I’m convinced they added GPF filters so we would slowly climatise ourselves to electric vehicles, if we no longer had that noise and visceral experience of proper “engines” then we wouldn’t miss them as much. Hey can’t make combustion engines seem appealing more than the milk float alternatives can we! Great video Joe finally sounds like it should
It's obvious. The EU pushed for regulations only for the purpose of switching away from combustion engines to an electric powerplant. The reasons aren't eco reasons, it's purely political. EU terrorists know that oil prices will probably spike because of something they're planning (hence why they're the first to know about it). So to prevent a collapse of vehicle travel because of some WW3 they're going to ignite...they're pushing for electric alternatives right now rapidly. Either that or oil is running out but they're keeping it low-key, because they don't want the dollar to collapse
@@EDKKPR I'm beginning to think the wrong side won WW2. "But Hitler was a prick!" - yeah..so was Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt. France also became terrorist pricks too not too long after WW2. Why is Hitler any worse? While the others are praised.
Totally agree. And in the clips with the original exhaust, the tyre noise is actually louder! What will they force upon us next, skinny wheels and tyres? I’m sick of these restrictions being forced on motorists of performance cars. The noise restrictions are taking the soul out of our cars. And like you say, conditioning us to electric “silence”.
I’ve got an F82 M4 Comp with a stock sports exhaust and I have to say that it sounds almost on par with your upgraded Milltek system, I get plenty of pops, crackles in Sports Plus. Honestly that is loud enough. To me it sounds purer, more natural through the rev range. I think for people generally commenting, if you haven’t heard both versions yourself it’s hard to make a judgement. Watching a UA-cam clip doesn’t really do justice to how a car sounds in person
Where are you located? There are pretty heavy noise restrictions where Joe is that causes BMW to essentially neuter the sound on their cars where he is.
@@SeanZherdev I’m in the UK as well. So with my F82, I didn’t realise how loud these cars are until I actually got mine, even with the stock sports exhaust it is loud enough throughout the rev range, sounds amazing
@@ravib3494 that’s awesome to hear. I feel like everyone I’ve seen from the UK has negatively commented on it, glad someone is finding it loud at stock. Enjoy your car in good health, thing is a beast!!
I think the pipes are too big - looks a bit stupid. Noise? Milltek always seem to get a great sound without being too 'offensive'. Had one of their systems on my TTRS (OPF) and it was spot on.
Going to get slated for this but prefer the stock exhaust - sounds like a 10 year old M3 with a broom handle stuffed up the exhaust to break the back box so it sounds louder - it’s like when a car like this drives past and you think knob…
Love the video (and I don’t think you’re a knob Joe) but I’m afraid I have to agree with you Steve. Definitely not a fan of the sound or look compared with the stock option.
Sound is why we love combustion engines...look what happened to the F1 live experience in the hybrid era. Great Mod and......to companies like Milltek, we appreciate you :)
Miltek is underrated, this car has woken up in a modest way, what a beautiful exhaust, shoutty enough to bring out the M3 to the party,it should have sounded this way from the factory...niceone, Joe..
You are getting an Xdrive????? ooohhhh now I like you even more for being brave enough to "rectify" the initial choice..... :) All the best my friend!!!! cant wait to get mine in March!!!!!
congrats on the exhaust but I don't like the sound try to get a valvetronic the sound is really something different. This is just louder and still sound like a vacuum cleaner
The design of the rear muffler is also part of the aerodynamic underfloor measures. Maybe it's not the prettiest but it does fill several functions in ways the Milltek system doesn't.
Another fantastic video Joe. When my dad had a Miltek system on his TT I really didn't pay a great deal of attention. He was raving on about it and I can see why now👍
Had a Milltek exhaust on my V5 Golf years ago. Sounded amazing. Sad to think that from 2030 no new internal combustion engine cars will be sold in the UK and exhaust modifications and the firms that make them will slowly die off.
Thanks for sharing, Joe. Oh my, now that sounds so much better! Fabulous product from Milltek. Just a pity we now need to spend extra to unleash a proper soundtrack on our cars.
@Joe, one question if I may: I noticed that this is not the OPF back system. So you have took out the OPFs and the CATs? Or did I understand wrong? Because I don't understand how did you not get a check engine error light since you took off the OPFs? I have the Milltek Equal Length Exhaust on my M2c and I got a check engine warning light from one of the OPFs and the OPFs are still in place. Could you pls shed some light? Thank you!
Totally agree, the car sounds fantastic.would love to remove my GPF.what happens when you need that mot,with no GPF fitted. You can’t keep removing/changing over exhausts,can you?.
@@JoeAchilles1 and the drone inside is not too bad? BTW, great videos. You always do a great job on the commentary. It is enjoyable to watch. I used to watch a lot of Doug DeMuro, but his stuff gets stale after a few videos. Keep up the great work. Also a question, I am looking at a IS500, I am not sure you guys will be getting it in UK, and the M3, manual, and I just cannot make up my mind. One is NA one is manual, and each of those things attract me. My question is this, how is the BMW reliability in your experience?😁
Wow that sounds amazing, love how similar it sounds to an E46. I know its all about taste but I don't know how a car enthusiast can live with a stock exhaust on any car!
@car crazy guy SA I just commented above before reading your comment. I disagree, I’ve got a F82 M4 comp, stock sports exhaust. Sounds fantastic, pure and natural. There is certainly nothing muffled about it and it is loud enough
I have a E46 M3 but I’m told I can’t have this standard exhaust fitted with a noise reducer (valve) inside because it is a 2006 model. Do you know different.
Nice piece of kit, looks very good but, to me, only sounds marginally better. More noise, cracks and bangs, but still does not quite deliver the delicious metallic music we should get from a straight 6. Beyond the various exhaust filters imposed by regulations, there is a more fundamental issue with turbocharged engines which are the norm these days. They just sound rough. Interesting question below: does the manufacturer warranty still hold with this customised exhaust ? Insurance costs going up or not ? Keep up the good content Joe 👍
@@antonystarling Hum, Tony does like disgreements...you like noise, cracks and bangs, fair enough. As all quick modern turbocharged cars sound like that, you must be in paradise ! Not my cup of tea but that does not take away the quality of the craftmanship nor the gain in aesthetic. My opinion mate.
Joe your M3 now sounds like it should've straight out of the factory but have you noticed any performance gains which is what the exhaust was fitted for? ?
Recenly bought a miltek sports cat for my B9 S4 and the quality of it was shocking. Welds were terrible and the flange was bent back, luckily it bent back when tightened up. Last miltek exhaust part I ever buy.
@@Shmarc150 Interesting, I had not considered impact. However, airflow is definitely considered when designing the profile of the back box when no other diffuser or flat floor etc is used.
@@Scala598 true, but the impact isn't that big... The whole under body is covered with holes and pipes. It doesn't have a fully covered floor so there is too much turbulence to really have a proper impact at the end of the car.
Hi there joe, your car sound lovely after the exhaust replacement! I would love to replace mine with the same exhaust system as yours. May i know which type did you choose? Thanks
Great to see the system on the car and making it all work for you. Happy miles until the xDrive arrives and you can swap it to the new one. Next is coding out the interior sound and installing the LEIB Engineering CAN bus module allowing you to switch the exhaust valves via the button on the dashboard among many other features 👊👊👊👊
Joe did you notice an improvement in turbo responce ? In top gear on the motorway, it feels like the turbo is spooling up much stronger about 400 rpm lower in the rev range. Before the turbo was spooling up around 1500 to 1600 rpm, after unblocking the exhaust, its like at 1200 to 1300 rpm there is some boost. Did you also get a small 3 to 4 mpg improvement ? Im comparing a long motorway run at 70mph before and after, improving by about 4mpg. Also love your channel and content. And the info on VRT and Vat taxes pushing up new car prices.
Your findings could well be true since you remove obstructions from the flow of the exhaust. The improvements in mpg are so difficult to determine. Those could well be a bit of a placebo feeling.
Sounds brilliant!!! Did you keep the original exhaust and will you transfer the exhaust over to the M3 xdrive when you get it or trade in with the exhaust and other options left on it?
Mate those pipes so big, the thumbnail looks shopped 🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣.... That's what she said!
@@JoeAchilles1 Death and Taxes and She said jokes are guaranteed 🤣
Sounds great! Love an exhaust with a dual personality 🙌
Cheers legend! Hope you get to drive it one day 🙌👊
Holy shit the size of those pipes lol. Sounds great mate and looks like an absolute weapon from the rear now.
Thank you, it's really transformed the car 👌
That’s what she said 😆
I’m convinced they added GPF filters so we would slowly climatise ourselves to electric vehicles, if we no longer had that noise and visceral experience of proper “engines” then we wouldn’t miss them as much. Hey can’t make combustion engines seem appealing more than the milk float alternatives can we! Great video Joe finally sounds like it should
That is actually the reason why the db is forced to get lower, though I believe the authorities realise themselves soon it's not realistic in the end.
It's obvious. The EU pushed for regulations only for the purpose of switching away from combustion engines to an electric powerplant. The reasons aren't eco reasons, it's purely political.
EU terrorists know that oil prices will probably spike because of something they're planning (hence why they're the first to know about it). So to prevent a collapse of vehicle travel because of some WW3 they're going to ignite...they're pushing for electric alternatives right now rapidly.
Either that or oil is running out but they're keeping it low-key, because they don't want the dollar to collapse
@@EDKKPR I'm beginning to think the wrong side won WW2.
"But Hitler was a prick!" - yeah..so was Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt. France also became terrorist pricks too not too long after WW2. Why is Hitler any worse? While the others are praised.
I think so too. With new EU regs making car exhausts be a max of 68 dB... that's nothing. A toilet flushing is louder than that.
Totally agree. And in the clips with the original exhaust, the tyre noise is actually louder! What will they force upon us next, skinny wheels and tyres? I’m sick of these restrictions being forced on motorists of performance cars. The noise restrictions are taking the soul out of our cars. And like you say, conditioning us to electric “silence”.
I’ve got an F82 M4 Comp with a stock sports exhaust and I have to say that it sounds almost on par with your upgraded Milltek system, I get plenty of pops, crackles in Sports Plus. Honestly that is loud enough. To me it sounds purer, more natural through the rev range.
I think for people generally commenting, if you haven’t heard both versions yourself it’s hard to make a judgement.
Watching a UA-cam clip doesn’t really do justice to how a car sounds in person
Where are you located? There are pretty heavy noise restrictions where Joe is that causes BMW to essentially neuter the sound on their cars where he is.
@@SeanZherdev I’m in the UK as well.
So with my F82, I didn’t realise how loud these cars are until I actually got mine, even with the stock sports exhaust it is loud enough throughout the rev range, sounds amazing
@@ravib3494 that’s awesome to hear. I feel like everyone I’ve seen from the UK has negatively commented on it, glad someone is finding it loud at stock. Enjoy your car in good health, thing is a beast!!
@@SeanZherdev thanks buddy 😌
The exhaust sound went from boss to absolute beast mode. Glorious sound!
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Most underrated automotive channel on YT!
Thank you 🙏
I think the pipes are too big - looks a bit stupid. Noise? Milltek always seem to get a great sound without being too 'offensive'. Had one of their systems on my TTRS (OPF) and it was spot on.
Great filming and editing that must have taken a lot of time to film. Love the sound.
Thank you, you're the only person to point that out, and yeah it took a while to film and edit 👌👊
Especially doing all on his own :D Really appreciate the work you put in Joe
Going to get slated for this but prefer the stock exhaust - sounds like a 10 year old M3 with a broom handle stuffed up the exhaust to break the back box so it sounds louder - it’s like when a car like this drives past and you think knob…
Respect your opinion, most people think I'm a knob regardless.
Love the video (and I don’t think you’re a knob Joe) but I’m afraid I have to agree with you Steve. Definitely not a fan of the sound or look compared with the stock option.
Sound is why we love combustion engines...look what happened to the F1 live experience in the hybrid era. Great Mod and......to companies like Milltek, we appreciate you :)
Sounds like an absolute weapon. Can we just take a minute to appreciate how joe is becoming a boss at the youtube game. Such pro
2022 BMW Gran Coupe.ua-cam.com/video/YgN9lVJb5N8/v-deo.html
Miltek is underrated, this car has woken up in a modest way, what a beautiful exhaust, shoutty enough to bring out the M3 to the party,it should have sounded this way from the factory...niceone, Joe..
You are getting an Xdrive????? ooohhhh now I like you even more for being brave enough to "rectify" the initial choice..... :) All the best my friend!!!! cant wait to get mine in March!!!!!
congrats on the exhaust but I don't like the sound try to get a valvetronic the sound is really something different. This is just louder and still sound like a vacuum cleaner
I deleted the opf of my rs6 with a akra downpipe and the full system. Sounds crazy. Thanks EU
The definitive before and after Joe. Lovely stuff…
The design of the rear muffler is also part of the aerodynamic underfloor measures. Maybe it's not the prettiest but it does fill several functions in ways the Milltek system doesn't.
Another fantastic video Joe. When my dad had a Miltek system on his TT I really didn't pay a great deal of attention. He was raving on about it and I can see why now👍
The beast finally unleashed! Man this sounds brutal!
Had a Milltek exhaust on my V5 Golf years ago. Sounded amazing. Sad to think that from 2030 no new internal combustion engine cars will be sold in the UK and exhaust modifications and the firms that make them will slowly die off.
The first 6 seconds say it all really! Love it.
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Sounds great Joe. Night n day sound difference. The deep richness from it. Yeah👍🏾
A 100% improvement right there. Savage!
I saw those blue tips in the animated thumbnail and had to watch the video . . so cool. Titanium is always a good choice as well, Joe.
Stunning, stunning, stunning and the smile on your face Joe, well i think they could see that on the moon 🌚
Haha yes big grin from ear to ear 😊
Lo dañaste. Volviste a non equal exhaust!!!!!
Man now it sounds as good as it looks 💪 what a motor. Think you made the right call on the titanium suits it perfect
Joe Car is Sounding sick af mate. Keep the mods coming yeah
Cheers bro 👊
Cheers my brother 🍾☺️
Incredible! Got a cobra valved back box delete for my M135i X drive coming next week can’t wait!
I Love seeing Joe going crazy with this M3cop BEAST!🤩
Thanks for sharing, Joe. Oh my, now that sounds so much better! Fabulous product from Milltek. Just a pity we now need to spend extra to unleash a proper soundtrack on our cars.
Cheers buddy glad you like it 👌
Am I the only one thinking the stock pipes look better and the sound doesn’t have enough tone, it’s just loud 🤢
📢💨💥Absolutely sounds the nuts mate. I love it. Thanks Miltek for letting Joe film. 💯💯
@Joe, one question if I may: I noticed that this is not the OPF back system. So you have took out the OPFs and the CATs? Or did I understand wrong? Because I don't understand how did you not get a check engine error light since you took off the OPFs?
I have the Milltek Equal Length Exhaust on my M2c and I got a check engine warning light from one of the OPFs and the OPFs are still in place.
Could you pls shed some light? Thank you!
Totally agree, the car sounds fantastic.would love to remove my GPF.what happens when you need that mot,with no GPF fitted.
You can’t keep removing/changing over exhausts,can you?.
Sounds amazing and great choice with the raw Ti tips. They look incredible.
I must be getting old, but the stock exhaust sounds better.
Stock sound decent from outside, but you can't hear anything from the driver's seat 👌
@@JoeAchilles1 and the drone inside is not too bad?
BTW, great videos. You always do a great job on the commentary. It is enjoyable to watch. I used to watch a lot of Doug DeMuro, but his stuff gets stale after a few videos.
Keep up the great work.
Also a question, I am looking at a IS500, I am not sure you guys will be getting it in UK, and the M3, manual, and I just cannot make up my mind. One is NA one is manual, and each of those things attract me. My question is this, how is the BMW reliability in your experience?😁
Sounds so much better, epic video as always Joe 🔥👍
Sounds like a proper Jaguar 3.0L V6 from the T-Type now. Nice!
That rear end and that sound.. holy shit 🔥 👀 👏 👏 👏
Absolutely love this Joe.
If cars could talk, this one was screaming something DIRTY with those phat pipes. Straight to the naughty step haha
Wow that sounds amazing, love how similar it sounds to an E46.
I know its all about taste but I don't know how a car enthusiast can live with a stock exhaust on any car!
Yep and m3 e46 exhust sounded shit to.
it’s sounded like it’s bafffles we’re Fucked
@car crazy guy SA I just commented above before reading your comment. I disagree, I’ve got a F82 M4 comp, stock sports exhaust. Sounds fantastic, pure and natural.
There is certainly nothing muffled about it and it is loud enough
Now that sounds like a proper m3 we'll done Joe
Sounds like a beast 💪
🚀🚀🚀
Thank you for the detailed video. Appreciate your efforts and time you've put in to educate about exhausts! Amazing sound. Great efforts.
I have a E46 M3 but I’m told I can’t have this standard exhaust fitted with a noise reducer (valve) inside because it is a 2006 model. Do you know different.
The tail pipes look awesome 👌
Cheers man, I love them ❤️
*The car sounds beautiful* 😍
Nice vid! Looks great and sound louder, but that exhaust note is probably not one that I’d want to hear more of.
Enjoyed this video Joe. Great seeing the journeys buddy 👌
Nice piece of kit, looks very good but, to me, only sounds marginally better. More noise, cracks and bangs, but still does not quite deliver the delicious metallic music we should get from a straight 6. Beyond the various exhaust filters imposed by regulations, there is a more fundamental issue with turbocharged engines which are the norm these days. They just sound rough. Interesting question below: does the manufacturer warranty still hold with this customised exhaust ? Insurance costs going up or not ? Keep up the good content Joe 👍
I love the thumbs up at the end??? Ffs
@@antonystarling tony 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Marginally better ??? Seriously ? 😂😂
@@antonystarling Hum, Tony does like disgreements...you like noise, cracks and bangs, fair enough. As all quick modern turbocharged cars sound like that, you must be in paradise ! Not my cup of tea but that does not take away the quality of the craftmanship nor the gain in aesthetic. My opinion mate.
@@jeromeuk and i value your opinion as much as mine, i have grown up in the v12 era, so we all have to make compromise.
Sounds fantastic and with the license plate on the front it doesn’t look so bad anymore.
Those huge pipes fit the car design better than the classic tiny ones.
That IS the sound yes, well done and that colour!
Joe will this pass an MOT with the GPF removed. Sounds awesome.
Damn you got those bazuka RS tailpipes
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One word mate “mega”
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It now has the sounds that suit the G8x platform!✅
Love it, must have on all modern cars..Need to hear this in person now! Sound better than the m2?
Joe your M3 now sounds like it should've straight out of the factory but have you noticed any performance gains which is what the exhaust was fitted for? ?
Are they equal length? Not sure the tone is an improvement
Sounds epic man!!
Is that Milltek in Derby?
Yeah it is
I really enjoyed watching this video! And the car... It sounds great! Keep up the good work Joe :)
It sounds a hell of a lot better, for sure - Shame about the gigantic tips though! Something slightly more subtle would be nicer!
Jon can you tell me how did you resolve the Engine Light when you cut the OPFs? Without touching the ECU?
Thanks
Great content
You hooligan 😂 Sound is incredible 🚀
Did you go for titanium tips I missed that bit that’s what I would’ve had good choice milltek has good pedigree
that sounds the nuts 🔥🔥👌🏻
Cheers Paul 👌
Sounda greatttt💪🏽💪🏽🔝
Joe great vids, did this milltek void your warranty?
Sounds and looks amazing!!! How much does it cost?
That sounds awesome fella, louder but not obnoxious 🙌❤️👍
The question is which sounds better Remus or Milltek?
I’m liking the bmw M Town merch !
Wow, that sounds sick 👌🏼 Looks awesome too
Cheers Peter 👊
Makes such a difference Joe,and you get that unique BMW rasp on the up changes.Definitely worth having done.
Recenly bought a miltek sports cat for my B9 S4 and the quality of it was shocking. Welds were terrible and the flange was bent back, luckily it bent back when tightened up. Last miltek exhaust part I ever buy.
What would something like that cost?
Cost not mentioned so perhaps why it's not a carbon tipped Remus
All costs are on their website, big black Friday sale on at the moment too. Didn't want carbon tips as have them on the M2, they do have them though.
is all of these affecting BMW's warranty?
How it should sound from factory. Sounds awesome Joe.👌🏻
Absolutely 👌
Christ on a bike. Its a BMW M3 finally. Sounds amazing 🤩🤩🤩🤩
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Man I love everything about the g80 but I cannot get over that front end. I need some company to come out with a good aftermarket
The OE back box is shaped and positioned on purpose to aid underbody airflow. Much the same for the m2 comp.
Nope not underbody airflow, but rear impact crash protection. This way the exhaust moves under the car when you get hit not inwards.
@@Shmarc150 Interesting, I had not considered impact. However, airflow is definitely considered when designing the profile of the back box when no other diffuser or flat floor etc is used.
@@Scala598 true, but the impact isn't that big... The whole under body is covered with holes and pipes. It doesn't have a fully covered floor so there is too much turbulence to really have a proper impact at the end of the car.
hahahhah oh yes :D that would be my choice aswell. de-opf is the way to go. love it, brother. epic video
Thanks legend, not quite as loud as your weapon, but close 🤣👊
17:00 what a sound!
Hi Joe, will this invalidate the manufacturer warranty for the car?
Ask your dealer 👌
Hi there joe, your car sound lovely after the exhaust replacement! I would love to replace mine with the same exhaust system as yours. May i know which type did you choose? Thanks
Sounds ace! But those tips are looking very NFS Underground
Sounds good that joe. Makes it sound more like the S55 did. Absolutely love that M4 though. For me it just works better than the M3.
It really does, cheers man 👊
Great car Joe
When is the Xdrive version coming and have u spec ‘d it up yet with Tony
Haha not until March/April next year, spec video coming soon 🎬
nice pipes... nice sound .... and more importantly ... nice car!!!
That sounds brutal, love it
Great to see the system on the car and making it all work for you. Happy miles until the xDrive arrives and you can swap it to the new one. Next is coding out the interior sound and installing the LEIB Engineering CAN bus module allowing you to switch the exhaust valves via the button on the dashboard among many other features 👊👊👊👊
Wow, sounds awesome, like a different car!!! 💙💙
Joe did you notice an improvement in turbo responce ? In top gear on the motorway, it feels like the turbo is spooling up much stronger about 400 rpm lower in the rev range. Before the turbo was spooling up around 1500 to 1600 rpm, after unblocking the exhaust, its like at 1200 to 1300 rpm there is some boost. Did you also get a small 3 to 4 mpg improvement ? Im comparing a long motorway run at 70mph before and after, improving by about 4mpg. Also love your channel and content. And the info on VRT and Vat taxes pushing up new car prices.
Your findings could well be true since you remove obstructions from the flow of the exhaust. The improvements in mpg are so difficult to determine. Those could well be a bit of a placebo feeling.
Second exhaust system sounds great 💯👌 and very louder.
Just need Mike at morebhp to tune into the 5s 100-200 now
Sounds brilliant!!! Did you keep the original exhaust and will you transfer the exhaust over to the M3 xdrive when you get it or trade in with the exhaust and other options left on it?