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Mentalization Based Treatment Training Video with Anthony Bateman - Equivalence
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- Psychic equivalence is a non-mentalizing mode. It must be addressed in treatment when it arises but can be difficult to shift. The issue is not what the patient believes but how he holds the belief and experience. Do not challenge the content. In this clip the patient is talking about her experience of a court usher, the person who runs the court process, and is sure that the people in the court room are trying to ‘wind her up’.
In this video Anthony Bateman demonstrates the importance of initially accepting psychic equivalence and the need to question gently and continuously psychic equivalence as much as possible. For a full commentary of this training video, please visit: MBT Training Resources - www.annafreud.... and www.annafreud....
Please note, the patient is played by an actress.
This is awesome. I really recognise myself in the woman.
Wow. Just absolutely wow! I became interested in this sort of content to help someone in my life who just learned they had BPD because I want to better support them as they try to work through it and I feel knowledge is the only way for me to be able to do that. Gaining first-hand support seemed the most relevant way to help, but just seriously wow! This is something entirely different!
I don't think I could even BEGIN to help someone who was so resolutely assured of delusional persecution like this! I mean, there is nothing or no one who could've ever convinced her that that woman WASN'T a malicious hell hound sent to personally ruin her life and was just a completely normal, unrelated woman doing her job, who probably never even spared her a second thought! She was utterly convinced she was placed there just to make her miserable!
Even the counselor's attempt to empathize and relate to her position was attacked as an offensive insensitivity to her imagined oppression! Short of constant ingratiation, how do you even speak to someone who's so determined to be offended?? The first step to fixing a problem is acknowledging what the problem is, but how do you acknowledge it if no one is ever allowed to tell you what it is??
Scary. How am I gonna be able to talk to a therapist like that? Seems like a huge step to take. I'm supposed to start tomorrow.
Remo I hope things worked out for you.
I'm writing an article about this type of therapy. Could you tell me if this worked please.
@@trinajournodawes6823 It was taxing for sure, there was a lot of awkward silence where I didn't know how to respond. But I think it gradually got me to be more curious about how others think and feel. I don't feel threatened by strangers as I did before, at least not as much. The most helpful part for me were the group sessions, with 5-8 participants and 2 therapists. The one on one sessions felt more confrontative. It was much more helpful to me than DBT. In general I feel much better now with less anxiety and suicidal thoughts. Thank you for asking.
@@trinajournodawes6823 I'd love to read the article, could you let me know when it comes out?
@@FrancisNortonLondon Yes it should be ready within the next two weeks I will share it here.
I'm not sure what he is trying to do here. He sort of steps into her world but only long enough to justify a teaching point (you are sensitive). Does that help anyone? I'm a believer that true, genuine empathy helps the client feel understood to the point that they find their own solutions, not preached to by a therapist about how they should be.
What about asking the question: Does this feeling in the court remind you of another time in your life? Welcome the exploration, rather than 'should' it away.
I recognise myself in this Woman,but i cant help but think the therapist is kind of patronising..i start MBT in two weeks😳
"I'm not overly sensitive"..
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Leading to rupture?
Excelente material.... muy valioso...
I would be really nervous just talking to her.. Afraid to say something "obvious" :-D
Or afraid of having his add extra meaning onto what you've said "over-sensitive" when what he stated is "sensitive".
No matter what, you're still walking on eggshells.
She corrected herself, showing that she ACCURATELY heard him say "sensitive" but interpreted it to mean "too sensitive" or "overly sensitive".
Exhausting work...
@@le_th_ I'm so sorry that it is exhausting work. We shall do our best to make the therapy easier on the therapist.
Lol I see myself in her too... It feels like everyone's out to get me
I appreciate this is an actress(a rather good one) playing this part, but imagine the fathers on the other side of this. They are in need of support just to deal with this type of anger and probably won't get it. Without good levels of understanding you are fighting a losing battle with compulsive mindreaders 9/10.
Sadly, the links in the description no longer work
Thank you for pointing this out.
for more details about MBT with Children, young people and their families: www.annafreud.org/training/mentalization-based-treatments-with-children-young-people-and-families/mentalization-based-treatments-with-children-young-people-and-families/
for more information about MBT with Adults: www.annafreud.org/training/mentalization-based-treatment-adults/
thank you! the link does not work. please update @@AnnaFreudNCCF