Matosinhos Offers an Interesting Alternative to Living in Porto
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Matosinhos isn't too far from Porto, Portugal but it's technically its own municipality. Josh and Kalie from ExpatsEverywhere check out what this city of its own has to offer. Even though it is connected to Porto by the metro, it has its own beach and lifestyle. They talk about housing prices, green spaces, food, and much more. Could you be an expat here?
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All doubled now. I am from Matosinhos and no less than 500k for 130 sqm near beach
Affordable, cooler weather, close to Porto, walkable, public transportation, beach, and river?! This could be THE place guys!!! Thanks again for such rich presentation! You guys rock! 👍🏾❤
It really, really could be the place. We're pretty sure Ami would move there if she got a visa. It's a little cooler for her English blood and she loves how diverse it is there with the beach, parks, and other activities. Thanks for watching and commenting. - Josh & Kalie
This “new” place looks great! No other site has shown it. I’m in California and planning to make Portugal my place in the next few
years, God willing. I take notes when I watch your family travels. Good work.
Thank you for the comment, Marianne. It's great to hear about your plans. That's pretty cool that you take notes 😁- Josh & Kalie
Thank you for showing us around Portugal. I plan to explore many of the cities you covered in your Portugal tour starting Sunday with Sebutal. Great production and information
You can visit other cities that were not shown, like Aveiro, Viana do Castelo, Póvoa do Varzim, Vila do Conde, Viseu, Leiria, Torres Vedras, Peniche, Torres Novas, Santarém Figueira da Foz, Alcobaça, Vila Real or towns like Ericeira, Nazaré and many others.
Thank you very much, Katrina. Let us know if you need anything and Happy Exploring! - Josh & Kalie
Hey Guys! We are also ex-pats living in Matosinhos! When are we meeting up for a francesinha?
Hey! Kalie is probably taking a break from the little Frenchies but we can meet up anyway. 😁 Email us at info@expatseverywhere.com and we'd be glad to make a visit to Matosinhos to hang because Cia loves it there. 😊 - Josh & Kalie
Thank you for adding to our knowledge base and feeding our curiosity about the cities and neighborhoods of Portugal! ✨🙏✨💚
You're very welcome. We've had a blast doing it. The time is coming to an end though with our awesome production team set to leave next week. We have 1 more city to show you for now...Gaia. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere you’ve all done a fantastic job! We’ll miss them and wish them all the best! Looking forward to your video on Gaia as well as hopefully hearing details on your new apartment! 🤗
@@elizabethreynolds6874 thanks! We’ll miss them too. Cia and both Ami & G are buddies. We hope to link up with them for something new and exciting. Time and CoVid restrictions will tell. - Josh
Thank you for calling out Matosinhos for your ExpatThis imprimateur. It's been top of my list for the past several months and I finally get to see it starting mid-September. Because of this, rather than base my northern scouting location in Porto, we're staying in Matosinhos and launching out from there. Love the proximity to the city park and the walks along the water as well as walking distance to daily needs--groceries, etc. I can see why it has so much appeal and am eager to see it, walk it, live it for real.
Thanks for sharing, Scott. It's a really nice place for sure. Matosinhos has our attention. 😊 - Josh & Kalie
Thanks for this video n thanks for sharing your lovely day in Matosinhos, Portugal.
You're welcome. It was indeed a lovely time filming there. Great weather! - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Wonderful. 😀
I really needed to live vicariously through you guys today - thank you for this! 🙏
🙌🤗 you're welcome and thank you. - Josh & Kalie
How apt…I was walking around Matosinhos two weekends ago. I did a 8km walk from Matosinhos to Porto city. It’s quite a nice wee area and feel like there’s no need to head to Porto city centre. The beach reminds me of Australian beaches and it’s a pleasant walk. The vibe is so different than Lisbon or Cascais. I prefer that bit after Foz do Douro castle and along Cantareira. But defo a place I’d like to come back (especially hardly any tourists) for a walk.
Defenitly a very diferent vibe from Lisbon and the south.....
Completely agree, Sophian. It does have a look of some beach areas in Australian and NZ. We really like Matosinhos. It's great that it's so close. - Josh & Kalie
Thanks for this video. Was not aware of Matosinhos. Am planning my first research for retirement trip to Portugal for 2022. Hardest part is zeroing on desired destination I would want to live. I will certainly add Matosinhos to my list of Porto, Lisbon and Setubal. Keep up the great work.
We understand what you mean, Steven. It's tricky to narrow stuff down. Thanks for the encouragement! 🙌 We will indeed try to keep it up. 💪 - Josh & Kalie
My hometown!!!! Miss Matosinhos so much
🙌 🥳 Hooray for hometowns. - Josh & Kalie
My husband and I are traveling around Portugal, visiting from California. We explored Matosinhos a few days ago and really liked it too! It has a great feel. It was more our style, Porto is too big a city for us.
Thanks for sharing, Debbie. The question is...Would you expat that? #expatthat - Josh & Kalie
I was in Porto and Matosinhos/Foz back Feb/March in 2019. It was a great visit!
Nice, Evan! Thanks for letting us know how you enjoyed it. - Josh & Kalie
Some of the images you showed were of Porto still, like that castle
It's right on the edge of the two where we showed the fort. It's basically a landmark that divides the two similar to the City Park. - Josh & Kalie
You know, I'd consider Matosinhos to be part of Porto, because even though it's a different concelho, this more modern part is continuous with the urban fabric of Porto, so yeah, just like with Gaia, there isn't any difference, except the fact there is a river in between the cities in the latter
*concelho
Walkable cities for the win
True! 🙌 - Josh & Kalie
Did anyone else notice at 1:27 the C class Mercedes with the broke out back quarter window? I guess some things are universal. That salmon looked really good.
The salmon was good! 😋 - Josh & Kalie
I Enjoy watching your channel! Thank you!
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks for watching. - Josh & Kalie
Great video, really excellent, thank you 👍
Thanks! We appreciate the feedback. - Josh & Kalie
Thanks for this very informative video, and by the time you are done filming (I hope not for a long time), you will have produced an encyclopaedia of Portugal cities and towns. So helpful. Looking forward to the next live chat.
Thank you very much, we appreciate the comment and recognition of what we're trying to produce. We're hoping to do this about other places as well. We need another 90 days to get Ami and G back in the country because we can't produce this content without them and with Cia. 😂 - Josh & Kalie
Josh, I have a quick question about credit cards. Do you guys still use US credit cards l(ike Chase Saphire preferred or reserve) in Portugal. I ask because I wonder if I need to keep my chase cards with no transaction fees when I live there. Ones with no foreign transaction fees have an annual fees as you know. But sometimes it is hard to justify the annual fee if I cannot earn points points, which I can do in the US but not in Europe since of chase cards like Chase Freedom in the points system have foreign transaction fees. Also, are there fees for using cards from Portugal in other European countries? I know you have not travelled in other parts of Europe yet, but I wonder if you have any ideas?
@@i0r-r-tjtkttl funny that you ask us this question because we were just talking about it today. During this trip, we probably should have used our card more to be honest so that we could earn points. For daily spending, we just use our Millennium bank card. Tap and go. Most foreign cards work here but they might not work tap and go. We’ve traveled Europe as recently as fall 2019 and we used our US credit cards without any issue. We have an AMEX and a Capital One MasterCard. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Thanks, right US credit cards work fine in Europe, even touchless ones. But do you know if Portuguese credit cards (which I assume I have get when I am there, and I dont know if you have them) will be charged fees for being used in other European countries? I have chase Trifecta, but I can only use the Chase preferred if I want to use any of the us cards because other cards have foreign transaction fees.
Also, I hope you guys rest up after an exhausting tour. I hope you can do just chill videos of the surrounding areas, without too much effort. Will you have a live chat this Sunday? I think people really want to contribute to your show for all your doing.
@@i0r-r-tjtkttl thanks. We don’t have much experience with Portuguese CCs but since it’s Euro to Euro here, we’re betting it’ll work well.
We just finished filming Gaia today. We have 7 videos to edit. Kalie and I still haven’t been able to move into our new apartment but we’re hoping we’re only in the hotel a few more day.
We’re not going to be doing a UA-cam live this weekend but we do have a Patreon only one tomorrow. The support people have given us on our lives has been very helpful but we’ll probably cut back to one a month for a bit. 😃- Josh
This was never on our radar, but it looks good. I think it might be too chilly for my husband, but it's still great to see other areas to explore. thanks as always.
Thanks, Kathy. It's not on many people's radar. - Josh & Kalie
Looks great! Hope you try it!
It's great indeed! - Josh & Kalie
great ! thank you a friend from Gaia mentioned Matosinhos to me a couple of weeks ago ... I might move there !
You're welcome. We're covering Gaia next! 😁 Matosinhos is def. worth a look for those wanting to live in Porto Metro Area. - Josh & Kalie
Hey guys!
Getting one of your t-shirts!
Hi Guys. I like your videos but as a 30yo man from Porto, I’ve noticed that you’re passing some incorrect information on your videos from Porto/Matosinhos. You will not experience min. 4C - max. 10C in Porto/Matosinhos during the winter many times. The normal temperatures will be around min. 9C and max.15C. This is the most common scenario. Sometimes you will experience more. We don’t get snow here like US do for example. Our weather is very mild during the winter. Saying that the average is 4-10 is completely wrong. Porto temperatures are not very different from Lisbon temperatures during winter and we get way less wind than Leiria and Lisbon’s coast. Just so you know, there are a lot of misconceptions about the weather in Portugal. Keep doing what your doing because it’s great but check more sources when it comes to weather and prices please. It’s a small detail but it can instantly change people’s opinion about moving here or any other place.
@@ivans2967 Hi. Every winter is different here in Portugal. Winters can be dry and sunny or a mix of sun and rain from December to February. The most common scenario would a few days of rain mixed with a few sunny days with pleasant temperatures. We never get snow and the weather doesn’t get rainy for more than 3 days in a row. The precipitation quantity can be high but it rains just a few days per week/month. I hope this helps!
@João Magalhães Sometimes ( or years..) even in March and April rains a lot " Abril águas mil" portuguese saying "April thousand waters" 🙂
Sometimes.. you’re right. Not very common especially over the last 2 decades. What I was saying is that is not common at all to have 4C min and 10C max during the winter. That happens like 3 days during a winter month maybe.. Small detail but very important. Incorrect fact that can change people minds.
João, we see the mistake. It was a matter of conversion because our sources showed temperates in the 40s being more like 45 and up but when Kalie said 40s and we were designing the lower thirds, it got converted to 40 F = 4 C when it should have been more like 45 F = 6 or 7 C. Because we're American, our audience should understand that reference as it's a matter of how we generally talk about weather. - Josh & Kalie
@Expats Everywhere I like to see the graphics 🙂 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Porto
Matosinhos has a city hall. Porto park= Porto means port not the municipality of Porto.
you two have literally covered the waterfront! such a big help for planning my relocation
Great to hear! Thanks for the feedback, Susan. - Josh & Kalie
Hi I really enjoyed your video. I just went to Porto and for three days we went to Matoshinos to eat and stroll the seafront. So loved it there that we been thinking of moving there from UK. I wonder if we could email you to ask for your experience living there?
Thanks a lot!
Thanks for watching. Sure, you can send us an email (info@expatseverywhere.com) - Josh & Kalie
Thank you for this info!!!
You're welcome, C C. - Josh & Kalie
Great video! I was just there last week, when I visited Porto. Your videos helped me a lot. Keep it up! 👍
Another great video of Porto neighborhoods Josh n Kalie. I could expat that (Matosinhos)!
Thanks, William. G & Ami made us look better than I did during the neighborhoods of Porto series. - Josh & Kalie
Great timing on this video. Its on our "short list" of places to potentially land and its nice to see it from your perspective. We will definitely be visiting there when we get to Porto next week.
Awesome! We're glad the timing was right. Be on the look out for our Gaia video too. - Josh & Kalie
I guys you must come pass Povoa do varzim or Vila do conde come and visit us
There's so much to cover and G & Ami are on their last few days of their 90 in the Schengen Area. - Josh & Kalie
Thanks for another excellent informative video! We'll be there in January and definitely will be checking out this beautiful city by the beach. Hope to see you then! 👍
You're welcome. Thanks for watching. Reach out when you're getting close to getting here. - Josh & Kalie
Again, I love the way you put an effort for a correct pronunciation (indeed, it is "matusinoush", not "matosinos"). I love your blog.
Thanks, Claudio. We appreciate it. To be honest, we hadn't heard Matosinhos out of the context of European Portuguese so it's an easier because we don't know how to anglicize it as much. Porto is the one we generally always anglicize as Por-toe not Por-too because we use the world in English a lot and of course Lisbon is Lisbon not Lisboa (leesh-boa) 😅 We're trying though. Thanks for the shout out, Claudio. ❤️❤️ Love ya. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere you are the best, really! Greetings.
I was bor there but i live in Alfena
We are sitting in the Pinhais cannery cafe waiting for the tour as I type this comment. We exited the Metro near here then walked to the Castelo do Queijo and back. Even in the clouds and mist, this is a lovely town.
I think it’s a great alternative you have a metro plus you have the sea and the castelo do Queijo, Parque da Cidade…No wonder it’s getting more expensive. I was happy to visit this place again a couple of weeks ago.
What about hospitals, big grocery stores, and walkability? Hospital care what level in town?
third world, you won't find
You have a lot of big grocery stores like Continente, Pingo Doce, and Lidl. Two of the hospitals are CUF and Pedro Hispano. The walkability of Matosinhos is one of its strongest points. As far as the level of care, we don't have firsthand experience. - Josh & Kalie
The Portuguese Association of Hospital Managers advises that 80% of the best hospitals in Portugal are located in the Porto-North Region and 2 of the best 3 are located in the city of Porto. Both hospitals part of the National Healthcare Service. I hope this helps.
@@joaopsmagalhaes Esta gente pensa que somos um país de terceiro mundo, que ignorância, que desconhecimento.
Great Intro to Matos-Zeen-Yosh. Lol
Matosinhos means a little busch.... Matos ( buschs.) inhos it's a sufix that means ...small or little...🙂
Rent prices has changed a lot since then...
Definitely. It's interesting to see the market value then and now. Big jump. Thanks for watching. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere what are the avg prices now for T1/T2 ?
@@אופקקשת €800-1,500 but there are more luxury properties above the €1,500 mark. - Josh
Help me out here guys, I keep hearing one can live in portugal for 2-3k a month very comfortably but looking at airbnb in matosinhos it's pretty hard to find something for less that 2k/month for 3 guests. What are we missing? What's the best way to find reasonable accommodation for a longer stay? We're looking at visiting for 3-6 months to really get the VIBE (lol) of each of the areas of Portugal. Where do you recommend staying for a trip like this? Are there alternatives to airBNB? Obrigado
You're looking on Airbnb, which is going to be higher rates than long term contracts. The cheapest long term stays will be found in general direct to owner/landlord. You'll be hard pressed to keep costs down as low as what it's like living here long term if you're here and only planning to be here medium term (3-6 months). Long term housing owners want to secure people for a year or more with a decent rent. Short to mid-term is looking to maximize profits.
Check out idealista.pt to get a better indication of market rates for properties that work for the 3 of you.
All the best! - Josh
Looks lovely! How would you compare Matosinhos to Viana do Costelo?
Good question! We haven't visited Viana do Costelo yet. We didn't have time during this 90 day project. - Josh & Kalie
For some reason I thought that was on your list, or maybe I just made it up. :)
@@mcp2112 it was on a poll we put out but it didn’t win the poll so we went to Braga.
@@ExpatsEverywhere Well, my SEF appointment is in Viana, so I'll be sure to report back. :)
@@mcp2112 Please do! - Josh & Kalie
Great information! How does Matosinhos housing prices (for purchase) compare with Braga?
Thank you. Rent will be around 20% higher in Matosinhos and for housing 45-65% difference price per square meter depending on where you're buying. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Thank you!!
@@theushistorian You're welcome! - Josh & Kalie
When you go to restaurants can you briefly touch on the vegetarian choices?
I see you did with the non-fish options here, just something really quick would be appreciated!
Hi, we've just wrapped up our 90 days. Ami and G have gone back to the UK and on Sunday we're going to release our 90 Tour of Portugal video.
What we can tell you is that places have some sort of vegetarian option in each city. Be careful to indict if you're vegan. Make that clear because it often times gets confused at places that don't specialize in vegetarian/vegan food. - Josh & Kalie
I've watched your informative videos and my wife and I are wanting to visit for 1-3 months from California. Can you recommend a real estate agent for a furnished 2 bed room apartment in Matosinhos? Thanks
Hey Kevin, thanks for watching. Shoot us an email at info@expatseverywhere.com and we'll try to help you out for sure. - Josh & Kalie
Can you explain what is T1 and T 2
Bedrooms. T# = number of bedrooms. T1-1 bedroom T2- 2 bedrooms. There's a specific classification on what constitutes a bedroom by law in Portugal. The room most certainly needs to have a window. Hope that helps. - Josh & Kalie
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Thanks so much for the video on Matosinhos. Next year on a "scouting trip" to Matosinhos I plan to get a NIF since I no longer need a representative, I'd also like to open an Activo Bank account, do you know if this would require a financial representative? I live in the USA.
Is it pretty flat?
Yes it's a very flat city..I would say similar to Manhattan.....🙂
Definitely pretty flat. - Josh & Kalie
Nearest golf course?
We're not golfers but the closest appears to be in Gaia. www.golfojo.com/jogar-golfe - Josh & Kalie
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Is there a hospital nearby?
Yes it's name is Pedro hispano
@@ebanzi1972 one of the best in the country
Povoa de Varzim is much nicer.
Thanks for sharing. - Josh & Kalie
Stop over hyping things & dont be a thug