"The nearest Miracle we have before us is that within a few billion years the Universe, through The marvelous laws of chemistry and physics, has converted part of itself into Consciousness and now that Consciousness can contemplate the very universe that begat it."---- Dr. Bernard Oliver, SETI c. 1978 (In Search Of )
I don't know what consciousness is but check out the latest hypothesis on how we developed BIG BRAINS. ___As the largest animals on the landscape disappeared, the scientists propose, human brains had to grow to enable the hunting of smaller, swifter prey.____ ___This hypothesis argues that early humans specialized in taking down the largest animals, such as elephants, which would have provided ample fatty meals. When these animals' numbers declined, humans with bigger brains, who presumably had more brainpower, were better at adapting and capturing smaller prey, which led to better survival for the brainiacs. ____
@@jjac72 Who says they were "created"? It seems the MULTIVERSE and the laws of physics have always been around in some form and we humans just happen to be "lucky" enough to have an evolved brain to ask these questions. 😁
I think the deeper question is, how would our lives change, should we have proof of life on other planets? How would that change our purposes or the way we conduct ourselves? For me personally, I wouldn't change a thing, since I'm already convinced enough there is a lot of life out there, just like there's a lot of everything else.
Rescale the age of the Universe to one year. The last 13,000 years, the time it took us from the last ice age to move from being hunters and farmers to the James Webb telescope, represents 30 seconds in that rescaled year. Let's remain optimistic and think that we won't destroy ourselves. Imagine how much we could achieve, not in 30 seconds but in one minute or one hour for that matter! 120 x 13,000 years. Think of all the planets out there, then think of all the 30 seconds (or one hour) in any day of any month of the rescaled year that would have been enough on any of these planets to become "technically advanced", and yet........ all of a sudden the "Where is everybody" is starting to makes sense.
I think most intelligent civilizations elsewhere if they exist, and I think the universe IS big enough. I really don't think they would destroy them selves, set backs, major population decrease is more likely." Destroying ourselves" is an emotional or political thought.
Kind of like a piece of plywood beeing drug behind a boat.What happens,it flies apart.Free thinking is what gave Newton the theory of gravity.The laws of planetary orbits and the spectrum we know today as light.Its convolessing ideas Johaness Kepler and Niclaùs Copernicus are 2 others that shared ideas as long as they make sense.Necessity is the mother of all invention
The belief that the Earth is flat by flat Earther's is just as hilarious that the Universe is flat by science but yet Earth, flat, aliens, religion, science and even the Universe are concepts but the Uni-verse is eternity(Uni or whole) conceptualizing itself(human verse or human consciousness) to know it exist as its own self proof(Universe) which then repeats or reproduces itself as its own self proof as its own eternal knowledge of itself therefore I always have and I always will rewrite this same exact comment because forever knowledge of itself never changes as forever knowledge of itself, Universe repeats itself because eternity means reproductive state of self knowledge(to self exist and to know I self exist) or eternity(Universe) is the origin story(human conscious knowledge) of itself as eternity(Universe).
@@edpottinger849 Exactly, the concept of a pancake flying through space never goes beyond itself as an image of itself but always absolutely points to this reality itself as the always present moment right now, no matter what you believe in it's always this Universe that your concepts point to, you know that you exist because you exist therefore you exist because you know that you exist which means that you can never escape this present moment right now as the whole Universe itself, space can never be outside itself just as eternity can never be outside eternity. I am the Universe observing myself the Universe. The Universe is an anthropomorphic image of itself, and if you responded to me with sarcasm then I can say I really responded back to you with my own form of sarcasm and if you weren't being sarcastic then I can say I really responded to you without my own form of sarcasm, whatever you desire to first believe but it won't change the fact that you always exist to always know that you exist and that you always have and that you always will respond exactly the same to my comment whether you believe me or whether you believe not to believe me.
Yes another cliffhanger somebody wants to make money off for me. I’m not biting. Personally these so-called UFOs or technologies recorded by the military and others or a smoke screen so the government can justify some coming money expenditure or purely a diversion around a financial crisis in the US of a
Interesting how he put the end and then ...oh goodnight...LOL. LET ME END IT...WELL FACT IS THE DATA CLEARLY SHOWS THERE IS SOME TYPE OF INTELLIGENCE FAR ADVANCED OF ANYTHING WE KNOW OR UNDERSTAND OPERATING ON THIS PLANET. THIS IS INDISPUTABLE AT THIS TIME.
I would have thought that the question is not ‘are we alone in the universe’ ? BUT, is technology able to travel and transport life across vast distances in space, between planets within the galaxy and beyond. Just because life hasn’t reached us does not mean it is not there .
That's correct. There is no way , no way , that our planet posses unique chemical and biological properties in entire galaxy , much less in entire universe. But the question is distances and technology.
There almost certainly is life but even microbial life is made of complex chemistry and needs very precise condition to not only form but continue to exist. With that said if the universe is infinite in size than there most certainly is life out there even if it's only an infinite amount of clones of you and I.
I'm always frustrated with people assuming that human nature, mentality and way of thinking is inherent to every possible intelligent being in the universe. We have no experience in contacts with alien beings, but we still think they should have the same (bloody) history as we do.
@@damyr Angels are literally conquering warriors of God. I get the analogy but most Christians or lay ppl don’t know the true nature of Angels. They’re capable of positive things and negative things.
I actually lost a little respect for Steven Hawking when he said that we (meaning SETI) should ON PURPOSE avoid making contact with aliens and used what happened to less advanced societies on Earth like the Native Americans as an example. That really ticked me off. I wanted him to fully SUPPORT the effort to find life elsewhere.
Multicellular life was not possible until about 600 million years ago. There was not enough oxygen in the atmosphere to energetically support multicellular life (using oxygen metabolism). It took almost 3 billion years for oxygen to accumulation from photosynthesis because the ocean and land were reducing. The world had lots of iron dissolved in the ocean that reacted with the oxygen, rusted, and sank to the bottom. Until oxygen reached about 18%, converting the environment from reducing to oxidative, there wasn't enough free oxygen to power multicellular life and there wasn't enough to form the ozone layer, which allowed the land to be colonized.
Are we alone? Absolutely not Will we ever confirm that? Absolutely not Universe is just waaay too big. And it's getting even bigger every second. Eventually we won't even be able to see stars in the sky. Planets will be there, but stars will be beyond sight. Kinda sad because it means we need to learn whatever we can while it still there.
There are probably billions of life forms “out there”, the distances however, make it highly unlikely that we will make contact anytime soon. Or they have been here since the beginning, running a billion year experiment.
Since we know that life isn't just abundant everywhere in the universe, then we know it may in fact be scarce and rare. It then becomes unrealistic to assume that there are more advanced alien lifeforms than our own that live during our current lifetime, and that are close enough to us to get here, and have the technology to travel here, and the willingness to connect with humankind. It also seems logical that humans would be overly optimistic about alien encounters and fake them for any number of reasons. We may not actually be alone, but we may never know if we are or were alone.
Good points. Besides the impossible distances and the ridiculous energy requirements relating to interstellar travel, the biological aspects are just as important. An alien species is very much a product of their home planet. They would not travel here unless our solar system was an exact replica of their system. The atmosphere (gases and pressure), must be the same. The gravity must be the same. The solar radiation must be the same. They must be able to consume our food. Finally, they have no protection against bacteria and viruses that are unique to our planet. This is mostly academic as biological lifeforms could not survive a 20,000 year transit time. Even the power source for the spacecraft would not last that amount of time. Assuming an alien craft made it to earth, the ship would be a derelict, completely without power or life and would sail right past our planet. Similar to Oumuamua that recently entered and then left our solar system.
When younger and an avid reader of science fiction, I was of the opinion, yes, there was other 'intelligent' life out there! When I read about the Fermi paradox and my opinion started to waiver. Then I came upon a book written by a famous science writer that gave convincing reasons why our planet is unique. That book was Alone In the Universe! So now my opinion about life being numerous has gone from 10 to 1...
I agree about intelligent life. The amount of specific evolutionary steps to get to intelligence that have to occur by chance, all while battling everything the universe is throwing at it is huge. I'm surprised we even exist at times. But I do have hope for microbial life, that can live in some wild places
Brian Cox thinks that microscopic life my be "common" ,but higher evolved life forms, which require large time periods of planet stability,are more than likely rare...who knows.
I just find it very egocentric to think that we’re so special. Our galaxy alone contains over 100 billion stars (possibly up to 400 billion), and we know there are at least 100 billion galaxies. I find it hard to believe that in almost 14 billion years, we are the only complex and “intelligent” life to ever exist in that incomprehensible vastness. I feel our very existence is evidence that complex/intelligent life likely exists or existed elsewhere in the universe.
@@christopherfaulkner5821 Now 2 trillion galaxies,and we have only been scientifically developing for 500 years,And really quite advanced for the last hundred....out of 13.8 or thereabouts billions of years...Took 3B years to form multicellular life here...but it has happened here...I use the word intelligence with " " around it as our lust for material goods,power,religiosity and other more basic primal primate characteristics are still strongly held onto,so much so that we are now in a race to save ourselves from ourselves....how arrogant,simple and shortsighted many,especially in power,are...!
@@christopherfaulkner5821 Indeed. One aspect to the question that many people seem to ignore is that the vastness of space, while contributing to a higher chance of intelligent life developing at multiple locations, is also contributing to the unlikeliness of those different locations to meet each other. Worm-holes an hyperspace are nice for science fiction novels, but in actuality they might be impossible. Who will embark on a one-way voyage that will require either fail-less cryogenic technologies or self-sustaining humongous generational spaceships that are resistant to all cosmic radiation out there? The problem is very difficult, if not impossible, to surmount. Travelling in space, beyond a local destinations like the solar system, is probably just a pipe dream. But hey, we might discover a way... if we survive our own greed that is destroying the only habitat we have. It could be that greed is an inescapable consequence of intelligent life, and this is why we feel we are alone. Maybe all intelligent exo-civilisations succumbed to their greed and basically self-destructed before having the chance to even begin finding a way to travel through the vastness of space.
This is shaped to make you believe there is a conspiracy. Keep in mind that you can find the entire audio and interview. Find it! You’ll see that this has no reason to believe that how he ended this video is what Sam Harris or Neil Degrass Tyson believes.
Its called the basic human condition.. GREED. he didn't do this to give it away for free . If u want to hear more unproven bs you have to go to his podcast.
Hi , MR Harris, and regards to mr Neil Tyson, thanks for your support, the only people who’s able to explain simple science, and change it to smart understanding, to everyone, are scientists and smart philosopher,thanks from both of you.
Surely the answer is probably no, but spacetime is so vast, SO VAST, that we may as well be alone, because, although we may possibly detect signs of life elsewhere in the galaxy (or even the universe), the overwhelming probability is that, even if it is intelligent life, communication, let alone interaction with such a civilisation is impossible. Our shout out: "Hello!" Their reply: (2,000 years later say, that being a very optimistic estimate) "What?" That's some scintillating party we've chat got going.
Where will we be if we don’t blow this planet up in 2000 years in technology. In the last 30 years we have in our hands phones that can do what a man holding a camera, calculator, map book etc etc where he would be to heavy to walk all in a hand held device. In 2000 years we will be traveling to other galaxy’s undetected IMO. There here and the military have stollen there technology. Iv seen shit that no known military flying machine can do. Other intelligent civilisations can be thousands even millions of years ahead of us. Mike needs to look up and open his eyes.
Yes, we are all alone in the universe. The probability of finding intelligent extraterrestrial life or space aliens is virtually zero. This is common sense.
The actual size of the universe is to the knowable universe as the knowable universe is to a Planck in a universe that is a centillion times larger than our own, at the very least I'd say.
Space is soooooooo vast and dark, with exploding balls of fusion from pressures too great to fathom…scattered across the web of space. From our perspective, it’s gorgeous and hopeful…but up close, every single light in the sky, is just death! Be grateful, we are still here, because you say odds are there is life out there, I say odds are, we just got extremely lucky, lucky like winning the lottery everyday for a whole year, lucky.
I'm not really sure what are you trying to say. Those exploding balls of fusion, no matter how deadly they are, are also source of life. And that luck you're talking about, is totally irrelevant, because no one who doesn't exist can feel unlucky. So, from such pov, luck is relative. But generally speaking it's just a colloquial term for simplified explanation of many various different factors (causes and consequences). In scientific terms, luck doesn't exist.
You know I originally deleted this comment to reread yours. But I stand by my original Wow, it's amazing how little you know about space. Unless it's between your ears.
Humans are naive to think that we are the only intelligent life in this neverending universe. Just because we don't have proof doesn't mean we are alone. We are just a spec of dust on a bigger spec of dust named earth, that orbits one Star that is on the outer tail of 1 Galaxy that has 200 billion other stars in it. Which travels through the universe with 2 trillion other galaxies that we can see.
_Humans are naive to think that we are the only intelligent life in this neverending universe._ Humans are naive to think that there is a 'creator' responsible for intelligent life in this neverending universe. Humans are naive to think that there isn't a 'creator' responsible for intelligent life in this neverending universe. I could go on...
_Just because we don't have proof doesn't mean we are alone. _ Just because we don't have proof doesn't mean we are _not_ alone. Nothing naive about that.
These two gentlemen are well educated & they are both good speakers. I have a great deal of respect for them & I am grateful for their contributions to general education. However, when it comes to the question, "Are we alone in the universe?", they know no more about that than any of us(unless there is some kind of conspiracy that they are in on & we aren't 😉).
I won't speak for anyone here but myself, but this is what they know more than I: They seem to know more about our limitations as homo sapiens only 200k yrs into our evolution vs the vastness of space, how small a role intelligence has historically played in our survival, the exponential relevance of time and purpose as parameters in searching our universe, how potentially advanced or primordial life can be if we found it, the elements required to sustain life in other galaxies, how unlikely it is that we'd find life in its replicating state (like Earth existed for 800m years before life existed), how we'd go about exploring other galaxies, and unless we developed a way to travel at or near the speed of light, how long it would take even robotic/unmanned spacecrafts traveling at near-light speeds to reach interstellar destinations, that we'd be dead & gone for a hundred years before we're likely to find a worthy destination. Understanding all the above, I still have hope and a childlike sense of wonder. Just the right place at just the right time in its evolution, we find a planet that supports complex life? It'd be an honor to be alive to see complex life in other galaxies, but I know I'm likely going to be dead many, many years before that happens. In these days of ignorance, political treachery, animosity & violence, it's hard to focus on our greatest minds & bravest explorers. who will hopefully represent the best of us in thousands of year to come. I wonder what someone whose AI finds this post in June 4th, 3022, would appreciate that I was thinking of them today? How far they must have come by then. How I wish I had even a conscious hour to breathe & exist with them. How I hope they still have Stratocasters & how funny my Samsung S21 Ultra phone must seem to them, how slow & hilarious my Subaru WRX would seem, and how hideous my beautiful girlfriend would seem to them. How basic the brilliant Webb Telescope must seem to them now. How all the above (except my girlfriend) might be in a museum.
I believe they've given it much more than the average person they are devoted to what the do, while the average person wants heaven and is superficial and glib
Joe Rogan podcast is a conduit for brilliance (Neil or Brian Cox) or lunacy(Eddie Bravo or Alex Jones). Or WTF like Commander Dave Fravor or Bob Lazar. I think it's a fascinating balance.
@@cardcounter21 Because creation is a universal law. It was there long before we evolved and it will be there long after humankind is gone. Lifeform is part and parcel of the universe. We may never have the evidence because our capabilities are limited.
@@cardcounter21 There is plenty of evidence on this very Globe that we are existing now, that there was microbial life on it long before recognizable life forms evolved. Life forms that we would not have recognized as such were crucial to evolution. How much more evidence do you need?
@@alexgoslar4057 _'...There is plenty of evidence on this very Globe that we are existing now, that there was microbial life on it long before recognizable life forms evolved...'_ Until we find 'evidence' of microbial life on other planets then you are just making an assumption! life evolving on this planet does not automatically mean it has on others! I believe it probably has but I'm not going to jump to any conclusion without at least seeing some kind of evidence!
@@cardcounter21, First of all, there is fossil evidence that microbial life existed on earth millions of years before vertebra came into existence. Secondly, with your logic, that we can only believe what we understand, not too long ago we believed that the earth is flat and that the sun rotates around the earth. What we consider to be evidence is very limited and conditional. Stay well and connected.
Sorry for commenting on an old post... Regarding "year zero" - why do we need it at all? Keep in mind that in some languages (Slavic languages at least) they use ordinal rather than cardinal numerals to denote years. So your "year one" becomes "the first year". This alleviates the need in "year zero". Zero becomes a point/moment of midnight from December 31 of the First Year BCE (actually, the LAST year BCE) into January 1 of the FIRST year CE. So zero becomes a point on the timeline as it actually ought to be. In the same vibe - we have no need for "century zero". We are going directly from the first century BCE to the first century CE with no problem or objection at all.
exactly. People dont really understand how big space is. there are 100s of millions of stars around here, even before you get to Andromeda ... to think theres no life in the billions of other galaxies, or this one, is a failure of comprehension of space
You are just basing that on our technology and perception of time and space. Also they may be too far away but instead come here from other dimensions. Don’t rule those possibilities out.
You could do that, but you'd be missing one of the best listeners and "digesters of information" on the planet. And that's to say nothing of how deep Sam's questions are after analyzing the content of his guests.
I have watched a variety of UA-cam channels on the silence of space. Generally, an average distance between separate but parallel technological civilisations can be considered in the order of 1000 light years. Small enough to enable 100-200 civilisations in our galaxy at any one time but most are too far to even communicate, let alone travel to one another before the inevitable demise diminishes their technological development. If evidence is discovered first hand, it may well be archeological, long dead but preserved in the vacuum of space.
Great talk.I wish people would understand the science behind the question Are we Alone? Its about time and distance not detecting hospitable atmospheres.If there are others out there that are organic which they must be, they cant traverse the distance necessary to reach another habitable planet in their lifetimes.Couple that with the unliklihood that any civilization could exist in exactly the same time frame as we exist without one or the other winking out and you have no shot at a meet and greet.
They Are both extremely smart. But have to admit I think Sam Harris is vastly smarter than Tyson. Maybe not in Astro physics, but I just feel like Neil hasn't ever really said anything profound. Maybe it's just 2 different types of intelligence. But it just seems like Tyson basically just loves science and has a great memory. Like he's more of an encyclopedia of things that he's read or observed or other people have discovered, a Wikipedia of the universe if you will, and Harris is more like the one that thought up and invented the Internet to put the Wikipedia web page on.
Think for a moment...chimps and humans share 98% DNA. We're talking identical DNA! DNA for noses, ears, eyes, hair, bones, etc etc etc! Consider the fact that any two random humans share 99.9% DNA. Everything you see as different (not you) in another random human is in that .1%. I find that incredibly fascinating, and equally disturbing considering our behavior toward one another.
That .01% difference among all of us accounts for a large degree of genetics a tiny fraction of which is even linked to facial features (used for racial classings) you've got to remember the average adult human aged 15 to eighty has trillion of cells all with their own unique DNA structure and comprise our DNA code. So even such a tiny fraction of difference amounts it million of feels with their own DNA structure that makes us all unique, more inside than out .....
Which is more likely, we are alone in the universe, or, Niel degrasse Tyson answering a question without rambling a useless point for 45 minutes first?
Why is the term junk DNA no longer used? Noncoding DNA does not provide instructions for making proteins. Scientists once thought noncoding DNA was “junk,” with no known purpose. However, it is becoming clear that at least some of it is integral to the function of cells, particularly the control of gene activity.Jan 19, 2021
Thanks to Neil for the great conversation and being brave enough to weather the "controversial" Sam. It is in talking about topics with every angle analyzed even the difficult and unpopular ones, that we progress as a society. We/Cancel is hurting us all.
Fucking eh......much work to be done on this ,our and all others only home....It is to be considered sacred,if anything is to be sacred...It is Earth,and life on Earth....Truly like nothing else.
I don't get how you can age the universe. The universe is EVERYTHING. There was never a beginning and there will never be an end therefore there is no age. Maybe we measure how far we can see light but I guarantee there is something beyond that so it's WAAAAYYYY older then we can comprehend.. and then it's WAY older then that because it always was
They have radio carbon dated the stardust too. Stellar evolution has also shown the way, the type of stars we see now are only possible within the predicted age of the universe. In fact ALL experiment models point to the inflationary universe being 13.4 billion years old, maybe slightly older.
Given the vastness of spacetime and the cosmic speed limit of causality, we will almost certainly never encounter or even see signs of other intelligent life. I believe it is out there/was out there/will be out there, but the chances that such a signal should reach Earth while humanity is looking for it is absurdly low to the point of approaching absolute zero. Are we alone? I very much doubt it, but for all practical purposes, we certainly are, and the only future aliens we have any real chance of encountering are variations of ourselves, if we ever manage to get off this planet and become an Interstellar species, at which point we are unlikely to resemble current day humans anymore.
All great scientists think we either are alone or we are very late to the party. I still think there is another civilization out there thriving on the opposite side of the universe
I think we are alone in the WHOLE universe as intelligent life. We have to realise how rare it is for non living matter to become life & then self replicate. Or maybe, just maybe, we are the first. The universe is not that old in the grand scheme of things. Most of life the universe will ever know (if it can) will develop around extremely long lasting stars
How do we realize how rare it is for "living matter to become life" (which is circular logic but I digress)? Rarity implies there is statistical evidence. You would need to make rigorous observations of the galaxy at least in order to make such a claim. Our current technology does not allow us to do so due to the vast distances involved. Your logic is invalid
I've often pondered the question if I would want us to connect with life on another planet. My answer is not really. We can't get over our fear of different looking humans. Aliens would cause a world meltdown.
I hope both of you are correct and the dividing lines we see are a thing of the past at some point. It is also instinctional and part of our dna for survival. I don't know how well aliens would be welcome but I'd be willing to wrong
As a substitute teacher, I had to show one of Neil's videos to a bunch of middle schoolers. The topic? How life was seeded on earth by asteroids. This is the 'science' that leads kids to suicide. Think about: what is life if we are just, in words of atheist comedian George Carlin, "Failed mutations." In fact, Carlin thinks the planet would be better off without people on it. In that same middle school, I found a book called, 'The Darwin Awards.' Kids are actually reading this and it is child abuse. The book details the gruesome deaths of 'stupid' people, people that society is better without! The first chapter was about a woman walking too many dogs. They pulled her into a tree, killing her. The 'joke'? "I guess she was barking up the wrong tree!" Hardee har har. Do people have a brain anymore? Kids read this book and think, "You know, this world would be better off without (mom, dad, 'friend', etc.) in it!" Now, kids are going into their schools and blowing their classmates away. Of course, the evolutionists will swear that their atheistic, situational morality has nothing whatsoever with the amorality of the public schools. The sad tragedy for atheists is that, unless they make things right with God, they will live in their own insanity for all eternity. Do people create their own morals? The torturer in hell will! In fact, Jesus said that those in hell will be tortured. It is not hard to believe, is it? God is justice and take away our courts, police and jails (no matter how imperfect), and life becomes chaos. Yet, Christ died on a Cross so that we can know Him. By the blood of Christ, we can be fit for paradise, where there are no liars or thieves and the weather is always perfect. I hope you get to know Christ. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
Don't be afraid that life is serendipitous. Life began on this planet a few billion years ago and will eventually be destroyed by it's star in another few billion years. What happens in between is simply a meaningless play that distracts us from the inevitable.
The video you had to show the class was on panspermia? If so, your wording above is either dishonest or you didn't care to listen during the video. "How life was seeded on earth by asteroids"...you know panspermia is simply a hypothesis, right? In other words, it's just a possibility. Was the "Darwin Award" book you found provided by the school? Library? Student brought from home? Simply curious. I found your post very saddening. I feel religious beliefs rob people of just how special this experience called life is. You're clearly a Christian, and even referenced hell and torture in your post. Seriously dude? I know you don't realize it, but that was a classic Freudian Slip. YOU are afraid of hell and torture. It's not real though brother. Neither is the hell of Islam, which you're definitely not afraid of. Rhetorical question for you: do you even WANT to know if you're wrong about this? That's for you to answer to yourself, not for me. If the answer is yes, you'll become an atheist 🤣🤣🤣
@@DoubleDoubleWithOnions Hi. Do you know that the universe is billions of years old or is that your religious belief? For example, a Biblical creationist looks at the scientific evidence and says, "The earth is only a few thousand years old." The evolutionist looks at the same evidence and says, "Billions." How do you know that you are right and the creationist is wrong? Do you think that the creationists are not logical in their thinking? That said, how can you test your own logic? Is it not true that to test your own reason, you have to use your own reason? It is an absurdity. Moreover, is it not true that, over the course of your life, you have been wrong about so many things as to lose track? How do you know that you have it right 'this time'? Ever hear the saying, "Burn me once..."? How many times has your own 'logic' burned you, yet you trust your own opinions on eternity as if you were infallible? Jesus said that, in heaven, no one will lie to you, steal from you, or otherwise disrespect you. Doesn't that sound great? Yet, do you see the problem? If you have ever lied, stolen, or disrespected God's wonderful Name, then you are not worthy of paradise. You won't bring the temperature of hell down one degree simply because you don't believe! Unless you make things right with God, through the Cross, by the blood of Christ, then you will be tried and found guilty of being a lying thief and a blasphemer. Jesus said that there will be torture in hell, but God does not have to torture anyone; just imagine life without any jails! In fact, you would be tortured right now were it not for the police (however imperfect they are). No police, no courts, no jails in hell. People can molest you indefinitely. If you want to live by blind, unwarranted faith in you own intellect, you are in for a rude eternity. Yet, if you will admit that you don't know it all, that your confidence that there is no afterlife is totally unfounded, then you can meet Christ. God made you for friendship with Him. If you reject Him, claiming your own wisdom, God will not pull you by the ears into heaven. Just know that, in rejecting God, you are accepting people that love to hurt other people, people who are safely locked away in jails as you read this. They will be free to move around in hell! I would not want to be you if you miss Christ's great love, His death on a Cross so that you can know Him! I hope you will have a good talk with God about this. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
The beaver analogy is Tyson dancing around the question. Simply put Harris was asking about intelligent civilizations roaming the galaxy and Tyson skillfully danced around NOT answering the question.
Intelligent life could be just rare enough that it's impossible to communicate, because each civilization is too far away. In fact, some scientists think we're alone in the observable universe. But if our universe as a whole is infinite or much larger than what we see, then there are other civilizations like us.
@@viezeman "offcourse their are other civilizations" Baseless assumptions like that are just as wrong as saying there aren't any other civilizations out there... We simply don't know, and there are far too many possibilities to start guessing.
It's amazing to me how people can be so sure about what they don't know. Despite the logic and number crunching of Neil and other scientist, I do not believe life is abundant or even exists elsewhere in the Universe. I know that statistically it seems like the Universe should be teeming with life, but until we find other life or at least learn how to create life from scratch, we are alone. Prove otherwise.
I sure agree, Bryan! The simple fact is that the Universe is a brutal place and is extremely hostile to life. Also, the Universe is still really young and it is entirely possible that it would take way, way, longer than 13.8 billion years for life to form and certainly for intelligent life to form- if it forms at all…..
Its on you to prove otherwise. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. It goes both ways. Given that life has been snuffed out 5 times on this planet and came back like a weed everytime, Id say the odds of life on atleast one of trillions of other planets is guranteed
@@MaloPiloto intelligent life appeared here in 1 billion years, not 13.. Life isnt young... theres red dwarfs and nebulas everywhere proving life has had ALot of oppourtunity
The universe is larger than we can understand. We have only put robots on several objects in our own system. Set foot on the moon, and launched probes. We simply don’t have enough data to know how populated the universe is.
If you listen to many Carl Sagan lectures from decades ago, you will recognize many of the concepts "rephrased" by Tyson. You can tell he was a fan of Sagan, as he repeats a lot of the things Sagan said many years ago.
I'd imagine asteriod strikes, solar activity or even sicemic activity happens regular enough to be at least part of the great filter. If a big enough rock is heading your way, there isn't much you can do. And I think that expecting to have come across life after only discovering 4000 exo planets just sensationalism. Trillions of worlds, and were the only ones?
Skipped over everything Neil Tyson said that was rehearsed content that he goes to in every single show he’s been on for the last 10 years.. Thus I heard only Sam Harris speak in this entire podcast.
The Vastness of space/time that makes the Drake Equation almost inevitable also provides plenty of space and time for humans and aliens to never cross paths, The Fermi Paradox isn't that paradoxical.
Thank you, i just learned about the fermi paradox. My thoughts, it’s wrong. First, he’s right about the timeline of rocket building and colonization but he’s wrong about the nature of civilization that do grow not just in size but also in maturation. We, earthlings, are in our infancy at a few hundred thousand years. We’re still having temper tantrums wanting toys and desserts and wanting to fight for them. War, the need to colonize because we’ve wasted current natural resources, not knowing how to balance births and deaths rates, etc. We’re sitting on a branch if an apple tree and sawing it off from the tree (global warming) so we can eat our fill of all the apples on the branch. Immaturity is all it is. We’ll mature when we would have nearly destroyed ourselves not in theory but in fact. An advanced civilization such as one with the capability to transverse solar systems or parallel universes would’ve matured by that time. And probably faced the same problems as we currently face and got past it. An advance civilization would not need to colony, but to study as scientists would. To learn, possibly welcome us into the life collective species. But only when they feel we’re ready, but we aren’t now (hell, we’ve already shot an alien space craft). Shoot first, think later, we’re already seen too many alien movies to be rational. Any alien species developed enough to study us has developed far beyond the childish behaviors earthlings are prone to have.
WE ARE NOT ALONE! I have numerous video and picture proofs on my iPhone, (triple saved) from a 2 week period in 2020. My attorney advised me to stay quiet, as well as many others including the DOD. I promise however, I will let the world see my experiences with this, whatever it is, and judge for themselves one day.
It's mathematically impossible for us to be alone in the universe, when you add infinity to the math. The math is correct and broken at the same time. You have to limit the math to get finite math, instead of infinite and then we run into the problem we don't actually have any data to create math from. Infinite math is just crazy, it allows for an infinite number of identical earths, with an identical copy of you, me and everyone else on it, but the "problem" is that we will never see those other earths, so do they exist beyond what infinity math say? (The core of multiverse is non identical, there would be one universe where Sam says yes to marry Tyson and one he said no. Though that can lead to periods of non-identical universes leading back to identical. If they avoid having kids together or separately, that could still lead to a merging of universes, because without kids it clearly wouldn't matter if Sam or Tyson existed.)
Infinity does not imply repetition or even similarities in the members of the set. Basic example in the counting numbers are infinite yet there are no repeated numbers
@@Living_Matrix1 No, its true. The universe has utterly failed to get our attention! Its dead! 13 billion years and not a single flash of light designated to get anyones attention that we can tell.
If a rabbit pooped in the Amazon Rainforest the size of just one of those turds is equivalent to the volume of our universe into which our radio waves have traveled, if the forest represents our universe. [Disclosure: The comparison really is not to scale. It would take our entire galaxy compared to the little rabbit turd to really get closer to the actual geometrical juxtaposition involved but people have a better intuitive sense of a rabbit turd next to the Amazon than to the Milky Way Galaxy. I think.
"Alone" can mean either (a) there's no E.T out there, or (b) there's E.T. but it's so distant that it's beyond any chance of contact. I'd guess (b) is much more likely than (a). Even if a smart E.T. were living within a few hundred light years of us, conversation would be virtually impossible.
Finding any is as likely as winning the lottery, possibly even less when you consider how weak telescopes are at detecting anything beyond a thousand light years away from us.
@@huhuruz77 that is the observable universe which is likely either infinitely small compared to the actual size or so small you'd need nested stack of power towers of ten starting with a single tower of ten to it's own own exponent dozens of times over to even come close to showing the size difference. A Planck length is about a Graham's number times closer to the known universe than the known universe is to the actual size and this is a rough estimate at that. There is likely several hundred arrows in knuth notation between two tens to express the number of star systems and planets in the entire universe. And there is likely other universes out there either an infinite distance away from our own or seperated into circular bubbles as the common multiverse hypothesis would suggest.
When you take into account the unimaginable size of the known universe, a universe in which our estimation of the number of galaxies multiplies by the thousands year by year. It is within the obvious that there are likely over 200 billion galaxies. That number billions, not a couple but 200 billion, a number that has a better chance of reaching into the trillions then maintaining the latest estimate. Now the number of planets in the universe is beyond our ability to comprehend. Even if the percentage of habitable planets is in the .0001 range that still leaves a number in the trillions of planets able to support life. A tiny percentage of these planets with intelligent life hovers in the 100s of billions. There is intelligent life spread all over the universe, some long gone, some just beginning ( earth being one of the youngest ). That said, understanding the distance between one galaxy to another the chance of intelligent life being aware of any other is highly improbable. Those that have most certainly haven't existed in common technically advanced time periods. Civilizations were and are abundant, even though the nearest being still thousands of light years away. Searching is a waste of time and money. Conduct our explorations for our selfish desires and if at some period we do make contact it would be an conscious altering bonus. Hey guys it's not going to happen this century. One last thought, when you consider the number of planets existing now, before and still to form should there actually be intelligent civilizations in the billions these are civilizations that are a rarity in a universe where planets number in the trillions of trillions, what's after trillions, um quadrillion. A few hundred million is a very very small percentage. We and our 200 billion distant neighbors are a rarity indeed.
Once you understand how unimaginably vast is the universe, not only in space but also time. Then you'll have a better idea of the extreme improbability that inhabitants of one world will ever make contact with another. Not only the near impossible distance but again think of the billions of years. A good place to start is to put science fiction aside and don't take movies like Star Wars and Star Trek seriously, neither one has anything to do with reality. I'd recommend viewing pictures taken from Hubble and the recently launched James Webb space telescopes.
Isn't one group of human species enough for any universe, hopefully were alone, just look at the state of the planet and the misery we cause on it for man and beast..
yes. and no. we cause misery. and we are the only species investing time, money, and effort into a bunch of good things. F.e. we train vets, who then save unrelated animals of other species. We are the worst AND the best.
Intelligent life capable of communication is in all likelihood pretty rare and time/space distances involved make meetings of these sparks in the vast dark emptiness not that probable
Yeah but you assume so much saying it. How big is the universe? We have no idea. What technologies could these alien races have discovered allowing faster than light travel? We don't know. How long have they and other aliens have had to survey the universe for intelligent life? We don't know. Its entirely plausible that these races have seen a good portion of the universe, and even seen us, but chose not to interfere in our development. There are lots of possibilities. We can't really assume any of them, or claim one is more probable than the other
Yes, I agree with "No A.i." who posted below, that distance is the key obstacle for discovering us or us them. Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. The fanciful ideas of somehow using black holes or worm holes are science fiction conveniences, used to circumvent the light-speed reality. There could be other civilizations, but they would be caught in the same limitations.
NDGT is legend. Michio Kakalaku should learn how to be a scientist from him because he’s been spreading a lot of nonsense lately and forgot he is actually a scientist that draws a lot of attention. He’s very irresponsible.
I'm surprised Michio has said some of the things he's said without having access to critical information, which he clearly does not have. The most prominent example is, of course, his comments on Rogan's podcast about UAPs. Without RADAR data--and hopefully more than that, but that would be a great start--he has no business making the claims he made.
I've seen other beings crafts up close many times. They monitored me and didn't even try to hide it. They came to my home also and done stuff when I was asleep or trying to sleep. This went on for around 5ish years, between around 2014ish and 2019ish then stopped as sudden as it all started. I saw then many times though. These video are very frustrating because I know so much more then them and yet I will always be viewed as a crazy person, yet I am light years ahead of those who think I am crazy or mistaken, because I saw them and they came to me.
Speculation is that there's a connection between UFO sightings / abductions and the NDE/OBE phenomena. This is based on subjective experiences. I have experienced it myself. And yes, I know there's no scientific evidence for this, so hard care materialist folk need not chime in and state the obvious.
@@ScottSmith-rv3yo I would not say he is clueless but perhaps a better word is that he "misspeaks" too often? I once heard him malign the human reproductive system/organs and digestive-excretory-system/organs as poorly designed due to their location on our bodies, their close proximity, and that they were multi-functioning. Well from an engineering perspective (I am an engineer) the design of those aforementioned systems is genius. Every engineer's goal is to design, economically, a multifunctional (mostly)self-cleaning, (mostly)self-repairing highly essential machine that is a major irreplaceable part of a larger system. I really wish I was in the audience when he was giving that talk. I would have asked him if he can come up with something better.
The part I digress is where he talks about intelligence not being an inevitability. That’s possible, but equally possible that the opposite is true, due to the fact that like he argues, complex life simply hasn’t been around a long time, and I expand on that by saying that perhaps it has not been around long enough to make that determination. We haven’t had enough time in the present time-frame to know either way really, IMO. Had the asteroid never hit Earth and Dinosaurs never went extinct, had they been subjected to the same climate conditions that gave rise to us, it isn’t unreasonable to presume that one of them would have evolved to have advanced intelligence as well.
You are actually not far off, what you are talking about actually kind of happened, dinosaurs didn't go extinct, one group of dinosaur survived, birds. The smartest birds even rival the intelligence of chimps and other smart primates. So yes dinosaurs did evolve quite big intelligences. You should look up corvids and their incredible problem solving skills.
Avi Loeb called Tyson a non thinker doesn't think outside the box no curiosity. hasn't had any research of significan and a celeb not a real scientist. I concur with his observations.
Yeah I agree with you, however Neil has a huge audience. He's always talking about and popularizing science to the world, that's really important too. The dude recruits, you can't take that away from him
@@veryprofessionaldude7653 recruits non thinkers? People that want to be told how to think as it is the lazy way. Could say it's better than nothing but actually just stifles critical thinking
@@kayhawkins5925 dude, you just pulled an argument from authority "Avi Loeb said, so I'm going to defend it blindly and not take a valid criticism" if that's not non-thinking I don't know what is. Also it's not like Neil hasn't published, all you need to do is type his name in Google Scholar and you'll see he's been involved in dozens of publications. Practice what you preach and think for yourself.
@@veryprofessionaldude7653 no noteworthy publications. He is celeb with no real weight a pundit. You can love him and listen. He would be in over his head in any debate with Ave Loeb and most other scientists that think outside the box. Tyson is just one of many skeptics and it is far easier to criticise or debunk rather than do the work . No real research or science based data or papers just writes to write nothing earth shattering or mind blowing
@@kayhawkins5925 oh, and you've read all of those papers? Again, just taking Avi's word as gospel without checking it out for yourself. Tbf, you're right, that's the first thing I even said. But of course Avi's going to do more hard science than Niel, Avi is at Harvard and Neil is the director of a planetarium for the public. No shit there's going to be a disparity, they've dedicated their lives to wholly different pursuits. Avi's to research, Neil's to science communications with the public. Both are valuable, that's all I'm saying
The reason we never hear from other civilizations seems obvious if you understand the concept of deep time. Civilizations probably have lifespans, however long. Even long lived civilizations surely pale next to the scale of the deep time of the universe in general. Civilizations flit by like sparks in a campfire... and we expect to see each other?
"Are we any different from beavers?" is silly. Beavers dam building is amazing, but they do it instinctively in response to the sound of running water. They are born knowing how to do it, though they appear to learn stuff by watching as well. Each human has the capacity to learn any of the myriad skills we have invented. The powers we evolved were a brain that can imagine and plan, language, opposable thumbs, hips and feet made for running, etc. The rest of what got us to the moon was invented. Beavers have invented very little.
Suppose... that life formed elsewhere BUT never developed the need to seek resources? What if an "advanced" civilization never developed capital, Social order, greed, never squandered resources. Perhaps never thought to develop long distance communication? What if we need to not just think of where life could be supported, but also to not hang out own failures and fears on it. What if they are so dissimilar, that "life" may not even be the right term for them?
I see where you're going with this but we still can't compare our life on earth to any other. The minute we discover bacterial life on other planets then perhaps we can call ourselves "advanced". 😁
Another great video. You are smart and pretty. I love it. My 3 favorite speakers are: - Lauren Chen - Kim Iverson - Candace Owens When life gets me down I spend the evening with my books. My 3 favorite books are: - The Sci-Fi & Fantasy Art of Patrick J. Jones - Beyond the Horizon by John Harris - Great Fighter Jets of the Galaxy 1 by Tim Gibson
"The nearest Miracle we have before us is that within a few billion years the Universe, through The marvelous laws of chemistry and physics, has converted part of itself into Consciousness and now that Consciousness can contemplate the very universe that begat it."---- Dr. Bernard Oliver, SETI c. 1978 (In Search Of )
I don't know what consciousness is but check out the latest hypothesis on how we developed BIG BRAINS.
___As the largest animals on the landscape disappeared, the scientists propose, human brains had to grow to enable the hunting of smaller, swifter prey.____
___This hypothesis argues that early humans specialized in taking down the largest animals, such as elephants, which would have provided ample fatty meals. When these animals' numbers declined, humans with bigger brains, who presumably had more brainpower, were better at adapting and capturing smaller prey, which led to better survival for the brainiacs. ____
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Who or what created the ingenious laws of physics and chemistry?
@@jjac72 Who says they were "created"? It seems the MULTIVERSE and the laws of physics have always been around in some form and we humans just happen to be "lucky" enough to have an evolved brain to ask these questions. 😁
@@jjac72 that’s a god of the gaps fallacies
Sam's just pure relaxed and cool demeanor juxtaposed to Neil's super excited wildness is very needed and much appreciated
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I think the deeper question is, how would our lives change, should we have proof of life on other planets? How would that change our purposes or the way we conduct ourselves? For me personally, I wouldn't change a thing, since I'm already convinced enough there is a lot of life out there, just like there's a lot of everything else.
That is my answer to all these "Bible bashers." There may very well be other inhabited worlds, but we have to live in _this_ one.
If people were as Interested in life on this planet as life on others this place might not be fucked
It would screw up the whole Bible thing but religion would adapt as usual.
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Rescale the age of the Universe to one year. The last 13,000 years, the time it took us from the last ice age to move from being hunters and farmers to the James Webb telescope, represents 30 seconds in that rescaled year. Let's remain optimistic and think that we won't destroy ourselves. Imagine how much we could achieve, not in 30 seconds but in one minute or one hour for that matter! 120 x 13,000 years. Think of all the planets out there, then think of all the 30 seconds (or one hour) in any day of any month of the rescaled year that would have been enough on any of these planets to become "technically advanced", and yet........ all of a sudden the "Where is everybody" is starting to makes sense.
@Daniel Paulson ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HOW RELIGION POISONS EVERYTHING ?
Stay positive
I think most intelligent civilizations elsewhere if they exist, and I think the universe IS big enough. I really don't think they would destroy them selves, set backs, major population decrease is more likely." Destroying ourselves" is an emotional or political thought.
@@ScottSmith-rv3yo what do you mean ?
Spot on Surge. That tells me we're the only intelligent life in our galaxy. Unless the Great Filter is in front of us. Then we're basically stuffed.
"The impossible existence of flat earthers"~ I feel exactly same. Well said
my brother is one, he thinks all science is lies and we're eternal
Kind of like a piece of plywood beeing drug behind a boat.What happens,it flies apart.Free thinking is what gave Newton the theory of gravity.The laws of planetary orbits and the spectrum we know today as light.Its convolessing ideas Johaness Kepler and Niclaùs Copernicus are 2 others that shared ideas as long as they make sense.Necessity is the mother of all invention
The belief that the Earth is flat by flat Earther's is just as hilarious that the Universe is flat by science but yet Earth, flat, aliens, religion, science and even the Universe are concepts but the Uni-verse is eternity(Uni or whole) conceptualizing itself(human verse or human consciousness) to know it exist as its own self proof(Universe) which then repeats or reproduces itself as its own self proof as its own eternal knowledge of itself therefore I always have and I always will rewrite this same exact comment because forever knowledge of itself never changes as forever knowledge of itself, Universe repeats itself because eternity means reproductive state of self knowledge(to self exist and to know I self exist) or eternity(Universe) is the origin story(human conscious knowledge) of itself as eternity(Universe).
@@theuniques1199 Like a pancake flying through space
@@edpottinger849 Exactly, the concept of a pancake flying through space never goes beyond itself as an image of itself but always absolutely points to this reality itself as the always present moment right now, no matter what you believe in it's always this Universe that your concepts point to, you know that you exist because you exist therefore you exist because you know that you exist which means that you can never escape this present moment right now as the whole Universe itself, space can never be outside itself just as eternity can never be outside eternity. I am the Universe observing myself the Universe. The Universe is an anthropomorphic image of itself, and if you responded to me with sarcasm then I can say I really responded back to you with my own form of sarcasm and if you weren't being sarcastic then I can say I really responded to you without my own form of sarcasm, whatever you desire to first believe but it won't change the fact that you always exist to always know that you exist and that you always have and that you always will respond exactly the same to my comment whether you believe me or whether you believe not to believe me.
OMG IS THERE A CONTINUATION OF THIS INTERVIEW?! How on EARTH can this be left with such a cliffhanger?!!!
Exactly l! That is my question too! What the heck?
This is from Sam Harris’ podcast, Making Sense which is a paid feed. This is the free version.
Yes another cliffhanger somebody wants to make money off for me. I’m not biting. Personally these so-called UFOs or technologies recorded by the military and others or a smoke screen so the government can justify some coming money expenditure or purely a diversion around a financial crisis in the US of a
ua-cam.com/video/Kj6egDNetRQ/v-deo.html
Interesting how he put the end and then ...oh goodnight...LOL. LET ME END IT...WELL FACT IS THE DATA CLEARLY SHOWS THERE IS SOME TYPE OF INTELLIGENCE FAR ADVANCED OF ANYTHING WE KNOW OR UNDERSTAND OPERATING ON THIS PLANET. THIS IS INDISPUTABLE AT THIS TIME.
I would have thought that the question is not ‘are we alone in the universe’ ? BUT, is technology able to travel and transport life across vast distances in space, between planets within the galaxy and beyond. Just because life hasn’t reached us does not mean it is not there .
That's correct. There is no way , no way , that our planet posses unique chemical and biological properties in entire galaxy , much less in entire universe. But the question is distances and technology.
There almost certainly is life but even microbial life is made of complex chemistry and needs very precise condition to not only form but continue to exist. With that said if the universe is infinite in size than there most certainly is life out there even if it's only an infinite amount of clones of you and I.
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Sam Harris would have had an incredible career as a sleep time aid
He does have videos where he does that.
That's what I'm here for.
Lol! 😂
Mono tone anyone? There's no way anyone can last more than 2 minutes in this guys class geez
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More of these, please. What a pair of great minds.
Great minds, oh you are being sarcastic right,? My friend Neal has lost his mind, in the cosmos I presume.
What is great about their minds ? 🤔
@@wokelion1573 You wouldn't understand if you already can't. Best play video games.
@@danielpaulson8838 your reply is worth fart gas.
I'm always frustrated with people assuming that human nature, mentality and way of thinking is inherent to every possible intelligent being in the universe. We have no experience in contacts with alien beings, but we still think they should have the same (bloody) history as we do.
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They could be Demonlike Horrorshow crazy elite predators!
@@BarryBollox. Or angel like, wise, super intelligent, good and heartwarming.
And anything between.
@@damyr Angels are literally conquering warriors of God. I get the analogy but most Christians or lay ppl don’t know the true nature of Angels. They’re capable of positive things and negative things.
I actually lost a little respect for Steven Hawking when he said that we (meaning SETI) should ON PURPOSE avoid making contact with aliens and used what happened to less advanced societies on Earth like the Native Americans as an example. That really ticked me off. I wanted him to fully SUPPORT the effort to find life elsewhere.
You work with the information you have...
We are not alone in the universe...we have each other
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Multicellular life was not possible until about 600 million years ago. There was not enough oxygen in the atmosphere to energetically support multicellular life (using oxygen metabolism). It took almost 3 billion years for oxygen to accumulation from photosynthesis because the ocean and land were reducing. The world had lots of iron dissolved in the ocean that reacted with the oxygen, rusted, and sank to the bottom. Until oxygen reached about 18%, converting the environment from reducing to oxidative, there wasn't enough free oxygen to power multicellular life and there wasn't enough to form the ozone layer, which allowed the land to be colonized.
On Earth.
Mitochondria made that possible.
This did get cut off. Are they looking for money?
Don't you mean 6000 years ago? :)
Are we alone? Absolutely not
Will we ever confirm that? Absolutely not
Universe is just waaay too big. And it's getting even bigger every second. Eventually we won't even be able to see stars in the sky. Planets will be there, but stars will be beyond sight. Kinda sad because it means we need to learn whatever we can while it still there.
Uhhh, no.
There are probably billions of life forms “out there”, the distances however, make it highly unlikely that we will make contact anytime soon. Or they have been here since the beginning, running a billion year experiment.
Since we know that life isn't just abundant everywhere in the universe, then we know it may in fact be scarce and rare. It then becomes unrealistic to assume that there are more advanced alien lifeforms than our own that live during our current lifetime, and that are close enough to us to get here, and have the technology to travel here, and the willingness to connect with humankind. It also seems logical that humans would be overly optimistic about alien encounters and fake them for any number of reasons. We may not actually be alone, but we may never know if we are or were alone.
Who says "we know that life isn't just abundant everywhere in the universe"? We have only sniffed around one solar system.
@@AALavdas the building blocks are abundant, but how do they come together to form complex multicellular life? Nobody knows the answer to that.
Good points. Besides the impossible distances and the ridiculous energy requirements relating to interstellar travel, the biological aspects are just as important. An alien species is very much a product of their home planet. They would not travel here unless our solar system was an exact replica of their system. The atmosphere (gases and pressure), must be the same. The gravity must be the same. The solar radiation must be the same. They must be able to consume our food. Finally, they have no protection against bacteria and viruses that are unique to our planet. This is mostly academic as biological lifeforms could not survive a 20,000 year transit time. Even the power source for the spacecraft would not last that amount of time. Assuming an alien craft made it to earth, the ship would be a derelict, completely without power or life and would sail right past our planet. Similar to Oumuamua that recently entered and then left our solar system.
@@billymania11 wet blanket much?
@@IntheClutch75 making dumb assumptions much?
"OWHHH MY GOSH" I love how he says it
Timestamp or it didn't happen.
Yes he says that a lot I like how he says it too
28.47 time stamp he says ohhwww my gosshhh.
To understand the possibility of life outside of Earth you must first understand "Reality."
When younger and an avid reader of science fiction, I was of the opinion, yes, there was other 'intelligent' life out there! When I read about the Fermi paradox and my opinion started to waiver. Then I came upon a book written by a famous science writer that gave convincing reasons why our planet is unique. That book was Alone In the Universe! So now my opinion about life being numerous has gone from 10 to 1...
I agree about intelligent life. The amount of specific evolutionary steps to get to intelligence that have to occur by chance, all while battling everything the universe is throwing at it is huge. I'm surprised we even exist at times. But I do have hope for microbial life, that can live in some wild places
Brian Cox thinks that microscopic life my be "common" ,but higher evolved life forms, which require large time periods of planet stability,are more than likely rare...who knows.
I just find it very egocentric to think that we’re so special. Our galaxy alone contains over 100 billion stars (possibly up to 400 billion), and we know there are at least 100 billion galaxies. I find it hard to believe that in almost 14 billion years, we are the only complex and “intelligent” life to ever exist in that incomprehensible vastness. I feel our very existence is evidence that complex/intelligent life likely exists or existed elsewhere in the universe.
@@christopherfaulkner5821 Now 2 trillion galaxies,and we have only been scientifically developing for 500 years,And really quite advanced for the last hundred....out of 13.8 or thereabouts billions of years...Took 3B years to form multicellular life here...but it has happened here...I use the word intelligence with " " around it as our lust for material goods,power,religiosity and other more basic primal primate characteristics are still strongly held onto,so much so that we are now in a race to save ourselves from ourselves....how arrogant,simple and shortsighted many,especially in power,are...!
@@christopherfaulkner5821 Indeed. One aspect to the question that many people seem to ignore is that the vastness of space, while contributing to a higher chance of intelligent life developing at multiple locations, is also contributing to the unlikeliness of those different locations to meet each other. Worm-holes an hyperspace are nice for science fiction novels, but in actuality they might be impossible. Who will embark on a one-way voyage that will require either fail-less cryogenic technologies or self-sustaining humongous generational spaceships that are resistant to all cosmic radiation out there? The problem is very difficult, if not impossible, to surmount. Travelling in space, beyond a local destinations like the solar system, is probably just a pipe dream.
But hey, we might discover a way... if we survive our own greed that is destroying the only habitat we have.
It could be that greed is an inescapable consequence of intelligent life, and this is why we feel we are alone. Maybe all intelligent exo-civilisations succumbed to their greed and basically self-destructed before having the chance to even begin finding a way to travel through the vastness of space.
Infinitely interesting conversation, but why did it cut off mid-stream? Is there a part 2?
This is shaped to make you believe there is a conspiracy. Keep in mind that you can find the entire audio and interview. Find it! You’ll see that this has no reason to believe that how he ended this video is what Sam Harris or Neil Degrass Tyson believes.
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Where's part 2? Left us in complete suspense!
Its called the basic human condition.. GREED. he didn't do this to give it away for free . If u want to hear more unproven bs you have to go to his podcast.
Hi , MR Harris, and regards to mr Neil Tyson, thanks for your support, the only people who’s able to explain simple science, and change it to smart understanding, to everyone, are scientists and smart philosopher,thanks from both of you.
"explain simple science?" did you mean explain science simply?
I have no time to make my language stronger, if you can understand, so everyone can. Thanks 😊
@@mehdibaghbadran3182 I'm to weak to understand so that others might look strong
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You, Sir, just got yourself a new subscriber.
Surely the answer is probably no, but spacetime is so vast, SO VAST, that we may as well be alone, because, although we may possibly detect signs of life elsewhere in the galaxy (or even the universe), the overwhelming probability is that, even if it is intelligent life, communication, let alone interaction with such a civilisation is impossible.
Our shout out: "Hello!"
Their reply: (2,000 years later say, that being a very optimistic estimate) "What?"
That's some scintillating party we've chat got going.
Where will we be if we don’t blow this planet up in 2000 years in technology. In the last 30 years we have in our hands phones that can do what a man holding a camera, calculator, map book etc etc where he would be to heavy to walk all in a hand held device. In 2000 years we will be traveling to other galaxy’s undetected IMO. There here and the military have stollen there technology. Iv seen shit that no known military flying machine can do. Other intelligent civilisations can be thousands even millions of years ahead of us. Mike needs to look up and open his eyes.
Worth a watch on the topic of alien life: ua-cam.com/video/UjtOGPJ0URM/v-deo.html
The great filter will get us all.
Yes, we are all alone in the universe. The probability of finding intelligent extraterrestrial life or space aliens is virtually zero. This is common sense.
The actual size of the universe is to the knowable universe as the knowable universe is to a Planck in a universe that is a centillion times larger than our own, at the very least I'd say.
Shame on the algorithms that kept this from the TOP of ' the suggested list' for all of us, for so long!!!
Space is soooooooo vast and dark, with exploding balls of fusion from pressures too great to fathom…scattered across the web of space.
From our perspective, it’s gorgeous and hopeful…but up close, every single light in the sky, is just death!
Be grateful, we are still here, because you say odds are there is life out there, I say odds are, we just got extremely lucky, lucky like winning the lottery everyday for a whole year, lucky.
I'm not really sure what are you trying to say. Those exploding balls of fusion, no matter how deadly they are, are also source of life.
And that luck you're talking about, is totally irrelevant, because no one who doesn't exist can feel unlucky. So, from such pov, luck is relative. But generally speaking it's just a colloquial term for simplified explanation of many various different factors (causes and consequences). In scientific terms, luck doesn't exist.
I think you didn't include enough 'o's.
Lawrence Krause said we are all STARDUST . Yes, I agree, the universe is a brutal place for the creation of complex life. 😁
How lucky we are to be the center of the solar system. We are so special.
You know I originally deleted this comment to reread yours. But I stand by my original
Wow, it's amazing how little you know about space. Unless it's between your ears.
Excellent video. Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video. A must see video for everyone.
Humans are naive to think that we are the only intelligent life in this neverending universe.
Just because we don't have proof doesn't mean we are alone.
We are just a spec of dust on a bigger spec of dust named earth, that orbits one Star that is on the outer tail of 1 Galaxy that has 200 billion other stars in it. Which travels through the universe with 2 trillion other galaxies that we can see.
I love what you said but why does space represent life?
They think too little of themselves 🚀
_Humans are naive to think that we are the only intelligent life in this neverending universe._
Humans are naive to think that there is a 'creator' responsible for intelligent life in this neverending universe.
Humans are naive to think that there isn't a 'creator' responsible for intelligent life in this neverending universe.
I could go on...
Beautifully correct
_Just because we don't have proof doesn't mean we are alone. _
Just because we don't have proof doesn't mean we are _not_ alone. Nothing naive about that.
These two gentlemen are well educated & they are both good speakers. I have a great deal of respect for them & I am grateful for their contributions to general education. However, when it comes to the question, "Are we alone in the universe?", they know no more about that than any of us(unless there is some kind of conspiracy that they are in on & we aren't 😉).
I won't speak for anyone here but myself, but this is what they know more than I:
They seem to know more about our limitations as homo sapiens only 200k yrs into our evolution vs the vastness of space, how small a role intelligence has historically played in our survival, the exponential relevance of time and purpose as parameters in searching our universe, how potentially advanced or primordial life can be if we found it, the elements required to sustain life in other galaxies, how unlikely it is that we'd find life in its replicating state (like Earth existed for 800m years before life existed), how we'd go about exploring other galaxies, and unless we developed a way to travel at or near the speed of light, how long it would take even robotic/unmanned spacecrafts traveling at near-light speeds to reach interstellar destinations, that we'd be dead & gone for a hundred years before we're likely to find a worthy destination.
Understanding all the above, I still have hope and a childlike sense of wonder. Just the right place at just the right time in its evolution, we find a planet that supports complex life? It'd be an honor to be alive to see complex life in other galaxies, but I know I'm likely going to be dead many, many years before that happens. In these days of ignorance, political treachery, animosity & violence, it's hard to focus on our greatest minds & bravest explorers. who will hopefully represent the best of us in thousands of year to come.
I wonder what someone whose AI finds this post in June 4th, 3022, would appreciate that I was thinking of them today? How far they must have come by then. How I wish I had even a conscious hour to breathe & exist with them. How I hope they still have Stratocasters & how funny my Samsung S21 Ultra phone must seem to them, how slow & hilarious my Subaru WRX would seem, and how hideous my beautiful girlfriend would seem to them. How basic the brilliant Webb Telescope must seem to them now. How all the above (except my girlfriend) might be in a museum.
Your claim is simply false.
I believe they've given it much more than the average person they are devoted to what the do, while the average person wants heaven and is superficial and glib
I like the idea that we are the universe being aware of itself
Neil's conversation is far more interesting here talking to Sam than when he's on Joe Rogan's show
Well, that should not be surprising at all
Joe Rogan podcast is a conduit for brilliance (Neil or Brian Cox) or lunacy(Eddie Bravo or Alex Jones). Or WTF like Commander Dave Fravor or Bob Lazar. I think it's a fascinating balance.
Of course, we're not alone. We may not have the capacity to recognize life in other forms but that does not mean that we are alone.
Until we get evidence of those other life forms why should we conclude we're not alone?
@@cardcounter21 Because creation is a universal law. It was there long before we evolved and it will be there long after humankind is gone. Lifeform is part and parcel of the universe. We may never have the evidence because our capabilities are limited.
@@cardcounter21 There is plenty of evidence on this very Globe that we are existing now, that there was microbial life on it long before recognizable life forms evolved. Life forms that we would not have recognized as such were crucial to evolution. How much more evidence do you need?
@@alexgoslar4057 _'...There is plenty of evidence on this very Globe that we are existing now, that there was microbial life on it long before recognizable life forms evolved...'_
Until we find 'evidence' of microbial life on other planets then you are just making an assumption! life evolving on this planet does not automatically mean it has on others! I believe it probably has but I'm not going to jump to any conclusion without at least seeing some kind of evidence!
@@cardcounter21, First of all, there is fossil evidence that microbial life existed on earth millions of years before vertebra came into existence. Secondly, with your logic, that we can only believe what we understand, not too long ago we believed that the earth is flat and that the sun rotates around the earth. What we consider to be evidence is very limited and conditional. Stay well and connected.
Everyone has a cell phone with a camera. Nobody has yet to take a picture of an alien. Odd?
I didn't know smartphone were gigantic telescopes that could directly see the surface of exoplanets...
Maybe, y'know, think before posting?
@@waltonsimons9082 Walton, answer the question: Why hasn't anyone with a cellphone camera produced an alien pic ?
@@waltonsimons9082 Walton, I did think before posting. Obviously, you didn't.
@@johnzaccardi526 "Why hasn't anyone with a cellphone camera produced an alien pic ?"
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Sorry for commenting on an old post...
Regarding "year zero" - why do we need it at all? Keep in mind that in some languages (Slavic languages at least) they use ordinal rather than cardinal numerals to denote years. So your "year one" becomes "the first year". This alleviates the need in "year zero". Zero becomes a point/moment of midnight from December 31 of the First Year BCE (actually, the LAST year BCE) into January 1 of the FIRST year CE. So zero becomes a point on the timeline as it actually ought to be.
In the same vibe - we have no need for "century zero". We are going directly from the first century BCE to the first century CE with no problem or objection at all.
I love such topics!
Is there a part 2 to this podcast? It just ended abruptly at 49:38.
We might as well be alone bcuz we're so far away from anyone else we'll never reach them.
Word!
exactly. People dont really understand how big space is. there are 100s of millions of stars around here, even before you get to Andromeda ... to think theres no life in the billions of other galaxies, or this one, is a failure of comprehension of space
You have to have hope
You are just basing that on our technology and perception of time and space. Also they may be too far away but instead come here from other dimensions. Don’t rule those possibilities out.
Sam is a snoozer, juxtaposed with Neil's elevated and excited speech. If I could FF and listen only to Neil, I would.
You could do that, but you'd be missing one of the best listeners and "digesters of information" on the planet. And that's to say nothing of how deep Sam's questions are after analyzing the content of his guests.
When did this podcast/conversation originally take place? Thanks for the video. Love these thought provoking discussions.
June 2021
Also do you know where the rest of this interview is? That really ended on a cliff hanger… would love to hear his response to that last question!
@@ShellyBBird making sense podcast, 9 months ago. You have to subscribe to hear full episodes
@@ShellyBBird exactly what I thought, I’d be interested to hear his answer to that
It's this making sense podcast with the intro edited out
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I have watched a variety of UA-cam channels on the silence of space. Generally, an average distance between separate but parallel technological civilisations can be considered in the order of 1000 light years. Small enough to enable 100-200 civilisations in our galaxy at any one time but most are too far to even communicate, let alone travel to one another before the inevitable demise diminishes their technological development.
If evidence is discovered first hand, it may well be archeological, long dead but preserved in the vacuum of space.
Is there a part 2?? It was just getting good.
It suspiciously cut out at the very best part! Let the conspiracy theories begin.
@@janetm6701 I found the whole video. Just look up Neil Degrasse Tyson and Sam Harris talk ufo's
Thank you!!
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@@janetm6701 gotta pay for the rest unfortunately. It's on Sam's subscription only podcast. He only puts half up for free. Very annoying lol.
Great talk.I wish people would understand the science behind the question Are we Alone? Its about time and distance not detecting hospitable atmospheres.If there are others out there that are organic which they must be, they cant traverse the distance necessary to reach another habitable planet in their lifetimes.Couple that with the unliklihood that any civilization could exist in exactly the same time frame as we exist without one or the other winking out and you have no shot at a meet and greet.
I wish people would understand the science of time dilation at relativistic speeds so time is not necessarily an issue.
@@user-lb8do4ew6k I like science that builds on what is known to find out what more there is to know.Not science fiction.
@@brucegelman5582 Relativity isn't science fiction
I feel smarter just listening to these two.
They Are both extremely smart. But have to admit I think Sam Harris is vastly smarter than Tyson. Maybe not in Astro physics, but I just feel like Neil hasn't ever really said anything profound. Maybe it's just 2 different types of intelligence. But it just seems like Tyson basically just loves science and has a great memory. Like he's more of an encyclopedia of things that he's read or observed or other people have discovered, a Wikipedia of the universe if you will, and Harris is more like the one that thought up and invented the Internet to put the Wikipedia web page on.
Listen to lex Fridman podcast.
Keep in mind it's only speculation Nothing definitive
@@mrclark5033 anything they say its based on the available evidence not speculative. Look up definition of speculative.
@@robinhood20253 I agree. However conjecture is often the end result
Think for a moment...chimps and humans share 98% DNA. We're talking identical DNA! DNA for noses, ears, eyes, hair, bones, etc etc etc! Consider the fact that any two random humans share 99.9% DNA. Everything you see as different (not you) in another random human is in that .1%. I find that incredibly fascinating, and equally disturbing considering our behavior toward one another.
Yes, we also share 40% of our dna with a banana, you do not need to invent a wheel for every wheel burrow out there.
@@joeme3552 I agree, common ancestry with all living things is amazing.
That .01% difference among all of us accounts for a large degree of genetics a tiny fraction of which is even linked to facial features (used for racial classings) you've got to remember the average adult human aged 15 to eighty has trillion of cells all with their own unique DNA structure and comprise our DNA code. So even such a tiny fraction of difference amounts it million of feels with their own DNA structure that makes us all unique, more inside than out .....
@@douche8980 You really need to repost your comment w/o all the grammar errors. It's complete gibberish.
@@spectreskeptic3493 yes, all living things are made of the same “Lego”
So far in any statistical way..there is no life in the universe. Since we are presently unique as far as we know we can't even begin to calculate odds
As far as we know
Which is more likely, we are alone in the universe, or, Niel degrasse Tyson answering a question without rambling a useless point for 45 minutes first?
Billions of galaxies, and still I’m alone.
Why is the term junk DNA no longer used?
Noncoding DNA does not provide instructions for making proteins. Scientists once thought noncoding DNA was “junk,” with no known purpose. However, it is becoming clear that at least some of it is integral to the function of cells, particularly the control of gene activity.Jan 19, 2021
Thanks to Neil for the great conversation and being brave enough to weather the "controversial" Sam. It is in talking about topics with every angle analyzed even the difficult and unpopular ones, that we progress as a society. We/Cancel is hurting us all.
Fucking eh......much work to be done on this ,our and all others only home....It is to be considered sacred,if anything is to be sacred...It is Earth,and life on Earth....Truly like nothing else.
@@markwallinger5801 It's too early for day drinking lady. Stay on topic.
I have strong conviction that we are the only beings on a planet.Of course there are invisible spirits arround us like angles Jin and devils.
strong conviction based on what exactly?
Love this chat. !
Keep em coming
I don't get how you can age the universe. The universe is EVERYTHING. There was never a beginning and there will never be an end therefore there is no age. Maybe we measure how far we can see light but I guarantee there is something beyond that so it's WAAAAYYYY older then we can comprehend.. and then it's WAY older then that because it always was
They have radio carbon dated the stardust too. Stellar evolution has also shown the way, the type of stars we see now are only possible within the predicted age of the universe. In fact ALL experiment models point to the inflationary universe being 13.4 billion years old, maybe slightly older.
Someone said that exact same thing a trillion years ago🤪
That's simply not true. There was a beginning.
Given the vastness of spacetime and the cosmic speed limit of causality, we will almost certainly never encounter or even see signs of other intelligent life. I believe it is out there/was out there/will be out there, but the chances that such a signal should reach Earth while humanity is looking for it is absurdly low to the point of approaching absolute zero. Are we alone? I very much doubt it, but for all practical purposes, we certainly are, and the only future aliens we have any real chance of encountering are variations of ourselves, if we ever manage to get off this planet and become an Interstellar species, at which point we are unlikely to resemble current day humans anymore.
All great scientists think we either are alone or we are very late to the party. I still think there is another civilization out there thriving on the opposite side of the universe
But how can we find out what is really in the universe.and what rocket 🚀 is going to fly from one end of the universe to the end that's my question ❓
I think we are alone in the WHOLE universe as intelligent life. We have to realise how rare it is for non living matter to become life & then self replicate. Or maybe, just maybe, we are the first. The universe is not that old in the grand scheme of things. Most of life the universe will ever know (if it can) will develop around extremely long lasting stars
Something to think about
How do we realize how rare it is for "living matter to become life" (which is circular logic but I digress)? Rarity implies there is statistical evidence. You would need to make rigorous observations of the galaxy at least in order to make such a claim. Our current technology does not allow us to do so due to the vast distances involved. Your logic is invalid
we are never alone as long as we have each other.
2's a company but anymore is a crowd.
I've often pondered the question if I would want us to connect with life on another planet. My answer is not really. We can't get over our fear of different looking humans. Aliens would cause a world meltdown.
i dont know. i dont care about how other different humans look, its just a skin colour.
@@cyberash3000 My point is there is not enough of you.
@@Marc010 YET each generation gets more accepting
@@Marc010 the fastest growing racial demographic is mixed race in the US. I would quit listening to the news.
I hope both of you are correct and the dividing lines we see are a thing of the past at some point. It is also instinctional and part of our dna for survival. I don't know how well aliens would be welcome but I'd be willing to wrong
As a substitute teacher, I had to show one of Neil's videos to a bunch of middle schoolers. The topic? How life was seeded on earth by asteroids. This is the 'science' that leads kids to suicide. Think about: what is life if we are just, in words of atheist comedian George Carlin, "Failed mutations." In fact, Carlin thinks the planet would be better off without people on it.
In that same middle school, I found a book called, 'The Darwin Awards.' Kids are actually reading this and it is child abuse. The book details the gruesome deaths of 'stupid' people, people that society is better without! The first chapter was about a woman walking too many dogs. They pulled her into a tree, killing her. The 'joke'? "I guess she was barking up the wrong tree!" Hardee har har.
Do people have a brain anymore? Kids read this book and think, "You know, this world would be better off without (mom, dad, 'friend', etc.) in it!" Now, kids are going into their schools and blowing their classmates away. Of course, the evolutionists will swear that their atheistic, situational morality has nothing whatsoever with the amorality of the public schools.
The sad tragedy for atheists is that, unless they make things right with God, they will live in their own insanity for all eternity. Do people create their own morals? The torturer in hell will! In fact, Jesus said that those in hell will be tortured. It is not hard to believe, is it? God is justice and take away our courts, police and jails (no matter how imperfect), and life becomes chaos.
Yet, Christ died on a Cross so that we can know Him. By the blood of Christ, we can be fit for paradise, where there are no liars or thieves and the weather is always perfect. I hope you get to know Christ. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
Don't be afraid that life is serendipitous. Life began on this planet a few billion years ago and will eventually be destroyed by it's star in another few billion years. What happens in between is simply a meaningless play that distracts us from the inevitable.
The video you had to show the class was on panspermia? If so, your wording above is either dishonest or you didn't care to listen during the video. "How life was seeded on earth by asteroids"...you know panspermia is simply a hypothesis, right? In other words, it's just a possibility.
Was the "Darwin Award" book you found provided by the school? Library? Student brought from home? Simply curious.
I found your post very saddening. I feel religious beliefs rob people of just how special this experience called life is. You're clearly a Christian, and even referenced hell and torture in your post. Seriously dude? I know you don't realize it, but that was a classic Freudian Slip. YOU are afraid of hell and torture. It's not real though brother. Neither is the hell of Islam, which you're definitely not afraid of. Rhetorical question for you: do you even WANT to know if you're wrong about this? That's for you to answer to yourself, not for me. If the answer is yes, you'll become an atheist 🤣🤣🤣
@@DoubleDoubleWithOnions Hi. Do you know that the universe is billions of years old or is that your religious belief? For example, a Biblical creationist looks at the scientific evidence and says, "The earth is only a few thousand years old." The evolutionist looks at the same evidence and says, "Billions." How do you know that you are right and the creationist is wrong? Do you think that the creationists are not logical in their thinking?
That said, how can you test your own logic? Is it not true that to test your own reason, you have to use your own reason? It is an absurdity. Moreover, is it not true that, over the course of your life, you have been wrong about so many things as to lose track? How do you know that you have it right 'this time'? Ever hear the saying, "Burn me once..."? How many times has your own 'logic' burned you, yet you trust your own opinions on eternity as if you were infallible?
Jesus said that, in heaven, no one will lie to you, steal from you, or otherwise disrespect you. Doesn't that sound great? Yet, do you see the problem? If you have ever lied, stolen, or disrespected God's wonderful Name, then you are not worthy of paradise.
You won't bring the temperature of hell down one degree simply because you don't believe! Unless you make things right with God, through the Cross, by the blood of Christ, then you will be tried and found guilty of being a lying thief and a blasphemer.
Jesus said that there will be torture in hell, but God does not have to torture anyone; just imagine life without any jails! In fact, you would be tortured right now were it not for the police (however imperfect they are). No police, no courts, no jails in hell. People can molest you indefinitely.
If you want to live by blind, unwarranted faith in you own intellect, you are in for a rude eternity. Yet, if you will admit that you don't know it all, that your confidence that there is no afterlife is totally unfounded, then you can meet Christ. God made you for friendship with Him. If you reject Him, claiming your own wisdom, God will not pull you by the ears into heaven.
Just know that, in rejecting God, you are accepting people that love to hurt other people, people who are safely locked away in jails as you read this. They will be free to move around in hell! I would not want to be you if you miss Christ's great love, His death on a Cross so that you can know Him! I hope you will have a good talk with God about this. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
The beaver analogy is Tyson dancing around the question. Simply put Harris was asking about intelligent civilizations roaming the galaxy and Tyson skillfully danced around NOT answering the question.
The point was that there ain’t much difference between building dames and huts to inventing rockets
I think Neil is saying that Intelligence need not be colonizing star systems because that might be a very human-centric way of understanding it
Intelligent life could be just rare enough that it's impossible to communicate, because each civilization is too far away. In fact, some scientists think we're alone in the observable universe. But if our universe as a whole is infinite or much larger than what we see, then there are other civilizations like us.
dude we seen like 0.2% of the observable universe. offcourse their are other civilizations
@@viezeman "offcourse their are other civilizations"
Baseless assumptions like that are just as wrong as saying there aren't any other civilizations out there...
We simply don't know, and there are far too many possibilities to start guessing.
It's amazing to me how people can be so sure about what they don't know. Despite the logic and number crunching of Neil and other scientist, I do not believe life is abundant or even exists elsewhere in the Universe. I know that statistically it seems like the Universe should be teeming with life, but until we find other life or at least learn how to create life from scratch, we are alone. Prove otherwise.
Until then it’s considered supernatural, showing a clear bias for science fiction and new age religions.
I believe they are are trying to find out
I sure agree, Bryan! The simple fact is that the Universe is a brutal place and is extremely hostile to life. Also, the Universe is still really young and it is entirely possible that it would take way, way, longer than 13.8 billion years for life to form and certainly for intelligent life to form- if it forms at all…..
Its on you to prove otherwise. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. It goes both ways. Given that life has been snuffed out 5 times on this planet and came back like a weed everytime, Id say the odds of life on atleast one of trillions of other planets is guranteed
@@MaloPiloto intelligent life appeared here in 1 billion years, not 13.. Life isnt young... theres red dwarfs and nebulas everywhere proving life has had ALot of oppourtunity
The universe is larger than we can understand. We have only put robots on several objects in our own system. Set foot on the moon, and launched probes. We simply don’t have enough data to know how populated the universe is.
We are working on it
An intelligent person is always alone when surrounded by fools.
I tell myself this is the case with me all the time, but I never consider that I may be the fool.
As a father i cant nothing but agree
I prefer Herris’ use of the term “Fermi problem” to Tyson’s (and most people’s) use of “Fermi paradox.” It isn’t a paradox.
It ended exactly where I thought it would end.
We that's good
@@ScottSmith-rv3yo dude where is part 2? Great video but why does it cut off like that my friend?
@@ZheDong seems you have to subscribe to hear the rest to I thinks sams poscast
Brilliant Discourse by Mr Neil and Mr Harris...it Opens out our Mind , Life and Intelligent Life exists or had existed elsewhere in the Universe...
So what was his answer in regards to the Fermi Paradox?
Separated by distances in space and time . And low chance of intelligent life
Nobody knows, really.
Watch issac Arthur’s channel. He has the answers you seek about the fermi paradox
Alone...
If you listen to many Carl Sagan lectures from decades ago, you will recognize many of the concepts "rephrased" by Tyson. You can tell he was a fan of Sagan, as he repeats a lot of the things Sagan said many years ago.
I'd imagine asteriod strikes, solar activity or even sicemic activity happens regular enough to be at least part of the great filter.
If a big enough rock is heading your way, there isn't much you can do. And I think that expecting to have come across life after only discovering 4000 exo planets just sensationalism.
Trillions of worlds, and were the only ones?
Seismic
@@vashon100 this guy searches the Internet for spelling mistakes...something to do, I guess.
Life takes very complex situations to form.
49:38 There?! That's where you decide to stop?!
Skipped over everything Neil Tyson said that was rehearsed content that he goes to in every single show he’s been on for the last 10 years.. Thus I heard only Sam Harris speak in this entire podcast.
If you have such a problem with Neil why bother watching his videos then just to make a negative bitchy comment?
That's your contribution??
@@dmssave4792 cry
The Vastness of space/time that makes the Drake Equation almost inevitable also provides plenty of space and time for humans and aliens to never cross paths, The Fermi Paradox isn't that paradoxical.
Thank you, i just learned about the fermi paradox. My thoughts, it’s wrong. First, he’s right about the timeline of rocket building and colonization but he’s wrong about the nature of civilization that do grow not just in size but also in maturation. We, earthlings, are in our infancy at a few hundred thousand years. We’re still having temper tantrums wanting toys and desserts and wanting to fight for them. War, the need to colonize because we’ve wasted current natural resources, not knowing how to balance births and deaths rates, etc. We’re sitting on a branch if an apple tree and sawing it off from the tree (global warming) so we can eat our fill of all the apples on the branch. Immaturity is all it is. We’ll mature when we would have nearly destroyed ourselves not in theory but in fact. An advanced civilization such as one with the capability to transverse solar systems or parallel universes would’ve matured by that time. And probably faced the same problems as we currently face and got past it. An advance civilization would not need to colony, but to study as scientists would. To learn, possibly welcome us into the life collective species. But only when they feel we’re ready, but we aren’t now (hell, we’ve already shot an alien space craft). Shoot first, think later, we’re already seen too many alien movies to be rational. Any alien species developed enough to study us has developed far beyond the childish behaviors earthlings are prone to have.
We will suffer an extinction event long before we discover another civilization or “mature”
WE ARE NOT ALONE! I have numerous video and picture proofs on my iPhone, (triple saved) from a 2 week period in 2020. My attorney advised me to stay quiet, as well as many others including the DOD. I promise however, I will let the world see my experiences with this, whatever it is, and judge for themselves one day.
It's mathematically impossible for us to be alone in the universe, when you add infinity to the math. The math is correct and broken at the same time. You have to limit the math to get finite math, instead of infinite and then we run into the problem we don't actually have any data to create math from.
Infinite math is just crazy, it allows for an infinite number of identical earths, with an identical copy of you, me and everyone else on it, but the "problem" is that we will never see those other earths, so do they exist beyond what infinity math say?
(The core of multiverse is non identical, there would be one universe where Sam says yes to marry Tyson and one he said no. Though that can lead to periods of non-identical universes leading back to identical. If they avoid having kids together or separately, that could still lead to a merging of universes, because without kids it clearly wouldn't matter if Sam or Tyson existed.)
Infinity does not imply repetition or even similarities in the members of the set. Basic example in the counting numbers are infinite yet there are no repeated numbers
Time and space has proven we are alone in the universe!
@@5rings16 A meaningless statement.
@@Living_Matrix1 No, its true. The universe has utterly failed to get our attention! Its dead! 13 billion years and not a single flash of light designated to get anyones attention that we can tell.
@@5rings16 We just don't know.
It's not just where are they, but *when* are they? Perhaps the universe is full of the dust of dead civilisations, their histories long gone.
If a rabbit pooped in the Amazon Rainforest the size of just one of those turds is equivalent to the volume of our universe into which our radio waves have traveled, if the forest represents our universe. [Disclosure: The comparison really is not to scale. It would take our entire galaxy compared to the little rabbit turd to really get closer to the actual geometrical juxtaposition involved but people have a better intuitive sense of a rabbit turd next to the Amazon than to the Milky Way Galaxy. I think.
Shut up
Ah, the Turd Theary.
Stop waiting for aliens to come and solve all of your problems.
ok.
"Alone" can mean either (a) there's no E.T out there, or (b) there's E.T. but it's so distant that it's beyond any chance of contact.
I'd guess (b) is much more likely than (a). Even if a smart E.T. were living within a few hundred light years of us, conversation would be virtually impossible.
2 Trillion known Galaxies in the Universe and possibly more ,,of course there is
Finding any is as likely as winning the lottery, possibly even less when you consider how weak telescopes are at detecting anything beyond a thousand light years away from us.
@@douche8980 its all about the laws of average and the arrogance of man to think we are so special
2 Trillion ? the last news about this subject was this: " There are between 200-250 Trillion galaxies in the Universe... " :)))
@@huhuruz77 that is the observable universe which is likely either infinitely small compared to the actual size or so small you'd need nested stack of power towers of ten starting with a single tower of ten to it's own own exponent dozens of times over to even come close to showing the size difference.
A Planck length is about a Graham's number times closer to the known universe than the known universe is to the actual size and this is a rough estimate at that. There is likely several hundred arrows in knuth notation between two tens to express the number of star systems and planets in the entire universe. And there is likely other universes out there either an infinite distance away from our own or seperated into circular bubbles as the common multiverse hypothesis would suggest.
@@huhuruz77 wow really ?
Short answer: We don’t know.
When you take into account the unimaginable size of the known universe, a universe in which our estimation of the number of galaxies multiplies by the thousands year by year. It is within the obvious that there are likely over 200 billion galaxies. That number billions, not a couple but 200 billion, a number that has a better chance of reaching into the trillions then maintaining the latest estimate. Now the number of planets in the universe is beyond our ability to comprehend. Even if the percentage of habitable planets is in the .0001 range that still leaves a number in the trillions of planets able to support life. A tiny percentage of these planets with intelligent life hovers in the 100s of billions. There is intelligent life spread all over the universe, some long gone, some just beginning ( earth being one of the youngest ). That said, understanding the distance between one galaxy to another the chance of intelligent life being aware of any other is highly improbable. Those that have most certainly haven't existed in common technically advanced time periods. Civilizations were and are abundant, even though the nearest being still thousands of light years away. Searching is a waste of time and money. Conduct our explorations for our selfish desires and if at some period we do make contact it would be an conscious altering bonus. Hey guys it's not going to happen this century. One last thought, when you consider the number of planets existing now, before and still to form should there actually be intelligent civilizations in the billions these are civilizations that are a rarity in a universe where planets number in the trillions of trillions, what's after trillions, um quadrillion. A few hundred million is a very very small percentage. We and our 200 billion distant neighbors are a rarity indeed.
then where are they ?
Once you understand how unimaginably vast is the universe, not only in space but also time. Then you'll have a better idea of the extreme improbability that inhabitants of one world will ever make contact with another. Not only the near impossible distance but again think of the billions of years. A good place to start is to put science fiction aside and don't take movies like Star Wars and Star Trek seriously, neither one has anything to do with reality. I'd recommend viewing pictures taken from Hubble and the recently launched James Webb space telescopes.
@@ronaldronca6060 So if these planets have billions of years on us , they must be far more advanced than us , correct ?
They are everywhere
@@jimmymags6516 Depends on how life evolved there. An amoeba wont build a space-ship before us, no matter how much time he is given.
We have no idea: literally the only correct answer.
Most honest and simple answer.
Isn't one group of human species enough for any universe, hopefully were alone, just look at the state of the planet and the misery we cause on it for man and beast..
Hopefully other intelligent life would be more humane ????
yes. and no. we cause misery. and we are the only species investing time, money, and effort into a bunch of good things. F.e. we train vets, who then save unrelated animals of other species. We are the worst AND the best.
@@istvansipos9940 more so the worst I'd say.
"They didn't pull silicon out of their ass." 😆
Intelligent life capable of communication is in all likelihood pretty rare and time/space distances involved make meetings of these sparks in the vast dark emptiness not that probable
Alone, probably not, considering the whole universe. Effectively alone, probably so.
Yeah but you assume so much saying it. How big is the universe? We have no idea. What technologies could these alien races have discovered allowing faster than light travel? We don't know. How long have they and other aliens have had to survey the universe for intelligent life? We don't know. Its entirely plausible that these races have seen a good portion of the universe, and even seen us, but chose not to interfere in our development. There are lots of possibilities. We can't really assume any of them, or claim one is more probable than the other
@@radscorpion8 True. But if they chose not to interfere then we are again "effectively alone"
We will have to see what the future holds.
@@ScottSmith-rv3yo Hope they come soon :)
Yes, I agree with "No A.i." who posted below, that distance is the key obstacle for discovering us or us them. Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. The fanciful ideas of somehow using black holes or worm holes are science fiction conveniences, used to circumvent the light-speed reality. There could be other civilizations, but they would be caught in the same limitations.
NDGT is legend. Michio Kakalaku should learn how to be a scientist from him because he’s been spreading a lot of nonsense lately and forgot he is actually a scientist that draws a lot of attention. He’s very irresponsible.
I'm surprised Michio has said some of the things he's said without having access to critical information, which he clearly does not have.
The most prominent example is, of course, his comments on Rogan's podcast about UAPs. Without RADAR data--and hopefully more than that, but that would be a great start--he has no business making the claims he made.
Michio Kaku is a very accomplished scientist. What nonsense has he spoken?
I've seen other beings crafts up close many times. They monitored me and didn't even try to hide it. They came to my home also and done stuff when I was asleep or trying to sleep. This went on for around 5ish years, between around 2014ish and 2019ish then stopped as sudden as it all started. I saw then many times though. These video are very frustrating because I know so much more then them and yet I will always be viewed as a crazy person, yet I am light years ahead of those who think I am crazy or mistaken, because I saw them and they came to me.
Speculation is that there's a connection between UFO sightings / abductions and the NDE/OBE phenomena. This is based on subjective experiences. I have experienced it myself. And yes, I know there's no scientific evidence for this, so hard care materialist folk need not chime in and state the obvious.
This is bait right?
When Tyson speaks about any other science than cosmology… he is clueless
I would not say he is clueless.
Are you a flat earther?
No I don't think that's entirely false. I never heard his opinion on French toast. Or cotton versus argyle socks.
you're better read than he is ?
@@ScottSmith-rv3yo I would not say he is clueless but perhaps a better word is that he "misspeaks" too often? I once heard him malign the human reproductive system/organs and digestive-excretory-system/organs as poorly designed due to their location on our bodies, their close proximity, and that they were multi-functioning.
Well from an engineering perspective (I am an engineer) the design of those aforementioned systems is genius. Every engineer's goal is to design, economically, a multifunctional (mostly)self-cleaning, (mostly)self-repairing highly essential machine that is a major irreplaceable part of a larger system.
I really wish I was in the audience when he was giving that talk. I would have asked him if he can come up with something better.
The part I digress is where he talks about intelligence not being an inevitability. That’s possible, but equally possible that the opposite is true, due to the fact that like he argues, complex life simply hasn’t been around a long time, and I expand on that by saying that perhaps it has not been around long enough to make that determination. We haven’t had enough time in the present time-frame to know either way really, IMO. Had the asteroid never hit Earth and Dinosaurs never went extinct, had they been subjected to the same climate conditions that gave rise to us, it isn’t unreasonable to presume that one of them would have evolved to have advanced intelligence as well.
You are actually not far off, what you are talking about actually kind of happened, dinosaurs didn't go extinct, one group of dinosaur survived, birds. The smartest birds even rival the intelligence of chimps and other smart primates. So yes dinosaurs did evolve quite big intelligences. You should look up corvids and their incredible problem solving skills.
Avi Loeb called Tyson a non thinker doesn't think outside the box no curiosity. hasn't had any research of significan and a celeb not a real scientist. I concur with his observations.
Yeah I agree with you, however Neil has a huge audience. He's always talking about and popularizing science to the world, that's really important too. The dude recruits, you can't take that away from him
@@veryprofessionaldude7653 recruits non thinkers? People that want to be told how to think as it is the lazy way. Could say it's better than nothing but actually just stifles critical thinking
@@kayhawkins5925 dude, you just pulled an argument from authority "Avi Loeb said, so I'm going to defend it blindly and not take a valid criticism" if that's not non-thinking I don't know what is. Also it's not like Neil hasn't published, all you need to do is type his name in Google Scholar and you'll see he's been involved in dozens of publications. Practice what you preach and think for yourself.
@@veryprofessionaldude7653 no noteworthy publications. He is celeb with no real weight a pundit. You can love him and listen. He would be in over his head in any debate with Ave Loeb and most other scientists that think outside the box. Tyson is just one of many skeptics and it is far easier to criticise or debunk rather than do the work . No real research or science based data or papers just writes to write nothing earth shattering or mind blowing
@@kayhawkins5925 oh, and you've read all of those papers? Again, just taking Avi's word as gospel without checking it out for yourself. Tbf, you're right, that's the first thing I even said. But of course Avi's going to do more hard science than Niel, Avi is at Harvard and Neil is the director of a planetarium for the public. No shit there's going to be a disparity, they've dedicated their lives to wholly different pursuits. Avi's to research, Neil's to science communications with the public. Both are valuable, that's all I'm saying
The reason we never hear from other civilizations seems obvious if you understand the concept of deep time. Civilizations probably have lifespans, however long. Even long lived civilizations surely pale next to the scale of the deep time of the universe in general. Civilizations flit by like sparks in a campfire... and we expect to see each other?
True enough....it is mind boggling vast and dangerous beyond our atmosphere....
I thought a drone was something that flies in the sky, yet today I learned that they speak on the internet.
And yet they got 4.7 thousand likes and you got 2………
"Are we any different from beavers?" is silly. Beavers dam building is amazing, but they do it instinctively in response to the sound of running water. They are born knowing how to do it, though they appear to learn stuff by watching as well. Each human has the capacity to learn any of the myriad skills we have invented. The powers we evolved were a brain that can imagine and plan, language, opposable thumbs, hips and feet made for running, etc. The rest of what got us to the moon was invented. Beavers have invented very little.
I know I like snuggling my face into beavers 🦫 makes me feel dam good 👍 ☺️
Most humans don't have such capability though.
Great conversation but, bummer!! I was so looking forward to hearing Neil's point of view on that last topic!!
Good listen. Thanks.
Suppose... that life formed elsewhere BUT never developed the need to seek resources? What if an "advanced" civilization never developed capital, Social order, greed, never squandered resources. Perhaps never thought to develop long distance communication? What if we need to not just think of where life could be supported, but also to not hang out own failures and fears on it. What if they are so dissimilar, that "life" may not even be the right term for them?
I see where you're going with this but we still can't compare our life on earth to any other.
The minute we discover bacterial life on other planets then perhaps we can call ourselves "advanced". 😁
This is from June what year???????????????
Are we alone? It doesn't matter. It doesn't change anything. If the Earth is flat doesn't change how we should live our lives.
Interesting,Thank You.
Another great video. You are smart and pretty. I love it.
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The books sound interesting but I have zero time for conspiratorial conservatives.
A love for non-reality, it seems.