LINKIN PARK HATER listens to Hybrid Theory (FIRST TIME Reaction)
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Intro 0:00
Papercut 4:22
One Step Closer 9:50
With You 16:56
Points of Authority 21:21
Crawling 25:44
Runaway 31:20
By Myself 34:40
In The End 38:32
A Place For My Head 43:30
Forgotten 46:35
Cure For The Itch 50:30
Pushing Me Away 53:06
Outro 56:54
Linkin Parks lyrics are one main reason i haven't committed suicide and Linkin Park has done that for a lot of people it's truly better then medication or therapy.
*listens to Papercut*
“This doesn’t even sound like linkin park”
*is probably the most linkin park sounding song*
Fr. Papercut is like a perfect song to describe what is nu metal sounds like
😂😂😂
@@TheBeast-LPTV no lol... it's the perfect song to describe what LP sounds like... and LP sounds nothing like Nu-Metal
Context is so very important. A lot of these lyrics are Chester working through his childhood trauma. So you've got a guy in his early twenties trying to work through and express his childhood feelings and trauma in lyrics. Of course there's going to be some cringe in that expression. I really don't know how much more raw you can get than singing about your own experiences of abuse, bullying, and mental health struggles. So Linkin Park didn't write music targeted at angsty teens. Angsty teens were drawn to Linkin Park because they found music that they could relate to. And I've noticed that most of the people that hate Linkin Park are those that discovered them after their early teen years or were influenced to not like them by older peers.
Most of the lyrics were written by Mike
They were writen by Mike thinking of Chester perspectives. This has been said millions of times by him, even most of his rap verses were in Chester perspectives so they could fit the chorus. you just have to search, not that hard.@@JarredCarneyOFFICIALBULLDOG
Weird that you're harping on the lyrics so much when in reality, Mike Shinoda's lyrics on this album are vastly more intricate than anything Korn, Limp Bizkit or Coal Chamber ever wrote lol.
I agree.
They’re not more intricate than what Jonathan Davis wrote for Korn, Jonathan Davis wrote his lyrics from past experiences of extreme child abuse, sexual abuse, and neglect. Chester, Mike, and Jonathan’s lyrics are both some of the most important and harrowing in all music. We lost Chester unfortunately, and thankfully we still have Jonathan here. Which is amazing in itself. Go listen to a song such as “Justin” because he wrote that about a dying boy whose last wish was to meet him. The lyrics are both stunning and utterly devastating. Okay?
@@strangemachines_Chester experienced and wrote about those things as well
@@vosoryanmike shinoda wrote most of the lyrics to linkin park's songs actually so idk what ur on abt. im a linkin park fan but i find it funny how ur super quick to defend them but will put down other bands like korn lmao. hypocrite
@donkeykong2.0 Wtf are you ranting about lmao. All I said was that chester wrote about sexual abuse just like Jon Davis did which is true. That's what crawling and points of authority is about. I didn't even say anything bad about korn weirdo
The reason I think Linkin park is so popular is because of Chester’s voice and the lyrics. I love them.
The other guys bring what lp to the table
honestly respect you for trying to get past your own biases, i grew up with linkin park so i am biased in the opposite direction but i also went in a metal elitist phase where i hated anything that wasnt extreme metal so i can really see both sides and now i pretty much listen to everything
honestly no reason to apologise so much, its all opinions, cant force yourself to enjoy something you simply dont, also very nice dog
Ima be real bro. I respect the hell out of what you're doing on your channel. Challenging your tastes and giving things an open mind that you didn't like before is very rare. Awesome content.
You should definitely continue with their discography, the lyrics get better through time but their music style does change after their 2nd album.
I think you’d really appreciate the music more if you watched the live performances. LP never fails to bring maximum passion during their live performances!
I agree Linkin Park - Given Up Live In Clarkston HD
LP themselves also hate "One Step Closer". They wrote it to vent frustrations they had while writing a different song. It's basically a gag song. But because it was the closest thing they ever made to nu metal, their label pushed it hard. But it doesn't represent their sound. They said in many interviews that they would have been quite happy to never play that song again, but they did it because the fans loved it.
ok, firstly: I appreciate the honesty, not much point in saying you love it for no reason.
secondly: I was trying really hard to understand where such strong distaste for the lyrics comes from. Yes, I agree they are simple and straightforward for the most part. They are meant to be, because most of LP's discography is about depression and dark thoughts and Chester's demons really. And when we're in that state, our thoughts or emotions aren't really that complex, they are obsessive and predictable (which is why they're so hard to deal with).
But when something as simple as "you point the finger at me" makes you instant laugh, I was quite puzzled. Went to check for Korn lyrics, and behold they have that same line in their lyrics. And you said you like their lyrics.
This is not a diss, I'm just really confused here.
But, that said, it's fair that the words just don't connect with you, that's a rather subjective experience for everyone.
Thank you for trying to give them a chance, and if it's not your cup of tea, that's fair. Just maybe consider that for some other people the songs mean a lot, so maybe don't dismiss the band's relevance so nonchalantly.
I really don't like super-heavy-all-the-time music at all, for instance, but I respect what people like about that type of music.
Sucks how he probably didn't read this
Crawling was Chester's least favorite to song during their concerts because it was hard on his vocal cords and hard on him mentally. Chester had a drug problem that he struggled with throughout his life. Mike and Chester wrote their songs about the experiences that the band members went through in life. In order to know how Chester was feeling all you had to do was listen to how he was singing each song during each concert. Chester wore his heart on his sleeve. The very thing that made everyone love Chester is the very thing that took Chester from this world. Chester had the voice of an angel and the scream of a demon.
If you want to hear some of the darkest lyrics from Chester then listen to the song Given Up on the Minutes to Midnight album or the song Condemned by Dead By Sunrise. Dead by Sunrise was Chester's second outlet for his music that didn't work for Linkin Park.
Chester's favorite song to perform on stage was Papercut. He loved how the atmosphere/energy went even higher when the band started playing Papercut. Chester was his happiest when on stage performing for their fans. He really loved the fans because they helped him as much as he helped them. The music is what kept Chester alive for so long.
The lyrics actually give a good overview, how the mixure of depression and ADHD feels like
If you do homework before this kind of reaction then you Will see things differently
Im a diehard lifelong mega fan, and I thought your reaction was great. I actually feel similarly about some of the singles, I hope you give the next album Meteora a chance. Their best album is probably A Thousand Suns which is a concept album about nuclear war. The first two albums are what got me into metal though, and sparked a love for music in me when i was a child
As much as I love and appreciate the role Hybrid Theory and Meteora played in my life, my favourite LP album has to be A Thousand Suns; despite absolutely hating the first single on a first listen. I since changed my mind 😂 ❤
@@ancatdal I honestly hated the whole album until I gave it like four or five listens, it's one of my favorite albums of all time now.
@@MaddSpazz2000 I didn't HATE the whole album, but I was disappointed at first, and so frustrated because I really didn't want to be disappointed in my favourite band! Then one day I listened to it while lying down, eyes closed, and I had the most amazing listening experience, like I was taken on a dreamlike journey as I progressed through the album. The more I listened to it, the more I liked it, and the more I liked it as a whole piece of art. And I love that the band gave me that experience, because it has made me far more open-minded to music today ❤️
To get the full effect on the song A Place for my Head watch Live in Texas. Chester goes crazy but in a good way. It has things that were not recorded.
A lot of their songs sound different when heard live because a lot of the time the rock element was more prominent when they were performing live.
As a huge LP fan, I subscribed to your channel because I actually liked your reaction. You displayed your thoughts more widely compared to other reaction vids that say "THIS IS GREAT" and that's pretty much it. No offense to Korn, Slipknot but Linkin Park got me into raprock and nu metal, probably electronica and screaming vocals. I think what you refer to their lyrics being written by a junior high student mean they're more relatable to the younger generation to me. I like simple lyrics too. It stays with you more. Linkin Park has been called by the media as a nu metal boy band in their earlier years but Linkin Park has never once claimed to be a nu metal band. If you listen to more of their later albums, you wouldn't think they're a nu metal band at all. Chester had one of my favourite voices and Mike is a multitalented artist
"linkin park hater" 4:33 💀
He didn't even last 10 seconds haha
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this album, for sharing them honestly, and for trying to keep an open mind.
It was interesting watching this and absorbing everything you said, while trying to mind my defensive gut reactions ❤😂
Especially after Chester's passing, I've found myself more sensitive to certain criticisms, but it's something I'm trying to keep under control, because people should be able to express their genuine views, even if they press my buttons, and I do want to hear them rather than some bullshitting!
That all said, I do want to just share some of that frustration.
Lyrically, Linkin Park tried to take their own experiences, condense them down, and write about them in a way they felt was more universal. The result was lyrics that many could relate to, from people going through debilitating mental illness to teenagers naturally struggling with adolescence.
A criticism I can easily understand is people finding their lyrics "too universal", because that can come off as being watered down or shallow.
I think the criticism that gets to me is when it seems that people confuse the appeal to teenagers with the lyrics being about "teenage angst", especially when people assume it was written deliberately to cater to teenagers. If I viewed the songs through that lens, I think I'd find many of the lyrics cringe as well. I came to the songs as a teenager developing mental illness to the point where I couldn't leave the house, and oftentimes couldn't fall asleep unless sleeping in my parent's bed, at the age of 14-15. I learned about the band, and especially the absolute hell that Chester Bennington had gone through, and was grateful of how they had taken their pain, and translated it to something I could understand.
So when people mock the band as a "boyband for angsty teenagers", I get this overwhelming sense of injustice. Chester Bennington went through 6 years of sexual abuse from the age of 7, years of being bullied to point where schoolmates remember him as "that bullied kid", doing coke and meth at the age of 11 and struggling for the rest of his life with substance abuse; and managed to use music as an outlet and dared to share his vulnerability with the world ... and then it got mocked and written off as "just angsty".
So I do really appreciate you apologizing in advance, and showing some understanding despite your own dislike, because otherwise I probably couldn't have made it through the video.
One thing I will personally grant you is that In The End is, imo, overrated. I actually cringe at it too sometimes, despite it being quite the anthem at concerts.
Mike's rapping has often been criticized for lacking flow and being too polished, and that's again a criticism I can understand. But for me personally, him being so clearly understood (lyrically and audibly) was a huge selling point for me in terms of appreciating rap more. All the other rap I had heard up until then had seemed incomprehensible to me, apart from some "bitches" and such understood here and there; it seemed like just misogyny and macho bullshit, and I dismissed the whole genre as such. Hearing first Mike rap, and then hearing their collaboration with Jay-Z, made me see there was more to it than that (even if there was some "bitches" in Jay-Z's stuff too, but there was more as well!). I'm grateful for that eye-opener, and I do actually like a good bit of Mike's rapping, even if there are moments when I cringe too.
If you've somehow managed to read this wordy comment (I'm sorry!), then I just want to say thank you again, and I hope you'll be up for hearing more.
I really hope you might be up for listening to their album "A Thousand Suns". It's somewhat controversial, but also considered perhaps their best album by many; and it's certainly my favourite album. And importantly, it's really, really best listened to as a whole album.
In contrast, I'd be fine if you didn't listen to the entirety of Minutes To Midnight, because I think you might despise a fair deal of it, but "Given Up" for example would be a must given your reaction here, and I'm sure it will be recommended.
Hope you had some fun at least doing this, and I hope to see more honest reactions from you!
I started this reaction series knowing I was gonna get a lot of hate, so I really appreciate you! I will check out their other stuff too eventually!
@@Rantz199X Looking forward to it!
Linkin Park is my favorite band,and its not even close. That said, I think "One Step Closer" and "Crawling" are the worst songs to pick from that album (although the Reanimation version of Crawling is 100x more interesting).
Papercut live is incredible. LP live in general is incredible.
I'll admit their lyrics earlier on were more juvenile, but they did mature with age.
Favorite heavier songs later on include "Guilty All the Same" and "A Line in the Sand" off of The Hunting Party.
Minutes to Midnight and A Thousand Suns are my favorite albums.
Guilty All the Same is underrated.
Hunting Party was the one album where I didn't like every single song on the album...but they eventually grew on me.
I love LP but I’m also not a big fan of the studio Crawling version. The live video they put out from the “one more light” tour where it’s just him and piano and the fans gets me every time tho
this video is funny as fuck😂
I can understand not liking Linkin Park, but zoning in on the lyrics specifically seems really weird to me, especially for someone who liked older iterations of Nu Metal.
I respect his honesty but I feel like he's coming at lyrics because he actually likes it and just wants to hate it
I respect you, but linkin park has alot of poetry. The paper mike shinoda mentioned in forgotten to me means the paper flies in the wind until its imperfect. The paper being the memory. It flies away causing it to be forgotten. Hints the name of the song. So it is metaphorically talking about forgetting past memories. Thats just one song. Listen to all lyrics
Bro, your honesty is so refreshing and soooooo fucking hilarious at the same time, you remind me of myself in so many ways, when I listen to new music. CHEERS MY FRIEND
TL:DR My man just doesn't like some lyrics, probably because he stigmatised them long in the past and never actually revisited after until now. (as far as I understood) After listening, he admits that he likes some tracks, and the ones he doesn't are just his personal taste thing.
(Also I found it hilarious how he gets tormented in the beginning of One Step Closer)
Agreed. The amount of pain he showed was melodramatic.
It is understandable to cringe if you just heard someone write these songs to sound hip but if you actually consider the fact that the singer went through rape and was homeless in his teens it kind of makes sense. It just depends on experiences. Its kinda like if Eminem was more vanilla his lyrics would be weird. But considering he basically lived in the hood makes it different compared to other white rappers.
Damn Linkin Park fans found this and are coming after you 😂 I honestly really appreciate your open-mindedness and perspective. Props to you for giving it a listen. I think this album is definitely something that takes multiple listens. Linkin Park is a very diverse band and in reality they only got better as they continued to make music. Their music only became more diverse and intricate. Yes they obviously changed the trajectory of rock music and they’re a huge part in today’s “genreless” scene that has so many elements and influences. Linkin Park is full of very talented musicians.
Well no one can deny that this mix of rapping rock and electronic vibes is what makes LINKINPARK so succesful. It gets many people into rock music
Between the two, I think Meteora is the better Linkin Park experience overall. But Hybrid Theory is still a fantastic album regardless.
The only tracks I can't fully get behind are "One Step Closer" and "Crawling" due to how insanely overplayed they are, And Runaway because of how by the numbers it is for not just Linkin Park standards, But Nu-Metal standards in general.
I'm more of a 2000's Nu-Metal (And Post-Grunge) listener, So Linkin Park speaks to me far more than any of the first wave bands did. Though of the first wave I think Korn, Powerman 5000 and Godsmack are my favorites.
I'm a big Linkin Park fan and I always find it interesting to see different people's opinions. I appreciate your honest review and gave you a thumbs up for it.
I'm glad you liked most of their less well-known and played tracks. I too know how it is to hear something, or watch something, when we're younger, in a different place and time and as that version of ourselves to dislike or hate something because it doesn't resonate with us at that time of our life. Sometimes it's impossible to ever like that thing as a result in the future.
I'm glad you gave Linkin Park a chance and was able to hear most of their best works on this album which were too raw for mainstream radio.
The other commenters should have watched the whole video before hating on your review. It's a little hipocritical, actually. Come on guys, open up and free your minds. lol Life's to short to hate on other people for being real instead of lying to you. Isn't that part of Linkin Park's message?
Keep doing what you do, keeping it real.
I love Linkin Park but my least favourite songs are definitely In The End, Crawling and those radio type singles. I think you'd love Meteora more than Hybrid Theory and subbed in case you react to that one!
Which is funny, because the band as well (or at least Mike Shinoda) doesn't care for those songs either lol. Mike ranked Papercut higher than any other song on HT in his own personal list.
@@lry8133 I seen that video Mike ranked all the songs, he said By Myself and Forgotten are their worst songs and I hated that because those are two of my favourites on Hybrid Theory
I actually think the guy needs to take a chill pill, turn off as much of his perceived view as possible, and just without overanalysing listen to minutes to midnight.... that is a very experimental phase :D and it might be so much different that whoi knows.... u might enjoy it
The people at record labels who produced the music were interested in the commodification of teenage angst. They have been for a very long time. I think what's clear from the facts, is that for Chester it was something more than commodification. I would also suggest that the obsession the younger generation has with 'cringe', IS itself extremely 'cringe'. Life isn't a meta-analysis. Occasionally, just being who you are is preferable to constantly trying to anticipate other people's perceptions of who you are.
"the voice is like backstreet boys" REALLY??????? I LOVE BOTH BANDS BUT BRO COMMON, ITS NOT THE SAME
I don't get what your issue is with the lyrics. It's like you're hearing something different from what everyone else is hearing. It's like Linkin Park is playing but you're hearing Simple Plan. Like you built up some idea of what LP is and you can't see past that idea. Like it's not the music itself you have a problem with, but some abstract idea of it being mainstream and therefore bad. Even though it only became mainstream after the fact, and when they were making the album they had to fight the label on everything because the sound was too innovative and not mainstream at all. The label tried everything to get them to not make that album, and they did anyway and it blew up, and after that the label wanted to make everything else sound (superficially) like it.
This is a guy who heard how bad linkin park was for so long he started to believe it.... but never listened to or read the lyrics
Linkin Parks album Hunting Party is a love note to all of the 90s numetal you’re referring too. The lyrics are definitely more mature as well. With guest appearances by Paige Hamilton from Helmet, Tom Morello, as well as a member from System of a Down.
The Hunting Party is fantastic
Imo they cleaned up their act a fair amount lyrically on their 2nd album Meteora you should listen to it to see how it compares to hybrid theory
I appreciate you listening to the full album despite the clear bias before listening.
So many people say they "hate" something but aren't willing to actually try it. Whether it's music, food, experiences, etc.
My logic with music is that I will try anything at least twice. There's a lot of music I don't like on my first listen but it grows on me.
It seems your biggest issues with the band are rooted in the lyrics and slower/more mainstream songs which is fine. We all have our preferences.
I do think you'd enjoy some of their mashups from Reanimation or some of their heavier songs off later albums like Bleed it Out and Given Up.
Meteora as a whole is also a great album.
Their live performances are also arguably better than their studio recordings.
To give you another perspective in all his songs he's basically calling for help and committed suicide
Cant you appreciate that his voice is able to sound "backstreet boyish" while also pulling out some of the best screams in metal?
You really cant name many metal singers who also have a great clean singing voice?
Either way I enjoyed your sincerity, I hate fake reactions.
I hope you react to Meteora as well. I think they perfrected the formula for Meteora before they stopped makign nu metal
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As a die heart LP fan I enjoyed watching this. I can’t expect everyone to like everything I like, that’d be boring
As a fan of linkin park I'm okay with people not liking them :))
Real talk this is the first person I ever heard not like linkin park I’m not lying but they are one of the most liekable bands of all time
Same, their my 2nd fav band of all time
Listen to the lyrics, and you’ll understand how sad Chester’s life was.
The lyricism relates to anyone who been through shity upbringing and abuseive relationship ect the lyricism for this album hit home for me
LP were absolutely not nu metal. They were a hip hop group. They used rock instruments, but their background was hip hop, and that's the foundation their early work was built around.
People who listen to them expecting rock or metal will never grasp what they were doing. They tend to look at the rapper of the group as a distracting gimmick added on top of the music, when he's actually the creative mind behind every note and every word.
You might get a better idea of them by listening to some of their music from before this album.
you're targeting the cringe lyrics cs they feel overdramatic, reason being they were overplayed by angst teens going through their own phase of struggle which tbf were prolly tad dramatic, maybe, or at worst they went through depression or something. but something you need to remember is these were chester's voices in his head coming out through his music so those lyrics stop being cringe when they are real for a person. everyone woke up since his passing, realising almost every song he put out was a cry for help. Im a hardcore LP fan and as poppy as in the end sounds, its what got me into rock and eventually metal, so imma be a petty and say your approach to in the end & crawling made me cringe over you. hate is a strong word lol, but thats you. you do you mate. hopefully meteora reaches your tastes but ik you gon hate numb cs of their mainstream popularity.
I appreciate and admire your honesty
You’re truly sick to dislike Crawling!
I agree with what you said in the end (no pun intended) with it being not for you. Linkin Park just doesn’t hit the same for people who haven’t been truly depressed, which is definitely a statement. The simplicity is made so anyone can interpret it into their own lives which is pretty cool. Personally I love this album, with bias of being a Linkin Park fan. On top of that these songs are more chilling knowing that Chester Bennington (the vocalist) had committed suicide in 2017.
I am a huge Linkin Fan, but that was not always the case. I like you sorta liked to stay in my metal niche. I was critical of bands that would show up on main stream radio. But Linkin Park opened my eyes to such a larger window of music. I like not being in on music camp. Clearly you had strong reactions to a lot of Mike Shinodas rapping. Many rappers like Jay Z consider Mike to be one of the best. The Jay Z and Linkin Park collab album was amazing. I appreciate your true and honest reaction.
Bro you really seemed to enjoy Points of Authority, I recommend you check out the version with Jay-z! It's a mash up between points of authority and one step closer riffs with Jay-z's 99 problems on top.
LinkinPark is just so good at what they do period
Lol LP is my fav, this was a rollercoast, thanks for giving them a second chance
now my other fav band people hate more than LP, Imagine Dragons. ha, ha, ha.
that band will definitely be covered on this channel at some point. many people talk crap about that band, but i haven't actually heard them.
Breaking Benjamin is definitely not Nu Metal. They are Alternative. There is no DJ so...plus Linkin Park wasnt the problem. They saw that everyone was making the same song in terms of writing and were the first to talk about feelings. The bands that came after tried to replicate it which means they kind of oversaturated the market with it. If you think about it Linkin Park tried something new and others tried to copy it. But Linkin Park stayed relevant while most of the bands died out which shows you the difference. Most Nu Metal bands were trash tho. But its mostly because they just copied eachother and had weird vocal styles
I highly recommend listening to their Live in Texas full concert performance. It may actually change your mind on some of the songs you didn't like as much.
They were the first band that introduced heavy music to me. Thanks to them, I met a lot of great bands in almost every branch of rock music. And yes, I agree that there are two periods for this group, the first albums brought something new to the genre. the second period was commercially successful and aimed at the masses. But there's nothing wrong with that, Linkin Park has entire albums of grate hits. p.s: If Linkin Park didn't exist, Jay Z wouldn't have a feat with the new metal band. Maybe then Lil Peep wouldn't exist
Maybe you should listen to 1 of the remixs of One Step Closer because it is done with Jonathan Davis. There are 2 versions of the Reanimation mix of One Step Closer. If you want to watch a live performance with Jonathan Davis they did a tour with Korn in 2004.
I really think your opinion on the singles is tainted by memes, jokes, as well as having heard them too much. I think because of that you are going into it with a bias that you can't help. I dont listen to in the end anymore either just due to having heard it too much, but its an undeniable great song. The fact that you like some songs just shows that you have a bias when it comes to the singles. Good video though
Dude said on crawling Chester sounds like a Backstreet Boys lmaooooo
As a hardcore fan, honestly, One step closer is not one of my favourites, there's many more LP songs that I prefer, like for example the next one, With you, which is probably my all time favourite. I used to feel a bit like you concerning the rapping, and I felt like Shinoda improved with the time, and anyway it's better when heard live.
P.S. I think the goal of first time reactions is exactly not to know what to expect, not to know whether you like the song or not, so just keep being honest ✌
Another P.S. Pushing me away reanimation version is more like your tastes I think. Another song I think you'd like is Reading my eyes live version
✔️ claims to hate LP
✔️ admits to never listening
✔️ Hears the literal first song of their literal first album
✔️ Claims it feels like it's not LP
😂 Sure mate, I'm sure by now we are all agreeing you're an authority on what LP sounds like 🤣
Do you operate only on strawmen? seriously. Who tf claimed that he is an expert on LP?
@@drewblackmatter6669 Is any of those points above false? Did I say he claimed he was an expert on LP? 😂
I'm pointing out the cognitive dissonance of someone who claims he hates something he obviously doesn't even know, as demonstrated by him not knowing (and even liking) the very first song of the very first album, not some obscure underground track, and claiming it doesn't sound like them as if he'd have a clue.
In other news, you don't seem to understand what a strawman is, but that's besides the point 😅
@@kyushirokun you stoped at some point and completely ignore he described well what he liked and disliked in each songs....fans like you make us look like retard seriously....
I grew up listening to Linkin Park, but I can agree with some of the points you made. I appreciate your honesty.
Damn you really just hate Chester. Unlucker =[
It's funny how Linkin Park fandom is mostly like "well, we all have different opinions".
Imagine posthumously hearing a man's expression of his pain and depression and going like "it's cringe", takes a special kind of person 😅
uh, people still make fun of Crawling my dude. Its kind of a huge meme for its time. Chester wrote that in his 20s and died in his 40s. You really think these two times where remotely comparible? He himself made fun of it on interviews.
@@drewblackmatter6669 the guy who wrote a song about depression killed himself because of his depression. If you can't fathom the link that's a you problem my dude. And the amount of time in between isn't relevant because from crawling to given up to heavy depression was always a huge theme of his songs. Was the scope of it different at different stages of his life? Probably, but again irrelevant.
Also guess you never heard of self deprecating humor as a self defense mechanism? 😅
As I said, a special kind of person.
@@kyushirokun Maybe it was, maybe it wasnt. What does it matter why he made fun of it? I make fun of myself all the time, including my art creations. From names, to themes. There comes a point in time where you as an artist just wanna have fun with yourself instead taking things seriously. I never said there was no link to what Chester did and the lyrics of his songs. That's something you fabricated at random because you had no valid point against me. My argument is that as good of a song Crawling is, it really is a product of its time. A staple of early 2000s angst. Hence why it is synonymous with meme culture. Nobody writes songs like that anymore and nobody listens to them. That's just a fact. Yes, LP's songs had arguably darker themes as they moved on, but overall no song sounded like Crawling or Numb. Because once again, they are products of their time.
@@drewblackmatter6669 "Chester wrote that in his 20s and died in his 40s. You really think these two times were remotely comparible?"
you are the one dissociating Chester's early lyrics with his ultimate passing. The lyrics and style being outdated doesn't change the fact you are potentially laughing at a dead guy's early cry for help, regardless of how you try to justify it
@@kyushirokun just let people feel whatever they feel about art, if he found it cringe, you can't reproach it to him, it's his fucking emotions, maybe he can't understand what the artist is expressing because he didn't live the same life, for him venting it so dramatically is cringe, the tolerance to emotions being expressed is variable from culture to culture, time to time, age to age etc....
breaking benajim is hardly nu metal, but your entire conversation is so correct lmao. great reaction
hey im a linkin park fan since i was 5 years old and my brother 10 years above me bought all those records, im 28 years old now, and who cares but i really enjoy your video i rather someone who listened all and didnt like it for their own reasons that someone who listened in the end and loves linkin park. it may be sound weird but some of these songs really had help me a lot throught my depression and other stuff, i think you could enjoy a lot of these songs if you dont think about they are linkin park :)
Long time LP follower. I can appreciate that a lot of the singles and more popular songs aren't necessarily going to be favorites, I do think a lot of their lesser knowns would be more likeable for non LP fans. Also glad you commented on Chester's vocals. He was an amazing vocalist.
I will also add, LP evolved A LOT over the 20 years they were active. After Meteora it felt like their 'style' was constantly evolving. My favorite album is A Thousand Suns which is pretty much a concept album, but wasn't as well received when it first came out. It is lyrially much, much stronger than Hybrid Theory. Basically after Meteora a lot of people stopped being avid fans because they were adamant they return to their Hybrid Theory/Meteora sound. They have such an interesting sound progression. People were PISSED after their more 'pop-like' sound in One More Light. Lyrically though, even if it's a pop sound it's pretty damn raw even without the screamo influenced vocals.
i agree. 90s nu metal was better. you like snot and (hed) p.e. right? however, linkin park still stood out in the 2nd wave
I've been meaning to check out hed pe! friends that know my music tastes have often recommended it to me!
@@Rantz199X i'm telling you man. they were the band that created bands like bizkit. but they were less cringy more serious and had more funk reggae and musical talent. they didn't make it far bc of a bad record contract. start with the first album and just listen to that. then the second album. but ik it might be a lot to ask. but PLEASE give us some (hed) p.e. reaction. there's not enough of them and people really want some (hed) p.e. reactions on youtube. at least react to serpent boy, ken 2012, bartender, waiting to die, R.T.R, Pay me, ground, circus (for sure that one) and 33. chester from lp loved them and tried to put them high but it just didn't work bc of politics
Linkin Park was making music as early as 1998 😅when they were called Xero then hybrid theory and finally LinkinPark as we know today
I highly suggest Linkin Park - Qwerty. Chester Bennington - System (this one was a Jonathan Davis song). And The Meteora album (Which is heavier than this album). And not to mention their cover of Nine Inch Nails - Wish live in Rock Am Ring 2004.
I think for coming into this with the previous mindset of not liking them at all, you did great. Pick any band you want, even the biggest fans will almost always have atleast one or two songs that they just don't like.
You made some jokes and laughed at some parts, but overall you had a very open mind and found some songs that surprised you. Looking forward to hopping right on over to your live LP video.
Good review overall. As a LP fan of a long time, I found it to be down to earth, you know your sound and your vides, so bias makes sense in some of their music. I would love to listen/watch you do a Meteora listen of LP, 2003. Also the live performances add more of a visual, emotional and auditorial perspective. That is if you want the music in a more "raw" format, I prefer the live version actually. Being able to immerse yourself into Chester's vocal talent and capacity, and to see how much he feels his lyrics. Meteora is a bit more, heavy on things. Given Up is one of my favorites.
Thanks for the experience and perspective from the other side, RANTZ! I'm curious to know more of what you normally listen to, or what's a normal sound to you. :)
Loved it! I were one of the teens whos life was safed by this album 😂 and i really appreciated to saw the very first time a music reaction that I really could belief was real on YT ever!!!!!! Pls stay real!
PS: I really hate HIM and especially Ville Vallo
Great channel and your emotions are real rare to see these days
I get ur opnion but react to some live footage cus they are the best at live,chester energy on the stage is next level,and his voice is amazing ✌️
And if you loved the screams,i cant imagine what u will see if you watch faint 2007 rock am ring live,one of best singers in our generation no doubt
a thumbs up for being real :)
Edit: this is definitely not my fav album of theirs. I like Meteora much better. But my all time fav is A Thousand Suns which doesn't seem to be too popular, but I love the message of it and the way it all connects.
Lyrics aren't cringe actually. Not opinion. Fact. For all those people that grew up with listening to Linkin Park get it. Chester's father, many of us believe, is a big time pedo! Chester's struggles/lyrics are directly due to & represent a very dark truth that some ya'll aren't aware of.🔴
I respect your opinion and appreciate the effort of opening your mind to something that you thought you always hated. if more people would do this the world would be a much better place + its awesome that you actually found some of the songs to be great
Please do a reaction of Linkin park’s sophomore album Meteora next.
If Hybrid Theory isn't for you. Try another album
That's the right way a lp fan rebuttes a haters argument
Não importa o que digam, pra mim é a melhor banda do mundo e revolucionou a música.
O cara não gosta , faz parte
LP always had darker lyrics than most, but after Chester died you realised they were an insight into his mind & the depression he struggled with all his life - started off 'yeh, dark shit, cool !!', now it's more poignant with hindsight.
Musically, they always barked with the big dogs, no doubt - they definitely were more commercially acceptable - amazing it was so commercial given the themes within...
Can't stand 'Purists/Absolutists' in any walk of life, let alone music, we all have guilty pleasures in music we'd be ashamed to admit - but you like what you like, despite yourself.
The fact they blended hip-hop, rap, metal, scratching & anything else that walked in the door brought the purist haters out in force, but the melodic & rhythmic depth as well as the topics they wrote about couldn't be ignored. Every genre starts off as a new twist/blend on previous one(s), once it gets established, your a heretic for daring to stray, and on, and on, and on...
You should check out the LP/JayZ collab, just shows how versatile the band were, willing to expand on their songs.
Thank you for being honest, quite rare nowadays. It's also refreshing to see gatekeeping elitists go into remission lol
Would love to see you react to some of their heavier stuff
QWERTY (Summer Sonic Tokyo 2006)
Given Up
Faint Live at Rock am Ring 2007 (if you're not planning to do Meteora and even if you do, I'd check it out, one of their best live performances)
Their lives are also heavier and almost always better than the studio version, Live in Texas DVD is really good.
As for the bands that I hate --- gotta be Imagine Dragons and 21 pilots, they take the cake.
Imagine Dragons is a band I've been considering!
Keep it real man. You have an interesting perspective to share. You don't dislike the band just to dislike it. The way i see it is that you've been conditioned to dislike some specific songs and never gave a piece of mind to the rest, which is fair, i've been there.
The lyrics are very angsty teenager oriented in my opinion, which was the target audience at the time. And I was one of those teens.
I opened my Rock/Metal pandora's box when i first heard 'With You', so, in your own words, my viginity was taken with one of their songs.
The great thing i've learned from listening to Linkin Park is appreciating different genres of music, well... most.. cause who tf listens to mumble rap...
Anyways, regardless whether people like Linkin Park or not, a lot of the bands we love and listen to today were influenced by them in one way or another.
The thing with the Linkin Park hate is because of how mainstream was, I mean, in my country, Rock is not that big genre and even here everybody was singing In The End, you would see any cassette mix with some salsa, bachata, merengue, then randomly comes In The End and then get back to a salsa lol
When I started listening to Linkin Park people would call me a poser because "everybody knew Linkin Park and it was just a mainstream band that should have disappeared in their second album"
you have already decided to hate Linkin Park before hearing their music, doesn't make you popular or get views that is what you are trying to gain. LP is the reason people like me love Rock Music. First, empty your mind then listen.
That really wasn't the point of the video -- emptying his mind. Just wanted to tell everyone how awful he thought LP was.
@@naynay3710 That everyone you are talking about later you will find out that they just love LP.
I'm a fan of extreme metal, from Bloodbath to Analepsy, and the band that brought me to where I am today is Linkin Park.
I watched your video from start to finish, I didn't agree with a lot of the points you mentioned about grunge at the beginning of the video, and I was a bit put off, but I kept going until the end.
Throughout the video I understood your perspectives and even started to like your reactions, I was very curious to know how you would react to Cure for The itch, and I loved it.
Very good video, you seem like a cool guy, and there are many curiosities that I would even like to talk to you about Hybrid Theory.
From Chester not wanting In the End on the album, to Mike almost being kicked out of the band, to the band being forced to rewrite songs more than 50 times because their producer wanted simple lyrics (For perspective, compare the lyrics of Easul and Place for My Head, or even Untitled with In the End, which is why you find some lyrics quite mediocre).
Anyway, if I could, I'd make a video with you just talking about this kind of stuff.
I loved your video, you've won a subscriber.
Keep up the great work, and Cheers!
Same here... Linkin Park was my starting point to get to bands like Lamb of God, Trivium, Jinjer, Gojira that I listen and enjoy thoroughly nowadays
appreciate what your saying, dude, and understand how you feel -- tbh the first time I heard LP and other NuMetal or whatever bands, the sleek feel of the metal sound pissed me off and put me off: it all seemed so clean and over-produced and the sharp, grunge/metal rawness of the music smoothed out. And the melody lines seemed to fall on the pop side of things, with the cleanness of the voices suddenly becoming death metal fry screams just didn't hit me as being authentic. I fell in love with metal and rock in the early 90s and then gradually phased out of listening to it probably around 1999ish - as I fell into listening to other genres more. So, I completely missed LP. Perhaps, heard them in passing, but just switched my mind off to it all for the reasons stated above. Now. I am revisiting it 20 years later, my pre-conceived ideas along the lines of: wtf, this isn't metal, long forgotten. I stumbled on this band LP after watching Chester Bennington perform a duet with Chris Cornell, and I thought if CC loves this singer so much, and I love CC, then maybe I should check them out and give them a proper listen. AFTER learning that the singer, CB, allegedly killed himself, at the peak of fame, having everything in terms of material success going for him, wife, child, one of the most popular band in the world, creative outlet, all the money he would ever need, to then be found dead, and for that death to be ruled as suicide, makes THE LYRICS HIT A WHOLE LOT DEEPER. It makes you think that every single word WAS COMING FROM A PLACE OF DARK AUTHENTICITY....and like you said the music is good. Actually, in my opinion, the riffs, the composition, the sound, all of it is better than good: it is fking brilliant. I am now a convert. He who has 'ears to hear', brother. I didn't. Now I do.
@oneeyedkrow5633 Thank you for opening up your ears, mind and heart. We truly very much need more people like you in the world. 🤗💝
As much I appreciate your opinion, you obviously don't understand the lyrics. They're definitely not about virginity and much more serious
I'm not that guy but maybe show this album to a friend that has trubbles and see what they say
btw linkin park - runaway its catchy ... like you'll sing it in the shower
I've been a fan since one step closer dropped. I get what your issues are with the songs you don't like. Lyrically this album isn't the best, I think they were really hamstrung by their label into making what they wanted them to make for commercial reasons and after this album had the success it did they were able to be a little more what they wanted to be. I think with almost any music once you've had an opinion about it, it is really difficult to change that opinion. I think you should definitely keep going down the rabbit hole with them. Their lyrics, sound and overall vibe changed and got better as the years went on.
Hey yo, this is an LP Super fan sending this comment.
I've seen that people in the comments aren't too happy with your takes, and they probably feel offended. Which imo is fucking stupid. You were only sharing some opinions, with often times (i find) a good amount of validity. So for a change, i just wanna dive deep into some of your arguments, instead of mindlessly bashing you.
1: Yes, the rapping in some ways does not fit. Its pretty much crumpted in a lot of the times. However, the way that i see it, its like two different voices calling out. One is very much slow, weighted down by its emotions or just at the verge of unleashing them (Chester), while the other is more sporadic, more agetated, and very much unleashed (Mike). They essentially compliment each other in the most uncanny way possible. Now, is that a GOOD way to make a song? Probably not. If you are a rapcore/ Nu metal band, you should probably just do screamo rapping or pure rapping, with some screaming here and there. I can't imagine any other band doing what LP did, but that is why it works for them, and them only.
2: The lyrics are not only simple, some of them are in fact reused across both Hybrid Theory and Meteora. In Meteora you had two songs that had the words ''Anymore, ignore, heal, feel, real'' Two songs that had the word ''numb'' . As much as i love all of their songs from these two albums, i can't help but agree that that's valid criticism on your behalf. Only thing im going to say though, is that at the very least, the songs themselves have entirely different tones, to where its excusable.
3: I get it. You are not very into melodic sounding metal, which is fine. Im the exact opposite personally, and i overal prefer metal that tries to be softer on the ears without needing to blast off screams in your ears for 90% of the song. Not saying i don't like screaming, because i really do. I listen to stuff like Cannibal Corpse, Cattle D, Advent Sorrow, and am very much a fan of sludge, doom metal. I can appreciate a song that properly utilises screaming and harsh vocals correctly. However, when it comes to stuff like Metalcore, its either make it 100% screams or make it a mix of both. And imo, if you are not Killswitch Engage, you should refrain from doing the whole ''good cop, bad cop'' vocal style, because its tiresome, if not predictable.
For LP, i can definitely see that lyrically and vocally wise, they lean more on the melodic side, and use screams only when its needed. Which imo keeps the songs different from one another, and you never feel like you know what you are gonna get. One time it might be Chester screaming in your ears, another time it might be some soft sung melody, another time it might be exclusively freestyle, another time it might be freestyle mixed with screaming, you get the point. This may not be for everyone really, because metalheads have entirely different taste. Some prefer melodic stuff, some heavier stuff, some are crazy enough to listen to goregrind, others might think that Slipknot is ''the heaviest band in existence.'' We all have preferences, there's really nothing wrong with your takes, i feel.
4: I can see what you mean by comercial, but i feel like that's not so much a product of LP itself, so much as it is a product of the industry keeping a gun to their heads about ''How they should write their songs.'' If you listen to their demos, you'll notice that not only are they heavier, they are also much, MUCH better lyrically wise. Especially their unreleashed tracks.
For me, LP isn't really a ''Nu metal'' band or metal in general. They are more hip hop/techno with a mix of rock. The thing that makes their sound so iconic is the fact that they utilise electronic sound and beats in conjunction with drums, bass, and guitar. Instead of making a rock song, then trying to randomly insert rapping and electronic bits here and there. Songs like Crawling, One Step Closer, and even Papercut, have quite the easy riffs, but you do not notice or think about it when they're blasting off banger beats and sounds along side those simple riffs. Hence, why it is effective. Their album Reanimation which essentially turned most of their HT songs into techno remixes is an example of how they would sound with little to no guitar riffs attached. Surprisingly, their sound and heaviness is very much retained, despite the lack of drums or guitar riffs.
@drewblackmatter6669 Good of you to take on the difficult task of explaining the complexities of Linkin Park's music. As a Linkin Park fan myself that was commenting, we weren't meaning to 'mindlessly bash', but only trying to defend LP and Chester, because they justly deserve to be defended. By the way, what is considered to be a super fan vs a hard core Linkin Park fan? (I consider myself to be a fairly hard-core Linkin Park fan).
Like I commented on the blink video. Linkin Parks vocal melodies too are so damn good. Vocal quality, fucking immense.
But god damn do I agree that their lyrics are fucking beyond cheesy.
One of my utter favourite bands. I think because I was so young 11/12 when I started listening I didn't realise how on the nose and corny the lyrics are so I'm just used to it. It's never been a problem to me. But realistically, the lyrics sound like they've been written by a 14 year old failing English in school.
He complains that Linkin Park's lyrics are cringe, and then he next tells us he likes cringe lyrics. #OwnGoal
Also... The Beatles wrote simple lyrics, are they not a good band?
@PatrickFoxGaming I have a theory that he actually kind of enjoys the music but does not know that he does. Maybe he is tricking himself without meaning to, lol.
@@DaisyDonahueI agree
I mean at least you tried bro
You talked about LP Lyrics etc like talking about depression cringe, Korn has been doing that since forever. Shit, most metal bands talk about that shit in some form. IDK, It's your opinion I can accept that, but it was very contradicting to me.
plz try with Meteora i think you will like it so much more , it is really heavier then you can watch live in texas , best live ever
I really appreciated this video and the points you bought up,
Similarly, I feel what originally put me off when listening to linkin park was the seemingly heavier usage of pop elements along with some of the rapping stuff from several songs leaning a little too far into what sonds like more of that "modern pop" for my own personal preference like in the song crawling and in the end and especially linkin park's later stuff.
it took me a few more listens for the songs to start growing on me and I can say I enjoy a good handful of songs from Hybrid theory, my favorite songs being: Papercut,
points of authority,
with you,
Pushing me away,
And "in the end"
Again I feel the rappig and the heavier pop influences where off-putting for me the first couple of times listening and so far since only just recently staryed to like hybrid theory as a pretty good well rounded album.
really liked this video 👍
And to clarify, I don't even consider myself a Linkin Park fan, I only just recently started to really dive into this album, and I enjoy it.
I even went ahead and bought a copy of the album on CD
I just now realized the amount of people people hating on you in the comments,
I just want to say, keep an open mind, I was pretty closed minded with music at one point avoiding rap and other genres I didn't like, I can always respect someone who's willing to explore around and maybe expand their music taste. I really appreciate the video :]
I don't think anyone "hates" Meatloaf but I think it's probably out of your ballpark and you'd really enjoy it.
Listening to the entire Bat Out of Hell album is an experience.
Oh yeah you are entitled to your opinion. Tbh everyone has their own taste. If you came from listening to Pantera or Slipknot this will be uncharted territory. Just like how people who think Linkin Park is too heavy would feel about Slipknot.
I always find it weird when people say LP was so mainstream when Korn was massive at the time LP hit the scene.
I don't know how linkin park comes up wwith the sweetest chord progressions..