Imagine standing there and staring at the enemy until they get distracted by wiping out your teammates, just so you can get a free kill; then proceeding to complain about your team 🤦🏾♂️
And the only reason the sombra did "good" is because the enemies LITERALLY dont even turn to her as she kills them. Sure , she might have above broze mechanics but plastic 5 gamesense
@@ShroomaEclipse It made her too useful and required very little skill for how effective she was. Not to mention the fact that invis has very little counterplay. Now, I don't think her stealth should be tied to her translocator. That should be a separate cooldown and her translocator should be an escape tool.
@@ShroomaEclipse She's only good in plat and below tbh. They need to make her initial throw of translocator silent to the enemy and her ms to 75% while invis and then leave her alone. The movement speed for more agency and silent translocator throw to retain that flanking Sombra play style but without that toxic perma invis. Just my thought as a low master DPS player though. (She will never be viable in my rank rip 🤣)
in a 17 minute game this man used 3 emp's and thought the Moira was the issue He exclusively touches the point when he shouldn't be there He hacks and goes for the bastion who has armor or the torb who has armor instead of a support that has glass bones and paper skin when hacked he tickles he enemies taint while in stealth constantly And yet despite this, The Moira is the problem? i'm sorry dude but every now and then you gotta just own up to the fuck ups and play the objective of the game. the scoreboard only really matters if someone is Notably Behind across the board
@@badasscrusader "she should be everywhere but the objective unless it's overtime" this is objectively wrong. Should Sombra be sitting on point at all times? No, of course not. But as flats pointed out in this video Sombra (pre rework) is incredible at stalling point for your team because of the out you have with trans. There were numerous times this person could have held off a push or at least slowed it for his team, but instead they chose to sit afk spectating the game.
@VestasCure ok yea also stalling but I meant mostly in team fights and generally most of the time she shouldn't be near obj because she should be behind the enemy team harassing the backline not fighting the tank for obj,the sombra in the video is still very stupid and playing for the leader board instead of to win
I have a buddy who would camp spawn and pick supports off the entire game then wonder why we lost, as if the enemy team wasn’t easily engaging in a 4v4 or 4v3 since he never played around obj
That Sombra may have let them cap the point for free but at least she didn't die. Can't understand how they lost with fewer deaths though, truly a mystery for the ages.
Also makes me laugh insulting the Moira for not healing enough. How is Moira supposed to farm healing stats on an AFK Sombra who just hides the whole match and doesn't take any damage, and an Echo who plays in the sky. The only healing the team needs is for the tank, which Bap is more than handling, so Moira going for kills is 100% the right strategy.
this shows why the devs took away the perma invisibility. this passive playstyle and existing for free isnt a good design. they will tweak the cooldowns on her now but most players in ow2 are using her like this. its no different than when they changed 0harah from being able to permanently stay in the sky.
Right but the overwhelming majority of Sombra players don't do this. Literally you have to be busy doing so much shit constantly to make up for the fact that your character has such significant deficiencies. The solution to perma invis isn't to make her overall worse.
@@zadinal they definitely do in the lower ranks and regularly throw my matches in my personal experience. And I would guess there's more players in bronze-gold than plat and above by a significant margin, so yes the majority of Sombra players likely DO play like this
Its yalls fault, they gave her that after everyone bitched her hack did too much so they nerfed it and had to give her perma invis, now they took everything fun and unique about her and made her a bootleg soldier
This is actually a huge reason why Sombra appears op in low elo despite having an overwhelmingly low win rate in low elo. The kit is so poised to stomp noobs, but they don’t have the skill and APM to do it. They have low uptime, make brain dead plays, have little objective pressure. He gets some solo kills in the back because the enemy is so under equipped to fight back but even with that the players really don’t do anything.
2:12 This awareness is why Sombra got reworked. She's standing around doing nothing and TWO Detected notifs happened with no response from the other team. She may have been extremely annoying, but this team didn't even do the bare minimum.
Flats is a higher rank than me so maybe he has the better judgement, but pre-rework, Sombra mains have said that it's more effective to use raw virus and save hack for interupting abilities. The logic I've heard was once an enemy knows you're hacking then, their movement becomes erratic and it becomes harder to land your virus. Sure 70 impact damage is better than 30, but it doesn't matter if you miss, and combined with the time it takes to hack, the time to kill from revealing yourself is pretty much the same. Obviously this is a moot point now that Sombra's been reworked again and she has her Opportunist passive back, making hacking almost always the best opener.
yeah I was thinking this the whole time and cringed a little every time he said the sombra should be doing it. For the reasons you described. The exception would be heroes like Kiriko, as it has a chance of assassination before her cds come out, and even if they do, that's big value. But yeah they changed it so Hack increases all of her damage so yeah now it's way more important to hack. Just a little concerning he is giving Sombra advice without knowing this. I'm also surprised he doesn't mention EMPing Mauga cage... I legit thought maybe Sombra was holding EMP for it, but apparently not. I mean if Sombra isn't certain of when to EMP, then that's a pretty easy option to consider.
Yeah, you were right there and Flats tip was wrong in this one instance (regardless of rank tbh). 110 total damage that you hit 100% of the time is always gonna be better than dealing 145 damage most of the time and 0 damage some of the time. Consistency is preferable.
@@isaiahf-d846 I'm referring specifically to the in-game scoreboard. Objective contest time hasn't been available for DPS or support since the scoreboard was changed. It's only shown on the tank card.
because that's ALSO a pointless stat without context. "Wow, you had 15 minutes on objective... and lost because you failed to take any good positions or fight choke."
@@claudiuspulcher2440 Yeah, that's my point. In most cases, the tank shouldn't be sitting on the objective. Should be taking map control and setting up for the next engagement. Yet, it's the only role that shows objective time.
League player here. In league, it is VERY important that you don’t die, because when you die, your opponent gets more gold, letting them buy more items than normal. Even despite this, I have seen many games where someone goes 0/5 or 0/10 and still carries the game by the end. The scoreboard isn’t everything. Even someone who dies 50 times can outplay someone with 50 kills. It’s rare, but it happens
that is honestly such a fair point. i be looking at the scoreboard sometimes too and judge that on whether we win or not, but really if i lost it’s sometimes fundamentally i’m doing wrong. i needed that to be said to me ty flats 😂
That play at 16:00 is the reason he thought he was carrying. He had one halfway decent play, which was really just him finally helping his team, and thought he was the goat. 😂
2:26 You actually don't want to do that in most situations because the time it takes to hack someone is better spent just shooting the target. While it's true that the DPS is slightly higher, that's not taking into consideration that you will typically miss some shots. You probably only want hack and later shot when you want to attack a tank, or in specific circumstances when you have a lot of teammates around you. None of these circumstances can be applied here so the Sombra in this case is in the right.
My Lord.... I thought I played bad at Sombra from time to time... This Sombra makes me look like a diamond player LOL. The amount of me yelling at the screen cause the Sombra is just.... I feel bad for anyone that had a sombra like this on their team before the most recent patch.
I learned a long time ago that the stats screen is more or less pointless in conveying which team is winning. Had one game where my team was all negative in the K-D ratio, but the other team’s tank and dps were so fixated on getting kills they neglected their supports on the objective where I’d focus in on and curb stomp. I’m not joking when I say no one on my team had a positive K-D (myself included), but we won cause the other team couldn’t play objective.
Elims are not final blows. This player, very obviously, did not get 52 or however many elims it was. They contributed to the elims they got credit for.
Bro did you watch the video? They're blind and deaf! This is like playing dodgeball with blind children :( I feel bad for them! I've watched other spectating bronze videos, the awareness of the enemy team this game is like night and day, this is cardboard 6. He keeps walking into them and they just don't even care! This is the most free shit I've ever seen.
@@MisterSmith27 Bro the enemy team has negative awareness! These aren't your average bronze players, I've watched the other videos and even they are not this bad. This is luck, this Ana/Zen/Torb seem new to fps games. It's a shame they didn't have a good time.
“Why are you frontlining? That’s not how you play Sombra.” Little did Flats know that in a few short days that indeed would be how you play Sombra after the rework.
3:38 "I don't know why you are trying to front line as Sombra, that's just not how you play Sombra" apparently the bronze knew something before we all did haha
The most fascinating (and annoying) thing about Overwatch is "value". You get value for every single thing you do and you lose value for every single thing you do not do. In the end, the team with the most value wins. Kills and deaths are the most obvious ones, and most people stop there when they judge the value delivered in a match. So I will stop here...
@@JordanYee there should be a scoreboard with more details one could look at after game for analysis purposes. I would even love to see a win/loss ratio for every single hero you play for certain maps, and even put in a time table to see if there has been increase f ex last month. Also if there are peaks where you win more during early hours of the day or the evenings. Lot of information that could be useful both personally and teamwise.
cant remember what high rank sombra it was but they actually recommended to virus first and then hack because its more consistent to land and people start moving when getting hacked. and the damage is still enough
Getting to 3rd point Kings Row without using EMP is criminal. This person is screwed with the new sombra rework lmao. the amount of time they spent invis doing absolutely nothing. I hope they learn quicky or swap to a new hero. Also it's so cringey to complain about a moira in this case, when I used to play sombra I would get the moira to flank with me, in diamond teams shi their pants and don't know what to do, if you spoke to your moira and co-ordinated you would win for FREEEEE.
hacking first is situational. it does the same damage with virus just faster. though now with the current changes i have found success in hacking > wait for invis to run out and then engage giving you a chance for translocator to come off CD. but its about the same rate as virus+shoot if you land all your shots. really just depends on if you plan on teleporting out right after or not.
This is my first time running in to your channel before! This is an awesome video, and I actually ended up learning from it! I started playing Overwatch a few months ago, and I would love to send in a video of my gameplay even if it means I get torn apart XD
This is exactly why Sombra has always had a low winrate despite how busted perma invis actually is. It's such a hard bait ability that lulls lower rank players into just sitting around doing absolutely jack all most of the game cus they don't get directly punished for doing jack all. I mean they do get punished by not winning due to their abysmal uptime and inconsistent contribution to fights, but they being lower rank players don't realize such a mistake unless it hits them in the face like a sledgehammer. Now the rework of Sombra actually forces more uptime as well as being hard punished more consistently for mismanaging cd's and positioning and target priority, which is great because finally these lower rank Sombra players can actually start learning how to play the game and not just be afk for free 80% of their matches..
Second Summary of the Video : " Are you going to EMP? " , " Are you going to EMP this guy? " , " That EMP has been sitting there for nine long years now. " , " EMP, now? Maybe? "
This whole game is absolutely insane to me. How is it possible to basically be permanently detected and the enemy team just not even bother shooting in the direction of the sound? I mean, I know it's bronze but come on. And the ults... the reason to play Sombra, at least before the most recent patch, is EMP. You harass, try to get picks, and build EMP. You used ONE ult on attack, and then when you finally used it the team fight was already won. If you had held it there and used it during the final team fight, you probably cap the last point.
2:49 sometimes throwing the virus without the hack is better. If he went for a hack, he might not have killed the zen. Hack only speeds up the dmg of virus, not increase it.
This was honestly the funniest spectate ive seen. laughed so many times at what he shouldve done and had to remind myself this is bronze and the enemy team awareness and reaction time is bottom tier. Held emp entire time and only used it at times when it wasnt needed or shouldnt have been used lol
Literally I’m a support player and I’m always running in to touch with the mindset of playing FOR THE TEAM. At least you can actually say you tried rather than just sitting there waiting for kills.
The sole reason Sombra-trash did some kills is that she was surrounded by very low-skilled enemies who almost ignored her, and that's the main reason she is locked so down in there. Starting from silver and above, she would be stomped.
silver support player here... Had a game in which my team attacking won because the 2 dps went for me (IN OVERTIME!) and my tank (mauga )ulted and killed the other 3, I ran away from them and instead of going back to the cart, they decided to chase me... Dps is like "must kill" "need pocket"
Sombra players have been saying they wouldn't mind stealth being nerfed, but the previous rework was wack and Blizz didn't listen to Fitzyhere who they specifically invited to try out the beta. They even snuck in a huge nerf of her stealth revealing her to the entire enemy team when spotted by anyone - and that still didn't help. Now they're making her even more Sombra76 than before - she has lost her entire identity. I just don't understand how a stealth hero is getting dismembered, but immortality supports are untouched.
So I’m new to this game, picked it up a few weeks ago and I’ve got a few dozen hours on, ranked low gold/high silver. In defense of the somber about having too many people on the point and having three maxed out how fast you capture it, that is news to me. Some things just aren’t explained in the game. Definitely enjoyed the video though!
After some time, I feel like this version of Sombra could work really well if they tune it a bit. If she could reset her translocator on kills and assists similar to Genji’s dash; that’d help her a ton and I don’t feel like it’d be too op cuz if you don’t play well enough and the person doesn’t die, you’re still stuck flopping around their backline like a fish out of water
"what was that??? must have been the wind" is a reoccurring theme in this spectating bronze series LOL
YES
Wind gets more value
@@brendasicard3773 that’s so true 😭
Imagine standing there and staring at the enemy until they get distracted by wiping out your teammates, just so you can get a free kill; then proceeding to complain about your team 🤦🏾♂️
This is spot on what we all experience now and then with certain type of player in this game. Usually...they play Sombra 😅
But specifically your teams healer, who are trying their best and usually have better sense than dps players 💀
You can't make it up: a bronze Sombra complaining about scoreboard stats in a losing game.
🤣 when you put it that way it just sounds completely ridiculous actually
Don’t worry, that is succinctly Bronze Overwatch.
Stats don't matter is a massive cope from people who tend to under perform.
There's a reason 9 out of 10 games the winning team has better stats
And the only reason the sombra did "good" is because the enemies LITERALLY dont even turn to her as she kills them. Sure , she might have above broze mechanics but plastic 5 gamesense
@@justifano7046It’s a cope both ways, just like with this comment
Having this in the background and hearing
"Your whole team just died what are u gonna do n-"
APAGANDO LAS LUSES
was peak
I'm crying bruh😂
This player would have been devastated with the recent patch lol. Completely reliant on perma invis
I'm so glad perma invis is gone. People like this can't use it as a crutch anymore.
@@adamstilber8382 lol, just pressure the tank and go for low target you see with opportunist
@@adamstilber8382the whole thing of sombra was her invis thats what made her as useful as she was now shes super squishy on the front
@@ShroomaEclipse It made her too useful and required very little skill for how effective she was. Not to mention the fact that invis has very little counterplay. Now, I don't think her stealth should be tied to her translocator. That should be a separate cooldown and her translocator should be an escape tool.
@@ShroomaEclipse She's only good in plat and below tbh. They need to make her initial throw of translocator silent to the enemy and her ms to 75% while invis and then leave her alone. The movement speed for more agency and silent translocator throw to retain that flanking Sombra play style but without that toxic perma invis.
Just my thought as a low master DPS player though. (She will never be viable in my rank rip 🤣)
The sombra changes were made for this person specifically
I'm in awe at the people spotting the invis Sombra, and unironically being like Flats said, npcs on a stealth game just going on about their day.
Pyra pfp in the wild!
As someone who climbed from 700 sr to plat 4 I will tell you you get start getting hard punished around silver 3 by gold you get smoked
Summary of the video:
"WHAT WAS THAT!?..... Must have been the wind"
in a 17 minute game this man used 3 emp's and thought the Moira was the issue
He exclusively touches the point when he shouldn't be there
He hacks and goes for the bastion who has armor or the torb who has armor instead of a support that has glass bones and paper skin when hacked
he tickles he enemies taint while in stealth constantly
And yet despite this, The Moira is the problem? i'm sorry dude but every now and then you gotta just own up to the fuck ups and play the objective of the game. the scoreboard only really matters if someone is Notably Behind across the board
Sombra should not be playing the objective(at least before the nerf) she should be everywhere but the objective unless it's overtime
@@badasscrusader yes ofc but you need to atleast touch cart before they get second point... to get some time for your team to come back
@@badasscrusader "she should be everywhere but the objective unless it's overtime" this is objectively wrong. Should Sombra be sitting on point at all times? No, of course not. But as flats pointed out in this video Sombra (pre rework) is incredible at stalling point for your team because of the out you have with trans. There were numerous times this person could have held off a push or at least slowed it for his team, but instead they chose to sit afk spectating the game.
Good luck getting an overwatch player to own up to their mistakes, they'd rather go through the most painful torture than admit it was their fault
@VestasCure ok yea also stalling but I meant mostly in team fights and generally most of the time she shouldn't be near obj because she should be behind the enemy team harassing the backline not fighting the tank for obj,the sombra in the video is still very stupid and playing for the leader board instead of to win
"I don't know why you're trying to frontline, that's not how you play Sombra"
And the devs took that personally
it's hilarious seeing old footage of sombra cause 90% of old sombra players did exactly this and wondered why they'd lose
I have a buddy who would camp spawn and pick supports off the entire game then wonder why we lost, as if the enemy team wasn’t easily engaging in a 4v4 or 4v3 since he never played around obj
@@kman9884 Well I mean if the enemy team had no supports cuz bro was spawn camping them the whole game and you still lose it might be a skill issue
3:40 oh how this aged
Yep 🥲
Is the invisibility in the room with us?🤔🤷♂️
Sombra has invisibility?
BACK TO THE FRONT!!!
You play Sombra? FRONTLINES!
The amount of times that they Skyrim NPC’d was insane
mario music makes the "must have been the wind" even funnier because of the little dance
3:34 “idk why youre frontlining on sombra thats not how you play her”
this folks, is what we in the industry call “subtle foreshadowing”
That Sombra may have let them cap the point for free but at least she didn't die. Can't understand how they lost with fewer deaths though, truly a mystery for the ages.
Also makes me laugh insulting the Moira for not healing enough. How is Moira supposed to farm healing stats on an AFK Sombra who just hides the whole match and doesn't take any damage, and an Echo who plays in the sky. The only healing the team needs is for the tank, which Bap is more than handling, so Moira going for kills is 100% the right strategy.
@@ash_yt0Especially in bronze, against an enemy team we already know is mostly ignoring actual threats. Moira grinding kills is a great idea
Every low-level player wants to talk shit about "DPS Moira" any time she's not heal-botting in the back line lol
this shows why the devs took away the perma invisibility. this passive playstyle and existing for free isnt a good design. they will tweak the cooldowns on her now but most players in ow2 are using her like this.
its no different than when they changed 0harah from being able to permanently stay in the sky.
Right but the overwhelming majority of Sombra players don't do this. Literally you have to be busy doing so much shit constantly to make up for the fact that your character has such significant deficiencies. The solution to perma invis isn't to make her overall worse.
@@zadinal they definitely do in the lower ranks and regularly throw my matches in my personal experience. And I would guess there's more players in bronze-gold than plat and above by a significant margin, so yes the majority of Sombra players likely DO play like this
Its yalls fault, they gave her that after everyone bitched her hack did too much so they nerfed it and had to give her perma invis, now they took everything fun and unique about her and made her a bootleg soldier
@@french_toast223good send her to the farm
@@french_toast223 you can still go invis and annoy the backline wym lmao
Good Stuff Flats. Like usual. Been obsessed with your content lately
Me too😅
This is actually a huge reason why Sombra appears op in low elo despite having an overwhelmingly low win rate in low elo. The kit is so poised to stomp noobs, but they don’t have the skill and APM to do it. They have low uptime, make brain dead plays, have little objective pressure. He gets some solo kills in the back because the enemy is so under equipped to fight back but even with that the players really don’t do anything.
Flats doing mauga voice lines is the funniest thing ever🤣🤣
2:12 This awareness is why Sombra got reworked. She's standing around doing nothing and TWO Detected notifs happened with no response from the other team. She may have been extremely annoying, but this team didn't even do the bare minimum.
Flats is a higher rank than me so maybe he has the better judgement, but pre-rework, Sombra mains have said that it's more effective to use raw virus and save hack for interupting abilities. The logic I've heard was once an enemy knows you're hacking then, their movement becomes erratic and it becomes harder to land your virus. Sure 70 impact damage is better than 30, but it doesn't matter if you miss, and combined with the time it takes to hack, the time to kill from revealing yourself is pretty much the same.
Obviously this is a moot point now that Sombra's been reworked again and she has her Opportunist passive back, making hacking almost always the best opener.
yeah I was thinking this the whole time and cringed a little every time he said the sombra should be doing it. For the reasons you described. The exception would be heroes like Kiriko, as it has a chance of assassination before her cds come out, and even if they do, that's big value. But yeah they changed it so Hack increases all of her damage so yeah now it's way more important to hack. Just a little concerning he is giving Sombra advice without knowing this. I'm also surprised he doesn't mention EMPing Mauga cage... I legit thought maybe Sombra was holding EMP for it, but apparently not. I mean if Sombra isn't certain of when to EMP, then that's a pretty easy option to consider.
Didnt Fitzy said before rework that it was better to lead off with virus instead of hack in most cases ?
@@axelt6312 yes, questron said this as well
Yeah, you were right there and Flats tip was wrong in this one instance (regardless of rank tbh).
110 total damage that you hit 100% of the time is always gonna be better than dealing 145 damage most of the time and 0 damage some of the time. Consistency is preferable.
While true, not in bronze.
had a sombra like this in my match last time i played comp kept blaming supports for not following them into the backlines and dying
What?????that's crazy
I'll never understand why they removed objective time as a stat for all roles except tank.
My thoughts exactly
it's still a stat for all characters? unless the update removed that?
@@isaiahf-d846 I'm referring specifically to the in-game scoreboard. Objective contest time hasn't been available for DPS or support since the scoreboard was changed. It's only shown on the tank card.
because that's ALSO a pointless stat without context. "Wow, you had 15 minutes on objective... and lost because you failed to take any good positions or fight choke."
@@claudiuspulcher2440 Yeah, that's my point. In most cases, the tank shouldn't be sitting on the objective. Should be taking map control and setting up for the next engagement. Yet, it's the only role that shows objective time.
Ok so this is what the devs meant by a Sombra playing too passively. I just never would have guessed it would take that long to do something
League player here. In league, it is VERY important that you don’t die, because when you die, your opponent gets more gold, letting them buy more items than normal. Even despite this, I have seen many games where someone goes 0/5 or 0/10 and still carries the game by the end. The scoreboard isn’t everything. Even someone who dies 50 times can outplay someone with 50 kills. It’s rare, but it happens
that is honestly such a fair point. i be looking at the scoreboard sometimes too and judge that on whether we win or not, but really if i lost it’s sometimes fundamentally i’m doing wrong. i needed that to be said to me ty flats 😂
I cant wait to get on and try all these tips for Sombra 😅
Oh my sweet summer child 😅
Yeah I will make great use of this. 😅
I’m going to hold your hands when I say this…
This is outdated won't really work anymore
You’re playing old sombra!?!? You don’t get heals you are in the back line! Get a health pack!
3:34 hmm that didn't age too well lol
That play at 16:00 is the reason he thought he was carrying. He had one halfway decent play, which was really just him finally helping his team, and thought he was the goat. 😂
“Dps Moira can’t do her job” no, dps moira is doing the job of the npc sombra on her team
The fact that you could nail exactly why they lost purely on the scoreboard is hilarious lmao
2:26 You actually don't want to do that in most situations because the time it takes to hack someone is better spent just shooting the target. While it's true that the DPS is slightly higher, that's not taking into consideration that you will typically miss some shots. You probably only want hack and later shot when you want to attack a tank, or in specific circumstances when you have a lot of teammates around you. None of these circumstances can be applied here so the Sombra in this case is in the right.
Its situational. So much depends on the situation. I dont get why people say this is right and this is wrong
10:40 Flats looking side to side syncing up with the turtle mario bros shuffle music 😂
My Lord.... I thought I played bad at Sombra from time to time... This Sombra makes me look like a diamond player LOL. The amount of me yelling at the screen cause the Sombra is just.... I feel bad for anyone that had a sombra like this on their team before the most recent patch.
I learned a long time ago that the stats screen is more or less pointless in conveying which team is winning. Had one game where my team was all negative in the K-D ratio, but the other team’s tank and dps were so fixated on getting kills they neglected their supports on the objective where I’d focus in on and curb stomp. I’m not joking when I say no one on my team had a positive K-D (myself included), but we won cause the other team couldn’t play objective.
I’ve never seen someone hold onto emp for so long. That’s insane.
This is probably the worst Sombra I’ve ever seen😭😭
Longest Sombra cycles I've ever seen, this was so painful to watch.
"it must have been the wind" is taking me out bronze is filled with skyrim NPC's
i honestly don't understand how they can even get that many kills
Bronze players have zero awareness. It's not that hard to do.
@@MisterSmith27 I'm a bronze player and our games usually get 25 at most
Elims are not final blows. This player, very obviously, did not get 52 or however many elims it was. They contributed to the elims they got credit for.
Bro did you watch the video? They're blind and deaf! This is like playing dodgeball with blind children :( I feel bad for them!
I've watched other spectating bronze videos, the awareness of the enemy team this game is like night and day, this is cardboard 6. He keeps walking into them and they just don't even care! This is the most free shit I've ever seen.
@@MisterSmith27 Bro the enemy team has negative awareness! These aren't your average bronze players, I've watched the other videos and even they are not this bad.
This is luck, this Ana/Zen/Torb seem new to fps games. It's a shame they didn't have a good time.
“Why are you frontlining? That’s not how you play Sombra.”
Little did Flats know that in a few short days that indeed would be how you play Sombra after the rework.
3:38 "I don't know why you are trying to front line as Sombra, that's just not how you play Sombra" apparently the bronze knew something before we all did haha
This dude was prepared for Flats to crap on his aim not his brain
The most fascinating (and annoying) thing about Overwatch is "value".
You get value for every single thing you do and you lose value for every single thing you do not do. In the end, the team with the most value wins.
Kills and deaths are the most obvious ones, and most people stop there when they judge the value delivered in a match. So I will stop here...
Also big problem with the scoreboard it only shows the most obvious
@@badasscrusader I would love to see "Healing Received"
@@axel_r_ I'm still mad about no "obj time" on the scoreboard
@@axel_r_ Damage Taken would also be a great way to illustrate to players who is demanding the most resources too
@@JordanYee there should be a scoreboard with more details one could look at after game for analysis purposes.
I would even love to see a win/loss ratio for every single hero you play for certain maps, and even put in a time table to see if there has been increase f ex last month. Also if there are peaks where you win more during early hours of the day or the evenings. Lot of information that could be useful both personally and teamwise.
This is the definition of work harder not smarter
52 kills to win a bronze game
cant remember what high rank sombra it was but they actually recommended to virus first and then hack because its more consistent to land and people start moving when getting hacked. and the damage is still enough
Video sponsored by "What was that? It must be the wind". Metal Gear Solid NPC levels of awareness.
This is why I hate the scoreboard. It encourages deathmatch behavior.
14:22 had me dead bro you can see him panic immediately and then blow it off 2 seconds later im so lost 😭😭
not using emp even with mauga ult is kind of crazy too
The fact that the enemy wasn’t worried about the sombra really says how useful she’s being
Getting to 3rd point Kings Row without using EMP is criminal. This person is screwed with the new sombra rework lmao. the amount of time they spent invis doing absolutely nothing. I hope they learn quicky or swap to a new hero. Also it's so cringey to complain about a moira in this case, when I used to play sombra I would get the moira to flank with me, in diamond teams shi their pants and don't know what to do, if you spoke to your moira and co-ordinated you would win for FREEEEE.
As a Sombra main, watching this is making me cringe
this video was so tilting to watch, lol
It was pretty rough.
Lol I wanted to take over and win the game for this person.
I see why the majority was crying about her! Couldn't do this in diamond - master lobbies
I mean playing Sombra is cringe so whats the difference
@@TheAlphaMaG how is playing a character in a game cringe? Serious question...
7:51 Im loving that fucking impersonation of Muaga 😂
hacking first is situational. it does the same damage with virus just faster. though now with the current changes i have found success in hacking > wait for invis to run out and then engage giving you a chance for translocator to come off CD. but its about the same rate as virus+shoot if you land all your shots. really just depends on if you plan on teleporting out right after or not.
Everytime I think I’m doing terribly in OW, I just watch spectating Bronze and I feel so much better
Playing Sombra into that comp and getting even a single solo kill is something only a bronze lobby could pull off
This is my first time running in to your channel before! This is an awesome video, and I actually ended up learning from it! I started playing Overwatch a few months ago, and I would love to send in a video of my gameplay even if it means I get torn apart XD
I hate that the Sombra rework has already happened... I'd love to see Flats try to play like this guy in a high rank game lol.
“They have a Mauga :/ I’m gonna puke in my mouth :)” LMFAOO me every game tbh
This is exactly why Sombra has always had a low winrate despite how busted perma invis actually is. It's such a hard bait ability that lulls lower rank players into just sitting around doing absolutely jack all most of the game cus they don't get directly punished for doing jack all. I mean they do get punished by not winning due to their abysmal uptime and inconsistent contribution to fights, but they being lower rank players don't realize such a mistake unless it hits them in the face like a sledgehammer.
Now the rework of Sombra actually forces more uptime as well as being hard punished more consistently for mismanaging cd's and positioning and target priority, which is great because finally these lower rank Sombra players can actually start learning how to play the game and not just be afk for free 80% of their matches..
I been waiting for a full bronze sombra game from Flats for the past 4-5 years and it’s a functional Sombra
Finally, the sequel to C9, C10
ive never felt as RELIEVED as when bro FINALLY did the hack THEN virus at 12:30
Second Summary of the Video : " Are you going to EMP? " , " Are you going to EMP this guy? " , " That EMP has been sitting there for nine long years now. " , " EMP, now? Maybe? "
This whole game is absolutely insane to me. How is it possible to basically be permanently detected and the enemy team just not even bother shooting in the direction of the sound? I mean, I know it's bronze but come on.
And the ults... the reason to play Sombra, at least before the most recent patch, is EMP. You harass, try to get picks, and build EMP. You used ONE ult on attack, and then when you finally used it the team fight was already won. If you had held it there and used it during the final team fight, you probably cap the last point.
10:39
Literally a npc from dishonored
The biggest mistake you could make when trying to get coached is probably saying "i lost but it wasn't my fault at all"
Alternative title
I spectated an average Elders Scroll Thieves Guild quest
the amount of times that sombra stood there doing nothing is aggravating.
I don't even play Sombra often but the amount of times they couldve EMP'd but didnt made me want to tear my face off
8:39 dying to the turrent that u hacked 😭
Everytime you said "must have been the wind" i kept thinking of skyrim
10:55 would've had me straight up raging, I can't even lie.
2:49 sometimes throwing the virus without the hack is better. If he went for a hack, he might not have killed the zen. Hack only speeds up the dmg of virus, not increase it.
hack actually increases the impact damage of virus, but not the DOT
i was mid mouthful of food and almost spat it out at “skin check… default?…… ew 😟”
as someone who doesn't play sombra, and is absolutely helpless when it comes to playing her, this is still very painful to watch
This was honestly the funniest spectate ive seen. laughed so many times at what he shouldve done and had to remind myself this is bronze and the enemy team awareness and reaction time is bottom tier. Held emp entire time and only used it at times when it wasnt needed or shouldnt have been used lol
flats: dont frontline as sombra / Flats after re-work: frontline as sombra / me: lmao
Literally I’m a support player and I’m always running in to touch with the mindset of playing FOR THE TEAM. At least you can actually say you tried rather than just sitting there waiting for kills.
Torb , Bastion , Mauga , Moira is the most Bronze comp I’ve ever seen (also the most evil)
The sole reason Sombra-trash did some kills is that she was surrounded by very low-skilled enemies who almost ignored her, and that's the main reason she is locked so down in there. Starting from silver and above, she would be stomped.
You can tell this sombra has zero faith in their aim which is why they always get so close before shooting
silver support player here... Had a game in which my team attacking won because the 2 dps went for me (IN OVERTIME!) and my tank (mauga )ulted and killed the other 3, I ran away from them and instead of going back to the cart, they decided to chase me... Dps is like "must kill" "need pocket"
Nice Guy Sombra. Everyone hates getting hacked so they make sure not to hack or EMP anyone.
I always prayed on Sombra's downfall, but I kinda feel a little sad for them. Just a little....
Real and now because widow is more dominant than ever
@Reli0s literally the only downside
They'll come for your hero. They already killed dps doom and gutted sombra.
Sombra players have been saying they wouldn't mind stealth being nerfed, but the previous rework was wack and Blizz didn't listen to Fitzyhere who they specifically invited to try out the beta. They even snuck in a huge nerf of her stealth revealing her to the entire enemy team when spotted by anyone - and that still didn't help. Now they're making her even more Sombra76 than before - she has lost her entire identity.
I just don't understand how a stealth hero is getting dismembered, but immortality supports are untouched.
@@impulse3507 They already did, Mei can't freeze with left click.
I was thinking I was gonna get a video of a reworked sombra in bronze managing to get 52 elims. That would have been crazy
Comparing zen to an ac npc was the most accurate thing ever
So I’m new to this game, picked it up a few weeks ago and I’ve got a few dozen hours on, ranked low gold/high silver. In defense of the somber about having too many people on the point and having three maxed out how fast you capture it, that is news to me. Some things just aren’t explained in the game. Definitely enjoyed the video though!
Playing Sombra into a Torb and Bastion is something, some of the tankiest DPS
I literally can’t fathom how so many OW players CONSTANTLY blame their teammates for their own incompetence, real smooth brain behavior fr
As a Bronze/Silver Zen player, I wish I got more Sombras like this in my games.
This is proof this nuclear bomb of a rework to Sombra was needed.
4:00 Best moment of this video 😂
10:33 Also here
this has got to be one of the most frustrating spectating vods ive seen to date
After some time, I feel like this version of Sombra could work really well if they tune it a bit. If she could reset her translocator on kills and assists similar to Genji’s dash; that’d help her a ton and I don’t feel like it’d be too op cuz if you don’t play well enough and the person doesn’t die, you’re still stuck flopping around their backline like a fish out of water
As a rein main, this puts a smile on my face to see a sombra try so hard and still lose
This sombra playing sims 4 the way he be watching bots