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I wish I could have seen Mary’s reaction when the crowd supportively yelled “Yea” when asked if she was the true heir to the kingdom. After everything she went through as a result of her father’s quest to delegitimize his marriage to her mother, I imagine she must have felt such validation and closure!
It wasn't a debacle, it was the King's wishes. If Katherine Parr had not persuaded Henry to put Mary and Elizabeth back in the line of succession, Jane Grey would have made a great Queen. What is more, Mary Tudor was not crowned on the Coronation Chair, holding the stone of scone. What other monarchs were not? You said 'nearly all'? Jane Grey went to her death showing great courage, reciting the 51st psalm. She doesn't deserve to be referred to so disrespectfully, she loved the Lord. Thank you.@@HistoryCalling
@@jackdoe4632 I think that Jane Grey might have been a decent queen if there was a precedent of ruling queens before her. but that a strong older woman was probably needed to secure the throne as the first queen regnant. Mary I had been educated to become a queen, at first a queen consort, but later a queen regnant. She was probably one of the best available choices to have taken the throne as the first ruling queen.
Elizabeth must have been present for the coronation and all of the ritual, and I can only wonder what it was like for her to be there to see her half-sister crowned queen, with all of her memories and feelings of her father and mother and brother, all dead, what she must have been thinking and feeling , witnessing close up a most spectacular and holy event, as the queens only immediate family member. I can’t imagine that she wasn’t overtaken by it herself. That she saw her sister, legitimately ascend the throne as her queen.
Her riding into London amid the cheers of the people was Mary’s finest moment. After all the crap she endured, it most have been glorious for her to feel support and love. Too bad it ended. Mary and her mother Catherine are among the most tragic figures in English history IMO
I've always wondered why she didn't have more influence on Prince/King Edward's religious upbringing. Who the heck made him a Protestant Nightmare. The Seymour's were Catholic/Anglican. WHAT HAPPENED?
I was literally thinking to myself today, “ I wonder what Mary’s coronation was like because I barely hear anything about it” and you heard my prayer… Thank you!!!
I have always been divided on Mary, on the one hand she ordered the deaths of hundreds of protestants, but on the other hand she suffered clear phycological abuse at the hands of her father and Anne Boleyn, and her brother as well. Her early years only seemed to have two constants in her life, her beloved mother and her faith, then her mother was viciously removed from her, and through all of her trauma her faith was her only comfort, so any attack on the Catholic faith would have felt like a very personal attack that she retaliated against with extreme brutality.
It certainly sounds pretty grand, the pageants, the coronation and the banquet. It must have cost a fortune to put it on. It must have been a real honour to attend any of it. I am looking forward to more Mary history, especially her wedding to Phillip. I would appreciate a realy close look at what her brute of a father did to her too. Thanks HC, another Friday treat!
You're correct in your pronunciation of Scone, if you're at the Abbey at Scone or in Scotland in general. Here we tend to call it The Stone of Destiny at Scone. Loving your work (from a Scot) xxx
I had no idea her coronation was so detailed and long. I thought she was so anxious to get the throne she didn’t go through all the long drawn out ceremonies. But after hearing you explain how each part was done, it does make sense for Mary’s character to have everything done in an exact certain way. Very interesting and informative video! I enjoyed it greatly.😊
Yes, I think she'll have wanted to make sure all the i's were dotted and t's crossed after her very bumpy journey to the throne. She won't have wanted to give any ammunition to anyone who might have said she wasn't the real Queen.
Yes, she does have a great story (well, I say great - she may well have wanted something different from her life, but she got off easy compared to the other wives).
I feel bad for Mary. Of course, what she did to so many innocent people to death, giving her, her namesake of, "Bloody Mary", was very wrong on her part as queen. But she was put through hell for so long. Being a beloved daughter by her father, the next saying she wasn't ligament, as well being feared of being poisoned, not seeing her mother, or allowed to go to her own mom's funeral. To me this made her more bitter, and obsessed with restoring England back to Catholicism, as well as providing the country with a male heir, what her father believed he didn't fully achieve. It's sad really. And another awesome video by you! 👑👑💗
Thanks Kristen. Yes, I think she had a lot of psychological damage courtesy of her father and that goes some way to explaining, though not excusing, her later actions.
Her coronation must’ve been spectacular. As you give a detailed description of the ceremony, it makes me feel I was there. I think she’s fascinating. I don’t mind hearing more of her. Thank you for this video. I really enjoyed it.
I find it tragic how the hopes were so high for her rule- she was loved by all- but the men (and women) in her life treated her so bad that she ended up making fateful mistakes. Granted- if taken into context and compared with other monarchs around Europe at the time, she was no different… But ultimately a tragic life and with tragic consequences
Thank you for this episode. My favorite "History Calling" is the one about Queen Victoria's coronation, where so many things went wrong, but she went on to become the 2nd greatest monarch in British History!
Superb, as always! I would have liked to see her in the parade/procession because I would love to have witnessed the crowd's reaction and opinions of her. My favorite aspect of history is how common people lived, not necessarily who was in power/control, so it would have been fascinating to witness their reactions.
That was a wonderful account of the elaborate ceremony. I would love to see the coronation itself, with the changing into and out of sumptuous robes glittering jewels. And seeing Princess Elizabeth and Anne of Cleves in attendance.
Thank you for making this. Ive wondered for a long time about Queen Mary I's coronation. I spent some time looking around for information and this really puts things into perspective.
Gday from Downunder I was lucky to refresh my feed at 29 seconds after you posted. The delay was so I could watch it! I really do love your scholarship and rigour in these videos. The Tudors just keep giving and giving. Don't they?
Gosh, you're up early if you're in Australia. Greetings from the past, as it's still Friday night here :-) Yes, I don't think we'll ever get tired of the Tudors.
Good work! No needless catholic vs. protestant pish; just facts. I approach the video with a scattering of knowledge, but still learned more. Thumbs-up for you knowing the facts, and not straying needlessly into sectarian territory. Finally, as a fellow regional Briton, keep your accent going down there!
It’s kind of hard to pick which part of her coronation/festivities I would be part of. I would find it all overwhelming in the first place! What it must feel like to have so many people celebrate you, like to be on stage and have so many fans! I would imagine it’s all surreal! Thank you for sharing! As always, I look forward to next week!
I know. I suppose there are very few people in the world who have experienced that level of celebration and adulation. When I hear musicians talking about it though, they always seem to say it's an incredible buzz.
Her reign/later years were no glorious or golden as her sister Elizabeth I, but after her abuses and mental trauma and torture her father put her through after he cast her and her mother aside, I am glad she had at least one day that seemed magical (her coronation) . It didn’t put anything to right or cancel the years of neglect and horrors she faced once labeled illegitimate, and having her mother taken away from her, but she wanted it so bad, and her mother to for her, when alive. I hope it brought some happiness if not peace, regardless of how short lasting it was.
Yes, I think I'd choose that too as we don't have coronation pageants anymore, so we can't just look up the 1953 pageant for instance as there wasn't one.
I wonder if the green angel with the horn was a clockwork automaton? They did exist in those days (public clocks with automata were a great source of entertainment for the ordinary people). I would love to know what happened to it after Mary's coronation.
THANK YOU STEPHEN for being so generous, as always. I'm glad you're enjoying the shorts, especially as I actually think the first ones aren't as good as the ones still to come.
Queens, princesses, mistresses, etc. - it was not easy being a woman who was part of Henry VIII's life. I was not aware of the "N*de Knights of the Bath" ritual until watching your video - very interesting...and I imagine, awkward. I love hearing about the clothing, decorations and pageantry of these events - I'm guessing even my imagination doesn't do them justice. Thank you once again for a very interesting video!
The coronation would have been a splendid spectacle to witness - the ceremony, the feasting etc. On a related issue, I have always wondered how St Edward's Chair evaded sale or destruction by Cromwell. Another informative video - many thanks again.
So many interesting details! More interesting than I expected- I only knew the basics of coronations, but there was stuff I wouldn't have imagined. I think I'd like the banquet, cos the food of that era is extremely different & interesting- I was in a Mediaeval recreation group, but ofc that's nothing like the real thing, & a coronation banquet would be the fanciest ever, like the displays & ceremonies too. It'd also be fun to see the guy throw down his gauntlet to challenge anyone opposing Mary.
Yes, the banquet would be awesome. I think we'd find the total lack of processed foods and almost total lack of sugar really weird, but it would be interesting for that very reason.
@@HistoryCalling What I find really weird is they didn't really have a sweet/savoury divide, like how xmas fruit mince pies used to have minced meat in them. The weirdest food I had was at a Middle Eastern feast: deep-fried breadcrumbed balls of pureed fish with a grape inside, & they were actually ok! There was a fair bit of sugar by later Tudor times, even the plebs could afford a bit (but I'm sure you know that), so nobles had to go SUPER-nuts to show off with it, like sugar subtleties- I wanna see one of those! Or a whole roast peacock!
Oh wow. Thank you, though I'm certain that lots of other things went into you getting well again too. I'm glad you're feeling better though and that I could help a little bit.
I'm sure there are some images of certain pageants. I just didn't come across any for this particular event unfortunately. I'd love to be able to see them too. They sound amazing.
I would have liked to be there when everyone declared she was the legitimate queen, if only to see her reaction. After everything she had been through, it had to have been a relief at the very least.
Hi, how are you? I'm doing well. Awesome live history video I enjoyed it can't wait to see more soon have a great day see you next video greetings from Canada 😀
There is a portrait of Queen Elizabeth I in her coronation robes. I previously read that Elizabeth re-used her sister's Queen Mary's coronation robes after having them altered to fit her. The reason Queen Elizabeth did this is because the treasury funds were very low, and Elizabeth was known to be of a thifty nature.
Hi HC, thanks for another well researched and beautifully presented video. Interesting to hear of all the pomp and ceremony that took place. I wonder though what the people were thinking as there must have been serious tensions and undercurrents with the ascension of a catholic Queen and the changes that would take place. On another note, well done for increasing the number of your followers. The numbers are increasing by around 1000 per week. A deserved reward for your efforts. 🎉
Thanks James. Yes, the Christina of Milan video helped a lot. You always get a good boost in followers when you have a hit. I had a single day where I picked up 982 last month which was pretty awesome.
@@thelisapisa Yes, whatever one thinks about Mary, she had established that a woman could be accepted as a monarch in England, easing the way for her sister. (Although she might not have cared to be thought of in that light!)
Just wanted to say another great video they NEVER fail to teach me something new ❤ Also just a heads up I had been unsubscribed from your channel for some reason !?!
Oh no! I wonder how/why that happened? I'm glad you're back anyway. I think sometimes UA-cam clears subscribers that they think are bots for some reason and maybe knocks out some real subscribers at the same time by accident, but I'm not sure.
18:51 To be fair, at this time Scotland was still independent and they were England's political rivals, in this context, it seems more like a middle finger to a political advisory rather than a show of dominance over a subregion or a sign of oppression over a culture. Besides, although it was probably used for previous monarchs as well, this might have held special significance for Mary and Elizabeth. Since both could be considered illegitimate, the Scottish king ot Queen could claim England as their own, so it could also have been a way of saying, "yeah, that's right! I'm sitting on the stone, not you. I'm the queen, not you." And finally, one of Mary's mother's crowning achievements was victory over the Scottish. I wonder if she thought about that while she sat on the stone?
Cool to see the Tudor monarchs depicted in more medieval manuscript art style (as opposed to their more iconic Renaissance paintings) 2:58 also I didn’t know Liz dressed like that even before she became queen
Love the video! Question: when monarchs are anointed with holy oil it is over their clothing or bare skin? I can see how it would not matter with kings but queens might be tricky?! Love all your videos!!
On bare skin, but I don't think female monarchs need to disrobe for it. It can just be put underneath the collar bone so their dresses don't even need to be particularly low cut.
I do't know if this would be worth a whole video but I'd be curious to know what offices or functions a queen regnant would have appointed a male proxy and how they have changed from Mary I to Elizabeth II.
Hmm, that is an interesting idea but I think it would take an enormous amount of research to create a video on it given the number of Queens regnant who would have to be checked and the lengths of several of their reigns. Obviously Mary II wouldn't have needed any proxies though, as she had a male co-monarch.
I wonder what this would have been like if they had had TV and the internet? Oh wait... I guess we're gonna find out. I plan to have all electronics turned off that day, ensconced in my den, reading a good book. The two minute highlighted version the next day will suffice for me. Although, if you told me that Chucky was going to use a couple of humans as a foot-stool, I would tune in for that.
@@HistoryCalling In reality, I don't think the next but one coronation will be decades away. CR III is no spring chicken. I may even get see a Billy V on the chair in my lifetime, age & health permitting 😏
Great video and good narrative. If I may ask please do make a bit clear your sintaxe (and the pronunciation a bit higher) because even lthough I understood everything you said neverthless it was a litlle bit dificult for me to caght all words properly, You see, I love the english language but not being english I have sometimes dificulty to cacht all the phrases as they are spoken. As to what I would like you talking about, is for example just how was Mary sentenced to death and although her sister Elizabeth was not willing to accept that horrible sentence she had to obey (so to speak) since she had no power to reject it - it seems that's how it did happen then, so I read many years ago. Thank you for the brilliant video
On my pronunciation, I suspect the issue is my accent which would be more difficult for you if English is not your first language. Try turning on the closed captions as these are created from my script and will match what I'm saying. I'm afraid I don't understand your question about Mary as she was never sentenced to death.
@@HistoryCalling Thank you very much for your response. As to Queen Mary (the one that was so just for a short period), wasn't she the famous "Bloody Mary" as she was 'baptised' by the people after which she became known as such forever in all History Books? I really thought so.
@@mariagenovesa3772 I believe that the queen you're thinking of who was sentenced to death was Mary Queen of Scots, almost thirty-five years after this coronation. She was a cousin of Mary I and Elizabeth (Mary Queen of Scots was the granddaughter of Henry VIII's sister Margaret, who had married James IV of Scotland). Elizabeth had Mary Queen of Scots held prisoner in England, where she had fled after her forced abdication from the throne of Scotland, and Elizabeth signed the warrant for Mary's execution, which took place in 1587. James I and VI, who succeeded to the English throne (he was already the king of Scotland) at Elizabeth's death in 1603, was the only (living) son of Mary Queen of Scots.
The procession from the Tower to Westminster is the most different part of her coronation from the modern counterparts. It must have been really fantastic to see in the 16th century.
It baffles me there’s never been a Biopic about Mary ascending to the throne and her descent into madness and paranoia. She was the first English Queen to be crowned in her own right and it was certainly an uphill battle all her life to get there.
British Library. It's small and only up for about 5 seconds, but I have a little acknowledgement on screen in the lower left corner when the picture appears.
I think Henry's mistreatment of her resulted in her being a very damaged person when she came to the throne. Someone who was paranoid and sought revenge notably on Cranmer who had supported divorce of her mother from Henry. Remember also she had faced possible execution under her fatber Henry VIII and Edward VI.
Depends which part of the country you're in, but if you're in Belfast then I would recommend the Titanic experience, the Ulster Museum and the City SightSeeing Tours on the red buses. If you're up the North Antrim coast, then the Giants' Causeway, Dunluce Castle and the Carrick-a-Rede rope bridge are well worth a visit. If you're in the west, the walls of Derry/Londonderry are good and there are some good National Trust properties in that general area too. Have a wonderful visit. Let me know how you get on.
@@HistoryCalling thanks for all of those ideas. Some were already on my list, but most were not. I also found out that they do falconry outings and the marble arch cave seemed nice. I will let you know how things go when i am out that way.
From a religious perspective one of the most important ceremonies during a coronation is the anointing of the Monarch with holy oil called Holy Chrism. This oil can only be blessed by a bishop once a year. I read that Mary refused to be anointed with the Holy Chrism which was kept in the Abbey because it had been blessed by a schismatic protestant bishop. In order to ensure the validity of this rite, Mary requested from France Holy Chrism blessed by Catholic bishops with which she was anointed.
@@HistoryCalling Yes, unfortunately I read about this several years ago , but I am unable to find the source. From what I remember, Mary was concerned that being anointed with Holy Chrism from the Abbey would sacramentally associate her with the schism and the clergy who promoted it. She feared that the coronation rite would be rejected by Catholics as invalid.
It's interesting to hear that the challenge on horseback (inside!) was a normal part of the coronation process, otherwise I would have assumed that it was done for Mary specifically because of her gender. It's a great inducement to get a bunch of crusty men to behave 🤪
I wish I could've witnessed the long pageants on the streets as she processed through London the day before the coronation! Question: I imagine that the coronation was composed of religious and state or ceremonial parts and if so, were the religious ones performed from Protestant or Catholic bishops and what was Mary's thoughts as this was being planned?
I find that I’m of two minds when it comes to Mary Tudor. The emotional abuse that she suffered, along with her mother, by Henry VIII (and after her mother’s death) was unconscionable. (May he rot in the lowest rung of hell for the misery he caused to thousands of innocent people!) The situation when her brother, Mr Uber Protestant himself, was likewise fraught with danger. Then when she was eventually crowned queen and finally got married her beloved husband didn’t love her in return, and because she wanted children so badly she suffered two phantom pregnancies and the terrible embarrassment she felt afterwards. Nobody should ever have to go through that much trauma in their life! On the other hand, Mary was positive that she was right and no one could gainsay her. Her stubbornness and belief that she was ALWAYS right and ALWAYS directed by God undid most of the good that she had done during her reign to the point that when she died most people were relieved and happy to move on to Elizabeth. What a tragic life!
Well. I confess I did not know that The Order of Bath was so literal. !! I assumed it was a ceremony in the city of Bath. Perhaps I should have guessed as I know Royal weddings needed a gang of on-lookers on to view the consummation of the marriage. Visibility at the extreme . It has always surprised me that Lady Grey ( poor girl) was not more supported in a country that seems to have become rabid anti Catholic in just a few decades of "Protestant " reform. I concede Mary had supporters and many citizens were probably closet Catholics .. still..? This is probably more from my negative view on the compassion and understanding of religions, however . MMM... I think the actual crowing would be most interesting.. Hanging around for the party might be fun... but I think I would be anxiously waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Yup, you gotta get in the bath to be a Knight of one :-) In the case of Jane Grey, I think by this point people were very much wedded to the idea of having a Tudor on the throne and I imagine a lot of them saw Mary as perfectly legitimate. We have to remember too that she was actually very popular in England in her youth and continued to be so until her reign went off the rails. Her mother had also been much loved so I think she gained even more popularity from that.
@@HistoryCalling Many interesting stories from that one, last banquet, spectators storming for leftovers, the knight had a number of horse issues, AND boxers hired as bouncers West Minster doors to keep Queen Caroline out. 😄
Forgive me for sounding disagreeing, but weren’t there a few Anglo-Saxon queens? Though admittedly not a queen of England, certainly a queen? It’s heart breaking what Mary went through, and how she’s still the ‘bad guy’ for remaining Catholic, same as James the Second,
Yes, you're quite right. I perhaps should have clarified that I was speaking of the post-conquest era. I also don't know if the Anglo-Saxon queens were crowned or not as I don't know much about them.
@@HistoryCalling Apologies. It should probably have been obvious really. Honestly, I’m not sure. They’re in that weird and wacky historical land pre-conquest, where historians seem to go ‘ah yes. People.’
There were no queens regnant prior to the Norman conquest. England came into existence in 927 so there were numerous queens consort of England prior to 1066. The first to be given the title of queen was Aelfthryth who was anointed and crowned in 973. Other subsequent queens held the title but were not anointed or crowned. The custom of crowning the queen consort was reinstituted in 1068 when William I's wife, Matilda, was crowned.
I think I might not understand the meaning of the word pageant at least in the historical context I'm getting the sense that the modern meaning is not accurate for the setting so the question is what would constitute a pageant during this time.?
Yeah, it's not like the modern-day beauty pageants that we might think of. It's closer to an 16th century street party, though pageants could be held on water too. If you look up the water pageant for Elizabeth II's Golden Jubilee in 2012, that'll give you an idea of what they can look like. On land it was a bit like a big parade. The St Patrick's Day celebrations in places like New York, or the gay pride parades that are often held today would be a modern equivalent I think, at least in terms of the atmosphere and scope of the whole thing.
Completely random question: Is there any evidence that a young Elizabeth ever met her stepmother Jane Seymour, or her half-brother Henry FitzRoy? She was away from court after her mother’s fall and Jane’s tenure , but Henry was regularly at court during Anne’s tenure, so it’s possible.
She definitely met Jane Seymour as I *think* she was at court for the Christmas festivities in 1536 (if it wasn't Christmas, it was for some other occasion). She was also at Edward's Christening which was just before Jane's death, so she might just have seen her then too. I don't know about Fitzroy though.
How unnerving to play host to the child whose mother died partly because of you! There must have been some awkward faces there. As for FitzRoy, I expect there is a good chance he and Elizabeth must have met for some official occasion, perhaps for his marriage to Mary Howard or just a visit from his father. As Henry’s only son, he must have been relieved to hear Elizabeth was a girl!
@@HistoryCalling Fitzroy died very shortly after Anne Boleyn was executed, when I think Elizabeth was only two. I'm sure they must literally have met, but I suppose it is unlikely that she remembered him very well, if at all.
By the way would you ever make a video on what kind of offer Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard could have gotten or any agreements from Henry the 8 if they had got a divorce from Henry the 8 or would they have just been sent to live in the country side in your opinion
Oh I'm afraid I don't think there was ever going to be any kind of offer on the table for either of those women. If there had been I believe they would have taken it. Both marriages were annulled anyway, without their consent. They had no bargaining tools.
A question, were the clerics (priests, bishops, etc.) those that were in hiding or exile during Edward's reign? Or did the protestant clerics throw off the Book of Common Prayer and restore Latin rites? Even the liturgical music would have to be changed from English back to Latin. I suspect behind the scenes that her coronation caused significant ecclesial disturbance.
Hmm, that's a tricky one. We could say Mary because that marriage was quite a lot of hassle and didn't produce any children, or we could pick one of the other three on the basis that he probably felt more for them and was more pained at their loss.
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What I wish I could see is any interaction of any kind between the Princess Mary and her first stepmother, Anne Boleyn. Imagine the body language.
I'd like to have seen her preparing that morning at the Tower.
I would like to see her walk up the twenty steps,the next set of stairs and her being lead around and the crowd yelling yea!
I wish I could have seen Mary’s reaction when the crowd supportively yelled “Yea” when asked if she was the true heir to the kingdom. After everything she went through as a result of her father’s quest to delegitimize his marriage to her mother, I imagine she must have felt such validation and closure!
Yes, I think so too, especially after the whole Lady Jane Grey debacle.
Sort of makes the rest so much sadder. Everyone was really probably hoping this was gonna be the thing that turns things around
It wasn't a debacle, it was the King's wishes. If Katherine Parr had not persuaded Henry to put Mary and Elizabeth back in the line of succession, Jane Grey would have made a great Queen. What is more, Mary Tudor was not crowned on the Coronation Chair, holding the stone of scone. What other monarchs were not? You said 'nearly all'? Jane Grey went to her death showing great courage, reciting the 51st psalm. She doesn't deserve to be referred to so disrespectfully, she loved the Lord. Thank you.@@HistoryCalling
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I think that Jane Grey might have been a decent queen if there was a precedent of ruling queens before her. but that a strong older woman was probably needed to secure the throne as the first queen regnant.
Mary I had been educated to become a queen, at first a queen consort, but later a queen regnant. She was probably one of the best available choices to have taken the throne as the first ruling queen.
Utter nonsense. As her reign proved.@@graceneilitz7661
A 465 year old royal story that seemingly never gets old 🤓
Yup, that pretty much sums up the Tudors for ya 😅
You're so right
@@MrAdryan1603 1st time for everything 🤣
I dare say they wouldn’t have shouted that if they’d known how her reign was going to turn out.
Elizabeth must have been present for the coronation and all of the ritual, and I can only wonder what it was like for her to be there to see her half-sister crowned queen, with all of her memories and feelings of her father and mother and brother, all dead, what she must have been thinking and feeling , witnessing close up a most spectacular and holy event, as the queens only immediate family member. I can’t imagine that she wasn’t overtaken by it herself. That she saw her sister, legitimately ascend the throne as her queen.
Her riding into London amid the cheers of the people was Mary’s finest moment. After all the crap she endured, it most have been glorious for her to feel support and love. Too bad it ended. Mary and her mother Catherine are among the most tragic figures in English history IMO
Yes, I'm sure she felt on top of the world at that point. If only things had gone better afterwards.
She ruined her own reign by her extreme cruelty, by the end of her reign, even her Roman Catholic subjects were delighted to see it was over
@@laurielovett8849 Don’t worry, subsequent Protestant rulers gave it back to the English Catholics
@@laurielovett8849 that’s a lie. You must be American.
I've always wondered why she didn't have more influence on Prince/King Edward's religious upbringing.
Who the heck made him a Protestant Nightmare. The Seymour's were Catholic/Anglican.
WHAT HAPPENED?
I was literally thinking to myself today, “ I wonder what Mary’s coronation was like because I barely hear anything about it” and you heard my prayer… Thank you!!!
Great minds think alike :-)
I have always been divided on Mary, on the one hand she ordered the deaths of hundreds of protestants, but on the other hand she suffered clear phycological abuse at the hands of her father and Anne Boleyn, and her brother as well. Her early years only seemed to have two constants in her life, her beloved mother and her faith, then her mother was viciously removed from her, and through all of her trauma her faith was her only comfort, so any attack on the Catholic faith would have felt like a very personal attack that she retaliated against with extreme brutality.
It certainly sounds pretty grand, the pageants, the coronation and the banquet. It must have cost a fortune to put it on. It must have been a real honour to attend any of it. I am looking forward to more Mary history, especially her wedding to Phillip. I would appreciate a realy close look at what her brute of a father did to her too. Thanks HC, another Friday treat!
You're welcome. On how her father treated her, see my video the life of Mary I part 1 (and maybe part 2 as well actually, I can't quite remember).
You're correct in your pronunciation of Scone, if you're at the Abbey at Scone or in Scotland in general. Here we tend to call it The Stone of Destiny at Scone. Loving your work (from a Scot) xxx
I am a proud protestant I was baptised this last Sunday at St John’s church in Lancashire ❤️✝️🙏
I had no idea her coronation was so detailed and long. I thought she was so anxious to get the throne she didn’t go through all the long drawn out ceremonies. But after hearing you explain how each part was done, it does make sense for Mary’s character to have everything done in an exact certain way. Very interesting and informative video! I enjoyed it greatly.😊
Yes, I think she'll have wanted to make sure all the i's were dotted and t's crossed after her very bumpy journey to the throne. She won't have wanted to give any ammunition to anyone who might have said she wasn't the real Queen.
She's an aside in this story but I really like Anne of Cleves the more I hear about her. She was pretty savvy.
Yes, she does have a great story (well, I say great - she may well have wanted something different from her life, but she got off easy compared to the other wives).
Wonderful presentation.
I feel bad for Mary. Of course, what she did to so many innocent people to death, giving her, her namesake of, "Bloody Mary", was very wrong on her part as queen. But she was put through hell for so long. Being a beloved daughter by her father, the next saying she wasn't ligament, as well being feared of being poisoned, not seeing her mother, or allowed to go to her own mom's funeral. To me this made her more bitter, and obsessed with restoring England back to Catholicism, as well as providing the country with a male heir, what her father believed he didn't fully achieve. It's sad really. And another awesome video by you! 👑👑💗
Thanks Kristen. Yes, I think she had a lot of psychological damage courtesy of her father and that goes some way to explaining, though not excusing, her later actions.
@@HistoryCalling you're very welcome
“Parked her behind on it.” Lol so perfectly described. Thank you for all the great videos. I have learned so much.
You're very welcome. I learn from putting them together too, so it's win win.
Not see the most but hear the most, that glorious Tudor church music!
Excellent answer. No one else that I've seen has said that but you're right, it will have been amazing.
Her coronation must’ve been spectacular. As you give a detailed description of the ceremony, it makes me feel I was there. I think she’s fascinating. I don’t mind hearing more of her. Thank you for this video. I really enjoyed it.
Thanks Leticia. I wish I was able to make a short visit to Tudor London and see it too.
I find it tragic how the hopes were so high for her rule- she was loved by all- but the men (and women) in her life treated her so bad that she ended up making fateful mistakes. Granted- if taken into context and compared with other monarchs around Europe at the time, she was no different… But ultimately a tragic life and with tragic consequences
To be fair, Philip didn't want to marry her; he was forced by his daddy to marry her.
I know. She fought so hard and so long to get to the throne and then it just all went sideways.
@@savagedarksider7259 That’s how most marriages in the Middle Ages worked. They were arranged for politics, not personal preference / love.
@@graceneilitz7661 I know, I just wanna to point it out.
Thank you for this episode. My favorite "History Calling" is the one about Queen Victoria's coronation, where so many things went wrong, but she went on to become the 2nd greatest monarch in British History!
Thank you! I loved that video too, but it did rather disappointingly. People seem to gravitate more towards misery than the lighter side of history.
Oh this sounds like a good watch will check it out. Thanks!
@@HistoryCalling Yes it seems to be human nature, but I liked the QV coronation video
i’m not sure i could pick a favorite part, it was all too fabulous. i just love her story! amazing vid HC!
I'm going for the pageants myself, just because we don't have them anymore.
@@HistoryCalling excellent point! i will be in attendance!
Superb, as always! I would have liked to see her in the parade/procession because I would love to have witnessed the crowd's reaction and opinions of her. My favorite aspect of history is how common people lived, not necessarily who was in power/control, so it would have been fascinating to witness their reactions.
Yes that would be interesting
Yes, the parade and pageant are what I would choose too as we don't have anything quite like them nowadays.
What I wish is that I could make up a trio with Elizabeth and Anne and experience everything from their viewpoint.
Yes, I wonder what they chatted about with each other and how good Anne's English was by that point?
You know I really really admire Anne of Cleaves.
I mean she completely won in the end
She did. I think she was the overall luckiest out of all the wives.
@@HistoryCalling she managed to win an unwinnable situation.
That was a wonderful account of the elaborate ceremony. I would love to see the coronation itself, with the changing into and out of sumptuous robes glittering jewels. And seeing Princess Elizabeth and Anne of Cleves in attendance.
Thanks Ann. Yes, I think the whole thing would be a wonder to see and quite unlike (in many respects) more modern coronations.
Your pictures/videos are wonderful.
Thanks Betsey :-)
Thank you for making this. Ive wondered for a long time about Queen Mary I's coronation. I spent some time looking around for information and this really puts things into perspective.
You're welcome. It was certainly quite a day :-)
So much detail and info. Had to view it twice.
This is amazing! No matter how much I read about Queen Mary I. I could never find details about her coronation! Thank you!
You're welcome. Yes, I suppose it would take up a whole chapter in a book, so it just gets glossed over.
you really brought it to life, I applaud your research
and thank goodness it's a cheerful topic
Thanks Caroline. Yes, most of the time when discussing Mary I it's a bit depressing, but this was one of her good days.
Gday from Downunder
I was lucky to refresh my feed at 29 seconds after you posted. The delay was so I could watch it!
I really do love your scholarship and rigour in these videos.
The Tudors just keep giving and giving. Don't they?
Gosh, you're up early if you're in Australia. Greetings from the past, as it's still Friday night here :-) Yes, I don't think we'll ever get tired of the Tudors.
Good work! No needless catholic vs. protestant pish; just facts. I approach the video with a scattering of knowledge, but still learned more. Thumbs-up for you knowing the facts, and not straying needlessly into sectarian territory. Finally, as a fellow regional Briton, keep your accent going down there!
It’s kind of hard to pick which part of her coronation/festivities I would be part of. I would find it all overwhelming in the first place! What it must feel like to have so many people celebrate you, like to be on stage and have so many fans! I would imagine it’s all surreal! Thank you for sharing! As always, I look forward to next week!
I know. I suppose there are very few people in the world who have experienced that level of celebration and adulation. When I hear musicians talking about it though, they always seem to say it's an incredible buzz.
Her reign/later years were no glorious or golden as her sister Elizabeth I, but after her abuses and mental trauma and torture her father put her through after he cast her and her mother aside, I am glad she had at least one day that seemed magical (her coronation) . It didn’t put anything to right or cancel the years of neglect and horrors she faced once labeled illegitimate, and having her mother taken away from her, but she wanted it so bad, and her mother to for her, when alive. I hope it brought some happiness if not peace, regardless of how short lasting it was.
Yes, I'm glad the little girl who was so abused by Henry got her day as well. I only wish things had gone better as her reign progressed.
I would love to see the pageants and specifically the green angel with the horn. It would be amazing to be in the crowds and feel their energy.
Yes, I think I'd choose that too as we don't have coronation pageants anymore, so we can't just look up the 1953 pageant for instance as there wasn't one.
I wonder if the green angel with the horn was a clockwork automaton? They did exist in those days (public clocks with automata were a great source of entertainment for the ordinary people). I would love to know what happened to it after Mary's coronation.
I just love your channel.
Thank you very much :-)
Thanks, HC! Even better on repeat viewing. BTW, I'm loving the shorts. 👏
THANK YOU STEPHEN for being so generous, as always. I'm glad you're enjoying the shorts, especially as I actually think the first ones aren't as good as the ones still to come.
Queens, princesses, mistresses, etc. - it was not easy being a woman who was part of Henry VIII's life. I was not aware of the "N*de Knights of the Bath" ritual until watching your video - very interesting...and I imagine, awkward. I love hearing about the clothing, decorations and pageantry of these events - I'm guessing even my imagination doesn't do them justice. Thank you once again for a very interesting video!
Yes, I don't think I can imagine what they were like either. I'd love to be able to see the pageants in particular.
Awwwwww, I just loooove everything you upload!!! Xoxo!!
Thanks Holly :-)
@@HistoryCalling you are soooooooo very welcome!!! I just love your channel!!!
The coronation would have been a splendid spectacle to witness - the ceremony, the feasting etc. On a related issue, I have always wondered how St Edward's Chair evaded sale or destruction by Cromwell. Another informative video - many thanks again.
Yes, it's a shame cameras weren't invented earlier. I'd love to be able to see it too. I'm not sure about the chair I'm afraid.
Who else does that little foot tap to the intro music 🧏🏻♀️
Love this channel, thank you History Calling for your brilliant content 👏 x
I've been known to hum to it while I'm editing the videos together :-)
@@HistoryCalling very catchy 😉x
@@Dee-B82
Haha !! I always wave my hand like a Maestro. Very catchy indeed.
@@nancyM1313 class 😊x
So many interesting details! More interesting than I expected- I only knew the basics of coronations, but there was stuff I wouldn't have imagined. I think I'd like the banquet, cos the food of that era is extremely different & interesting- I was in a Mediaeval recreation group, but ofc that's nothing like the real thing, & a coronation banquet would be the fanciest ever, like the displays & ceremonies too. It'd also be fun to see the guy throw down his gauntlet to challenge anyone opposing Mary.
Yes, the banquet would be awesome. I think we'd find the total lack of processed foods and almost total lack of sugar really weird, but it would be interesting for that very reason.
@@HistoryCalling What I find really weird is they didn't really have a sweet/savoury divide, like how xmas fruit mince pies used to have minced meat in them. The weirdest food I had was at a Middle Eastern feast: deep-fried breadcrumbed balls of pureed fish with a grape inside, & they were actually ok! There was a fair bit of sugar by later Tudor times, even the plebs could afford a bit (but I'm sure you know that), so nobles had to go SUPER-nuts to show off with it, like sugar subtleties- I wanna see one of those! Or a whole roast peacock!
Very good! I am sure that it was all a great spectacle!😮
I think so too. If only photography had been invented :-(
Your channel cured my depression. Keep up the amazing work! :D
Oh wow. Thank you, though I'm certain that lots of other things went into you getting well again too. I'm glad you're feeling better though and that I could help a little bit.
the pagents sound really something I so wish there was some imagery available of it!
I'm sure there are some images of certain pageants. I just didn't come across any for this particular event unfortunately. I'd love to be able to see them too. They sound amazing.
I found this video by chance and really enjoyed it and learned a lot. Thank you. Subscribed!
Thanks Tima and welcome aboard :-)
I would have liked to be there when everyone declared she was the legitimate queen, if only to see her reaction. After everything she had been through, it had to have been a relief at the very least.
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Hi, how are you? I'm doing well. Awesome live history video I enjoyed it can't wait to see more soon have a great day see you next video greetings from Canada 😀
Have to apologise. I was pressing the like button & my finger slipped. I enjoy all your videos 😁
Haha, that's ok. I've been known to do that myself :-)
I wish we could see accurate drawings of all the crowns used and also of Mary's attire.
There is a portrait of Queen Elizabeth I in her coronation robes. I previously read that Elizabeth re-used her sister's Queen Mary's coronation robes after having them altered to fit her. The reason Queen Elizabeth did this is because the treasury funds were very low, and Elizabeth was known to be of a thifty nature.
I would love to know if there’s a video about the relationship between Mary and Elizabeth. Thank you for the beautiful history lesson.
If you look at my videos on Mary and Elizabeth's lives (in my Tudor Monarchs' series), I cover a lot of their interactions with each other there.
Hi HC, thanks for another well researched and beautifully presented video. Interesting to hear of all the pomp and ceremony that took place.
I wonder though what the people were thinking as there must have been serious tensions and undercurrents with the ascension of a catholic Queen and the changes that would take place.
On another note, well done for increasing the number of your followers. The numbers are increasing by around 1000 per week. A deserved reward for your efforts. 🎉
Thanks James. Yes, the Christina of Milan video helped a lot. You always get a good boost in followers when you have a hit. I had a single day where I picked up 982 last month which was pretty awesome.
The Mass abolished under Edward was restored and was part of Mary’s Coronation
Thanks for recommending books! I'm reading Whitelock now.
Mary Tudor, my favourite English monarch and most certainly the greatest of the Tudors!
An unusual viewpoint there, but each to their own 😀
Couldn't agree more! She walked so Liz could run
@@thelisapisa Yes, whatever one thinks about Mary, she had established that a woman could be accepted as a monarch in England, easing the way for her sister. (Although she might not have cared to be thought of in that light!)
Just wanted to say another great video they NEVER fail to teach me something new ❤
Also just a heads up I had been unsubscribed from your channel for some reason !?!
Oh no! I wonder how/why that happened? I'm glad you're back anyway. I think sometimes UA-cam clears subscribers that they think are bots for some reason and maybe knocks out some real subscribers at the same time by accident, but I'm not sure.
I am glad that I subscribe to this channel. Always interesting stuff and new things to discover. Keep up the good work :-)
Thanks Ståle and I'm happy to have you here 😀
18:51 To be fair, at this time Scotland was still independent and they were England's political rivals, in this context, it seems more like a middle finger to a political advisory rather than a show of dominance over a subregion or a sign of oppression over a culture.
Besides, although it was probably used for previous monarchs as well, this might have held special significance for Mary and Elizabeth. Since both could be considered illegitimate, the Scottish king ot Queen could claim England as their own, so it could also have been a way of saying, "yeah, that's right! I'm sitting on the stone, not you. I'm the queen, not you."
And finally, one of Mary's mother's crowning achievements was victory over the Scottish. I wonder if she thought about that while she sat on the stone?
I would like to see how the various Catholic and Protestant elements were melded together for the religious portions.
I don't think there was much Protestantism there to be melded in.
Interesting account of her coronation. 😃👍
Thanks Nicholas. It certainly sounds like it was quite a party.
Good evening to you History Calling.
Hi there :-)
Cool to see the Tudor monarchs depicted in more medieval manuscript art style (as opposed to their more iconic Renaissance paintings)
2:58 also I didn’t know Liz dressed like that even before she became queen
Love the video! Question: when monarchs are anointed with holy oil it is over their clothing or bare skin? I can see how it would not matter with kings but queens might be tricky?! Love all your videos!!
On bare skin, but I don't think female monarchs need to disrobe for it. It can just be put underneath the collar bone so their dresses don't even need to be particularly low cut.
I do't know if this would be worth a whole video but I'd be curious to know what offices or functions a queen regnant would have appointed a male proxy and how they have changed from Mary I to Elizabeth II.
Hmm, that is an interesting idea but I think it would take an enormous amount of research to create a video on it given the number of Queens regnant who would have to be checked and the lengths of several of their reigns. Obviously Mary II wouldn't have needed any proxies though, as she had a male co-monarch.
Lovely video!! I'm going to rewatch your entire series on Mary I once again!
Thank you (and enjoy) :-)
I wonder what this would have been like if they had had TV and the internet? Oh wait... I guess we're gonna find out.
I plan to have all electronics turned off that day, ensconced in my den, reading a good book. The two minute highlighted version the next day will suffice for me. Although, if you told me that Chucky was going to use a couple of humans as a foot-stool, I would tune in for that.
Oh I think I'll be watching it as I've never seen a coronation before and the next one is presumably decades away. Each to their own however.
@@HistoryCalling Unfortunately, I am old enough to remember QE2
@@HistoryCalling In reality, I don't think the next but one coronation will be decades away. CR III is no spring chicken. I may even get see a Billy V on the chair in my lifetime, age & health permitting 😏
@@tonyk1584 Almost ditto. I was -10 years in 1953!! 😁
I wish I could see the Mass, officiated by the Bishop of Winchester in the old Sarum rite!
Very interesting!
Thank you :-)
Thank you.
The Banquet yum yum HC haha ☺️👍
Yes, I think it'll have been quite the feast.
@@HistoryCalling glad you agree HC. and thank you as always.
I could see you doing a video on Mary I for February because the 507th anniversary of her birthday is during this month.
She'll be mentioned in some shorts, but no, there's no long-form video planned on just her.
Great video and good narrative. If I may ask please do make a bit clear your sintaxe (and the pronunciation a bit higher) because even lthough I understood everything you said neverthless it was a litlle bit dificult for me to caght all words properly, You see, I love the english language but not being english I have sometimes dificulty to cacht all the phrases as they are spoken. As to what I would like you talking about, is for example just how was Mary sentenced to death and although her sister Elizabeth was not willing to accept that horrible sentence she had to obey (so to speak) since she had no power to reject it - it seems that's how it did happen then, so I read many years ago. Thank you for the brilliant video
On my pronunciation, I suspect the issue is my accent which would be more difficult for you if English is not your first language. Try turning on the closed captions as these are created from my script and will match what I'm saying. I'm afraid I don't understand your question about Mary as she was never sentenced to death.
@@HistoryCalling Thank you very much for your response. As to Queen Mary (the one that was so just for a short period), wasn't she the famous "Bloody Mary" as she was 'baptised' by the people after which she became known as such forever in all History Books? I really thought so.
@@mariagenovesa3772 I believe that the queen you're thinking of who was sentenced to death was Mary Queen of Scots, almost thirty-five years after this coronation. She was a cousin of Mary I and Elizabeth (Mary Queen of Scots was the granddaughter of Henry VIII's sister Margaret, who had married James IV of Scotland). Elizabeth had Mary Queen of Scots held prisoner in England, where she had fled after her forced abdication from the throne of Scotland, and Elizabeth signed the warrant for Mary's execution, which took place in 1587. James I and VI, who succeeded to the English throne (he was already the king of Scotland) at Elizabeth's death in 1603, was the only (living) son of Mary Queen of Scots.
The procession from the Tower to Westminster is the most different part of her coronation from the modern counterparts. It must have been really fantastic to see in the 16th century.
Yes, it would be amazing to see, as would the pageants.
Yes all the women on horses would have been amazing
The Knights of the Bath ritual sounds like a Monty Python sketch. One visualizes rubber duckies and soapsud beards and hats.
Well this one is definitely visualising all of that now :-)
We really need to bring the word “goodly” back.😂
The Knights in the Bath! The mind boggles 😄
It baffles me there’s never been a Biopic about Mary ascending to the throne and her descent into madness and paranoia. She was the first English Queen to be crowned in her own right and it was certainly an uphill battle all her life to get there.
Good evening to history calling
Hi Bea. Hope you're in the mood for something Tudory :-)
Around eight minutes in, where is that etching of London from? I adore etchings and that one looks really interesting.
British Library. It's small and only up for about 5 seconds, but I have a little acknowledgement on screen in the lower left corner when the picture appears.
@@HistoryCalling I've got one that's about a meter long called "Shakespeare's London" but it doesn't name the buildings like the one you showed.
I think Henry's mistreatment of her resulted in her being a very damaged person when she came to the throne. Someone who was paranoid and sought revenge notably on Cranmer who had supported divorce of her mother from Henry. Remember also she had faced possible execution under her fatber Henry VIII and Edward VI.
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THANK YOU KIMBERLY for donating so kindly to the channel. I hope you enjoyed hearing about Mary's coronation :-)
I will be going to northen ireland next month. What should i go to see while i am there? I figure you would know the area better than i would.
Depends which part of the country you're in, but if you're in Belfast then I would recommend the Titanic experience, the Ulster Museum and the City SightSeeing Tours on the red buses. If you're up the North Antrim coast, then the Giants' Causeway, Dunluce Castle and the Carrick-a-Rede rope bridge are well worth a visit. If you're in the west, the walls of Derry/Londonderry are good and there are some good National Trust properties in that general area too. Have a wonderful visit. Let me know how you get on.
@@HistoryCalling thanks for all of those ideas. Some were already on my list, but most were not. I also found out that they do falconry outings and the marble arch cave seemed nice. I will let you know how things go when i am out that way.
From a religious perspective one of the most important ceremonies during a coronation is the anointing of the Monarch with holy oil called Holy Chrism. This oil can only be blessed by a bishop once a year. I read that Mary refused to be anointed with the Holy Chrism which was kept in the Abbey because it had been blessed by a schismatic protestant bishop. In order to ensure the validity of this rite, Mary requested from France Holy Chrism blessed by Catholic bishops with which she was anointed.
That story does ring a distant bell actually, but I'd need to check the sources.
@@HistoryCalling Yes, unfortunately I read about this several years ago , but I am unable to find the source. From what I remember, Mary was concerned that being anointed with Holy Chrism from the Abbey would sacramentally associate her with the schism and the clergy who promoted it. She feared that the coronation rite would be rejected by Catholics as invalid.
Too bad Becoming Elizabeth was cancelled. Mary was the best character on that show.
I never even got to see it. I don't have Starz :-(
It's interesting to hear that the challenge on horseback (inside!) was a normal part of the coronation process, otherwise I would have assumed that it was done for Mary specifically because of her gender. It's a great inducement to get a bunch of crusty men to behave 🤪
Yes, don't expect to see that at Charles III's coronation :-)
Love Mary I ❤
What I'd like to see most is the expression on Elizabeth's face 🤣
She had the last laugh though:-)
I wish I could've witnessed the long pageants on the streets as she processed through London the day before the coronation! Question: I imagine that the coronation was composed of religious and state or ceremonial parts and if so, were the religious ones performed from Protestant or Catholic bishops and what was Mary's thoughts as this was being planned?
I find that I’m of two minds when it comes to Mary Tudor. The emotional abuse that she suffered, along with her mother, by Henry VIII (and after her mother’s death) was unconscionable. (May he rot in the lowest rung of hell for the misery he caused to thousands of innocent people!) The situation when her brother, Mr Uber Protestant himself, was likewise fraught with danger. Then when she was eventually crowned queen and finally got married her beloved husband didn’t love her in return, and because she wanted children so badly she suffered two phantom pregnancies and the terrible embarrassment she felt afterwards. Nobody should ever have to go through that much trauma in their life! On the other hand, Mary was positive that she was right and no one could gainsay her. Her stubbornness and belief that she was ALWAYS right and ALWAYS directed by God undid most of the good that she had done during her reign to the point that when she died most people were relieved and happy to move on to Elizabeth. What a tragic life!
Does anybody know what a goodly pagant is? English isn't my first language and I cannot find any clarification on google.
Cap-a-pie probably been pronounced in French, meaning from head to feet (pieds)...?
Well. I confess I did not know that The Order of Bath was so literal. !! I assumed it was a ceremony in the city of Bath. Perhaps I should have guessed as I know Royal weddings needed a gang of on-lookers on to view the consummation of the marriage. Visibility at the extreme . It has always surprised me that Lady Grey ( poor girl) was not more supported in a country that seems to have become rabid anti Catholic in just a few decades of "Protestant " reform. I concede Mary had supporters and many citizens were probably closet Catholics .. still..?
This is probably more from my negative view on the compassion and understanding of religions, however .
MMM... I think the actual crowing would be most interesting.. Hanging around for the party might be fun... but I think I would be anxiously waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Yup, you gotta get in the bath to be a Knight of one :-) In the case of Jane Grey, I think by this point people were very much wedded to the idea of having a Tudor on the throne and I imagine a lot of them saw Mary as perfectly legitimate. We have to remember too that she was actually very popular in England in her youth and continued to be so until her reign went off the rails. Her mother had also been much loved so I think she gained even more popularity from that.
Were the first few color illustrations King George lV coronation banquet?
I haven't jumped back in the video to check, but from memory, yes.
@@HistoryCalling Many interesting stories from that one, last banquet, spectators storming for leftovers, the knight had a number of horse issues, AND boxers hired as bouncers West Minster doors to keep Queen Caroline out. 😄
Would you ever make a video about Katherine Swynford?
Never say never :-)
That would be wonderful!
Katherine Swynford would be a brilliant choice - the ancestress of so many European kings and queens. And such an interesting period in history
Forgive me for sounding disagreeing, but weren’t there a few Anglo-Saxon queens? Though admittedly not a queen of England, certainly a queen?
It’s heart breaking what Mary went through, and how she’s still the ‘bad guy’ for remaining Catholic, same as James the Second,
Yes, you're quite right. I perhaps should have clarified that I was speaking of the post-conquest era. I also don't know if the Anglo-Saxon queens were crowned or not as I don't know much about them.
@@HistoryCalling Apologies. It should probably have been obvious really.
Honestly, I’m not sure. They’re in that weird and wacky historical land pre-conquest, where historians seem to go ‘ah yes. People.’
There were no queens regnant prior to the Norman conquest.
England came into existence in 927 so there were numerous queens consort of England prior to 1066. The first to be given the title of queen was Aelfthryth who was anointed and crowned in 973. Other subsequent queens held the title but were not anointed or crowned. The custom of crowning the queen consort was reinstituted in 1068 when William I's wife, Matilda, was crowned.
I think I might not understand the meaning of the word pageant at least in the historical context I'm getting the sense that the modern meaning is not accurate for the setting so the question is what would constitute a pageant during this time.?
Yeah, it's not like the modern-day beauty pageants that we might think of. It's closer to an 16th century street party, though pageants could be held on water too. If you look up the water pageant for Elizabeth II's Golden Jubilee in 2012, that'll give you an idea of what they can look like. On land it was a bit like a big parade. The St Patrick's Day celebrations in places like New York, or the gay pride parades that are often held today would be a modern equivalent I think, at least in terms of the atmosphere and scope of the whole thing.
Completely random question: Is there any evidence that a young Elizabeth ever met her stepmother Jane Seymour, or her half-brother Henry FitzRoy? She was away from court after her mother’s fall and Jane’s tenure , but Henry was regularly at court during Anne’s tenure, so it’s possible.
She definitely met Jane Seymour as I *think* she was at court for the Christmas festivities in 1536 (if it wasn't Christmas, it was for some other occasion). She was also at Edward's Christening which was just before Jane's death, so she might just have seen her then too. I don't know about Fitzroy though.
How unnerving to play host to the child whose mother died partly because of you! There must have been some awkward faces there.
As for FitzRoy, I expect there is a good chance he and Elizabeth must have met for some official occasion, perhaps for his marriage to Mary Howard or just a visit from his father. As Henry’s only son, he must have been relieved to hear Elizabeth was a girl!
@@HistoryCalling Fitzroy died very shortly after Anne Boleyn was executed, when I think Elizabeth was only two. I'm sure they must literally have met, but I suppose it is unlikely that she remembered him very well, if at all.
By the way would you ever make a video on what kind of offer Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard could have gotten or any agreements from Henry the 8 if they had got a divorce from Henry the 8 or would they have just been sent to live in the country side in your opinion
Oh I'm afraid I don't think there was ever going to be any kind of offer on the table for either of those women. If there had been I believe they would have taken it. Both marriages were annulled anyway, without their consent. They had no bargaining tools.
A question, were the clerics (priests, bishops, etc.) those that were in hiding or exile during Edward's reign? Or did the protestant clerics throw off the Book of Common Prayer and restore Latin rites? Even the liturgical music would have to be changed from English back to Latin. I suspect behind the scenes that her coronation caused significant ecclesial disturbance.
I have A question: which one of Philip II's wives do you think Philip would chose to remove from his memory if he had the chance to.
Hmm, that's a tricky one. We could say Mary because that marriage was quite a lot of hassle and didn't produce any children, or we could pick one of the other three on the basis that he probably felt more for them and was more pained at their loss.