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Filming of the 2nd season has already started in LA. Walter Goggins posted a pic of him getting his ghoul makeup applied recently and Jonathan Nolan, when accepting the award for best show adaptation at the 2024 Game Awards, basically confirmed that New Vegas was the prime location for the new season.
Most of the representatives at the meeting were featured or mentioned in Fallout: New Vegas and its DLC. The exception being the West-Tek rep, who was mentioned I believe in the very first game. His employer’s facilities were featured therein and in F76 as well.
Moldaver represented the last vestiges of the New California Republic; with the capital of Shady Sands, the city that was mushroomed by Hank in 2283 after he took his children from Lucy's mom. The examples of what could be done with the vaults were taken directly out of the games; those vaults are either mentioned in the games or could be visited. The code Hank entered at the end was an easter egg as it was the release date of the first Fallout game.
26:30 An understandable assumption that is made by non-fans of Fallout after watching the show is how Vault-Tec initiated the Great War in 2077, however, this is never confirmed, it's only ever proposed by Barb as a means to guarantee the viability of the vaults, because their existence and usefulness hinges on nukes being thrown their way, as Cooper's actor friend told him before his meeting with Moldaver. The first episode makes a great effort to show the rising tension of the pre-War days but is left in the dust afterwards and never brought back how bad it really was. The war Cooper fought in Alaska against the Chinese was one to secure oil, a precious, dwindling resource in 2077. Both America and China had nukes that were perpetually pointed at each other in the greatest game of chicken, both had plenty of motivation to make the opening strike. Vault-Tec would have been the failsafe to break flood gates. Ultimately, it is never canonically known who launched the first nukes, only that mutually assured destruction was guaranteed, and I think this ambiguity is a great boon to Fallout's storytelling, because to know who struck first would undermine plenty of stories and virtues of the overarching lore. Thanks for covering this show! It's a terrific game adaptation and I hope you get to cover more like these.
Also, would Barb have allowed the bombs to drop if she knew that Janey was still on the outside, helping her Father at the birthday party? No, especially as she was mentioned in the meeting by her Mother.
What a thoroughly enjoyable first season (series?) of Fallout. It was so immersive to tag along as you learned about the Fallout world and were pulled in by the story. If you're here to do it again when the show continues, I'll be here also. Cannot wait! Thanks, Ande! 🤗
People keep forgetting that Norm is a hacker. Remember when they had the little performance review, they revealed that he is a hacker. He can hack all their computers.
I have had fun trying to figure SPECIAL and traits & skills for some of them. Max: I'll give him 8 or 9 Agility (Bridge shootout) but about a 3 Intelligence. Norm: Yeah...Norm probably maxed Intelligence & Perception. Those can never be a bad choice. Lucy: Daddy's Girl perk. Which I think gives a science boost.
@GrumpyOldGit-zk1kw So what's your SPECIAL? Be honest.... I'll go first: Strength: 5: I'm not a really big guy but I had no problems humping 70 pound loads in the army. Perception: 2: I just don't notice stuff. Even right in front of me. Endurance: 9: There is NOTHING that ANYONE can teach me about pain that I don't already know. Charisma: 3: It's not that I'm 'ugly' or anything. I'm just not very pleasant with other people. Intelligence: ?: This one is very subjective. I know how to fly an airplane & I have a masters degree in mathematics. But I'm always asking myself "How could you be so stupid?!?" Agility: 7: I'm a little guy but I'm pretty quick. Luck: 10: The fact that I'm posting this here makes me lucky.
I think we witnessed the birth of Dark Lucy with that last "okey-dokey". I'd be perfectly happy if season 2 was just the "Lucy and the Ghoul Show". There's a big easter egg for gamers at the end with her father running to New Vegas, which was the most popular installment of the Fallout games.
@@andelain He didn't really get on my radar until Justified in 2010, 20yrs into his career. I really need to go back and look at more of his work. I highly recommend Justified, though it's definitely off the beaten path for reactions, so maybe just for yourself.
Vault would fail under ideal conditions, it's called societal sink, always ends in extinction. Or as my house said rats and up eating each other. Enjoyed your reaction to the show. Thanks for sharing 😊
Fallout: I'm tasked with finding a "Water Chip." I find it and bring it back to the vault. They take the chip then tell me to get lost. Because I did morally questionable things to get they chip. That they told me to get. Fallout 3 (Before the DLC): Can't complete the game without entering a room where you know you are going to receive a lethal dose of radiation. Fallout 4: I start out looking for my kidnapped son and end up becoming a land baron and nuking my son. This was a fun series & I think did great bringing the mood of the game to the screen.
Remember Lucy said her Dad & the vault went hungry, they had to quarantine? That's cause they'd been to the surface and he'd nuke Shady Sands, probably getting sick & contaminated from that ☢
Hi Andy! In the games many (most) of the Vaults seem counterproductive to the point of insanity. What the big honchos talked about in the meeting where Barb dropped her bombshell were all examples we had already seen in the games. (and many of the companies and owners we saw we were already familiar with.) This was a show set roughly 20 years after Fallout: New Vegas, back when the NCR was (for all it's many faults) still a powerful faction and dedicated to democracy and the rule of law. As someone who supported the NCR in my own playthrough I felt gut punched by the reveal that Shady Sands, the capital of the NCR had been nuked. The code used by Hank to unlock fusion power was the release date of the first Fallout game. "War never changes" is the mantra often repeated in the in intros to the games. At the end Hank is approaching New Vegas (formerly Las Vegas) across the desert (with a background detail of a Deathclaw skull) Descended from mutated Chameleons Deathclaws are among the toughest and most terrifying enemies a player faces throughout the series,
Just realized your intro reminds me of Imoen from the first Baldur's Gate. Season 2 is well on its way supposedly and thankfully. I'm not sure if anyone pointed out to you yet that the town that Hank is looking over at the end is New Vegas. You being a fellow gamer I highly recommend playing Fallout Out New Vegas. Everything that happens in the game would be history so it would not likely spoil anything but probably give you some cool insights. I would enjoy watching you do a play through on that as I'm sure many others would and if you're brave enough there is some cool DLC. 🤔 Are you brave enough. I'm guessing yes. Thanks for reacting to this. Looking forward to what's next.
While the Fallout TV series got many things right, like the setting, the props and the mood, it fails to tell a coherent story at all. Sadly, not much in this series makes a lot of sense when you think about it for more than a minute. Just enjoy as juicy bubblegum TV once and dont rewatch, as it will go stale very quickly.
@@lassesipila6418 I won't list the dozens of inconsistencies of the TV show here, most of them have been pointed out by others in detail already. Just this one example may suffice: the very first 'quest' that Lucy sets out to, is already a major fail. Remember how she was looking for a suitable marriage partner, i.e. one she isn't related to? (yeah, the 'cousin stuff' put in there for a cheap laugh) Well, now that you have the disclosed info about her father in the last episode, you should perhaps ask yourself how that can be, when in fact Lucy should be the LEAST related person in the whole vault, unless her dad was screwing around indiscriminately. This is just a prominent example how the show writers set out in one specific direction with the story line and after a couple more episodes had already forgotten about it due to: a) cheap, sloppy writing or b) not giving much of a damn. Most probably both.
@jwiz2974 I did ask for just one, so thanks for providing. 😃 However, I'll have to disagree on that one. Lucy's mother is from the same vault, so Lucy IS related to the people there. ALL the overseers for this triad of vaults come from the pre-war era, so if them bringing new genetic material to the pool wasn't sufficiently covered by them coming from 31, the whole shtick would've been blown the first time any overseer there had a child. This problem is clearly something that Vault-Tec handled when designing the whole thing, either the vault 31 thing covers it or they falsify the genetic data or whatever. I won't press you for another example unless if you want to give one, but based on the example given I would have to assume that you've gone into the show with a negative predisposition and you're seeing plot problems where they don't exist. Nothing wrong with that, of course, enjoy things the way you like. Or maybe this was just a bad example or maybe I got something wrong about it. Why is 'cousin stuff' a _cheap_ laugh? I thought it was pretty spot on with the way these people live (or believe they do).
@@jwiz2974 Is youtube censoring my comment or is it just me not seeing it? F those guys to d. Anyway, thanks for your example, I had to disagree since that problem would've caused the whole vault 31-32-33 thing to fail the first time an overseer had a child, so obviously they covered that when they built it, also Lucy's related to her own vault population through her mom. I think you watch the show looking for problems but that's okay, we can like different things.
@@lassesipila6418 Well, you almost had it. Just give it another thought. The overseers from Vault 31 would always be genetical outliers to the populace of Vault 32 & 33, no matter if they are deep-frozen ex-Vault-Tec executives or any other 'normal' sort of inhabitants. So, no need to 'cover up' anything about that. For Lucy to to find it impossible to have a suitable breeding partner from Vault 33, her mom would literally have to be related to ALL of the Vault 33 dwellers. Given a viable vault population of about 100-150 (maybe 200), that is just ridiculous, so the whole premise of Lucy's undertaking falls apart already at the start.
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Also, it's worth keeping an eye on my Community tab for general updates and polls, that way you help me decide what to react to in the future. 😊
Filming of the 2nd season has already started in LA. Walter Goggins posted a pic of him getting his ghoul makeup applied recently and Jonathan Nolan, when accepting the award for best show adaptation at the 2024 Game Awards, basically confirmed that New Vegas was the prime location for the new season.
Most of the representatives at the meeting were featured or mentioned in Fallout: New Vegas and its DLC. The exception being the West-Tek rep, who was mentioned I believe in the very first game. His employer’s facilities were featured therein and in F76 as well.
Vault 31 had Bud's buds. The brain was Bud if you didn't catch that.
He seems to have found his way back to being Cooper Howard, I think Lucy doing the golden rule did it.
Looking forward to season 2
22:24 *Viva New Vegas*
Moldaver represented the last vestiges of the New California Republic; with the capital of Shady Sands, the city that was mushroomed by Hank in 2283 after he took his children from Lucy's mom.
The examples of what could be done with the vaults were taken directly out of the games; those vaults are either mentioned in the games or could be visited.
The code Hank entered at the end was an easter egg as it was the release date of the first Fallout game.
In the Fallout games you encounter many different vaults and they are all carrying out inhumane and occasionally hilarious experiments.
MOST of the vaults were doing some experiments. There were a few control vaults like #101 in F3.
26:30 An understandable assumption that is made by non-fans of Fallout after watching the show is how Vault-Tec initiated the Great War in 2077, however, this is never confirmed, it's only ever proposed by Barb as a means to guarantee the viability of the vaults, because their existence and usefulness hinges on nukes being thrown their way, as Cooper's actor friend told him before his meeting with Moldaver. The first episode makes a great effort to show the rising tension of the pre-War days but is left in the dust afterwards and never brought back how bad it really was. The war Cooper fought in Alaska against the Chinese was one to secure oil, a precious, dwindling resource in 2077. Both America and China had nukes that were perpetually pointed at each other in the greatest game of chicken, both had plenty of motivation to make the opening strike. Vault-Tec would have been the failsafe to break flood gates.
Ultimately, it is never canonically known who launched the first nukes, only that mutually assured destruction was guaranteed, and I think this ambiguity is a great boon to Fallout's storytelling, because to know who struck first would undermine plenty of stories and virtues of the overarching lore.
Thanks for covering this show! It's a terrific game adaptation and I hope you get to cover more like these.
Also, would Barb have allowed the bombs to drop if she knew that Janey was still on the outside, helping her Father at the birthday party? No, especially as she was mentioned in the meeting by her Mother.
What a thoroughly enjoyable first season (series?) of Fallout. It was so immersive to tag along as you learned about the Fallout world and were pulled in by the story. If you're here to do it again when the show continues, I'll be here also. Cannot wait!
Thanks, Ande! 🤗
People keep forgetting that Norm is a hacker. Remember when they had the little performance review, they revealed that he is a hacker. He can hack all their computers.
I have had fun trying to figure SPECIAL and traits & skills for some of them.
Max: I'll give him 8 or 9 Agility (Bridge shootout) but about a 3 Intelligence.
Norm: Yeah...Norm probably maxed Intelligence & Perception. Those can never be a bad choice.
Lucy: Daddy's Girl perk. Which I think gives a science boost.
@@thecatthinks they did publish 'official' stats for them as they appear(ed) in the Fallout Shelter game.
@GrumpyOldGit-zk1kw So what's your SPECIAL?
Be honest....
I'll go first:
Strength: 5: I'm not a really big guy but I had no problems humping 70 pound loads in the army.
Perception: 2: I just don't notice stuff. Even right in front of me.
Endurance: 9: There is NOTHING that ANYONE can teach me about pain that I don't already know.
Charisma: 3: It's not that I'm 'ugly' or anything. I'm just not very pleasant with other people.
Intelligence: ?: This one is very subjective. I know how to fly an airplane & I have a masters degree in mathematics. But I'm always asking myself "How could you be so stupid?!?"
Agility: 7: I'm a little guy but I'm pretty quick.
Luck: 10: The fact that I'm posting this here makes me lucky.
Imo max has really high endurance. He gets his butt kicked constantly and just keeps going@thecatthinks
I think we witnessed the birth of Dark Lucy with that last "okey-dokey". I'd be perfectly happy if season 2 was just the "Lucy and the Ghoul Show". There's a big easter egg for gamers at the end with her father running to New Vegas, which was the most popular installment of the Fallout games.
Betty getting Introduced before Hank flew right over your head lol
😅
Of note; the cold fusion code is the release date of the first Fallout game 😯😯😯
Oh wow!
I started watching mainly because of Walton Goggins, based on his work in Justified, and it turned into so much more than I expected.
I feel like this is somehow blasphemous but I'd never heard of (or seen) Walton Goggins before watching this. 🤔
@@andelain He didn't really get on my radar until Justified in 2010, 20yrs into his career. I really need to go back and look at more of his work. I highly recommend Justified, though it's definitely off the beaten path for reactions, so maybe just for yourself.
@@andelain Goggins was also great in "The Shield" (the gritty cop show, not the Marvel SHIELD show)
Can’t wait for season two
Same!
Loved this series and I am excited about the next! BTW, love your emerald drake!
Vault would fail under ideal conditions, it's called societal sink, always ends in extinction.
Or as my house said rats and up eating each other. Enjoyed your reaction to the show. Thanks for sharing 😊
Fallout: I'm tasked with finding a "Water Chip." I find it and bring it back to the vault.
They take the chip then tell me to get lost. Because I did morally questionable things to get they chip. That they told me to get.
Fallout 3 (Before the DLC): Can't complete the game without entering a room where you know you are going to receive a lethal dose of radiation.
Fallout 4: I start out looking for my kidnapped son and end up becoming a land baron and nuking my son.
This was a fun series & I think did great bringing the mood of the game to the screen.
Season 2 was confirmed within a week of the first episode airing they are already filming it there are videos on UA-cam showing them filming.
Brilliant!
Remember Lucy said her Dad & the vault went hungry, they had to quarantine?
That's cause they'd been to the surface and he'd nuke Shady Sands, probably getting sick & contaminated from that ☢
Great reaction.. and yes, Season 2 is officially coming.
Moldaver was in love with Lucy's mother.
The code is the date fallout 1 was released
Oh the season 2 leaks are already coming out. Now the argument will be over the show getting a season 3.
Leaks already? I thought they only started filming a couple weeks ago
They are making season 2 right now and a new character is in it I won't spoil the actor
Oooh
Hi Andy!
In the games many (most) of the Vaults seem counterproductive to the point of insanity. What the big honchos talked about in the meeting where Barb dropped her bombshell were all examples we had already seen in the games. (and many of the companies and owners we saw we were already familiar with.) This was a show set roughly 20 years after Fallout: New Vegas, back when the NCR was (for all it's many faults) still a powerful faction and dedicated to democracy and the rule of law. As someone who supported the NCR in my own playthrough I felt gut punched by the reveal that Shady Sands, the capital of the NCR had been nuked. The code used by Hank to unlock fusion power was the release date of the first Fallout game. "War never changes" is the mantra often repeated in the in intros to the games. At the end Hank is approaching New Vegas (formerly Las Vegas) across the desert (with a background detail of a Deathclaw skull) Descended from mutated Chameleons Deathclaws are among the toughest and most terrifying enemies a player faces throughout the series,
Just realized your intro reminds me of Imoen from the first Baldur's Gate. Season 2 is well on its way supposedly and thankfully. I'm not sure if anyone pointed out to you yet that the town that Hank is looking over at the end is New Vegas. You being a fellow gamer I highly recommend playing Fallout Out New Vegas. Everything that happens in the game would be history so it would not likely spoil anything but probably give you some cool insights. I would enjoy watching you do a play through on that as I'm sure many others would and if you're brave enough there is some cool DLC. 🤔 Are you brave enough. I'm guessing yes. Thanks for reacting to this. Looking forward to what's next.
That's definitely on the cards for a playthrough at some point, over on Twitch! 😊
@andelain I am Wulfy69 on twitch. I am now stalking .. er following you over there as well.
While the Fallout TV series got many things right, like the setting, the props and the mood, it fails to tell a coherent story at all.
Sadly, not much in this series makes a lot of sense when you think about it for more than a minute.
Just enjoy as juicy bubblegum TV once and dont rewatch, as it will go stale very quickly.
What's your worst nonsense find?
@@lassesipila6418 I won't list the dozens of inconsistencies of the TV show here, most of them have been pointed out by others in detail already.
Just this one example may suffice:
the very first 'quest' that Lucy sets out to, is already a major fail.
Remember how she was looking for a suitable marriage partner, i.e. one she isn't related to? (yeah, the 'cousin stuff' put in there for a cheap laugh)
Well, now that you have the disclosed info about her father in the last episode, you should perhaps ask yourself how that can be, when in fact Lucy should be the LEAST related person in the whole vault, unless her dad was screwing around indiscriminately.
This is just a prominent example how the show writers set out in one specific direction with the story line and after a couple more episodes had already forgotten about it due to:
a) cheap, sloppy writing or
b) not giving much of a damn.
Most probably both.
@jwiz2974 I did ask for just one, so thanks for providing. 😃
However, I'll have to disagree on that one. Lucy's mother is from the same vault, so Lucy IS related to the people there. ALL the overseers for this triad of vaults come from the pre-war era, so if them bringing new genetic material to the pool wasn't sufficiently covered by them coming from 31, the whole shtick would've been blown the first time any overseer there had a child. This problem is clearly something that Vault-Tec handled when designing the whole thing, either the vault 31 thing covers it or they falsify the genetic data or whatever.
I won't press you for another example unless if you want to give one, but based on the example given I would have to assume that you've gone into the show with a negative predisposition and you're seeing plot problems where they don't exist. Nothing wrong with that, of course, enjoy things the way you like. Or maybe this was just a bad example or maybe I got something wrong about it.
Why is 'cousin stuff' a _cheap_ laugh? I thought it was pretty spot on with the way these people live (or believe they do).
@@jwiz2974 Is youtube censoring my comment or is it just me not seeing it? F those guys to d. Anyway, thanks for your example, I had to disagree since that problem would've caused the whole vault 31-32-33 thing to fail the first time an overseer had a child, so obviously they covered that when they built it, also Lucy's related to her own vault population through her mom. I think you watch the show looking for problems but that's okay, we can like different things.
@@lassesipila6418 Well, you almost had it. Just give it another thought.
The overseers from Vault 31 would always be genetical outliers to the populace of Vault 32 & 33, no matter if they are deep-frozen ex-Vault-Tec executives or any other 'normal' sort of inhabitants. So, no need to 'cover up' anything about that.
For Lucy to to find it impossible to have a suitable breeding partner from Vault 33, her mom would literally have to be related to ALL of the Vault 33 dwellers. Given a viable vault population of about 100-150 (maybe 200), that is just ridiculous, so the whole premise of Lucy's undertaking falls apart already at the start.