal soft glow variant that were in increasing rarity depending on which color it was.
If anyone doesn't know what he was talking about at the start of the video but wants to know, it's on Farfa's day 7 vod at about 6:30. If you just want a tl;dr someone chet, judge no catch, but people see, ban anyone who talk about it, situation just handled poorly.
Would be cool if they split their products and tournaments between the proposed formats mentioned. That's what Vanguard does and I would say it allows a variety of not just formats to play but events to enter.
Master Duel is the best place if Konami wants to introduce alternative or older (permanent) format. Because Master Duel can attract a lot of YGO players with different backgrounds like returnees, anime fans, new players, DL players, etc. Most of them never play the older format, maybe like when the H.A.T or Nekroz META. And they cannot really catch up with the "modern" YGO today because the phase is too fast for "new players" like them. . Btw, I hate long combo and the designer of the cards (fuc u Konami). It's *multiplayer* game but the interaction maybe only from 1-2 handtrap in first move and then the 2nd turn player can sleep because the combo is too long. Everyone who works in Konami, please learn to make some friends and play with them.
I think the reason Konami is hesitant to make it an esport is because unlike other games you kind of have to build your deck and pay for it. Meanwhile the barrier of entry for a game like Apex or valorant it's just downloading the game itself. So in a way no matter what they do a lot of the time the winner boils down to who paid more not just who played better or built their deck better.
5:16 That is funny though. Set one pass Goat Format. Like, yes, true. However, on low LP, you do have those big swings. Premature or CoH and Snatch for game. BLS for game. Chaos Turbo's whole deal is to amass enough card advantage to swing for game. Then of course, Reasoning Gate. If they don't brick. You get out Crane and maybe Fusilier or Jinzo. DMoC for more shenanigans. Or uh Cyber Stein OTK with Megamorph + Master of Oz. As for "You need to get a bunch of friends to play Goat to play it." Wrong. Just wrong. EDOPro and Duelingbook. Duelingbook is where the Goat Format Discord has tournaments online. There are some issues, but both have an active community of players. I do see Edison on both sometimes, but I don't know much else. But what I do know about both Goat and Edison is that regardless, unfortunately, both do have their share of uninteractive decks. It's the kind of stuff players may hate about modern. Not being able to play the game because your opponent said "no". The OTK decks might have consistency issues, but they are there regardless.
Everyone talking about GOAT and Edison meanwhile I just want a Duelist Alliance format to be supported. Has the modern YGO feel without completely disregarding the original game.
I am weirdly nostalgiac for Duelist Alliance format. There were some problems to deal with (Djinn Lock, Towers, etc.) but almost all of them have fairly reliable outs, and Spells/Traps were very valuable.
@@jacobmonks3722 I view Duelist Alliance format as the most balanced format(s) in the game's history. There were a variety of solid meta choices but there were also many viable rogue decks that could easily steal games from the bigger contenders in the format. There was also representation for every summoning mechanic multiple times over. Even OG monarchs did pretty well since they had easy outs to stuff like Winda and Djinn lock in soul exchange and caius/raiza.
I just wish Konami would support alternate formats more. Whatever happened to those other formats they announced awhile back? Where is real Speed Duel tournament support? Why don't we have Rush Duel in the West yet? So many things that could be done and nothing ever happens...
6:45 it is madness that the TCG still doesent provide common variants for the sake of availibility, When the OCG ( & Mtg) does exactly that. There are rare foil chase cards but also common variants of them so folks can play em' As they mentioned ,you must buy overpriced singles for many core playmakers & that blows
I thought of many "fixes" for the game but all of them would only be temporary because simply put: powercreep will sooner or later nullify that fix Take for example a common but kinda dumb fix that people suggest: limiting special summons per turn Assuming you also nerf control and floodgate decks and achieve a slower but healthy format, eventually what will happen is that Konami will start printing new cards that work around that new rule, and eventually the game will go back to being too fast/too strong Also this idea specifically would require heavily nerfing Floos
@@xolotltolox7626 Yup but unfortunately I see it a lot more than I should, like it should take a person about 10 seconds to instantly see what's wrong with that idea
@@totalwartimelapses6359 The only ways I see the game being fixed are if konami uses the banlist as a great reset and the design team correcting their ways of card design. Although both are, borrowing the words of british ppl, brave ideas
You don't have to fix the game you just need to lay down the law with the design team. No more floodgates or lingering effects. Special summoning if fine as long as the end board is just 2-3 negates if unchecked and 1-2 negates if you handtrap. Yugioh is at its best when you can use your engine cards to break a board. Nobody likes having to rely on DRNM or Droplet. Konami also needs to print some seriously powerful trap cards that do not floodgate the opponent.
For me, there's currently 4 massive problems in MD (don't know about other versions of the game since I only play MD): 1. Floodgates. Pretty much just mirroring what everyone else says, but they're just not fun to play against. I mean sure, the one time the opponent flips Vanity's Emptiness when you play floo it's pretty funny, but the rest of the time it's just not fun. 2. Negates. Not that they exist mind you, but that there's way too many of them and that they're usually too adaptable. Maybe I'm alone in this, but I personally don't like that the only way to play the game a lot of the time is to burst into 3 different boss monsters that each have quick effect negates, play droplet/dark ruler or play a deck that can play through multiple negates and still win. Or play Kaijus I suppose. 3. Generic cards that are too good to be generic. So I personally like the idea of putting something into your deck that makes your combo work (like putting Dangers into a Dark World or Vampire deck etc.), but there's just too many cards nowadays that just make too many decks work too good (if that makes sense lmao.) Like, I don't mind that something makes a rogue deck work really well, but when you can splash it into any deck and make it good or even better than it already was, it kinda ruins it (at least for me). 4. First turn length. This is pretty much what Charlie said as well, but sitting around waiting several minutes to even play the game is just not a fun experience. Obviously sometimes the opponent bricks and first turn only takes 10 seconds, but imo that's not really fun either. That being said tho, I absolutely also love doing combos in this game, so I don't want combos to completely disappear, but a good balance between comboing and turns also having a reasonable length would be preferable. Bonus: This one is really only me hating the meta, but I find it so boring that you see the same 4-5 decks in ranked all the time, because "this is what's strong and this is what will win the easiest/fastest". And you can't exactly blame the players for playing those kinds of decks, because most people actually want to rise through the ranks. This is exactly why I want older archetypes to get support in a way that actually makes them at least usable.
I agree with you for the most part, the negates at this point are necessary at this point because if you can’t interrupt your opponent’s plays you kind of just lose
I wish they just ban all generic monsters with omni negates. if they want their negates it should be something like Adamancipator dragite, it only negates specific cards (spell/trap) and needs water in grave to activate. the only thing I want to add with dragite is it should be required to synchro summon with rock monsters and an activation cost to negate.
@@zodiactyrano7833 one or two negates are fine but four to five is absurd you should only be able to limit your opponents plays not completely shut them down.
I can agree to some extent with these. Floodgates like skill drain shouldn't exist period I mean at this point monsters are solely what people rely on for everything to where they might as well be super heavy samurais but actually good. But at the same time things like zombie world or things like gozen match or rivalry (except with zombie world that's just annoying) which most decks CAN play around with since their main deck usually can stay within the limitations set by those floodgates. So yeah extremely busted floodgates should be gone absolutely. Negates is easily one of the biggest flaws in modern Yu-Gi-Oh and are the main reason cards like DRNM or Droplet and kaijus are ran but if you don't have any of them in your hand or you're playing D/D/D and your deck is way too full there's not much you can do. Honestly I think there should be a limitation set on those negates. Like say for instance you can only negate the activation of one spell, trap and monster once per turn. Keep in mind I'm saying NEGATE THE ACTIVATION so cards like imperm, veiler, ash can still be used the turn you used an Omni negate. This would prevent boards with 4-5 Omni negates from completely shutting you down however at the same time you'll still have to play through negates but at least you'll have a chance of setting something up Generic cards honestly is soo sad to see especially since I have a Psy frame deck and because of previous metas omega got put to one but at the same time people can just set up insane boards with their archetypes anyways. Some decks do need generic cards to even be playable like fabled so they should stay. As for the extremely long turns yeah I completely agree that's an issue that should be absolved.
After this video I feel like in the next survey we should focus on asking for frequent banlists (I mean, we just had 2 in a month, but that was completely sporadic) and a (Gold) REAL tournament scenario, with streams and such. As Charlie just said, Konami is losing a huge opportunity with Master Duel as a platform to ingress and retain players...
Negates are worse and you know why? 90% of all Floodgates affect the one using them as well. A negate can be activated whenever the one having it available wants to.
@@Kostas_Dikefalaios u r so smart bro. that definitely makes all the difference. it's not like u need to do a 20 turn combo where if u get handtrapped u will end on suboptimal board vs "SET, PASS, FLIP & FUCK YOU" that a floodgate does. I'm not saying multiple negate boards ain't bad, but floodgates r 10x worse.
@@roxas4587 Most floodgate are easy to activate but also easy to get rid off. A skill drain can be destroyed by any backrow removal, going 1 for 1. An omni negate boss monster eats at least 2 cards, for example: 1) trying to destroy it - eat negate - then destroy it with another card or 2) using something like droplet which needs you to discard a card and doesnt even get rid off the body itself. Then there are also types of floodgates. Some floodgates dont even affect the opponent that much and can be played around. What if I dont need to add cards to my hand? Colossus is useless. What if all my monsters are of the same attribute? Gozen Match is useless. And so on. An omni negate on the other hand is always and in every instance useful. Making it yet again more powerful and frustrating. Dont get me wrong, both are, but at least a floodgate is more situational and my opponent doesnt need 20 minutes to set up lol.
Factually incorrect. The way you play around those negates is part of interaction. Therss genuinely alot of skill and counterplay involved in dealing with multiple negate boards and not to mention how you could handtrap and interrupt the combo. NOT THE CASE with flip up gozen match gg, its just braindead no skill, no interaction with handtraps, no different lines, no different boards. And you talked about 20 negate boards but i ask you where? We havent had drytron format with a 50 negate herald for a while. Most end boards is like a negate or 2 plus other interaction. Build your deck appropriately and you wont lose to drytron in master duel lol
@@hivestalker lol, cant you just backrow removal floodgates? Kinda retarded to say it takes skill to play around negations when you have to open the best hand in the game and to not even go neg. Also are you mentioning tcg or masterduel cus from that last tidbit clearly you are mistakenly dumb to say the most negations we have currently in md is 2 negates and other interactions when literally we have adv tenyi that can put up to 4 negates (protected from droplet and drnm btw) and a monster floodgate (not to mention HANDTRAPS) as well as other adv variants that do similar sht and a long standing deck like adamancipators which easily can go 7.
penguinz is one of the logan paul era collectors that i actually thing is good for the community. seems to actually be interested, unlike 90% of the other new era guys that just care about money
I can totally agree to what farfa said, the game's format is too far gone, a new format can help. I know many people do not want rush duels, but personally i think it can really help to fresh things up, i have try it on the switch game and i totally love it.
If you're planning to build a top tier Deck then yeah you're probably gonna run several hundred dollars. If you wanna build your own Deck that might not keep going after 3 Handtraps(or even 1 Handtrap) then you could probably get something for $60-$100. If your locals has bulk boxes you can go through for like 10 cents a card you might find stuff you want for cheap. Usually every Deck I build takes $40 or less for me to finish when I get around to building it.
Konami do financial prizes for their tournaments !? Konami: I’m sorry we don’t do that here but here have this totally white printing of Dark Magician that we won’t re-use like EVER *cough Jerry re-use it next week*
A Rant regarding Modern Yugioh that I keep on hand The game is easily in its worst state in the entirety of its history. Cards are walls of text with no decent structure and some are just illegible due to this. The game is think teleDAD format but worse, it's now player 1 has a board of 3 - 5 negates after you use hand traps, usually you do not have an out a scoop and proceed to game 2. The game has become a lottery of if player x can draw cards from their own micro lottery pool they might stand a chance. Power creep and pedaling new cards have alternatives such as pot cards or lightning storm or droplets has ruined the game. There is no interaction and the audience is incredibly toxic because player x has spent y on deck and needs to win to justify it. Set releases are now utter shit because each set becomes "does it have decent secrets?" The rest of the ultras and some supers and the rest are crap, so buying boxes is ever more a lottery. There is no decent prize support at tournaments either. What is worse any criticism of the game and structure is drowned out by either; a) literal children who have not seen what the game has become an answer as a mob to a Yugituber b) Konami actually blacklisting you c) people calling you toxic whilst being toxic because they are just coping. The game instead of resolving its issues have become a massive cope and Konami releasing formats to essentially trick players into not quitting because what's better than not leaving? The game is also at it's record most expensive whilst making a compotant deck easily can set you £1000 or $1200 and that is not rarity whoring either. What is worse Konami has this outright fetish for "keeping" casual players by releasing new blue eyes and dark magician support. They nostalgia more than pokemon and I thought they were bad. The game is sadly at a point of no return and in the next few years players will wake up and realize the true state of the game. At this point you have to do the following; * Fix the set releases of the game, there is so much bloat as in filler sets with nothing in. Where some must be at a loss, it's just all a series of chasing secret rares because they are the good cards bar a few of course. * Core set releases are a joke, they are a mess and all that happens is every 2-3 sets from now on it will be a two deck format but the sets are bad also full of shit and the rarity system is so unfriendly to everyone. * A soft reset, at this point the game is a collapsing star, there is so much that it cannot sustain itself meaning set design suffers because you have to be careful of everything around. Konami and players will not react well to a soft reset because the "value" of their collection will dwindle. Games like Cardfight had to do so to prevent this from happening. * The community is just as toxic and I don't think can be saved because they don't want change but newer players or seasoned ones do like myself because they see the current model is unsustainable. * Card text - problem solving card text was a joke and if you want a text heavy game actually put effort. At the moment they just staple a bunch of sentences and punctuation together and hope for the best. I don't think it can be saved to be honest, it's a game where you let power creep, creep on itself making a mess.
I have no idea how Yu-gi-oh events have anyone go to them when you; Need to pay out the ass for a deck Watch your opponent cycle through like 20 cards every game (this is worse if they are playing a rouge deck), while praying your 6th card is enough to boardbreak Winning gets you a Happy Meal and a stick of gum
@@molanogan7409 Rub your 2 braincells and think about why playing against a deck full of cards you barely ever see makes the endless card cycling worse
@@maskofthedragon you can't seriously be advocating for more homogeneity in this format. Don't you see the irony in complaining about cost, yet also villainizing rogue players?
So yeah I agree with the goat foa jus because the speed and Pace now is so bad I played paper with my friend We both have bad decks we have a blast Just because we are both slow But fast when we set up so Yeah Definitely goat plaesse
--Why doesn't Konami support the competitive scene? I think.... (conspiracy theory here) might be because, as we might expect, MD is run by Konami Japan. Hence why Maxx C and other degenerate cards are legal. What does this have to do with anything? If you guys check the OCG Banlist and the official Event Page of the OCG, even using Google Translator, you'll see that... OCG is pretty much NOT competitive. Something that differences many competitive games from others is the lack of RNG which, unfortunately, is what ultimately rules the OCG. As MBT said: "before playing a single second of Yugioh both players get to play the Maxx C mini game!". To that add the fact that cards such as: Grass, Auroradon, Smigor (link 3), etc are legal, thus enabling a lot of degenerate FTKs and Locks, and how fast the game has evolved, or devolved for a matter of fact... most of the "Ranking Duel Tournaments" are, effectively, decided by whoever resolves Maxx C and goes first more often... or, in other words, just plain luck. To end that... just look at the JCS Oosaka webpage by using google translate. First you apply for a LOTTERY to get in.. then its SINGLE ELIMINATION... you lose 2 games and, off you go to your home. And as a cherry on top... the Tearlaments Playmat is... you guessed it! ANOTHER LOTTERY! I think Konami is so into his pachinko machines they see everything as a pachinko these days.
I think knowing a bit more about game competition and history of it in Japann could help here. They have much stricter laws on prizing and even in other genres like fighting games have a lot of single elim or single round stuff. It's def meant to be competitive
@@KeshavKrishnan I think it might have to do with the whole "legal aspect" more than the whole "single elimination". Many sports, competitions, etc are ruled by the entire single elimination thingy... but in Yugioh we have almost all the time played Match. The TCG is a huge contrast... Now... the legal aspect... I remember the first League of Legends tournament didn't offer cash as its big prize in Japan, or something along those lines. I think the whole "esport" scene is not tthat well supported... but also there are several colleges in Japan that DO support the entire esport, streamer, influencer aspect. So much so that some of them do allow you to major in "esports". You can google that... so if that is a thing then why Yugioh is so casual in Japan...???? is a good question
For me the worst part about the game is the sitting 10 minutes part, when I'm at locals that isn't really a problem for me because i'm actually playing against someone phisycally with relatively higher stakes. But when playing online I couldn't be fucked to wait that long that's why I dont play master duel, but if there was a rule that said something along the lines of "5 special summons max per turn", that would be pretty interesting. It would increase the skill gap considerably and lower the time spent watching your opponent.
Also, I cant imagine playing online and having to sit through the empty void. IRL, theres the interactions of "hey what does X read?" Or at least the stimulus of the opponent staring at their hand and going hmmm. And on my turn theres explaining what Im doing. But just having no sound or interaction feels like itd be too much for me, and Id get bored. Whats the point if no one can see me having a realization of "I can get UA Dreadnought Dunker to beat over Dragoon! For lethal!!"
@@carpedm9846 exactly that lol, that is the main reason I think why master duel waas destined to fail, no one, specially new players want to go through that
I wonder why people in Diamond can face people who haven’t even gotten gold yet, I feel that this is a problem that needs more addressing, the rewards should have more incentive to play ranked. I’m just talking but I feel like it shouldn’t be that case.
Are you talking about casual mode? Because in festivals and ranked that's not how it works. Diamond players only go against diamond, sometimes if nobody is online plat 1
I just started playing less than a month ago (duel links got me back into yugioh). What a fun month in rookie and bronze rank seeing eldlich/halq-don/swordsoul against my starter deck + few cards I pulled.
@@dhanyl2725 No even before that change, different tiers never ran into each other Before the change, Diamonds would play with Diamonds regardless of rank, Plats with Plats and Gold with Gold etc. What OP is talking about simply never happened or existed in MD
I know lots of people don’t agree with this, but I think Yugioh has just become so stale that they should take the Cardfight Vanguard route. They should cutoff the format here, turn what we have now into an eternal format where every card can be played, and then begin a new format. When a new format is started in vanguard they normally bring in a new mechanic too so maybe they could do something like that to kickstart everything.
@@quangchau3907 Fixing the current format and "running from the problems" are different things. Rush & Speed duel are different with Advanced format. People want to fix and enjoy the Advanced.
Floodgates do suck but honestly I think having a number of them are necessary. Sure stall decks like eldlich abuse the héll out of them but they can keep combo decks from breaking the game especially the large hybrid decks nowadays. Nowadays there are no pure decks,every deck is running generic tech. Even marincess run access code for OTK. Dragon link is just one big pile. Branded despia albaz fusion abomination.etc
Floodgates aren’t necessary, they don’t fix anything because even combo decks or just meta-decks in general also use them. The only argument that can be made is that certain rogue decks can play certain floodgates as a blow out but those same rogue decks fall apart against other floodgates. Cards like Dark Ruler No More or forbidden droplet are way better solutions to combat combo decks while also keeping the game healthier. There simply is no sane argument pro floodgates other than „I want to see the world burn“
But you see, they don't change the game in specifically a way I personally want (which is the only way to save this dead franchise obviously), therefore they are bad and not worth checking out.
I think Konami needs to re-define the different types of summons. A special summon is from hand, deck or grave. A fusion, sync , xyz, and pendulum should be different and also limited in the number of times you can do it.
Special summoning is the one cool thing about yugioh. The lame part are broken endboards that involve floodgates(traps and monsters) and the beyond broken non-engine cards that read win the game to counter the broken boards. OCG konami is simply intent on printing more stupid bs every set like the Kshatri-la link from Photon Hypernova that is like 3 floodgates in 1.
I like how Charlie is known in the community as the Gren Maju guy
Pretty cool
Poor Yishan. Charlie took his title
Yishan is always gonna be gren maju guy but Charlie is prob second in that category. Yishan at least known for competitive Maju before Desires got got nerfed
There are a lot of creators that are the Gren maju guy. He's just the biggest content creator that plays it.
When he says banish deck, I think Metaphys. Then get hit with a curve ball
it's really nice of charlie to do all these collabs with comparitively "small fish" youtubers because he likes ygo
I mean the guys a juggernaut on youtube and the ygo community is like some gremlin in comparison
Hi everyone I play competitive yugioh and watch Charlie I can shed some light. Yugioh nowadays is complete sh-t. overpriced short printed cards, poor card quality, people buying out packs at wal marts, disorganized events, stealing, etc. Banlist which bans all the expensive cards so Konami can print and sell even stronger cards. Yugioh is in a really bad spot. It's capitalism taking over.
@@chuifongtam4703 bro what the fuck is wrong with you nobody asked you to shed some light :D
@@chuifongtam4703 I mean yea but what does that have to do with Charlie doing collabs with niche youtubers?
@@CallMeZensei it doesn't. my b I went a bit off topic
@@chuifongtam4703 ugh shut up. ygo has been like this since 08 with 04 marking the first huge shift. nothing new.
God damn, it's so fucking awesome to see Charlie enjoy our hobby and be apart of the community
bro it's FUCKIN insane to see a 10 million+ sub UA-camr in the Yu-Gi-Oh community.
talk about spreading the good word 🤘🏼
*a part of
"A part of this community"
He downloaded Master Duel, played some meme decks and bowed out. I'm not trying to gatekeep a millionaire from a 20 year old children's trading card game but it's more like he has little to no interest in the game outside of his few encounters with it.
@@AdmiralAlfredo it's a typo, dude, Chill. His money has nothing to do with his interest in the game. There are plenty of well-off people who play Yu-Gi-Oh. He's been on other Yu-Gi-Tuber's channels playing and talking about the game. He may not be extremely knowable but he's brought some pretty big attention to the hobby that I love. The more people the better.
How can Charlie be so brave and so right
I agree that he's right but...what do you mean brave? Did he say an unpopular opinion?
Because he hasnt got a cossi id yet
He can be brave, he spent a fck ton of money on their cards lol
It's a shame that Charlie isn't one to go to big events outside of driving distance, the last YCS in Florida was Miami in 2013, then Atlanta GA in 2017 so he might just be stuck driving a ridiculously long time to go to any. Lord knows I made the 18 hour drive from Florida to Hartford!
Damn, that's commitment. 2 hr drive or flight max for me.
Lmao, Charlie got me back into Yugioh with his opening streams, so wholesome to see him now in a collab with Farfa.
I think most people would agree with farfa's statement that the modern game is too far gone to be able to fix it. You're either getting a 10 min combo or floodgates in the meta and there's not really a fix for it aside from making edison format a thing
I always thought the game should have more life points at this point cause even an older and weaker decks can put 8000 dmg in one turn.
Mr4 was a form of balancing, but ppl don't want that :(
...and arguably war rock, maybe, idk
Officially implementing different formats is literally the only way to salvage what is good left of yugioh, that or do card rotation like any other tcg
@@sendhelp4376 OR, OR, OR, implement the banlist properly based on proper test play and stop fucking around with card effects. Tearlament is nuts ffs, and it lasts 3 formats in the ocg while still being supported...
I say that formats like goat, edison, tengu plant, trinity, and hat (and also if you wanted something like modern that's not modern then in some cases toss, though this is only for the hardcore people) are a great way to keep the game interesting. I feel like more people would travel to events to participate in side events if they had these formats supported. It's also a good idea for master duel, though I will say if they do add it to master duel that might make the card economy/craft market a little weird, since some cards I believe from back in those formats are randomly supers and ultras when they probably shouldn't (stuff like pot of greed makes sense to be an ultra, however it's still weird and would be a waste of ur dust to craft a 1 of pot of greed for a single format that can't be used anywhere else).
Thank you Farfa for making content with small creators like bigmoist
Charlie will never not be based, great talk
Having full art Yu Gi Oh cards would be awesome.
They did, but only for Rush Duel at the moment
well in yugioh the frame kinda matter
We need more people running Junior Format, that actually looks really fun and it supports modern cards (so long as the community hasn't banned the card you're wanting to play).
What's junior
@@Boristien405 No tributes for high level monsters 1 spell activation, 1 trap activation 1 and set spell/trap per turn was the original rules for the first few months of the OCG but hasn't had any official support for a long time. MBT has a series about it and it's pretty fun.
@@Boristien405 MBT has videos on it. It's technically the oldest format of YGO. There's no tribute summons but you can normal summon any level of monster, you can only activate 1 spell from hand per turn, and can only set 1 spell/trap per turn. It has shockingly ended up being an incredibly balanced format even into early Zexal era.
I really don't like the interpretation they play. I would have following changes.
-More LP (12,000).
-Optional Tributes.
-Quick Play Spells.
-No Set Limit.
-Activation of 1 S/T doesn't count if the card is negated.
I honestly feel like junior format would really reel in the combo heavy decks
One of the big things that would actually get me invested in yugioh is a limited/ sealed pool format like how they did the battle packs like man I would so much rather have a day dedicated to a set with design focused on a limited pool with outward implications instead of constant waves of support for archetypes.
MTG does it a lot and that’s what I feel Konami should pick up from WOTC
What has me absolutely not interested in trying out other formats like Goat or Edison is because I actually like Master Rule 5.
I do not like the cards that are being released during this Master Rule, but I very much prefer it over the thought of the going-first player having a 6 card opening hand or there only being 1 universal Field Spell being able to be active at once.
I like restricted and lower powerlevel card pools, but that stuff is just a dealbreaker to me and I do not want to go back at all.
The hatred for modern yugioh neglects the actual good things from modern format, and I seriously do not understand the appeal of Master Rule 1 or 4 or whatever.
Duelist alliance format might be for you then. That’s where the draw rule first started. It’s also very much an in between edison and modern, with grindy play but with the archetypes starting to build themselves
THE GREN MAJU IN THE THUMBNAIL'S BACKGROUND LMFAOOOO
That's the wrong Hidetsugu lol. The one with the crazy chase versions was Hidetsugu, Devouring Chaos, which had 4 different colored versions of the normal soft glow variant that were in increasing rarity depending on which color it was.
Edison is less "halfway between Classic and Modern" and more like "maybe 20% the way to modern Yugioh"
If anyone doesn't know what he was talking about at the start of the video but wants to know, it's on Farfa's day 7 vod at about 6:30. If you just want a tl;dr someone chet, judge no catch, but people see, ban anyone who talk about it, situation just handled poorly.
At 7:28 you actually put the wrong Hidetsugu on screen. Charlie is talking about the neon varieties of Hidetsugu, Devouring Chaos
Charlie likes:
-Banishing Cards
-Slower Formats
He should play Mysterune then
4:12 Wow, when it comes to Konami, somehow the words "Yu-gi-oh" and "Pachinko" are never heard together
Would be cool if they split their products and tournaments between the proposed formats mentioned.
That's what Vanguard does and I would say it allows a variety of not just formats to play but events to enter.
Master Duel is the best place if Konami wants to introduce alternative or older (permanent) format. Because Master Duel can attract a lot of YGO players with different backgrounds like returnees, anime fans, new players, DL players, etc. Most of them never play the older format, maybe like when the H.A.T or Nekroz META. And they cannot really catch up with the "modern" YGO today because the phase is too fast for "new players" like them.
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Btw, I hate long combo and the designer of the cards (fuc u Konami). It's *multiplayer* game but the interaction maybe only from 1-2 handtrap in first move and then the 2nd turn player can sleep because the combo is too long. Everyone who works in Konami, please learn to make some friends and play with them.
Your editor was showing the wrong Hidetsugu card. The one Charly was talking about is from Kamigawa Neon Dynasty and as he said had neon ink colors.
Feel like tear and sprite are not difficult to sit through vs. dragon link style decks. Dragon link is cool, but there is a time commitment
I didn’t expect a Yugioh player have a Yt diamond button before lol
If Charlie is into banishment decks, maybe Metaphys or banish dinos would be something fun for him
I wish Charlie still played masterduel on stream.
charlie is GOATED. Farfa, take notes
I feel the private tournaments you can make in master duel are where the games the funnest
I think the reason Konami is hesitant to make it an esport is because unlike other games you kind of have to build your deck and pay for it. Meanwhile the barrier of entry for a game like Apex or valorant it's just downloading the game itself. So in a way no matter what they do a lot of the time the winner boils down to who paid more not just who played better or built their deck better.
What this is bullshit especially in a game wich is really f2p friendly
Magic Arena has tournaments, Hearthstone too...
not really an excuse as every other card game has cash prizing and is an "e-sport"
"The winner boils down to who paid more."
Plenty of YGO players are frustrated that Konami's satisfied with MD being not terrible instead of trying to make it great.
5:16
That is funny though. Set one pass Goat Format. Like, yes, true.
However, on low LP, you do have those big swings. Premature or CoH and Snatch for game. BLS for game. Chaos Turbo's whole deal is to amass enough card advantage to swing for game. Then of course, Reasoning Gate. If they don't brick. You get out Crane and maybe Fusilier or Jinzo. DMoC for more shenanigans. Or uh Cyber Stein OTK with Megamorph + Master of Oz.
As for "You need to get a bunch of friends to play Goat to play it." Wrong. Just wrong. EDOPro and Duelingbook. Duelingbook is where the Goat Format Discord has tournaments online. There are some issues, but both have an active community of players. I do see Edison on both sometimes, but I don't know much else. But what I do know about both Goat and Edison is that regardless, unfortunately, both do have their share of uninteractive decks. It's the kind of stuff players may hate about modern. Not being able to play the game because your opponent said "no". The OTK decks might have consistency issues, but they are there regardless.
Charlie should have come to our Florida Regionals a week ago! Would have been wild to have him
That interview was cool
Everyone talking about GOAT and Edison meanwhile I just want a Duelist Alliance format to be supported. Has the modern YGO feel without completely disregarding the original game.
I am weirdly nostalgiac for Duelist Alliance format. There were some problems to deal with (Djinn Lock, Towers, etc.) but almost all of them have fairly reliable outs, and Spells/Traps were very valuable.
@@jacobmonks3722 I view Duelist Alliance format as the most balanced format(s) in the game's history. There were a variety of solid meta choices but there were also many viable rogue decks that could easily steal games from the bigger contenders in the format. There was also representation for every summoning mechanic multiple times over. Even OG monarchs did pretty well since they had easy outs to stuff like Winda and Djinn lock in soul exchange and caius/raiza.
I just wish Konami would support alternate formats more. Whatever happened to those other formats they announced awhile back? Where is real Speed Duel tournament support? Why don't we have Rush Duel in the West yet? So many things that could be done and nothing ever happens...
The TCG kind of does the chase card/less expensive version with collector’s rares
What charlie suggested from MTG, pkmn and final fantasy TCG both do that
6:45 it is madness that the TCG still doesent provide common variants for the sake of availibility,
When the OCG ( & Mtg) does exactly that. There are rare foil chase cards but also common variants of them so folks can play em'
As they mentioned ,you must buy overpriced singles for many core playmakers & that blows
Man it would be nice for a fan format to pick up steam. MTG has commander and something similar for yugioh would be dope.
A theorised reason for why air neos hasn't been reprinted is because apparently there is an Italian airline of the same name...
I thought of many "fixes" for the game but all of them would only be temporary because simply put: powercreep will sooner or later nullify that fix
Take for example a common but kinda dumb fix that people suggest: limiting special summons per turn
Assuming you also nerf control and floodgate decks and achieve a slower but healthy format, eventually what will happen is that Konami will start printing new cards that work around that new rule, and eventually the game will go back to being too fast/too strong
Also this idea specifically would require heavily nerfing Floos
limiting special summoning is such a stupid suggestion
It's just Nibiru but even worse for the game
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Yup but unfortunately I see it a lot more than I should, like it should take a person about 10 seconds to instantly see what's wrong with that idea
@@totalwartimelapses6359 The only ways I see the game being fixed are if konami uses the banlist as a great reset and the design team correcting their ways of card design. Although both are, borrowing the words of british ppl, brave ideas
@@totalwartimelapses6359 It should also take people 10 seconds to see what's wrong with nibiru, yet I still see it regularly defended
You don't have to fix the game you just need to lay down the law with the design team. No more floodgates or lingering effects.
Special summoning if fine as long as the end board is just 2-3 negates if unchecked and 1-2 negates if you handtrap.
Yugioh is at its best when you can use your engine cards to break a board. Nobody likes having to rely on DRNM or Droplet.
Konami also needs to print some seriously powerful trap cards that do not floodgate the opponent.
For me, there's currently 4 massive problems in MD (don't know about other versions of the game since I only play MD):
1. Floodgates.
Pretty much just mirroring what everyone else says, but they're just not fun to play against. I mean sure, the one time the opponent flips Vanity's Emptiness when you play floo it's pretty funny, but the rest of the time it's just not fun.
2. Negates.
Not that they exist mind you, but that there's way too many of them and that they're usually too adaptable. Maybe I'm alone in this, but I personally don't like that the only way to play the game a lot of the time is to burst into 3 different boss monsters that each have quick effect negates, play droplet/dark ruler or play a deck that can play through multiple negates and still win. Or play Kaijus I suppose.
3. Generic cards that are too good to be generic.
So I personally like the idea of putting something into your deck that makes your combo work (like putting Dangers into a Dark World or Vampire deck etc.), but there's just too many cards nowadays that just make too many decks work too good (if that makes sense lmao.) Like, I don't mind that something makes a rogue deck work really well, but when you can splash it into any deck and make it good or even better than it already was, it kinda ruins it (at least for me).
4. First turn length.
This is pretty much what Charlie said as well, but sitting around waiting several minutes to even play the game is just not a fun experience. Obviously sometimes the opponent bricks and first turn only takes 10 seconds, but imo that's not really fun either. That being said tho, I absolutely also love doing combos in this game, so I don't want combos to completely disappear, but a good balance between comboing and turns also having a reasonable length would be preferable.
Bonus: This one is really only me hating the meta, but I find it so boring that you see the same 4-5 decks in ranked all the time, because "this is what's strong and this is what will win the easiest/fastest". And you can't exactly blame the players for playing those kinds of decks, because most people actually want to rise through the ranks. This is exactly why I want older archetypes to get support in a way that actually makes them at least usable.
I agree with you for the most part, the negates at this point are necessary at this point because if you can’t interrupt your opponent’s plays you kind of just lose
negates are a staple of modern yugioh. But they are fine in a bo3 and master duel needs to start balancing around it being a bo1
I wish they just ban all generic monsters with omni negates. if they want their negates it should be something like Adamancipator dragite, it only negates specific cards (spell/trap) and needs water in grave to activate. the only thing I want to add with dragite is it should be required to synchro summon with rock monsters and an activation cost to negate.
@@zodiactyrano7833 one or two negates are fine but four to five is absurd you should only be able to limit your opponents plays not completely shut them down.
I can agree to some extent with these. Floodgates like skill drain shouldn't exist period I mean at this point monsters are solely what people rely on for everything to where they might as well be super heavy samurais but actually good. But at the same time things like zombie world or things like gozen match or rivalry (except with zombie world that's just annoying) which most decks CAN play around with since their main deck usually can stay within the limitations set by those floodgates. So yeah extremely busted floodgates should be gone absolutely.
Negates is easily one of the biggest flaws in modern Yu-Gi-Oh and are the main reason cards like DRNM or Droplet and kaijus are ran but if you don't have any of them in your hand or you're playing D/D/D and your deck is way too full there's not much you can do. Honestly I think there should be a limitation set on those negates. Like say for instance you can only negate the activation of one spell, trap and monster once per turn. Keep in mind I'm saying NEGATE THE ACTIVATION so cards like imperm, veiler, ash can still be used the turn you used an Omni negate. This would prevent boards with 4-5 Omni negates from completely shutting you down however at the same time you'll still have to play through negates but at least you'll have a chance of setting something up
Generic cards honestly is soo sad to see especially since I have a Psy frame deck and because of previous metas omega got put to one but at the same time people can just set up insane boards with their archetypes anyways. Some decks do need generic cards to even be playable like fabled so they should stay.
As for the extremely long turns yeah I completely agree that's an issue that should be absolved.
Charlie is so brave. I really liked banishing based decks played a long time methaphys =)
WAIT WHAT WAS SENSORED OUT I NEED TO KNOW
If ur lazy: Charlie was talking about the Elijah/Jerome drama
After this video I feel like in the next survey we should focus on asking for frequent banlists (I mean, we just had 2 in a month, but that was completely sporadic) and a (Gold) REAL tournament scenario, with streams and such. As Charlie just said, Konami is losing a huge opportunity with Master Duel as a platform to ingress and retain players...
1:46
What had happened there stream watchers? Not everyone has fitting timezone help a fella out
I feel there isn't much difference between a flood gate and a board of multiple negate.
Negates are worse and you know why? 90% of all Floodgates affect the one using them as well. A negate can be activated whenever the one having it available wants to.
@@Kostas_Dikefalaios u r so smart bro. that definitely makes all the difference. it's not like u need to do a 20 turn combo where if u get handtrapped u will end on suboptimal board vs "SET, PASS, FLIP & FUCK YOU" that a floodgate does.
I'm not saying multiple negate boards ain't bad, but floodgates r 10x worse.
@@roxas4587 Most floodgate are easy to activate but also easy to get rid off. A skill drain can be destroyed by any backrow removal, going 1 for 1. An omni negate boss monster eats at least 2 cards, for example: 1) trying to destroy it - eat negate - then destroy it with another card or 2) using something like droplet which needs you to discard a card and doesnt even get rid off the body itself.
Then there are also types of floodgates. Some floodgates dont even affect the opponent that much and can be played around. What if I dont need to add cards to my hand? Colossus is useless. What if all my monsters are of the same attribute? Gozen Match is useless. And so on. An omni negate on the other hand is always and in every instance useful. Making it yet again more powerful and frustrating. Dont get me wrong, both are, but at least a floodgate is more situational and my opponent doesnt need 20 minutes to set up lol.
Factually incorrect. The way you play around those negates is part of interaction. Therss genuinely alot of skill and counterplay involved in dealing with multiple negate boards and not to mention how you could handtrap and interrupt the combo.
NOT THE CASE with flip up gozen match gg, its just braindead no skill, no interaction with handtraps, no different lines, no different boards.
And you talked about 20 negate boards but i ask you where? We havent had drytron format with a 50 negate herald for a while. Most end boards is like a negate or 2 plus other interaction.
Build your deck appropriately and you wont lose to drytron in master duel lol
@@hivestalker lol, cant you just backrow removal floodgates? Kinda retarded to say it takes skill to play around negations when you have to open the best hand in the game and to not even go neg. Also are you mentioning tcg or masterduel cus from that last tidbit clearly you are mistakenly dumb to say the most negations we have currently in md is 2 negates and other interactions when literally we have adv tenyi that can put up to 4 negates (protected from droplet and drnm btw) and a monster floodgate (not to mention HANDTRAPS) as well as other adv variants that do similar sht and a long standing deck like adamancipators which easily can go 7.
What hell happen in Charlotte?
Number one thing for me is honestly just tcg banlist best of 3 with siding
penguinz is one of the logan paul era collectors that i actually thing is good for the community. seems to actually be interested, unlike 90% of the other new era guys that just care about money
Wait what was the censored part? What's the context?
We don't talk about the Charlotte incident
@@ComaDoccYT Oooh that...
Damn luckily I don't have a cossy ID so konami can't do anything to me for asking this :)))
I love Edison format
I can totally agree to what farfa said, the game's format is too far gone, a new format can help. I know many people do not want rush duels, but personally i think it can really help to fresh things up, i have try it on the switch game and i totally love it.
I also like rush duel, sadly i can only play duel links or master duel until they release a rush duel game for pc/mobile (but i prefer mobile more).
@@quangchau3907 yeah i will love a Mobile game as duel links for rush duel, maybe even collect the cards as the design is so appealing
Charlie’s Ace monster being Gren Maju makes me happy
I think that master duel must have a rotative queue for older formats. Changing every week Goat/Edison/Duelist Allience, etc
If you're planning to build a top tier Deck then yeah you're probably gonna run several hundred dollars. If you wanna build your own Deck that might not keep going after 3 Handtraps(or even 1 Handtrap) then you could probably get something for $60-$100.
If your locals has bulk boxes you can go through for like 10 cents a card you might find stuff you want for cheap.
Usually every Deck I build takes $40 or less for me to finish when I get around to building it.
Konami do financial prizes for their tournaments !?
Konami: I’m sorry we don’t do that here but here have this totally white printing of Dark Magician that we won’t re-use like EVER *cough Jerry re-use it next week*
How old is this? Charlie was on duel night 3 months ago. Way to stay recent.
Can u shout out the small creator u collabed with?
It was Hidetsugu, Devouring Chaos(Neon Red) not Heartless Hidetsugu btw.
Charlie probably got kidnapped and was forced to make this
1:47 WHAT HAPPENED!?! ... oh, they are talking about Mystic Mine on chat, it makes perfect sense. i agree.
Monarchs Erupt is fun
what was censored?
A Rant regarding Modern Yugioh that I keep on hand
The game is easily in its worst state in the entirety of its history. Cards are walls of text with no decent structure and some are just illegible due to this. The game is think teleDAD format but worse, it's now player 1 has a board of 3 - 5 negates after you use hand traps, usually you do not have an out a scoop and proceed to game 2. The game has become a lottery of if player x can draw cards from their own micro lottery pool they might stand a chance.
Power creep and pedaling new cards have alternatives such as pot cards or lightning storm or droplets has ruined the game. There is no interaction and the audience is incredibly toxic because player x has spent y on deck and needs to win to justify it.
Set releases are now utter shit because each set becomes "does it have decent secrets?" The rest of the ultras and some supers and the rest are crap, so buying boxes is ever more a lottery. There is no decent prize support at tournaments either.
What is worse any criticism of the game and structure is drowned out by either;
a) literal children who have not seen what the game has become an answer as a mob to a Yugituber
b) Konami actually blacklisting you
c) people calling you toxic whilst being toxic because they are just coping.
The game instead of resolving its issues have become a massive cope and Konami releasing formats to essentially trick players into not quitting because what's better than not leaving?
The game is also at it's record most expensive whilst making a compotant deck easily can set you £1000 or $1200 and that is not rarity whoring either. What is worse Konami has this outright fetish for "keeping" casual players by releasing new blue eyes and dark magician support. They nostalgia more than pokemon and I thought they were bad.
The game is sadly at a point of no return and in the next few years players will wake up and realize the true state of the game. At this point you have to do the following;
* Fix the set releases of the game, there is so much bloat as in filler sets with nothing in. Where some must be at a loss, it's just all a series of chasing secret rares because they are the good cards bar a few of course.
* Core set releases are a joke, they are a mess and all that happens is every 2-3 sets from now on it will be a two deck format but the sets are bad also full of shit and the rarity system is so unfriendly to everyone.
* A soft reset, at this point the game is a collapsing star, there is so much that it cannot sustain itself meaning set design suffers because you have to be careful of everything around. Konami and players will not react well to a soft reset because the "value" of their collection will dwindle. Games like Cardfight had to do so to prevent this from happening.
* The community is just as toxic and I don't think can be saved because they don't want change but newer players or seasoned ones do like myself because they see the current model is unsustainable.
* Card text - problem solving card text was a joke and if you want a text heavy game actually put effort. At the moment they just staple a bunch of sentences and punctuation together and hope for the best.
I don't think it can be saved to be honest, it's a game where you let power creep, creep on itself making a mess.
loved reading this. so much anger. i just think the art has become terrible. it makes it difficult playing new cards cus they're usually ugly.
I have no idea how Yu-gi-oh events have anyone go to them when you;
Need to pay out the ass for a deck
Watch your opponent cycle through like 20 cards every game (this is worse if they are playing a rouge deck), while praying your 6th card is enough to boardbreak
Winning gets you a Happy Meal and a stick of gum
Why is it "worse" if they're playing a rogue deck
@@molanogan7409
Rub your 2 braincells and think about why playing against a deck full of cards you barely ever see makes the endless card cycling worse
@@maskofthedragon you can't seriously be advocating for more homogeneity in this format. Don't you see the irony in complaining about cost, yet also villainizing rogue players?
@@gbfgbfgbfgbfaccount1766
I'm listing problems in Nu-gi-oh, the heckin' wholesome 100 rogue decks do infact make one of those problems worse
So yeah I agree with the goat foa jus because the speed and Pace now is so bad I played paper with my friend We both have bad decks we have a blast Just because we are both slow But fast when we set up so Yeah Definitely goat plaesse
--Why doesn't Konami support the competitive scene?
I think.... (conspiracy theory here) might be because, as we might expect, MD is run by Konami Japan. Hence why Maxx C and other degenerate cards are legal. What does this have to do with anything? If you guys check the OCG Banlist and the official Event Page of the OCG, even using Google Translator, you'll see that... OCG is pretty much NOT competitive. Something that differences many competitive games from others is the lack of RNG which, unfortunately, is what ultimately rules the OCG. As MBT said: "before playing a single second of Yugioh both players get to play the Maxx C mini game!". To that add the fact that cards such as: Grass, Auroradon, Smigor (link 3), etc are legal, thus enabling a lot of degenerate FTKs and Locks, and how fast the game has evolved, or devolved for a matter of fact... most of the "Ranking Duel Tournaments" are, effectively, decided by whoever resolves Maxx C and goes first more often... or, in other words, just plain luck.
To end that... just look at the JCS Oosaka webpage by using google translate. First you apply for a LOTTERY to get in.. then its SINGLE ELIMINATION... you lose 2 games and, off you go to your home. And as a cherry on top... the Tearlaments Playmat is... you guessed it! ANOTHER LOTTERY! I think Konami is so into his pachinko machines they see everything as a pachinko these days.
I think knowing a bit more about game competition and history of it in Japann could help here. They have much stricter laws on prizing and even in other genres like fighting games have a lot of single elim or single round stuff. It's def meant to be competitive
Its Simorg, or as MBT would say: SMIGGER
@@KeshavKrishnan I think it might have to do with the whole "legal aspect" more than the whole "single elimination". Many sports, competitions, etc are ruled by the entire single elimination thingy... but in Yugioh we have almost all the time played Match. The TCG is a huge contrast...
Now... the legal aspect... I remember the first League of Legends tournament didn't offer cash as its big prize in Japan, or something along those lines. I think the whole "esport" scene is not tthat well supported... but also there are several colleges in Japan that DO support the entire esport, streamer, influencer aspect. So much so that some of them do allow you to major in "esports". You can google that... so if that is a thing then why Yugioh is so casual in Japan...???? is a good question
I think GOAT and modern have higher skill gaps than Edison honestly. Edison is very linear.
Moist prefer classic ygo but hates floodgate which makes game like classic ygo
For me the worst part about the game is the sitting 10 minutes part, when I'm at locals that isn't really a problem for me because i'm actually playing against someone phisycally with relatively higher stakes. But when playing online I couldn't be fucked to wait that long that's why I dont play master duel, but if there was a rule that said something along the lines of "5 special summons max per turn", that would be pretty interesting. It would increase the skill gap considerably and lower the time spent watching your opponent.
Also, I cant imagine playing online and having to sit through the empty void.
IRL, theres the interactions of "hey what does X read?" Or at least the stimulus of the opponent staring at their hand and going hmmm. And on my turn theres explaining what Im doing.
But just having no sound or interaction feels like itd be too much for me, and Id get bored.
Whats the point if no one can see me having a realization of "I can get UA Dreadnought Dunker to beat over Dragoon! For lethal!!"
@@carpedm9846 exactly that lol, that is the main reason I think why master duel waas destined to fail, no one, specially new players want to go through that
I wonder why people in Diamond can face people who haven’t even gotten gold yet, I feel that this is a problem that needs more addressing, the rewards should have more incentive to play ranked. I’m just talking but I feel like it shouldn’t be that case.
Are you talking about casual mode? Because in festivals and ranked that's not how it works. Diamond players only go against diamond, sometimes if nobody is online plat 1
I just started playing less than a month ago (duel links got me back into yugioh). What a fun month in rookie and bronze rank seeing eldlich/halq-don/swordsoul against my starter deck + few cards I pulled.
It has been fixed in ranked and events so that doesn't happen tho, now gold v will only meet gold v, plat i only meets plat i, etc.
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No even before that change, different tiers never ran into each other
Before the change, Diamonds would play with Diamonds regardless of rank, Plats with Plats and Gold with Gold etc.
What OP is talking about simply never happened or existed in MD
@@totalwartimelapses6359 Oh I forgor, I thought rookie could meet gold back then...
I know lots of people don’t agree with this, but I think Yugioh has just become so stale that they should take the Cardfight Vanguard route. They should cutoff the format here, turn what we have now into an eternal format where every card can be played, and then begin a new format. When a new format is started in vanguard they normally bring in a new mechanic too so maybe they could do something like that to kickstart everything.
You mean like a hardreset of the cardpool? Banishing every card into OG Yugioh and starting like a 2nd Cardpool?
Didn't they sort of do this with Rush Duel?
We already have 3 format (tcg/ocg, rush duel, speed duel), why wont you play other 2 instead of asking for new format?
It introduced even more issues for vanguard than it solved.
@@quangchau3907 Fixing the current format and "running from the problems" are different things. Rush & Speed duel are different with Advanced format. People want to fix and enjoy the Advanced.
I think duel links got it right with the speed duels, but the character skills need to be nerfed
pend best deck
Floodgates do suck but honestly I think having a number of them are necessary. Sure stall decks like eldlich abuse the héll out of them but they can keep combo decks from breaking the game especially the large hybrid decks nowadays. Nowadays there are no pure decks,every deck is running generic tech. Even marincess run access code for OTK. Dragon link is just one big pile. Branded despia albaz fusion abomination.etc
Floodgates aren’t necessary, they don’t fix anything because even combo decks or just meta-decks in general also use them.
The only argument that can be made is that certain rogue decks can play certain floodgates as a blow out but those same rogue decks fall apart against other floodgates.
Cards like Dark Ruler No More or forbidden droplet are way better solutions to combat combo decks while also keeping the game healthier. There simply is no sane argument pro floodgates other than „I want to see the world burn“
@@drak5860 agreed
Incorrect and please delete this comment.
What a BASSED man
That's cool and all but Shark still best deck
If you want alternative format, just play speed duel or rush duel bro
But you see, they don't change the game in specifically a way I personally want (which is the only way to save this dead franchise obviously), therefore they are bad and not worth checking out.
@@kindlingking oh, so the alternative format idea is just YEP Chatting, NOTED
those two are garbage and barely supported, goat, edison and others should be supported
Except those suck lmao
YEP Joel
This video has Charlie's husky in it 😍
Floodgates > multiple omni negate boards (floodgates give actual use to back row removal cards)
Older formats would be so fire 🔥
my cossy is 5
Joel
Fafnir?
Hugs?
Charlie is a true G
The negation meta also suck
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I think Konami needs to re-define the different types of summons. A special summon is from hand, deck or grave. A fusion, sync , xyz, and pendulum should be different and also limited in the number of times you can do it.
Early gang let's goo
Floodgates don't suck. The answer to them does lol
wrong.
JoelFast
ARG failed. PPG failed. Charlie won't.
Master Rule 6: players may special summon 5 times per turn, surely that's bound to fix the game Clueless
Doesn’t the game just become what the 5 best special summons are?
Floodgates would be truly overwhelming
I wanted to say what the 2 guys above me said but I assumed judging by that "clueless" that you were joking and that you knew this isn't a good idea
Special summoning is the one cool thing about yugioh. The lame part are broken endboards that involve floodgates(traps and monsters) and the beyond broken non-engine cards that read win the game to counter the broken boards.
OCG konami is simply intent on printing more stupid bs every set like the Kshatri-la link from Photon Hypernova that is like 3 floodgates in 1.
laughs in floo
#ToukMillerRobbed
Tcg banlist when?
"Floodgates suck"
So does your infinite negate board
Oh. Oh wow first