I think it's so clever they scripted Meg to say "To happy ends" because in the end she ends up being the cause of the unhappiness, killing Christine. Very clever, the overall plot was decent but the music and scripting is amazing.
I mean I love the music and set I found it creative and fun. But when I watch the Phantom of the Opera and then this I just see all the things that the writer overlooked from the original story to make this narrative and some things just make no sense because of it. Also I didn’t like every song. Under Moonlight Sky was cringey for me as all I could think of was that the two were basically reminiscing about that one time they had sex in the dark which led to Christine conceiving a child. What I didn’t like about it was that this musical claimed that the phantom leaving Christine when she woke up was why she chose Raoul over him and why the main conflict of the original story occurred which if anything painted Raoul in a bad light which I guess made sense for the drunken idiot we get in this one that is nothing like Raoul from the original story.
is no one gonna address the fact that Madam Giry was a mother figure to Christine because she raised her with the ballet girls after her father died, so the reason meg and Christine were so close is because they were basically sisters, but in LND Madam Giry turns her back on her adopted daughter because her biological daughter did not get the fame Christine did, despite how she protected and loved both Meg and Christine equally in POTO. If that isn't one of the worst things in this show, then i don't know what is
StarlightGlimGlam I think Christine just recently lost his father in the musical (three years ago). I think Giry didn’t really raised her in that version.
@@beneddiected I think that her father died around when she's preteen (yeah the "three long years" lyric is not in use right now), then Mamma Valerius adopted her (even if she's not in the musical doesn't mean she's not exist.)
To be fair it was Christine who persuade Raoul to go to American to sing for Phantasma to help him with his debt he didn't want to come to American at all
Honestly after watching the full show stream, I literally thought it was Prima Donna but with a modified tune and lyrics. The last part actually sounds the same as Prima Donna.
Love how when Meg says To happy ends they all look at her likes she’s crazy because A HAPPY ENDING TO PHANTOM OF THE OPERA IR LOVE NEVR DIES PSHHHHH YOURE CRAZY
My dear old friend. Can’t believe you’re here old friend. My dear Christine. My dear Vicomte. What does this mean? What does he want? My grand old friend, I don’t understand, old friend. Maybe it’s a joke. Some silly game. And what his aim is in the end, I couldn’t claim to comprehend, Old friend. It isn’t fair. We need to think. I need some air. I need a drink. My poor old friend. Isn’t this a bore, old friend? I’m still amazed. I’m still confused. I’m feeling dazed. I’m feeling used. And yet, old friends, Let’s not get upset old friends. We can sort this out, I’m sure we will, Without a doubt, Because we’re still, Such grand old friends (Grand old friends). Such devoted and old friends. Back again at last（Back again), With everyone, Isn’t it great? Won’t this be so much fun? With two old friends, trustable and true old friends. Let us raise a glass. To times gone by. To Mister Y. To happy ends. To such sincere, And very dear old friends. Old friends!
It is'nt fair! - Meg We need to think! - Madame Giry I need some air! - Cristine I need a drink! - Raoul I'm still amazed - Cristine I'm still confused - Meg I'm feeling dazed - Madame Giry I'm feeling used - Raoul LMAOOOO!!! My fave parts!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I know Raoul was essentially transformed into a complete jerk in this musical but I honestly think he has a right to be angry here. His wife is knowingly working with a man who tried to hang him. And the reason the Phantom did that in the first place was because he was trying to blackmail her...
@@Bitchita47 I agree that this situation wasn't her fault! She did, however, cheat on her fiance with someone who tried to kill him which was questionable. She ended up choosing that same person, when he was willing to threaten her child just a few days before. This musical was very frustrating to watch!
@@bettinalee5342 Well, you are right... It wasn´t a smart decision at the end. But at least the music is BEAUTIFUL in this show! It compensates it all!
@@Niqhtmusic The people who are so quick to jump on Raoul for being abusive in this musical are also the ones defending the phantom for literal murder, stalking, and blackmail because of his traumatic past. Have they not considered that Raoul is now also traumatized because of what the phantom did to him? Not only that, his wife clearly has feelings for the man who tried to kill him. I don't think trauma actually excuses either of their actions but it's absurd how uneven the scrutiny is.
I never understood why Christine just didn’t marry anyone. They both treated her like a prize rather then a person. Also, the last family gathering I went to I straight up said, “I don’t want to be here. I don’t miss any of you.” That usually made everyone ignore me.
I’m no critic, but in all honesty this show’s music is great, it fits the setting of a carnival, freak-show esque theme very well. The only problem, and a deadly one is the plot and characters’ depth. Phantom was a mysterious, powerful, controlling person, but LND threw all that out of the window. I don’t believe someone could change that radically, especially when some of phantom’s behaviour are instinctual. Not to mention, the conflicts and tensions in LND are shallow in comparison to POTO. The only highlight I would say is the development of Meg’s character. All in all, there’s a reason why musicals adapted from novels tend to do have a greater depth. The complexity of a character’s inner turmoil, background, experience and how that translates into their behaviour, not everyone can capture these nuances. Leave story writing to the professionals the next time.
I like to watch this musical just for the trash fire that it is, which is unironically entertaining. I just have to separate it from POTO, cause the songs are really good tbh.
Red Ginger maybe, but this is before Phantom even gives him the idea, and he sounds very surprised in devil take the hindmost. It could be from the trauma ten years ago of him being hung in front of his lover being forced to watch them kiss.
@@Niqhtmusic in the song beneath a moonless sky, they explain that after Christine left with Raoul she came back the night before their wedding and she and the phantom, well ya know. she planned on staying with him, but he didn't think he was good enough for her do he left in the middle of the night and she went back to Raoul when she woke up alone.
To me this makes no sense because Christine was like madam girys(?) daughter!! And megs best friend plus in the end of tpoto they go and try to put him in jail or something so the fact that now she wants him to appreciate her and just the fact that they work for him and semi hat Christine just makes no sense lol
Passive Aggressive: The Musical
Cutsie Productions 😂😂
How dare you! You are so rude!
Megan Hoover you have no sense of humor
Omg haha
This deserves more likes
Everyone looks so uncomfortable it's hilarious
I think christine has no idea whats happening but she can feel everyone being uncomfortable and that makes it even funnier
@@SpiderTNT. HOW DARE YOU! ITS NOT FUNNY, ITS SERIOUS! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
BRUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS NOT FUNNY! IF ANYTHING IS FUNNY ITS HOW RUDE YOU ARE!
@@brightfordd8688 sorry if i offended you, what exactly is wrong with thinking this is funny? how does that make us rude?
@@brightfordd8688 girl, calm the hell down. it's not that serious. and no one was being rude to anyone
I think it's so clever they scripted Meg to say "To happy ends" because in the end she ends up being the cause of the unhappiness, killing Christine. Very clever, the overall plot was decent but the music and scripting is amazing.
Finally someone who doesn't make fun of it and is serious. I agree.
I mean I love the music and set I found it creative and fun. But when I watch the Phantom of the Opera and then this I just see all the things that the writer overlooked from the original story to make this narrative and some things just make no sense because of it. Also I didn’t like every song. Under Moonlight Sky was cringey for me as all I could think of was that the two were basically reminiscing about that one time they had sex in the dark which led to Christine conceiving a child. What I didn’t like about it was that this musical claimed that the phantom leaving Christine when she woke up was why she chose Raoul over him and why the main conflict of the original story occurred which if anything painted Raoul in a bad light which I guess made sense for the drunken idiot we get in this one that is nothing like Raoul from the original story.
And here we have rare footage of introverts in a family gathering
0:31 "I need a drink!"
No you don't Raoul no you don't
XD
Devil take the hind-most
Ikr!
is no one gonna address the fact that Madam Giry was a mother figure to Christine because she raised her with the ballet girls after her father died, so the reason meg and Christine were so close is because they were basically sisters, but in LND Madam Giry turns her back on her adopted daughter because her biological daughter did not get the fame Christine did, despite how she protected and loved both Meg and Christine equally in POTO. If that isn't one of the worst things in this show, then i don't know what is
Yngistn what could possibly happen to her in those ten years smh
Is Giry really her adoptive mom in Musical? I'm sure it's only 2004 movies
StarlightGlimGlam I think Christine just recently lost his father in the musical (three years ago). I think Giry didn’t really raised her in that version.
@@beneddiected I think that her father died around when she's preteen (yeah the "three long years" lyric is not in use right now), then Mamma Valerius adopted her (even if she's not in the musical doesn't mean she's not exist.)
Actually Christine lost her father “2 years ago, and still mourning” as described I believe but I don’t know exactly
coming back to school after summer like
Haha
Coming back to school after covid be like
Can you say Sarcasm!!! This is such a good song for comic relief because they're all just like " I would have been fine never seeing you again"
Christine looks so uncomfortable and I'm living for it 😂
raoul said " I feel so used"....yet he is the one who is technically using christine to pay off his debt
To be fair it was Christine who persuade Raoul to go to American to sing for Phantasma to help him with his debt he didn't want to come to American at all
this is almost the same as prima donna in the original phantom of the opera
Uses the same sort of idea with the four characters singing their own verses over the top of each other. ALW seems to have a thing for that
Honestly this is better... Funnier lyrics and more interaction.
@@LSSYLondon its still a very clever thing to do and shows what a good composer ALW actually is.
Honestly after watching the full show stream, I literally thought it was Prima Donna but with a modified tune and lyrics. The last part actually sounds the same as Prima Donna.
Every High School Reunion - the Musical!
Jerk.
Megan Hoover Jerk
At 0:50 Raoul's facial expression drastically changes in the space of 1 second. This is another reason why you can see that their blatantly faking it
Love how when Meg says To happy ends they all look at her likes she’s crazy because A HAPPY ENDING TO PHANTOM OF THE OPERA IR LOVE NEVR DIES PSHHHHH YOURE CRAZY
"I'm feeling used." Ugh. The emotions.
Seeing your friends after quarantine
This song is so cleverly timed and perfectly uses the rhyming
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who loves this musical😭
REALLLLL
I love this musical, as much as a I love the original Phantom of the Opera. Especially, the Australian production, reminds me of Comedia del Arte.
My dear old friend.
Can’t believe you’re here old friend.
My dear Christine.
My dear Vicomte.
What does this mean?
What does he want?
My grand old friend,
I don’t understand, old friend.
Maybe it’s a joke.
Some silly game.
And what his aim is in the end,
I couldn’t claim to comprehend,
Old friend.
It isn’t fair.
We need to think.
I need some air.
I need a drink.
My poor old friend.
Isn’t this a bore, old friend?
I’m still amazed.
I’m still confused.
I’m feeling dazed.
I’m feeling used.
And yet, old friends,
Let’s not get upset old friends.
We can sort this out,
I’m sure we will,
Without a doubt,
Because we’re still,
Such grand old friends (Grand old friends).
Such devoted and old friends.
Back again at last（Back again),
With everyone,
Isn’t it great?
Won’t this be so much fun?
With two old friends, trustable and true old friends.
Let us raise a glass.
To times gone by.
To Mister Y.
To happy ends.
To such sincere,
And very dear old friends.
Old friends!
It is'nt fair! - Meg
We need to think! - Madame Giry
I need some air! - Cristine
I need a drink! - Raoul
I'm still amazed - Cristine
I'm still confused - Meg
I'm feeling dazed - Madame Giry
I'm feeling used - Raoul
LMAOOOO!!! My fave parts!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh my God...are other thing more sensual,loving,intense than this duet??? Really love Beneath a Moonless Sky
Ok love pop off
I know Raoul was essentially transformed into a complete jerk in this musical but I honestly think he has a right to be angry here. His wife is knowingly working with a man who tried to hang him. And the reason the Phantom did that in the first place was because he was trying to blackmail her...
Bettina Lee Which is not her fault. What would you do if someone was threatening your child? Poor woman!
@@Bitchita47 I agree that this situation wasn't her fault! She did, however, cheat on her fiance with someone who tried to kill him which was questionable. She ended up choosing that same person, when he was willing to threaten her child just a few days before. This musical was very frustrating to watch!
@@bettinalee5342 Well, you are right... It wasn´t a smart decision at the end. But at least the music is BEAUTIFUL in this show! It compensates it all!
Bettina Lee I mean- Yeah. He hung him... so I agree
@@Niqhtmusic The people who are so quick to jump on Raoul for being abusive in this musical are also the ones defending the phantom for literal murder, stalking, and blackmail because of his traumatic past. Have they not considered that Raoul is now also traumatized because of what the phantom did to him? Not only that, his wife clearly has feelings for the man who tried to kill him. I don't think trauma actually excuses either of their actions but it's absurd how uneven the scrutiny is.
The thing with this christine is that she always looks mildly uncomfortable.
Which makes it more beautiful. Anyone in Christines Position would really feel uncomfortable with whats happening. Lol
Yeah. I like her facial expresion a lot. But oh dear the songs are soooooooooooooooo boring when she tags with phanton
The sense of impending doom I have every time I watch this... 😭
I never understood why Christine just didn’t marry anyone. They both treated her like a prize rather then a person. Also, the last family gathering I went to I straight up said, “I don’t want to be here. I don’t miss any of you.” That usually made everyone ignore me.
All due respect but if you didn’t want to be there then why did you even go?
@@Annahg78 free food
@@ingridaguero6460 Fair enough. Free is good right? 😃
And this great, wholesome moment took place because of me. See? I brought the " old gang " back together!😏
I’m no critic, but in all honesty this show’s music is great, it fits the setting of a carnival, freak-show esque theme very well. The only problem, and a deadly one is the plot and characters’ depth. Phantom was a mysterious, powerful, controlling person, but LND threw all that out of the window. I don’t believe someone could change that radically, especially when some of phantom’s behaviour are instinctual. Not to mention, the conflicts and tensions in LND are shallow in comparison to POTO. The only highlight I would say is the development of Meg’s character.
All in all, there’s a reason why musicals adapted from novels tend to do have a greater depth. The complexity of a character’s inner turmoil, background, experience and how that translates into their behaviour, not everyone can capture these nuances. Leave story writing to the professionals the next time.
This is the best musical movie for ever, I cry for this viod3o 😭😭😭
My 10 year high school reunion summed up in one song.
Throwing babies
I love this Raoul :)
"I'm feeling used 😕"
*Meg lookin like Cosette man*
Nobody is commenting about how Christine doesnt hit the right note at the end.
wowzer What are you talking about? She sings on point!
it’s meant to be like that.... ~✨harmonization✨~
Shame that the plot of LND is so unsatisfying. If the plot is better the LND songs should be classics!
I hate what you said! ALW worked so hard, and you call it "unsatisfying."
Megan Hoover people are allowed to state their opinions
working hard doesn't mean it's always good
@@brightfordd8688 the ending was predictable and clichê
Megan Hoover Are you meganohamey? Because if so, you are very rude and don’t know how to sit down. People are allowed to have opinions
Did Raoul get shorter
when they all rhyme I'm like dude you meeting your friends was wrong and its shouldn't Madame Giry be older like having a cane and don't judge me!
I like to watch this musical just for the trash fire that it is, which is unironically entertaining. I just have to separate it from POTO, cause the songs are really good tbh.
geez what happened to raoul
Its not easy when you know your child isnt yous XDDD thats my theory. He grow bitter because he realizes that his child isnt his.
Red Ginger maybe, but this is before Phantom even gives him the idea, and he sounds very surprised in devil take the hindmost. It could be from the trauma ten years ago of him being hung in front of his lover being forced to watch them kiss.
hannah joerger he became a jerk but also when did they do that to get a child I’m so confused omg
@@Niqhtmusic in the song beneath a moonless sky, they explain that after Christine left with Raoul she came back the night before their wedding and she and the phantom, well ya know. she planned on staying with him, but he didn't think he was good enough for her do he left in the middle of the night and she went back to Raoul when she woke up alone.
PTSD
Please put Love Never Dies on sale
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Who is stuck at home?
Haha, so "sincere"
I always felt that LND could’ve worked if they didn’t use the characters from POTO. Other than that, it’s a good musical.
This song singlehandedly destroyed the images of the characters we know and love
well this and mother did you see also bathing beauty
To me this makes no sense because Christine was like madam girys(?) daughter!! And megs best friend plus in the end of tpoto they go and try to put him in jail or something so the fact that now she wants him to appreciate her and just the fact that they work for him and semi hat Christine just makes no sense lol