Ppl don't understand how powerful is 5% extra swing proc for warriors, combine that with Sword spec and Hoj and you are BEAST, that thing will be used at lvl 60 specially for the set bonus.
idd - its fucking horrible to look at setbonus for melee huynters - we basically get 2 setbonuses for ranged only. what melee hunter will ever use traplauncher over dw rune??
I think the hunter 3 set will work with the new pet that is being introduced in p3. So looks like we will need that pet to get the most out of the 3 set.
Thank God you mentioned this. I was panicking as a melee hunter myself. It looked like we were gonna HAVE to take trap launcher which would cause use to lose dual wield rune. I forgot about the core hound pet :)
damn, didnt think of that - u mite b right. if so, thats pretty damned good tbh. making core hound so MUSTHAVE that no other pet is an option at all. which is the opposite of what they did earlier, wanting us to use more variety in pets. now, with core hound taking mages damage and giving us 70 ap....pretty damned good. i hope i get to raid one before the nerf.
Unless multiple rogues can simultaneously apply that debuff, once again rogues get shat upon. Why can't they just give us something like homunculi-like shuriken? Give the shuriken have a 20% chance to apply each of an armor debuff, attack /spell cast speed debuff, and/or movement speed debuff to all targets down the line.
Shadow spark makes shadow cleave worth using on single target rather than just groups of 3ish, it is a solid way to toss some extra damage at the target and with the dot time of immolate, essentially you can have immolate up the whole fight if you use it as your opener.
lock tank conflag? no. you want instant spells only. which is why this buff makes a lot more sense. using incinerate for the + fire dmg should be the only cast you're throwing out, usually at the start. also soul link no longer works in meta form so demo lock tank is dead. they are pushing us into searing pain spammers. and now shadow cleave and immolate are added to that rotation.
@@doncorleone1720 yea works like 60% of the time but to keep buff up and fully stacked don't see it worth waiting globals for it when I could of just raptor striked
Unless the flight is 20 seconds long and has huge damage, no paladin will carry holy light over flash of light. FoL is too mama efficient. Especially when they get up to 70% crit chance, which means it's free, and adds a hot.
@@Valyn yeah but that crit chance is only once every 6 sec. + needs to be cast on your sacred shield target. + you want that target to have blessing of light + you now are mostly healing the person getting hit the most = which is usually the beacon target. its a lot to do. Would be nice if it could go to a more wotlk style holy light build. and downranking making HL healing more manaefficient for sod. the lorderon will now reduce 0.5 on the next two cast. but pressing that will prob use a global as well. + once you cast lorderon it take 12 -15 sec or so before you can cast it again. the new rune that will reduce HL cast by 0.5 used to stack. but its now just one stack. all in all. its looking like there will be some hybrid use of both HL and FoL going on. so there's like 8 things to set up before you can cast a spell on maximum throughput. it seems like its gonna be overly complicated. ... oh and we're supposed to hit a target with a weapon for sheath of light sp buff. while we dont have hit as healers ... judgement should be our "meleehit" like it was on wotlk. this also still isnt the case.
Nah... You still would prefer to cast Holy Light if your mana can manage, it's just big HPS. And with higher crit chance maybe no mana issues at all. We don't need to end fights with 100% mana. Just so many things wrong with attaching Horn to the benefit. First off we're never going to be in a melee group, and ok I cast my Horn so now I'm on a 1.5 sec GCD to save time on my Holy Lights. Idk, it's just stupid flavor not fun flavor.
Boooooooooooo on the ele sham set only getting nature damage, but priests, locks and mages all get +spell damage! It sucks when your biggest damage spell doesn't get a benefit from your class specific set bonus. Edit: Also, you missed that in your coverage of it lol
Can rogues get some fuckin love man, if it wasn’t for my guild I would’ve had such a difficult time finding raid groups, spent 3 hours one night LFG and never found one
Wtf is that bonus for melee hunters? They gotta make that something else other than proccing/keeping up fire damage?? Feign death can be resisted and you cant even keep it up all the time as the traps dont last long enough until the cd on feign death is off... I dont get what they're thinking. Enhancement shamans can keep this buff up just by doing their normal rotation with no downside...
@@cola33333 Or 2 hander and trap launcher rune, or just duel wield feign death, explosive trap. It does last a while cause it does a burst aoe then tic damage to enemies within radius for 12 secs and you would use it when raptor and flanking are on cooldown instead of wingclip.
It's a lvl 50 set, at 60 you won't be using this set. Hemo needs decent gear to be viable anyway. I am pretty sure they will make it a great spec at 60.
More shit for holy paladin. All they needed to do is add Beacon of Virtue. Instead we het absoltue garbage if anything at all. So far P3 will mean we have two dead rune slots that we just put tandom dps abilities instead because there is literally no healing option. Fucking trash. Problem is, there are so few holy paladins, that Blizzard doesn't even hear how they feel abandoned and ignored.
ya it's dumb, but i guess you don't technically need to use the 3 set bonus, maybe there's better gear without it...or maybe there will be a fire damage buff you can use on your weapons which will trigger it directly
Paladin, get 0.2 sec reduced cast time on their already lackluster healing, tied to a buff nobody uses. Shaman, get 100% reduced cast time to a very good heal, passive with no other requirements. It's has gone from really sad to just being straight up comical at this point.
Actually it's like 100-200 DPS off somehow with the gear I have on. Unless you SOMEHOW get a +200 SP Demonic Pact then it rivals it equally. So... in other words Ranged Hunters need to have SP consumes because of the sting LUL
Why are Blizzard encouraging a janky, player invented, mechanic like power shifting? It's such a band aid shitty cover up for the the poor design choices of the class. They had a golden opportunity with SOD to make ferals interesting and instead they are going all in on power shitfting. So sad. Luckily resto looks fun.
Yawn, making healing priests deal damage to get a healing proc, no thanks.We heal because we love healing, meh no thanks Blizz. It's bad enough that every crafted epic so far is damage + healing which ALWAYS means less healing. They give us mana issues, then want us to dps on top of healing to get a proc, what a joke.
I think immolate is 1.5 sec cast or so. or talented in classic from 2 or something dumb. when you see anything less than the 1.5 lock gcd, it makes me think pvp since time casted are equal. anyways i dont know what im saying. i love u Sarthe. lul
Cry cry cry. Is anyone looking forward to this phase? Do you just watch these videos to get mad. Last vid did not have one positive comment. This one is looking to be the same. Go touch grass.
Yeah it's actually getting sad how toxic people are being towards SoD forgetting it's an experimental server, people act like their characters will have these tier sets / talent reworks until time ends
Cmon Sarthe don't hold back. The ranged hunter set bonus is so fucking bad it may as well not even exist.
Ppl don't understand how powerful is 5% extra swing proc for warriors, combine that with Sword spec and Hoj and you are BEAST, that thing will be used at lvl 60 specially for the set bonus.
I swear no dev on this team plays a hunter
idd - its fucking horrible to look at setbonus for melee huynters - we basically get 2 setbonuses for ranged only. what melee hunter will ever use traplauncher over dw rune??
@@sebastianbergstl4423 FD into trap=) But im mostly sad for range hunters. I so badly wanna play that, so bored of being melee
I bet you can proc the fire damage with dragon breath chili so not that bad
@@phuan93oil of immo gang
Its not like hunters dont have traps.
I think the hunter 3 set will work with the new pet that is being introduced in p3. So looks like we will need that pet to get the most out of the 3 set.
Thank God you mentioned this. I was panicking as a melee hunter myself. It looked like we were gonna HAVE to take trap launcher which would cause use to lose dual wield rune. I forgot about the core hound pet :)
Does that pet have the ability to turn your hunter into a shaman? Because the ostracized set is shaman only now.
it's a good take but it's still bs if you ask me
they changed it, its now hunter tier set makes rapid fire give 10% melee haste
damn, didnt think of that - u mite b right. if so, thats pretty damned good tbh. making core hound so MUSTHAVE that no other pet is an option at all. which is the opposite of what they did earlier, wanting us to use more variety in pets. now, with core hound taking mages damage and giving us 70 ap....pretty damned good. i hope i get to raid one before the nerf.
These sets are ACTUALLY super stronk for certain specs... like they actually did class tuning with some tier bonuses
Keyword certain... Keyword some. Holy Paladins rolling over in their graves, and no they don't want to have to wear mail for a good "class" set bonus.
@@jimmymemez3977 i dont understand why they would make a dual set for pally and shamans to share makes no sense..
Unless multiple rogues can simultaneously apply that debuff, once again rogues get shat upon. Why can't they just give us something like homunculi-like shuriken? Give the shuriken have a 20% chance to apply each of an armor debuff, attack /spell cast speed debuff, and/or movement speed debuff to all targets down the line.
I mean… you have expose armor…. You technically could do this don’t blame spriest
You’re getting honor among thieves.. which means you’ll have zero issue keeping expose armor up. And afaik that armor debuff is better than Homunculi
Shadow spark makes shadow cleave worth using on single target rather than just groups of 3ish, it is a solid way to toss some extra damage at the target and with the dot time of immolate, essentially you can have immolate up the whole fight if you use it as your opener.
lock tank conflag? no. you want instant spells only. which is why this buff makes a lot more sense. using incinerate for the + fire dmg should be the only cast you're throwing out, usually at the start. also soul link no longer works in meta form so demo lock tank is dead. they are pushing us into searing pain spammers. and now shadow cleave and immolate are added to that rotation.
You guys do realize there is a hunter set which makes rapid fire usable with melee ? 10 % inc atk speed. The fire one is shaman only
Sooo no disc priest set? only for holy or am i missing something here? :)
That's a great buff for warlock tanks. Shadowcleave can also proc improved shadow bolt and help shadow priest or affliction locks pump more. Love it.
Are they going to give hunter a book to drop traps in combat if not melee hunters wont use the set they would just find something else
you can drop traps in combat with the trap luncher rune added in p2
Its not worth taking trap launcher over dual wield spec
Just feign death u dont need trap launcher
@@doncorleone1720 yea works like 60% of the time but to keep buff up and fully stacked don't see it worth waiting globals for it when I could of just raptor striked
Looks like they either dont want Resto Druids to use free Wraths anymore or the fights will be really healing intensive
Holy pala is not really fun to play and now they get some sh**?
Blizz doing a focus group on how much punishment one class can take. Taking 'martyr' to a whole new level.
Not that fun to play? They are the most boring healer in the game
Unless the flight is 20 seconds long and has huge damage, no paladin will carry holy light over flash of light. FoL is too mama efficient. Especially when they get up to 70% crit chance, which means it's free, and adds a hot.
@@Valyn yeah but that crit chance is only once every 6 sec. + needs to be cast on your sacred shield target. + you want that target to have blessing of light + you now are mostly healing the person getting hit the most = which is usually the beacon target. its a lot to do.
Would be nice if it could go to a more wotlk style holy light build. and downranking making HL healing more manaefficient for sod.
the lorderon will now reduce 0.5 on the next two cast. but pressing that will prob use a global as well. + once you cast lorderon it take 12 -15 sec or so before you can cast it again. the new rune that will reduce HL cast by 0.5 used to stack. but its now just one stack.
all in all. its looking like there will be some hybrid use of both HL and FoL going on. so there's like 8 things to set up before you can cast a spell on maximum throughput. it seems like its gonna be overly complicated.
... oh and we're supposed to hit a target with a weapon for sheath of light sp buff. while we dont have hit as healers ... judgement should be our "meleehit" like it was on wotlk. this also still isnt the case.
Nah... You still would prefer to cast Holy Light if your mana can manage, it's just big HPS. And with higher crit chance maybe no mana issues at all. We don't need to end fights with 100% mana. Just so many things wrong with attaching Horn to the benefit. First off we're never going to be in a melee group, and ok I cast my Horn so now I'm on a 1.5 sec GCD to save time on my Holy Lights. Idk, it's just stupid flavor not fun flavor.
meta tank will most likely be speccing into Affliction this phase with the nerf to both soul link and lake of fire. don't see how immolate helps.
Good to see Blizzard is still shitting all over ranged hunters. 🙄 Seriously, wtf did we do to deserve having our spec destroyed?
Lava Breath incoming for melee hunter
Hmm so who's gonna be giving up 5% wf proc chance for some block?
The block stacking seemingly uncapped for 6 sec could give shieldslam (with resets from newrune) some serious dmg, ill try it atleast
blizzard literally hates Holy Paladins....
They have holy light what else do they need
yeah even with this i dont think holy pally will want to use holy light and this doesn't make horn any better which no one uses rn
so did i miss something or no bonus for heal priest that dont want to do dmg :D?
Isn’t penance considered a damage spell too? Set bonus doesn’t say damage has to be done, just use a damage ability
@@Tiemooo59 not sure we gonna see i guess
@@Tiemooo59honestly I love Penance but it being the same slot as Circle of Healing just makes it unusable lol
@sarthe bro HPal doesn’t get a chest rune, gets a useless set bonus proc, and dont get a single rune that’s an actual heal. Shit is wack.
Where is the melee hunter set?
no you can't do it for a range hunter because the item set is for melee meaning that it gives strength and low agility lol what
Can paladin duel weild weapons do you play paladin?
Boooooooooooo on the ele sham set only getting nature damage, but priests, locks and mages all get +spell damage! It sucks when your biggest damage spell doesn't get a benefit from your class specific set bonus. Edit: Also, you missed that in your coverage of it lol
Cloth users always get bad and boring gear. Blizzard hates us!
Can rogues get some fuckin love man, if it wasn’t for my guild I would’ve had such a difficult time finding raid groups, spent 3 hours one night LFG and never found one
Hopefully they add some Bracers of Pre-clear, where it deletes 1 pack of mobs each time you enter a new Raid ID
Rip Ranged hunter 2024
🤔 does the warr 5% extra swing stack with swords in arms spec?
Ofc
Plus trashblade for example. Would also stack
Is it stack or two separate procs ? Aka can one of each proc out of one swing ? Making 2 extra attacks for 5%*5% proc chance ?
Resto Druid 3 set is terrible, we don’t crit. Dream state should just have the healing proc built in.
Love the vids, but the music puts me in a trance and I miss half of it lmao
Wtf is that bonus for melee hunters? They gotta make that something else other than proccing/keeping up fire damage?? Feign death can be resisted and you cant even keep it up all the time as the traps dont last long enough until the cd on feign death is off... I dont get what they're thinking. Enhancement shamans can keep this buff up just by doing their normal rotation with no downside...
Core Hounds inc?
@@cola33333 Or 2 hander and trap launcher rune, or just duel wield feign death, explosive trap. It does last a while cause it does a burst aoe then tic damage to enemies within radius for 12 secs and you would use it when raptor and flanking are on cooldown instead of wingclip.
Maybe works with flametoungetotem? Or dragonbreath chili (for melee hunt)
Rogue set render Hemo COMPLETELY worthless
It's a lvl 50 set, at 60 you won't be using this set. Hemo needs decent gear to be viable anyway. I am pretty sure they will make it a great spec at 60.
I really like the Feral and Rogue changes! Ranger ones kinda disappointing.
At least no -stamina on set this time. Sad that this is something I’m happy about haha
the hunter can use the fire with melee using a 2 hander and trap launcher rune,
Lock tank will almost certainly be going Conflag with the new backdraft rune. They kind of have to stay destro to buff their Searing pain
More shit for holy paladin. All they needed to do is add Beacon of Virtue. Instead we het absoltue garbage if anything at all. So far P3 will mean we have two dead rune slots that we just put tandom dps abilities instead because there is literally no healing option. Fucking trash.
Problem is, there are so few holy paladins, that Blizzard doesn't even hear how they feel abandoned and ignored.
Lol boomer 3 piece is same as gnomer
Wtf is that set bonus for melee hunters? Fire dmg they really wants us to use use feign death trap macro??
It literally says requires Shaman. Sarthe is baked.
ya it's dumb, but i guess you don't technically need to use the 3 set bonus, maybe there's better gear without it...or maybe there will be a fire damage buff you can use on your weapons which will trigger it directly
Core Hounds fire attack pet ?
Paladin, get 0.2 sec reduced cast time on their already lackluster healing, tied to a buff nobody uses.
Shaman, get 100% reduced cast time to a very good heal, passive with no other requirements.
It's has gone from really sad to just being straight up comical at this point.
Cya later melee hunter
Feral hype
Ranged hunter always getting shafted.
Not playing this game anymore, join me in the Cataclysm waiting room.
For ranged Hunter I was siming like 1000+ DPS. But I had to use Focus Fire AND Lock and Load with Chimera Shot
I have no idea for Melee Hunter yet though
Actually it's like 100-200 DPS off somehow with the gear I have on. Unless you SOMEHOW get a +200 SP Demonic Pact then it rivals it equally. So... in other words Ranged Hunters need to have SP consumes because of the sting LUL
ele shams stay winning
Doesn’t seem very unique for caster dps…lame
And again very boring rings for mage from stv xD I just want something that is fun, doesn’t even have to be strong, just some fun please man
Why are Blizzard encouraging a janky, player invented, mechanic like power shifting? It's such a band aid shitty cover up for the the poor design choices of the class. They had a golden opportunity with SOD to make ferals interesting and instead they are going all in on power shitfting. So sad. Luckily resto looks fun.
It’s basically just a mana->energy version of life tap it’s not that weird
Yawn, making healing priests deal damage to get a healing proc, no thanks.We heal because we love healing, meh no thanks Blizz. It's bad enough that every crafted epic so far is damage + healing which ALWAYS means less healing. They give us mana issues, then want us to dps on top of healing to get a proc, what a joke.
You should add "SOD" to the title to clear confusion
Giving rogues utility within set bonuses is whack af. Lame
Rogue is the only class in the game that brings nothing to the raid… so better they add more utility so they are actually useful
I think immolate is 1.5 sec cast or so. or talented in classic from 2 or something dumb. when you see anything less than the 1.5 lock gcd, it makes me think pvp since time casted are equal.
anyways i dont know what im saying. i love u Sarthe. lul
time casted, cast time. blah blah. i should get an award for more unclear comments with something there still.
Hunters again get more trash tier.
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Cry cry cry. Is anyone looking forward to this phase? Do you just watch these videos to get mad. Last vid did not have one positive comment. This one is looking to be the same. Go touch grass.
Yeah it's actually getting sad how toxic people are being towards SoD forgetting it's an experimental server, people act like their characters will have these tier sets / talent reworks until time ends
First
what boring channel
heee mo raaage.... bro it;s HE - MO - RAGE wtf you don't even need to look it up... it's a commonly used word in the English language...
hem - or - idge
Heemaraj
what is the point the damn phase will be over in a couple weeks just bullshit halfass as usual blizzard