What he does not tell you is that the wages for those prisoners is £4 a week - yes a week. How much do they make on those products? Its nothing more that slave labour dressed up as as rehabilitation. Pay them a property wage not less that £1 a day. Making scrubs for the NHS for less than a £1 a day - that jacket he picked up was clearly not cheap and how much does those that sell them make on it - more than £1 I would think .
@@snickerbuckle On one hand I am d'accord, but on the other hand I must say that most female prisoners were sentenced because they reacted to violence of their husbands, protecting their children, self-defence against raping, being prostituted and avoiding other aggressive attacks...it's sad that women have to use violence to protect themselves and their kids...
This is fabulous. Keeps them challenged and learning new skills. As someone who sews my sewing area is my happy place. And practice makes perfect. By the time they leave they will be very employable
@@snickerbuckle is that what you think the 1000 wrongly convicted Postmasters should have done - paid back society as they were convicted? They have to pay for EVERYTHING they use - toiletries snacks, etc. Also while they working for £4 a week and the items beings sold for top money someone is not being employees to make those clothes. They are paying back society by being locked away they are not there to then be slave labor. When you have known someone who was convicted because a man perverted the course of justice to get that conviction and that person tried to end their life before then being imprisoned come back to back and tell me about this pay back to society you think they owe She tried to end her life them was imprisoned all because a man lied then forced to work for £4 a week when that would not buy a tube of toothpaste. No one is allowed to taking in any supplies to them they have to buy them from the prison list which is 3-4 times more expensive that we would pay. So what debt do you think she owes to society! A man convicted of rape spent 14 years in prison for a crime he did not commit - did he owe a debt to society? You are deluded if you thing that prison have no innocent people. They owe you nothing - their are paying you back with their life being in prison. If they paid them a decent wages it might make any who are actually guilty think that they can change their lives through learning and work as look what it can buy you. They are still human and you assume that they must be wrong ones. One woman was impassioned for defy the court and not letting her abusive husband see her children - what debt does she owe you? People who killed pedophiles who tried to interfere where their of others children and on.
@@jlcraftyscot2 I sew also - was an industrial machinist but I still would not work for £4 when the items being sold are being sold for a lot of money. Maybe you could go and sew for the prison for free given that you say its your happy place or work for £4 a week. When I was trainee I earned a trainees wage as I could not go as fast as the experienced machinists but I still got paid a wage - I was not expected to be grateful that I would eventually get a job when I was trained as my work was sold. I can now set in both sleeves ( drop shoulder), make up and turn both cuffs, sew both sides' up and unders (from hem, to cuff) attach both cuffs to the sleeves and sew in the label on 12 jumpers in less than 30 minutes and I aint working for no £4 a week and someone making money out of my enslaved labor so why should they. There are also very few sewing factories to get jobs in so the skills are not being matched to outside work - I worked in that industry and most of the sewing factories are gone, highly skilled workers working in small designer places would need years and years of experienced and be highly trained. There is not a shortage of such people already out there, I could find you hundreds from the closed down factories I worked where those girls could produce highly skilled work and could change from using one machine to another in a second and sew any part of any garment or learn super quick any part they had not done before. It will be the same where ever you are in the country as the jobs are gone but the girls with the skills are still out there and could jump back into that world very quickly if the work was there.
art and crafts is medicine for the mind and soul🥰
Go on Winston lol rocking it , see ya soon
What he does not tell you is that the wages for those prisoners is £4 a week - yes a week. How much do they make on those products? Its nothing more that slave labour dressed up as as rehabilitation. Pay them a property wage not less that £1 a day. Making scrubs for the NHS for less than a £1 a day - that jacket he picked up was clearly not cheap and how much does those that sell them make on it - more than £1 I would think .
They are in prison to help repay their debt to society. This is a way they can do that. I don’t think it was set up to give them a living wage.
@@snickerbuckle On one hand I am d'accord, but on the other hand I must say that most female prisoners were sentenced because they reacted to violence of their husbands, protecting their children, self-defence against raping, being prostituted and avoiding other aggressive attacks...it's sad that women have to use violence to protect themselves and their kids...
This is fabulous. Keeps them challenged and learning new skills. As someone who sews my sewing area is my happy place. And practice makes perfect. By the time they leave they will be very employable
@@snickerbuckle is that what you think the 1000 wrongly convicted Postmasters should have done - paid back society as they were convicted? They have to pay for EVERYTHING they use - toiletries snacks, etc. Also while they working for £4 a week and the items beings sold for top money someone is not being employees to make those clothes. They are paying back society by being locked away they are not there to then be slave labor. When you have known someone who was convicted because a man perverted the course of justice to get that conviction and that person tried to end their life before then being imprisoned come back to back and tell me about this pay back to society you think they owe She tried to end her life them was imprisoned all because a man lied then forced to work for £4 a week when that would not buy a tube of toothpaste. No one is allowed to taking in any supplies to them they have to buy them from the prison list which is 3-4 times more expensive that we would pay. So what debt do you think she owes to society! A man convicted of rape spent 14 years in prison for a crime he did not commit - did he owe a debt to society? You are deluded if you thing that prison have no innocent people. They owe you nothing - their are paying you back with their life being in prison. If they paid them a decent wages it might make any who are actually guilty think that they can change their lives through learning and work as look what it can buy you. They are still human and you assume that they must be wrong ones. One woman was impassioned for defy the court and not letting her abusive husband see her children - what debt does she owe you? People who killed pedophiles who tried to interfere where their of others children and on.
@@jlcraftyscot2 I sew also - was an industrial machinist but I still would not work for £4 when the items being sold are being sold for a lot of money. Maybe you could go and sew for the prison for free given that you say its your happy place or work for £4 a week. When I was trainee I earned a trainees wage as I could not go as fast as the experienced machinists but I still got paid a wage - I was not expected to be grateful that I would eventually get a job when I was trained as my work was sold. I can now set in both sleeves ( drop shoulder), make up and turn both cuffs, sew both sides' up and unders (from hem, to cuff) attach both cuffs to the sleeves and sew in the label on 12 jumpers in less than 30 minutes and I aint working for no £4 a week and someone making money out of my enslaved labor so why should they. There are also very few sewing factories to get jobs in so the skills are not being matched to outside work - I worked in that industry and most of the sewing factories are gone, highly skilled workers working in small designer places would need years and years of experienced and be highly trained. There is not a shortage of such people already out there, I could find you hundreds from the closed down factories I worked where those girls could produce highly skilled work and could change from using one machine to another in a second and sew any part of any garment or learn super quick any part they had not done before. It will be the same where ever you are in the country as the jobs are gone but the girls with the skills are still out there and could jump back into that world very quickly if the work was there.
They are housed and feed for their crimes.
WTF!