Trade secrets
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Not everyone is interested in a white collar job or college degree (or in racking up student loan debt). "Sunday Morning" senior contributor Ted Koppel meets plumbers and apprentices about their chosen profession, who talk about their work and why it's stigmatized by others.
#plumbers #trades #unions
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I was an union electrician and retired now. I had a great career! It was a challenge being a woman in the trades, I was one of the 1st 5 woman in the electrical union in my area in 1980. I loved it! I had no loans to pay back. I had to work the overtime hours and save to weather the storms when things got slow. I had great health benefits and still do, and I have a pension! So, how "dumb" is that!!! It was the smartest thing l ever did!! I thank the unions for being there for me. My father was an electrician too!
Love your comment, I'm a licensed electrician and I love it. Take care.
Nonunion electrician that might’ve did it a different way been doing it since 1993. You were a trailblazer for sure.
Loved this segment. A skilled tradesperson, who provides honest and good work, is a treasure. I respect and salute you all.
Getting your hands down inside an engine and fixing something that most people see as magic is extremely satisfying. I've been an automotive technician all my life. I'm one of those lucky people who can fix most anything with an engine in it. Being mechanically inclined is a very satisfying way to help people. Unfortunately I broke my back about 6 years ago and can no longer work in a shop 8 or more hours a day. I'm physically unable to. It's a hard pill to swallow for someone like me to not be able take my living with hands that way. We tradesmen take so much pride in our work.
Hats off to manual laborers! This is a great segment to enlighten the publlic how important laborers are in our evry day lives.
We need them!
Great segment. Ive been a mechanic all of my working life and actually got to feeling insecure about it when I, over the years, made friends with college-educated, white collar professionals. This actually drove me to get a Bachelors degree. What I came to realize was that I am every bit as intelligent (and was before the degree) as my friends with MBAs, and a great deal more capable than all of them. Im still a mechanic and now appreciate the job and myself much more.
We loved this segment! My husband is a former electrician of 20 years. We even had our teens watch this today. We want them to know that college is important, but not always necessary to make something of yourself and make a living.
Your videos are always the best💯 I do receive a notification each time you post a new video.. We'll have regrets for things we did not participate in...Investment should always be on any creative man's heart for success in life.
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@@georgebasonathan4784 Same here, started with $3,000 now earning $28,300 bi-weekly profits with his trading program.
I've been discussing this since middle school in 1995. It's nice to finally see it coming to the forefront in our country.
I was a Union Rigger for 40 years. I made a good living, had great benefits and now have a comfortable retirement. I served a 3 year apprenticeship and had to have constant training along with an exam every 4 years to keep my Rigging Certification. I took pride in my trade and the work I performed and never felt anyone looked down on me. I got dirty making that money but I looked good spending it!
I am always grateful for the help of tradesmen. Without them, we couldn't own a home because we don't understand all the systems that keep a house running. I always bake fresh treats for any tradesperson who comes to my home to show my appreciation. I think it's a fantastic option for kids who aren't headed for college and I wish they'd recruit more young women.
“You put trust in politicians and they’ll break your heart”. Very true for both political parties.
Absolutely. 2 hands on the same beast.
Only 1 side of the aisle stormed the capitol. Never forget that.
They are not the same...
DC "elected officials have ignored our Constitution and are now tied to the apron strings of the British (crashing) financial system.. Let's return to our Hamilton economic process instead of supporting the British/NATO trained Ukraine fascists....A new Architecture of security and development should be our goal.
@@frankgrabasse4642 yes they are
trump never let down his voters
I grew up on a farm and my Da & his cousin designed and built farm equipment to do jobs they needed done. Neither had a college degree. I have a bachelors and a masters degreee and always worked in an office setting. I'm now retired and live in the country. Finding a good plumber, electrician &/or mechanic is essential for me to have working farm equipment, vehicles, lawnmower and household appliciances. I don't have any of those skills ( my college degrees didn't train me for that work). Without these skilled professionals I am in a world of hurt. Thank you every trained plumber, electrician and mechanic!
Yes, we all need each other!
As someone who has been a CNA for 6 years is that people should be grateful that we're willing to take those jobs to take care of your grandmother or grandfather or Mom and Dad. The reason why I say they should be grateful cuz we're the ones are giving them the shower we're the ones helping them get dressed and take care of them. And a lot of those situations are with people who are dealing with Alzheimer's or dementia and that is just a whole other ball game. I suggest you go think you're a local CNA,MA, welder, plumber, or electrician because without us the world would not continue. And the great thing about tech school is you don't have student loans that you have to pay off. And one other thing about these trade Jobs is not only do you make a fair amount of money you also exercise quite a bit. In a typical day at work for me you're on your feet for a good 95% of the shift. You also gain a lot of muscle, learn patience and good communication skills especially when you're dealing with someone who has Alzheimer's or dementia.
I have total respect for the men and women who work in the trades.
BEST episode in a long time. KNOWLEDGE!!!
I've locked this recording in my dvr to never be deleted. This CBS Sunday, the entire taping, is one that's much needed right now. If we could all just sit still and listen to one another. 🇺🇸
Great segment. Most large public school districts should offer vocational classes like plumbing. Trades people deserve so much respect for the hard work they do.
I learned more from hanging around with the shop boys in HS than I did in class. After 2 years of talking to them "I Knew" how to replace a motor, tune it, diagnose and actually repair parts. They were called mechanics 50 years ago, now they are parts replacing "technicians."
In my lifetime, I saw this transition of middle class workers down to 2nd class citizens and it's really disgusting ego pride.
There’s more to these trades than meets the eye. Unless you’ve worked under a Master Plumber, you don’t know the first thing about plumbing. You might think you do, but you don’t.
Fantastic story!
Great piece on the elitism of the intellectual class. Without our trades people everything comes to a grinding halt.
They just think they’re intellectual and superior when in truth they are mostly educated fools.
Not really. I don't need validation from any of these people, I need them to make sure their student loan forgiveness application goes through so they can pay the repair bills I have to send to collections.
Sanitation Surgeons
My paternal grandfather and his brother started
Our family plumbing business
Going on 75 years
3 generation strong
trade workers built this country! how many young people went to college and never ended up working in the profession that they got their degree in, A lot.! what a waste of money. I am a retired operating engineer and went through apprenticeship program. I am proud of what I did and contributed and I do believe trade people are much more down to earth kind people
Phenomenal piece. Much respect to those in Trade.
It’s because collage has been marketed as the best and only option. Schools then cut down on pre-skilled training
Had my floors refinished this week - paid a pretty penny so I know they make good money - and could not have done it myself. My husband and I are both college educated so have made decent money in our lifetimes - so the money goes around and we all touch it. Minds are important and hands are important. Why are we pitting one against the other? It's not a competition. We all just need certain things done.
Amen .
@Rebekka D. well said. I posted something similar. It’s ludicrous to create conflict between trades and college educated but the media is to blame. We need both in society. I’ve been blue and white collar and I’ve never heard anyone put down tradesmen. This story just creates tension where none really exists.
One of the best segments this year. Good job
I love plumbers! I love our trash collectors! Thank goodness for people who do these jobs. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
As a former dishwasher, cook, and high steel worker, I think claim that "people look down on these people" is overblown. I have Ph.D. and work in a think tank that doesn't start with a conclusion and work backwards.
Let's start with facts and move forward Ted Kopple. Where did you get this idea?
Yes, lots of poor assumptions thrown around. My Teamster job paid my way through college, along with a few part-time jobs, and that college education allowed me to help build today's technology. It's all good if one follows their interests and recognizes the values everyone brings to society.
@@memathews My lead-man at Brown & Root had a Master's degree in English Literature form UW-Madison. That was 1981. I know a retired Lt. Col. who majored in art history, worked in procurement at the Pentagon. Vocational education is important, but it's not the reason for getting an education.
@@docadams1 Yes, that idea that education is only valuable if it is directly applicable to a job is rampant in recent American mythology. My degree was in journalism, but I parlayed that into marketing and worked on teams that brought widespread computer networking, online business, WiFi, and other tech that was just a dream 20 years ago. But I never write news or long form stories.
retired now, but i did a 5 year apprenticeship as a tool and die maker It was very challenging and rewarding, Oh and no debt. I got paid to learn
Those were the good old days. No one gives benefits anymore
My wife is a physician who does surgery. She loves working with her hands. She think very highly of the handyman and always gives me a hard time for not being able to fix things.
Teachers: Please play this segment for your students.
so important. we can't live without skilled work-people.
“Normal people” say “other people do that kind of work.” I rode in the work truck with my father starting at the age of 5 and stayed in the trades to work through college. I always had a chip on my shoulder cause of the way folks looked down on us. Interesting that “normal people” hired us to re-roof the house, remodel the kitchen, plow the snow…if it were so easy-why don’t you do it?
I’m now a white collar man trapped in a blue collar body
Who looked down on you? Did they say things to your face?
Happy to see CBS Sunday Morning finally highlight true Americans (Family, Faith, God…freedom to work).
You dont have to believe in god to be a true American. Don’t be an elitist.
They do it every week.
@@steveb796 God
@@colleenpowell462 Dog
Family? Nearly 50 percent of marriages end in divorce.
More people should be going into trades, too many unqualified people going to college
Some of us skilled trades people use that as a stepping stone into real estate and financial freedom. Many of them stories don't get told. Shoutout to the I.U.O.E
Plumbers and electricians are incredibly underrated.
God bless your souls!
And mechanic
Attempt to live in the comforts of life without these trades people. You couldn't. Never look down on any of them as insignificant.
This is Really an 'Eye Opening " Segment!!! ...How "We All NEED EACH OTHER" 🤔😊 ...."Help Each Other "...& LIFE is a Whole Lot Better !
This only works in states with good unions. Being in a trade in a "right-to-work" state is a losing game, that needs to be pointed out!
100% false, I’m in a right to work state making $150,000 a year as a residential electrician
@@KyloRen-1985 you must be the owner. Employees dont make anywhere close to that
I have always respected the blue collar workers. They are the backbone of this country!! But I know others will disagree and that’s ok. 🤷🏽♀️
77K as an apprentice?
Not bad!
This should definitely be an option.
Proud UA Local 38 Plumber here. I love it! Props to my fellow Union brothers and sisters.
UA apprenticeships are the best!!!! BEST decision I ever made!!!
As a high school Career & Technical Education teacher (Culinary Arts), THANK YOU!!!
Absolutely essential trades people! I do not understand some people's judgement, other than they have no idea the skill involved in trades...
Trades are where it's at for sure. 35 years in the trades and no regrets
He is mistaken - not all us office people look down - in fact, i envy you. 35 years sitting in front of a computer has crushed me physically and mentally.
You probably didn't automate enough.
Neither is uneducated. They are just educated in different disciplines.
ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS and have way more respect for them than any CEO!!! 😎🤗
I will always appreciate trades people. I wish there was more access to learning trades in public schooling.
Had a great conversation just now with a young man, 25 years old, straight from 602. Just offered encouragement to an old man.
This is so true. We have lost so much of our Nation's American Dream - the foundation of those dreams has always been 2 particular things:
Hardworking, Leading American Grit specialists - oldheads who were special jack of all trades
And Inspiriation - what those men generated into our hearts
These two seeds are always the root of what we anchored ourselves. But here's how that root has been changed:
The Elites of Conservative minded families and those of racial-minded ideals who look out for the Blue Collar guy, but doesn't want his daughter or son marrying a black, Latin or Asian person.
These two groups of men, always white, but developed over time into the Asian, Latin American having those same views - they began looking towards having more money and more control of this country.
These people, along with the Desinfranchised believing they were doing good, all together destroyed the very root of what drives Trade careers.
Suddenly it was about a degree. Especially for POC if you didn't finish high-school, it became about completing it to get to college.
The white elites both conservative in their politics and liberal but only when it comes to whites like home ownership, the GI Bill, etc.
My point is this, all of these people - black elitists as well - all of them played a massive role in removing Trades, Workshop, Homeshop, HOME Economics and other varies shops from Junior High and Highschool.
You would think, "Hey, let's push Publics Schools harder to develop in education. Let's start early. Place these shops in elementary. They get to do all that basic class curriculum while choosing a trade or two to stick with.
We can still encourage college, however, that's secondary until it becomes primary. Then continue it all in Junior High and Highschool.
By the time your kid is in early Middle school, she is training for the Olympics, ice-skating, track and field, gymnastics, etc.
Can you imagine that happening again?
Boy what an American dream that is!
I love and need my tradesmen...yes it might be expensive at times...but I don't have the skills they have to keep my home or car running!
I have a brother who's a carpenter and believe me it is a blessing. He does beautiful work fixing my condo
20 years ago I was told this. Made since then and makes even more since now. Not everyone is meant for college.
A 20-year veteran plumber, who has fixed thousands of homes and businesses, walks into a speciality coffee shop and orders regular black coffee. The college-educated (usually bachelor's in Psychology or English) barista looks up and down the plumber's appearance and gives them a side-eye. One has savings, experience, humility, stories to tell, and a meaningful skill that society needs, and the other can recite Shakespeare on queue.
Skillful engineers and tradesmen make the world go ‘round!
People really are ignorant. I've never looked down on these people. Most earn more than a white collar employee.
I’d say the majority of artist ( with or without an audience ) are much happier than any white collar employee.
More trades pay six figures today than master degrees these days simply from lack of workforce in the trades. Supply and demand.
Me neither. Carpenters are artists for instance.
Not more than most white-collar folks in tech.
Our highschool engineering teacher told us back in 2013: "kids, become welders, you'll thank me later".
Looking back at it, can't thank him enough
My kids Godfather was a master Plummer! Built hotels made excellent living retired Navy man! RIP Rich Gutterio
Show a poll that indicates white-collar workers look down on tradesmen. This is nothing but speculation and good tradesmen are paid well.
Love the trades, it leads to a well balanced life. More of the mind is used, both the mental and other parts of the brain are used that involve physical dexterity. Plus there is more exercise. Some folks SIT in an office all day and get there exercise 30-60 minutes after work doing some cardio activity. A tradesman gets a day long low cardio activity that requires physical to mental dexterity. Then there is the pride from being able to say " I helped build that." The bridges I helped build can last for centuries and wooden structures hundreds of years. Office work is not like that. I have done both and was tired, may ache, after being on a job site for 8-10 hours. That is better than office stress. Healthier as well. Finally, there are side hustles. Help your buddies build a garage or house for the price of the permits and materials and a relative small amount of time. Save thousands of $$$.
i welded for companies around the world for 25 years. i retired and now only putter around my shop doing cash work. but i been fixing bikes,small engines,plumbing ,roofing since i was in high school. people looked down on me then so i stopped caring what society thought. living my life on my terms without carrying debt or concern for others opinions was the greatest gift i could have ever given myself. watching american society collapse into chaos and stupidity has been satisfying. congratulations america , you're troubles are self inflicted ,long term and deserved.
All the trades create wealth, lasting wealth, in the form of useful property. I am an old carpenter who has accumulated more net worth over my life than my wife who is a doctor. Rich folks do not build their own stuff, we do. We have built and sold 5 properties that are all paid for and earning every month. No college required. When you absorb the big picture of building and make it your own.
Trades are the best!
It's quite sad that our society looks down on the people that literally keep the country running. The grocery stores are empty without truckers, your plumbing and electricity doesn't work with plumbers and electricians.
What’s funny is that you actually believe this story. Who are all these people looking down on tradesmen??
He’s absolutely correct, they want to feel above others. Go to any federal government office and you will get that attitude all day.
Awesome insight, need more of these. Going to trade school to enter the HVAC field was a great turning point for me in my life
Bravo, I love this. I have great respect for those who can build! Certainly hope we increase this message at home, at school and in the community. Too many go to college and leave with debt because they are taught they have to go to college. Do what you love and the money will follow.
My son went to aircraft mechanic school under the Tennessee lottery scholarship for free and graduated 18 months later with an A&P license. He had an initial job offering 2 weeks later and work for the company 5 years before accepting an even better offer starting at 70k a year with great benefits recently. Trades are where it is at nowadays and thanks to Mike Rowe for being the champion of a career in trades for so many years!
My wife and I are/were white collar. We've both been to college. However, we do not look down on people in the trades. We have brothers/sisters/nephews in the trades. We've encouraged others in our families to avoid loans to go to college. I'd like to know how all those people being interviewed feel that people are looking down on them.
I have done amateur electric and plumbing work and the result may function safely but is never as artful and creative as a professional. I have an MBA has the highest respect for tradesmen as artisans and craftsmen. (in my mind tradesmen and craftsman are indefinite (either sex) English language gender words, the female plumber that worked for me was fantastic).
In high school kids are told that if they don't get in line they are going to end up in shop class, so the achievers for the most part keep their distance. They go on to university and if they can make that work may end up being doctors or engineers or other such things. Then they retire and study the shop classes as best they can and fulfill a need in themselves that always existed. The country is filled with doctors learning woodworking. Shop classes achieve most of the reasons algebra is taught to people who will never really directly use it. Factoring down to a solution, only with a tangible result. A place where nothing is cheating as long as it is safe. Where the result tells the story. Where one truly has the freedom to think a process through, and has to, and finds a reality that is immediate and necessary yes, academic.
One issue with the trades is training. Electrical union is 3 to 4 years to be a journeyman. Or get a degree in the same time, both can be free. One has more room for opportunity. The other is a union electrician for life
The dignity of labor has been greatly scarred and diminished in our society, this is proving daily to be a calamity.
How much savings did he aquire from that think tank before starting his humble motorcycle shop 🤣
Hey! Girls do construction too! You couldn't have found one to talk to? 👷♀️
Women are woefully underrepresented in the trades, especially in construction trades like plumbing. I thought Koppel gave them a bit of a pass on that.
I’m planning to go this and,I’m 30 years old …I’m just confused and,I feel like I waste a lot of years doing nothing but, non skills jobs ….now starting new things r scaring me …i as an immigrant with,not a perfect English..Its going to take me many years …I wanna go mechanic or other thing …I hope I’m gonna make it …
You are very young and have about 40 more years to work. Find out if your area has a technical institute. Many offer financial aid and English classes. Good luck to you.
I have an MBA from UC Berkeley, but I’m totally for people skipping college for trade school. As a society, we need to respect people’s decision to not go to school.
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Hats off to the blue collar worker. Y'all keep society functioning despite being looked down up by some in society.
From a financial standpoint, getting into the trades is a successful career path to go down. I work in a white collar industry, but many of my customers are in the trades and the difference between those in the trades versus those in white collar industries with a college education from a financial standpoint is drastic. Would you rather make 75k with hundreds of thousands in student loan debt or 75k with no student loan debt? Plus these trades are in such high demand with a low labor supply, so you can be an employee and make great money but you can also open your own business in your trade and make great money as well. I have such admiration for the trades and they are great folks!
Wow this needed to be said! That's right it is a 5 year program, they must be supervised by a Master and the must pass a journeyman AND the Licensure exams and yes they avg about $60k to start ... the guy explained it perfectly ... you have to know math, science, materials, codes, functions of other trades, and you master the principles of the trade then any them to innumerable functional situations ... plumbing is NOT just toilets ... heck some plumbers never fix a toilet ... they are almost engineers to an extent
Well done CBS
I’m a college-grad white-collar worker and I have MORE respect for skilled tradespeople than my own group. I like my group fine, but the world doesn’t stop functioning if we can’t come to work one day. Without the skills of plumbers, electricians, welders, highway workers, our modern life would cease to function. Thanks to all the tradespeople.
I envy those men; they work with their hands and head, and end up having a house of their own.
We don’t need another MBA , we do need mechanics and plumbers , and it does not have to be either or
Great job on there brothers 💪 and sisters 👏👏👏
Bravo! Very well presented!
Skills & trades will be always be needed and it's education w/o indoctrination. Mike Roe of Dirty Jobs has done much to give value to many of those less than glamorous occupations that are so necessary & many times underappreciated. I believe he also started a scholarship for skills & trades, too. Some of the best people I know are electricians, welders, plumbers, etc. & not one of them has a low income nor a low IQ.
Knew a guy who was a truck driver made 90k a year
"Knew" is the operative word.
Yep I went to trade school and I’m online school
Thank you for that post lol it really makes me proud to be a Welder/fabricator
I still consider myself a land surveyor/Project Inspector.
Had a dental hygienist instructor that went to college . First yr trained/educated as assistant. Second year education for hygienist. Wound up initially with AS. By time I met her she had MS. She was totally against "training."
I am NOT!
If I'd received assistant training it would have made me a better hygienist.
I’m not embarrassed I worked my way through college. I am educated , some people are good in a skill.
Local 5 in the house 🎉
The "Myth" never existed in good highschool teachers. We knew and understood those who had the special talent to have a trade. Other counties educate to that end early. One must have a set of problem solving skills surpassing the book taught degree to have a trade.
Great piece.
Great segment!
English 101: At 6:10 of the segment: "When you locked at home and...this doesn't work, whoM do you call?" (Answer: You call theM).