@@Orca-b2v That does not make him less of a brother. He was loved like a brother. You have heard of Lord Byron yes? He was British but he is also a Greek Hero. His majestic statue stands in The Garden of Greek Heroes in Greece! George Baldock had Greek roots, but the reason he was loved so much is because he was a great lad and a great player. At the end of the day, if someone can get all the fans irrespective of teams to love a player like George, it speaks volumes of him and love is above all human divisions. He will never be forgotten. His is a brother. I rest my case.
@@Calliope634 lord byron a greek hero ??? 😁 sure greeks they believe in english and americans... always slaves and head down !!! They gave their banks their economy and army to westerns (nato) also they have statue of harry trouman in athens who burned alive japanish by nuclear !!!! You feel greeks like brothers cause they serve you always your good dogs !!!! George (footbal) he was british but ok. Its the same greeks are not russians who are a real nation...😝😝🤪🤪
When you play against Ivan Yovanovitch teams you have to be aware of a little trick he does . I have seen it in his 3 last teams . He always starts with build up from the keeper to defenders and if you pressure them they will try to keep the ball for as long as it safe in order to pull the enemy team as high they can in the high block . In the meanwhile the striker of his team will always move deep in the center of the pitch along with the 8, and 10 and the wingers will stay wide . So when you pressure high the defenders will always look this trio formed in the center by 8,10 and 9 and hit you almost instantly with one of the wide wingers with numerical advantage 3 on 2 etc. The secret is to give him the ball in the areas 1-6 and apply pressure on the mid block . Ofc there are more things he does or you must do but generally speaking teams that followed the above mentioned approach did much better over all in the match pace control .
The 11 was ridiculous. Our improvement was largely down to Angel Gomes in midfield, freeing up Rice to play his own role. It was balanced. Bellingham and Foden don't need to be playing over having a balanced team. Why Watkins and Gomes didn't start, I'll never understand, can only think its down to Carsley being inexperienced.
I agree about Gomes, England severely lack a pivot with composure in possession. The balance should be the main part of the side. I think the side he picked was possibly down to the pressures of having to play the best/star players and try to fit them all in a line up, he’s not the first manager to succumb to this pressure and he certainly won’t be the last. Thanks for watching mate!
Thanks! He needs to be in this England side for me, the balance that he offers is so important in progressing the ball and from a defensive point of view. Thanks for watching mate!
Bad is an understatement.. to be fair Greece played well, especially when maintaining good shape whilst defending. and the England squad, all that bloody talent.. shocking
Pure English arrogance. All the pundits and fans commented on rubbish England were. But never mentioned how good the Greece team were. As if they have every right to win every game. Pure English arrogance. As usual.
Unfortunately the story from the large scale media will be about the negativity of England rather than the positivity of Greece, I mentioned this as well but I think it’s vitally important that Greece are mentioned, especially considering what they were going through. And I’ve got to say again, Greece were absolutely phenomenal. Thanks for watching mate!
As far as the fans go, in the comments section, I've seen them much more humble than usual and praising Greece's win so I cant fault them this time. The pundits is another story.
@@ZekkoFootball I thought you were respectable. The game in Athens will be more revealing. Athens the HOME of the Parthenon Marbles. Bring them back and we will lose DELIBERATELY!😉
As a Greek, gotta admit that this wasn't exactly the best game for England... But I feel like nobody is giving credit to the Greek team. It's not just that the English team "sucked". We had a pretty decent game and did not let the English players find their rhythm.
Absolutely, I couldn't agree with you more. The Greek side were absolutely amazing in everything they did, they were phenomenal and thoroughly deserved the win. Thanks for watching mate!
The moment that annoyed me, was that whilst it was a big shame for Saka to have to come off, they had the chance to bring Madueke on. And if you have Cole Palmer and Noni Madueke on at the same time - why would you not stick Noni on the right, and Palmer as the 10? Their best roles, they have an amazing partnership there every week. I just don't know why you wouldn't do that. I don't get this weird thing of wanting Palmer in the team, but playing him out of his best position to the determent of the team. Like we had three 10s on the pitch at once because they're big names. Why? The one who actually started as the 10 was Foden - who was the weakest of the 3 currently. Then you add Lewis and TAA getting so far forward, we left Colwill and Stones to basically be the entire defence behind Rice. I'm no one, but the way I'd try to adjust it for Finland (assuming Saka can't play, we don't know) is to scrap Foden off for now, he hasn't earned a start. Bring Watkins in to start. Push Bellingham back to the Number 8 role on the left side, I think he can make the biggest difference arriving late into the area, pretty much like the goal last night. Push Palmer into that 10 role, with Noni on the right next to him. We know they make goals together. And with Bellingham on the left, there's now room for TAA to invert on the right. (Palmer tends to sit back behind Noni when the rightback inverts at Chelsea) Though I really think the fullbacks should be defending more, they left us so thin at the back last night. But the main thing. Don't be afraid to sub people out if it's not working. I don't care if Jude Bellingham and Cole Palmer are big names, sub them off if they're not working in the team. And don't wait until that magic 65 minute mark to make changes. Like as a Chelsea fan, a big thing I've noticed about Maresca is that he makes changes earlier if he needs to. We don't need an allstar team where 7/11 players think they're attackers.
You’re completely spot on with all of this, I like your changes and would like to see them in the next game. Balance is essential for a side to progress and it just wasn’t found in this last game. On top of that, you hit a really good point around partnerships, the way to blend a national team is to utilise partnerships from successful sides, a really good example is what you mentioned with Palmer and Madueke. It’s very early and I am sure Carsley will learn fast, so I’m eager to see what he does in the next game. Thanks for watching mate!
TOTALLY agree, as a nation we are more concerned about having to play the "top" players, not the player that fit the "system" of the manager, as they would get a thrashing from the press.
Precisely, the England side will progress and start to win things once the TEAM becomes the focus rather than the individual and the drama of whether they're playing or not. Thanks for watching mate!
Amazing break of the game, was wondering what might have caused England perform so poorly. I am Greek and I am very proud of how well my team played but it was obvious England was at the least not performing at normal standard.
Thank you! Greece were brilliant! Don’t let Englands poor form take anything away from the brilliant performance that Greece put in.. they were great 👍 Thanks for watching!
hello friend! i believe that you placed all things on the correct position! thanks for your fair comments about greek team! wishes to you for a better rest of turnament!
nothing wrong with england dudes ,calm down a bit.the english team was 100% sure that was a very easy match ,but the greeks played amazing football,i dare to say one of the best game i ever saw ,they had amazing stragedy and stuned england.you should give credits to the greek team for this amazing effort instead blaming england. btw greece have a pretty good team the last 2 years.respect for the greeks who alwaying fighting with everything they have.
The quality of Englands players and coach is not questionable in this game. For me, what is questionable is the level of intensity and urgency, the dynamism as you said, that was not equal to Greece's side. Let's not rush to make conclusions on tactics. Start with the obvious: don't underestimate any opponent. This is apparent even from the fans comments after the match ..and even from the oppening words in this video :). The figting spirit won this match. You can see it clearly after the equalizer.If the right conclusios are drawn from this game this defeat can become a blessing for England's football mentality.
I think you’re absolutely spot on with this, mentality and the way players approach a game is incredibly important. England didn’t match the intensity, dynamism and drive that came from this Greece side and paid the price, as you say, hopefully there will be able to learn from this. Thanks for watching!
@@ZekkoFootball Also England is now trying to change their approach and start pressing up high like all the successful modern teams (Spain, Germany, Argentina) but they're doing it in a godawfully bad way. Pressing up high is all about reacting fast and pressing the receivers of the passes on their first touch, English players were running after the ball like mindless children but if you watch the game again they didn't put pressure on the first touches of Greek players at all. The first touch of a player is THE best time to make him lose the ball and if you catch him slacking you can even intercept the pass and go at the defense while it's disorganized. Pressing high isn't about running a lot... it's about running with red hot intensity at the right space and time and understanding WHEN AND WHERE the right time and space to use that intensity and pressure is... England mid and forward players were running a lot but their high press was godawful...
Southgate and seemingly Carsley have not identified that you need a disciplined holding midfielder with Rice. Then it’s a case of picking your front 4, fitness aside I’d say Saka, Bellingham, Gordon with Kane up top is the best solution.
It does seem strange, doesn’t it? That this issue has occurred once more. That’s a really good front four but would you have no space for Palmer considering the form he is in? Not saying it’s wrong, just wondering. Thanks for watching mate!
@@ZekkoFootball It’s not about leaving him out, he could easily be in place of Bellingham or Saka, it’s just what I think is most balanced. But there could be situations where you may start Palmer or Foden in those roles.
@@RorZp You need a great no. 8 and England has none... meaning you need a guy like Pedri or Veratti (when used as an 8 and not a pure 6) or to use an old English player Paul Scholes... someone that his natural place is deep in the midfield and has the ability to be effective defensively but at the same time his best traits and qualities are his touch on the ball, his passing vision and his ability to play through balls between the lines to disorganize the defense. Mainoo for example has very good ball control and first touch but his passing is just not good enough... Gomes might be closer to that but his defensive ability and focus is somewhat questionable The problem is that English football as a whole doesn't support the development of players of that kind... the best I could think of would be Ward-Prowse if Ward-Prowse could be more passable on the defensive side and have a bit more stamina and fight on that side cause his vision touch and passing ability are top tier... or an actual GREAT example of this would be Jack Wilshere before his massive array of injuries that sadly ended his career way too early... Wilshere was actually a perfect no. 8 cause his touch on the ball was fantastic, he was a true box to box player, he had vision for good low through passes... Anyway, England is too stubborn to see past "star power" anyway... they were losing to superstars for many years (like Ronaldo and Ronaldinho, Zidane and Henry etc etc) without them having equal stars to match cause the best they had was Beckham or Owen as a star that they thought that stars were beating them while in reality Zidane was useless without Makelele and Ronaldo and Ronaldinho would have never won shit without great worldclass workhorses like Cafu and Gilberto Silva for example... every star needs a bunch of "honest workers" around him to support him... that's the law of football and all sports... and it will never change
@@sportschool3537 I think it’s why Southgate liked Henderson and Phillips so much. They gave good balance to the side and were disciplined enough to allow Rice to be the destroyer he is. We’ve never really replaced them two since their decline and have scratched around with midfielders who aren’t disciplined and can’t progress the ball (Gallagher) or are too advanced (Mainoo).
Having no Angel Gomes, Kobbie Mainoo or Adam Wharton was terrible for England in general. This team badly needs a holding midfielder alongside Rice, who is no longer a defensive midfielder by trade for Arsenal. The false nine experiment is not a bad idea, but one that needs work on the training pitch
I absolutely agree with you mate, a ball playing pivot is essential for the balance of this England side and without it they looked lost. I agree with you on the experiment and I actually don’t mind that he tried something, but Carsley admitted that they had 25 minutes training time to get it together and that’s no where near enough for a new system to be implemented. Thanks for watching mate!
I was so confused that Angel Gomes wasn’t playing, I actually think his composure on the ball next to Rice would have brought balance to this England side. Hopefully he features in the next game. Thanks for watching mate!
Greece has made significant strides in adapting to modern football, leaving behind years of stagnation. Greek clubs are also working hard, and we’re seeing steady progress. As for the match, it was a poor performance from England, while Greece played exceptionally well-when those two things coincide, the outcome is clear. That said, I don’t expect England to play like this again anytime soon. If these two teams faced off ten times, I believe England would win nine out of ten. English fans should stay patient; the players have much more to offer than what we saw in this game. I fully support my country, but I also have immense respect for England's formidable football legacy. There's no need for English fans to feel overly pessimistic.
Greece were absolutely fantastic and I think that should be the real big take away in general from that match, brilliant performance. Thanks for your words and for watching!
Honestly, I’m not too sure at the moment, I like Carsley and the way that he wants to approach games with a front foot, attacking nature but there are concerns. Obviously there are other candidates like Tuchel and Eddie Howe whom I think could do good jobs. So I’m uncertain at the minute, who would you pick? Thanks for watching mate!
When will England coaches, and some sections of the media and so-called pundits realise that the best team does not equate to having the best players on the pitch. Its been tried many times and always meant players in positions they are not comfortable with. The best coaches are looking for the right players not the best players. Greece were very good and made sure England weren't allowed to pampering over the cracks with a poor quality victory. This will go the way of England being relegated in the Nations League. It was deemed a blip by many rather than an obvious sign of our short comings.
I'm not sure England will get relegated (although I could be wrong) but you're absolutely spot on around the influence from the media and the drama of who is included in the side and who isn't. As you say: its about having the RIGHT players not the best players. Thanks for watching mate!
@@ZekkoFootball the relegation I was referring to, in a poorly constructed manner, was last year when they fell from A to B. It followed several embarrassing results. Mot to worry England will be favourites again for the next World cup.
Agree with others, Rice is no good as the deepest option, he's stronger playing in front of a true pivot like Gomes. Bellingham isnt good enough on the ball to play deep so his only role is at no.10, where Palmer is probably at his best. So Palmer or Foden goes to right wing, for me Saka is not the answer and clearly not better than those 2. Gordon or controversially Rashford is a more potent left wing. Rico Lewis should never play in defence again, bring Guehi in and Colwill to LB.
I agree with most of what you’re saying, I think it’s harsh on Saka but I understand the need for something different. Nothing against Lewis but I thought from a defensive line point of view, Colwill at LB gave a lot of balance to the side when Trent wanted to invert in the last game. Let’s see what Carsley does for the next one, will be really interesting. Thanks for watching mate!
He was left with far too much to do in that game, he needs help occasionally. On the ball I agree with you but even defensively he was left overwhelmed at times. Thanks for watching mate!
I've always said Rice isn't good enough as pivot/6! You need for Me to be dictating, have tactical awarenes, passing short/between the lines & not just being able to tackle/covering spaces! Rice is a box to box CM (Like for Arsenal) & is really Good to! Who's the current one to play that role maybe Wharton (Long term I think he's suited best), Mainoo (I see him as an CAM but could do that role if needed), Gomes (Is also suited) & Barkley (Can do it short term).
Pickford was really off it in that game and we definitely need a keeper that’s more comfortable with the ball at his feet if we are going to continue with the heavy possession build up. I wouldn’t write Carsley off yet, give him the end of the next international break and then judge him, I think the question should be there and he should be looked at but let’s not get hasty, Finland and what he changed against them is going to be very interesting. Thanks for watching mate!
@@ZekkoFootball More important you need a keeper that hasn't the mental capacity of an immature 10yo child, making mistakes and never owning up to them or improving...
Absolutely, I fully expect him to learn from this, my question was more about the broader world around this, what will the FA think? Will more casual fans accept this? How do the players react (Watkins for example).. He has a very limited frame to showcase his skills and I fear (because I like him and want him to succeed) that he might have done himself more harm than good with this one. Thanks for watching mate!
I think that might warrant a video in itself but I can tell you that it wouldn’t look anything like what was played against Greece😂 I didn’t really like the selection in this game and for me it almost showed a naivety in the approach to the game and the opponent. Thanks for watching mate!
@@ZekkoFootball Pickford Trent, stones, guehi, colwill Angel, rice Saka Jude grealish Kane GK is open. if one of the others steps up they can have the #1 Trent is great, stones is great, guehi/colwill both work as the lcb. It's a real shame we don't have a true LB, I think Rico is going to be one of the best players in the world, probably will make an insane CM but having two inverting fullbacks is very risky in international football. Swapping trent for white then having Rico at LB would also work very well. Let's not be daft leaving rice as a DM, he's not that, never has been, he is a world class box to box but needs freedom. I think angel offers that, maybe Wharton but I'm not massively convinced, open to suggestions that don't involve Curtis Jones. I think that has balance. The attack genuinely doesn't matter. Any 3 of cole, Phil, saka, Jude, grealish. Will cook, doesn't even matter which position they start, give them the freedom to ignore a resemblance of initial starting positiona. It's nonsense to suggest that they can't play together, they can, as long as they have cover behind them that's happy to be defensive. Oh and up front is the hurrikane. Ollie Watkins/solanke are great deputies
Mad we're still playing Pickford to be honest, his distribution is awful. Always seems to get even worse when we go down as well which just guarantees we've got no chance of recovering. Nick Pope seems to be better by every metric.
It really is, his utility on the ball really needs work. On your second point, I think that’s because he’s such an emotional player, he plays off the occasions so when there are highs, or moments of resilience he performs better but once the tide turns he tense to falter. I really like Pope but much like Pickford, the distribution from the back with the ball at his feet is questionable at times. Thanks for watching mate!
They absolutely were better, I thought I mentioned that but in case I didn't. Greece were by far the better side on the day and thoroughly deserved the victory. Thanks for watching mate!
It is quite concerning with Foden in particular who has really failed to convert his excellent Man City form into good England performances. This game was yet another example. Thanks for watching!
Man City is a team that is all about "the plan" but Guardiola sucks the soul out of players because he doesn't allow for any individual thinking and ideas but only following the plan... so these players when they are forced outside of that system, they've been zombified by it so much that they are struggling to even play without it... Foden is very talented but he's been forced to do only what Guardiola says that when the time comes for him to think for himself and play he has no idea what to do... This is a huge problem with modern football... the best players nowadays are nowhere near as good as players 20 years ago because they've been so zombified by coaches telling them exactly what to do in every situation that they have no ability to think outside the box (system)... would nowadays Guardiola let Totti chip keepers from outside the box? Nope... would Guardiola let Ronaldinho do whose absolutely mindblowing tricks that made defenders question their ability to understand the game of football and disorganized them completely? Nope... these are quick examples... Guardiola and most managers today make players ONLY follow the system... Do you know why Ancelotti beats Guardiola so often? Because he lets his players free to play... he allows them to think for themselves... he doesn't tell Vinicius to play a specific pass or when to dribble... he just tells them "when you see space, go for it... beat him... I'm not gonna tell you how, you know what you can do, just do it"... Guardiola's system is perfect for smothering less talented teams but when faced with a team with the elite talent of Real Madrid plus players that are allowed to think for themselves and create chaos with individual brilliance and disorganize that system, the system fails a lot... sure, teams like Everton or Forrest or Burnley have no chance against Guardiola which is why City wins the league every year but teams with real talent and the freedom to play (like Klopp's Liverpool) have a great chance against Guardiola...
@@sportschool3537 Cool story, but the last 2 years Man City played vs Real they made Madrid look like a 2nd division club. Real barely won by the skin of their teeth last year without deserving it and City hammered them in 22-23 so your post is pretty off the mark.
@@aekaralagonisi You read the game wrong... yes, City played the more "attacking football" but at the same time they have conceded a shitload of goals that were all the same story... counter attack, Real Madrid players creating for themselves and City conceding another goal... And that was against one of the worst Real Madrid teams to ever set foot on a pitch... My point is that a bad team with very high level talent can beat City cause they beat them 2 out of 3 times... City's game destroys small teams cause they have no individual talent but players with tons of talent and the freedom to create chaos outside City's strict system are City's kryptonite... Anyway, you only look at it on the surface... I look at the depth beneath cause everything happens for a reason... and if a team loses 2 out 3 times to another team there is a specific reason... Anyway, I'm not gonna waste my time trying to teach you how to look at a tactical game of football besides who has possession and who plays more "attacking football"
Yeah. I think that would be a pretty good system to implement, balance is the one of the most important things when trying to create a team. Thanks for watching mate!
I did, Palmer played a deeper role for England which allowed Foden and Bellingham to go and press ahead, for their defensive shape to work, Palmer needed to drop back and sit next to Rice to take away the space that I highlighted, as that’s what a midfielder does. Rice had far too much to do, he needed someone next to him to help him rather than another attacker. I wouldn’t have played Palmer there but once Palmer is in that position, I think he’s got to help his teammate. Thanks for watching mate!
@@ZekkoFootball So one of the EPL's most creative and goal scoring players is supposed to help Rice in defence? Says it all about his tactics. Ridiculous
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nothing can beat a bunch of unified and determined greeks, who gave everything in memory of a lost brother
100%. Couldn’t agree more.
Thanks for watching!
@@Orca-b2v That does not make him less of a brother. He was loved like a brother. You have heard of Lord Byron yes? He was British but he is also a Greek Hero. His majestic statue stands in The Garden of Greek Heroes in Greece! George Baldock had Greek roots, but the reason he was loved so much is because he was a great lad and a great player. At the end of the day, if someone can get all the fans irrespective of teams to love a player like George, it speaks volumes of him and love is above all human divisions. He will never be forgotten. His is a brother. I rest my case.
@@Calliope634 lord byron a greek hero ??? 😁 sure greeks they believe in english and americans... always slaves and head down !!! They gave their banks their economy and army to westerns (nato) also they have statue of harry trouman in athens who burned alive japanish by nuclear !!!! You feel greeks like brothers cause they serve you always your good dogs !!!! George (footbal) he was british but ok. Its the same greeks are not russians who are a real nation...😝😝🤪🤪
@@Orca-b2v what nationality has to do with that? Also his grandma had greek roots.
@@Razorxgreece an englishan he can't join greek national team....💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
When you play against Ivan Yovanovitch teams you have to be aware of a little trick he does . I have seen it in his 3 last teams . He always starts with build up from the keeper to defenders and if you pressure them they will try to keep the ball for as long as it safe in order to pull the enemy team as high they can in the high block . In the meanwhile the striker of his team will always move deep in the center of the pitch along with the 8, and 10 and the wingers will stay wide . So when you pressure high the defenders will always look this trio formed in the center by 8,10 and 9 and hit you almost instantly with one of the wide wingers with numerical advantage 3 on 2 etc. The secret is to give him the ball in the areas 1-6 and apply pressure on the mid block . Ofc there are more things he does or you must do but generally speaking teams that followed the above mentioned approach did much better over all in the match pace control .
That's a really good spot! Thanks for the mention and the breakdown, top analysis!
Thanks for watching as well mate!
@@ZekkoFootball The pleasure is all mine mate. Top content 🔥
The 11 was ridiculous. Our improvement was largely down to Angel Gomes in midfield, freeing up Rice to play his own role. It was balanced. Bellingham and Foden don't need to be playing over having a balanced team. Why Watkins and Gomes didn't start, I'll never understand, can only think its down to Carsley being inexperienced.
I agree about Gomes, England severely lack a pivot with composure in possession. The balance should be the main part of the side.
I think the side he picked was possibly down to the pressures of having to play the best/star players and try to fit them all in a line up, he’s not the first manager to succumb to this pressure and he certainly won’t be the last.
Thanks for watching mate!
@@ZekkoFootballwhen people say he's an FA yes man, does that mean they tell him who to pick? Or is it media pressure?
Our left back who caught your eye used to play for Norwich in premier currently he's having a good start with Augsburg in bundesliga.
Tzolis another former Norwich player doing well at the moment too 😅
@@Anvil35 yea Norwich could pick them couldn't use them though
He was absolutely fantastic, really impressive.
Thanks for watching mate!
Where was tsimikas?
@@greengrass811 he is sick
Good analysis ,thank you! Gomez back to stay please would be an essential first step to recovery!
Thanks!
He needs to be in this England side for me, the balance that he offers is so important in progressing the ball and from a defensive point of view.
Thanks for watching mate!
Bad is an understatement.. to be fair Greece played well, especially when maintaining good shape whilst defending. and the England squad, all that bloody talent.. shocking
Greece deserve all the credit, they were absolutely phenomenal.
Thanks for watching mate!
Pure English arrogance. All the pundits and fans commented on rubbish England were. But never mentioned how good the Greece team were. As if they have every right to win every game. Pure English arrogance. As usual.
Unfortunately the story from the large scale media will be about the negativity of England rather than the positivity of Greece, I mentioned this as well but I think it’s vitally important that Greece are mentioned, especially considering what they were going through.
And I’ve got to say again, Greece were absolutely phenomenal.
Thanks for watching mate!
You mean pundits like Roy Keane? Yeah, 'English arrogance'. You seem like a typical rabid bigot.
As far as the fans go, in the comments section, I've seen them much more humble than usual and praising Greece's win so I cant fault them this time. The pundits is another story.
@@ZekkoFootball I thought you were respectable. The game in Athens will be more revealing. Athens the HOME of the Parthenon Marbles. Bring them back and we will lose DELIBERATELY!😉
As a Greek, gotta admit that this wasn't exactly the best game for England... But I feel like nobody is giving credit to the Greek team. It's not just that the English team "sucked". We had a pretty decent game and did not let the English players find their rhythm.
Absolutely, I couldn't agree with you more. The Greek side were absolutely amazing in everything they did, they were phenomenal and thoroughly deserved the win.
Thanks for watching mate!
The moment that annoyed me, was that whilst it was a big shame for Saka to have to come off, they had the chance to bring Madueke on. And if you have Cole Palmer and Noni Madueke on at the same time - why would you not stick Noni on the right, and Palmer as the 10? Their best roles, they have an amazing partnership there every week. I just don't know why you wouldn't do that. I don't get this weird thing of wanting Palmer in the team, but playing him out of his best position to the determent of the team.
Like we had three 10s on the pitch at once because they're big names. Why? The one who actually started as the 10 was Foden - who was the weakest of the 3 currently. Then you add Lewis and TAA getting so far forward, we left Colwill and Stones to basically be the entire defence behind Rice.
I'm no one, but the way I'd try to adjust it for Finland (assuming Saka can't play, we don't know) is to scrap Foden off for now, he hasn't earned a start. Bring Watkins in to start.
Push Bellingham back to the Number 8 role on the left side, I think he can make the biggest difference arriving late into the area, pretty much like the goal last night.
Push Palmer into that 10 role, with Noni on the right next to him. We know they make goals together. And with Bellingham on the left, there's now room for TAA to invert on the right. (Palmer tends to sit back behind Noni when the rightback inverts at Chelsea) Though I really think the fullbacks should be defending more, they left us so thin at the back last night.
But the main thing. Don't be afraid to sub people out if it's not working. I don't care if Jude Bellingham and Cole Palmer are big names, sub them off if they're not working in the team. And don't wait
until that magic 65 minute mark to make changes. Like as a Chelsea fan, a big thing I've noticed about Maresca is that he makes changes earlier if he needs to. We don't need an allstar team where 7/11 players think they're attackers.
You’re completely spot on with all of this, I like your changes and would like to see them in the next game. Balance is essential for a side to progress and it just wasn’t found in this last game.
On top of that, you hit a really good point around partnerships, the way to blend a national team is to utilise partnerships from successful sides, a really good example is what you mentioned with Palmer and Madueke.
It’s very early and I am sure Carsley will learn fast, so I’m eager to see what he does in the next game.
Thanks for watching mate!
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They were fantastic and deserved to win.
Thanks for watching!
TOTALLY agree, as a nation we are more concerned about having to play the "top" players, not the player that fit the "system" of the manager, as they would get a thrashing from the press.
Precisely, the England side will progress and start to win things once the TEAM becomes the focus rather than the individual and the drama of whether they're playing or not.
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Amazing break of the game, was wondering what might have caused England perform so poorly.
I am Greek and I am very proud of how well my team played but it was obvious England was at the least not performing at normal standard.
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Greece were brilliant! Don’t let Englands poor form take anything away from the brilliant performance that Greece put in.. they were great 👍
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hello friend! i believe that you placed all things on the correct position! thanks for your fair comments about greek team! wishes to you for a better rest of turnament!
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nothing wrong with england dudes ,calm down a bit.the english team was 100% sure that was a very easy match ,but the greeks played amazing football,i dare to say one of the best game i ever saw ,they had amazing stragedy and stuned england.you should give credits to the greek team for this amazing effort instead blaming england.
btw greece have a pretty good team the last 2 years.respect for the greeks who alwaying fighting with everything they have.
I agree with you around Greece and how good they were, they deserve so much credit.
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The quality of Englands players and coach is not questionable in this game. For me, what is questionable is the level of intensity and urgency, the dynamism as you said, that was not equal to Greece's side. Let's not rush to make conclusions on tactics. Start with the obvious: don't underestimate any opponent. This is apparent even from the fans comments after the match ..and even from the oppening words in this video :). The figting spirit won this match. You can see it clearly after the equalizer.If the right conclusios are drawn from this game this defeat can become a blessing for England's football mentality.
I think you’re absolutely spot on with this, mentality and the way players approach a game is incredibly important. England didn’t match the intensity, dynamism and drive that came from this Greece side and paid the price, as you say, hopefully there will be able to learn from this.
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@@ZekkoFootball Also England is now trying to change their approach and start pressing up high like all the successful modern teams (Spain, Germany, Argentina) but they're doing it in a godawfully bad way. Pressing up high is all about reacting fast and pressing the receivers of the passes on their first touch, English players were running after the ball like mindless children but if you watch the game again they didn't put pressure on the first touches of Greek players at all. The first touch of a player is THE best time to make him lose the ball and if you catch him slacking you can even intercept the pass and go at the defense while it's disorganized.
Pressing high isn't about running a lot... it's about running with red hot intensity at the right space and time and understanding WHEN AND WHERE the right time and space to use that intensity and pressure is... England mid and forward players were running a lot but their high press was godawful...
Southgate and seemingly Carsley have not identified that you need a disciplined holding midfielder with Rice. Then it’s a case of picking your front 4, fitness aside I’d say Saka, Bellingham, Gordon with Kane up top is the best solution.
It does seem strange, doesn’t it? That this issue has occurred once more. That’s a really good front four but would you have no space for Palmer considering the form he is in? Not saying it’s wrong, just wondering.
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@@ZekkoFootball It’s not about leaving him out, he could easily be in place of Bellingham or Saka, it’s just what I think is most balanced. But there could be situations where you may start Palmer or Foden in those roles.
@@RorZp You need a great no. 8 and England has none... meaning you need a guy like Pedri or Veratti (when used as an 8 and not a pure 6) or to use an old English player Paul Scholes... someone that his natural place is deep in the midfield and has the ability to be effective defensively but at the same time his best traits and qualities are his touch on the ball, his passing vision and his ability to play through balls between the lines to disorganize the defense.
Mainoo for example has very good ball control and first touch but his passing is just not good enough... Gomes might be closer to that but his defensive ability and focus is somewhat questionable
The problem is that English football as a whole doesn't support the development of players of that kind... the best I could think of would be Ward-Prowse if Ward-Prowse could be more passable on the defensive side and have a bit more stamina and fight on that side cause his vision touch and passing ability are top tier... or an actual GREAT example of this would be Jack Wilshere before his massive array of injuries that sadly ended his career way too early... Wilshere was actually a perfect no. 8 cause his touch on the ball was fantastic, he was a true box to box player, he had vision for good low through passes...
Anyway, England is too stubborn to see past "star power" anyway... they were losing to superstars for many years (like Ronaldo and Ronaldinho, Zidane and Henry etc etc) without them having equal stars to match cause the best they had was Beckham or Owen as a star that they thought that stars were beating them while in reality Zidane was useless without Makelele and Ronaldo and Ronaldinho would have never won shit without great worldclass workhorses like Cafu and Gilberto Silva for example... every star needs a bunch of "honest workers" around him to support him... that's the law of football and all sports... and it will never change
@@sportschool3537 I think it’s why Southgate liked Henderson and Phillips so much. They gave good balance to the side and were disciplined enough to allow Rice to be the destroyer he is. We’ve never really replaced them two since their decline and have scratched around with midfielders who aren’t disciplined and can’t progress the ball (Gallagher) or are too advanced (Mainoo).
Having no Angel Gomes, Kobbie Mainoo or Adam Wharton was terrible for England in general. This team badly needs a holding midfielder alongside Rice, who is no longer a defensive midfielder by trade for Arsenal.
The false nine experiment is not a bad idea, but one that needs work on the training pitch
I absolutely agree with you mate, a ball playing pivot is essential for the balance of this England side and without it they looked lost.
I agree with you on the experiment and I actually don’t mind that he tried something, but Carsley admitted that they had 25 minutes training time to get it together and that’s no where near enough for a new system to be implemented.
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You simply underestimate Greece and you paid for it Greece ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Definitely, Greece were brilliant and deserved to win!
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Bang on. Trying to shoehorn stars into a team doesn't mean the sum of the parts will be that good. Why no Angel Gomes or Wharton?
I was so confused that Angel Gomes wasn’t playing, I actually think his composure on the ball next to Rice would have brought balance to this England side. Hopefully he features in the next game.
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It's actually really dizzying why foden is there
He’s just sadly not able to perform the way he does for his club in an England shirt and that’s a real shame.
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Greece has made significant strides in adapting to modern football, leaving behind years of stagnation. Greek clubs are also working hard, and we’re seeing steady progress. As for the match, it was a poor performance from England, while Greece played exceptionally well-when those two things coincide, the outcome is clear. That said, I don’t expect England to play like this again anytime soon. If these two teams faced off ten times, I believe England would win nine out of ten. English fans should stay patient; the players have much more to offer than what we saw in this game. I fully support my country, but I also have immense respect for England's formidable football legacy. There's no need for English fans to feel overly pessimistic.
Greece were absolutely fantastic and I think that should be the real big take away in general from that match, brilliant performance.
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How would you rate England if they drew in Athens then?
Who would be your choice for the New England manager
Honestly, I’m not too sure at the moment, I like Carsley and the way that he wants to approach games with a front foot, attacking nature but there are concerns.
Obviously there are other candidates like Tuchel and Eddie Howe whom I think could do good jobs. So I’m uncertain at the minute, who would you pick?
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@@ZekkoFootballI like carsley but would love Howe and the dream is obvious pep, great video btw
When will England coaches, and some sections of the media and so-called pundits realise that the best team does not equate to having the best players on the pitch. Its been tried many times and always meant players in positions they are not comfortable with. The best coaches are looking for the right players not the best players.
Greece were very good and made sure England weren't allowed to pampering over the cracks with a poor quality victory.
This will go the way of England being relegated in the Nations League. It was deemed a blip by many rather than an obvious sign of our short comings.
I'm not sure England will get relegated (although I could be wrong) but you're absolutely spot on around the influence from the media and the drama of who is included in the side and who isn't.
As you say: its about having the RIGHT players not the best players.
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@@ZekkoFootball the relegation I was referring to, in a poorly constructed manner, was last year when they fell from A to B. It followed several embarrassing results.
Mot to worry England will be favourites again for the next World cup.
Please sir refresh my memory , over twenty years ego , the famous Beacham free kick that made it ,2-2 wasent at Wembley?
The Beckham free kick was at Old Trafford I believe and not at Wembley.
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Ηow many matches were between England vs Greece at Wembley in the past, before that...?
Agree with others, Rice is no good as the deepest option, he's stronger playing in front of a true pivot like Gomes. Bellingham isnt good enough on the ball to play deep so his only role is at no.10, where Palmer is probably at his best. So Palmer or Foden goes to right wing, for me Saka is not the answer and clearly not better than those 2. Gordon or controversially Rashford is a more potent left wing. Rico Lewis should never play in defence again, bring Guehi in and Colwill to LB.
I agree with most of what you’re saying, I think it’s harsh on Saka but I understand the need for something different. Nothing against Lewis but I thought from a defensive line point of view, Colwill at LB gave a lot of balance to the side when Trent wanted to invert in the last game.
Let’s see what Carsley does for the next one, will be really interesting.
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rice is not a good enough six to play that role alone
He was left with far too much to do in that game, he needs help occasionally. On the ball I agree with you but even defensively he was left overwhelmed at times.
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I remember when Rice was a good 6 but now he’s more of a defensive 8 than anything else.
I've always said Rice isn't good enough as pivot/6! You need for Me to be dictating, have tactical awarenes, passing short/between the lines & not just being able to tackle/covering spaces!
Rice is a box to box CM (Like for Arsenal) & is really Good to!
Who's the current one to play that role maybe Wharton (Long term I think he's suited best), Mainoo (I see him as an CAM but could do that role if needed), Gomes (Is also suited) & Barkley (Can do it short term).
We need a new keeper for sure and the way we played I think carsley is not the man.
Pickford was really off it in that game and we definitely need a keeper that’s more comfortable with the ball at his feet if we are going to continue with the heavy possession build up.
I wouldn’t write Carsley off yet, give him the end of the next international break and then judge him, I think the question should be there and he should be looked at but let’s not get hasty, Finland and what he changed against them is going to be very interesting.
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@@ZekkoFootball More important you need a keeper that hasn't the mental capacity of an immature 10yo child, making mistakes and never owning up to them or improving...
The English media, pundits and sports analysts influence the team selections.
Absolutely, its a huge problem, the TEAM needs to come first and not the drama about who is playing and who isn't.
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Greece where fantastic . End of.
Absolutely, completely agree.
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Look its one game and lee carsley is a professional coach he will see these issues and i don't think we should question his spot until the next game
Absolutely, I fully expect him to learn from this, my question was more about the broader world around this, what will the FA think? Will more casual fans accept this? How do the players react (Watkins for example)..
He has a very limited frame to showcase his skills and I fear (because I like him and want him to succeed) that he might have done himself more harm than good with this one.
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What would your England set up be?
I think that might warrant a video in itself but I can tell you that it wouldn’t look anything like what was played against Greece😂
I didn’t really like the selection in this game and for me it almost showed a naivety in the approach to the game and the opponent.
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What would your set up for England be?
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Pickford
Trent, stones, guehi, colwill
Angel, rice
Saka Jude grealish
Kane
GK is open. if one of the others steps up they can have the #1
Trent is great, stones is great, guehi/colwill both work as the lcb. It's a real shame we don't have a true LB, I think Rico is going to be one of the best players in the world, probably will make an insane CM but having two inverting fullbacks is very risky in international football. Swapping trent for white then having Rico at LB would also work very well.
Let's not be daft leaving rice as a DM, he's not that, never has been, he is a world class box to box but needs freedom. I think angel offers that, maybe Wharton but I'm not massively convinced, open to suggestions that don't involve Curtis Jones.
I think that has balance.
The attack genuinely doesn't matter. Any 3 of cole, Phil, saka, Jude, grealish. Will cook, doesn't even matter which position they start, give them the freedom to ignore a resemblance of initial starting positiona. It's nonsense to suggest that they can't play together, they can, as long as they have cover behind them that's happy to be defensive. Oh and up front is the hurrikane. Ollie Watkins/solanke are great deputies
Poor english Mentalité...
I suppose if England was playing in Athens and having 3-goals disallowed , WWIII would be started.
Not sure about that one but Greece were fantastic and thoroughly deserved the win.
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Mad we're still playing Pickford to be honest, his distribution is awful. Always seems to get even worse when we go down as well which just guarantees we've got no chance of recovering. Nick Pope seems to be better by every metric.
It really is, his utility on the ball really needs work. On your second point, I think that’s because he’s such an emotional player, he plays off the occasions so when there are highs, or moments of resilience he performs better but once the tide turns he tense to falter.
I really like Pope but much like Pickford, the distribution from the back with the ball at his feet is questionable at times.
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No chance that Greece was better??
They absolutely were better, I thought I mentioned that but in case I didn't. Greece were by far the better side on the day and thoroughly deserved the victory.
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City system player frauds
It is quite concerning with Foden in particular who has really failed to convert his excellent Man City form into good England performances. This game was yet another example.
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Man City is a team that is all about "the plan" but Guardiola sucks the soul out of players because he doesn't allow for any individual thinking and ideas but only following the plan... so these players when they are forced outside of that system, they've been zombified by it so much that they are struggling to even play without it... Foden is very talented but he's been forced to do only what Guardiola says that when the time comes for him to think for himself and play he has no idea what to do...
This is a huge problem with modern football... the best players nowadays are nowhere near as good as players 20 years ago because they've been so zombified by coaches telling them exactly what to do in every situation that they have no ability to think outside the box (system)... would nowadays Guardiola let Totti chip keepers from outside the box? Nope... would Guardiola let Ronaldinho do whose absolutely mindblowing tricks that made defenders question their ability to understand the game of football and disorganized them completely? Nope... these are quick examples... Guardiola and most managers today make players ONLY follow the system...
Do you know why Ancelotti beats Guardiola so often? Because he lets his players free to play... he allows them to think for themselves... he doesn't tell Vinicius to play a specific pass or when to dribble... he just tells them "when you see space, go for it... beat him... I'm not gonna tell you how, you know what you can do, just do it"... Guardiola's system is perfect for smothering less talented teams but when faced with a team with the elite talent of Real Madrid plus players that are allowed to think for themselves and create chaos with individual brilliance and disorganize that system, the system fails a lot... sure, teams like Everton or Forrest or Burnley have no chance against Guardiola which is why City wins the league every year but teams with real talent and the freedom to play (like Klopp's Liverpool) have a great chance against Guardiola...
@@sportschool3537 Cool story, but the last 2 years Man City played vs Real they made Madrid look like a 2nd division club. Real barely won by the skin of their teeth last year without deserving it and City hammered them in 22-23 so your post is pretty off the mark.
@@aekaralagonisi You read the game wrong... yes, City played the more "attacking football" but at the same time they have conceded a shitload of goals that were all the same story... counter attack, Real Madrid players creating for themselves and City conceding another goal...
And that was against one of the worst Real Madrid teams to ever set foot on a pitch...
My point is that a bad team with very high level talent can beat City cause they beat them 2 out of 3 times... City's game destroys small teams cause they have no individual talent but players with tons of talent and the freedom to create chaos outside City's strict system are City's kryptonite...
Anyway, you only look at it on the surface... I look at the depth beneath cause everything happens for a reason... and if a team loses 2 out 3 times to another team there is a specific reason...
Anyway, I'm not gonna waste my time trying to teach you how to look at a tactical game of football besides who has possession and who plays more "attacking football"
Clearly , kane and palmer need to play front 2 the same as they play for their respective clubs with saka and gordon overlaping them
Yeah. I think that would be a pretty good system to implement, balance is the one of the most important things when trying to create a team.
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You said it dismal England. Completely clueless. Are you seriously saying that Palmer was supposed to be helping Rice as DCM?
I did, Palmer played a deeper role for England which allowed Foden and Bellingham to go and press ahead, for their defensive shape to work, Palmer needed to drop back and sit next to Rice to take away the space that I highlighted, as that’s what a midfielder does. Rice had far too much to do, he needed someone next to him to help him rather than another attacker.
I wouldn’t have played Palmer there but once Palmer is in that position, I think he’s got to help his teammate.
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@@ZekkoFootball So one of the EPL's most creative and goal scoring players is supposed to help Rice in defence? Says it all about his tactics. Ridiculous
Because the game was fixed for the gambling and millions of people betting for england's win lost shitload of money
Don't think the game was fixed, England lost fair and square and deservedly so to a better Greece side.
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