Put my order in yesterday with the 15t front sprocket, and higher guard kit, in the zephyr blue, I was surprised how smooth the motor was, with a great note from stock ! Also feels pretty balanced, and turns in easily. Not overly impressed by the front brake, but easily something I could get used to
Really interesting even though much I have no idea what it means, I put a 15 tooth front sprocket on mine and it makes road riding more enjoyable. I look forward to your next update.
Its interesting to see you guys already playing with and enjoying you bikes over there across the pond. Hopefully one of these days I can get my hands on one over here once they are available. You all will already have all the little niggles and everything figured out on this bike before we ever get one lol
CFMOTO have recently sent out an update through their app with a new mapping. My bike now runs under 6000rpm at 100k. It also addressed the choppy throttle issue.
I wonder how software update can change things which can only be done manually. this twitchy throttle can only be corrected from pull and push cables. Do you have CFmoto update details. Did they mention what improves with this upgradd.
Thx again for the effort! Question: can you give a small crash course on what you are doing? What quantities are you measuring, what impact do the quantities have in the performance.. and how can you enhance the performance…. (And why do you shift up without clutch?
the shift is done with a flick of the wrist just like a quick shift (cutting torque through the gear) the gearboxes are dog engagement so simple to do so. I am checking rpm at 100 km/h for sprocket change, power check again after doubters thought it should make more ( quoted power from CFMOTO is @8500)
Why do you think the bike is going to make anywhere near the power claim? That’s at the brochure (crank) and you are measuring at the rear wheel or have I missed something? Also you mentioned less torque because of the larger front sprocket but torque remains the same what changes is rear wheel thrust.
Torque is multiplied by gearing. Engine torque is the same but torque at wheel is different when gearing changed. See it all the time. "Thrust" what??? Yeh don't know about that mate. No dyno in the world has a Thrust calculation.
No it would actually go lower. If i ever doubt figures on big powered cars I make sure the tyres are old and hard. Even tyre brands and rims weights can effect power reading on a ramp. steady state is different.
Hey, I've already got on 15T sprocket and going to replace it soon, but still have some consideration for rear 46T sprocket. What do you thing about change to 15/46 set? will it still perform good in off-road conditions? Or maybe just stick around 15/47? Thanks for your suggestions
@ChefDaffee no chassis roller dyno in the world measures crankshaft power. The part the contacts the roller is where it is measured Any other number is just a estimated calculation.
@@frashd yes I know it's calculated. Almost every (car) dyno here in Germany calculates the hp from the crankshaft because typically manufacturers measure the hp on the crankshaft. I heard Cfmoto measure the hp on the wheel. People complained that the 450 MT has just 42hp. Thanks and sorry for my bad english.
Put my order in yesterday with the 15t front sprocket, and higher guard kit, in the zephyr blue, I was surprised how smooth the motor was, with a great note from stock !
Also feels pretty balanced, and turns in easily.
Not overly impressed by the front brake, but easily something I could get used to
Really interesting even though much I have no idea what it means, I put a 15 tooth front sprocket on mine and it makes road riding more enjoyable. I look forward to your next update.
thanks mate, hope you have subscribed.
@@frashd Liked, subscribed and bell icon.
Great video mate !! I’ve already ordered the 15 tooth front sprocket . Cheers from Portugal 😃
Mine is only 140 kms but I’m not waiting till the first service 😂
Its interesting to see you guys already playing with and enjoying you bikes over there across the pond. Hopefully one of these days I can get my hands on one over here once they are available. You all will already have all the little niggles and everything figured out on this bike before we ever get one lol
I hope so!
CFMOTO have recently sent out an update through their app with a new mapping. My bike now runs under 6000rpm at 100k. It also addressed the choppy throttle issue.
@@twowheelin7361 the update can not change gearing. I can't see how the rpm has changed unless the speedo has been updated... which would be good.
only in australia i think , euro 5 hasnt been updated yet
@@konstantinosprouskas8106 is it possible to buy an ECU from uncle wang to get a non Euro 5Version?
I wonder how software update can change things which can only be done manually. this twitchy throttle can only be corrected from pull and push cables.
Do you have CFmoto update details. Did they mention what improves with this upgradd.
@@Taime78 there is drive by wire aswell as electronic throttle control bikes..
Thank you. I'm having the 15-tooth front sprocket installed at the 1st service.
@@nevillegreg1 you will love it
Thx again for the effort!
Question: can you give a small crash course on what you are doing? What quantities are you measuring, what impact do the quantities have in the performance.. and how can you enhance the performance….
(And why do you shift up without clutch?
the shift is done with a flick of the wrist just like a quick shift (cutting torque through the gear) the gearboxes are dog engagement so simple to do so. I am checking rpm at 100 km/h for sprocket change, power check again after doubters thought it should make more ( quoted power from CFMOTO is @8500)
Liked and subbed. looking forward to the TRK video as well.
Thanks for the sub!
Mi like desde España 🇪🇦🇪🇦 se nota? Solo hace falta una repro, haber en España si lo encuentro
Thanks,for video.
Great video. I am adding a dna filter to bike and 15 tooth sprocket. Will ecu alter on its own with new free flowing filter?
@@barrysalmon9892 altering the intake the the airbox will cause possible issues on stock ecu map
@@frashdso it will, but possibly? 😂
Why do you think the bike is going to make anywhere near the power claim? That’s at the brochure (crank) and you are measuring at the rear wheel or have I missed something? Also you mentioned less torque because of the larger front sprocket but torque remains the same what changes is rear wheel thrust.
Torque is multiplied by gearing. Engine torque is the same but torque at wheel is different when gearing changed. See it all the time. "Thrust" what??? Yeh don't know about that mate. No dyno in the world has a Thrust calculation.
Does the type of tyre affect dyno readings much?
If you put a really sticky slick tyre on, would it give a measureable increase?
No it would actually go lower. If i ever doubt figures on big powered cars I make sure the tyres are old and hard. Even tyre brands and rims weights can effect power reading on a ramp. steady state is different.
Great video, Would going to a heat range colder spark plugs and 98 fuel get a power gain?
@michaelgleeson1198 will have absolutely no effect without reflash of the ecu. If you watch my other video you will see.
Hey, I've already got on 15T sprocket and going to replace it soon, but still have some consideration for rear 46T sprocket. What do you thing about change to 15/46 set? will it still perform good in off-road conditions? Or maybe just stick around 15/47? Thanks for your suggestions
@steptrip I would stick with front sprocket only. These are off road bikes and you do want some control at low speeds
@@frashd thank you! Then will stay on that combo. Cheers
Hello, is it the power on the rear wheel or crankshaft? Thanks and have a nice day.
@ChefDaffee no chassis roller dyno in the world measures crankshaft power. The part the contacts the roller is where it is measured
Any other number is just a estimated calculation.
@@frashd yes I know it's calculated. Almost every (car) dyno here in Germany calculates the hp from the crankshaft because typically manufacturers measure the hp on the crankshaft.
I heard Cfmoto measure the hp on the wheel. People complained that the 450 MT has just 42hp.
Thanks and sorry for my bad english.
Anyone know what is the torque of the front sprocket nut?
Can someone explain me?? How the bike have more hp with 15terth when the gearing is longer and less power and got more top speed?
I revved the bike slightly harder, torque has dropped slightly in mid. gearing effects torque HP is work done over time.
16tooth?
Man, how tall are you?
The mt shows like an xt Yamaha
@dimitriosbitis5309 6ft 3 but the bike has no seat on it in video and rear wheel is dropped into rollers on dyno
Me the same height. Is it possible to make the bike a bit higher? 4cm..?