i have an anti social personality disorder i am 70 and was diagnosed with a personality disorder 45 years ago during a brief stay in prison. I was not told what a personality disorder was nor which type i had. My condition has been left largely untreated and my life and those lives i have touched have been hell . This video is the best insight i have had for my condition in the 45 years i have been diagnosed. I am a loner , i am always alone even though i have been married for over 30 years i have no blood relatives in my country . The treatment seems to be group therapy something i have always hated because you have to be honest there is a saying " you cant kid a kidder" wheras one to one therapy i found that i was not that honest.
🦋 I am so sorry that it has taken and is still taking in so many respects so very long for us humans to understand each other. Blessings and love to you and those you have encountered on this life’s journey. 🙏🏾💜🦋
I wish the court system where I live was as progressive as this. Unfortunately, what they offer for therapy is outdated and they don’t seem to care about rehabilitation as much as being punitive. Often it seems to make things worse.
i know why they are so humorous, because they have a deep structure of sarcasm against them selfes. .just not taking anything really serious. its a way of self protection.
It’s really funny to me because it’s my great grandfather’s surname and I got to study with Dr. Bateman last year in the group and practitioner training.
Am going though this now and it’s hard the psychologist wants to know your emotions and triggers but having a personality disorder. Your not in touch with your emotions
@@GamesCooky it’s probably a bit of both I had a traumatic upbringing the Forensic psychologist told me the last session we had that I cringed when she talks about emotions
@@joshveall7092 Do you get uncomfortable when other people talk about their emotions? If so, why do you think you get uncomfortable? Is it because you perhaps find it difficult to relate?
@@joshveall7092 Well, i can't say that i disagree. Unfortunately emotions don't seem to simply go away. Apparently they're still kind of lurking in the background, even if you might not feel much. Do you experience a lot of anger for what seems like no reason?
i've read some studies that achieve and improve the cooperation using particular interests of the patient, but it was nor clear How this individual had behave after jail.
Omg. It’s exhausting being the enemy. The paranoia is exhausting. The lies are exhausting. I was exhausted. I started started to uncontrollably jerk when he was around. The jokes made me sick. I’m paranoid he’s going to randomly show up. Cuz he does. Scared he’s gonna break in. Cuz he has. Idk. This disorder is completely unstable and hopeless to me sometimes.
That’s the ticket, use talk therapy to rationally persuade sociopaths and psychopaths that they should be nice. Start with a pledge to be honorable to impress them to be “good”. Never apply the principles of behaviorism. That might hurt their feelings. Let me know how it works out. Measure it by the crime rate.
Well, unless if you’ve worked with people who have these traits, I would not be so negative. These folks are usually traumatized people, and as society we need to find best ways than just prisons.. that we have to pay in our taxes..
Behaviorism isn't just about punishment. Behaviorism is also about reinforcement. The people he's treating are inmates. The punishment is already happening. Still, the old ways of being need to be replaced with new ones. Teaching communication strategies, self-monitoring, cognitive flexibility is not "persuading sociopaths to be nice". It's a whole set of new behaviors that needs to be witnessed, believed in, experienced, discussed, practiced…and reinforced in real time to for the behavior to be acquired by the individual. You can't do all that with punishment alone.
This may work on the significantly less intelligent subjects, however, though you explain it as you may, for more intelligently advanced persons, this would have absolutely no effect.
I'm not sure about your hypothesis there. AsPD is hard to treat but I think it very much pivots on whether or not the individual patient wants to change after looking at his situation.
group therapy is very different. the group as an extra living thing is more intelligent than any singe one, because its bild by the collective inconcious and its really doing stuff .
i have an anti social personality disorder i am 70 and was diagnosed with a personality disorder 45 years ago during a brief stay in prison. I was not told what a personality disorder was nor which type i had. My condition has been left largely untreated and my life and those lives i have touched have been hell . This video is the best insight i have had for my condition in the 45 years i have been diagnosed. I am a loner , i am always alone even though i have been married for over 30 years i have no blood relatives in my country . The treatment seems to be group therapy something i have always hated because you have to be honest there is a saying " you cant kid a kidder" wheras one to one therapy i found that i was not that honest.
🦋 I am so sorry that it has taken and is still taking in so many respects so very long for us humans to understand each other. Blessings and love to you and those you have encountered on this life’s journey. 🙏🏾💜🦋
I wish the court system where I live was as progressive as this. Unfortunately, what they offer for therapy is outdated and they don’t seem to care about rehabilitation as much as being punitive. Often it seems to make things worse.
impressive, very nice. Lets look at Paul Allens Psychotherapy for Antisocial Personality Disorder
Lol😂😂
I'm high functioning diagnosed AsPD and I mastered cognitive empathy but I'd love to chat with this gentleman, interesting video
Proud of you for mastering cognitive empathy, may emotional be next for you. 💛
@@Lilyso4895 thanks but regarding emotional, highly doubtful
@@fridgeanon with God all things are possible.
@@Lilyso4895 I dont believe in god, stop preaching, annoying shit.
Also who said Id even want emotional empathy.
I dont.
Sounds exhausting.
4:07 it is really stunning how they function and are being adressed
i know why they are so humorous, because they have a deep structure of sarcasm against them selfes. .just not taking anything really serious. its a way of self protection.
Isn’t it most ironic that his surname is Bateman
yeah
Yes, it is! 🤦🏾♀️🤣
True
It’s really funny to me because it’s my great grandfather’s surname and I got to study with Dr. Bateman last year in the group and practitioner training.
You mean insanity
Thank you for this video
Great insight and helpful
very good video 🙌🏻
Tough one.
I would think working with that sense of humor might actually be a bridge to teaching them what empathy is
no, the humor comes from a problem. they can not take anything serious at last.
I wish I could go through this therapy. :/
Bateman might actually be the best 'nomen est omen' unconscious treatment modality for working with aspd client.s
Am going though this now and it’s hard the psychologist wants to know your emotions and triggers but having a personality disorder. Your not in touch with your emotions
Do you feel emotionally detached, or is it more like strong uncontrollable feelings that you can't explain?
@@GamesCooky it’s probably a bit of both I had a traumatic upbringing the Forensic psychologist told me the last session we had that I cringed when she talks about emotions
@@joshveall7092
Do you get uncomfortable when other people talk about their emotions?
If so, why do you think you get uncomfortable?
Is it because you perhaps find it difficult to relate?
@@GamesCooky yea to me Emotions are a weakness
@@joshveall7092 Well, i can't say that i disagree. Unfortunately emotions don't seem to simply go away.
Apparently they're still kind of lurking in the background, even if you might not feel much.
Do you experience a lot of anger for what seems like no reason?
i've read some studies that achieve and improve the cooperation using particular interests of the patient, but it was nor clear How this individual had behave after jail.
What does Robert o Hare think of this??
my jokes are really good🥺😔
Omg. It’s exhausting being the enemy. The paranoia is exhausting. The lies are exhausting. I was exhausted. I started started to uncontrollably jerk when he was around. The jokes made me sick. I’m paranoid he’s going to randomly show up. Cuz he does. Scared he’s gonna break in. Cuz he has. Idk. This disorder is completely unstable and hopeless to me sometimes.
That’s the ticket, use talk therapy to rationally persuade sociopaths and psychopaths that they should be nice. Start with a pledge to be honorable to impress them to be “good”. Never apply the principles of behaviorism. That might hurt their feelings.
Let me know how it works out. Measure it by the crime rate.
Well, unless if you’ve worked with people who have these traits, I would not be so negative. These folks are usually traumatized people, and as society we need to find best ways than just prisons.. that we have to pay in our taxes..
Behaviorism isn't just about punishment. Behaviorism is also about reinforcement. The people he's treating are inmates. The punishment is already happening. Still, the old ways of being need to be replaced with new ones.
Teaching communication strategies, self-monitoring, cognitive flexibility is not "persuading sociopaths to be nice". It's a whole set of new behaviors that needs to be witnessed, believed in, experienced, discussed, practiced…and reinforced in real time to for the behavior to be acquired by the individual. You can't do all that with punishment alone.
This may work on the significantly less intelligent subjects, however, though you explain it as you may, for more intelligently advanced persons, this would have absolutely no effect.
I'm not sure about your hypothesis there. AsPD is hard to treat but I think it very much pivots on whether or not the individual patient wants to change after looking at his situation.
group therapy is very different. the group as an extra living thing is more intelligent than any singe one, because its bild by the collective inconcious and its really doing stuff .
I’m sure this guy should know the prognosis for ASPD is incredibly bleak. They are wired differently. Pure evil plain and simple
That depends on whether they’re born that way or created via trauma. You just have to rationalise with them and keep them away from bad environments.