As a kayak angler, I have never encountered as many scary, big, entitled boaters in my life in no wake zones turning me into a human surfboard.You can't fix stupid! I just try to get away when anyone gets close. It's not worth the aggravation. I was thrown into a boat dock had my head split open throw against rocks,and my trolling motor was hung in huge rocks.the boater made a second pass a waved as I screamed Im bleeding ..I was shot yes shot at on a public lake by a homeowner who lived on the lake..I did call the police..and about 6 months later it happened again to another female kayak angler...I was at high-bridge a slow no wake zone draw bridge in flagler florida was dropped in the drink by a huge bayliner, but a very kind sailboater fished me out gathered my gear wrapped me in a blanket and fixed me a cup of coffee.Thanks Captain Bill.For the most part there are good kind sober boaters...its the one percent that are rude and careless ⛵️🚤🛥
A lake near my home is popular for fisherman, kayakers, and pleasure boaters. It gets pretty rough with boat wake and wind waves. Never fails, someone in a kayak gets killed every year because people don’t grasp that you can’t see what’s in the trough of a wave.
So had an experience I didn’t expect earlier this year. Had the privilege to be a boat official at an elite event. I was in a boat with an angler and it had been a real struggle that day for him. He made a run to a new area he pre-fished and started down a bank. Short time in the pocket and a well known angler entered to our starboard side which was the direction we were headed. The guy I was with, just lifted his trolling motor and went to another area. No conflict. I was proud of how he handled himself especially considering how the day was going. He commented when it happened under his voice but did the right thing. He wasn’t catching anything so took the high road.
I recently got into fishing at the ripe old age of 40 and just wanted to say I've very much enjoyed watching your videos. Wishing you and your beautiful family all the best!
Papaw used to say “ALWAYS ALWAYS - you always take the high road, you won’t ever regret it. So - for me - just go somewhere else. You keep doing you - I’ll follow this rule. Thanks.
Maybe when you grow up, you will learn how to use the proper term- "GRANDFATHER". Toddlers who can't speak use those silly nicknames. We teach toddlers how to speak- not the other way around.
@@cuivre2004That’s all you took away from his comment? That he chooses to call his grandfather “Paw Paw”? Not that he has a very reasonable perspective on rude boaters?
@@spintowinstradic6067 Him being told how to think from someone else, vs his own adult morality is another matter for another time. That is Forrest Gump level thinking. "Momma always told me life is like a box of chocolates....."
@@cuivre2004 it's called a term of endearment...I called my Tsalagi grandfather Eduda...my children called one grandmother Fred because who knows why and is stuck it was different and she love it.. how sad you have never had a moniker but I can see why now.. let me paraphrase Helen Keller " There is nothing more sad than a man with good vision who refuses to see..smh
Had our club president pass me on the trolling motor and start fishing 30 yards in front me down the same stretch. I found all my fish there the day prior and he didn’t scout at all, he just showed up and fished. I was sooooo pissed I put on the trailer a couple hours later because I was so aggravated I could focus on fishing. Trying to teach myself to not let somthing like that throw my game off and just learn to adapt and over come.
I was fishing from the bank this one time a year or so ago, and these guys in a boat for the college fishing team and these two kids pulled up on me fishing from the bank (while they had a nice bass boat with power poles and everything while I was fishing my old favorite medium heavy and a square bill,) and these kids starting chucking buzzbaits literally over the top of my line. So I just scoffed and packed up and went to a different spot.
I have found fishing etiquette has REALLY taken a nosedive since covid especially...it seems like the lockdowns brought in a whole new crowd (what I call "covid fishermen") and they did not grow up learning fishing/boating etiquette, or even outdoorsman etiquette in general and are genuinely clueless. This video perfectly describes the best way to handle it...if they are far away, I just let it go, but if close I just simply have a conversation...try to educate them without seeming like you are lecturing.
Was just saying the same thing. But I luv seeing ppl find out how amazing bass fishing is. A feel like when I run into that situation try to be polite and there usually appreciative. Have had 2 not be very nice. But we’re all in it together.
I'm strictly a shore angler. I have never been in a position to buy a boat and probably never will. I'm 63 and have been bass fishing since I was 14 years old. I didn't get serious about it until a Hawaiian gentleman took me under his wing when I was18. He taught me fishing techniques and etiquette. First thing he taught me was never step into someone's spot. Give them at least a 40 to 50 yards fan cast. First come first serve and there are no such thing as reservations. Some many people have favorite spots but they don't own the lake. In the past most people were very polite and respectful. Not anymore. They will step right on top of you, especially if you catch fish. And age doesn't matter anymore. I've had teenagers and old geezers such as myself encroach on me. Also boat anglers are very disrespectful to shore anglers. They will attack your area from off shore and move in. All in all we live in a world where entitlement runs rampant. I have been shocked that older adults are getting the same way. I don't see any cure for it. The good old days are gone and I fear will never return. What can you do but remain calm and try to enjoy your outing.
I was fishing Lake Toho in May this year with my grandson and Jordan Lee pulls up and starts fishing about 50yds from us. Close enough to where we could hear him talk to the camera man on the boat. We're like hello Jordan...Lake Toho is over 22,000 acres and here you are... Not gonna like were honestly kinda honored that he thought the spot we were fishing was a good one. And it was actually. We caught several 4 and 5 pounders. Never saw him catch anything.
Love this video. I grew up fishing both shore and boat fishing and learned etiquette from my father. Sometimes i have to remind myself that people who act horribly on the water most likely didnt have someone show them a better way. And a lot of the younger social media fishing channels use those confrontations for clickbait instead of a learning moment. Keep up the great content Brian!
@@urgoonline2804 I thank God everyday for my Dad who instilled in me a love of fishing, as well as miss my Dad each day. Old school veteran gentleman always.He went out his way to help everyone especially on the water...I can still hear his laugh when I called him at his shop as I had hooked a very angry pelican by accident . The beast was beating me with his wings and trying to swallow my head of course Dad had to put me on speaker phone. I got a bunch of senior citizen men who help raise me give opinions...I finally got the beast unhooked to which it did what came naturally all over the bow of my yak..they still tell me about this 8 years later
Yeah,i straight up cussed some kayakers one time when i was fishin from the bank(before i got my own kayak) because he was repeatedly pardling through my casting radius...it would still make me mad today
Just last week my 4yo daughter and I were shore fishing sitting on a milk crate and some jackass and his teenage son came and stood to my right 2' away and 2' in front of us to the point where I couldn't cast upstream without hitting him with my rod and having our lines tangled. "Sir are you really going to fish there?" "Well this is where the fish usually are." "Don't you think you're kind of crowding us in here?. He walked away without saying anything. Never in my 30+ years fishing have I experienced this especially from a "grown" ass man.
When I started watching you, I knew you were a bright light. Now I see why. It is so rare to see maturity and conflict resolution skills in a young person who has the role and status power that you have achieved. Thank you a million for sharing your light. Also I can tell you that watching your videos for the last 5 years I am finally catching the biggest fish of my life! (kayak fisher, 57 years old!)
People thinking they have rights to spots. I had a situation a guy was leaving a creek that we were coming in to fish. He said we muddied up the creek that he was literally leaving its truly mind blowing to me. On the River the fish are only in so many locations and people try to bully people out of areas and its really amazing people expect you to lay down in a tournament just because they stake claim to a place.
I had a guy try to fight me during a kid’s tournament. We went into a mouth of a creek that was 1.5 mile creek and the mouth is around 450 yards wide and maybe 900 yards deep before the creek. The kids were fishing the east side of the cove and we were working north to the creek. Another fisherman was in the creek with a Jon boat and fisherman jacka$$ came and poled down 20 feet from the creek fisherman. They said something and the Jon boat went into the creek. So my kids and I were fishing working north while jacka$$ was working his way south out to the main lake. We got to a point where we were directly lined up but still 150-200yards away from eachother in the water. My son’s partner caught a nice 4lb lmb. This guy big motors up to us and demands the fish that’s his cause we’re in his kids spot.. I laugh cause I thought he was joking and thanked him for screwing the spot running his motor. Ol boy got pissed and started running his mouth on how he will kick the sh!t out of me infront of my kids… i calmly asked him if this is how he wants to this to end while resting my forearm on my holstered pistol.. He hauled it out of there but noticed the Jon boat was beached. We made our way over to check on him when he said called the cops on jackass for threatening him over the spot.. that guy was picking on an elderly man fishing for crappie and red ears.
To each their own. I hit people up. If I’m there first, I let em know that I’m fishing here. If they are there first, I just leave. Some people may not know or think of etiquette. You’re setting yourself up for disappointing if you have expectations of anyone. Especially expecting courtesy or a conscious
honestly, ive been on the water plenty of times and people have blatantly cut me off, pulled up right beside me, flew past me not even 100 feet away from me. all of this sounds good but i started matching these a holes energy. you wanna get disrespectful? ill get disrespectful. eye for an eye. being the nice guy gets you nowhere anymore. these new fisherman these days think they can do whatever they want.
I’ve always thought of B Lat as one of the classes anglers on UA-cam. I have now come to the conclusion he IS💯 the classiest most real angler on UA-cam . Refreshing change from the normal how to type videos! Really liked all the points touched on and came away with a lot of insight 🫡
I’m just drooling over the rods and tackle 🤤 Had to rewind and listen again. The light , quick conversation really works. Then just move on and go fishing.
Always try to keep these types of interactions light hearted. Start up a genuine conversation…ask questions about what they’re fishing for and their rod/reel/lure setup. Consider telling a sincere and convincing story that allows them to reflect and decide for themselves they should leave…offer some genuine advice on locations of other good nearby fishing spots. If all this fails, be willing to negotiate…sometimes all it takes is a beer.
you nailed it BLat! 100% fishing etiquette is lost on lots of people, almost like they are here second, they want you to move, we move on and hit that spot later
Respect has gone with the tides, I have had both kayaks and boaters alike, my feelings are treat them as you would want to be treated , and if they cross that boundary bless them and bid them a good day. You do the right thing hopefully it will rub off on them
You’re right about thinking before you speak . And the did your mean to? That is smart ..best way is to culminate nice at first . I’ve and many had some rude things happen ..but how you handle it shows character ! Keep being a class act and best of luck fishing B LAT!
A good attitude goes a long way. The other day, I saw a point I wanted to fish. A boat was 100 yards away and pointed the opposite direction. He had a fish on and the wind blew him that way while he was landing it. He turned around and saw me and kindly explained his situation. I just motored to a different spot. He swung by later and thanked me.
If you’re on the water you will run into these situations, I’ve been in multiple situations like this and it’s just not worth the hassle. The lake is big enough that you can always find another spot . I’m just out trying to enjoy my time on the water and nothing will ruin your day like confrontation with someone. I think it’s best to just turn away to find another spot to fish .
Manners and respect have surely fallen away in many grown people, but when did fishing become so important that it's worth being angry about?,,..I can't honestly say I've ever had a bad day fishing. I can't say anyone has ever ruined it for me.
For tackle storage solutions focused on fishing ponds, I’ve been using a backpack with four 3600 size boxes with hard baits, one 3700 size box for all of my soft baits, and two 3400 size boxes for all of my terminal tackle (hooks, jigs, weights etc). It’s a bit hefty, but it encompasses everything from ultralight to bait finesse to Texas rigs and everything in between. As long as you invest in a high quality backpack, it’s very doable, even for several hours at a time. Down sizing to something like a Plano sling pack with two 3600 size boxes and room for soft baits and terminal in additional pockets can work well also, especially if you plan on fishing for long periods of time. Hope this helps!
Its simple. Do the right thing regardless of what other people do and carry on. Its not worth nonsense in most cases. Be safe, be kind. Unfortunately alot of people in this new crowded environment simply have not been taught boat and fishing etiquette
Whatever it is, no stranger is worth getting you upset. I had a situation where i fished a narrow cove (120 ft wide if that) was coming out trolling on one side and someone who was coming in started casting right at my boat. I just looked, smiled and said good luck. No use in yelling, getting upset and putting me in a bad mood at the next spot.
I hold permits for and carry 90' net in boat at all times. Works like a charm as a barrier against jetskis and great for annoying pricks on lake. Cheers from Europe's Alaska.
Tournament or not if its a public lake, and someone else is fishing an area that you "WANT" to fish and they were were there first, then your choice is to fish behind them, fish somewhere else. Or dont fish there at all, just because your a "PRO" DOESN'T GIVE YOU ANY SPECIAL PRIVILEGE .
So, I agree with you Brian 100%. But I do have fun with the shoreline Karen’s. When they start screaming, I reply to them with sign language (not the middle finger) but in sign language words. They typically walk away, but when I’m done fishing their dock; I say Thank you verbally! The look on their face is priceless!
Bank guy here, when a boater encroachs the spot I'm fishing my 1st thought is to grab my punch rig and bounce the 1oz tungsten weight off their boat lol like bro you have the whole lake lol is what it is though 😅😅
IMHO, either don't say anything OR if you do...go in very soft. I understand the advice of trying to determine if it is a mis-understanding/mistake or on purpose, but "Did you mean to cut me off", will get a negative reaction 9 time out of 10. Maybe that depends on the lake and the region of the country. I just say "how's it going?". Then someone has a chance to think, did I do something wrong? If it wasn't a mistake or mis-understand, its a lost cause. Also, my advice to people who make a living on the water....don't tell people what you want. Ask and ask really nicely. If you take your ego or entitlement out of it, your odd of getting what you want are much higher. If a guy is guiding or fishing a big tournament and asks nicely, I (and a lot of other people) like to help people out. That said, there is nothing more annoying than a tournament angler jumping my hole because he thinks what he is doing is inherently more important than my fishing.
Good video. This conversation transcends fishing and is important across all aspects of life. I’m old enough now to realize that there’s almost nothing worth fighting for other than your life or the life of your family. As we witness the deterioration of our society, we see people that have no other mode than constant “fight on.” They drive aggressive, they will cut you off in a line somewhere or jump in a parking spot you were waiting for, etc. etc. Of course that type of behavior is aggravating and can make you mad, but if you’re honest with yourself, you’re not going to be thinking about it five mins after it occurred UNLESS YOU CHOSE THE WRONG RESPONSE. Let it go….
When your on the water, you are at the mercy of the other boater's actions. I've had a boat that cut in front of where I was trolling. He was crappie fishing, so he anchored in front of me. I didn't say a word and went around him.
It’s getting bad out there but I will say (at risk of being roasted) if there is a tournament going on and I’m fishing I stop caring about getting in close to people. You guys all decided hundreds of you would be on the same lake at the same time getting in all the good spots and expect us to just be okay with you rolling right up on us at freeway speeds but throw a fit when we go do the same. News flash-no one but you cares about your tournament and it’s just annoying to everyone using the lake. If you don’t have a 100k boat seems like tournament anglers have zero respect for the average angler
My man Brian Latimer is always making sure that nobody gets in trouble. I mean check out the Scott Martin reel while he was fishing down in Florida? A freaking dude might have pulled a pistol on him... I hear ya man. Take care and I'll be pulling for ya in your next tournament brother.
I bought a full reflective face mask to cover my expressions …i cant hide my emotions so when they cant read me and i don’t say anything they usually go away.
I'm in florida and people know we all carry express semi auto hole punchers down here. I've gotten more grief from gators stalking for hours and hours and hours. Unless you haul ass to the other side of the lake you can't lose them and they'll blow out every spot you stop at all day long.
A boat was fishing in an aera for shore fishermen, and so I moved. Then they cut in front of me at a new spot, and then they ran there, trolling moter into the ground. I hollered and said, "Now that's funny."
So as a kayak tournament angler I try and go with the flo, if it’s a jet skier or pontoon I just chalk it up to the game, if it’s a actual fisherman that cuts me off I just get up close to em and start asking if they have any corn then just go on about carp till they look at me like I’m crazy till they leave 😂
Great advice, and you're right to say that it's much easier to think of the right response when the situation os not happening, but it is much better to avoid conflict if possible, not worth it.
On the CA delta the googans are thick and the best practice is to find somewhere else. With fisherman come up on me or vice versa I usually just head over the bank on the other side till we pass.
Fish the James river downtown Richmond area a lot. It will definitely test you on this subject. Best advice for a rough place is to keep your mouth shut-it ain't worth it. Like the old saying goes "If you're gonna be dumb you better be tough".
I usually offer up a few impolite hand gestures or start casting as close to them as possible. I am bank fishing though, which makes it much more infuriating to have people who can access the entire lake decide they need to run up on your spot...
San Diego is notorious for A holes cutting off others. I usually use giant square bills. Most people dropshot the piss outta the lake. I just speed up my retrieve and pull em out right in front of them. Then work the bank around them and smile. The reaction to the situation is their problem now 😉😂
I am always verbally non confrontational when someone slides right in on top of me , i will calmly let them know that i have taken issue with their actions , and leave , but there has been a couple of times that someone has been a complete ass , and I have left in a childlike manner , power up and run right through where they are heading , turn around and power back through .
How to deal with deadbait fisherman having line out on a popular spot like a smaller lake bridge? Because they think by throwing there line out the whole bridge is owned by them and if they see a lure fisherman come up making a few cast here and there they start screaming i'm fishing here yada yada...............
Brian, your advice might work on fresh water, but not on the salt....lol. In Galveston, when a pot licker moves in on you, it's a wonder that guns have not been drawn yet. Especially if the encroached upon is a guide with a party. I've heard words that I had to go look up on Google.....🤣🤣🤣
I find interesting how you will see many posting videos fishing around docks and tell the land owners that they "do not own the water". Yet those same guys will get upset when someone pulls in front of them 30 yards away and yell "you are in my spot". Etiquette has many different definitions across all fishermen. I have seen guys yelling at someone 100 yards away. I have seen tournament guys pull within casting distance and not state a thing. I have seen guys troll over shore fishermen lines. My question to you is what happens when your intentions is the same and there are fish there?
What gets me is when I'm fishing in a small creek/River and a boat is coming by me they slow down, not to an idle, but quarter throttle and their bow in the air. Or they slow down just in front of me. They actually think they are doing me a favor. I just smile and wave. the wake would have been smaller if they kept going. This happens in fresh and saltwater.
As a kayaker and I'm sure others have had the same experience, but damn do those boats wake the hell outta me when I'm in a good spot they wanted. It's hard to not get too heated.
Nothing worse than some terd creeping up on you when you're finishing! That drives me more crazy than anything! Especially for me being in a kayak, if a bigger boat sees me catching fish, they have no problem coming up & fishing right on top of you? I stay away from everyone. Even if their on the spot I was headed to. I will go elsewhere then come back to spot later.
It’s the same as drivers that seem to be entitled to owning the road, tailgating to intimidate you even if you’re in the right lane doing 10 over …. Some.. not the majority of Americans, have lost integrity,some have never had it.And don’t give a damn.No care or compassion for anyone other than their clan.Intelligence,or lack there of, shows in many ways.Even on the water….. Think about it… when did this trend start.. I know the honest answer……..
I chew tobacco, I always ask my boater if they don't mind. And if I do accidentally get some spit on the boat, I immediately stop and wash it off. Also I am as quiet as a field mouse on the back of the boat.
I had a fishing partner cast behind me, across my line, pull right up.on other fisherman, run threw a duck decoy set up. I just stop fishing. Put my rod down in the boat and cross my arms. I make it clear to the other around me Im.not part of this idiocy.
man, forget the first one, the first five things that come to my mind to do or say are the wrong answer haha which is why my goal is always to not react at all.
For the love of headphone users please don’t put the mic in the box of plastic wrapped rods 😂 This video is full of very relevant points, sometimes I have to check myself, especially around surf boats.
Do NOT talk or get involved with people who showing you BAD habits. Because they have n't got any other habits to offer YOU. There is so much water in the lake,...go ELSEWHERE 😅😅😬 there is always another fish to be caught 😊😊 Stop talking,Start going somewhere else 😂
I love fishing. If i see someone head my way and i am on a hot spot . I will give it up and come back a later time . For one i dont want to show them ( if i am in a tournament) how i am catching the fish . If they figure it out more power to them. I was fishing a small point this past spring and it was loaded . A kayaker came by me . He was fishing a tournament. I was not . I gave him the point because it was the right thing to do. A few hours later i found another spot that was better than the point . Nobody owns the water. And how we handle ourself is what is most important. And yes there is rude poeple on the water . I am not going to let one of them ruin my day on the water . I dont get many anyway.
I had someone drive right to the spot I was fishing and catching this past weekend. I still came up with 21 lbs and the win so it all worked out. This is Brian Barde and I will be making more of those7 fr MH Fast rods. Ping me if you want details.
There are too many crazies out there. It's hard to not just react. Best thing is ignore it if possible. As far as the co is concerned if he's that inconsiderate call the tournament director and tell him where you left him on the bank...lol
THE 3 C'S. CURIOSITY COMMON-SENSE CONSIDERATION TO YOU FELLOW MAN IT IS LIKE WORLD RULES IN POOL NEVER DISRESPECT THE SPIRT OF THE CAME OR SPORT BUT NOW IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY GREED.
If no one else has said it, your instructions apply to life situations as well as fishing. well done
As a kayak angler, I have never encountered as many scary, big, entitled boaters in my life in no wake zones turning me into a human surfboard.You can't fix stupid! I just try to get away when anyone gets close. It's not worth the aggravation. I was thrown into a boat dock had my head split open throw against rocks,and my trolling motor was hung in huge rocks.the boater made a second pass a waved as I screamed Im bleeding ..I was shot yes shot at on a public lake by a homeowner who lived on the lake..I did call the police..and about 6 months later it happened again to another female kayak angler...I was at high-bridge a slow no wake zone draw bridge in flagler florida was dropped in the drink by a huge bayliner, but a very kind sailboater fished me out gathered my gear wrapped me in a blanket and fixed me a cup of coffee.Thanks Captain Bill.For the most part there are good kind sober boaters...its the one percent that are rude and careless ⛵️🚤🛥
A lake near my home is popular for fisherman, kayakers, and pleasure boaters. It gets pretty rough with boat wake and wind waves. Never fails, someone in a kayak gets killed every year because people don’t grasp that you can’t see what’s in the trough of a wave.
Even if there is no wake zone it would be a good idea to slow down if some one comes up on a kayak are a canoe 🤠
So had an experience I didn’t expect earlier this year. Had the privilege to be a boat official at an elite event. I was in a boat with an angler and it had been a real struggle that day for him. He made a run to a new area he pre-fished and started down a bank. Short time in the pocket and a well known angler entered to our starboard side which was the direction we were headed. The guy I was with, just lifted his trolling motor and went to another area. No conflict. I was proud of how he handled himself especially considering how the day was going. He commented when it happened under his voice but did the right thing. He wasn’t catching anything so took the high road.
I recently got into fishing at the ripe old age of 40 and just wanted to say I've very much enjoyed watching your videos. Wishing you and your beautiful family all the best!
Papaw used to say “ALWAYS ALWAYS - you always take the high road, you won’t ever regret it. So - for me - just go somewhere else.
You keep doing you - I’ll follow this rule. Thanks.
Maybe when you grow up, you will learn how to use the proper term- "GRANDFATHER". Toddlers who can't speak use those silly nicknames. We teach toddlers how to speak- not the other way around.
@@cuivre2004That’s all you took away from his comment? That he chooses to call his grandfather “Paw Paw”? Not that he has a very reasonable perspective on rude boaters?
@@spintowinstradic6067 Him being told how to think from someone else, vs his own adult morality is another matter for another time. That is Forrest Gump level thinking. "Momma always told me life is like a box of chocolates....."
@@cuivre2004 it's called a term of endearment...I called my Tsalagi grandfather Eduda...my children called one grandmother Fred because who knows why and is stuck it was different and she love it.. how sad you have never had a moniker but I can see why now.. let me paraphrase Helen Keller " There is nothing more sad than a man with good vision who refuses to see..smh
@@cuivre2004 I’m sure you’re loads of fun at parties smh
Had our club president pass me on the trolling motor and start fishing 30 yards in front me down the same stretch. I found all my fish there the day prior and he didn’t scout at all, he just showed up and fished. I was sooooo pissed I put on the trailer a couple hours later because I was so aggravated I could focus on fishing. Trying to teach myself to not let somthing like that throw my game off and just learn to adapt and over come.
I was fishing from the bank this one time a year or so ago, and these guys in a boat for the college fishing team and these two kids pulled up on me fishing from the bank (while they had a nice bass boat with power poles and everything while I was fishing my old favorite medium heavy and a square bill,) and these kids starting chucking buzzbaits literally over the top of my line. So I just scoffed and packed up and went to a different spot.
I have found fishing etiquette has REALLY taken a nosedive since covid especially...it seems like the lockdowns brought in a whole new crowd (what I call "covid fishermen") and they did not grow up learning fishing/boating etiquette, or even outdoorsman etiquette in general and are genuinely clueless. This video perfectly describes the best way to handle it...if they are far away, I just let it go, but if close I just simply have a conversation...try to educate them without seeming like you are lecturing.
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Was just saying the same thing. But I luv seeing ppl find out how amazing bass fishing is. A feel like when I run into that situation try to be polite and there usually appreciative. Have had 2 not be very nice. But we’re all in it together.
I'm strictly a shore angler. I have never been in a position to buy a boat and probably never will. I'm 63 and have been bass fishing since I was 14 years old. I didn't get serious about it until a Hawaiian gentleman took me under his wing when I was18. He taught me fishing techniques and etiquette. First thing he taught me was never step into someone's spot. Give them at least a 40 to 50 yards fan cast. First come first serve and there are no such thing as reservations. Some many people have favorite spots but they don't own the lake. In the past most people were very polite and respectful. Not anymore. They will step right on top of you, especially if you catch fish. And age doesn't matter anymore. I've had teenagers and old geezers such as myself encroach on me. Also boat anglers are very disrespectful to shore anglers. They will attack your area from off shore and move in. All in all we live in a world where entitlement runs rampant. I have been shocked that older adults are getting the same way. I don't see any cure for it. The good old days are gone and I fear will never return. What can you do but remain calm and try to enjoy your outing.
I was fishing Lake Toho in May this year with my grandson and Jordan Lee pulls up and starts fishing about 50yds from us. Close enough to where we could hear him talk to the camera man on the boat. We're like hello Jordan...Lake Toho is over 22,000 acres and here you are... Not gonna like were honestly kinda honored that he thought the spot we were fishing was a good one. And it was actually. We caught several 4 and 5 pounders. Never saw him catch anything.
Love this video. I grew up fishing both shore and boat fishing and learned etiquette from my father. Sometimes i have to remind myself that people who act horribly on the water most likely didnt have someone show them a better way. And a lot of the younger social media fishing channels use those confrontations for clickbait instead of a learning moment. Keep up the great content Brian!
@@urgoonline2804 I thank God everyday for my Dad who instilled in me a love of fishing, as well as miss my Dad each day. Old school veteran gentleman always.He went out his way to help everyone especially on the water...I can still hear his laugh when I called him at his shop as I had hooked a very angry pelican by accident . The beast was beating me with his wings and trying to swallow my head of course Dad had to put me on speaker phone. I got a bunch of senior citizen men who help raise me give opinions...I finally got the beast unhooked to which it did what came naturally all over the bow of my yak..they still tell me about this 8 years later
Yeah,i straight up cussed some kayakers one time when i was fishin from the bank(before i got my own kayak) because he was repeatedly pardling through my casting radius...it would still make me mad today
Just last week my 4yo daughter and I were shore fishing sitting on a milk crate and some jackass and his teenage son came and stood to my right 2' away and 2' in front of us to the point where I couldn't cast upstream without hitting him with my rod and having our lines tangled. "Sir are you really going to fish there?" "Well this is where the fish usually are." "Don't you think you're kind of crowding us in here?. He walked away without saying anything. Never in my 30+ years fishing have I experienced this especially from a "grown" ass man.
When I started watching you, I knew you were a bright light. Now I see why. It is so rare to see maturity and conflict resolution skills in a young person who has the role and status power that you have achieved. Thank you a million for sharing your light. Also I can tell you that watching your videos for the last 5 years I am finally catching the biggest fish of my life! (kayak fisher, 57 years old!)
People thinking they have rights to spots. I had a situation a guy was leaving a creek that we were coming in to fish. He said we muddied up the creek that he was literally leaving its truly mind blowing to me. On the River the fish are only in so many locations and people try to bully people out of areas and its really amazing people expect you to lay down in a tournament just because they stake claim to a place.
I had a guy try to fight me during a kid’s tournament.
We went into a mouth of a creek that was 1.5 mile creek and the mouth is around 450 yards wide and maybe 900 yards deep before the creek.
The kids were fishing the east side of the cove and we were working north to the creek. Another fisherman was in the creek with a Jon boat and fisherman jacka$$ came and poled down 20 feet from the creek fisherman. They said something and the Jon boat went into the creek.
So my kids and I were fishing working north while jacka$$ was working his way south out to the main lake. We got to a point where we were directly lined up but still 150-200yards away from eachother in the water. My son’s partner caught a nice 4lb lmb.
This guy big motors up to us and demands the fish that’s his cause we’re in his kids spot.. I laugh cause I thought he was joking and thanked him for screwing the spot running his motor.
Ol boy got pissed and started running his mouth on how he will kick the sh!t out of me infront of my kids… i calmly asked him if this is how he wants to this to end while resting my forearm on my holstered pistol..
He hauled it out of there but noticed the Jon boat was beached. We made our way over to check on him when he said called the cops on jackass for threatening him over the spot..
that guy was picking on an elderly man fishing for crappie and red ears.
To each their own. I hit people up. If I’m there first, I let em know that I’m fishing here. If they are there first, I just leave. Some people may not know or think of etiquette. You’re setting yourself up for disappointing if you have expectations of anyone. Especially expecting courtesy or a conscious
honestly, ive been on the water plenty of times and people have blatantly cut me off, pulled up right beside me, flew past me not even 100 feet away from me. all of this sounds good but i started matching these a holes energy. you wanna get disrespectful? ill get disrespectful. eye for an eye. being the nice guy gets you nowhere anymore. these new fisherman these days think they can do whatever they want.
I’ve always thought of B Lat as one of the classes anglers on UA-cam. I have now come to the conclusion he IS💯 the classiest most real angler on UA-cam . Refreshing change from the normal how to type videos! Really liked all the points touched on and came away with a lot of insight 🫡
Bro, what is the deal with all those bundled rods?
I’m just drooling over the rods and tackle 🤤 Had to rewind and listen again. The light , quick conversation really works. Then just move on and go fishing.
You go full zaldian and threaten to go to his place of work and start throwing a temper tantrum! 😂
Lets turn bass fishing into a full contact sport! Rods down gloves up haha
racist !!!!! bass racist!!!!
@@ChiChi-r4o ?
That vette in your profile looks nice man!
Always try to keep these types of interactions light hearted. Start up a genuine conversation…ask questions about what they’re fishing for and their rod/reel/lure setup. Consider telling a sincere and convincing story that allows them to reflect and decide for themselves they should leave…offer some genuine advice on locations of other good nearby fishing spots. If all this fails, be willing to negotiate…sometimes all it takes is a beer.
you nailed it BLat! 100% fishing etiquette is lost on lots of people, almost like they are here second, they want you to move, we move on and hit that spot later
Respect has gone with the tides, I have had both kayaks and boaters alike, my feelings are treat them as you would want to be treated , and if they cross that boundary bless them and bid them a good day. You do the right thing hopefully it will rub off on them
You’re right about thinking before you speak . And the did your mean to? That is smart ..best way is to culminate nice at first . I’ve and many had some rude things happen ..but how you handle it shows character ! Keep being a class act and best of luck fishing B LAT!
This post is right on time. I had a lil situation this weekend 😂
A good attitude goes a long way. The other day, I saw a point I wanted to fish. A boat was 100 yards away and pointed the opposite direction. He had a fish on and the wind blew him that way while he was landing it. He turned around and saw me and kindly explained his situation. I just motored to a different spot. He swung by later and thanked me.
If you’re on the water you will run into these situations, I’ve been in multiple situations like this and it’s just not worth the hassle. The lake is big enough that you can always find another spot . I’m just out trying to enjoy my time on the water and nothing will ruin your day like confrontation with someone. I think it’s best to just turn away to find another spot to fish .
Manners and respect have surely fallen away in many grown people, but when did fishing become so important that it's worth being angry about?,,..I can't honestly say I've ever had a bad day fishing. I can't say anyone has ever ruined it for me.
I’ve golfed and fished most my life. I’m 31 and i feel like etiquette in everything is just lost. People seem so different nowadays it’s sad.
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Its simple. Do the right thing regardless of what other people do and carry on. Its not worth nonsense in most cases. Be safe, be kind. Unfortunately alot of people in this new crowded environment simply have not been taught boat and fishing etiquette
Whatever it is, no stranger is worth getting you upset.
I had a situation where i fished a narrow cove (120 ft wide if that) was coming out trolling on one side and someone who was coming in started casting right at my boat. I just looked, smiled and said good luck. No use in yelling, getting upset and putting me in a bad mood at the next spot.
Nice. Now we all know how to have an on the water deck to deck conversation with BLat, just hole jump him.😂
I hold permits for and carry 90' net in boat at all times. Works like a charm as a barrier against jetskis and great for annoying pricks on lake.
Cheers from Europe's Alaska.
Tournament or not if its a public lake, and someone else is fishing an area that you "WANT" to fish and they were were there first, then your choice is to fish behind them, fish somewhere else. Or dont fish there at all, just because your a "PRO" DOESN'T GIVE YOU ANY SPECIAL PRIVILEGE .
Words of a man of honor and wisdom
So, I agree with you Brian 100%. But I do have fun with the shoreline Karen’s. When they start screaming, I reply to them with sign language (not the middle finger) but in sign language words. They typically walk away, but when I’m done fishing their dock; I say Thank you verbally! The look on their face is priceless!
Bank guy here, when a boater encroachs the spot I'm fishing my 1st thought is to grab my punch rig and bounce the 1oz tungsten weight off their boat lol like bro you have the whole lake lol is what it is though 😅😅
IMHO, either don't say anything OR if you do...go in very soft. I understand the advice of trying to determine if it is a mis-understanding/mistake or on purpose, but "Did you mean to cut me off", will get a negative reaction 9 time out of 10. Maybe that depends on the lake and the region of the country. I just say "how's it going?". Then someone has a chance to think, did I do something wrong? If it wasn't a mistake or mis-understand, its a lost cause. Also, my advice to people who make a living on the water....don't tell people what you want. Ask and ask really nicely. If you take your ego or entitlement out of it, your odd of getting what you want are much higher. If a guy is guiding or fishing a big tournament and asks nicely, I (and a lot of other people) like to help people out. That said, there is nothing more annoying than a tournament angler jumping my hole because he thinks what he is doing is inherently more important than my fishing.
As for recreational boaters... casting a giant swimbait or glide bait usually gets the point across 😮
Good video. This conversation transcends fishing and is important across all aspects of life. I’m old enough now to realize that there’s almost nothing worth fighting for other than your life or the life of your family. As we witness the deterioration of our society, we see people that have no other mode than constant “fight on.” They drive aggressive, they will cut you off in a line somewhere or jump in a parking spot you were waiting for, etc. etc. Of course that type of behavior is aggravating and can make you mad, but if you’re honest with yourself, you’re not going to be thinking about it five mins after it occurred UNLESS YOU CHOSE THE WRONG RESPONSE. Let it go….
When your on the water, you are at the mercy of the other boater's actions. I've had a boat that cut in front of where I was trolling. He was crappie fishing, so he anchored in front of me. I didn't say a word and went around him.
Excellent video, and advice. Man I gotta ask, what is the blinky flashy thing on the back of your cap?
It’s getting bad out there but I will say (at risk of being roasted) if there is a tournament going on and I’m fishing I stop caring about getting in close to people. You guys all decided hundreds of you would be on the same lake at the same time getting in all the good spots and expect us to just be okay with you rolling right up on us at freeway speeds but throw a fit when we go do the same. News flash-no one but you cares about your tournament and it’s just annoying to everyone using the lake. If you don’t have a 100k boat seems like tournament anglers have zero respect for the average angler
Can't win if someone wants to be difficult. we can try to argue and winning just means someone is going to get hurt.
My man Brian Latimer is always making sure that nobody gets in trouble. I mean check out the Scott Martin reel while he was fishing down in Florida? A freaking dude might have pulled a pistol on him... I hear ya man. Take care and I'll be pulling for ya in your next tournament brother.
I bought a full reflective face mask to cover my expressions …i cant hide my emotions so when they cant read me and i don’t say anything they usually go away.
Dang bro let me get some of them rods 😂😂
Just stumbled on this video. Liked Brian immediately when he was talking etiquette and "what would you do? Subbed
I'm in florida and people know we all carry express semi auto hole punchers down here. I've gotten more grief from gators stalking for hours and hours and hours. Unless you haul ass to the other side of the lake you can't lose them and they'll blow out every spot you stop at all day long.
A boat was fishing in an aera for shore fishermen, and so I moved. Then they cut in front of me at a new spot, and then they ran there, trolling moter into the ground. I hollered and said, "Now that's funny."
So as a kayak tournament angler I try and go with the flo, if it’s a jet skier or pontoon I just chalk it up to the game, if it’s a actual fisherman that cuts me off I just get up close to em and start asking if they have any corn then just go on about carp till they look at me like I’m crazy till they leave 😂
I like the Questions strategy.
Great advice, and you're right to say that it's much easier to think of the right response when the situation os not happening, but it is much better to avoid conflict if possible, not worth it.
On the CA delta the googans are thick and the best practice is to find somewhere else. With fisherman come up on me or vice versa I usually just head over the bank on the other side till we pass.
😂 Really CO’s spitting tobacco over the side of the boat??? “Karen’s on the shore…” 😆 yeah that’s a bad one. Dang B-Lat you got a lot of good rods!!!
AKA - Gee and Johnston 🤣😂
the 3rd rod has to be an ultralight spinning setup for bream/panfish! 🎣
Fish the James river downtown Richmond area a lot. It will definitely test you on this subject. Best advice for a rough place is to keep your mouth shut-it ain't worth it. Like the old saying goes "If you're gonna be dumb you better be tough".
I usually offer up a few impolite hand gestures or start casting as close to them as possible. I am bank fishing though, which makes it much more infuriating to have people who can access the entire lake decide they need to run up on your spot...
San Diego is notorious for A holes cutting off others. I usually use giant square bills. Most people dropshot the piss outta the lake. I just speed up my retrieve and pull em out right in front of them. Then work the bank around them and smile. The reaction to the situation is their problem now 😉😂
Whenever you’re fishing in an area for a while and then someone in a boat comes over and gets into your area and anchor down and start fishing
So you're saying the 3/4 ounce jig up against that sparkly boat is the wrong tactic? lol
I am always verbally non confrontational when someone slides right in on top of me , i will calmly let them know that i have taken issue with their actions , and leave , but there has been a couple of times that someone has been a complete ass , and I have left in a childlike manner , power up and run right through where they are heading , turn around and power back through .
How to deal with deadbait fisherman having line out on a popular spot like a smaller lake bridge? Because they think by throwing there line out the whole bridge is owned by them and if they see a lure fisherman come up making a few cast here and there they start screaming i'm fishing here yada yada...............
Brian, your advice might work on fresh water, but not on the salt....lol. In Galveston, when a pot licker moves in on you, it's a wonder that guns have not been drawn yet. Especially if the encroached upon is a guide with a party. I've heard words that I had to go look up on Google.....🤣🤣🤣
I find interesting how you will see many posting videos fishing around docks and tell the land owners that they "do not own the water". Yet those same guys will get upset when someone pulls in front of them 30 yards away and yell "you are in my spot". Etiquette has many different definitions across all fishermen. I have seen guys yelling at someone 100 yards away. I have seen tournament guys pull within casting distance and not state a thing. I have seen guys troll over shore fishermen lines. My question to you is what happens when your intentions is the same and there are fish there?
The dock owner and spot snipe are 2 extremely different scenarios. Dock owners are simply wrong, period. Unless damage happens of course.
Well done Brian
As a kayak fisherman, I've had plenty of boaters creep and snipe. Hilarious 😅😂
What gets me is when I'm fishing in a small creek/River and a boat is coming by me they slow down, not to an idle, but quarter throttle and their bow in the air. Or they slow down just in front of me. They actually think they are doing me a favor. I just smile and wave. the wake would have been smaller if they kept going. This happens in fresh and saltwater.
it's dangerous though to not slow down.
and no one is entitled to not have wake if not a no wake zone
As a kayaker and I'm sure others have had the same experience, but damn do those boats wake the hell outta me when I'm in a good spot they wanted. It's hard to not get too heated.
Nothing worse than some terd creeping up on you when you're finishing! That drives me more crazy than anything! Especially for me being in a kayak, if a bigger boat sees me catching fish, they have no problem coming up & fishing right on top of you? I stay away from everyone. Even if their on the spot I was headed to. I will go elsewhere then come back to spot later.
It’s the same as drivers that seem to be entitled to owning the road, tailgating to intimidate you even if you’re in the right lane doing 10 over …. Some.. not the majority of Americans, have lost integrity,some have never had it.And don’t give a damn.No care or compassion for anyone other than their clan.Intelligence,or lack there of, shows in many ways.Even on the water….. Think about it… when did this trend start.. I know the honest answer……..
I chew tobacco, I always ask my boater if they don't mind. And if I do accidentally get some spit on the boat, I immediately stop and wash it off. Also I am as quiet as a field mouse on the back of the boat.
Lot's of Wisdom, here!
One of the greatest books of all time, "How to Win Friends and Influence People" Dale Carnegie.
love the videos man keep crushing it!
I had a fishing partner cast behind me, across my line, pull right up.on other fisherman, run threw a duck decoy set up. I just stop fishing. Put my rod down in the boat and cross my arms. I make it clear to the other around me Im.not part of this idiocy.
Great advise, Brian. Keep up the excellent videos.
Gotta love those people that fish bent pole patterns. I’m not very fond of them.
man, forget the first one, the first five things that come to my mind to do or say are the wrong answer haha which is why my goal is always to not react at all.
For the love of headphone users please don’t put the mic in the box of plastic wrapped rods 😂 This video is full of very relevant points, sometimes I have to check myself, especially around surf boats.
What you doing with those rods B-Lat
Excellent
Do NOT talk or get involved with people who showing you BAD habits. Because they have n't got any other habits to offer YOU. There is so much water in the lake,...go ELSEWHERE 😅😅😬 there is always another fish to be caught 😊😊 Stop talking,Start going somewhere else 😂
I love fishing. If i see someone head my way and i am on a hot spot . I will give it up and come back a later time . For one i dont want to show them ( if i am in a tournament) how i am catching the fish . If they figure it out more power to them. I was fishing a small point this past spring and it was loaded . A kayaker came by me . He was fishing a tournament. I was not . I gave him the point because it was the right thing to do. A few hours later i found another spot that was better than the point . Nobody owns the water. And how we handle ourself is what is most important. And yes there is rude poeple on the water . I am not going to let one of them ruin my day on the water . I dont get many anyway.
Love this
thought it was gonna be a "male-karen at the boat ramp" type video, stayed for the free therapy
I tried to jump to the section for which punch angle to use and didn't find it.
questions are you shipping those rod back to favorite fishing?
😆 no. To people that bought them
What rods is he using this year knew i saw his video ending relationship with that one company
I had someone drive right to the spot I was fishing and catching this past weekend. I still came up with 21 lbs and the win so it all worked out. This is Brian Barde and I will be making more of those7 fr MH Fast rods. Ping me if you want details.
So when they “fall” overboard spontaneously, don’t react! Got it! 😅
There are too many crazies out there. It's hard to not just react. Best thing is ignore it if possible. As far as the co is concerned if he's that inconsiderate call the tournament director and tell him where you left him on the bank...lol
Maybe you should have sent copy of this to Gee and Johnston Bros....
always on point Sir!
THE 3 C'S. CURIOSITY COMMON-SENSE CONSIDERATION TO YOU FELLOW MAN IT IS LIKE WORLD RULES IN POOL NEVER DISRESPECT THE SPIRT OF THE CAME OR SPORT BUT NOW IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY GREED.
People are drifting away from respect for one another & common sense isn’t so common anymore.