The WORST Updates from Each Counter Strike Game
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- Each CS game has had a pretty bad update but which is it?
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0:00 - Intro
0:55 - CS 1.6
3:57 - CS: Source
6:25 - CS:GO
9:13 - Outro
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Honestly the revolver update was hilarious. People were playing R8 only competitive rounds and it was some of the most chaotic fun I've ever had playing CS.
I’ll always remember that first night the update dropped. So much fun
I was called Revolver Ocelot for 3 weeks and had a goddamn blast in both comp and dm
Also getting to shoot before the round started 😂
AUG-Week was also very memorable...
Same here, i spammed R8 Only called myself Sheriff and just had a ton of fun, propably the most fun i´ve had in the Game for the entire 9 Years im Playing Go :D
A lot of people would say CS 1.4 and 1.5 are the worst updates due to the movement and spray nerfs. CS 1.0-1.3 might as well just be called Action Quake 2.
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@@EggyB stop talking, be quiet for several days.
@@clanka. 🍑
I think how history panned out for these versions, how long they were actually played.
In this aspect 1.5 was quite succesful, It was played for maybe the second longest compared to 1.6, if we consider the 1.x versions of CS.
Many of my friends played or even maintained 1.5 servers of national significance for long.
We maybe occasionally played 1.6, or in a random ratio between 1.5 and 1.6.
1.5 was quite good, almost the final version of the 1.x Counter-strikes. I think many loved it, because
the awp was less nerfed than in 1.6, to do repeated noscope-, or quicksope-switch to other weapon-and back to awp shots were quicker than in 1.6
I know multiple European 1.5 servers (20-32 slot) that were full all day in the first half of 2010s, and
they have been full with some skilled friends at nights even during the first years of CSGO. I have even
maintained one of them. We have just laughed at he existence CS:Source. I have played Source for 2 rounds
at a freind of mine, in the first round I have forgot to bind mouse1 so I have missed out on sprayin mltiple guys with tmp, and then in the next I have sprayed them, and au revior Source for good :)
In this aspect 1.6 is still quite succesful, although definitely declining player count by now. But I still
know some 1.6 servers, which are astonishingly good scene and skill-wise, and often full, almost all day.
One exmaple is the Buxna public (ran by some Southern Slavs, I'm not sure which country although,
maybe a mixed effort.) If you want to see a good example of an 1.6 server, find it in Gametracker, and
try it, I'd recommend it to all fans. They pull out maps out of I do not know where regularly. Many of those
maps I have not ever seen in the 20 years I have played CS, but still, they play well, nice, funny, and often
even balanced maps. Amazing, maybe they have modder friends, or some of them just spends a lot of
time to find maps for the night fun. I like them admin job and skill-wise as well. This is so far from the
impersonal and toxic Valve-ran, no-admin publics of CSGO.
The problems with 1.6 are the following:
Many of the players can not accept that tixoing with mousewheel is distgusting as it is. And not requires too much skill. If there is something I do not miss from CSGO, then this is the mwheel-tixo, or script-aided tixo.
The other problem with 1.6 is:
the game engine is not sufficiently independent from the fps. Game design-wise too much fps dependency on the engine side is definitely bad engineering. There are multiple documents over the internet, what confirms, that if your fps_max is above 100 and the fps_max is a divider of 1000 without a remainder at the same time, then you experience a slight speedup in movement and shooting (a few percent higher damage/second output). In effectively the server lets your client to act faster than other players' clients.
I even hear the difference between the auto firing frequencies if the fps is very low or high, so in edge cases. I think having a higher damage output/second is plain unfair, and game engine-wise having an fps dependent engine is a bad design.
This bug also leads to longer jumps, although to some problems as well, because at some fps levels you can get "stuck" a bit on landing. I have stopped using higher fps_maxes before getting conscious about this bug, because of the stucking.
I have played at an auto bhop fun server at 1.6 where you just had to hold jump, and it was very easy to quite quickly bunnyhop. Well, this was ruined by the abusers of this bug, at higher fps limits like 500, the much higher acceleration and speed gained by the abusers allowed to take map control against quite weak players. Sadly many of them were new generation admins of the server, so proud of their "cleverness". For worse, they turned off the teambalancer plugin, used for long, as well. Sometimes they have played 5-6 admins vs all noobs + me because I do not join in the stronger team at public. So in this way, I have had a scrub 1.25k/d against them without any hiding, just rushing with no stop, or standing still in the middle of nowhere without any shelter to humiliate them :) After having a super colorful scene and server of national significance, with many fun maps, now they have an empty d2 only server. Congrats noobs.
But Goldsource(cs 1.6 is made of it) is actually remake of Quake engine.
actually, that 1.6 update DID go through, and did have different ads throughout the years
ads did get removed in 2013 with the steampipe update however
Yup this is true, the update did go through and for anyone that is curious about it you can see one ad showing up in the door stuck video after they both die.
Well that's kinda shocking. I extensively tried to figure out if it came out or not since these ads were supposed to be more than placeholders but information was pretty scarce and most of what I found was around the announcement and some discussions about it in 2006 to 07. Also finding a version with the ads was difficult which also led me to think it never came out. Mainly though I didn't own Steam CS back then so I wouldn't have known personally.
@@dezolance yeah i had trouble too, turns out it was so unpopular all scene groups at the time refused to release a cracked version of the game with the ads still intact
i ended up downloading a steam server emulator so i can actually obtain a copy of the game with the ads still there
@@_plg Well at least we can still say Valve's plan for these advertisements didn't come to fruition so having the placeholders seems like a mere slap on the wrist as opposed to what it could've been.
I Remeber i had Fifa ads on dust2 with Messi staring me down in CT spawn
You forget to mention that during that time the R8 released, you could buy it on pistol round by putting "buy deagle" in the console.
Well, that was just minor bug that got fixed quickly
+secondary fire in freeztime
Dynamic pricing for guns sounds so fun and interesting. It can be in another game mode not in the main game.
When he said dynamic pricing, I thought it would be dynamic IN a match, not globally. It could be interesting the TRs avoiding buying ak in early game so they can have cheap aks in the late game
@@davibergamin5943 I agree, I think this is a really interesting idea. But only per match and have a cap on how extreme the changes are. Would encourage players to use more variety of weapons instead of AK M4 all the time
It would be cool to have dynamic pricing but prices are reset for every game and prices change every round. Expensive guns would quickly become cheap and could be used in the third round or so but then quickly go up in price depending on player preference.
Dynamic pricing following the trend of the weapons per game. If lots of players are buying a specific weapon, that weapon's price will increase following the demands for it, just like how economy in real life works
Dude those 3 days that the revolver was left broken in the game were some of the most fun times I’ve had in CSGO.
My friends and I grew up playing CS 1.6 & CS:S where most people didn’t play the game competitively, just for fun. If you’ve only ever played CSGO, it’s hard to describe the culture of the game prior to the implementation of matchmaking. Regardless, our little 3 man group eventually adjusted to & even enjoyed CSGO’s more competitive focus. But, for a single joyous moment, the broken revolver brought childlike enjoyment back into our group for the game. It reminded us why CS was so fun for us before we ever gave a shit about competitive ranks.
Dynamic pricing shows that somebody at Valve got bored of mapping and decided to pick up a macroeconomics textbook. And what it led us to? The entire skins and lootbox market, the gambling fiasco, etc.
csgo would be 1/10th of what it is today without skins
@@primtve_dope9568 Or would not even exist by now, without the grandfather 1.6, especially considering how bad the initial releases of CSGO were. Or considering how long, how much they tried to overburden the ancient Source engine. GTA 5 looks and plays so much better on so much bigger maps, with a sligthtly newer and much more better optimized engine. Even on a very low end PC. I'd say by now, it is possible to play GTA 5 on a GPU what one can buy for 5 usd, while the mouse handling on a low end PC is horrendously inconsistent at CSGO. GO improved a lot over time, but not in this and not in the engine overburdening aspect.
@@primtve_dope9568It’s one of those things that makes me feel like my brain works differently from everyone else’s, because I cannot get my head around why people give a shit about skins. The prices that go around and the amount people are willing to pay for them is what REALLY baffles me.
I rarely see a skin that I think looks better than the default weapon texturing, it is so bizarre to me.
@@half-lifescientist1991 people see it as an investment. also, there's no way you don't prefer the look of say, a m9 doppler, rather than stock knife. Or a ak47 leet museo over vanilla.
@@primtve_dope9568 I googled AK47 leet museo, and that's the ugliest goddamn skin I've seen in my life, what brain rot have you suffered that's made you think that that mish-mash of rainbow noise looks any good?
call me old fashioned, but I like when my guns actually look like GUNS
There were also three other things regarding the R8: First the Rifles got nerfed by giving them a bigger spray pattern, second it contained a bug where when you hold F and clicked LMB you could keep the hammer cocked, wich makes the gun firing instantly without waiting for the hammer. And third the right mouse button wasnt disabled for the gun during the freezetime, so you could kill your teammates, if you wanted to grief.
You can also right click when defusing, so basically right click works anytime
I remember the ads in the CS1.6 maps but somewhere in 2013 they were completely removed and as for the dynamic pricing in CS Source, it sounded atrocious but I never experienced it.
Lastly, yeah... The R8 Revolver update was for sure highly controversial and all the games felt like it was like the wild west. I recall it like yesterday... Fun times.
The R8 was stupidly broken but those 2 days were some of the dumbest fun you could have in official matchmaking
@@D00000T yeah r8 week was probably my favourite week of cs. Just the dumbest games. Shame theres no console command to get its op version like there is the cz
Revolver update were 8 years ago? No way
I think that the revolver update was dumb and fun, but the operator skins were just broken on release. There were lots of spots on almost every map where you could blend with the surroundings by wearing the correct skin
They still are. I consistently fail to see certain skins in certain spots of some maps, especially Mirage.
Another great day where DeZolance yells at the sky
Screaming into the void
I want half time chat voice chat to come back. It was so fun talking shit to the other team
I like those banners in 1.6. I've found out if you played a specific version with Software mode, you would get these banners instantly. Not everyone had it, but it was a good one. One popular "Na'Vi are cheaters" satire had a Ghostrider banner in the tab. Good stuff.
Interesting...
The agent skin update has had far worse and longer lasting impact on the game. The revolver was a meme that lasted 3 days before valve patched it into oblivion. There is no patching the agents though. The game is stuck with them forever. Definitely the biggest mis-step that valve ever made with CSGO.
First of all they can easily make adjustments like hiding specifically enemy skins. Second agent skins are nowhere near gamebreaking
@@ioverslept. They were for months, considering they gave a visual advantage by blending into walls.
@@averagealoneredditor well that just proves my point that they can make adjustments
The Unreal Tournament music as the "background"... nice
6:35 Aug and SG were always 'buffed' like that since the game's beginning, eventually they got nerfed tho
ya , no one use it until Valve make it $50 more expensive than AK and M4 . so not using it would be no brainer
I remember some pros like NBK even tried using it then but it didn't catch on until later updates
For CSGO, the worst update imo is the one where they changed the way spray patterns worked. I remember explaining to people that it just made shooting feel like shit and something was wrong and people were telling me that it was untrue and were saying i was bad etc and then a few days later they reversed the update and clarified thats exactly what was happening despite valve saying it made shooting more accurate lol
Winter update not only introduced the R8, but also changed the way rankings worked. I think people lost many ranks because of the new rank system along with that revolver.
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So an update to the game where there was an overpowered weapon for 2 days is the worst update? What about the removal of bots.
Removal of bots was great, less kicks for imbecile reasons.
@@lucasrocha1996 not really, most people who are toxic enough to kick someone for a bot would still kick someone just cause they’re pissing them off. It’s counter strike players
One of the several changes that CS suffered throughout 1.0 - 1.5 was the removal of the CT Training Course in 1.6, it was a lot more overexplained than the one in CS:GO but it had some charm to it. As of today the only officially available training course is the one in Deleted Scenes, which is a lot more over the top in comparison to 1.0's version. Unless you grab a hold of CS:GO's build on the Steam settings for CS2 in order to play that game's training course, which in my opinion was a lot more self contained but also fun to get some records.
There was an update that added bots to cs 1.6 then subsequently an update that removed bots with the release of CZ
it also bothers me that the r8 is the only game in csgo where you reload and the whole crosshair moves / head jiggles
@@saltierdongs7760 and the only one that needs to be waited for full reload animation
What, official Valve bots in 1.6? I never remember this. Always thought bots had to be modded in, like Zbot for example.
@@JackTheNoober yeah they added them then took them out lol
@@JackTheNooberyep, the Official Bots was exist in 1.6 Beta for few month in 2003, until Turtle Rock decide to remove it.
If you asking why, because it was only mean for testing, not permanent featured.
Is that the Toy Commander soundtrack I hear in the background? Holy, that's a subscription you earned.
The thing is with the SG meta is that the SG was _always_ that good, it just took people like 5 years to realize.
You forgot the letter P in the thumbnail!
I remember seeing pizza hut ads in the top left when dead in cs 1.6, although it could be a community server thing? it was in the same spot as the orange box ad.
Edit: Looked back on my screenshots and it was actually Dominos - not like it makes any difference :D
Dynamic Pricing sounds good on paper, but then you realize that the M4, AK and AWP would never fluctuate to a stable price, making them unreachable most games.
Nobody ever mentions that week when you could jumpshot with the desert eagle NOBODY! That was so god damn fun i have so many clips of it
Most ppl are bad with deagle so it never rly mattered for your average csgo user ,but good thing it was fixed I guess
@@Ultra289 Tbh it wasn't broken at all, maybe they should've increased the spread at distance but it was sick
Liked your video man! Hope you make more content and grow!
Cowboy Strike was so much fun though
dynamic pricing was before my time, but ive always wanted to check it out. its a shame theres no way to use it anymore
Pretty sure someone made it into plugin or something
The worst update in CS:S was the Demo Update making old Demos unviewable on the Steam Version
I remember one deagle update around 2014, basically making an awp out of it. I was broadcasting at that time and teams internally agreed not to buy it. Was a huge fuzz in the league skype chats as it absolutely came out of nowhere with games to play basically every day. It was completely broken, more so than the revolver in my eyes as many 1.6 and esp. Source players were accustomed to playing deagle style back then. One team even "broke" the agreement on Inferno (I think it was SLTV) and bought them as they were losing, destroying a full-equipped opponent team in like 40 seconds. The opponents also bought deagle the round after so it became a huge mess until the end of the game. Mb 5-10 map rounds of deagle shots left and right. No rifle. No AWP. Only deagle.
nice
Yeah, CS:GO has had a lot of, well not bad updates but unbalanced guns I guess people just exploited it more in CSGO due to its competitive scene to previous titles.
The first 1.6 beta/official first launch of steam 2.0(I think that was the version?) was also a huge failure. It killed the servers almost immidiately and delayed the launch for months. The move to Steam from the old system (WON) for Counter-Strike was also very controversial in general (gameplay changes between 1.5 and 1.6 less so.)
There was an update for 1.6 around in 2013, which ruined the mouse settings. We gotta type 3 console commands and launch option commands in properties to work somehow. For me, that was the time.
The CS 1.6 update with advertising did go live, I never entered any beta and I have screenshots in my library with them enabled in live servers.
Not to forget that next to being a HAND-Awp the R8 was able to shoot WHILE DEFUSING it was broken in all the worse ways
And now we got CS2 update for the list
cs with the r8 was really fun though for the 3 days it lasted. some of the most fun i've personally had.
Fun fact: 1.6 STEAM VERSION still have the AD feauture but inactive, you can activate all of them even for spec and make them custom (on your server, ofc).
Very good and original video idea, keep it up
Great video! Quick advice: The editing is good, but just at the end of the video don't make your voice fade out. You can let the background and music fade but keep your voice untouched. Keep up the good work!
I am so glad you added the Dynamic Weapon Pricing... I try and tell people that it was a real thing, and people truly do not believe me
old css, was gold, you can still play in this version, its called how css v34
Nice video, good to see on my recommended
The hours that steam displays is online time on the game, not actual play time. You can sit and have CS running in the background for a week racking up idle hours counting as online time.
Dwp was fun as hell. Used to crash servers by glock spamming in spawn and then chucking a nade at the pile
I’d heard about dynamic pricing before but I didn’t realize it was THAT bad. I assumed prices were just based on the guns bought in that match (which could actually be kind of interesting). Never would have thought Valve would be stupid enough to make price changes global, based on ALL matches.
I mean the 1.6 one doesnt seem too bad, specially if its meant to help community maps, wich were really big back then, as long as it isnt invasive.
And the R8 one wasnt so bad either due to the very short time it lasted. I think the agent skins one is the worst.
The revolver was such a joke. Most people forget that when it first come out you could shoot it in freeze time as well
another great video ❤
i think the dynamic pricing could be interesting with some tweaks. obviously not in the main game mode but still
Good call on leaving CSCZ alone. Better stayvout of that dumb hate wagon. 1.6 owes CZ all of the extra weapons like famas and galil and among other things. If they didnt try to do that parity thing it would never even be in 1.6.
Its still superior version of og CS and people really should play instead. Even this sypid mandela effect about the menu song in pirated 1.6 versions, thats CZ music too.
god i remember the spectator ads from door stuck
whats the name of the song in 7:21?
man i remember hitting quads with the R8 when it was released. Literally a day before my bday as well xD. U could also shoot it while in prep phase of the round by spamming right mouse button which wasted your ammo. But the fact stays that it was a pocket AWP and it was deadly for a mere 850$. I reckon everybody on my team and enemy team had like 16000$ to spend but everybody chose the R8 xD
I remember when R8 came out people rushing on dust 2 long just to have a revolver stand off (it wasn't even organized, players just did that cuz it was fun a broken)
The wild west revolver only lasted 3 days?! I swear it was longer than that. One of my favourite memories of playing CS back in the day 😂
Valve nerfing the ump in 2017 and the scout in 2019 hurts me the most
I love the adding of Cold Ones in this video
I actually need info how you got that cs 1.6 version
i'd love if a game had dynamic weapon pricing, i know it'd be scuffed and all but i would LOVE it
if i could add 1 thing to CS2 it would be a console command that enables it, is turned off by default, only tracks the bought weapons from the server you're playing on
and before joining a server with the console command turned on it would display a warning message, asking if you really want to join the server
lmao
I was very pleased when I booted up CS 1.6 a year ago and saw the stupid ads were gone. What a dumb idea those were.
i like how the l4d banner in cs 1.6 is the very old beta version.
3 days and lets not forget the shot bug where you hold right click then press left for a instant charged shot at 115 😂
as someone who has been sticking with the original CS the whole time, the 2013 steampipe update to 1.6 was easily the worst, to the point where I pirated the previous 2007 version 4554 after the 2013 version 6153 came out. The 2013 steampipe update was the one that removed Direct3D renderer and EAX and A3D audio APIs from the engine, as well as the death nail to hldsupdatetool in favor of the inferior steamcmd
could be a 10 minute video on awful csgo updates alone tbh
No talk about the nerf of CS:Source bhopping?
Haven't even watched the vid, but know the revolver update will be here. MM was horrific for like a week back then 😂 . Also wish the AWP never got nerfed and we still had global chat at half time and still had bots
Awp nerfs were all great
@@jamieeddolls5605 Just nostalgic for the old era of AWPing and watching players like kennyS and Guardian go absolutely nuts
Don't forget Counter Strike:Nexon Zombies removing crafting and introduce a lottery system for progression.
And a literal account wipe for everyone.
The Revolver is in a much better state in CS2. Pretty sure Valve reverted some changes they made to the revolver, like shortening the firing delay of M1 down to 0.35 seconds or something like that. It is like a Scout, but in pistol form, without the scope. It is hilariously accurate, even while moving.
I'm not old enough to remember any updates before csgo. But man dynamic pricing must have sucked
Shoulda picked shields for 1.6 (or was it 1.5? I'm a little fuzzy now)
Revolver update were so bad that i quit the game for a few months. You could use secondary fire during freezetime (the exact moment i uninstalled the game)
Honestly, they should probably bring back that broken R8 in CS2 like one day a year. Just to change things up and have fun.
Call it "Pistol day" or something.
music from Twisted Metal has surprised me ngl
looks like an updated list is in order
initial CZ launch was arguable worse because that stayed up for a much longer time , initial revolver was nerfed in 1 day , cz stayed up for quite a bit and it was a pistol-ak , better than an ak in some cases
Not gonna lie the revolver as broken as it was, was one of the most satisfying weapons in games ever
I've never heard about dynamic pricing, this sounds soo POTENTIAL! because the realization was actually pretty disbalanced, it would be a good update if you put some brain into it
2:02 The UT Soundtrack ♥️
dinamic weapon pricing seems dope if made well
I remember the pocket awp it was insanely fun for those 3 days
They should just turn the R8 into a deagle and make it in a sense an alternate skin. Think thats the best solution possible for the gun ngl
Holy crap, I remember the revolver update.. It BROKE the entire game.. Everyone was just playing with with, deathmatch was literally high noon everywere. It was literally crazy. I never recorded aces or something else but damn it was fun but also annoying, you could just run and gun lmao.
In CS:GO, imo one of the worst updates was almost entirely removing bots from the game. Seriously, why would I need more money instead of having a bot that actually may help in the game, or when I die I can play with it if it's still alive. Because currently, even when one person leaves, if both teammates and enemies were balanced, the team that has more players may still win.
You forgot to say it was posible to shot with R8 before round started😅
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r8 is usable on some long range maps
I always wondered why dynamic pricing was removed. 😢
I was about to say why doesn't thus have more likes but than I realized its been out for 13 minutes
Other nerf in csgo that was huge waas the reduce on velocity in latters
I've 110% seen TF2 and Orange Box ads in 1.6 a good while ago, it was in the game at some point.
Worst csgo update was when they made it free 😢
I think that the add thing on the map ar not bad ? Like in pro match have ad is normal so have them integrated in maps should not be a problem no ? And would a way to monetize the cs esport more and more ?
I heard some of the ut99 ost in this video 👀
i much rather have ads like that in f2p games than gatcha and skins. quakelive had it back in the day and it never bothered me one bit.
No mention of the riot shield being added to 1.6?
u will be surprised , but the r8 is usable against slow ass corner campers and unsuspecting targets , and if u run in to a submachinegunner near a choke point , you can always right click for a discount desert eagle
Dynamic gun pricing seems awesome! Change the meta week to week and stop the game from becoming stale with force buys etc
TBH all compititive needs that for they all play the same all the time