Good thing that, while Burton third Batman film didn't happened, some ideas were used recently in Batman 89 comic book, including Batman reuniting with Selina, the apperance of Robin (who in the book is new original character instead of Dick Grayson) and Harvey Dent becoming Two Face . In my opinion, that comic book is the official "third film of Burton trilogy"
I am immediately reminded of the fact that we nearly got a Schumacher Batman after & Robin wherein the series would've had Harley Quinn in movie form as the daughter of Jack Nicholsen's Joker vowing revenge and teaming up with Johnathan Crane.
Well, at least we have the Fanscription version of Batman Forever, so we do still technically have a third Burton Batman movie. That and Keaton’s back in The Flash, so there’s that.
And it's terrible. The Fanscription version of a Tim Burton Batman Forever was terrible. I like the actual version better, and we had the Batman 89 comic in hardcover, and it was based on unmade ideas that Sam Hamm had in the first two films.
@Mark Guerrero and I would love to see Michael Keaton, Michelle Pfeiffer, Chris O'Donnell, and Alicia Silverstone returning for the Batman Beyond film, with archival footages of Jack Nicholson, Tommy Lee Jones, Jim Carrey, etc. And it'd be set after the events of Batman 89, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, and Batman & Robin.
Mcdonald's pulling their sponsorship of Batman Returns always felt weird to me because I distinctly remember having two of the Happy Meal toys and one of their special edition drinking cups as a kid. The toys were the Penguin car that had the umbrella up front that spun when you rolled the car across a flat surface. And the Batmobile that had the spring-loaded ejectable pod. To reference that part in the movie when Batman had to eject the pod to make it through a narrow gap. And the cup I had had Catwoman on it. The lid of the cup could also be used as a miniature Frisbee as it was labeled as a throwable mini Bat-Disk. So I don't know if it was only select McDonald's that canceled their promotion or if it was already underway for a bit and then had to recall all remaining toys and cups after the cancelation. Thus giving kids a small window of time to get ahold of a few toys and cups.
That backlash Batman Returns caused led to Tim Burton pass on the torch to his friend Joel Schumacher and help out hiring Lee and Janet Scott Batchler to write the screenplay for Batman Forever with Akiva Goldsman doing revisions, and Val Kilmer stepped into the role of Batman/Bruce Wayne. Thanks to Ben Wan (The Man Who Knows Too Much About Batman) and Andrew Bush on Superhero Stuff You Should Know for debunking rumors about a Burton Batman 3.
It would have been very interesting to see Tim Burton’s take on the 3rd Batman film but I think in hindsight, it ended up working out in the end, even though we did get that horrible Batman & Robin film, we did eventually get the phenomenal Dark Knight trilogy by Christopher Nolan.
Actually, it didn't exist. And I had no problems with Batman & Robin, because for me, B&R is my favorite Batman film. And yeah, I also loved Chris Nolan's Batman.
I like what we got. It would be super interesting to see what Tim Burton would have done, but I love Batman Forever, and even if I didn't, I think I'd love it's place in the history of the franchise.
4:53 This is NOT true whatsoever. There were only three scripts made for Batman Returns. Sam Hamm's, Daniel Waters, and finally Westley Strict. And none of them ever had Harvey become Two Face. Nor was he rewritten to be Max Shriek. Daniel Waters even denied this. 7:40 Dick Grayson in the script he was in for Daniel Waters's draft never had him wear the suit. In fact, he was only written to be a streetwise car mechanic with the letter R on his jumpsuit who repairs the Batmobile. And that's it. If there was a costume fitting, you'd think we would've seen the props by the designers by now? As for why Robin Williams wasn't Riddler. Well it was actually for something back in the original movie. Jack Nicholson originally turned the Joker role down and the studio tried finding other other actors like Robin Williams but this was a public stunt to get Nicholson back. And this broke Williams's heart that he was bitter towards WB that he turned down the role of Riddler for what WB did to him. Even The Mask featurette brought that Robin Williams turned down the role. So these urban legends MUST DIE!!!
I enjoy Batman Forever, and I'm more than willing to see the director's cut. It is darker and quite ambitious. There is a curiosity in what Burton's Batman 3 would've been like.
Actually, Tim Burton's Batman 3 never existed, according to Ben Wan (The Man Who Knows Too Much About Batman) and Andrew Bush on Superhero Stuff You Should Know. Batman Forever never started out as a Tim Burton project. It was always Joel Schumacher's baby. According to their interview with Lee and Janet Scott Batchler, Tim Burton's only involvement with Batman Forever was to hire his friend Joel Schumacher as director and helping out hiring the Batchlers to write the screenplay, and that's why in the opening credits of Batman Forever, Burton was credited as producer.
Robin Williams would have been perfect for the Riddler like in One Hour Photo he was creepy and It’s funny that they’re both the last Williams Robin and Billy Dee and if we had Paul Williams then we would have the Trio Williams 😂 Do the original script for Superman 3 please
Original Superman 3? Was that the really weird one with Brainiac and a Supergirl who was definitely *not* Superman cousin? There's also an interesting Superman 5 concept out there too, also with Brainiac.
Actually, Robin Williams would be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film. When Jim Carrey was cast, it was a good thing that they did, and I'm okay with that.
@@doctorvanya Kevin Smith, Wesley Strick, and Dan Gilroy add Brainiac into their screenplays for Superman Lives, with Jason Lee, Gary Oldman, Jim Carrey, and Christopher Walken on the list to play him, but they couldn't do Superman Lives, because it's due to budgetary reasons.
@@doctorvanya yeah where it’s like a fairy tale with a superhero element to it but I guess why they change supergirl since Superman did gave the amnesia kiss and try to give him a equal especially since that they established Jor El’s brother in the first movie like they did with General Zod because I could give it a few changes like make it a Adam and Eve concept as they always keep making Superman a modern Jesus.
While I don't mind Batman Forever (and would rip a man's lungs out to see the original cut of it), I'd absolutely would have loved to have seen what Burton, then at the top of his game, would have done with it. Same with his Superman move (though I don't know how much I'd have *liked* the Superman one.)
I would of liked to of seen Tim's version of the 3rd film as I would of also liked to of seen his Superman Returns with Nicolas Cage. Imagine Cage and Keaton acting off one another, 2 similar quirky actors sharing the same screen.
I'm going to say it: as long as Marlon Wayans' Robin was like the character in the recent Batman '89 comic (which I doubt he would be, since Sam Hamm has had decades to rework that idea into how it turns out in the book), it would have been one of the best versions of Robin committed to film. At least it would have been better than either of the Shumacher ones. I might be alone in this, but it clicked with me. And we had a great Billy Dee Williams-based Two-Face, though clearly Richard Moll in the animated series was light years better.
I would have thought that Val Kilmer and George Clooney to be much more expensive actors than Keaton. No one should ever replace directors such as Burton, Spielberg and Tarantino (maybe Cameron too?).
This 3rd tim Burton batman film was made into the batman '89 comic by the wrote the 1st. Which it had Billy dee Williams Harvey dent becoming two-face. Aldo a version of robin who was black
Can you do Lego Superfriends, the cancelled sequel to the Lego Batman Movie as well? We have yet to receive a leaked script but we had a pretty detailed production history and what it could’ve been about. In the sequel the Justice League would have a more significant role and the plot would have featured Batman’s relation to the Justice League (particularly Superman) in the present day as well as flashing back to the past (taking inspiration from Godfather 2 and Boogie Nights) with the founding of the Justice League by Batman and Superman in their youth and the villains would’ve been Lex Luthor and OMAC. The reason this movie was cancelled was because Warner Brothers letting go of the Lego movie rights and letting Universal take control of the Lego movie rights for a five year deal following Warner’s second Lego movie box office bomb with The Lego Movie 2 (after Lego Ninjago Movie)
Actually, Batman Forever didn't start out as a Tim Burton project, it was always Joel Schumacher's baby, according to Ben Wan (The Man Who Knows Too Much About Batman) and Andrew Bush on Superhero Stuff You Should Know. According to their interview with Lee and Janet Scott Batchler, Tim Burton's only involvement with Batman Forever was to hire his friend Joel Schumacher as director and help out hiring Lee and Janet Scott Batchler as the screenwriters. That's why in the opening credits of Batman Forever, Tim Burton was credited as producer. And it was Joel Schumacher who wanted Michael Keaton to come back as Batman/Bruce Wayne. Lee and Janet Scott Batchler wrote Batman with Michael Keaton in mind. His agency wanted $15 million and the piece of the gross and merchandising, but Keaton never liked the idea of Batman with a bigger role at the time. So he took a pass on it, and Val Kilmer stepped in to the role of Batman, and Kilmer, for me, delivered the best interpretation of the character. It was also Joel who wanted to do Two-Face, and he already knew he wanted Academy Award winner Tommy Lee Jones, and that's already a done deal. After Tommy Lee Jones was cast as Two-Face, it was Lee and Janet Scott Batchler who wanted to do The Riddler, and it was also Joel who wanted Jones' fellow Oscar winner, stand-up comedian, Julliard graduate, and comics geek Robin Williams to play The Riddler. The Batchlers did a wonderful job capturing his voice, because Robin Williams was a stand-up guy. Williams read the script and he loved it. Due to a salary dispute, the role went to Jim Carrey. And Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman was not in any draft of Batman Forever, because they wanted a Catwoman spin-off with Tim at the time, and the Batchlers created Dr. Chase Meridian as a love interest for Bruce Wayne/Batman. Joel originally cast Rene Russo as Chase when Joel wanted Michael Keaton to return. When Val Kilmer was cast as The Dark Knight, they recast Chase with Nicole Kidman. And it was Joel and the Batchlers who wanted to bring in the character of Robin/Dick Grayson. Leonardo DiCaprio, Mark Wahlberg, Ewan McGregor, Jude Law, Alan Cumming, Toby Stephens, and Scott Speedsman were on the list to play The Teen Wonder, but then, the role went to Chris O'Donnell, which is a good thing.
Well I enjoyed both Joel Schumacher's batman forever despite for a few nitpicks and that I'm still waiting for the Schumacher cut of the film and the fanscription video of what if Tim Burton directed batman forever.
The fanscription for "what if Tim Burton directed batman forever?" Is out right now, along with the three part "what if Tim Burton directed batman and robin?"
If they made exactly like Tim Burton did I would have left it a whole lot better than that Joel Schumacher 1. I wonder what Batman and Robin would have been like if Tim Burton direct that one as well.
Well, Tim Burton did the third one, which he produces the third one when he pass on the torch to his friend Joel Schumacher to continue, and helping out hiring Lee and Janet Scott Batchler to write the screenplay for the third one.
Even though I would have liked to,see this movie. I am glad this didn’t happen because I don’t like Marlon Waynas as Robin. It has nothing to do with his race. First he is too old to be Robin. The biggest complaint about Chris O’Donnell was that he is too old. If it is ok for Marlon to be Grayson but not Chris is hypocritical. The second thing is Marlon is the least funny member of his family. I think all of the Waynas family members are funny. Even Shawn is funnier than Marlon. At the time McCauley Culkin or Leonardo Dicarpio would have been good choices for the character. Since Leo doesn’t like doing comic book movies. Culkin would have been better, especially with his Home Alone fame. He would have been great as the character. Chris was great as the character anyway even though he is an adult Robin.
Well, Tim Burton did cast Ricky Addison Reed of A Return To Salem's Lot as Robin/Dick Grayson for Batman 89, and he even approach Kiefer Sutherland of Dark City for the role before the character was cut. Then had almost had Marlon Wayans as the mechanic Robin, which is a terrible idea for Batman Returns, but the character was cut yet again. And when Tim Burton pass on the torch to his friend Joel Schumacher to continue with the franchise with Batman Forever, Chris O'Donnell got the role, and it's a good thing they did.
@@Superlad945 so Burton wanted the least funny and least talented from the Wayanas brothers instead because he is black and In Living Color is popular? No!! Cast an actor that looks like the character!! Marlon isn’t even funny. I am glad Keaton never got a Robin then of that is what Burton was going to do.
@@Superlad945 that live action little Mermaid movie is crap. It is full of PC nonsense that makes Eric seem like the most bland character ever vs how he is in the animated movie. Screw Disney and Screw WB for not fully understanding DC characters all the time. I am sick of this political correct nonsense.
I would like to know why you find it ok when Keaton kills as Batman but when any other Batman actor does it that is wrong. He kills a few of Jokers goons in the church fight scene. The final fight against the Joker, the clown Prince eventually dies. Granted if he didn’t die he would have gotten away on his helicopter. So Keaton Batman did kill him. Second movie Burton gets more creative control of the movie. Batman is more of a killer in this movie than the first one. In this one he kills one Penguin goon with his Batmobile exhaust and another with a bomb in his chest. Batman smiles when it happens too. Also Peguin was a bit excessive. He did bite someone’s nose. Parents complained about this movie. This hurt the merchandise that was made with McDonald’s. That is why Burton was replaced as director with Joel Schumacher and we get Val Kilmer Batman with Bat-nipples on the suit. To be fair I like Batman Forever. I thought it was a pretty good movie and Chris is great as Robin Val and Chris have good chemistry. The villains were done well with the exception of Two-face. Tommy did a decent job but it was a bit over the top. I hear there are deleted scenes that would have added more to Val Kilmer as Batman and would have made the movie better. Many fans have demanded a Schumacher cut be made as of the movie. Sadly it never happened. Since Joel is dead now, it never will happen. I would like to see the extended cut of the Batman Forever movie. I am fine with the theatrical cut that was released.
@@autobotproductions1244 I only didn’t like that Snyder didn’t seem to read the whole Dark Knight Returns comic when making the movie. In the comic Batman breaks a rifle and says Guns are the weapons of cowards. There is a clear anti-gun message in the comic and Snyder ignores it in the movie his fans loved that.
I prefer Batman Returns' tone. Dark, sexual, politically incorrect, but still having fun with itself. And as for super-human shows that almost happened - The Secret World TV-Show. I also heard City of Heroes was in talks for a cartoon-show but NC-Soft canceled it, however I've seen no substantial evidence that that one was ever in any real talks.
Burton isn’t as strong as he used to be. Most of the movies he has made after invasion from Mars were terrible. You have busted some of them. They have the Burton style but the magic that made the great movies awesome wasn’t there. No one likes his remake of Planet of the Apes and his Wille Wonka movie is very divisive. Gene Wilder fans hate it, including myself. The only good movie he made recently was Big Eyes. The rest of his recent movies were either garbage or mediocre. The magic is gone.
@@JuanGomez-ke5py I chose not to watch it because I prefer the 90s Addams family with Christina Ricci as the character. I can’t see any other actress topping her performance. I didn’t like how the rest of the family looked either.
Good thing that, while Burton third Batman film didn't happened, some ideas were used recently in Batman 89 comic book, including Batman reuniting with Selina, the apperance of Robin (who in the book is new original character instead of Dick Grayson) and Harvey Dent becoming Two Face . In my opinion, that comic book is the official "third film of Burton trilogy"
And those ideas were from Sam Hamm's script for Batman 89 and his Batman 2 script.
I am immediately reminded of the fact that we nearly got a Schumacher Batman after & Robin wherein the series would've had Harley Quinn in movie form as the daughter of Jack Nicholsen's Joker vowing revenge and teaming up with Johnathan Crane.
Well, at least we have the Fanscription version of Batman Forever, so we do still technically have a third Burton Batman movie. That and Keaton’s back in The Flash, so there’s that.
Yes
And it's terrible. The Fanscription version of a Tim Burton Batman Forever was terrible. I like the actual version better, and we had the Batman 89 comic in hardcover, and it was based on unmade ideas that Sam Hamm had in the first two films.
@@srstriker6420 did you read the Batman 89 comic in hardcover? I know I did.
@Mark Guerrero and I would love to see Michael Keaton, Michelle Pfeiffer, Chris O'Donnell, and Alicia Silverstone returning for the Batman Beyond film, with archival footages of Jack Nicholson, Tommy Lee Jones, Jim Carrey, etc. And it'd be set after the events of Batman 89, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, and Batman & Robin.
@@evanzaremba4722let me guess, it’s because it’s a Channel Awesome video. It’s been 5 years since that controversy, and people moved on.
Mcdonald's pulling their sponsorship of Batman Returns always felt weird to me because I distinctly remember having two of the Happy Meal toys and one of their special edition drinking cups as a kid.
The toys were the Penguin car that had the umbrella up front that spun when you rolled the car across a flat surface. And the Batmobile that had the spring-loaded ejectable pod. To reference that part in the movie when Batman had to eject the pod to make it through a narrow gap.
And the cup I had had Catwoman on it. The lid of the cup could also be used as a miniature Frisbee as it was labeled as a throwable mini Bat-Disk.
So I don't know if it was only select McDonald's that canceled their promotion or if it was already underway for a bit and then had to recall all remaining toys and cups after the cancelation. Thus giving kids a small window of time to get ahold of a few toys and cups.
That backlash Batman Returns caused led to Tim Burton pass on the torch to his friend Joel Schumacher and help out hiring Lee and Janet Scott Batchler to write the screenplay for Batman Forever with Akiva Goldsman doing revisions, and Val Kilmer stepped into the role of Batman/Bruce Wayne. Thanks to Ben Wan (The Man Who Knows Too Much About Batman) and Andrew Bush on Superhero Stuff You Should Know for debunking rumors about a Burton Batman 3.
so really, this movie wasn’t made because most parents didn’t know how to parent
@@filmunion8194 no, because Burton's Batman 3 didn't exist.
Not to mention that infamous talk show where that little boy was “critiquing” on Batman returns in a laughable way
It would have been very interesting to see Tim Burton’s take on the 3rd Batman film but I think in hindsight, it ended up working out in the end, even though we did get that horrible Batman & Robin film, we did eventually get the phenomenal Dark Knight trilogy by Christopher Nolan.
Actually, it didn't exist. And I had no problems with Batman & Robin, because for me, B&R is my favorite Batman film. And yeah, I also loved Chris Nolan's Batman.
I like what we got. It would be super interesting to see what Tim Burton would have done, but I love Batman Forever, and even if I didn't, I think I'd love it's place in the history of the franchise.
4:53 This is NOT true whatsoever. There were only three scripts made for Batman Returns. Sam Hamm's, Daniel Waters, and finally Westley Strict. And none of them ever had Harvey become Two Face. Nor was he rewritten to be Max Shriek. Daniel Waters even denied this.
7:40 Dick Grayson in the script he was in for Daniel Waters's draft never had him wear the suit. In fact, he was only written to be a streetwise car mechanic with the letter R on his jumpsuit who repairs the Batmobile. And that's it. If there was a costume fitting, you'd think we would've seen the props by the designers by now?
As for why Robin Williams wasn't Riddler. Well it was actually for something back in the original movie. Jack Nicholson originally turned the Joker role down and the studio tried finding other other actors like Robin Williams but this was a public stunt to get Nicholson back. And this broke Williams's heart that he was bitter towards WB that he turned down the role of Riddler for what WB did to him. Even The Mask featurette brought that Robin Williams turned down the role.
So these urban legends MUST DIE!!!
Yeah. And it was Joel Schumacher who wanted Robin Williams to play The Riddler before it went to Jim Carrey.
I would have loved to have seen Burton's 3rd Batman movie, but at least DC gave us Batman '89 comicbook series continuing that Gothic vision.
I enjoy Batman Forever, and I'm more than willing to see the director's cut. It is darker and quite ambitious. There is a curiosity in what Burton's Batman 3 would've been like.
Actually, Tim Burton's Batman 3 never existed, according to Ben Wan (The Man Who Knows Too Much About Batman) and Andrew Bush on Superhero Stuff You Should Know.
Batman Forever never started out as a Tim Burton project. It was always Joel Schumacher's baby. According to their interview with Lee and Janet Scott Batchler, Tim Burton's only involvement with Batman Forever was to hire his friend Joel Schumacher as director and helping out hiring the Batchlers to write the screenplay, and that's why in the opening credits of Batman Forever, Burton was credited as producer.
Robin Williams would have been perfect for the Riddler like in One Hour Photo he was creepy and It’s funny that they’re both the last Williams Robin and Billy Dee and if we had Paul Williams then we would have the Trio Williams 😂
Do the original script for Superman 3 please
Original Superman 3? Was that the really weird one with Brainiac and a Supergirl who was definitely *not* Superman cousin?
There's also an interesting Superman 5 concept out there too, also with Brainiac.
Actually, Robin Williams would be the same over the top/flamboyant Riddler as was in the final film. When Jim Carrey was cast, it was a good thing that they did, and I'm okay with that.
@@doctorvanya Kevin Smith, Wesley Strick, and Dan Gilroy add Brainiac into their screenplays for Superman Lives, with Jason Lee, Gary Oldman, Jim Carrey, and Christopher Walken on the list to play him, but they couldn't do Superman Lives, because it's due to budgetary reasons.
@@doctorvanya yeah where it’s like a fairy tale with a superhero element to it but I guess why they change supergirl since Superman did gave the amnesia kiss and try to give him a equal especially since that they established Jor El’s brother in the first movie like they did with General Zod because I could give it a few changes like make it a Adam and Eve concept as they always keep making Superman a modern Jesus.
While I don't mind Batman Forever (and would rip a man's lungs out to see the original cut of it), I'd absolutely would have loved to have seen what Burton, then at the top of his game, would have done with it. Same with his Superman move (though I don't know how much I'd have *liked* the Superman one.)
I would of liked to of seen Tim's version of the 3rd film as I would of also liked to of seen his Superman Returns with Nicolas Cage. Imagine Cage and Keaton acting off one another, 2 similar quirky actors sharing the same screen.
I'd love to see you do one of these on Schumachers planned follow up to Batman and Robin Batman Triumphant
It was actually titled Batman Unchained. Writer Mark Protosevich had no idea of where the title Batman Triumphant even came from.
Billy Dee Williams voice to face in the Lego Batman film
I'm going to say it: as long as Marlon Wayans' Robin was like the character in the recent Batman '89 comic (which I doubt he would be, since Sam Hamm has had decades to rework that idea into how it turns out in the book), it would have been one of the best versions of Robin committed to film. At least it would have been better than either of the Shumacher ones. I might be alone in this, but it clicked with me. And we had a great Billy Dee Williams-based Two-Face, though clearly Richard Moll in the animated series was light years better.
I would have thought that Val Kilmer and George Clooney to be much more expensive actors than Keaton.
No one should ever replace directors such as Burton, Spielberg and Tarantino (maybe Cameron too?).
Your Batman Forever review was my first BBB video.
I just saw a reference to "continues" on caravan so thank you for fleshing this concept out
This 3rd tim Burton batman film was made into the batman '89 comic by the wrote the 1st. Which it had Billy dee Williams Harvey dent becoming two-face. Aldo a version of robin who was black
Legend of Fandom Idea - Don Bluth's Beauty and the Beast.
Can you do Lego Superfriends, the cancelled sequel to the Lego Batman Movie as well? We have yet to receive a leaked script but we had a pretty detailed production history and what it could’ve been about.
In the sequel the Justice League would have a more significant role and the plot would have featured Batman’s relation to the Justice League (particularly Superman) in the present day as well as flashing back to the past (taking inspiration from Godfather 2 and Boogie Nights) with the founding of the Justice League by Batman and Superman in their youth and the villains would’ve been Lex Luthor and OMAC.
The reason this movie was cancelled was because Warner Brothers letting go of the Lego movie rights and letting Universal take control of the Lego movie rights for a five year deal following Warner’s second Lego movie box office bomb with The Lego Movie 2 (after Lego Ninjago Movie)
for some future Legends of Fandom, maybe Amazing Spider-Man 3 or the third Tom Holland Spider-Man film if the deal with Marvel didn't get renewed
Actually, Batman Forever didn't start out as a Tim Burton project, it was always Joel Schumacher's baby, according to Ben Wan (The Man Who Knows Too Much About Batman) and Andrew Bush on Superhero Stuff You Should Know. According to their interview with Lee and Janet Scott Batchler, Tim Burton's only involvement with Batman Forever was to hire his friend Joel Schumacher as director and help out hiring Lee and Janet Scott Batchler as the screenwriters. That's why in the opening credits of Batman Forever, Tim Burton was credited as producer.
And it was Joel Schumacher who wanted Michael Keaton to come back as Batman/Bruce Wayne. Lee and Janet Scott Batchler wrote Batman with Michael Keaton in mind. His agency wanted $15 million and the piece of the gross and merchandising, but Keaton never liked the idea of Batman with a bigger role at the time. So he took a pass on it, and Val Kilmer stepped in to the role of Batman, and Kilmer, for me, delivered the best interpretation of the character.
It was also Joel who wanted to do Two-Face, and he already knew he wanted Academy Award winner Tommy Lee Jones, and that's already a done deal. After Tommy Lee Jones was cast as Two-Face, it was Lee and Janet Scott Batchler who wanted to do The Riddler, and it was also Joel who wanted Jones' fellow Oscar winner, stand-up comedian, Julliard graduate, and comics geek Robin Williams to play The Riddler. The Batchlers did a wonderful job capturing his voice, because Robin Williams was a stand-up guy. Williams read the script and he loved it. Due to a salary dispute, the role went to Jim Carrey.
And Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman was not in any draft of Batman Forever, because they wanted a Catwoman spin-off with Tim at the time, and the Batchlers created Dr. Chase Meridian as a love interest for Bruce Wayne/Batman. Joel originally cast Rene Russo as Chase when Joel wanted Michael Keaton to return. When Val Kilmer was cast as The Dark Knight, they recast Chase with Nicole Kidman.
And it was Joel and the Batchlers who wanted to bring in the character of Robin/Dick Grayson. Leonardo DiCaprio, Mark Wahlberg, Ewan McGregor, Jude Law, Alan Cumming, Toby Stephens, and Scott Speedsman were on the list to play The Teen Wonder, but then, the role went to Chris O'Donnell, which is a good thing.
Well I enjoyed both Joel Schumacher's batman forever despite for a few nitpicks and that I'm still waiting for the Schumacher cut of the film and the fanscription video of what if Tim Burton directed batman forever.
The fanscription for "what if Tim Burton directed batman forever?" Is out right now, along with the three part "what if Tim Burton directed batman and robin?"
@@jaredsamples6969 I know right
The Fanscription video of What If Tim Burton Directed Batman Forever? was out, and it's terrible.
@@jaredsamples6969 and they're terrible.
@@jswatch9270 and like I said, it's terrible.
If the script was different I think the movie would be interesting but I could see it beating avengers
I would have loved to see Tim direct Batman 3, but it’s unfortunate
very enjoyable video
If they made exactly like Tim Burton did I would have left it a whole lot better than that Joel Schumacher 1. I wonder what Batman and Robin would have been like if Tim Burton direct that one as well.
Well, Tim Burton did the third one, which he produces the third one when he pass on the torch to his friend Joel Schumacher to continue, and helping out hiring Lee and Janet Scott Batchler to write the screenplay for the third one.
Don’t drown my babies like this E-Rod
5 year old me was happy with Batman Forever and I'll leave it at that.
Sucks that it didn't happen
What about the planned 5th batman film, Batman Unchained/Unleashed?
Batman Forever is not great but its little forgiving then Batman and Robin. I do wonder sometimes what if Tim Burton did direct a 3rd Batman movie.
Please tell me that your doing an honest review of the Super Mario Bros Movie when it comes out on DVD.
Well if one good thing came out of this, you still have those McDonald's collectible Batman Forever drinking glasses.
Would have rather of had Burton direct. Should have kept him on for directing and had Schumacher direct Kevin smith Superman lives.
Erod can you please do an Honest Review on the Extreme Ghostbusters animated series?
Even though I would have liked to,see this movie. I am glad this didn’t happen because I don’t like Marlon Waynas as Robin. It has nothing to do with his race. First he is too old to be Robin. The biggest complaint about Chris O’Donnell was that he is too old. If it is ok for Marlon to be Grayson but not Chris is hypocritical. The second thing is Marlon is the least funny member of his family. I think all of the Waynas family members are funny. Even Shawn is funnier than Marlon. At the time McCauley Culkin or Leonardo Dicarpio would have been good choices for the character. Since Leo doesn’t like doing comic book movies. Culkin would have been better, especially with his Home Alone fame. He would have been great as the character. Chris was great as the character anyway even though he is an adult Robin.
Well, Tim Burton did cast Ricky Addison Reed of A Return To Salem's Lot as Robin/Dick Grayson for Batman 89, and he even approach Kiefer Sutherland of Dark City for the role before the character was cut. Then had almost had Marlon Wayans as the mechanic Robin, which is a terrible idea for Batman Returns, but the character was cut yet again. And when Tim Burton pass on the torch to his friend Joel Schumacher to continue with the franchise with Batman Forever, Chris O'Donnell got the role, and it's a good thing they did.
@@Superlad945 so Burton wanted the least funny and least talented from the Wayanas brothers instead because he is black and In Living Color is popular? No!! Cast an actor that looks like the character!! Marlon isn’t even funny. I am glad Keaton never got a Robin then of that is what Burton was going to do.
@@Superlad945 but back in the 80s most acrobats weren’t black unless the circus they worked for hired black acrobats.
@@Superlad945 that live action little Mermaid movie is crap. It is full of PC nonsense that makes Eric seem like the most bland character ever vs how he is in the animated movie. Screw Disney and Screw WB for not fully understanding DC characters all the time. I am sick of this political correct nonsense.
I would like to know why you find it ok when Keaton kills as Batman but when any other Batman actor does it that is wrong. He kills a few of Jokers goons in the church fight scene. The final fight against the Joker, the clown Prince eventually dies. Granted if he didn’t die he would have gotten away on his helicopter. So Keaton Batman did kill him. Second movie Burton gets more creative control of the movie. Batman is more of a killer in this movie than the first one. In this one he kills one Penguin goon with his Batmobile exhaust and another with a bomb in his chest. Batman smiles when it happens too. Also Peguin was a bit excessive. He did bite someone’s nose. Parents complained about this movie. This hurt the merchandise that was made with McDonald’s. That is why Burton was replaced as director with Joel Schumacher and we get Val Kilmer Batman with Bat-nipples on the suit. To be fair I like Batman Forever. I thought it was a pretty good movie and Chris is great as Robin Val and Chris have good chemistry. The villains were done well with the exception of Two-face. Tommy did a decent job but it was a bit over the top. I hear there are deleted scenes that would have added more to Val Kilmer as Batman and would have made the movie better. Many fans have demanded a Schumacher cut be made as of the movie. Sadly it never happened. Since Joel is dead now, it never will happen. I would like to see the extended cut of the Batman Forever movie. I am fine with the theatrical cut that was released.
He’s said before that he doesn’t like this Batman using lethal force
@@autobotproductions1244 I only didn’t like that Snyder didn’t seem to read the whole Dark Knight Returns comic when making the movie. In the comic Batman breaks a rifle and says Guns are the weapons of cowards. There is a clear anti-gun message in the comic and Snyder ignores it in the movie his fans loved that.
@@biguy617 makes you wonder if he read the entire comic
I know you're not a fan of Scooby-Doo, but I would like you to talk about the cancelled crossover movie: Scooby-Doo! and Krypto, Too!
I think it's available to watch online. It was leaked, if I recall correctly.
@@jeremyadler9620 Where ?
@@aidanhever3369, Not entirely sure where, but I KNOW it was leaked! I remember the news on Twitter. Hope you find it :)
@@jeremyadler9620 I just hope it's not a rumor.
If not canceled anymore
I’m of the opinion that Batman Forever is a decent if not good movie; just not a good *Batman* movie.
Jumanji is way better than Batman Forever.
I prefer Batman Returns' tone. Dark, sexual, politically incorrect, but still having fun with itself.
And as for super-human shows that almost happened - The Secret World TV-Show.
I also heard City of Heroes was in talks for a cartoon-show but NC-Soft canceled it, however I've seen no substantial evidence that that one was ever in any real talks.
Burton isn’t as strong as he used to be. Most of the movies he has made after invasion from Mars were terrible. You have busted some of them. They have the Burton style but the magic that made the great movies awesome wasn’t there. No one likes his remake of Planet of the Apes and his Wille Wonka movie is very divisive. Gene Wilder fans hate it, including myself. The only good movie he made recently was Big Eyes. The rest of his recent movies were either garbage or mediocre. The magic is gone.
How about Wednesday people love that
@@JuanGomez-ke5py I chose not to watch it because I prefer the 90s Addams family with Christina Ricci as the character. I can’t see any other actress topping her performance. I didn’t like how the rest of the family looked either.