I think India's Infrastructure reminds me some of the kind we have in the U.S. Specially Cities like Memphis, Trenton, Camden, Austin, Nashville, And Even Los Angeles however India's Cities look more Interesting Imo.
They're very much an example of good urban planning. They're somewhat overbuilt but that's because they overestimated their population and didn't account for the One Child Policy, but they're otherwise very well built.
@@heliothrax7716 Sorry in advance for the long comment. The most laudable thing Chinese cities have done is mass transit that was built quickly and at reasonable costs. Some of those networks are really impressive. Other than that? They built mega-highways through cities, long after it was already an outdated American concept of the 1960s. They pushed bikes away because it made places "look poor". They demolished urban villages that could have grown into valuable quiet residential or trendy entertainment areas, and replaced them with ugly soulless towers, and I have nothing against high rises as even high rises can have a sense of organic growth and personality if done right. They didn't overestimate their population, they knew exactly which way the population is going, they just became addicted to building as an easy money making scheme. "Very well built" would be salt on the wound of any person in China who worked hard and saved money for decades only to then invest it in a property with poor construction quality, which is sadly and shamefully a regular occurrence in China, where the construction industry suffers from widespread corruption and corner cutting. And now they have cities dressing up in meaningless LED displays and putting on elaborate light shows, trying to convince people that China is this super duper futuristic utopia when the reality is much bleaker. I found Tokyo to be much more pleasant to walk and cycle than Shanghai or Shenzhen (which are the places in China that I've seen the most of). For smaller places you have examples like the entire country of the Netherlands, the cities of Copenhagen, Montreal, Barcelona etc. But hey, I might have missed a few things. How are cities in China an example of good urban planning in your opinion? Except for the mass transit which I've already mentioned.
@@heliothrax7716 The only good thing I can think of is how they built so many mass transit networks, pretty quickly and at reasonable costs. Other than that? They built highways through cities even long after this American 1960s concept became outdated. They pushed away bikes because they made places "look poor". They demolished so many urban villages that could have become valued quiet residential or trendy entertaining areas, only to build high rise complexes with no soul or personality, and high rises can be done right, I'm not against them. They knew exactly where the population is going (down) but they kept building because they got addicted to it as a money making scheme. "Very well built" is an insult to any Chinese person who worked hard and saved only to then invest into a property with poor building quality, a common occurrence and a sad reality of a construction industry plagued by corruption and corner cutting. And now they have all these cities dressing up in meaningless LED displays and putting on elaborate light shows trying to convince people that China is this super duper futuristic utopia when the reality is much bleaker. I found walking and cycling in Tokyo to be much more pleasant than in Shanghai and Shenzhen (the two places in China I've spent the most time in). For smaller places I think good examples of urbanism are the entire country of the Netherlands, the cities of Copenhagen, Barcelona, Montreal etc. So what makes Chinese cities examples of good urbanism in your opinion?
@@heliothrax7716 the only good thing I can think of is the mass transit networks they built rather quick and at reasonable costs. Other than that? They built highways through the cities even long after this 1960s American concept became outdated. They pushed bikes out because they make places "look poor". They demolished so many urban villages that could have become valued quiet residential or trendy entertainment mixed use areas, they replaced them with high rises, and I'm not against high rises because they can be done right, but they just built ugly soulless towers everywhere. "Very well built" is an insult to every Chinese who worked hard and saved for years only to then invest into a property with poor building quality, a common occurrence and sad reality of a construction industry plagued by corruption and cutting corners. Now they have cities dressing up in meaningless LED displays putting on elaborate light shows trying to convince people that China is this super duper futuristic place when the reality is much bleaker. I found walking and cycling in Tokyo to be so much more pleasant than Shanghai or Shenzhen (places in China where I've spent the most time). For smaller cities there are so many good examples, like the entire country of the Netherlands, the cities of Copenhagen, Barcelona, Montreal etc. So what makes Chinese cities examples of good urbanism in your opinion?
@@heliothrax7716 the only good thing I can think of is the mass transit networks they built rather quick and at reasonable costs. Other than that? They built highways through the cities even long after this 1960s American concept became outdated. They pushed bikes out because they make places "look poor". They demolished so many urban villages that could have become valued quiet residential or trendy entertainment mixed use areas, they replaced them with high rises, and I'm not against high rises because they can be done right, but they just built ugly soulless towers everywhere. "Very well built" is an insult to every Chinese who worked hard and saved for years only to then invest into a property with poor building quality, a common occurrence and sad reality of a construction industry plagued by corruption and cutting corners. Now they have cities dressing up in meaningless LED displays putting on elaborate light shows trying to convince people that China is this super duper futuristic place when the reality is much bleaker. I found walking and cycling in Tokyo to be so much more pleasant than Shanghai or Shenzhen (places in China where I've spent the most time). For smaller cities there are so many good examples, like the entire country of the Netherlands, the cities of Copenhagen, Barcelona, Montreal etc. So what makes Chinese cities examples of good urbanism in your opinion?
Japan is same like India both have outdated but they used reform by the govt In case of India govt wasn't strong and so the pressure from the west made us backward But it's strong again it I'll be intresting to live in newly developed cites
It is not even a small town used in thumbnail Our cities aren't unplanned but outdated every city in india date easily 300 500 years but Chinese citizens are newly developed I would saay if we have drainage system it is more than enough let the people create the paradise one's again
Well it Depends on the City in China too though. Cities like Chongqing, And Nanjing has been around for a very long time which is even Older than Delhi or Mumbai.
I think India's Infrastructure reminds me some of the kind we have in the U.S. Specially Cities like Memphis, Trenton, Camden, Austin, Nashville, And Even Los Angeles however India's Cities look more Interesting Imo.
India obviously has a lot of work to do, but I wouldn't call Chinese cities a good example of urban planning.
They're very much an example of good urban planning. They're somewhat overbuilt but that's because they overestimated their population and didn't account for the One Child Policy, but they're otherwise very well built.
@@heliothrax7716 Sorry in advance for the long comment. The most laudable thing Chinese cities have done is mass transit that was built quickly and at reasonable costs. Some of those networks are really impressive.
Other than that?
They built mega-highways through cities, long after it was already an outdated American concept of the 1960s.
They pushed bikes away because it made places "look poor".
They demolished urban villages that could have grown into valuable quiet residential or trendy entertainment areas, and replaced them with ugly soulless towers, and I have nothing against high rises as even high rises can have a sense of organic growth and personality if done right.
They didn't overestimate their population, they knew exactly which way the population is going, they just became addicted to building as an easy money making scheme.
"Very well built" would be salt on the wound of any person in China who worked hard and saved money for decades only to then invest it in a property with poor construction quality, which is sadly and shamefully a regular occurrence in China, where the construction industry suffers from widespread corruption and corner cutting.
And now they have cities dressing up in meaningless LED displays and putting on elaborate light shows, trying to convince people that China is this super duper futuristic utopia when the reality is much bleaker.
I found Tokyo to be much more pleasant to walk and cycle than Shanghai or Shenzhen (which are the places in China that I've seen the most of). For smaller places you have examples like the entire country of the Netherlands, the cities of Copenhagen, Montreal, Barcelona etc.
But hey, I might have missed a few things. How are cities in China an example of good urban planning in your opinion? Except for the mass transit which I've already mentioned.
@@heliothrax7716 The only good thing I can think of is how they built so many mass transit networks, pretty quickly and at reasonable costs.
Other than that? They built highways through cities even long after this American 1960s concept became outdated. They pushed away bikes because they made places "look poor". They demolished so many urban villages that could have become valued quiet residential or trendy entertaining areas, only to build high rise complexes with no soul or personality, and high rises can be done right, I'm not against them. They knew exactly where the population is going (down) but they kept building because they got addicted to it as a money making scheme. "Very well built" is an insult to any Chinese person who worked hard and saved only to then invest into a property with poor building quality, a common occurrence and a sad reality of a construction industry plagued by corruption and corner cutting. And now they have all these cities dressing up in meaningless LED displays and putting on elaborate light shows trying to convince people that China is this super duper futuristic utopia when the reality is much bleaker.
I found walking and cycling in Tokyo to be much more pleasant than in Shanghai and Shenzhen (the two places in China I've spent the most time in). For smaller places I think good examples of urbanism are the entire country of the Netherlands, the cities of Copenhagen, Barcelona, Montreal etc.
So what makes Chinese cities examples of good urbanism in your opinion?
@@heliothrax7716 the only good thing I can think of is the mass transit networks they built rather quick and at reasonable costs.
Other than that? They built highways through the cities even long after this 1960s American concept became outdated. They pushed bikes out because they make places "look poor". They demolished so many urban villages that could have become valued quiet residential or trendy entertainment mixed use areas, they replaced them with high rises, and I'm not against high rises because they can be done right, but they just built ugly soulless towers everywhere. "Very well built" is an insult to every Chinese who worked hard and saved for years only to then invest into a property with poor building quality, a common occurrence and sad reality of a construction industry plagued by corruption and cutting corners. Now they have cities dressing up in meaningless LED displays putting on elaborate light shows trying to convince people that China is this super duper futuristic place when the reality is much bleaker.
I found walking and cycling in Tokyo to be so much more pleasant than Shanghai or Shenzhen (places in China where I've spent the most time). For smaller cities there are so many good examples, like the entire country of the Netherlands, the cities of Copenhagen, Barcelona, Montreal etc.
So what makes Chinese cities examples of good urbanism in your opinion?
@@heliothrax7716 the only good thing I can think of is the mass transit networks they built rather quick and at reasonable costs.
Other than that? They built highways through the cities even long after this 1960s American concept became outdated. They pushed bikes out because they make places "look poor". They demolished so many urban villages that could have become valued quiet residential or trendy entertainment mixed use areas, they replaced them with high rises, and I'm not against high rises because they can be done right, but they just built ugly soulless towers everywhere. "Very well built" is an insult to every Chinese who worked hard and saved for years only to then invest into a property with poor building quality, a common occurrence and sad reality of a construction industry plagued by corruption and cutting corners. Now they have cities dressing up in meaningless LED displays putting on elaborate light shows trying to convince people that China is this super duper futuristic place when the reality is much bleaker.
I found walking and cycling in Tokyo to be so much more pleasant than Shanghai or Shenzhen (places in China where I've spent the most time). For smaller cities there are so many good examples, like the entire country of the Netherlands, the cities of Copenhagen, Barcelona, Montreal etc.
So what makes Chinese cities examples of good urbanism in your opinion?
Emphasize sanitation and hygienic as major issue.every city become looks better.simple education.
The one you used in the thumbnail for china seems similar to shrinagar
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Yes our infra sucks 😭
Japan is same like India both have outdated but they used reform by the govt
In case of India govt wasn't strong and so the pressure from the west made us backward
But it's strong again it I'll be intresting to live in newly developed cites
Japan's Infrastructure looks much better! Anyways Interesting Comment though.
No education.
It is not even a small town used in thumbnail
Our cities aren't unplanned but outdated every city in india date easily 300 500 years but
Chinese citizens are newly developed
I would saay if we have drainage system it is more than enough let the people create the paradise one's again
All excuses. Just admit it, China is better than India
Well it Depends on the City in China too though. Cities like Chongqing, And Nanjing has been around for a very long time which is even Older than Delhi or Mumbai.