Why Vader Decided to Cut Off Luke's Hand (GENIUS)
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2024
- Breaking down Darth Vader's thoughts as he fought his son, Luke Skywalker, in The Empire Strikes Back, and chose to cut off Luke's hand. It turns out, Vader had an incredibly smart reason for doing so...
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You think you know pain, try having ur arms, legs amputated, 90% burns, just a shell of your former self yet u was told "u the chosen one"
The first time I beat my dad at chess I watched a look of pride and anger cross his face. He hates losing.
Thats how I felt the first time my son out ran my best 1.5 mile time. Miffed but that was eclipsed with pride in that the torch was being passed.
He taught him loss. He did the same thing to an inquisitor.
I think Luke was already pretty well versed in loss. He never knew his parents. His adoptive parents are murdered. His mentor is murdered by Vader. His best friend, Biggs, is killed during the assault on the first Death Star. He constantly lost companions, friends, and allies, as a result of the rebellion against the Empire. Vader cutting off his hand taught him the consequences of losing a sabre fight, but not really about loss…
Cheers,
@@Wolf359inc those are superficial losses that almost if not everyone goes through. Luke up until that point never really fought a force user let alone debatably the best Jedi killer ever. He was cocky (plus the shoulder hit probably pissed Vader off) and Vader knew Luke was his son via Boba Fett. Vader had plans for Luke and to quote Vader when he chopped off the inquisitor's hand he said "they fight like Jedi, on the defensive waiting for an opening." And that's what ultimately what made them more proficient hunting Jedi. You can see this lesson play out in Return of the Jedi when Luke looks at his hand after disarming Vader
Because Luke just scored a hit on Vader's flesh and proved himself a legitimate threat. Vader quit messing around and disarmed him (literally).
And he lost his lightsaber. A farewell to arms
In Jedi and Sith lore, slicing off an opponent's limb is called Trial of the Flesh.
Not exactly! The Trial of the Flesh is just one of the Jedi trials. In some cases, the Jedi Council would consider injuries in the field, like Anakin losing his arm on Geonosis, to qualify as a trial.
@@RetneysHolocron Understood.
Sometimes even a deeply emotional loss can qualify as the Trial of Flesh, such as Obi-Wan watching his master Qui-Gon die, whilst maintaining his Jedi composure.
"Not damaging him too much" has always been my understanding of it.
Vader: It's a skywalker traditionele son
Welcome to the family 😂
Count Dooku did the same to me
This harkens back to Anakin's duel with Dooku and how this set Anakin even more to dive into the darkside. Maybe that is what Vader was hoping for in Luke, by exploiting a weakness Luke would push harder for more power, just as Anakin did. Just a thought
Well, he's more of a manipulator than I thought. I have previously interpreted this scene as Vader making a mistake by mutilating Luke because of his rage moment, similar to how he strangled Padme on Mustafar, and then trying to calm down and persuade his son as he realized what he was doing
If you watch The sword Play you can tell it's a father playing with his son and simply not trying to do anymore than dominate his son without hurting him.
Then Luke gets a rage boost and hits Vader in his unprotected and very human shoulder.
Then in the heat if battle he acted without acting the moment hit all by itself.
Empire is my favorite SW film too!
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Luke's hand was holding a lightsaber and he just landed a strike on Vader. Best for Luke to be "disarmed" at that point.
I never thought it was a lesson to it i just thought he wanted to get rid of that weapon he struck a painful blow with
Love the background music. Never change it
When Vader reached out to Luke aboard the falcon I would have told Vader go hug a landmine you just cut off my hand
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Thanks for the video, If cutting off limbs reduces ones power in the force, why isn't yoda extremely weak due to his small size? I never could buy that theory. Remember yoda said himself, "size matters not," Blessings 2U.
Yeah, the way George explains it is kinda confusing! I guess he's specifically saying that losing limbs makes you weaker. Yoda still has his entire physical form, regardless of his size. He isn't missing any of his organic being
THANK YOU. I've been saying that for years. Darth Vader never lost any of his potential after mustafar. Luminous beings are we. Not this crude matter.
- Yoda probably.
According to George, he did! It’s different in the new canon lore
@@RetneysHolocron I believe he did. Do not forget that with that kind of injury, he has to exert energy or even the force just to operate. Either he is distracted with the pain, or the drugs from the suits to keep him pains-free would for sure make him not at 100%. It's like driving under influence. M-count or what not, if you're living in that condition where a life support suit is needed, you're weaker than when you were a young buffalo with all limbs and pain free for sure. Obiwan is weaker in his old age by the same logic and therefore was easily struck down by Darth Vader.
Darth Vader = Handicaped Anakin. The Emperor just salvaged him with the armor. Also after the fall of the Jedi, how can Vader grow without any other Jedi to challenge him.
Could be Yoda has a higher density of cells, or high saturation of midiclorians per cell.
Vader: this is a new feeling....pride in someone else..........Unfurtunately it's being overshadowed by this unwielding rage
Found the abridged fan. Best comment on here
The force specially created the chosen one so that he would learn to think and fight like a Sith in order to fulfill the prophecy as well as his destiny. Vader also treated Luke mercifully, who angered him by hitting him on the shoulder. Considering how "polite" the Jedi and some Siths, are usually and how they like to chop off opponents' hands, things could have ended more grimly if the circumstances had been different. The most important thing is that Vader calmed down and showed that the conflict in his soul between light and darkness began back then, marking the beginning of his return to the bright side.
Also Vader could still use lightning. Just use the force to create it. The hands are really more of a guide for the energy, but I've always suspected that the lightning doesn't come from the body, it's just directed by the body. The actual lightning starts a few millimeters from the finger. I suspected as a kid that Palpatine could use lightning just because he was way more powerful than Vader. Keep in mind Vader was not a chosen one back in those days as it was pre prequels. Masters of Teras Kasi showed Vader able to call lightning down from the sky. I always thought that was a valid form of lightning. I also thought that Vader more hands on from flying to dueling. Other aspects of the force were still available and trained in but dueling and flight dueling seemed more his area of interest. Palpatine wanted power and was more inclined to delve into deeper aspects of the force and didn't like direct competition the way Vader did. Palpatine should have never had a lightsaber nor should Yoda. I viewed them as similar. Both wielded the force itself and we're far beyond lightsabers. They could still have one because sometimes you would have to cut through a wall or something but they are tools. No more, no less.
Vader knew how to use lightning, but he didn't risk using it. Since living hands are needed, especially the absence of cybernetics sensitive to electricity.
Although there was that Legends story where they show R5 (was it?) was Force-Sensitive and choose to malfunction so that R2 would be picked and thus prompt Luke to seek out Obi-Wan and save the galaxy.
Typical dad giving his son tough love
It was a mistake for Luke to hit his father on the shoulder, given the sad state of his body. Vader was still polite and restrained. I wanted to, I would have killed my son if I wanted to (in mind how harsh life taught him). But the dark lord needed him alive, so it was logical to disarm the enemy. Dooku was even tougher when he chopped off more than just Anakin's hand.
Trial of the flesh.
1.) He was angry Luke scored a hit on him.
2.) If Luke kept fighting, Vader might be forced to kill him just to survive.
Idk about that, vader does tend to hold back apparently. He got serious once luke injured him. If luke wasnt his son he would have killed luke, he was toying with him.
#2 makes the most sense
Vader did not seek to kill him, but wanted to win him over to his side in order to unite against the emperor, overthrow him and rule together. If the dark lord wanted to kill him, he would have already killed him. But he didn't want to do that.
Besides Vader spent the FEAT to sever limb, cutting off hands and having hands cut off is kinda his thing...
Probably to punish him for his training with Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan did the same to both Anakin's hands and legs too.
its funny how in his attempt to turn Luke to the dark side he ended up pushing him further into the light, if he never told Luke that he was his father, and let him believe that he did kill him then he would've had a better chance.
He does not use force lightning because it would effect his cybernetics. Why is that he can use his other abilities with no problem?
The suit was designed by the Emperor to be susceptible to force lighting. Whether that is canon or not, it is what I've read.
That doesn’t make sense. “The Force is an energy field that surrounds us, binds us together”. It is in everything, not just living things. If not, then how do you explain Geode, or whatever that Jedi rock in the High Republic is (not that this is a great example, because, well, it’s in the High Republic…)?
Surely Vader’s prosthetics were still imbued with the Force, even though they wouldn’t have had as high a Midichlorian count as Vader himself? I would even go so far as to believe that constant exposure to such high midichlorians would eventually “mutate” his prosthetics, imbuing them with higher midichlorian amounts, just due to contact exposure.
I guess it falls under the same category as Vader not wanting to upgrade his armour over the years, for… reasons? As the Emperor’s right hand man, it was in both Papa Palpatine, and Vader’s, interests, for Vader to be as powerful as possible. Yet he existed in an inferior suit, which required him to continually use the Force, just to stay alive, and functional. By design, the suit wasn’t even insulated against electricity. Much of this could be put on Palps, who knew a pre-Mustafar Vader, who was more or less intact, would end up being more powerful than him, eventually. However, Vader could have made enhancements surreptitiously, making him more powerful, unbeknown to Palpatine.
I know, at the end of the day, it is all fiction, and doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things, but I like my fiction to be consistent…
Cheers,
Vader's right prosthetic strengthened his connection to the force. In addition, Sith amulets were hung on us and alchemy was used. The left cybernetic hand could probably use Force too. By order of the emperor, a new suit was created for Vader, but it was dangerous to change into it, since it would temporarily have to turn off the life support system and the dark lord's implants. In addition, the pain and discomfort from the old suit fueled Vader's dark side. So he improved the costume as much as possible.
Couldnt Dark Vader use the force to grab Luke´s missing hand and return it to him?
If Darth Vader couldn't use Force lightning because he didn't have organic hands, then how does he Force choke someone if he doesn't have organic hands? 🤨🤔
Using the Force doesn’t require you to use your hands. But lightning does, because it comes out of your hands.
What kind of Skywalker will be Luke, if doesn't heave at least one of his libs cut off?
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Silly me! Here I was thinking that Vader's reason for cutting off Luke's hand was to win the duel! How could I have been so blind to the true motivations & reasoning when they are so obvious! Oh well! Live & learn I guess.
Vader was holding back, he could have won at any moment. It was because luke was his son that he toyed with him a bit.
@@darkpromeathean937 Oh I understand. He could have won anything but chose to toy with him. Therefore, when he finished toying with him & now wished to actually win the duel, he didn't have to find a way to win it. I understand even more now.
@@darkpromeathean937 Oh I understand. He could have won anything but chose to toy with him. Therefore, when he finished toying with him & now wished to actually win the duel, he didn't have to find a way to win it. I understand even more now.
Its simple.. luke caught vaders real shoulder so he lost control and fought more aggressively for that moment
It’s deeper than that!
why did vader cut his hand off.......because he was holding a lightsabre
Vader was stronger than Luke Skywalker
Yes
In the Empire Strikes Back, yes
@raidenn6266
Legend luke > vader (anakin)
Canon anakin ( vader) > Luke
@@Napunsakraajaarjun No? In TESB, Luke is a padawan and isn't prepared to defeat his father yet. It's the same thing in both canon and legends.
@@raidenn6266 canon vader more powerful than legend vader
Now why did Starkiller cut Luke's hand off?
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