this video has it all. over the top clickbaity title, Dual wield OP, Joe revealing that he is a power bottom and lasts longer than 35 seconds while thinking of scupper lake.. dayum boi
Don't know about you but I'd rather be somewhere else when i have 3 guys that have been shooting at me for 2 minutes straight regardless on if they even hit me. Though enough ammo at anything and the problem sort itself out.
Ok yeah but from a games perspective they definitely should rework doolies, if I take a conversion with 40rpm and then take two of them my rate of fire should be 80 cuz now I have 2 of the same pistol. I shouldn’t have a fire rate of 130rpm, you get double the ammo, more then double the fire rate, a trait to increase reload speed, you can’t ADS but you can still “ADS” with doolies.... my point is if crytek wants them in the game some rework should definitely be done, or at least allow us to “ADS” while fanning, or give us a trait that increases reload speed for single revolvers. It’s their game and I love it but come on, the dolche took how long to get its rework? do we really need to wait just as long for a rework to duel pistols?
Hey, just here to let you know that dual-wielding isn't actually *that much* RNG. The guns have a Parallax Effect going on, so you have to actually aim slightly more to the right with the left gun, and more left with the right gun. You'll find that you'll hit far more shots this way. Test it out in a Training session on a grunt at various ranges. It's a nice, realistic mechanic to balance them out, and once you figure it out, they become a lot more reliable. Most of the shots hit in and around the center of the reticle on the opposite sides of the gun firing.
And to further clarify - the reason you aim each gun slightly more to the opposite side is to actually center the shot as much as possible, as the guns are curving inward when dual wielding.
@@orewakaminoikari So presumably this depends on range then? At some point the lines of fire cross over. After that point the effect you described occurs, before that point the bullet impacts on the same side of the gun firing.
@@lewiscarter5575 Possibly, but RNGesus still exists, so, I’ve not found the actual point for it. The closer you are, the more opposite you have to aim, especially if you’re “shoulder firing” and not “aiming”. Seems about 30-40m is where it becomes a *slight* opposite correction. Tested this with dual uppers the other day and was getting over 50% hit rate on grunts past that range during tests.
@@JakeTalksGamesYT Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be a video about it anywhere yet. I don’t think it’s something anyone’s thought about testing out. Maybe 4FS will get to it one day, lmao
I only get mad when I'm 30 odd meters away and someone dual-wielding officers head shots me on their first shot. No joke happened two games in a row this morning. (Though I think the other time was silenced nagants)
Wouldn't it be great if there was a match replay feature in Hunt? You could see the perspective of every hunter after the match. You'd be able to see where such Sparks sweatlords disappear.
The more important thing about dual wielding is the frustration factor of getting randomly headshot and not feeling like it was earned. I don’t think it really has anything to do with being OP or not.
people might think I'm just a super pro, but most of my rifle headshots were in fact hipfired. Hip firing a sparks is far more reliable than dual wielding is at medium range, and the vett and mosin hipfiring is godly.
I found levering and fanning to be very helpful getting into hunt as I didn't have to think about shots as much allowing me to focus more on my decision making and movement especially in the heat of battle when your blood is pumping. Once i got those parts of the game down i stopped using them because, as you say, the inconsistency got annoying and started aiming more. If duel wielding was a thing when i started playing I'm sure i would have used it the same way i did levering and fanning so I think its a good part of the game, at least for new players.
You cruel cruel man, my face hurts from grinning, because i cant stop it while watching your videos. and they are 45ish min long, every time. Have mercy. seriously though, had me applauding loudly at 1:47 in the morning, at that white house wallbang @14:30 ish. What a show.
I love dual wield with a range long ammo using quartermaster. I have probably gotten too comfortable with that loadout and want to start trying long with just single pistol or other combos.
I have recently made an out of range headshot from Blanchett Graves that killed either Felis or the weird Sister at Lockbay Docks with a lebel marksman and an out of range headshot at the headsman who she was fighting against but couldn't give more attention to it because of nearby enemies. Would be fun to play with the sparks sniper person and just watch people panic
With such a title, I haven't even started the video and I'm already laughing my ass off 😂 that's impressive, Mike EDIT : it's only after I saw the video that I realized all clips are titled "DW OP" 😂
I have to bring light to the amazing naming of the individual video sections from Mike, that were obviously very much chosen with intent xD "DW OP x7, Sparks OP x1"
Dual wielding is so weird to me, only the regular conversions feel like they do anything, dual wielding any other gun feels nearly completely useless, however that conversion DW...be within ~20-30 meters and you murder everyone.
My ultimate CHAD hunter is Carcass Gunrunner with double dual chain pistols. One set with dum dum and one with fmj. You either destroy people or you die without a kill. There is no in between.
Its the gun handling rate, i think i have to unlock that new medium ammo gun... But double dual dudes are awesome ammobox erasors... tracking them down you have to pass truh an ammoless path...
My computer is broken rn and all I have been planning to do when I get a new one is dual chainpistols with fmj and turning a bounty compound into Swiss cheese
Love the vid ha! But the dual wield conversion pistols effective range is probably 10-20 meters max IMO. Just outside of effective shotgun range. Anything shorter and shotgun will get ya and anything longer and any medium/long range weapon will get ya.
THE LAST CLIP WAS ME AND MY BUDDY! WE'RE IN A PSYCHOGHOST VIDEO WTF GG MAN My buddy had bow I had dual Pax, he was wondering why you didnt push the hellhound pack, he shot concertina arrows to ward you off but you guys just ran back to that wagon lol. We both died to the lebel guy and we both made fun of his name "Fergal Lindsey"
If shotguns were not such trash I wouldn't take duals for close range combat. Tired of lighting someone up with 3 - 4 shot gun blasts but because they are at 16m I'm shooting cotton balls.
DUDE I ran into that solo 6 star sparks sniper in a game recently. He stalked me from where I spawned at Catfish all the way across the map until I eventually extracted at Cypress after a 45 minute game. He shot at me three times from really far away and hit me once in the chest. I couldn't understand. Still don't. 6 Stars???
long ammo sniper solos when the team they were shooting at for 25 minutes makes a push and they actually have gunfight them 😨😨😨😨😨😨😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😨😰😱😱😱😱😱😱😨😨😨😨😱😱😱😰😰😰😰😰😱😱😱😨😨😨😨
I don't know about you, but I've had fantastic luck dual-wielding the Pax / Pax Claw. For some reason (for me at least) they are super accurate, and they're one of my favourite things to use at the moment.
10:56 I almost feel would honored there... almost.... Then i remem,ber him giving me a timeout for making him a clip where he oneshotted a Nitro player with a Silent Winfield... I'll not clip for him again Unpayed at least :P
this is a medium slot weapon, it better be op. also, this, fanning, and levering were intended to be up close type of weapons. it is naturally harder to track players that are close, vs players with any kind of range. even the bornheim would be nasty up close.
I had an enemy team run double dual weild conversion's with FMJ yestarday and i was so confused when we clapped them. Guess i know where they got the idea from now 😆
Dual wielding lets you apply delightfully consistent pressure in a firefight. It's a fun way to play. Maybe a bit of a godsend for people who need a few chances to hit their marks. No loadout in Hunt can really be OP as it's currently designed, most of the game lies in the head of the Hunters.
Dual Wielding only works when it's the person shooting at you, obviously.
Yeah with first shot being a headshot at 50+ meters away
Just killed a 2.4kd in quickplay with dual caldwells from way to far away. First shot BAM headshot. I would be furious in his place 😄
@@don945646 Bro i thought this was just me. Every damn time...
Facts😆
this video has it all. over the top clickbaity title, Dual wield OP, Joe revealing that he is a power bottom and lasts longer than 35 seconds while thinking of scupper lake.. dayum boi
I'm surprised how many don't get that the title is a sarcasm joke lol - some get legit mad haha
@@PsychoghostGaming wait really? I guess some aren't as fluent in sarcasm as you Mike :D
@@_claymore i fear those who have no concept of sarcasm are missing something in the head.
Dual Wield OP, don't you remember the match with quad chain pistols where 120 bullets got like 2 hitmarkers? Dennis please.
Hope they fix this
When you crouch and wait 3 seconds the first bullet is almost near to dead center of the crosshairs. Try it 😜
Don't know about you but I'd rather be somewhere else when i have 3 guys that have been shooting at me for 2 minutes straight regardless on if they even hit me. Though enough ammo at anything and the problem sort itself out.
@@LordRazer3 couldn't have said it better myself lol
Ok yeah but from a games perspective they definitely should rework doolies, if I take a conversion with 40rpm and then take two of them my rate of fire should be 80 cuz now I have 2 of the same pistol. I shouldn’t have a fire rate of 130rpm, you get double the ammo, more then double the fire rate, a trait to increase reload speed, you can’t ADS but you can still “ADS” with doolies.... my point is if crytek wants them in the game some rework should definitely be done, or at least allow us to “ADS” while fanning, or give us a trait that increases reload speed for single revolvers. It’s their game and I love it but come on, the dolche took how long to get its rework? do we really need to wait just as long for a rework to duel pistols?
2:15 two-taps the boss with conversion pistols, cleary dual-wielding op
Yeah... Like how did that happen exactly? As a new player, this blows my mind.
Hey, just here to let you know that dual-wielding isn't actually *that much* RNG. The guns have a Parallax Effect going on, so you have to actually aim slightly more to the right with the left gun, and more left with the right gun. You'll find that you'll hit far more shots this way. Test it out in a Training session on a grunt at various ranges. It's a nice, realistic mechanic to balance them out, and once you figure it out, they become a lot more reliable. Most of the shots hit in and around the center of the reticle on the opposite sides of the gun firing.
And to further clarify - the reason you aim each gun slightly more to the opposite side is to actually center the shot as much as possible, as the guns are curving inward when dual wielding.
@@orewakaminoikari So presumably this depends on range then? At some point the lines of fire cross over. After that point the effect you described occurs, before that point the bullet impacts on the same side of the gun firing.
would you happen to have a link to a video on that? I have definitely experienced it myself but am looking for a more thorough breakdown
@@lewiscarter5575 Possibly, but RNGesus still exists, so, I’ve not found the actual point for it. The closer you are, the more opposite you have to aim, especially if you’re “shoulder firing” and not “aiming”. Seems about 30-40m is where it becomes a *slight* opposite correction. Tested this with dual uppers the other day and was getting over 50% hit rate on grunts past that range during tests.
@@JakeTalksGamesYT Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be a video about it anywhere yet. I don’t think it’s something anyone’s thought about testing out. Maybe 4FS will get to it one day, lmao
It's a game.
It’s an amazing game!
How. Dare. You.
Spooky cowboy life
That's one man's opinion
I like how Joe sounded so mad when he found out she had a lantern lol
I only get mad when I'm 30 odd meters away and someone dual-wielding officers head shots me on their first shot. No joke happened two games in a row this morning. (Though I think the other time was silenced nagants)
I'd say that's RNG. I've done it, and I've also missed that shot. Hunt RNG gods are fickle.
Hunt: "Did you dual wield?"
Mike: "Yes."
Hunt: "But what did it cost you?"
Mike: "Everything..."
I find the people who complain the loudest are the long ammo Larry's who will ditch their team to preserve their Mosin. Let them eat dirt.
I find it’s the free hunter rats that dip as soon as trouble comes with out firing a round
6:59 that was the best laugh i‘ve had in months. Just the DW OP changing to sparks OP
Gotta say, I appreciate the descriptive chapter titles. Really brings the video together
What if they introduced perk synergy? Like if you have Necro & Serpent then you can additionally loot bodies from afar or something
Nagant precision with dual conversions (fmj) is my go to cheap loadout. The precision is like a laser beam and the duals murder people up close.
Wouldn't it be great if there was a match replay feature in Hunt? You could see the perspective of every hunter after the match. You'd be able to see where such Sparks sweatlords disappear.
The first segment after the intro - The way you went into the boss lair, it feels like the beginner tutorial, dead hunters and boss health
DUEL wielding is so un reliable sometimes you get rngesus and sometimes you can have your reticle covering their whole body and still miss shots
This is accurate af. Gets you mad sometimes when you watch the replay and did everything correctly
I've had incredible luck with dual conversions. they are very accurate at the right ranges
Double dual wield conversion pistols is affectionately referred to in my group of friends as the Quadwell load out. Lol
The more important thing about dual wielding is the frustration factor of getting randomly headshot and not feeling like it was earned. I don’t think it really has anything to do with being OP or not.
Yep. Same reason so many people hate facing the compact ammo Winfields. You feel like they just kept shooting until they got lucky.
Fmj on compact ammo has more pen than long ammo at close range. The damage dropoff doesn’t start until 40m with fmj, normally it’s 20m
Really? You have a source on that? Amazing if true.
@@jamesb3497 I saw it in a Rachta Z video, and I confirmed it myself through normal gameplay and deliberate testing. It's so strong!
Love your chilled approach to the game.
people might think I'm just a super pro, but most of my rifle headshots were in fact hipfired. Hip firing a sparks is far more reliable than dual wielding is at medium range, and the vett and mosin hipfiring is godly.
I killed a trio today hip firing a springfield with dumdum. It's so fucking accurate, one of the shots was 60m away
I found levering and fanning to be very helpful getting into hunt as I didn't have to think about shots as much allowing me to focus more on my decision making and movement especially in the heat of battle when your blood is pumping. Once i got those parts of the game down i stopped using them because, as you say, the inconsistency got annoying and started aiming more. If duel wielding was a thing when i started playing I'm sure i would have used it the same way i did levering and fanning so I think its a good part of the game, at least for new players.
You cruel cruel man, my face hurts from grinning, because i cant stop it while watching your videos.
and they are 45ish min long, every time.
Have mercy.
seriously though, had me applauding loudly at 1:47 in the morning, at that white house wallbang @14:30 ish.
What a show.
I love dual wield with a range long ammo using quartermaster. I have probably gotten too comfortable with that loadout and want to start trying long with just single pistol or other combos.
36:35 hey what those grunts doin
I’d like an extra sensitivity option specifically for dual-wield ADS as I feel like I need the sens higher when I play it
Single best intro to a youtube video to date! Great job Mike!
sparks boy is what 50% of the squads i encounter are
Ah dual wielding. Kill them in one shot? " YOU GOT LUCKY! RNG OP NO SKILL!" Kill them in more than one shot? "YOU'RE SPAMMING! RNG OP NO SKILL!"
5:06 I love that reaction 😂
I have recently made an out of range headshot from Blanchett Graves that killed either Felis or the weird Sister at Lockbay Docks with a lebel marksman and an out of range headshot at the headsman who she was fighting against but couldn't give more attention to it because of nearby enemies. Would be fun to play with the sparks sniper person and just watch people panic
That first 30sec is how DW always works for me.
With such a title, I haven't even started the video and I'm already laughing my ass off 😂 that's impressive, Mike
EDIT : it's only after I saw the video that I realized all clips are titled "DW OP" 😂
I'm surprised how many don't get that the title is a sarcasm joke lol - some get legit mad haha
@@PsychoghostGaming for real?? Haha must be newcomers to your channel 😂
Mike: „White building you say!?“
Joe:
Mike: So anyway, I started blasting (approx 14:00 to keep the akimbo „Statement“)
I have to bring light to the amazing naming of the individual video sections from Mike, that were obviously very much chosen with intent xD "DW OP x7, Sparks OP x1"
I love how in the event trailer of Hunt that the Kid and the researcher are portrayed like Doc Brown and Marty from Back to the Future 3.
always love your vids Mike
i'd love to be able to draw on the mini map, or at least set a "ping"
quad conversion fmj is unironically a top 3 loadout for me
0:06 HEY HEY HEY! It's November! 🤨
man these two are so funny together lmao
Someone brought the wrong offerings to the RNG gods. Like me every round. 😂
I heard you need to offer him the salt of your enemies' tears
Giving this a go on Console tonight, Cheers Mike
05:12 / 48:51 wow hive bomb double bang wall bang good stuff man ha ha
+36 FMJ rounds per ammo crate is so satisfying to see. Nice video!!
Have you notice at 14:50 - your second was not spend when you use dark sight?
Still goes down, was just faster than a second. The timer is probably at 4.3 or something
18:57 wait wait...what's that parkour move???
a nice one :D
Dual wielding is so weird to me, only the regular conversions feel like they do anything, dual wielding any other gun feels nearly completely useless, however that conversion DW...be within ~20-30 meters and you murder everyone.
Dual officers are p strong too
My ultimate CHAD hunter is Carcass Gunrunner with double dual chain pistols. One set with dum dum and one with fmj. You either destroy people or you die without a kill. There is no in between.
That first clip is literally me every single time I use Dual wielding. Never lucky lol
Its the gun handling rate, i think i have to unlock that new medium ammo gun...
But double dual dudes are awesome ammobox erasors... tracking them down you have to pass truh
an ammoless path...
Joe on fire with banter this ep 😂😂😂🔥
The first shotout was literaly me everytime i play dual wield lol
Squish me, mighty banhammer. Im ready.
The Ash & Ember legendary conversion pistols are so damn pretty it sometimes feels bad to pick an Uppercut.
My computer is broken rn and all I have been planning to do when I get a new one is dual chainpistols with fmj and turning a bounty compound into Swiss cheese
I must say, you've outdone yourself with the chapter titles once again!
Love the vid ha! But the dual wield conversion pistols effective range is probably 10-20 meters max IMO. Just outside of effective shotgun range. Anything shorter and shotgun will get ya and anything longer and any medium/long range weapon will get ya.
Improve that wallbanging party by equipping chain pistols in dual wielding ;D
dr hibbert laugh in the first clip though XD
THE LAST CLIP WAS ME AND MY BUDDY! WE'RE IN A PSYCHOGHOST VIDEO WTF GG MAN
My buddy had bow I had dual Pax, he was wondering why you didnt push the hellhound pack, he shot concertina arrows to ward you off but you guys just ran back to that wagon lol. We both died to the lebel guy and we both made fun of his name "Fergal Lindsey"
Aah yes the 50 billion shots missed in the intro 😂🤣😂🤣😂 the classic mosquito gang 😆
If shotguns were not such trash I wouldn't take duals for close range combat. Tired of lighting someone up with 3 - 4 shot gun blasts but because they are at 16m I'm shooting cotton balls.
dual wielding is basically the meth version of levering
DUDE I ran into that solo 6 star sparks sniper in a game recently. He stalked me from where I spawned at Catfish all the way across the map until I eventually extracted at Cypress after a 45 minute game. He shot at me three times from really far away and hit me once in the chest. I couldn't understand. Still don't. 6 Stars???
I found the range potential of duals today got a hat shot at top of tower on the church from outside the compound 😂
I remember hearing this intro song somewhere but I forgot the name of the song
Dual wield logic: Accuracy by volume of fire
hey question ! why use the crossbow instead of the bow? i feel like the bow is better in everyway
In PVP the crossbow is stronger. Reason: Shotbolt
long ammo sniper solos when the team they were shooting at for 25 minutes makes a push and they actually have gunfight them 😨😨😨😨😨😨😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😨😰😱😱😱😱😱😱😨😨😨😨😱😱😱😰😰😰😰😰😱😱😱😨😨😨😨
someone loaded Full Meme Jackets
This is amazing. I gotta try this 😂
There will be always a Derringer for the accuracy un DW loadouts :')
I don't mind Duel Wielding that much, it just means I'm missing with twice the number of bullets then I normally do
I LOVE the video name make my day XD thank you
I don't know about you, but I've had fantastic luck dual-wielding the Pax / Pax Claw. For some reason (for me at least) they are super accurate, and they're one of my favourite things to use at the moment.
Mike what skins are those for the conversions around the 2 minute area, I don’t think I’ve seen them and they look sick, thanks man.
That skin is called Ember
Ember or Ash :)
Mike and The99999th thanks for the responses much appreciated
Haha, see postal delivery time but through the Wood. FMJ OP 😀
Gramps The Old Man is a friend of mine. Odd to see that I could have been in a game with you and not known.
Ah yes the classic quadwells
10:56 I almost feel would honored there... almost.... Then i remem,ber him giving me a timeout for making him a clip where he oneshotted a Nitro player with a Silent Winfield...
I'll not clip for him again
Unpayed at least :P
why does mike use a lot of bees now compared to before (he would cycle it whenever he gets it)
what changed in the patches?
I loot them out of toolboxes, I never buy them :D
@@PsychoghostGaming oooooooh that makes a lotta sense thank you
Is FMJ on conversion pistols strong now? I am not sure I have tried it since it came out.
It's solid
Is the conversion with FMJ as good as the uppercut Mike?
Uppercut has still more velocity and more raw damage
Had some sweatlords today. Pretty annoying, but it's funny when they fail.
Oh man i remember this on stream its was a insane one
Your games with Joe are the reason I get on youtube.
Dualies wallbang, goddamn thats dirty and delicious
BIG oooof to that title my man
Good - I'm surprised how many don't get that the title is a joke lol - some get legit mad haha
One day i just realise i have about 10 uppercuts and 8 of them is contraband. Just collected from dead bodies and never use them
could you believe that my mate and i play quadra conversion pistol FMJ since 1.5?
another fantastic video which I'm going to watch immediately
this is a medium slot weapon, it better be op.
also, this, fanning, and levering were intended to be up close type of weapons. it is naturally harder to track players that are close, vs players with any kind of range. even the bornheim would be nasty up close.
Mike whyyyyyyyyyyyy! (Heavy sobbing)
The RNG of dual wield would put XCOM to shame! 🤣
I will never not love dual suppressed nagant
any fmj ammo type is equal to long ammo pen
I had an enemy team run double dual weild conversion's with FMJ yestarday and i was so confused when we clapped them.
Guess i know where they got the idea from now 😆
Dual wielding lets you apply delightfully consistent pressure in a firefight. It's a fun way to play. Maybe a bit of a godsend for people who need a few chances to hit their marks.
No loadout in Hunt can really be OP as it's currently designed, most of the game lies in the head of the Hunters.