Gedda IS Werther. By his nature, by natural melancholy of his voice, by physiognomy, by his aristocratism... No other tenors up to date sung this aria so beautifully...
Esta aria expresa un estado de animo,una melancolia,una tristeza,una desolacion ,a la vez una rebeldia de frente a la vida. Como estudio psicologico pocas arias expresan tan acertadamnte bien estos sentimientos que a algunos les hace maldecir, a otros llorar y a los tenores bien dotados cantar con pasion sin igual como hace Gedda aca. Impresionante.
Inutile fare confronti!!!! Ma GEDDA è un vero gigante, nel suo vasto repertorio, non era secondo a nessuno. Cantava egregiamente in 5 lingue, bella voce angelica e con estensione all'infinito. Tra i più grandi!!!!! Beautiful
One of the most beautiful arias ever written! Marvellous interpretation! Difficult to imagine it more beautifully sung than this! Great Gedda! Bravissimo!
@@guidogreco341 lei è un vero intenditore di lirica... Noto sempre I suoi commenti sotto video di tenori magnifici, e sono sempre commenti azzeccati... Complimenti
che emozione.. quante cose ha dai insegnare ai tenorucoli di oggi questo monumento di tecnica e di espressività di musicalità e di serietà. Non si può non capire come ogni passaggio sia studiato nei fdettagli niente è lasciato a a caso.. dinamica, intensità posizione tenuta di fiato.. e fraseggio sempre appoggiato.. giovani tenori ascoltatelo!!! Grande Gedda.
Quelle plaisir de pouvoir regarder ce vidéo. L'un de mes airs favoris interprété a la perfection par le grand Nicolai Gedda. A la fois aristocratique et sympathique. Chpeau M. Gedda! Et merci mujviktor. Vive le partage! :-)
Il suo repertorio quale tenore lirico.Insierme a Krauss sono la massima espressione della tecnica...Sul bel canto preferisco Gigli e Byorling...Di Stefano...
Si no fue el mejor, por ahí anda. Su do brillante de pecho con su contextura física es dificil de explicar. Pero sus interpretaciones y su dicción claras lo hacen uno de los mejores del siglo XX, Pero no comparemos porque siempre es odioso.
Este gran tenor Austriaco ahora casi no se le recuerda, sin embargo en los 50's era uno de los mejores, y aquí se puede apreciar porqué. Algunos compararon su voz con la de Caruso. Es definitivamente de los grandes.
In this particular aria he is, if nothing else, better than Corelli, Gigli, or even Pavarotti. It's probably what most experienced opera lovers would say. But of course, every opinion is an opinion.
I meant what's so special in Pavarotti for YOU? As for me, I already have an immunity to his voice. For me it was just a promoted image of a huge man with "a larger than life personality" with a lot of friends and good marketing skills. I've heard his singing more often than any other operatic singer in the world. I can listen to his voice but I don't "hear" it at all. True music really goes beyong words. If Pavarotti isn't just a symbol for you, you can explain. I'm just curious what YOU hear?
Thank you for your comment. Dutchman does not cry his desperation all opera long, and the plot is complex, Peter grimes either. Additionally, both characters benefit from a first rate music and a good libretto... which is not the case with Werther (I understand french, not to say that Massenet has written one of the most insignificant and vulgar music). Regarding your other examples, I can hardly stand most of the italian opera. My opinion...
@poolification Thank you for your advice. I'll check it too and compare. You mean the quality of the recording is better? I think that this interpretation is just magnificent! Thank you anyway.
@Herur22 Thanks for your reply. I didn't know it. Of course, it's just a matter of taste, and different opnions about art, artists, voices, interpretations often clash. But personally I can't understand how can somebody hate GEDDA?! He is so great with his mavelous, magical, very noble voice with a unique, very pleasant timbre, and intelligent interpretations! There are only few such noble voices of all time! Why try to enlighten people that it's bad?!:-)
@serenaluce I agree completely with you. Bodiloto keeps saying that Gedda's voice was really very small and very ugly and that he has to thank for his career exclusively to the sound technicians. Imagine that! I read in several comments here on You Tube that no recording could express the beauty of his voice as heard in the house.
@serenaluce Actually, I think the recital version he did in Salzburg 1961 is even more beautiful. In my opinion, that's the ultimate Pourqoui... You should check it out here on youtube if you haven't already.
Even Pavarotti?! You really put him higher than Corelli and Gigli?! How about other great artists? What's so special in him? He was just very well promoted!
Thank you for your reply. I only didn't understand where I made "a linguistic mistake"?! I wrote only "even Pavarotti?" Because you put him higher than Corelli ad Gigli, and I think that they are greater artists than him. Anyway, what do you advise me to replay? What pieces from his masteclasses do you recommend me to listen "to see a touch of his great personality"? I'm just curious.
You know...I think the person I replied to removed their comment, because for the life of me I can't find anything in the comments that makes sense for me to have said that :) I don't remember.
Tito Schipa owned this aria. Gedda is wonderful---but nobody ever executed the two ad lib diminuendi (on the text "O soufffle de printemps") in this aria as Schipa did.
@aaronsande actually, a dramatic tenor role will fall lower in tessitura than lyric tenor. sometimes it will even go a little bit into the baritone register. but yes, you're right, Gedda is no Corelli. however, I think Corelli's voice was more powerful than Del Monaco. higher yes, but more powerful
Powerfull ? Aucun intérêt dans ce rôle pour ténor 1/-2 caractère ou caractère .. Mais GEDDA était à la limite pour ses moyens vocaux Très grand interpŕète mais dans une intégrale ...allez voir ce qui ce faisait en 1932 ..sur 1 seule prise d’enregistrement.. Eluzalyrics
very good i like it very much is my favorite version after kraus, only cuz for me the vokce of gedda is a little more dramatic ( i said more drammatic, i didnt said he was a spinto or drammatic tenor, he is lyric) voice then i would like to hear in these roll but that doesnt not take away the greateness
Hello! Aha, this is a linguistic mistake; "or even," should be "or". Anyway; in my youth I was never fond of Pavarotti, I thought his voice (the timbre) was cold and laser-like, his musical performing was soulless etc. Over the years I changed my mind. Today I think he was a great singer and a great personality, although he is not among my favorites. If you look up his masterclasses here on YT you can see a touch of his great personality. Please replay
I prefer the tenors mentioned to Gedda, and I think they surpass him in Italian opera. However, for this aria and this opera, none of the tenors you mentioned could dream of singing it as well as Gedda does here.
@bodiloto E' proprio Gedda che ha realizzato guesta bella registrazione. E' semplice. A proposito, no, non ho mai sentito Gedda dal vivo. Non posso giudicare dalla sua bellissima voce? E lei, ha mai sentito e.g. Caruso, Gigli, etc. dal vivo? Non ha il suo parere? Solo degli artisti cui ha sentito dal vivo come Pavarotti?
@Herur22 I believe those lucky ones who heard Gedda live as it's always better to listen to artists on stage and not in the recording. As for sound technicians, if even now with all their manipulations with the voice, sound they can't turn a poor voice into a great one, if it's empty it remains empty, if the artist shares no soul an understanding listener will feel it, at the time when Gedda sang it was impossible to make an ugly and small voice to sound beautiful and full! So, it's nonsense...
@bodiloto Qual'e' il suo problema? Non le piace questa registrazione? Che c'e' di male? Perche' grazie ai tecnici di suono? Non e' d'accordo che Gedda sia uno dei grandissimi tenori di tutti i tempi?
I like Pavarotti a good deal, and in a few things (fille du regiment, some tosti songs, etc) I could almost say I love him.... he was also among the best Rodolfo's and Duca's ever. That said, I find when listening to him in general, that I "reach bottom" with him rather quickly. (for lack of a better term.) He doesn't hold my interest. Not sure why that is exactly.
@bodiloto Io rispetto il suo parere, ma per me c'e molto in comune fra loro e Gedda, perche' per me LUI e' uno dei piu' grandi tenori come LORO! Per me Gedda e' meglio che e.g. Bjoerling - numero UNO di tutti i tempi secondo BBC magazine! Non faccio declarazioni chi e' numero uno per me - forse Gedda, forse Wunderlich, forse Atlantov, qualcun altro, ma Gedda e' proprio eccezionale tra i grandi tenori! De gustibus non disputandum!
Une diction absolument parfaite, une expressivité magnifique, quel immense artiste !
Splendido tenore!!!
Esta aria expresa un estado de animo,una melancolia,una tristeza,una desolacion ,a la vez una rebeldia de frente a la vida.
Como estudio psicologico pocas arias expresan tan acertadamnte bien estos sentimientos que a algunos les hace maldecir, a otros llorar y a los tenores bien dotados cantar con pasion sin igual como hace Gedda aca. Impresionante.
There never was a better
Werther. Gedda was the greatest tenor ever.- So dedicated to his
Art always!
Inutile fare confronti!!!! Ma GEDDA è un vero gigante, nel suo vasto repertorio, non era secondo a nessuno. Cantava egregiamente in 5 lingue, bella voce angelica e con estensione all'infinito. Tra i più grandi!!!!! Beautiful
Oh how beautiful…
12 fools.
This is masterpiece. Expression is so precise, so communicative. Magnificient Gedda.
He´s my favorite tenor and the best WERTHER ever!
One of the most beautiful arias ever written! Marvellous interpretation! Difficult to imagine it more beautifully sung than this! Great Gedda! Bravissimo!
Divine and unique Nicolai Gedda!
This is MAGIC!
Bravo Monsieur Gedda
Une maîtrise totale de la voix et de votre art, pour notre bonheur ...
Wow! This rendition really blew me away! What tenderness and strenght, a truly masterfull rendition of a fantastic aria. Gedda at his best.
Unmattched!
In qesta romanza si supera..eccezionale.
che emozione.... voce! eleganza! timbro! fraseggio! squillo! dinamiche interpretative ed espressive... un GRANDE TENORE!
The best version;)
Rocky Krajnc Totally agree
@@guidogreco341 lei è un vero intenditore di lirica... Noto sempre I suoi commenti sotto video di tenori magnifici, e sono sempre commenti azzeccati... Complimenti
Ecco un vero grande tenore!
che emozione.. quante cose ha dai insegnare ai tenorucoli di oggi questo monumento di tecnica e di espressività di musicalità e di serietà.
Non si può non capire come ogni passaggio sia studiato nei fdettagli niente è lasciato a a caso.. dinamica, intensità posizione tenuta di fiato.. e fraseggio sempre appoggiato..
giovani tenori ascoltatelo!!!
Grande Gedda.
Bravo Gedda!! Bravo!
Absolutely beautiful!!!!
N.Gedda war eine imposante Persönlichkeit, nicht nur als Sänger, auch als Mensch.
Quelle plaisir de pouvoir regarder ce vidéo. L'un de mes airs favoris interprété a la perfection par le grand Nicolai Gedda. A la fois aristocratique et sympathique.
Chpeau M. Gedda!
Et merci mujviktor. Vive le partage! :-)
AMAZING!!! By far my favorite I've heard so far!
You should try Jonas Kaufmann
Kaufmann ingolato.
René Pariente Magnifique interprétation du plus bel air de Werther.
Le classieux Nicolai Gedda ... Il n'y a qu'un homme du Nord qui puisse "intégrer" Werther ...
Amitiés à tous :-))
Such beauty!!
Grande Gedda, un cantante fantastico, veramente adorabile!
Insuperabile in questo repertorio ! Grande Gedda !
Björling !
Gigli Di Stefano
Kraus
@@e.g.8454Pippo no sabía cantar repertorio Francés adecuado.
I agree that this is the performance to set the Standard of excellence. Bravissimo!
C'est un clip on ne peut plus traditionnel mais le style Gedda est incomparable. Une technique de chant hors du commun
Bravo....adatto alle sue corde vocali...
this just puts me to tears...
Thank you VERY much for sharing this with us!!!!!! Gedda at his best - just as in Pretre's recording of the complete opera for EMI/Angel!
VERY BEAUTIFUL
Hermoso, perfecto, gran interpretación. Muy buen video y audio. Gracias "mujviktor"
what a totally AWESOME voice.
One of the most powerfull voices in history. Regards.
Great in every sense!
It´s really great,nice!!!
C'est magnifique en effet.
BRAVISSIMO!!!
Il suo repertorio quale tenore lirico.Insierme a Krauss sono la massima espressione della tecnica...Sul bel canto preferisco Gigli e Byorling...Di Stefano...
Peccato che il grande Jussi Bjorling non ha mai fatto il Werther.
@@e.g.8454 E vero😢🙏
World class!
Brillante
none of the French tenors chould sing the french arias like his
best accent and phrase ever
great!!!
It would be nice if you two would continue your discourse privately and leave this video to those who enjoy Gedda's singing.
Si no fue el mejor, por ahí anda. Su do brillante de pecho con su contextura física es dificil de explicar. Pero sus interpretaciones y su dicción claras lo hacen uno de los mejores del siglo XX, Pero no comparemos porque siempre es odioso.
This is impressive!
mujviktor, thanks and mostly for your words, yea Gedda is Gedda and that's it
Wow!
Vila i frid, Nicolai.
Le note le accarezza..un tenore eccezionale..in questa romanza rasenta la perfezione...
Friends, what Gedda can - only Gedda can.
Скипа, Гедда, Краус-три лучших Вертера, на мой взгляд...Гедда поет изумительно.
Бельканто!!! 👏👏👏
i think this opera was written for a tenor, but doesnt say specifictly what kind of tenor, I love this version
Bravo Gedda!
very good pronunciation as well as singing.
Sehr gut, Gedda. Gut gemacht.
Nicolai Gedda was an extraordinary tenor. Alfredo Kraus, the one Werther
Nicolai Gedda! Werther!!
Este gran tenor Austriaco ahora casi no se le recuerda, sin embargo en los 50's era uno de los mejores, y aquí se puede apreciar porqué. Algunos compararon su voz con la de Caruso. Es definitivamente de los grandes.
@serenaluce
>What's so special in him?
Music goes beyond words.
If you can not hear it, how shall I explain it..?
Kraus and gedda best werther...🎉
😍😍😍😍😍🌷🌷🌷
In this particular aria he is, if nothing else, better than Corelli, Gigli, or even Pavarotti. It's probably what most experienced opera lovers would say.
But of course, every opinion is an opinion.
I meant what's so special in Pavarotti for YOU? As for me, I already have an immunity to his voice. For me it was just a promoted image of a huge man with "a larger than life personality" with a lot of friends and good marketing skills. I've heard his singing more often than any other operatic singer in the world. I can listen to his voice but I don't "hear" it at all. True music really goes beyong words. If Pavarotti isn't just a symbol for you, you can explain. I'm just curious what YOU hear?
Beaultiful!
You should hear Lebensessenz - melancholic classical piano music, working with themes like Werther.
@mhax3 You realize of course that there is also a baritone version.
mi piace molto,anzi moltissimo
Si beau! Existe-t-il la video complete?
Thank you for your comment. Dutchman does not cry his desperation all opera long, and the plot is complex, Peter grimes either. Additionally, both characters benefit from a first rate music and a good libretto... which is not the case with Werther (I understand french, not to say that Massenet has written one of the most insignificant and vulgar music). Regarding your other examples, I can hardly stand most of the italian opera. My opinion...
@poolification Thank you for your advice. I'll check it too and compare. You mean the quality of the recording is better? I think that this interpretation is just magnificent! Thank you anyway.
@Herur22 Thanks for your reply. I didn't know it. Of course, it's just a matter of taste, and different opnions about art, artists, voices, interpretations often clash. But personally I can't understand how can somebody hate GEDDA?! He is so great with his mavelous, magical, very noble voice with a unique, very pleasant timbre, and intelligent interpretations! There are only few such noble voices of all time! Why try to enlighten people that it's bad?!:-)
@serenaluce
Exactly.
@serenaluce
I agree completely with you.
Bodiloto keeps saying that Gedda's voice was really very small and very ugly and that he has to thank for his career exclusively to the sound technicians. Imagine that!
I read in several comments here on You Tube that no recording could express the beauty of his voice as heard in the house.
@serenaluce Actually, I think the recital version he did in Salzburg 1961 is even more beautiful. In my opinion, that's the ultimate Pourqoui...
You should check it out here on youtube if you haven't already.
MUY HERMOSO, GRAN INTERPRETACIÓN, TANTO COMO LA DEL GRAN MAESTRO FRANCO CORELLI. La diferencia es la bellisima y gran voz del Maestro Corelli..
Corelli tenia una pésima dicción francesa
This is very interesting. May I enquire with whom am I supposed to have quarelled? It seems I have a short memory. And who is the other "him"?
Even Pavarotti?! You really put him higher than Corelli and Gigli?! How about other great artists? What's so special in him? He was just very well promoted!
Thank you for your reply. I only didn't understand where I made "a linguistic mistake"?! I wrote only "even Pavarotti?" Because you put him higher than Corelli ad Gigli, and I think that they are greater artists than him. Anyway, what do you advise me to replay? What pieces from his masteclasses do you recommend me to listen "to see a touch of his great personality"? I'm just curious.
@serenaluce
I feel exactly the same. I was never attracted to Pavarotti.
You know...I think the person I replied to removed their comment, because for the life of me I can't find anything in the comments that makes sense for me to have said that :) I don't remember.
I believe that Alfredo Krauss also sing this aria very well, or even exc i think, off course i admit that Gedda its very very good tenor....
Great!! No doubt about it; What about Pavarotti? I include him too, don't you?
Your hearing the man at his best. In complete control of the material he is singing and it shows compared to later versions when he "battled" with it
Tito Schipa owned this aria. Gedda is wonderful---but nobody ever executed the two ad lib diminuendi (on the text "O soufffle de printemps") in this aria as Schipa did.
@aaronsande
actually, a dramatic tenor role will fall lower in tessitura than lyric tenor. sometimes it will even go a little bit into the baritone register. but yes, you're right, Gedda is no Corelli. however, I think Corelli's voice was more powerful than Del Monaco. higher yes, but more powerful
Powerfull ?
Aucun intérêt dans ce rôle pour ténor 1/-2 caractère ou caractère ..
Mais GEDDA était à la limite pour ses moyens vocaux
Très grand interpŕète mais dans
une intégrale ...allez voir ce qui ce faisait en 1932 ..sur 1 seule prise d’enregistrement..
Eluzalyrics
very good i like it very much is my favorite version after kraus, only cuz for me the vokce of gedda is a little more dramatic ( i said more drammatic, i didnt said he was a spinto or drammatic tenor, he is lyric) voice then i would like to hear in these roll but that doesnt not take away the greateness
this coming from a light lyric tenor? my my, I am pleasantly surprised. 5/5
Hello!
Aha, this is a linguistic mistake; "or even," should be "or".
Anyway; in my youth I was never fond of Pavarotti, I thought his voice (the timbre) was cold and laser-like, his musical performing was soulless etc.
Over the years I changed my mind. Today I think he was a great singer and a great personality, although he is not among my favorites.
If you look up his masterclasses here on YT you can see a touch of his great personality.
Please replay
I prefer the tenors mentioned to Gedda, and I think they surpass him in Italian opera. However, for this aria and this opera, none of the tenors you mentioned could dream of singing it as well as Gedda does here.
@bodiloto E' proprio Gedda che ha realizzato guesta bella registrazione. E' semplice. A proposito, no, non ho mai sentito Gedda dal vivo. Non posso giudicare dalla sua bellissima voce? E lei, ha mai sentito e.g. Caruso, Gigli, etc. dal vivo? Non ha il suo parere? Solo degli artisti cui ha sentito dal vivo come Pavarotti?
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@Herur22 I believe those lucky ones who heard Gedda live as it's always better to listen to artists on stage and not in the recording. As for sound technicians, if even now with all their manipulations with the voice, sound they can't turn a poor voice into a great one, if it's empty it remains empty, if the artist shares no soul an understanding listener will feel it, at the time when Gedda sang it was impossible to make an ugly and small voice to sound beautiful and full! So, it's nonsense...
Of course is a playback, we all know that. Such clips are usually recorded with playback.
is there such a thing as a "tenor assoluto" (being able to sing from leggiero tenor down to dramatic tenor)
Gedda is the Korean war of Tenors
Would you kindly tell us which two has to shut up in your opinion?
@monpitt500
he sounds plenty powerful to me (which is rather an anomaly when you consider he could turn around and sing almost as high as a woman)
@bodiloto Qual'e' il suo problema? Non le piace questa registrazione? Che c'e' di male? Perche' grazie ai tecnici di suono? Non e' d'accordo che Gedda sia uno dei grandissimi tenori di tutti i tempi?
I like Pavarotti a good deal, and in a few things (fille du regiment, some tosti songs, etc) I could almost say I love him.... he was also among the best Rodolfo's and Duca's ever.
That said, I find when listening to him in general, that I "reach bottom" with him rather quickly. (for lack of a better term.) He doesn't hold my interest. Not sure why that is exactly.
@bodiloto Io rispetto il suo parere, ma per me c'e molto in comune fra loro e Gedda, perche' per me LUI e' uno dei piu' grandi tenori come LORO! Per me Gedda e' meglio che e.g. Bjoerling - numero UNO di tutti i tempi secondo BBC magazine! Non faccio declarazioni chi e' numero uno per me - forse Gedda, forse Wunderlich, forse Atlantov, qualcun altro, ma Gedda e' proprio eccezionale tra i grandi tenori! De gustibus non disputandum!