2007 Silverado 4L60E Input Drum Rebuild and Air Test (Ep.5)
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- In great detail, we will cover the disassembly of the input drum, clean it up, and then reassemble it with new parts. Of course, this is the continuing series of videos covering the transmission rebuild of the 4L60E out of a 2007 Chevy Silverado. This is a tricky process and there are a lot of considerations to make when setting up the clutch packs within the input drum. We will cover some of those details and hopefully discussion will happen in the comments section as well since there are far too many setup options, opinions, and aftermarket parts to cover in one video!
Dates of filming: June 21st, 2018 (Input drum rebuild)
June 26th, 2018 (Stator bushing replacement, final air test)
Song List (Order of First Appearance):
0:01 Where I am From - Topher Mohr and Alex Elena
6:05 Hit My Soul - Silent Partner
11:33 Parasail - Silent Partner
16:43 Succotash - Silent Partner
21:07 Get Back Up - Silent Partner
(All music provided by UA-cam's Audio Library royalty free.)
Thanks for watching, and joining us on this adventure! Please let us know what you think! Consider supporting us via Patreon as well! / fuzzydiceprojects
Here is a list of resources that can help when rebuilding one of these transmissions (none of these are sponsors, just handy resources!):
Rebuild manual I used to follow-along with (though I wouldn't rely on it 100%):
GM 4L60/4L60E Rebuild Procedures by Cliff McCormick
Many special tips and tricks, as well as tools for this rebuild:
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Exploded view diagrams for MANY different transmissions:
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Some pretty specific information (though some is biased) and a good chart to diagnose transmission issues):
www.drivetrain....
And here are Wholesale GM Parts Online links to several pages for this specific 2007 model transmission. This website has saved me several times and is the single best free resource I know for hi-res diagrams specific to your vehicle and cooresponding part numbers and information.
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Love how your videos are so peaceful and not like other people with some crappy music that hurts your ears.
Really appreciate all your vids and your subtle humor :)
Just found you about a week ago and already watched all your videos. Awesome job man! Keep it up. Awesome seeing someone not scared of getting their hands dirty.
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What a beast of a rebuild you've taken on!
This video is the #1 reason why I will never attempt my own rebuild and why most shops don't do a good job of rebuilding them.
Your a pussy that's why scared limitations don't get u nowhere virgin boy
The reference to the movie "Thinner" is well blended in. Nice one there, mate.
A mechanic in my country messed up the transmission of Silverado 2011 & It priced me ~$4000usd, and I nicknamed him “the hammer-man” because he started with hammer & finished with hammer with little use of skill & almost 000000.000001 use of his brain; but as of now, I repaired it on my own with 0000000... mistakes & ur video is one which I used for leak test & it was very useful. Learned & inspired to be a mechanic.
Your the best like ChrisFix
Just awesome man. Thanks a ton for doing what you're doing. Keep up the great work!!
I like what u did with the parts diagramin the corner
Thanks for the feedback! Since this assembly has a lot of parts and it may be tricky to follow along without having it in front of you I was hoping that would help.
@@FuzzyDiceProjects IS THE BACKING PLATE TOTALLY NECESSARY? IVE A THICKER STEEL THAT CAME WITH MY RED EAGLE ALTO PACK
Relaxed fit 😂😂😂
Love your videos man...They are GREAT for step by step tutorials and filming is 👌🏻good job man 🙌🏻
Very professional demonstration & use of interesting way of expression. Used it for my Silverado 2011 input drum test & made up my confidence. Blessings, bro. 10q............⭐️
Great job in a clear spoken well lite video as explained to Joshua Leeds post below. Most good folks have know idea what techs go through in a single day or a week. This is our jobs and we never get paid enough from a dealer or most independent shops. Did I mention no A/C or comfy chair or the thousands in good tools? Blessings dude!
Retired but ASE Master since 1978. It said DATSUN in the front of my workplace. Nice!
another technique that i saw for installing teflon seals is using a zip tie but flip it, so it doesnt click. I saw someone use this technique to installing VW fuel injector seals!
Interesting! I suppose that would work as well, though I can't picture getting it quite as tight around the rings. At least it would let you re-use the tie more easily.
Thanks from Puerto Rico 🙋🏻♂️
best video I have seen on trans rebuild so far.
holy shit, and people wonder why it costs so much to rebuild a transmission..lol
Yup, might only be $400-$600 in parts, its the several full days of labor that racks up the cost...
Yep, And that is the low end with newer updated must have parts for longevity. Also in 2017 dollars.
ASE Master Tech/ 1978 + L1, P2
GOOD WORK
I guess mechanic must love having a manual trans to rebuild cause there much more simple xD
Very good very informative
Dig your "Thinner" reference. Mint!
Jeeze! Those Teflon rings look like a nightmare to install 😂 tough luck about that stator bushing too 🤦🏻♂️Very cool to watch how those fluid passages engage the pressure plates! 😎
Now I see why transmissiossions fail so often so many parts, I wont even begin on a CVT.
I have only an inkling of an idea of what's going on in these videos, but they're still entertaining as fuck.
All the pictures you put are funny
I am only 3 mins into this video and all I can say is "Geez.... this is more complicated than a complicated thing"
Ian,I done this for over 35 years. @ least your smart enough to see the complexity of an automatic transmission.
These videos are entertaining but some things require EXPERIENCE!....Even seasoned builders cut a lip seal or sealing ring without knowing it so imagine someone with zero experience.My Wife wants me to start an online teaching deal to help folks who just don't want to get ripped,But understand as the man who put up this video knows this is HARDER than it looks.
Take care brother😁
@@packingten I am smart enough to realise that there is scope for many things to go wrong and half way through suddenly you may realise that you need yet another specialised piece or tool which is only available on back order! Assembling an engine block is one thing but automatic transmission!!! Can only begin to guess how fiendishly complicated (not to mention expensive!) the 8 speed automatic is on my Porsche Cayenne.
Yeah boy been waiting for this
Good general life advice
Installing that snap ring on the overrun clutch piston (s) retainer by pushing it down will scratch the input housing by pushing and scraping with the snap ring, The gouge you leave in the Forward clutch housing causes a stress concentration, especially high horsepower applications and can cause it to crack resulting in no motion, additionally, yes, the Spragg does hold one way in free turn the other but you need to make sure that you tell them which way it free turns and which way it holds. And all that transmission fluid is completely not necessary. That is more an opportunity for dust and dirt contamination which a 4L60E is very sensitive to. If you learned all this on your own, congratulations, if somebody taught you this, they taught you some mistakes. Additionally, when you were installing your 3/4 clutchs, you put the wide tabs in the widest slot, (which mean your load release springs can’t now go in there) they’re supposed to go to the Narrow slots for more surface area contact. In Essence you have overstressed your three Four drum. Also, you should mesasure your clutch Pat clearance with thea Spragg out of the unit and the clutch plates dry dry.. you over drove the bush or deformed the driven end by using a socket and not a bushing driver.and that’s the only reason it hangs up, I did it several times in the beginning as well. All that being said, your video is great, I love the presentation and the music, not the overwhelming guitar riff that most everybody else plays
Ready to see it action
Great video, we sell a lot of the 4L60E transmissions.
Ahhh yes!! Brilliant!!!!
Fantastic thank you so much for this video
You removed the 3/4 clutch pack snap ring from the wrong end. The scarf cut is to facilitate installation, flat and goes in first and out first, the scarf cut overlap so it doesn’t collide with the square cut end. The “Boost” as Springs you say are load release springs they prevent the inadvertent application of the 3/4 clutch pack during very high RPMs
Great video!
Fantastic video. Very interesting thumbs up 👍
Really good job ,great video, very informative.
The most impressive part is wearing those gloves and not flipping out in frustration.
Really good video, thanks
Blow shop air into the nearest hole to the drum to remove all the pistons at once.
You can also assemble the entire forward piston assembly on the bench and install it into the drum as one unit
I don't know why, but I haven't had luck with that method! Ends up being too fiddly so I just install things one at a time. Probably just me though.
And good point about using air to remove parts faster!
Did anyone see the smiley face on the stator bushing?
Getting your transmission rebuilt around where i like costs around $2.5k to $3.2k
You can get Remans for that price, depending on car, and if available.
Rebuild on my 2000 Blazer was 5k. Actually, I think it was a full swap with a refurb...
@@stickit2theman1 Do you really paid 5k for a 4L60E ?
@@pedrohernandez8516 well *I* didn't, if you want to get technical. It was my Dad. I was ready to scrap the fucker.
Root Note-Evan I’m a transmission builder with 26 years of Experience.I would love to have clients who value my work and pay what is fair. I could build a 4L60E with all the upgrades for half that price.
Great. Video
I hear what you say about the pieces of transparent film.....but I don't understand how it's applied.
Good job and keep up the good work....
"But don't check shaft wiggle room in public" Ahhh it's perfect how you Slid that joke in there :p
Thanks that's was helpful...
Great videos, I have a question when you tested the 3,4 clutch on the pump what if you hear and see bubbles coming out of the pump housing. Us that normal or us the pump needs to be replaced
Are you ever going to rebuild that again? Wouldn't the red threadlocker make it really hard to replace bushings in the future?
Yes yes love it man
Better suspense than anything in Netflix! EP 5 and still don't know the issue. Did I missed the problem reveal?
Jaime Flores I’m not sure this is 100% true but I think he said that he’s only rebuilding the transmission because he pulled it out and has parts, but now he’s pretty sure the issue is in the transfer case judging how the transmission looks
Yep, exactly correct! Other than the usual wear from miles and slightly burned fluid, there wasn't really anything wrong with the transmission. I already had the parts and figured that I might as well refresh it and do a video series to cover it while it was out of the truck.
Spoiler alert? I guess I missed that part... but I'm still watching the whole series! Maybe a couple of times. Great work!
Work looks good! However, it's best not to wipe anything down, comp air dry is best
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I had a 4l60e rebuilt and now just put it in and it starts out in like 3rd gear why? How do I correct this like it's in limp mode .Have to give it like 2500 rpms to move. Wish I would of done it myself using your great videos like I did my dodge 46re .
Inn-Putt Drum resonates at Eb
Where did you get the wide front stator shaft bushing numbered “35627C” ?
Alto, Sonnax or other? Thanks.
Your good man good videos
grate video
YEAH BOY!
I think the clearances should be checked prior to soaking the frictions in trans fluid
I admit, I'm not entirely sure on that one. Just as some people don't think soaking the frictions is necessary, I have heard that brought up before but reached no conclusion on it either way. If there is some swelling that occurs, I wouldn't think the clearance would change more than a few thousandths at most and unless it is some sort of super-precise performance application I doubt it would be worth worrying about.
1:35 😂 I know the feeling
Is the snap ring for the 3/4 clutch thinner ? I tried fitting it in mine and it work
"More good general life advice" thanks captain obvious 🤣🤣🤣
Yay
May seem trivial but did you ever figure out why that bearing was too small?
Nope! I can only assume it was some sort of manufacturing flaw. I have never seen one, but it's possible there exists a slightly undersized bearing that would fit better with worn parts. Most likely just some sort of QC error though.
@@FuzzyDiceProjects I was thinking maybe you got a bearing for 298mm shaft they are slightly smaller in diameter then the later model 4l60 transmissions
I have seen the older model bushings, and they are visibly thicker than the newer ones. It looked up the dimensions for those bushings (Sonnax 35007A (1984+ thin wall) and 35007B (1982-84 thick wall) and the thin ID is 1.004", thick ID is 0.908". That is a much larger difference than the bushings I installed here, they were identical to the naked eye, probably only different by 0.005" or so. Looking at the numbers, I wonder if the small one had an ID of exactly 1.000" for whatever reason. Would be different enough it wouldn't fit.
where do you get the transparency film?
More videos!
great videos. would you have any idea why my 98 4L60E seems to bind for a quick second after I approach a stop and it downshifts from 2nd to 1st? Say I'm cruising and I approach a stop and I get the 2-1 downshift I feel a bit of a clunk, then if I go after a second or two, the truck will feel heavy as if I'm pulling a load, it'll feel that way for about one or two seconds, then the "bind" will release and the truck will feel lighter and drive normal. if at the stop or light I wait long enough (a minute or so), at some point there I will feel a tiny bit of a kick and then when I take off I will not feel that bind or heavy load; the small kick seems to be when that something that binds or sticks gets released. I imagine like the 2/4 band getting stuck for a reason or something, and when I wait for long enough or as I give it gas, it will come unstuck.
Sounds like low fluid pressure, i.e clutches are not getting enough pressure off the line until the pump spins up.
I just noticed something..... I'm not told anymore at the end of the video to Pat my head and jump on one foot, or flip tape to side B anymore!
Haha, I figured that since the videos aren't being uploaded in batches right now it wouldn't quite work. I've also abandoned (for now) the "Episode 4 Part 3 of 16" format because it is kind of annoying to organize in the long run.
Can we just install a Tibetan singing bowl instead? It makes the same sound.
Starting in 2001, 4L60E units were redesigned, and were called 4L65E transmissions...
You should not use thread locker on bushings
Notification squad
Those steels were not installed properly on this video
what's your flow for these videos? record the video, record the audio, then add in screen hints?
You've got it! Rebuild the transmission and film it. Throw all video files into editor. Rough cut all usable footage. Skim though it, recording voiceover for what is happening and adding things that come to mind. Cut voiceover track down in editor. Go through and match video up to the voiceover track, maybe adding extra lines here and there. Then a final run through to clean things up, add music, and add extra subtitles in addition to ones I put in during other steps as things came to mind.
@@FuzzyDiceProjects Your telling me this project is already done and your just teasing us with little bits every week?
Honestly I just want to see what was actually wrong but I understand why your doing everything, and it will probably help some people do it themselves in the future once the complete rebuild is done.
That is almost as much work or more than the actual work, just on this front drum and stator shaft seals, not to mention having to replace the thicker (Who knows What bushing Thicker?)
These are things that service tech get into all of the time. It is aggravating to say the least, then waiting for new parts to arrive, all while standing on our feet, bending over to strain the lumbar, working in mostly in-air conditioned shops. Things only techs know as another day on the job.
ASE Master Tech since 1978 - Retired and the waiting for next joint surgery. Yah!
If it was a torqueflite it would still be in the car.
Way over my pay grade!
Stacked your 3-=-4 steels wrong.
what are you trying to fix anyway?
Emery Cottle he said that he thought the transmission was failing and he was going to rebuild it. But upon disassembly of the drivetrain he learned it was the transfer case but still wanted to rebuild the transmission so nothing was wrong with it besides wear.
@@ChangGangBam okay thank you, i knew that was the case, i just wasn't sure what components he was replacing.
An inspection was not completed or mentioned for the folks trying to learn, the book does not cover all important items to inspect and why. The 3-4 boost springs need to be tall and not smashed down, this was not mentioned or no real attention was paid to this common problem but you did not remove them as some guys do. Forcing a feeler gauge is not proper, it should slip in with minimal pressure. I did like some of your procedures to protect the Teflon seals. I liked the added clutch also. A wider bushing is a better way to go.
I'm rebuilding my 1993 4l60e and I accidently lost the order of my plates and frictions. My transmission had 6 frictions and 6 steels. It also has these imgur.com/a/98cxcNB and I don't know where they go. Can you help me out please. They came out with the 3-4 clutch pack and steels somewhere
Sooo many parts.
Might as well buy a new one there is some many mistakes that a person could make if they do not know what there doing
Why is this so complicated !?
Automatic transmissions are pretty complex because they are doing a lot of different things, and have to account for many different shifting demands and scenarios. They have all the mechanical parts like clutches and gears which have to interact with the hydraulic system, as well. An older unit with only two or three gears would be more simple, but more modern ones with 5+ gears can make a 4L60E look like a child's toy. The engineering that goes into them is absolutely amazing stuff.
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you are super intelligent guy...but I'm still gonna bust yr ballz...them chevy are garbage...yep...thanks for the great video tho...it reminds me why I own a ford...not a chevy...yep like a rock it just sits there...oh or....chevy exploring new roads cuz yr trans in limp mode and you have to fine a trans shop with no hills...lolz🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣....but I'll tell you my experience....Chevy rides the best..Ford has horrible fuel mileage and dodge has a high maintenance front end...the end👍🙋🏼♂️