Does An Elevated Rest Work From A Tree Stand? ILF Recurve Hunting Bow Test!
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Were going to tackle the question of “can I use an elevated rest from a tree stand with my traditional bow?” First shot test with an ILF Recurve!
They shoot just fine from a tree stand. I've used Hoyt Super Rests on some bows since 1977. I have the NAP rest on a WARF bow, and it also works just fine from a tree stand. If anything, arrows will shoot smoother and with better consistency from an elevated rest.
Is that bow really that quiet? I can barely hear it
Not a sound!
I actually didn’t even hear it, or recognize I didn’t, until I read your comment
It was the first thing I recognized that has to be the quietest recurve I have ever heard and I own three myself and I have shot multiple.
I heard sanlida will be producing more of the hermit x10's. I'll be able to buy one next month. I got a financial blessing that will allow me to afford one. My only problem is going g to be figuring out how to set it up. It seems much more involved with an ILF bow compared to a standard recurve
Great to hear you're able to get one!! I struggled a small amount getting the limbs aligned, but... nothing that stopped me from adjusting the limb adjustment a few times and... bingo! The rest of the set up was pretty easy. I built up the striker plate THEN did limb alignment using a nocked arrow and set the limbs to 2mm left of centre shot. It's shooting lovely! I did watch a couple of UA-cam videos on ILF limb alignment, and basically came back to what Jeff said, centre the string with the holes in the riser where limb poundage lock screws are. Then I adjusted the limb alignment to 2mm left(right handed shooter) of arrow alignment with the string.
You'll love the Hermit X10!!
I assume you've already seen this video for ILF set up? This is the one I followed instructions for, and I did check other videos re: limb alignment(which way to adjust the screws, and remove grub/set screws before adjusting the inner adjustment screws). But this one from Jeff made it simple.
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I just received my beiter limb alignment modules and checked my limb alignment I did by eye, and I was out by 3mm!! I aligned them using the beiter clip guages and now my Hermit X10 is shooting even better than it was, and it was shooting nicely. Boy these Bows are great Bows!
@brettellis423 I know nothing about ilf bows. I'll look into that alignment tool you mentioned, so I'll have it on hand.
I'm so glad I got it! It's called a Beiter Limb alignment gauge. And it's the one that clips onto the limb near where we fit Bow quivers! (There are some Beiter gauges that fit on the limb tips, you DO NOT want those one's!)👍👍👍
I will be shooting my new NAP rest from my ILF bow for the 2nd time. It seems to draw easier which I like. I have a 🌳 with 2 footholds east of the house. I will have my saddle on & climbing up with my new climbing rope system. I have 4 3D deer targets so the double 🌳 setup will give me more angles to shoot @ for a more true test. I am really interested how the bare shafts shoot from above 🤔. 🎉😮
That’ll be a cool test!
Well 16 arrows later from a 🌳 with half of them being bare shafts went very well. Last year with my 19" ILF riser my arrow tune was very good but in a 🌳 my bare shaft was nock high. My Pandarus Icepoint arrows aren't finished yet but out of 2 dozen almost half are fletched & what I do know is that with my 25" riser with 44 lb. limbs that my bare shafts are a little bit too stiff. However I'm not accustomed to shooting out of a saddle with the 68" setup, especially on the closer targets. Some of my best shots were @ 19 yards with bare shafts w/o the steeper angle with the 13 to 15 yard targets. The NAP Flipper is very forgiving & all my bare shaft angles were equal to the fletched ones. That wasn't the case last year with an arrow shooting off a built up strike plate radius shelf which consistently shot tail high compared to the fletched ones. I'm SOLD on the Flipper & can't wait until I have more shots logged into the shot bank so I can start shooting the 19" riser which will take care of the slightly stiff shaft issue.😮😅🎉🎉.
@@josephtreadlightly5686 that’s what I’m hearing exactly! Tail high bare shafts are not an issue with the rest! Thanks for sharing the information!👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 You're welcome, it's all about getting better in the backyard. 😃
when I first started archery I had a compound bow and shot with a flipper rest off the shelf and shot with a glove split finger I have never had one problem with that set up other than the arrow wearing a grove in the plastic cover for the rest
Jeff,enjoy your videos and appreciate your knowledge. I'm not sure how to get in touch with you about a recommendation on some bows you reviewed
The NAP flipper never gave me any troubles when I used one. I did try other elevated rests(stick on) with a plunger that did give me troubles with my arrow coming off the rest. It had a metal arm(no plastic cover) with magnetic retainer. My draw wasn't smooth back then, but the NAP flipper never bumped the arrows off at all. I tried expensive rests and plungers and they didn't perform as great as the NAP flipper. I'm still shooting off the shelf though.
First up I would like to say a big thank you for your help I see what you mean u put on a couple of broadheads the difference in penetration was amazing waiting now for 200grain broad heads to arrive and arrows a spine of 500 just seen your new video about the dipper arrow rest that's what I use
I’m going back to the old flipper rest that I used 40 years ago yea and they work from tree stands Lol !
It’s funny my old Kmag actually had a rest on it when I got it years ago and I took it off and put the rug rest material on it 😁
Not sure why they wouldn’t work just fine from Treestand unless I’m missing something?
If using a stick-on rest on a one piece bow where the site window isn't cut so far past centre, would it be better to use one that doesn't have the plunger?
Thanks again so much for everything you do Jeff
I shot the flipper rest for 25 years on my compound. By far my favorite rest ever. Always thought about putting over of the stick on flippers on my recurve
Elevated rest are the way to go, especially on an ilf rig whether it's a springy or a flipper. Even on a wooden riser I prefer an elevated rest like a turkey feather rest.
Is it just me or is this the quietest bow ever shot? Barely a sound.
I have a Das dx5. The elevated rest is high.. I had to make a 1/4 positive tiller to quiet that bow 3 fingers under.
Hmm that’s very possible with a 15” riser, my DX5 was setup with longbow limbs and I shot it off the shelf but I’m sure tillering would definitely change moving up the string on a short riser 🤔
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I have a bolt top hole with a rubber bumper and Velcro. I have a bolt in the bottom hole and the head of the bolt is ground down to adjust so not to hit the riser. I put rubber tubing and Velcro over the threads for the arrow to sit on. This set up sits the arrow a little higher than my other bows therefore I needed a 1/4 positive tiller as my finger sit higher on the string...
Jeff maybe it’s the microphone placement - but that Sanlida is deathly quiet.
I was listening to you shooting it and never heard it loose. Only the impact.
I must get a HERMIT X10
Mine really is quiet and the good news is Sanlida notified me yesterday that they were stocking the shelves now so they have indeed brought them back in full production and are going to take orders for them again!www.sanlidaoutdoor.com/web/?invite=15192
Hi, just bought a PMZ Coral Snake Recurve bow! Would this be a good arrow rest ? Or should I stick with shooting off the shelf? New archery shooter !
I haven’t tried any of the stick on versions on wood bows yet but I’m very curious lol!
Does using an arrow rest with the raised nock height make shooting a bow that is tillered for split finger like the
sanlida royal X8 shoot better than the finger position of 3 under off the shelf?
Also, when you say that when shooting split finger the sanlida just shoots better than if you shoot 3 under, is there a difference in arrow speed?
Thanks for all the great videos Jeff!
Absolutely it’s like shooting it split, much quieter and just smoother 👍🏻
Awesome stand practice setup
This is off topic of the video. But just ordered the Sanlida 1 piece recurve. Had to order it thru there Amazon store. Should be here Monday. Don't tell Kaminski. Lol...
They are awesome shooters and will be selling long after all that mess fades away!
Got mine yesterday, beautiful bow. Accessories better quality than expected. Only complaint the string was 2 long. But after tying a knot on each side of the serving to get the brace height to 7.25. I usual shoot around 7.75-8. I won't get to shoot it till Thursday.
When you’re freezing your nuts off in a treestand I prefer shooting off the shelf.
One less thing to worry about the arrow falling off the rest. . Accuracy is the same up to 15 yards which is 90% of my shots here in the big woods and mountains of Pennsylvania.
Great video Jeff! Keep em coming!
What about a WB rest ?
Good to know
I love my elevated rests and have put them on pretty much all of my bows, Trad and target. I mainly use the plastic stick-on Hoyt or Bear brand.
I'm definitely gonna try the flipper rest on my setup With the two sided tape and see if I like this option better than shooting off the shelf...Im assuming it doesn't matter if it's an all wood bow it should still work just fine?Love all your videos jeff keep em coming..God bless
Back in the 70s and early 80s they were all the rage on round wheel compounds and stick bows. Never had any issues with them then so... not sure why someone would believe they would be a problem now. Great video - keep up the great work!
Jeff, is Sanlida still communicating with you? I can't get a response after 3 days of trying
Yes I actually was emailing back and forth Monday
Ok I was trying messenger. Thanks
So is there a practical reason that so many people like shooting off the shelf, or is shooting off the shelf just for the bragging rights?
Im assuming an elevated rest changes tiller a small amount?
Arent afraid of being called not trad ? Lol
It’s actually true that the purists do consider a metal riser recurve not traditional lol but hey I respect that and personally love all single string bows!
ATENTION PLEASE !!!!! Phil you did a video on Top Archery Carbon-Glass Limbs a few weeks ago, can't find it did you delete it ???
I did because they took some content from my channel without asking and created a video for their website and Amazon but they did apologize and took it down but yes the limbs are really good!
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 ok yes I did read about what they did, ok thanks very much for your return messeage Phil, enjoy all your videos. Dan
What about a split finger shooter.
Not a three under shooter
Should be fine, I haven’t tried it yet but that’s how a lot of guys shot vintage recurves 👍🏻
Hi Jeff, Would you tell me, for making bamboo laminations, when you use the moisture meter to check bamboo's moisture, what number is acceptable ?
Thank you very much.
Below 6 is good
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Thank you very much.