+Some Random “Fandom Trash” Artist Truer words have never been uttered. If someone ever asks about the end of this game, that is all that needs to be said.
It sounds to me, like undeadness. A state between life and death, a purgatory, which I suppose was what the room this battle takes place in was like, the bare and featureless remains of a world beaten lifeless, yet still bearing life within it.
I'm back here after playing through the game again recently, and I noticed something that really gave me pause. During the confrontation with The Judge, The Batter says "No! Don't do that!" To the player whenever Judge tells you to give join him. It's the only time (that I can recall at least) that The Batter gives us, the puppeteer, an order. It gave me such chills that I couldn't help but side with The Batter this playthrough.
I guess you could say that the beginning of the Zone 2 timed trial could have him commanding you ("Let's purify these spirits, and fast."), but that might be more of a suggestion than an order, since I don't recall there being an exclamation mark which usually means ordering someone to do something
I interpreted it as begging more than anything, especially on first playthrough. The batter knows that the judge could've given a compelling argument to the player, and that they singlehandedly are capable of making people win fights, it's basically an opportunity for his plan to fall apart at the last moment.
well, if we think about it the player is being manipulated by the batter since the very beginning, and one doesn't realize that until the end, when we have finished our mission of "purification" by eradicating almost any lifeform in the world, or even before, during the conversation with Enoch, when he says that areas can't survive without their guardians, and that instead of liberating them, we are destroying them.
Avatar Beat - You are the puppeteer, you choose an avatar (Batter or Pablo) and then they beat each other till one of them dies... Makes perfect sense.
Honestly, this game is one of those games that I'm glad I didn't watch someone else play, but instead decide to play the whole thing myself. It made the game have a lasting impression on me, and I'll always remember it. It really hit home with the fact that nobody in the game is truly in the right, nor the wrong. And this boss fight was so subtly and beautifully executed. The entire game really hit me in some deep and subconscious places, and I loved it.
Remember: EVERYONE in OFF has sinned, no one is pure, we may not know what the switch does, but it is of great importance, Zacharie knows the endings, and he is friends with both The Batter and Pablo, the real judge is you, the player, Pablo or our mysterious adversary? Who is the real villain? And who is really on a holy quest? If perspectives come into play, what REALLY did happen? The answer we shall never know, because we are not supposed to, we simply exist to serve and guide, we must choose who is the real messiah, the fate of the world depends on your selection, choose wisely...
+TheMasterchiefan What about the cats? Even if you say The Judge sinned for not stopping the Batter earlier, you can't say his brother did anything wrong than trying to eat a bird that turned out to be sentient.
I always loved how the music portraits the futility and the void that exists beyond the fight. The most serious and straight-to-the-point theme I ever heard in a videogame.
Just a theory, but.... Ever thought that perhaps when we first meet the batter, we are really near the end of his journey? He hasn't just started his mission, heck, he's been doing it for a while in other places, but only now in the last stretch of it do you become his puppeteer. This would explain why he doesn't know his way around the areas, why he's very battle savvy... And why, despite that he could solve the puzzles himself, he lets you do them instead. Of course, the latter can be put down to you having to play the dang game, but from a story perspective, he's learned to grow patient with each puppeteer, and is willing to be guided by them... Despite that it appears he doesn't need to be, at least to be able to fight and move around. He may not need a puppeteer to physically move him around, he simply allows it. Why he needs a puppeteer otherwise, well, headcanon all you like. One of my headcannons is that the batter is blind... Literally speaking. He can fight fine without eyesight, but he finds it difficult to find his way around areas otherwise, so you are essentially enabling him to see, whether through controlling him...Or through some kind of metaphysical sense, where he is able to gain eyesight, merely because you have eyesight.
The Batter needs a puppeteer in more ways than one. He needs you to summon an area to fight within so that he doesn't get ambushed mid-battle (That means truly outside forces cannot be summoned as explained in the first fight with the second guardian.) You also actually help with the competence and are a master tactician, which is why he asks whether he can do this himself or you dictate his actions. Another reason is that, despite the batter having eyesight, he needs to constantly concentrate to keep you connected to him. Thus he can see what you see and why he and his three addons (Alpha, Omega, Elipsion) have this universe's equivalent to magic. This also explains why his eyes open when you disconnect from him and join the judge.
if i had to describe this song, it would feel like "horrific realization of betrayal", and given it plays when you fight the batter, you wonder who's betraying who.
I think it also stresses how pointless this battle is. It doesn't really matter who defeats who because the Batter already has won. All the zones have been purified. The only difference is whether or not the Batter gets to pull the switch and let the world be pure nothingness.
I'd imagine that the more elegant and choir like instruments are to represent the judge, and the vicious and coarse percussion is to represent the batter.
Where's the shock, when they find out they have to choose between the Judge or the Batter, or when they see the Batter's monster form when they side with the Judge?
Meko Katsu Do you know each other or something? Because that would mean you know what mister JHenry's standards for games are :P Otherwise, how can you talk about his personal lists, of course it would be his opinion, what else would it be?
Since everyone else is posting theories here: might as well put mine: The Whale was the master mind of the whole game, and he is basically Jesus. All hail whale. Awesome song btw, it really conveys the whole "good vs. evil" thing
I beat this game for the first time today, getting every ending. And I have to say: THAT THE HECK? This was one heck of a game. By the time I got to the end of it, I had no idea what to think. I was so emotionally drained that I had no way to process either of the endings, other than acceptance. I pick the Batter, I kill the Judge, I switch it to off, and accept. I pick Judge, think "The Batter turns into THAT if I don't pick him?!", I kill the Bad Batter (I'm surprised that he goes down even faster than the Judge), I save what little remains of existence, and accept. As for the apes, would have been nice to see those brains they were talking about.
If the Bad Batter goes down even faster than the Judge, it's because in the original ending (The Batter's Ending), the Judge doesn't use his strongest attacks. He has access to a variety of attacks, can inflict almost any ailment upon your party, and has access to all degrees of violence, be it weak, normal, strong, or really powerful. However, in the Judge's Ending, you are in control of the Judge. You can use any attack. That's why Bad Batter goes down even faster than the Judge.
Is it just me, or if you turn up the volume loud enough, you can hear the wooden thunking of a baseball bat against a baseball during certain parts of the song? (Such as the bit starting at 0:27)
Stewartsaurus I know,but i like to think that they are giant onion rings because "a batter and three onion rings" a BATTER get it? because you dunk inon rings into a batter mixt- ah forget it that joke is only funny to me ; u ;
Oh, the nostalgia! I remember, a few years after OFF's release, I started putting a ton of effort in researching the game to find it's true story. I don't recall obtaining conclusive information, but I did find out that it is a representation of how the toddler character sees things from a mental disorder. Some say the Batter is the father who killed the child so the child didn't have to go through endless torment. I did find a few cool facts though. The enemy, Tiburce. Tiburce Moray is one of the many pseudonyms for Paschal Grousset, a French politician, science-fiction writer, journalist, and translator. The enemy, Gilles de Rais. Gilles de Rais was an old French leader who is notorious for slaughtering children. The enemy, Arpagon. The word Arpagus is a word to represent a child that dies in its cradle. The enemy, Troquantary. "Troc" is actually French for "Barter" which means to trade while Antaryamin means something for your inner-self. The boss, Japhet. Israel Meyer Japhet was a German choir. The enemy, Massu. Jacques Massu was a French general who fought during WWII, First Indochina War, The Algerian War, and the Suez Crisis. The boss, Dedan. Dedan is a biblical term for "low-ground". The boss, Enoch. Enoch is a character in the bible. I actually had to look on some documents I written long ago, I forgot about all that.
Gene Worm Doing your research, hmm? I am actually quite embarrassed that I was unaware of the majority of name origins in OFF. I was only aware of Enoch's and Dedan's name origins. Just a little fact, there was an error in the game's translation. "I won't let you lay a finger on the son brought us into the world!" was mistakenly translated as "I won't let you lay a finger on the son we brought into the world!". It's actually quite interesting that a son can create his own parents. Quite strange, if I do say so myself.
The Judge Interesting. I suppose some words in foreign languages can be ambiguous, so perhaps that's how they got it incorrect. I always wondered what "Vader Eloha" was in real life, but I could never find any correlation.
***** Yes! Forgot to mention that part. I remember something as well about Hugo being a child with some mental illness. If I recall correctly, my only correlation for Hugo's name was Charles Hugo who was a sailor who competed in an old summer Olympics.
+Gene Worm If I could mention my theory, beside of the origins of the names: I think that the batter is kind of a braincancer, who slowly drains the memory of the little boy. Would also explain the thing with the switch, like either the body manages to survive the cancer and the kid is like a tomato with nearly no brain or it dies. Would imo also explain, why the batter was fighting the kid in the end. That was actually the personality of the kid.
As everyone else has their theories, I behold mine: So, before the events of the game, Hugo made The Queen and The Batter... somehow. He made them as kinda pseudo-parents to protect him after the world was destroyed and his real parents were presumably destroyed, or simply too neglectful to care about their son. Then the Queen made the Guardians: Dedan, Japhet, Enoch, and possibly Pablo, and with their help made a world for Hugo. And the guardians made their respective worlds: Zone 1,2,3 and Zero respectively. And Hugo is the guardian of The Room. Things were going pretty well for a while. Then specters started to appear... for some reason. So the Batter decided to purify the world of the specters. And so Hugo actually called the player to help The Batter, since The Batter was not, by himself, powerful enough to purify the world. The Batter was, this entire time, trying to help Hugo. While he's dying, Hugo said he was afraid of the dark. The Specters were bringing darkness. In purifying the zones, he rendered them white... and without darkness. In purifying Hugo, he purified The Room, erasing the last remanence of darkness. This entire time, he legitimately thought he was helping Hugo. Now for the ending. The official ending is straightforward enough. The Batter kills Pablo, and turns off the universe. By destroying the universe, he destroyed all traces of it's impurities: That which does not exist can not be flawed. As for The Judge's ending..... I know this goes against what Mortis himself said, but what Pablo is fighting, Bad Batter, IS in fact the Batter. Before the battle, The Batter says that he needs the player to purify the world. And the Bad Batter is why. The Batter, by himself, can not handle the extreme power that he has accumulated. Without The Player helping him, his body is mutilated by his power, turning him into The Bad Batter. And his Add Ons are not attached to The Batter, but the Player, which is why the Bad Batter can't use them. But Pablo can't use them either, since they were made for The Batter. If you pick to the Judge's ending but get killed, The Batter reclaims The Player, allowing him to reclaim his normal form.
The plots and settings of OFF and Lisa don't even remotely resemble each other, meanwhile, Undertale and OFF both have the main "mechanic" (I know it's not a mechanic but I don't know what to call it) of fighting monsters, and it's cool to compare them because those games approach the same issue with completely opposite perspectives. Also the setting, the character design and even some of the items are very similar.
@@HTFFanOfFlaky But that is really important in LISA, being the center of the story. In OFF it's probably just a coincidence, no one ever mentions that. The Elsens don't even have a specified gender. Also, there are two women in OFF, you forgot about Sucre.
And yet the Player continues. Despite knowing they've been duped into doing wrong and being confronted with it, they continue on the path instead of walking away. If they could do right, if they could choose a different path, then maybe it'd be easier to justify continuing to the endgame. But then you do the unspeakable. You commit the last atrocities, trying to justify it by saying that you were duped or that it was a perverse mercy. But deep inside, you've been seized by an unstoppable urge to finish, having come so far and knowing so little about the ultimate fate, though you know your only road is that of darkness. So the question remains is not 'Did the Batter dupe the player', for that answer lasts only until after they've been confronted with the truth. The question is 'Can you Judge a person when their only choices are to quit or to do evil, and the reality of those evil deeds are dubious at best?' After all, it's just a game. In fact, it's because it's a game. Is it fair to restrict a person's choices to the options of forsaking their efforts or doing wrong in a game? Is right, if that is he case, to judge them for not wanting to let go of their investment in that case? Or are curiosity and the unwillingness to let go, in and of themselves, enough to condemn a person? Whatever the case may be, remember this: Would he have ended that innocent life had you not pulled the trigger? After all, he admits he can't do anything without you. Are you sure it's not your fault?
You leveled him up.... You had great times with him.... You slain demonic beasts with him... But you learned his true intentions... He destroys everything and everyone in his path.... Is out of mercy, or malice? Do you still fight with him to finish the job? Or rebel and stop him? Either way, the damage is done. Is it truly too late to redeem yourself? Are you even redeeming yourself in the first place? Only you can decide that.
All this talk about OFF and Undertale being better than the other and yet both fandoms fail to see that they both question the norm when it comes to "Doing the right thing."
Asriel, The Absolute God of Edgy Yep, all the time. LISA, Undertale, and OFF are all great games, but the fanbases are always at war with each other. Off topic, but dang, I'm seeing you everywhere these days.
I was thinking this needs a sequel, maybe called "ON" or something... But then I remembered that no matter which ending you choose, the world is gone. There is no point in a sequel if there is no world that exists, and everybody is just gone after you either kill the judge or the Batter... Still, it would be interesting to see if this game got a sequel
If you choose to side with Judge, Hugo's consciousness is already gone, and his brain is forced be on throughout his coma without any purpose to his imagination. It's a fate worse than death
I personally sided with the Judge only because killing the Batter felt good after what happened to Valerie. That moment where the Judge meowed his heart out calling out for Valerie never fails to make me tear up. So I decided to give the Judge what he preferred - an empty void, but content in knowing he stopped the Batter from ultimately ending it all, and finally avenging his brother.
@@dollycheesecakes3658 It’s better than Your Best Nightmare, but it can’t beat Hopes, and Dreams, i have never heard something so amazing, though Avatar Beat, almost beats it for sounding like Idiotque, by Radiohead, but it can’t because of how much i love Asriel, especially in Hyperdeath.
You have caused mass genocide, murdered your wife and child and brought the world to its knees and are about to destroy it. Why would you deserve a fun, challenging fight after what you have done? This is the game's way of spitting in your face before the end. And job well fucking done.
Alright! Batter, time to see your demise! I mean, the judge seems like he can ta- *Sees batter* HOLY SHIT KILL IT FROM FIRE AND NUKE IT FROM ORBIT WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IN GOD'S NAME IS THAT!?
XD okay weirdest thing ever. I was watching TV and I put TV on mute and just played this It was hilarious watching random commercials with this playing reminded me of Too Many Cooks.
an ad for a kid's toy in on, and the whole time there's just this tense, hopeless, angry beat in the background. while a furby is on screen, and the ad says it "plays music".
Ok, after looking at some people who previously were known for OFF have switched to other games, specifically Undertale. I think the game went a bit too far.
+Karkat Vantas They are both special and mysterious in their own ways. This was a French game I believe, and Undertale was made by one man in America I believe.
Boney M's "Rasputin" lyrics make me think of this game Precisely: "Ra ra Rasputin Lover of the Russian queen There was a cat that really was gone Ra ra Rasputin Russia's greatest love machine It was a shame how he carried on" "For the queen he was no wheeler dealer Though she'd heard the things he'd done She believed he was a holy healer Who would heal her son"
I like to think of this song not as the final boss theme, but as the game's credits song. While antagonizing, it feels like an epilogue to something that already has happened and cannot be altered, regardless of your choice. It's all over and there's nothing you can do about it but do another playthrough if you want. It also seem to represent the painful purification process of existence, which fits the whole "ending theme" vibe I get from it.
update your a brutal yakees baseball player you meet a cat then you go to a place and then spoopy ghosts after that you meet weird mean guy and he hates you after that you meet a pycho birb after that you feel like a monster but after that you kill big version of boss baby after that you find a switch but then cat comes to you insulting you by calling you a NORMIE you get really triggered and wack the cat with a baseball bat then flip the switch side note you killed your wife/child/ and met a weeb
garbage - chan The player is indeed the Real Monster, yet, that goes for the people who *Played* the game... Who is deemed the True Monster, if someone never Played...?
Uhh Meow Yet without the Batters Puppeteer, he couldn't even walk... The player is a Monster, without knowing it. And they keep going, even when they know the real meaning behind it all. Because all they want, is to "Win" this game. But thinking of it, "Winning" isn't everything is it...?
Perhaps we were all just scared? Maybe we just didn't know what to expect from the Batter's actions...But who were we to judge? We didn't know the rules of this world.
I noticed that when choosing the special ending, the Add-ons weren't on his side, maybe beacuse we stopped controlling him and the add-ons ended up leaving him?
I'll miss this game and its music : ( It's now 5 years old... (The game was actually made in 2011) My only two wishes were 1. The Owner explain Everything to us 2. OFF2 gets Released
There will be no OFF 2, the creator said it Even if its going to happen, what would be about? the whole world became the mu (the nothingness) when the batter turned off the switch
OFF came out in 2008, the translation came out in 2011. Mortis said that the game's ending and the entire game itself is up to the player's interpretation, and there will never be a new OFF game, let alone a sequel, since everything is destroyed
The Super Shiny Mega Gengar Because it’s the final battle of the game. Depending on which side you choose, either side can be equally saddening. On one hand, you side with the purifier that you stuck with for so long, purposely “purifying” all life... and on the other hand, you side with what is most likely the last living creature in a feeble attempt to save what is left of all creation; a small space that wasn’t purified.
what would you prefer? literally fucking nothing except a white void with nothing but your own thoughts and regrets for all eternity or literally fucking nothing
Me too, only because killing the Batter felt good after what happened to Valerie. That moment where Judge meowed his heart out calling out for Valerie never fails to make me tear up. So I decided to give the Judge what he preferred - an empty void, but content in knowing he stopped the Batter from ultimately ending it all.
Every game has a protagonist...
But not all are heroes.
+Some Random “Fandom Trash” Artist I consider The Batter a hero
+Some Random “Fandom Trash” Artist
Truer words have never been uttered.
If someone ever asks about the end of this game, that is all that needs to be said.
+Some Random “Fandom Trash” Artist but when everyone else is a villain, what does that make the force opposing them?
Aj simons A necessity.
+IAm NotSmartest is a necessity a hero then?
Batter: I'm going to purify this world.
Player: You mean just get rid of the specters right?
Batter: ...
Player: *Right?!*
Sounds holy and demonic at the same time, really captures the batter's true state of being.
I think it supposed to represent the battle between good and evil.
Who is the evil? The being purifying the world or the being who sat back and let it happen?
the angel of death
@@omori3341 Man i can't even think
It sounds to me, like undeadness. A state between life and death, a purgatory, which I suppose was what the room this battle takes place in was like, the bare and featureless remains of a world beaten lifeless, yet still bearing life within it.
I'm back here after playing through the game again recently, and I noticed something that really gave me pause. During the confrontation with The Judge, The Batter says "No! Don't do that!" To the player whenever Judge tells you to give join him. It's the only time (that I can recall at least) that The Batter gives us, the puppeteer, an order. It gave me such chills that I couldn't help but side with The Batter this playthrough.
I guess you could say that the beginning of the Zone 2 timed trial could have him commanding you ("Let's purify these spirits, and fast."), but that might be more of a suggestion than an order, since I don't recall there being an exclamation mark which usually means ordering someone to do something
@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan him saying "let's" seems sorta nice idk why
I interpreted it as begging more than anything, especially on first playthrough.
The batter knows that the judge could've given a compelling argument to the player, and that they singlehandedly are capable of making people win fights, it's basically an opportunity for his plan to fall apart at the last moment.
well, if we think about it the player is being manipulated by the batter since the very beginning, and one doesn't realize that until the end, when we have finished our mission of "purification" by eradicating almost any lifeform in the world, or even before, during the conversation with Enoch, when he says that areas can't survive without their guardians, and that instead of liberating them, we are destroying them.
Literally the only moment Batter has had any form of emotion in the entire game...
Avatar Beat might as well be your theme, you're the one who made him so powerful. In the end you decide which avatar you keep: the judge or the batter
Avatar Beat - You are the puppeteer, you choose an avatar (Batter or Pablo) and then they beat each other till one of them dies... Makes perfect sense.
Honestly, this game is one of those games that I'm glad I didn't watch someone else play, but instead decide to play the whole thing myself. It made the game have a lasting impression on me, and I'll always remember it. It really hit home with the fact that nobody in the game is truly in the right, nor the wrong. And this boss fight was so subtly and beautifully executed. The entire game really hit me in some deep and subconscious places, and I loved it.
Heh, it really hit HOME.
Lucas rip Felix....
@@MysticIceFire ;-;
same
@@MysticIceFire rest in peace, felix
Remember: EVERYONE in OFF has sinned, no one is pure, we may not know what the switch does, but it is of great importance, Zacharie knows the endings, and he is friends with both The Batter and Pablo, the real judge is you, the player, Pablo or our mysterious adversary? Who is the real villain? And who is really on a holy quest? If perspectives come into play, what REALLY did happen? The answer we shall never know, because we are not supposed to, we simply exist to serve and guide, we must choose who is the real messiah, the fate of the world depends on your selection, choose wisely...
+TheMasterchiefan What about the cats? Even if you say The Judge sinned for not stopping the Batter earlier, you can't say his brother did anything wrong than trying to eat a bird that turned out to be sentient.
+TheMasterchiefan This is a hella perfect prospective of the game.
+Devin Craig Maybe he didn't know?
HassouTobi Who, Judge's brother or The Judge?
I would say the Judge's Brother DEFINITELY didn't know what he was doing.
Devin Craig Judge's brother.
He's a cat after all. He eats birds. It's not his fault the one he tried to eat was the guardian of the zone.
"That choice was, though pathetically useless, I think the right one."
How do you go from the goofiness of Pepper Steaks to literally the end of existence itself...
RaDD C pretty sure you were the 666th comment. GG!
I have no idea
I always loved how the music portraits the futility and the void that exists beyond the fight. The most serious and straight-to-the-point theme I ever heard in a videogame.
yes
Just a theory, but....
Ever thought that perhaps when we first meet the batter, we are really near the end of his journey?
He hasn't just started his mission, heck, he's been doing it for a while in other places, but only now in the last stretch of it do you become his puppeteer. This would explain why he doesn't know his way around the areas, why he's very battle savvy... And why, despite that he could solve the puzzles himself, he lets you do them instead. Of course, the latter can be put down to you having to play the dang game, but from a story perspective, he's learned to grow patient with each puppeteer, and is willing to be guided by them... Despite that it appears he doesn't need to be, at least to be able to fight and move around. He may not need a puppeteer to physically move him around, he simply allows it. Why he needs a puppeteer otherwise, well, headcanon all you like. One of my headcannons is that the batter is blind... Literally speaking. He can fight fine without eyesight, but he finds it difficult to find his way around areas otherwise, so you are essentially enabling him to see, whether through controlling him...Or through some kind of metaphysical sense, where he is able to gain eyesight, merely because you have eyesight.
thatd explain why his eyes are NEVER open (until the judge ending).
The Batter needs a puppeteer in more ways than one.
He needs you to summon an area to fight within so that he doesn't get ambushed mid-battle (That means truly outside forces cannot be summoned as explained in the first fight with the second guardian.)
You also actually help with the competence and are a master tactician, which is why he asks whether he can do this himself or you dictate his actions.
Another reason is that, despite the batter having eyesight, he needs to constantly concentrate to keep you connected to him. Thus he can see what you see and why he and his three addons (Alpha, Omega, Elipsion) have this universe's equivalent to magic. This also explains why his eyes open when you disconnect from him and join the judge.
Vic Cole Mortis Ghost said there aren't other zones besides the zones we purify.
He can't use competences without a puppeteer.
But what if you're blind
if i had to describe this song, it would feel like "horrific realization of betrayal", and given it plays when you fight the batter, you wonder who's betraying who.
Yeah, and I also feel like it reminds us that at that point nothing we do matters, everything is futile. This song gives me the chills.
It also plays when you fight the Judge, so in reality, this song can mean "corrupted loyalty" or "sudden betrayal".
I think it also stresses how pointless this battle is. It doesn't really matter who defeats who because the Batter already has won. All the zones have been purified.
The only difference is whether or not the Batter gets to pull the switch and let the world be pure nothingness.
I'd imagine that the more elegant and choir like instruments are to represent the judge, and the vicious and coarse percussion is to represent the batter.
I can hear the many shocked sounds of youtubers that played this.
Coryxkenshin :v
+Deactivated Bonnie YEP
Modaltib That was the best reaction.
Where's the shock, when they find out they have to choose between the Judge or the Batter, or when they see the Batter's monster form when they side with the Judge?
for me it was the first time I explored a zone that had been cleansed
OFF has managed to nestle itself in my top 5 of the best games I've ever played. Thats a very hard thing for a game to do.
*Opinion
+Meko Katsu I mean... he did say "Top 5 of the best games I've ever played," not "Top 5 best games ever"
Jre He said "That's a very hard othing to do." I was talking about that.
Meko Katsu Do you know each other or something? Because that would mean you know what mister JHenry's standards for games are :P Otherwise, how can you talk about his personal lists, of course it would be his opinion, what else would it be?
what is off?
The day you fight your own monster.
the day you notice that you are a enemy
The day you fight your own monster,
or continue to hide it from sight.
Wow, I went deep...um, ok.
The day you turn the world off
ok that was low
also known as confronting your anime obsession.
The day you jam to this theme at 1.25 speed
This is easily in the top 3 best songs in OFF
I agree
"Sometimes someone that you like suddenly looks very different..."
I'm awestruck at how a member of my species has made something like this. It's amazing what mankind can create.
Faith in humanity restored, lets see how long it takes for me to lose it again.
Oh don't worry, just search "off (mortis ghost)" on tumblr and your faith will be gone in no time
Steve Craftia Hey the off fanbase on tumblr is awesome
***** I haven't seen much of that, but remember, rule 34, no exceptions.
***** They focus exclusively on "ships" which really ruins the entire ambient the game has established.
Since everyone else is posting theories here: might as well put mine:
The Whale was the master mind of the whole game, and he is basically Jesus.
All hail whale.
Awesome song btw, it really conveys the whole "good vs. evil" thing
It really conveys how fucked up the situation is.
+Spores McMinely Mind blown bruh
He was having a whale of a time.
This fandom isnt the pun one. That would be...
*reads script*
... Undertale.
The whale started everything. The whale is the true god, all hail space whale.
I beat this game for the first time today, getting every ending. And I have to say:
THAT THE HECK?
This was one heck of a game. By the time I got to the end of it, I had no idea what to think. I was so emotionally drained that I had no way to process either of the endings, other than acceptance. I pick the Batter, I kill the Judge, I switch it to off, and accept. I pick Judge, think "The Batter turns into THAT if I don't pick him?!", I kill the Bad Batter (I'm surprised that he goes down even faster than the Judge), I save what little remains of existence, and accept.
As for the apes, would have been nice to see those brains they were talking about.
If the Bad Batter goes down even faster than the Judge, it's because in the original ending (The Batter's Ending), the Judge doesn't use his strongest attacks. He has access to a variety of attacks, can inflict almost any ailment upon your party, and has access to all degrees of violence, be it weak, normal, strong, or really powerful. However, in the Judge's Ending, you are in control of the Judge. You can use any attack. That's why Bad Batter goes down even faster than the Judge.
Is it just me, or if you turn up the volume loud enough, you can hear the wooden thunking of a baseball bat against a baseball during certain parts of the song? (Such as the bit starting at 0:27)
Now that you mention it... 0_0
OMG I´M FREAKING OUT DUDE O_O I could actually hear it when the music goes slow. Like someone batting baseballs.
That, my friends, I do believe is the sound of purification intensifying.
When purification 2 stronk
CaptainCraftIt And at 00:47 it sounds like a wooden baseball bat being dragged across the floor.
"It doesn't matter. It was fun."
Oh wait, wrong game.
Damn it all! What is that from?
+Riven Delisle I ask the same thing.
Soul Nomad, Demon Path bad ending.
_It's too late. Everything is lost._
_I know._
*But I prefer this over your victory.*
a batter and three onion rings are ready to purify you
they are hula hoops. They are too big to be onion rings.
Stewartsaurus I know,but i like to think that they are giant onion rings because "a batter and three onion rings" a BATTER get it? because you dunk inon rings into a batter mixt- ah forget it that joke is only funny to me ; u ;
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
Stewartsaurus ....(you could've just ignored it and not murder me with your fake laugh)
That was not fake. I actually thought that was hilarious.
Oh, the nostalgia! I remember, a few years after OFF's release, I started putting a ton of effort in researching the game to find it's true story. I don't recall obtaining conclusive information, but I did find out that it is a representation of how the toddler character sees things from a mental disorder. Some say the Batter is the father who killed the child so the child didn't have to go through endless torment.
I did find a few cool facts though.
The enemy, Tiburce. Tiburce Moray is one of the many pseudonyms for Paschal Grousset, a French politician, science-fiction writer, journalist, and translator.
The enemy, Gilles de Rais. Gilles de Rais was an old French leader who is notorious for slaughtering children. The enemy, Arpagon. The word Arpagus is a word to represent a child that dies in its cradle.
The enemy, Troquantary. "Troc" is actually French for "Barter" which means to trade while Antaryamin means something for your inner-self.
The boss, Japhet. Israel Meyer Japhet was a German choir.
The enemy, Massu. Jacques Massu was a French general who fought during WWII, First Indochina War, The Algerian War, and the Suez Crisis.
The boss, Dedan. Dedan is a biblical term for "low-ground".
The boss, Enoch. Enoch is a character in the bible.
I actually had to look on some documents I written long ago, I forgot about all that.
Gene Worm Doing your research, hmm? I am actually quite embarrassed that I was unaware of the majority of name origins in OFF. I was only aware of Enoch's and Dedan's name origins. Just a little fact, there was an error in the game's translation. "I won't let you lay a finger on the son brought us into the world!" was mistakenly translated as "I won't let you lay a finger on the son we brought into the world!". It's actually quite interesting that a son can create his own parents. Quite strange, if I do say so myself.
The Judge Interesting. I suppose some words in foreign languages can be ambiguous, so perhaps that's how they got it incorrect. I always wondered what "Vader Eloha" was in real life, but I could never find any correlation.
***** Yes! Forgot to mention that part. I remember something as well about Hugo being a child with some mental illness. If I recall correctly, my only correlation for Hugo's name was Charles Hugo who was a sailor who competed in an old summer Olympics.
+Gene Worm If I could mention my theory, beside of the origins of the names:
I think that the batter is kind of a braincancer, who slowly drains the memory of the little boy.
Would also explain the thing with the switch, like either the body manages to survive the cancer and the kid is like a tomato with nearly no brain or it dies. Would imo also explain, why the batter was fighting the kid in the end. That was actually the personality of the kid.
Japhet is named after a choir and his attacks are Soprano, tenor, and alto.
As everyone else has their theories, I behold mine:
So, before the events of the game, Hugo made The Queen and The Batter... somehow. He made them as kinda pseudo-parents to protect him after the world was destroyed and his real parents were presumably destroyed, or simply too neglectful to care about their son.
Then the Queen made the Guardians: Dedan, Japhet, Enoch, and possibly Pablo, and with their help made a world for Hugo. And the guardians made their respective worlds: Zone 1,2,3 and Zero respectively. And Hugo is the guardian of The Room.
Things were going pretty well for a while. Then specters started to appear... for some reason. So the Batter decided to purify the world of the specters. And so Hugo actually called the player to help The Batter, since The Batter was not, by himself, powerful enough to purify the world.
The Batter was, this entire time, trying to help Hugo. While he's dying, Hugo said he was afraid of the dark. The Specters were bringing darkness. In purifying the zones, he rendered them white... and without darkness. In purifying Hugo, he purified The Room, erasing the last remanence of darkness. This entire time, he legitimately thought he was helping Hugo.
Now for the ending.
The official ending is straightforward enough. The Batter kills Pablo, and turns off the universe. By destroying the universe, he destroyed all traces of it's impurities: That which does not exist can not be flawed.
As for The Judge's ending..... I know this goes against what Mortis himself said, but what Pablo is fighting, Bad Batter, IS in fact the Batter. Before the battle, The Batter says that he needs the player to purify the world. And the Bad Batter is why. The Batter, by himself, can not handle the extreme power that he has accumulated. Without The Player helping him, his body is mutilated by his power, turning him into The Bad Batter. And his Add Ons are not attached to The Batter, but the Player, which is why the Bad Batter can't use them. But Pablo can't use them either, since they were made for The Batter.
If you pick to the Judge's ending but get killed, The Batter reclaims The Player, allowing him to reclaim his normal form.
Actually, the "Bad Batter" is just a change in perception.
MeeM It’s the guy’s own personal interpretation, and he gave a disclaimer beforehand, it’s just a bit of fun.
Huh, everyone tends to compare this with Undertale.
I want to se someone comparing OFF with Lisa.
Pit Seeker I FEEL YOUR PAIN
The plots and settings of OFF and Lisa don't even remotely resemble each other, meanwhile, Undertale and OFF both have the main "mechanic" (I know it's not a mechanic but I don't know what to call it) of fighting monsters, and it's cool to compare them because those games approach the same issue with completely opposite perspectives. Also the setting, the character design and even some of the items are very similar.
@@ninvic0 He's referring to the fact that only one girl is in the setting.
@@HTFFanOfFlaky But that is really important in LISA, being the center of the story. In OFF it's probably just a coincidence, no one ever mentions that. The Elsens don't even have a specified gender. Also, there are two women in OFF, you forgot about Sucre.
Zodiaku tf even is that
The choice is made.
The final judgement is now in effect.
Good luck...
Player.
I swear I didn't mean anything.
His fault, not mine. He deceived us.
And yet the Player continues. Despite knowing they've been duped into doing wrong and being confronted with it, they continue on the path instead of walking away. If they could do right, if they could choose a different path, then maybe it'd be easier to justify continuing to the endgame. But then you do the unspeakable. You commit the last atrocities, trying to justify it by saying that you were duped or that it was a perverse mercy. But deep inside, you've been seized by an unstoppable urge to finish, having come so far and knowing so little about the ultimate fate, though you know your only road is that of darkness.
So the question remains is not 'Did the Batter dupe the player', for that answer lasts only until after they've been confronted with the truth. The question is 'Can you Judge a person when their only choices are to quit or to do evil, and the reality of those evil deeds are dubious at best?' After all, it's just a game. In fact, it's because it's a game. Is it fair to restrict a person's choices to the options of forsaking their efforts or doing wrong in a game? Is right, if that is he case, to judge them for not wanting to let go of their investment in that case? Or are curiosity and the unwillingness to let go, in and of themselves, enough to condemn a person?
Whatever the case may be, remember this:
Would he have ended that innocent life had you not pulled the trigger? After all, he admits he can't do anything without you.
Are you sure it's not your fault?
It is not our fault.
We WERE duped.
The Batter expressed malicious intentions, and the only reason we went along is because he deceived us.
But is everyone as innocent as they seem?
You leveled him up....
You had great times with him....
You slain demonic beasts with him...
But you learned his true intentions...
He destroys everything and everyone in his path....
Is out of mercy, or malice?
Do you still fight with him to finish the job?
Or rebel and stop him?
Either way, the damage is done.
Is it truly too late to redeem yourself?
Are you even redeeming yourself in the first place?
Only you can decide that.
I know what you mean
All this talk about OFF and Undertale being better than the other and yet both fandoms fail to see that they both question the norm when it comes to "Doing the right thing."
I've seen that with LISA and Undertale as well.
+Lunacy Then have you, per chance, seen that with LISA and OFF?
Asriel, The Absolute God of Edgy Yep, all the time. LISA, Undertale, and OFF are all great games, but the fanbases are always at war with each other.
Off topic, but dang, I'm seeing you everywhere these days.
Lunacy
And once again:
They're all trying to question the norm on what it means to do the right thing.
Asriel, The Absolute God of Edgy Yep.
Why can't I hold all these theories?
Because it's just a theory.. a GAME THEORY.
thats was glorious friend
Let's count the theories...
Two to the one, to the one to the three.
Let me tell you my entire story
I was thinking this needs a sequel, maybe called "ON" or something... But then I remembered that no matter which ending you choose, the world is gone. There is no point in a sequel if there is no world that exists, and everybody is just gone after you either kill the judge or the Batter... Still, it would be interesting to see if this game got a sequel
HELL YEAH
would make sense if it got a prequel, but Mortis has probably moved on to other projects by now
"There is no point in a sequel if there is no world that exists"
Several OFF fangames, taking place after the ending of OFF: *bonjour*
Clearly you haven't seen ONE, or any of the other fangames that happen after OFF
HOME, and Continue Stop Rise
If you choose to side with Judge, Hugo's consciousness is already gone, and his brain is forced be on throughout his coma without any purpose to his imagination.
It's a fate worse than death
I personally sided with the Judge only because killing the Batter felt good after what happened to Valerie. That moment where the Judge meowed his heart out calling out for Valerie never fails to make me tear up. So I decided to give the Judge what he preferred - an empty void, but content in knowing he stopped the Batter from ultimately ending it all, and finally avenging his brother.
@@cryluneValerie was already dead before The Batter even encountered him tho. That was just Japhet using his empty vessel
they should have changed the "battle time" to "judgement day" in this fight....
You Can Feel Your Heart *Beating*
You Know What Your *Avatar* Has become
Become? Oh no no no, it's more like Is.
By far the best final boss theme I've ever heard
Then Undertale, happened huh.
@@joshshrum2764 REJECT FLOWEYS BOSS THEME
GO BACK TO AVATAR BEAT
@@dollycheesecakes3658 It’s better than Your Best Nightmare, but it can’t beat Hopes, and Dreams, i have never heard something so amazing, though Avatar Beat, almost beats it for sounding like Idiotque, by Radiohead, but it can’t because of how much i love Asriel, especially in Hyperdeath.
honestly just waiting for the inevitable Dancing Mad comment that shows up every time someone says "this is the best final boss theme"
I wish the fight was more tough and long-enduring, so I could listen to this and actually feel like this is a final boss.
enoch and sugar's fights where long because
*T H E Y H A D S O M U C H H P*
I know.
it was just annoying and not fun
just spamming attacks and special attacks
OFF's battle system is the only bad part of OFF
You have caused mass genocide, murdered your wife and child and brought the world to its knees and are about to destroy it.
Why would you deserve a fun, challenging fight after what you have done? This is the game's way of spitting in your face before the end. And job well fucking done.
The Bad Batter ... Eyyy! Bad Batter/Monster Batter! The enemy that seemingly dies in 3 hits for Pablo... Your still my favorite character
Alright! Batter, time to see your demise! I mean, the judge seems like he can ta-
*Sees batter*
HOLY SHIT KILL IT FROM FIRE AND NUKE IT FROM ORBIT WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IN GOD'S NAME IS THAT!?
>he has your eyes
>they are filled with fear.
XD
okay weirdest thing ever.
I was watching TV and I put TV on mute and just played this
It was hilarious watching random commercials with this playing
reminded me of Too Many Cooks.
that would be fun to try
an ad for a kid's toy in on, and the whole time there's just this tense, hopeless, angry beat in the background. while a furby is on screen, and the ad says it "plays music".
I need to watch sponge bob while listening to this
The beat is so solid holy ship
Ship? WHAT SHIP? (Batterie? hehe)
The Lugia Song
X'D Batterie...
Aya x Dio.
Deyvydzinho Hartmannzinhoawwwww ship :o
I remember watching LP's of OFF like it was yesterday... Now it's Undertale that I'm watching, but I still remember this game.
Ok, after looking at some people who previously were known for OFF have switched to other games, specifically Undertale.
I think the game went a bit too far.
+darkgrenade I remember actually playing both games for myself like people should be doing.
+darkgrenade I remember this game
+Karkat Vantas They are both special and mysterious in their own ways. This was a French game I believe, and Undertale was made by one man in America I believe.
darkgrenade OFF was one of the first games I really got into
Purity comes at a great price.
The switch is now on off.
oh boy 3 am
I consider this Batter's battle theme because it fits The Batter more than The Judge
Boney M's "Rasputin" lyrics make me think of this game
Precisely:
"Ra ra Rasputin
Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that really was gone
Ra ra Rasputin
Russia's greatest love machine
It was a shame how he carried on"
"For the queen he was no wheeler dealer
Though she'd heard the things he'd done
She believed he was a holy healer
Who would heal her son"
I like to think of this song not as the final boss theme, but as the game's credits song. While antagonizing, it feels like an epilogue to something that already has happened and cannot be altered, regardless of your choice. It's all over and there's nothing you can do about it but do another playthrough if you want. It also seem to represent the painful purification process of existence, which fits the whole "ending theme" vibe I get from it.
Wow that makes this sounding like Idiotque, by Radiohead, even more fitting since that’s about a iceage coming you can’t stop the outcome of.
If only these battles weren't so easy
I play this whenever my cat's angry at me lol
Hey inner demons, It's ya boy.
So there's a Yankees baseball player and his hula hoops and they are ready to clean your baseball field. It costs 100000000 credit
update your a brutal yakees baseball player you meet a cat then you go to a place and then spoopy ghosts after that you meet weird mean guy and he hates you after that you meet a pycho birb after that you feel like a monster but after that you kill big version of boss baby after that you find a switch but then cat comes to you insulting you by calling you a NORMIE you get really triggered and wack the cat with a baseball bat then flip the switch side note you killed your wife/child/ and met a weeb
@@boredomkiller8457 after you do that
SPACE APES HAHAHA
That choice was, although futile, the right one, I think.
this is one of the greatest comment sections of all time
P U R I F I C A T I O N . . . I N P R O G R E S S
The day you realize the bad choices you made are coming back to you.
that's everyday
prettywelltbh
To all people who have or haven't played this game: *_Who is the real monster here...?_*
Eux
The player???
garbage - chan The player is indeed the Real Monster, yet, that goes for the people who *Played* the game... Who is deemed the True Monster, if someone never Played...?
Uhh Meow
Yet without the Batters Puppeteer, he couldn't even walk... The player is a Monster, without knowing it. And they keep going, even when they know the real meaning behind it all. Because all they want, is to "Win" this game. But thinking of it, "Winning" isn't everything is it...?
your mo- I MEAN THE BATTER
This song is exactly how I feel after failing a test.
when your parents see that you have "avatar beat off" in your search history
I love this image
Now nothing remains except for our regrets.
Perhaps we were all just scared? Maybe we just didn't know what to expect from the Batter's actions...But who were we to judge?
We didn't know the rules of this world.
i cooked pepper steak with a plancha and it made me laugh when i turned it off x)
The Judgement has come.
In this fight, you must choose who is your Protagonist and who is your Antagonist.
The switch is set to ON
_• Flip switch_
• Do nothing
The switch is set to OFF
Don't mind me, I'm just revisiting a great game and all it has to offer.
(In 2024 too! I know, it's crazy, right?)
Congratulations! You're the hero that killed everything!~
Hooray!
It's better this way.
as much as i love off it's a real shame how piss easy the game is, this masterpiece barely plays for even a minute
Listened to this for six+ hours, something about it makes it good background music
I really like this soundtrack this has style. " Purification in process"
The switch is currently ON.
The switch is now on off.
+Juin The switch is again ON
+El Chuni The switch is now on OFF.
The switch is now ON.
The switch is now on OFF
The greates Evil lies within.
It is our choice to release it or turn it OFF.
I noticed that when choosing the special ending, the Add-ons weren't on his side, maybe beacuse we stopped controlling him and the add-ons ended up leaving him?
I think maybe now that you raise that point, the Add-ons were to help the puppeteer, not the Batter.
@@YuuyaKZMI Oh, that might be.
The switch is now on OFF.
0:54 "this is america..."
I'll miss this game and its music : (
It's now 5 years old...
(The game was actually made in 2011)
My only two wishes were 1. The Owner explain Everything to us 2. OFF2 gets Released
There will be no OFF 2, the creator said it
Even if its going to happen, what would be about? the whole world became the mu (the nothingness) when the batter turned off the switch
Demonkatzu Inaba What About the space Monkeys
Nope was released back in 2007 to 2008. It's over 7 years old.
OFF came out in 2008, the translation came out in 2011. Mortis said that the game's ending and the entire game itself is up to the player's interpretation, and there will never be a new OFF game, let alone a sequel, since everything is destroyed
Who would win?
An esteemed and clever Guardian
OR
Some pure boi
Who would win
A spoopy house cat
OR
Someone who like baseball, and has hoola hoops
Who would win
A common household pet, guarding all that is left of reality
Or
Some alligator monster duck baseball player
who would win
the cheshire cat and his guardian powers
or
some four-eyes with onion rings
Don't do that!
I need you to purify this world.
The Execution- wait that's a fangame.
y'all ever just sit on a library and wait for someone to come and purge you of your sins
haha
advacaries purified
@@falter1329 adversaries
learn to spell please
This song seems... Kind of depressed, and kind of Angry at the same time.
W3Rn1ckz that’s the point... is it not? It’s supposed to feel... desolate
it feels just like the player does. betrayed.
This is OFF's Megalovania.
[REDACTED] [REDACTED]
No. Megalovania is Undertale’s Avatar Beat.
@@NotThatUser fact
@@falter1329
Facts.
@@NotThatUser True, because even the Halloween Hack only came out months later.
Well?
Get to purifying!
[abaddonswim] yes let's go hit a cat with a baseball bat, ya'know, a nice game for cute children!
ANIMAL ABUSAL HAS NEVER BEEN SO CUTE!
Am I bad batter? Because my cat just scratched me alot of times.
Or PURR-ifying
140 bpm
You wish to rid the world of evil? that's a noble goal...
The road to hell is paved with noble intentions.
Is it me, or do I hear Sonic the Hedgehog 3 drums in this? They sound similar.
grimey chiptune = fucking boss :D
BlackFox Sinner maybe i have those genres mixed up x'D
I have chip trance .3. I made an 8bit version of Darude Sandstorm. And Zombie natuon
u forget to upload this at the list
pls do it when u can
Why do I feel.... sadness from this?
The Super Shiny Mega Gengar
Because it’s the final battle of the game. Depending on which side you choose, either side can be equally saddening. On one hand, you side with the purifier that you stuck with for so long, purposely “purifying” all life... and on the other hand, you side with what is most likely the last living creature in a feeble attempt to save what is left of all creation; a small space that wasn’t purified.
@@NotThatUser That explains it.
The Super Shiny Mega Gengar
Perhaps I was a year late in my explanation, but I’m surprised you even responded! Cheers.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLEEEEEEEEEEEE
I think the special judge ending is the best ending
what would you prefer?
literally fucking nothing except a white void with nothing but your own thoughts and regrets for all eternity
or
literally fucking nothing
Me too, only because killing the Batter felt good after what happened to Valerie. That moment where Judge meowed his heart out calling out for Valerie never fails to make me tear up. So I decided to give the Judge what he preferred - an empty void, but content in knowing he stopped the Batter from ultimately ending it all.
I'm ashamed to have first heard this song on fucking meepcity on roblox.
... me too man
I feel like I'm in a Jimmy Hendricks concert
Trouble with the trolley eh...
Option C: I go in front and save 6, and as a bonus it hits me.
*Eradication in process...*
*All adversaries DEAD.*
wait in my room shack
1:35 its just getting creepy
StealthPenguinGamerGirl if you like the music of off you could subscribe to dontbleedonthesuits they even do extended versions of some