How to use a Tesla Supercharger... without a Tesla!
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2022
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Want to know how to charge your non-Tesla at a Tesla Supercharger site? Electrifying.com shows you how. Tesla's incredible Supercharger network is no longer the preserve of Tesla owners following the start of a pilot programme earlier this year. A total of 15 sites across the UK are now open to non-Teslas that use the standard CCS rapid charging connector.
But how do you use one? Join Nicki as she takes Electrifying.com's trusty Audi Q4 e-tron along to the Wokingham Supercharger site to load up with Elon's electrons. She explains how to find an open station (remember, only selected sites are open to non-Teslas), how to set up payment and how to start a charge. And before the comments are invaded by Tesla owners, yes, she explains everything you need to know about parking etiquette on-site.
Open Tesla Supercharger sites as of 6/7/2022:
SE England
Folkestone Eurotunnel
Wokingham
Uxbridge
Thurrock
Cambridgeshire/Oxfordshire
Thetford
Trumpington
Wyboston
Banbury
Wales
Aberystwyth
Flint Mountain
The North
Manchester Trafford
Belford
Scotland
Dundee
Aviemore
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"Don't take up two spaces" she says
whilst doing exactly that!
just don't do that if people are having to wait to charge, you will not be popular!
What you mean you have to sometimes wait for a charger as well that cant be right.
Idle fee only kicks in 5 minutes after charging completes. By using 2B's charge point, you're effectively blocking 3A for someone with a passenger side charge port. You should technically use the end bay if it's vacant
I just used a supercharger with my ID3 for the first time today. Worked well and there were like 15 stalls free! You don't get that kind of luxury here in France with other services. Hope to see more locations open soon. And maybe longer cables, as I had touse the wrong parking spot, taking two spaces (I was ready to leave if it had gotten too full).
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Do you need to go through the app procedure everytime or just the first time and than it is plug and charge?
Great to see the superchargers opening up to none Tesla cars. Not that I would be using them much at that price but nice to know if you needed a quick top up you can because you know they will work. Unlike some none Tesla chargers.
I’ve an E Niro that easily does 4 mile per kWh. yesterday it was a shade under 5 That being the case even Tesla’s charge is cheaper than current diesel prices and Tesla’s chargers are there if all else fails, well done Elon.
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it helps if you can visit some shop or conveniance area when charging to keep yourself amused.. and alert
Thoroughly disappointed that this piece did not discuss the issue of charge port position on the car vs. the stall, beyond a quick reference to “charge point etiquette”. Pretty much all VW Audi etc. cars have the charge port on the nearside rear meaning unless the Tesla superchargers have an empty space beyond the rightmost bay, at busy sites, there will end up being blocked bays.
This appears to be exactly what Nikki has done. She's taken up two spaces.
Nearside could mean either side depending on which country you drive. Better to say left side or right side. My tesla has it’s charge port on the nearside for the UK, which is the left side (and the right side IMO) 😁
@@SirHackaL0t. thanks Clive haha, I deliberated about whether to say nearside or right. I am considering moving away from VW group cars with my next EV, to something with a nose-mounted charge port, as that seems to offer the flexibility to park nearly anywhere. Would still prefer to be reverse parked but ah well.
@@cannygrowabeard I won’t buy a VW after their dieselgate debacle.
Idle fee should be introduced by other charge companies, I have several times had to chase around trying to find the owner of a car that's fully charged but still hooked up to the charger. Needs care in implementation however, I have been unable to disconnect from a charger (wouldn't charge and wouldn't unlock), unable to contact tech support (BP), and then been charged a long stay fee before now.
Don’t use 2 supercharger stalls, says the driver who is doing just that.
I think that's done for the sake of composition for filming..
@@Its-Just-Gizmo pretty stupid to leave the comment in the edit then
The shot from 5:08 shows they are using only one charging stall.
@@FFVoyager hardly. It's basically "illustrative purposes". If they parked it more appropriately, you wouldn't see the charger and the car at the same sort of angle in the shot. It's not rocket science and frankly the argument you're asking is pedantic 🤷♂️
@@Its-Just-Gizmo No, the port is on the other side to a Tesla. The car is parked in the space next to the charger so using two spaces.
Nice T-shirt on the mini man! Concratulations!
Brilliant share, thanks for the information
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Wow that’s very handy to know cheers.
I didn’t realise how easy it was until I tried it roughly a week after it came out in the uk (thought it was going to be much harder but still no clue how to do so and searching your channel was my first thought) this will do great this video view wise in the long run
One of the issues with CCS EVs charging on Tesla's superchargers is clearly displayed by the way you are parked in the video. You are using the unit to the left of your car. And blocking any Tesla from backing into the unit to the right of your car. Not an issue when there are many chargers available. But on holiday weekends taking up two chargers is a no no. Tesla needs longer CCS cables.
Non-Teslas need one more chargeport I would say...
@@joern7354 If you mean that all cars should install Tesla connectors to use Tesla chargers I disagree. While Tesla's connector is more elegant than CCS. CCS can carry more power than Tesla.
It will be interesting to see if Tesla will add an additional cable to their American chargers. Or will make adapters available, like they did to allowing Tesla cars to charge on CCS. They are planning on non-Teslas to charge on their units. Because they want some of that government money.
@@usaverageguy this is Not what I mean. Actually Tesla should start rising CSS ports in the US, like all European Teslas have already built in.
Here in Europe many Superchargers got actually two wires with the different plugs.
Okay, what I mean in my comment is the different location of the port in many non Teslas. If there would be a common location (left back or front right) the wire would be long enough.
@@usaverageguy All SuperChargers in the UK and europe are CCS already. Some still have a type 2 tesla connector that can do DC as well but all have CCS connectors now.
@@SirHackaL0t. yes
Not park taking two spots ? You are doing that
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Downloaded the app, but not showing non tesler, any ideas?
Not a comment but a question. Will the Tesla accept multiple i.e. more than one credit/debit card for payment. I drive both for business - for which I can charge expenses on a business debit card - and for personal journeys, usually in a different vehicle, for which I use a personal credit card. The old Ecotricity Electric Highway app allowed me to decide which card I wished to charge but nowadays you often have no choice but to use contactless and then go to a website to download a VAT receipt (which is often not available until days later) or if you use an app, it will only link to one bank card.
The cable isn't too short. You've got at least an extra 50cm to move backwards.
when are the superchargers opening to other cars like NISSAN and CHEVROLET?
The prices at these public charging stations are nearly as hilarious as those at the fuel pump...and thats now! . Will be an interesting watch over the next decade.
These are Non-Tesla prices. As seen here, they need two charging spaces for their car with a port on the wrong side ;-)
But of course many EV owners will only use these - or indeed any public charging - on the occasional longer trip. Most of the time they'll charge at home on their 4.5p or 7.5p per kwh night time EV tariffs..... The public chargers in my nearest town (or at least those I looked at last week) were priced at 30p per kwh for subscribers, and slightly more for random users..... I personally rarely use public charging. Once or twice a year is my usual, although I do occasionally bag a top up at my local Sainsburys free charger if I'm in the locality.....
@@joern7354 And some of those whom buy a used Tesla, get free Supercharging for life.....
So, great that Tesla's chargers are available, well in some places but, I downloaded the app and it didn't look anything like the one you showed. Are there different versions of the Tesla APP?
There’s only one version. Did you get the map for chargers? There’s a button at the top ‘search this region’ that will show any chargers that can charge a non tesla. You might need to zoom out.
Would have been good for them to show how to use the app from the beginning, managed it after a bit of playing about but not very intuative
My (Android) Tesla app definitely does NOT have a non Tesla button. Perhaps the current version defaults to Non Tesla simply because I (obviously) haven't registered a Tesla vehicle on the app. The Tesla website (Find Us) has a whole different protocol for Non Tesla - select the Non Tesla bar - and Search. Problem is only some of the resulting sites have any kind of Proceed option
I know type 2 extension cables are available.
Are CCS extension cables available?
1m would probably enough to avoid taking up two spaces at a Tesla Supercharger.
Of course Tesla should have foreseen the problem of non-Teslas taking up two spaces ands simply installed longer CCS cables in the Superchargers that can charge non-Tesla cars.
the extension cables and adapters are fine, but you must see if using either (specially the cable) downgrades the charging speed... which will probably happen... a lot of tech in those frigging cables.
Nice, Nikki! Apparently Tesla is going to open up their Superchargers to other EVs on our side of the pond also, but there is a lot of work to do first. For example, the units here do not even have CCS plugs, so Tesla will either have to modify them like in Europe or sell adapters. An extension cord would be nice (and necessary) also. I think using a Supercharger should be easier for you, however. Instead of having to put in your card information to charge, why not just have an account with Tesla that deducts your cost from your bank account (like happens here)? Finally… congrats on your baby! I haven't seen you since before the delivery, and hope that everything went well, and is going well, with the new arrival!
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I tried to charge it with my IONIQ 5. It didn't work. There is some issue with compatibility between the car and the charger (V3).
Yup, seems both Ioniq5 and sister car EV6 have the same issues. They seem to accept charge on the V2 stalls tough? As a tesla driver I don't have any issues with Superchargers opening up but I do wish non Teslas acknowledge the problem with location of the ports and try not to block more stalls than necessary... Drove by a smaller Supercharger site the other day with three VW:s charging, effectively blocking three remaining chargers for anyone with a Tesla (Port rear left side). As the site was quite crowded a waiting line formed even though Nav reported three free chargers that simply couldn't be used by the waiting Teslas...
For the benefit of filming she needed to park that way to get everything in shot. Hopefully that won’t happen to often and hopefully Elon will update the cables on all the chargers he unlocks. Frankly I, and I’m not a Tesla owner, feel he shouldn’t unlock all his charge point, maybe 3-4 on a 10 stall would be fairer to Tesla owners.
How would she have parked any different if she wasn’t doing a piece for camera? The cable is still the same length, the charge port is still going to be on the same side. She plugged in.
And ‘She’ is Nicki.
I just found this video and one of the first things you say is you will keep the list updated ... does that mean they havn't added any new sites in over a year?
Best to just install the tesla app, then it's easy to browse the map there, you don't need to create an account for this bit. There are maybe twice as many now.
My app doesn't show a non Tesla option. So I ....
> Use browser to go to Tesla Website
> Charging
> Under Supercharging select Find
> Under the 'Enter location' Search bar there are eight bars - (use landscape view or scroll sideways)
> deselect ALL EXCEPT 'Superchargers Open to Other EVs' (and return to Portrait view)
> Now use the time honoured thumb-and-finger trick to manually search the map (or use the Search bar)
After that it's intuitive. It seems you have to enter payment card details even if you've already created an account on the website or app. In fact logging in is a hassle (requiring an authentication code) for no apparent gain (I think)
They need to make the charge points on all cars at the back of the car and in the middle. No issues with cable length and you can reverse park.
Or at the front in the middle like the leaf?
@@patdbean you can't reverse park with the port at the front
@@verygoodbrother the bottom line is that chargers were designed for Teslas . If you were designing from scratch you would run the cable via an overhead arm that you could swing out over the car to reach eny point front or back.
@@patdbean Just speaking generally about ev chargers not specifically Teslas. At the rear in the middle is the best solution imo. As reverse parking is safer and no worrying about which side to park.
@@verygoodbrother maybe to vulnerable to damage in miner prangs ?
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Has anyone done the research on the electrical field while sitting in the car while using the supercharger ?
There will be no significant difference from any other rapid charger. It is just an electricity supply.
Great 2 spaces being used by these.
Downloaded the App yesterday and created an account. The latest App that I have does not have the “ charge your non Tesla” tab. What am I doing wrong? Any help would be appreciated.
When I launch the app the top half of the screen can be swiped left and right to choose between finding a charger ("Charge Your EV"), something about home charging, and a route planner for Teslas only. The "Charge Your EV" one leads to the map.
But it's for Tesla only... It does not give you any option for non Tesla drivers
@dgattenb I'm pretty sure it's showing just the chargers that are open to all, though it's not explicit and I haven't tried them yet. I guess unless you add a tesla vehicle to the app, it assumes you are non-tesla. There are charging tips in the app that only apply to non-teslas.
@@GeorgeFoot yes I think you’re right. The app assumes I correctly have a non Tesla. I think it might be the software on my MG that needs an update.
i go on the web site far better than the app !... @@GeorgeFoot
£0.61/kWh vs £0.79-0.85 other public chargers. Also usually no queues, all stalls working. Guess what I choose lol
I have created an account within the Tesla app but the option: "Charge Your Non Tesla" does not appear?
I’ve just done the same. “Charge your non Tesla” is not there
Same
4:19 *Amazing Technology - think I will carry on with my Merc W247 B200CDi AMG - 89.3 MPG even at £2 a litre cheaper than 61p per KWh and Fill up and range around 700 Miles takes 5 Minutes !*
Forgetting one thing, you can charge your BEV at home everyday for your daily commute for a very low price/kW.
By the way, have you ever meassured it to go anywhere close to 89.3 MPG on dino juice only?
I see it is a phev with cheating numbers, it is probably no more than 43 mpg in real life. Have fun changing oil and filters etc.
You will achieve nowhere near this mpg figure my friend.
If you have off road parking, time to switch (depending on mileage you are doing)
Now do the cost comparison at 7.5 p /kWh that many EV drivers pay.
@@sixtyseven3337 tool photo to prove it
@@casperhansen826 It's a Bluetec Diesel !
Problem is that your audi charge port is on the opposite side. So you have used the wrong charger for the bay you are parked in meaning that someone with a Tesla parked next to you can now not charge as Tesla chargers have short cables. Shame
Congratulations on your little boy! Nice to see you working so soon.
What happens if you don't have a smartphone?
Don't use chargers that need apps. RFID cards will have to do for those people
How many people have an EV but not a smartphone?
@@MyMednas my dad
@@MyMednas You won't need a smartphone before too long, as an increasing number of chargers will have to offer contactless payment facilities by law.....
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£.61 per kw/h? That is like 50% more than they charge in SWITZERLAND FFS!!
Undoubtebly? Is this a new word?!!
ChargeScotland normally ‘charge’ 15-25p per KWh..... interesting cost ‘comparison’....? Must be very high-tech electrickery... or Cybertruck/Full self-drive compatible..
That sounds like a fantastic deal if it is fast DC-charging (150-300kW)! Yes, Teslas Supercharging isn't cheap but it is extremely convenient and accessible with well built up network and tons of slots at every charging station. Add to that an extremely low rate of chargers down compared to any charging network out there. Many users, if not most use it when traveling outside the range of your car which isn't too often, thus the cost is ok in my opinion. I charge my car at home for around 8p/kWh, all taxes and fees included (Swedish energy tax, transmit fees and 25% VAT) so overall the Supercharger cost is a small problem even though I wish it was cheaper.
As a Tesla shareholder but not EV owner it fills me with joy we can now charge you over 50 quid and nearly an hour to charge at our charging stations. Considering the mileage you would get from that I reckon a good old Diesel would be cheaper to run and cheaper to buy. The idle fee is another win win cash grab so thanks for helping bolster the profit margin and share price more.
You sound extremely bitter. Plus, I would say less than 1% of EV owners rely on public charging on a daily basis. I’ll take my £5 for a real life 290 miles from charging at home thank you. The odd (exaggerated) £50 once in a blue moon satisfies me. You sound as smug as the car owners of the stock you hold. Surprised you took time off smelling your own farts to comment to be honest
Except the Android app doesn't have a charge my non tesla option 🤷♂️
Sure it has, do you have an old version maybe?
@@rogerborgeryd1897 just downloaded the app today and it still doesn't appear?!? I'm clearly doing something wrong but can't work out what 🤷♂️
@@rogerborgeryd1897 just get a home screen that says explore and there is no charging anywhere, just tesla products to buy.
@@rogerborgeryd1897 need to enter address and tel number on account or it doesn't show!
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Did you remember to take the baby!!
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As a tesla owner i wish thy didn’t open them up its allredy busy enough
I think this piece is very poor, the Charging etiquette was brushed off. Tesla need to place a warning for non-Tesla drivers to not block two bays, which isn’t very obvious. But it should allow Tesla’s drivers to use the app to send a picture and the registration plate for those offenders, so they get a £10 penalty charged to their car for blocking two bays.
The simple solution so it's clear to anyone new to Tesla's network is to paint lines like a normal parking space and a number on the curb or in the middle of each space for each space which matches the number on the charger. A fine to the customer is a significant penalty for Tesla (or their contractors who installed this set up) not communicating clearly.
@@ElizabethJones-pv3sj Tesla will never enforce this because the sites are practically incompatible with cars that can't follow that rule. If you hard force this requirement then it would be hypocritical to then suggest the site is open to non-Tesla EVs. In my opinion Tesla supercharger sites really are not designed to accommodate all EVs, because if this problem, so opening them up is very shortsighted. It creates huge problems. But I think they're being politically pressured and financially motivated.
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@@richardthomas6875 yes, at the end of the day Tesla is a corporation and they have a financial motivation to make their chargers open to as many customers as possible. If they have to choose between one person who has gotten used to the current system or a dozen new customers they are going to choose the dozen customers. Plus most of the time Tesla isn't going to be the target of that anger instead the anger will usually be directed at the drivers who are not following the old etiquette.
So you say use charge etiquette and don't use two chargers but you do EXACTLY that. The chargers are designed to fit a Tesla which has the port on the REAR PASSENGER SIDE of the vehicle. . By having an Audi and plugging into the wrong (drivers) side you ARE using the wrong side !!!! Maybe you journalists should watch a proper video like the one by RSymons. This is the reason so many Tesla drivers are so against the network being opened up to other EVs.
@You Tube Sure wouldn't be a bad idea. . Of course any decent manufacturer would have out their ports on the same side as Tesla do anyway.
Tesla need to sell an extension cable so that all cars using Tesla superchargers can use the appropriate charger assigned to each bay, if that means for safety reasons that charging speeds need to be reduced for cars when using the extension cable, then so be it
@@watchtheskies They just have to make their cabels longer!
@@mattjarrett8868 don't see what your comment has to do with idiots using the wrong charger????
This isn't the future we signed up for.
Only Tesla owners signed up for the future! What did you expect?
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As many say, good for an emergency situation only. No NI locations on the list yet so will need to wait for this emergency option to be useful for me
Want to see the baby please missy please, pretty please.
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Well this video hasnt aged well, has it? He's not going to be making any more superchargers. I'll leave you to cope with that as best you can.
Your “charging etiquette” is shockingly bad. All it would take is two badly parked non-Telsa’s - as you demonstrated so clearly here - at the Aviemore Superchargers and the whole site becomes unavailable to anyone, Tesla or non-Tesla. Your content is usually high quality but this video hasn’t been thought through properly. Much like Tesla’s decision to open up Superchargers while all their cables are still too short.
Came here to see if I’d be able to charge my etron GT at them. Yes it uses CCS, except with there the charge port is, I’ll put money on that cable not reaching unless I park horizontally and take up two or more spots. 😂
Gd for emergency but at 60p what a joke cheaper running a small diesel. They can’t blame people for sticking with petrol/diesel the cars are cheaper and there going to be cheaper to run if you can’t charge at home!! Oh and there more convenient
@You Tube totally agree
The super chargers are maninly for quick charing on longer routes. Normally (for most people probably 90%+ of the time) you charge much cheaper att home, or on cheaper public AC.
@You Tube You mean like petrol stations? Different prices at those also
Well today I filled my ICE tank to full capacity costing a reasonable amount and no cards to purchase, no cards to be in use and points on my club card as a result - so I am thinking to hell with EV's and their over expensive costs and stick with ICE till the last drop of fuel goes in my tank and then maybe get myself a horse and cart and a supply of carrots.
The super chargers are maninly for quick charing on longer routes. Normally (for most people probably 90%+ of the time) you charge much cheaper att home, or on cheaper public AC.
I don't agree but.... I would like to see charging made easy. Why not just swipe your card and pay?
I would like that
@@TheAllMightyGodofCod for the most part, charging is exactly like that. It just uses a different card. I've had an ev for almost 1.5 years now, and the only time I had to use something other than my charge card, was (ironically) while using a Tesla Supercharger.
Before you do, look carefully into the cost and upkeep of a horse these days...... Many cars will cost less to run. How much did that full to "capacity" tank cost you? My Kia EV can get me 100 miles for £3. As opposed to £12 to £15 to cover 100 miles with petrol or diesel... I have the convenience of being able to "fill" up on my drive too. You *have* to drive to a fuel pump. I wonder how much fuel you use each year, just *driving* to a fuel pump to fill up? I'd estimate around £150. That would get me at least around 5000 miles....
Most , 70%+ of charging is done at home , overnight power on octopus GO is still only 12p a kWh . Or about 4p a mile. Much cheaper than any ICE car.
For most people DC fast charging is very much the exception, vital when you DO need it but an exception none the less.