I agree. Even though I’d prefer a wheel under 62mm, they’re still a great outdoor wheel! And 85a is such a happy medium for street/sidewalk without feeling too slowed down like you would with an even softer wheel.
woaww, so far the best review video, that I have watched, based on real experiences. There are some videos out there , they show unpacked wheels in 2 mins as a “review” video, ridiculous. Thank you so much, now I know what to buy 🎉
Aww awesome! They're fantastic wheels to learn control on! And especially if your local rink is on the slick side or if you'll be outside on a tennis court type surface. :) Enjoy!
I just came upon this video today. Thank you for sharing your experience. As someone who is getting ready to start her own skating journey, you definitely helped me see the importance of pairing your wheels with the right surface. I am also glad you included video footage of you using each of the wheel so we can see what you are talking about. And now thanks to you I now have some wheel options to consider for myself so thank you again for sharing. I can't wait to get my skates so I can get started.
I bounce around! I’m mostly just at Branch Brook in Newark and Trenton Sk8s these days (@trentonsk8s on IG- it’s the session I run and teach at), but at least a couple times a month I end up at other spots too :) I love that we have so many options!
You have inspired me to change my wheels! Believe it or not, I was still on 78a gummy... *hides face* but I think before I skate indoor again I will change them! Oh and great video!!!
It will make a world of difference when you do! I'd maybe go with Rollerbones 98a Team wheels to start. But no shame.. I had those gummies on too when I started lol Once you have a smaller/lighter wheel you'll realize how darn heavy those are haha! And thank you!!!
Thank you for this video! The info on what types of wheels work best outside vs inside is exactly what I was looking for. And I really appreciate all the details you gave, plus the visual examples.
Sounds like me. I started back skating in July 2017 after a 20-year hiatus. Took quite a bit of experimenting and changing wheels/bearings/skates but now I'm good and getting better every session.
Hi! I found your video in a reddit thread and hopped on over here for one quick question. I am a rollerdancer. My teacher/mentor is Richard Humphrey. We mostly skate outdoors and, honestly, for all my outdoor and indoor skate needs (always on smooth surfaces) the Rollerbones Bee One Legend Wheels (57mm 98a) have been a DREAM! I drill every day at home too. We recently moved and in our new place the floors are CRAZY slippery. The 88a Radar Crush wheels are perfect, except for one thing... I hate switching over from them to my Rollerbones when in class and then back to the Radar Crush at home, because the wheels, size aside, feel so different are far as weight distribution etc and maneuverability when it comes to rollerdancing. I still highly prefer the Rollerbones and my dream would be Rollerbones wheels at 57mm 88a durometer for my home floors. However, they don't make them that soft and that size. SO.... all my googling made me consider the Sonar Zen (though 85a might be a tad too soft for my floors cause I also have the Radar Crush 84a wheels and they are too soft and bouncy for me). They are bigger than I'd like but I'd consider shaving them down to 57mm if so. How do you find the durometer to be/feel? And as far as wheel shape/feel/edges for dancing? Any thoughts you. might have on them would be super helpful! Thank you!
@@MizBoheMia What about the Radar Crush wheels? They’re 48mm and 88a I believe. I think there are a few other out there that are 57mm or under and 88a. I agree that the Sonar Zen are too big. Mine wore down quite a bit from street skating during Covid but they’re still bigger than what I like.
Thank you for this video! It was major helpful. I got my new indoor setup yesterday that has roller bones 98a 57s. They said not to use outside but your video showing use on smooth surfaces means I can hold off on another gummy set for now. Can’t wait to try them. Love your content!
Thanks for watching and glad it was helpful! 😊 And yes.. smooth surface outside, the bones 98a wheels will be perfect. I much prefer them to a softer wheel for tennis courts, basketball courts and such. What wheels you choose for what can really depend on the style of skating you intend to do as well- if you’re doing dance/rhythm skating then harder wheels are almost always the way to go! ✨
I love the scene where you are skating on the path through a forested area. I have 70mm wheels, very soft for path skating. I still am very careful of anything that can stop my wheel. And you are wearing legwarmers on the tennis court! Awesome.
Glad it helped! And omg it took a lot of bumps and bruises to get my pivots to where they are today, but it was worth it! Hope you like the Rollerbones. I think they're really great wheels for both inside and out :)
I love my Sonar Energy !!! for outdoor street ---- o . o. o. - you mentioned using the sonar on vinyl >>>>> which is what I use for a practice floor -- I thought I was being a whiner, but you found the same situation -- toooo sticky !!! ahhhhhh .... so, I have my fingers crossed I will get the slide/less resistance with my new ( just delivered ) American Dream...,..you are a wealth of knowledge, I so appreciate your sharing this information.......
Glad the video was helpful and reassuring too haha! Yeah, the Sonar Zens are a pretty sticky wheel. Good for rough surfaces but too sticky for anything smooth. American Dreams will be a BIG change from those! Curious how you like them once you try them out!
I'm actually running 101As 57mm now. Not indoors, at a skatepark. I haven't fallen so much in the last year! XD It's pretty exciting getting the chance to learn all over again.
This is a great video! Probably the best wheel video I’ve seen. I’m about 7 months into skating and have started to figure out my wheel preferences and am getting accustomed to harder wheels. I also like small wheels. Right now I really love my Moxi Fundae wheels outside and at the skate park, and Sure Grip Fames for indoors. I think I’m going to get some Team wheels to use on smooth outdoor surfaces in the next few months when I’m ready to level up outside. Radar Energy 57s are my favorite for rough outdoors and trails. My least favorite wheel are my Luminous 85A 62mm, but they’re awful pretty!
Thank you!! :) So the Rollerbones 98a 57mm wheels are probably very similar in feel to the Moxi Fundae wheels as far as hardness goes. However, unlike the Fundaes, they're not rounded on the edges, meaning you'll get cleaner pivots and such- better for dance or very intricate footwork. I skate trails with 85a, but otherwise I always use a harder wheel. The partner skate video I just published today, I'm outside on a tennis court type concrete surface using my very hard vanathane wheels :) Def play around with different setups! I have noticed that once people adjust to harder wheels they rarely go back though haha!
Great video, this is very informative and useful information. I agree 100% with your opinion. You are spot-on in which way the wheels react with all the different pavement types. Thanks for such a nice break down on the wheels.
I started with original All American Plus wheels but gave them away..Since then Bones 98a, 101a,103a i havent used yet, and now I ride Riva 98a with Roll Line bearings...It takes time to dial in the trucks and wheels, to see which surfaces work better..
The surface definitely plays a role! Some wood floors are much slicker then others, and outdoors you find so many different textures in cement and asphalt. I pretty exclusively use vanathane unless it’s as rough as, say, a road paved in last 6 months. For that I’d probably use 98a. Those wheels you had… they were the vintage All Americans? If so, skaters treat those like gold! 😍
So helpful! I’m currently using the Sonar Zen 62 85a! Still learning but just ordered the Moxi trick wheel 55 97a for the rink! This was so helpful! Oh and I kept my gummies for trail skating
Realized now that I ever replied to this! How do you like the trick wheels? They’d be too rounded on the edges for me personally (better for carving a bowl I’d think) but I’m sure it really depends on your skate style. I like a crisp edge on wheels for control when doing footwork :)
@@RollingInTuneTV thanks for the response. Honestly I’m not seasoned enough to know the difference and I’m still learning about wheels. I think I made a mistake with investing in too many wheels before knowing what they are used/good for. I do like the lighter feel of the wheel but a jam skater is working with me and he’s getting me the small vanathane wheels you mentioned. I recently got the American Plus wheels but he said the ones he can get his hands on are smaller and better 🤷🏽♀️ I’m sure as I continue to learn foot work and different skills I will start to understood why certain wheels are preferred over others!
@@MsLashun The vanathane wheels were all originally around 57-59mm, but typically, since they're vintage, they've been cut down such that they have edges again. Most of us roll around a 52-55mm wheel if on vanathane, but I've seen people go even smaller. The clincher being, if you go TOO small, your king pin could potentially hit the ground and break. So just make sure your king pin has at least a few millimeters of floor clearance, and a whole lot more if you roll them outside (in case you roll over debris). Smaller (as in under 57mm) is definitely better for rhythm skating! And the vanathane really is the perfect slip/grip ration for it. The vintage ones are very similar to the All Americans in feel, just they wear better over time. The All Americans feel like they dissolve into nothing before your eyes lol - Hope you enjoy them!!
Great video! When I first got my Lollies I immediately switched from the Gummy wheels to the 57mm Rollerbones 98a for rink skating and never looked back. When rinks closed due to pandemic I switched to the Radar 57mm, which I felt was a happy medium between the Gummies and Rollerbones Team wheel. I liked having the similar profile and dimensions of the Team wheels but in a softer composition for outdoors.
Thanks! And everything you wrote makes good sense. Pretty much the same path as me, just when I got the Sonar Zens for outside I don't think Radar Energies were a thing yet, and even if they were, I wasn't yet in 57mm so I didn't know the difference lol! I will definitely be getting a set once they're not out of stock.. I want 57mm for outside badly!!
I have Moxi lolly’s , and I’m getting some indoor rollerbones but what nuts and which brand bearings do you recommend. I gave the powerdyne nylon thrust plate do I also need washers ? Any help would be great
@@CloudsInMyCoffee69 I'd recommend Bones Reds for the bearings. You'll need 16, meaning two per wheel. Also, be sure to get 8mm. You don't need nuts or washers.. the nuts that are currently on the wheels are what you'll use, and I had that set up for ages without washers. Never bad to have a set of washers though.. you may need them in the future! :)
Hey greatttttt video I watched it all and it was helpful! I am looking to get some Vanathanes as to I am a freestyle /rhythmic/ artistic style skater, can you provide me the link to purchasing a pair or tell me where you got them? Also what is your take on sure grip velvet wheels I was told they are like vanathanes? Lastly, I am in fomacs how would you say the 2 compare ?
So the vanathane wheels I use right now are vintage and these days are hard to come by. I’ve seen some pop up on eBay and Instagram but you kinda just gotta know someone. This said, you can get current day All American Plus wheels on Amazon and they’ll feel roughly the same as the orange ones- they’ll just wear down faster. Velvets are essentially just All American Plus in pretty colors 😁 They ARE vanathane. Just vintage vanathane had asbestos in it. The new ones do not. Fomacs are notably slicker and harder than vanathane wheels. At my current weight (about 140lbs), I can’t hold a tight edge at speed on Fomacs without sliding out- they just don’t provide enough grip for how I like to skate. Vanathane wheels seem to be the happy medium of slip and grip for me (and most who skate primarily NY/NJ style).
Thank you for sharing your set up and wheels with us! I appreciate learning from you! 🥰 Edit: I'm excited to learn more about your trucks' angles too. I'm getting motivated to customize my Lollys and I already have bought 4 sets of wheels. I love the Roller Bones Teams 98A 57mms, but I still find I'm not getting the agility even after changing to them and softer cushions. You're inspiring me to make the investment!😁
Roll Line plates aren’t cheap, but they are soooo worth it!! The Giottos I believe are maybe a 20 degree angle? Not sure. All I remember is they’re NOT a 10 or a 45. I use the soft grey cushions on them. I also went about a half centimeter shorter for the wheel base on these, which at the start changes your balance points a bit, but overall aided in agility, and gave me tons of space to get on my toes when dancing :) I’ll do a video review of them soon!
@@RollingInTuneTV Thank you for explaining your plates! I've been wondering what angle would be a good investment because plates are pricey. As a beginner, I can relate to learning outside because of the pandemic. I was only able to skate in a rink the day I bought my skates, March 1st! I really appreciate that you're sharing your experience and wisdom with us. I know it motivates and inspires me to keep learning!🥰
@@shimmypolkaroo Aww yay! It means so much to hear I’ve inspired someone! 🥰 Hopefully you’ll be able to get back into a rink soon! What is your current skate setup?
Super review and discussion! Have you seen anyone using Roll Line artistic wheels in the rink? They very hard and thin and I'm wondering if they're comparable to vintage Vanathanes.
Thank you so much for all this great experience and info!!! I totally love your skate style!!!! I’ve been playing around with wheel hardness but I think I’ve still been too soft for the outdoor basketball and tennis courts i’m skating in to do more dance moves, I just want to flow like you! I’m still getting the fundamentals and muscles but I’m hoping some RB 98a 57’s will do the trick!!! 🎉🎉 I also have some radar 57’s waiting to be tested, I’m curious about when you’d use those? 🤩😻💖
Thanks so much! Happy to share what I've learned along the way! I bet you'll love the RB 98a wheels for tennis courts. To me, it's the perfect wheel for those conditions. If I had Radar Energies I'd use them in the places you see me using the Sonar Zens in this video. I know they're softer, which I may or may not like, but I'm sure I'd be more comfortable on a 57mm wheel. I just really wish more wheel companies would put out an 85a in 57mm. No idea why this is something that's hard to find!
@@RollingInTuneTV thank you so much!!! Lol, I did happen to find some Crazy Illumin8s that are 58mm/85a but I got those strictly because they are soooooooo cool as light up wheels!!! 🤩🤩 I cant wait to try out all these wheels and focus more on some dance steps!!! 👏👏💖💖
@@saramcgrath4011 oh wow, didn’t even know those light up ones existed in 58mm! See my concern with myself for that particular set of wheels would be the width. I’m used to something narrow... around 31mm... wondering how wide those are!
@@RollingInTuneTV they’re so fun and cute!! I was worried they might be a little too small for me! Haha!! I believe they are 32mm width with a 25mm surface area 🎉🎉 I finally had to make myself a chart 😂 and was comparing surface area to the monster moxis!! Lol!! I had those once and loved them!!
Thanks a lot for the review! I have similar roll line plates, have you ever tried fitting normal size cushions on them - I thought that in terms to do this I have to raise the lower nut on the pin since normal cushions are shorter… I find their native yellow cushions too stiff…
@@RosssRoyce I don’t think there’s any reason to use “normal” cushions. They’re not really interchangeable between most brands. Roll Line has their own cushions made to fit their hardware. My plates came with the grey cushions but I changed them to the clear blue ones bc I needed them to be harder. The grey was too soft for my weight (about 140lbs).
@@RollingInTuneTV thank you for responding ! Also his do I know what bearings and bearings mm for which wheel? For instance the roller bones 101a what size bearings ?
@@CloudsInMyCoffee69 The bearing size is dependent upon your plate and not your wheels. Any wheels will fit any size bearings since the bearing size is actually the size of the hole (where the axle goes through) and not the outer diameter. What kind of skates do you have? The plate on them will have either 7mm or 8mm axles. Bearings come in those 2 sizes.
Can you do a video on how you spin while rolling? I can transition from front to back super smoothly but don’t know what to do with my feet to continue the rotation while rolling.
One other factor would be the shape of the edge. If you run tight trucks, having a rounded edge helps make things smoother, less clunky. If you run looser, square edges are fine
Interesting point! I really only see park skaters running rounded edge wheels. Indoor skaters pretty much all use the squared edge ones, though of course with use any square wheel will eventually become rounded!
@@RollingInTuneTV It was!!! One more question….lol! For a somewhat newbie doing mainly indoor/rink skating, would you recommend the 57mm or 62mm. I’m def trying the 98a and I like the rollerbones….but not sure what size I should go with….my stock skates (sure grip fame) have 57mm…..and I tried some 62mm 101a but I think they were too fast for me…at least now… Sorry for paragraph! I appreciate your insight and time!
@@awhite286 No problem! I prefer 57mm or even smaller for the style I skate. I’m much more agile with a smaller wheel. Larger wheels are great for speed. If you’re looking to dance/do precision footwork, I’d go with 57mm for sure!
I have the Radar Energy 57mm and they're very grippy! I like using them outdoors to practice spins and more agile moves because the pavement and asphalt where I live are AWFUL and the softness smoothes them out. But they might be a little too grippy for dance skating even outdoors, unless your asphalt is as awful as it is here lol
Yeah, I've been concerned about that too. Usually I'm not dancing unless it's quite smooth, which is why I haven't raced to get a set already, though.. So really I only use the 85a wheels for trail skate type settings. Whenever I do finally buy a set (probably in spring when I can skate outside again!), I'll do a review video of them!
New subscriber here. Found you by pure coincidence, and you’re the first quad skater I’ve found in my neck of the woods. Any chance you’d be willing to give lessons to a totally new skater?
Hi Robin- thanks for the note! I’d be honored to teach you. :) I do give lessons weekly and would be happy to share locations/times/pricing etc. You can message me via Instagram (I’m @rollingintune) or at the same name @ gmail. 🙏🏼❤️
Yes, any skate bearing will work with any wheel :) The only factor to consider is if you change the plates on your skates. Some plates take 7mm bearings and others take 8mm bearings. But either size bearing fits in any wheel.
Hi, Thank you for going over all these size wheels! Love your skating! I have a pair of Roller Bones 57mmx 98a on back order till May, My skates are Crazy Skates w/ stock wheels. I roller skate on a indoor basketball court. (Thank God I’m able to have it to myself)! I’m 63 yrs old. The stock wheels are feeling clunky. I haven’t roller skated in 53 yrs! I’m worried that the Roller Bones 57mm x 98a might be too fast for me. Should I go towards a softer wheel in Roller Bones or try a different brand? Looking forward to your input. Thanks so much!
I think you should be fine with the 98a wheels! 98a isn't really considered a very hard wheel and has quite a bit of grip to it. Like any change, it will take some getting used to. Definitely give them a few weeks and see how you feel before considering switching things up again :) And thank you!! Lots of hours on the wood with lots of awesome mentors to get my skating where it is now!
This video is great! What kind of plate do you have, is it good for rhythm skating, I’d like to upgrade from the stock plate on my Lollies. Also, your pivot turn/ three turn is awesome... do you have a tutorial on that? Thanks!!
Thanks! I'm on a Roll Line Giotto plate. I have a Moxi Lolly size 6 boot and the plate is size 140, so it's on the short side, meaning lots of space in the front to get on my toes. Also worth noting, this is a NTS plate (no toe stop), meaning there's not even a place for a plug. So you need to be pretty dedicated to dance if you go with this, since you have no option for a stopper haha! I believe the Roll Line Mistral is the same plate but WITH a toe plug spot though I'm not positive. I've had a half done pivot/three turn tutorial on my phone for about 2 months now!!! I gotta finish that thing! You're one of maybe 8 people who have asked me to do a tutorial on those! I promise I'll get to it eventually! :) :) :)
Very informative video! You mentioned having had Rollerbones 101a 62mm wheels but really didn't say much about them other than you switched to 98a 57mm. How do the two compare to each other? Did you not care for the 101a 62mm? I typically skate 98a 62mm in the rink. I find them fast but not particularly agile. I tried 98a 57mm a couple weeks back. They were more maneuverable than the 62mm but slower. I'm wondering if the 101a 57mm would feel even more agile? I want to get better at dance moves, but my skate setup feels overly heavy to me. I have older leather Riedells with Powerdyne Triton plates. I want to make changes to make them lighter. Suggestions please. Thanks!
So, when I went from 62mm 98a to the All Americans (which are about 55mm or so), I really loved both the size and the slide I could get on them. I didn't have 57mm 98a at all until I later bought a set for outdoors. I did at one point try a friend's 57mm 101a wheels for comparison sake, but I preferred the All American/vanathane wheels. The 101a felt sticky compared to vanathane. A smaller, slicker wheel will def feel more agile, so I'm sure 57mm 101a will be better than 57mm 98a, but based on you wanting to do dance moves, I'd recommend a vanathane wheel over the bones! As for plates, I love my Roll Line Giottos. They're quite light, partly because they don't have a spot for a toe stop in front. Really, any Roll Line plate is great from what I hear.
@@Astrobishop hmm… I think you could probably force them in. Any skate bearing should be able to fit any skate wheel, just with hard vanathane wheels it can take a whole lot of force to get the bearing in. I HATE changing bearings in vanathane wheels bc even with a press it takes some serious muscle and my hands are usually aching by the end!
Sure do! :) I’d taken a nearly 20 year break myself.. Got skates again at 39 and started up consistently at age 40. About to be 46 now. DM me on IG! Happy to set up a lesson! @rollingintune 😊
Honestly? I really don’t like those wheels for that reason!! I use vintage wheels when I’m able to get my hands on them bc they aren’t as porous and therefore don’t collect as much grime. This said, I’ve soaked them in hot soapy water then used used a copper scouring pad. This usually does the trick.
I agree- I’d save the vanathanes for inside. If your daughter skates ramps I don’t have a knowledge opinion on wheels though, since I’ve only skated a park maybe 5 times :) but Rollerbones are great for skating in general on smooth cement. You can’t go too wrong with them I don’t think.
I use the rollerbones 98a but they still seem too sticky.. Do you know anything about the atom tone wheels or should I go harder for a little bit more slide? Using them at @bbp rink
I’m not familiar with the Atom Tone wheels. I use vanathane wheels at BBP. I think most of the dedicated long term BBP skaters are on vanathane, fomacs, Rollerbones 101 or 103, or something equally hard and slick. :) I would def find 98a to be too sticky for how I skate. Maybe scoop up a set of All America Plus or Suregrip Velvets to see how they feel, or even borrow some from someone for a session. What days do you usually skate there? I’m generally only there Sunday nights but every now and again I may show up for a Tuesday or Thursday! Love me some BBP...
@@RollingInTuneTV I've been going on Mons for quite a while. I was intimidated by adult nights initially but I just went Tues and it was nice. I def thought about the sure grip velvets but I didn't want to jump too quickly while I'm working on my basics.
@@UrFavBlkLacedSheep Tuesdays are pretty chill at BBP as far as adult sessions go! Def a good mix of levels and styles represented. So I’d say just bite the bullet and get some Velvets. Even if you try them and end up feeling like you’re not ready yet, eventually you WILL be ready so they won’t go to waste! Hmu on IG if you ever plan to make it out on a Sunday! I’m @rollingintune. Sometimes I teach lessons at the Sunday 5:30pm family sesh too ✨
Yes, they do. And they should fit in the velvets as well. 8mm is the size of the hole that the axle goes through, not the outer diameter of the bearing itself. So a 7mm bearing will fit the same in the wheel as an 8mm will (just won't fit on your skates!). The reason it feels like they don't fit is because vanathane is quite hard. It's going to take more pressure to push that bearing into the wheel since the wheel doesn't "give" at all. I haven't tried it, but I've heard that if you warm the wheels up a bit that the bearings go in a more easily- worth a shot!
Question, So Im More Of A 3-4 Year Rink Speed Experienced Skater, But Ive Never Had My Own Skates, Only Tuned Rink Skates To My Liking. For Speed/Roller Dance What Size Radar or Sonar Wheel Would Be The Best And Which Exact One?
For dance, Sonar Radar doesn't make an indoor wheel to my liking. For dance a wheel of 57mm or under is ideal and those only come in 62mm. There also too soft for indoor use. Speed is a whole other animal and I'm not the person to ask about that since it's not the style I skate, however generally speaking, a bigger wheel with more surface area will provide greater speeds. Hope that helps!
Having a hard time with deciding between the bones 98 a and the 101 a.. skated on all Americans long ago..just getting back into the groove..what do you think..lol
Honestly, it really depends on rink surface.. if it's on the sticky side, go with 101a or All Americans. If it doesn't have much grip, then you may want to go with 98a to start. Eventually, if you stick with it long term, you're going to end up with an entire shelf worth of wheels like the rest of us! It's really just trial and error and personal preference in the end. :)
I got some velvets awhile back, and they felt kinda weird. Like they were “slipping” within their roll sometimes. I asked the rink a manger what she thought and she put in some spacers between the bears and that helped. But still the roll just felt off. And I used to skate with these back in the late seventies! Coming back to skating after 20 years. What types of wheels do you recommend for cement/poly coated floor? Thanks.
So I generally keep my vanathane wheels on for just about any smooth surface (wood, cement, pavement, etc), only changing my wheels to something softer if I were to do a true street or trail skate (then I’d either go with 98a or 85a depending just how rough it is). If you’re not feeling the Velvets, which are essentially the same as what I us (they’re vanathane too), then maybe try Rollerbones 101a 57mm wheels. I’ve never owned a set of the 101a Elites but I tried them once and they were super smooth- just a bit stickier than what I like. If you’re finding the Velvets are slipping, you may love the Rollerbones! Obviously I know nothing of your skate level, but one piece of advice for skating a small slick wheel like the Velvets: take small steps, keep feet relatively close together and stay over your skates! Use lots of knee bend to keep your weight above your wheels. Do this and you may find you’ll be slipping less :)
Hi, I just got rollerbones team wheels 98a 62mm and when I put them on my rookie skates (which I just got as well) the trucks (idk if that’s what I’m talking about) but when I tighten the nut down tight and un tight it so the wheel with smoothly slide the trucks stick out the wheel. Is it okay for my to add washers in before I place the wheel to take up some space?
So, if you can screw the nut all the way down until the wheel doesn't wobble but spins freely without resistance, then you don't need washers, even if the axle sticks out beyond the wheel. However, if you can't screw the nut down sufficiently and the wheel is wobbling on the axle, than absolutely add washers on the axle before putting the wheel on. I've skated setups where I needed washers and setups where I did not, so it really depends on the combination of both the plate and wheel. Hope that helps! :)
@@RollingInTuneTV yes it really does thank you so much! The only reason why I added washers was because when the axle was sticking out and I was skating they slammed each other so I added like 3 or 4 washers before putting the wheel on but I didn’t know if having too many washers was like recommended or not.
That’s because they can not be rated on the “A” durometer scale because they are not a urethane or rubber material. They are made of a material called vanathane and feel and behave completely differently than urethane wheels. I’d say they offer perhaps the slide of a 103A wheel on some surfaces but you can also press in and grip when needed. They respond heavily to how much pressure you put on them.
That's what's up! Small wheels for life. I've never tried the Rivas though. I've been pretty happy with my 98a 57mm Rollerbones for outside. I'm sure they're comparable!
This review is the reason I got All American wheels. 🙂
Aww love it! 🥰 Hope you’ve been enjoying them!
Best wheel tutorial I’ve seen thus far! Thank you! This was EXTREMELY helpful ☺️
Thank you so much for your kind words!! Happy to hear it was helpful!
Those Sonar zen wheels are severely underrated!
I agree. Even though I’d prefer a wheel under 62mm, they’re still a great outdoor wheel! And 85a is such a happy medium for street/sidewalk without feeling too slowed down like you would with an even softer wheel.
I love the videos within the video. It’s great to see you pairing the right wheels with the surface.
Thanks! I was hoping people would enjoy that. It’s easier to show than tell when it comes to skating I think!
Great review! nice moves!
woaww, so far the best review video, that I have watched, based on real experiences. There are some videos out there , they show unpacked wheels in 2 mins as a “review” video, ridiculous. Thank you so much, now I know what to buy 🎉
@@sgc_boun You’re welcome!
That's it, you've convinced me to buy Rollerbones 98A. Esp when I saw those beautiful one-foot transitions! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE REVIEW!
Aww awesome! They're fantastic wheels to learn control on! And especially if your local rink is on the slick side or if you'll be outside on a tennis court type surface. :) Enjoy!
This video was soooooo helpful. Thank you!
I just came upon this video today. Thank you for sharing your experience. As someone who is getting ready to start her own skating journey, you definitely helped me see the importance of pairing your wheels with the right surface. I am also glad you included video footage of you using each of the wheel so we can see what you are talking about. And now thanks to you I now have some wheel options to consider for myself so thank you again for sharing. I can't wait to get my skates so I can get started.
You're welcome! Now a few years later, I'm still using the vintage orange rental wheels, so they're def keepers! :) Welcome to skate life!
Dang!! You’re everywhere in Jersey. Can’t wait to see you around to thank you 🙏🏾
I bounce around! I’m mostly just at Branch Brook in Newark and Trenton Sk8s these days (@trentonsk8s on IG- it’s the session I run and teach at), but at least a couple times a month I end up at other spots too :) I love that we have so many options!
You have inspired me to change my wheels! Believe it or not, I was still on 78a gummy... *hides face* but I think before I skate indoor again I will change them! Oh and great video!!!
It will make a world of difference when you do! I'd maybe go with Rollerbones 98a Team wheels to start. But no shame.. I had those gummies on too when I started lol Once you have a smaller/lighter wheel you'll realize how darn heavy those are haha!
And thank you!!!
Woooowww this video is suuuuuper helpful. Answering questions I didnt even know I needed the answer to. THANKS!
You’re welcome! 🥰
Thank you for this video! The info on what types of wheels work best outside vs inside is exactly what I was looking for. And I really appreciate all the details you gave, plus the visual examples.
You’re welcome! 🥰 What wheels did you decide to get?
Sounds like me. I started back skating in July 2017 after a 20-year hiatus. Took quite a bit of experimenting and changing wheels/bearings/skates but now I'm good and getting better every session.
I feel the same way! Endless things to learn and I’m always improving :) So happy I found my way back to it!
Hi! I found your video in a reddit thread and hopped on over here for one quick question. I am a rollerdancer. My teacher/mentor is Richard Humphrey. We mostly skate outdoors and, honestly, for all my outdoor and indoor skate needs (always on smooth surfaces) the Rollerbones Bee One Legend Wheels (57mm 98a) have been a DREAM! I drill every day at home too. We recently moved and in our new place the floors are CRAZY slippery. The 88a Radar Crush wheels are perfect, except for one thing... I hate switching over from them to my Rollerbones when in class and then back to the Radar Crush at home, because the wheels, size aside, feel so different are far as weight distribution etc and maneuverability when it comes to rollerdancing. I still highly prefer the Rollerbones and my dream would be Rollerbones wheels at 57mm 88a durometer for my home floors. However, they don't make them that soft and that size. SO.... all my googling made me consider the Sonar Zen (though 85a might be a tad too soft for my floors cause I also have the Radar Crush 84a wheels and they are too soft and bouncy for me). They are bigger than I'd like but I'd consider shaving them down to 57mm if so. How do you find the durometer to be/feel? And as far as wheel shape/feel/edges for dancing? Any thoughts you. might have on them would be super helpful! Thank you!
@@MizBoheMia What about the Radar Crush wheels? They’re 48mm and 88a I believe. I think there are a few other out there that are 57mm or under and 88a. I agree that the Sonar Zen are too big. Mine wore down quite a bit from street skating during Covid but they’re still bigger than what I like.
It’s pretty rare to find videos with this many views without and dislikes.
Great content! Thanks for sharing!
Aww thank you! 🥰 Just sharing what I’ve learned along the way from my own trial and error :)
Mmm, hard earned knowledge.
@@RollsRight8 With lots of bumps and bruises along the way haha!
This is a great video and super helpful! Visual examples of them in action is awesome. Thank you!
You’re welcome! 🙏
Loved all the info and all the examples. Thanks Jaclyn!
You’re welcome! 🥰
Thank you for this video! It was major helpful. I got my new indoor setup yesterday that has roller bones 98a 57s. They said not to use outside but your video showing use on smooth surfaces means I can hold off on another gummy set for now. Can’t wait to try them. Love your content!
Thanks for watching and glad it was helpful! 😊 And yes.. smooth surface outside, the bones 98a wheels will be perfect. I much prefer them to a softer wheel for tennis courts, basketball courts and such. What wheels you choose for what can really depend on the style of skating you intend to do as well- if you’re doing dance/rhythm skating then harder wheels are almost always the way to go! ✨
I love the scene where you are skating on the path through a forested area. I have 70mm wheels, very soft for path skating. I still am very careful of anything that can stop my wheel. And you are wearing legwarmers on the tennis court! Awesome.
Thank you!
Super helpful- Hoping to pivot as well as you do someday!!!! Going to try the Rollerbones 98a as you suggested....XX
Glad it helped! And omg it took a lot of bumps and bruises to get my pivots to where they are today, but it was worth it! Hope you like the Rollerbones. I think they're really great wheels for both inside and out :)
Great video, Jaclyn! I used All Americans back in the day at the rink! Love them! I have a black set now that I’m waiting to use at the rink.
They totalllyyy changed my game when I got them! For the style I skate vanathane/All Americans is definitely the way to go 😁
Good video Jackie..😊
Thank you for the resource! Happy skating friend
You're very welcome! I hope it was helpful!
I love my Sonar Energy !!! for outdoor street ---- o . o. o. - you mentioned using the sonar on vinyl >>>>> which is what I use for a practice floor -- I thought I was being a whiner, but you found the same situation -- toooo sticky !!! ahhhhhh .... so, I have my fingers crossed I will get the slide/less resistance with my new ( just delivered ) American Dream...,..you are a wealth of knowledge, I so appreciate your sharing this information.......
Glad the video was helpful and reassuring too haha! Yeah, the Sonar Zens are a pretty sticky wheel. Good for rough surfaces but too sticky for anything smooth. American Dreams will be a BIG change from those! Curious how you like them once you try them out!
I'm actually running 101As 57mm now. Not indoors, at a skatepark. I haven't fallen so much in the last year! XD
It's pretty exciting getting the chance to learn all over again.
Oh nice! Hard wheels really are great for any smooth surface! Are those Rollerbones or something else?
@@RollingInTuneTV It's the Team Rollerbones. I wanted to try Varsity 62mm 98A but they weren't at the shop.
This is a great video! Probably the best wheel video I’ve seen.
I’m about 7 months into skating and have started to figure out my wheel preferences and am getting accustomed to harder wheels. I also like small wheels. Right now I really love my Moxi Fundae wheels outside and at the skate park, and Sure Grip Fames for indoors. I think I’m going to get some Team wheels to use on smooth outdoor surfaces in the next few months when I’m ready to level up outside. Radar Energy 57s are my favorite for rough outdoors and trails. My least favorite wheel are my Luminous 85A 62mm, but they’re awful pretty!
Thank you!! :)
So the Rollerbones 98a 57mm wheels are probably very similar in feel to the Moxi Fundae wheels as far as hardness goes. However, unlike the Fundaes, they're not rounded on the edges, meaning you'll get cleaner pivots and such- better for dance or very intricate footwork. I skate trails with 85a, but otherwise I always use a harder wheel. The partner skate video I just published today, I'm outside on a tennis court type concrete surface using my very hard vanathane wheels :) Def play around with different setups! I have noticed that once people adjust to harder wheels they rarely go back though haha!
THANK YOU SO MUCH. A very informative review and loved watching you skate inbetween!
Thank you! Glad it was helpful! :)
Amazing Thank you so much, you're so talented, and sweet!..I appreciate this, it helped me so much in choosing wheels
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Jaclyn, excellent video as always, congratulations on over five hundred subscribers, keep up the awesome work,
Thank you for your support! 😊
Great video, this is very informative and useful information. I agree 100% with your opinion. You are spot-on in which way the wheels react with all the different pavement types. Thanks for such a nice break down on the wheels.
Thank you! I'm hoping it will be helpful for newer skaters as they begin their wheel journey! You going to be back skating any time soon?
@@RollingInTuneTV I'll be back November 1st
Thanks so much, that was so helpful! Appreciate all the detail and video to explain. You’re a great skater!😊 Blessings!
Thanks and I'm glad it helped! :) Keep rollin!
I started with original All American Plus wheels but gave them away..Since then Bones 98a, 101a,103a i havent used yet, and now I ride Riva 98a with Roll Line bearings...It takes time to dial in the trucks and wheels, to see which surfaces work better..
The surface definitely plays a role! Some wood floors are much slicker then others, and outdoors you find so many different textures in cement and asphalt. I pretty exclusively use vanathane unless it’s as rough as, say, a road paved in last 6 months. For that I’d probably use 98a. Those wheels you had… they were the vintage All Americans? If so, skaters treat those like gold! 😍
@@RollingInTuneTV yes they were original and Mr Dummy here gave them away..and he still owes me $100..Soon after that i changed my name to NO..
So helpful! I’m currently using the Sonar Zen 62 85a! Still learning but just ordered the Moxi trick wheel 55 97a for the rink! This was so helpful! Oh and I kept my gummies for trail skating
Realized now that I ever replied to this! How do you like the trick wheels? They’d be too rounded on the edges for me personally (better for carving a bowl I’d think) but I’m sure it really depends on your skate style. I like a crisp edge on wheels for control when doing footwork :)
@@RollingInTuneTV thanks for the response. Honestly I’m not seasoned enough to know the difference and I’m still learning about wheels. I think I made a mistake with investing in too many wheels before knowing what they are used/good for. I do like the lighter feel of the wheel but a jam skater is working with me and he’s getting me the small vanathane wheels you mentioned. I recently got the American Plus wheels but he said the ones he can get his hands on are smaller and better 🤷🏽♀️ I’m sure as I continue to learn foot work and different skills I will start to understood why certain wheels are preferred over others!
@@MsLashun The vanathane wheels were all originally around 57-59mm, but typically, since they're vintage, they've been cut down such that they have edges again. Most of us roll around a 52-55mm wheel if on vanathane, but I've seen people go even smaller. The clincher being, if you go TOO small, your king pin could potentially hit the ground and break. So just make sure your king pin has at least a few millimeters of floor clearance, and a whole lot more if you roll them outside (in case you roll over debris). Smaller (as in under 57mm) is definitely better for rhythm skating! And the vanathane really is the perfect slip/grip ration for it. The vintage ones are very similar to the All Americans in feel, just they wear better over time. The All Americans feel like they dissolve into nothing before your eyes lol - Hope you enjoy them!!
@@RollingInTuneTV This is good to know. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
@@MsLashun Anytime! :)
Great video! When I first got my Lollies I immediately switched from the Gummy wheels to the 57mm Rollerbones 98a for rink skating and never looked back. When rinks closed due to pandemic I switched to the Radar 57mm, which I felt was a happy medium between the Gummies and Rollerbones Team wheel. I liked having the similar profile and dimensions of the Team wheels but in a softer composition for outdoors.
Thanks! And everything you wrote makes good sense. Pretty much the same path as me, just when I got the Sonar Zens for outside I don't think Radar Energies were a thing yet, and even if they were, I wasn't yet in 57mm so I didn't know the difference lol! I will definitely be getting a set once they're not out of stock.. I want 57mm for outside badly!!
I have Moxi lolly’s , and I’m getting some indoor rollerbones but what nuts and which brand bearings do you recommend. I gave the powerdyne nylon thrust plate do I also need washers ? Any help would be great
@@CloudsInMyCoffee69 I'd recommend Bones Reds for the bearings. You'll need 16, meaning two per wheel. Also, be sure to get 8mm. You don't need nuts or washers.. the nuts that are currently on the wheels are what you'll use, and I had that set up for ages without washers. Never bad to have a set of washers though.. you may need them in the future! :)
@@RollingInTuneTV think you so much for your very helpful response ! It really meant a lot!
Hey greatttttt video I watched it all and it was helpful! I am looking to get some Vanathanes as to I am a freestyle /rhythmic/ artistic style skater, can you provide me the link to purchasing a pair or tell me where you got them? Also what is your take on sure grip velvet wheels I was told they are like vanathanes? Lastly, I am in fomacs how would you say the 2 compare ?
So the vanathane wheels I use right now are vintage and these days are hard to come by. I’ve seen some pop up on eBay and Instagram but you kinda just gotta know someone. This said, you can get current day All American Plus wheels on Amazon and they’ll feel roughly the same as the orange ones- they’ll just wear down faster. Velvets are essentially just All American Plus in pretty colors 😁 They ARE vanathane. Just vintage vanathane had asbestos in it. The new ones do not. Fomacs are notably slicker and harder than vanathane wheels. At my current weight (about 140lbs), I can’t hold a tight edge at speed on Fomacs without sliding out- they just don’t provide enough grip for how I like to skate. Vanathane wheels seem to be the happy medium of slip and grip for me (and most who skate primarily NY/NJ style).
Thank you for sharing your set up and wheels with us! I appreciate learning from you! 🥰
Edit: I'm excited to learn more about your trucks' angles too. I'm getting motivated to customize my Lollys and I already have bought 4 sets of wheels. I love the Roller Bones Teams 98A 57mms, but I still find I'm not getting the agility even after changing to them and softer cushions.
You're inspiring me to make the investment!😁
Also, you're very smooth on all those bumpy surfaces! 😎
Roll Line plates aren’t cheap, but they are soooo worth it!! The Giottos I believe are maybe a 20 degree angle? Not sure. All I remember is they’re NOT a 10 or a 45. I use the soft grey cushions on them. I also went about a half centimeter shorter for the wheel base on these, which at the start changes your balance points a bit, but overall aided in agility, and gave me tons of space to get on my toes when dancing :) I’ll do a video review of them soon!
Oh, and thank you! With Covid forcing me to do all this outdoor skating, I guess I finally learned how! 🤣
@@RollingInTuneTV Thank you for explaining your plates! I've been wondering what angle would be a good investment because plates are pricey.
As a beginner, I can relate to learning outside because of the pandemic. I was only able to skate in a rink the day I bought my skates, March 1st! I really appreciate that you're sharing your experience and wisdom with us. I know it motivates and inspires me to keep learning!🥰
@@shimmypolkaroo Aww yay! It means so much to hear I’ve inspired someone! 🥰 Hopefully you’ll be able to get back into a rink soon! What is your current skate setup?
Thank you for this video 🛼
Super review and discussion! Have you seen anyone using Roll Line artistic wheels in the rink? They very hard and thin and I'm wondering if they're comparable to vintage Vanathanes.
Thanks! I have not used those but many have suggested I try them. I’m sure I’ll give them a go eventually!
Thank you so much for all this great experience and info!!! I totally love your skate style!!!! I’ve been playing around with wheel hardness but I think I’ve still been too soft for the outdoor basketball and tennis courts i’m skating in to do more dance moves, I just want to flow like you! I’m still getting the fundamentals and muscles but I’m hoping some RB 98a 57’s will do the trick!!! 🎉🎉 I also have some radar 57’s waiting to be tested, I’m curious about when you’d use those? 🤩😻💖
Thanks so much! Happy to share what I've learned along the way! I bet you'll love the RB 98a wheels for tennis courts. To me, it's the perfect wheel for those conditions. If I had Radar Energies I'd use them in the places you see me using the Sonar Zens in this video. I know they're softer, which I may or may not like, but I'm sure I'd be more comfortable on a 57mm wheel. I just really wish more wheel companies would put out an 85a in 57mm. No idea why this is something that's hard to find!
@@RollingInTuneTV thank you so much!!! Lol, I did happen to find some Crazy Illumin8s that are 58mm/85a but I got those strictly because they are soooooooo cool as light up wheels!!! 🤩🤩 I cant wait to try out all these wheels and focus more on some dance steps!!! 👏👏💖💖
@@saramcgrath4011 oh wow, didn’t even know those light up ones existed in 58mm! See my concern with myself for that particular set of wheels would be the width. I’m used to something narrow... around 31mm... wondering how wide those are!
@@RollingInTuneTV they’re so fun and cute!! I was worried they might be a little too small for me! Haha!! I believe they are 32mm width with a 25mm surface area 🎉🎉 I finally had to make myself a chart 😂 and was comparing surface area to the monster moxis!! Lol!! I had those once and loved them!!
Thanks a lot for the review! I have similar roll line plates, have you ever tried fitting normal size cushions on them - I thought that in terms to do this I have to raise the lower nut on the pin since normal cushions are shorter… I find their native yellow cushions too stiff…
@@RosssRoyce I don’t think there’s any reason to use “normal” cushions. They’re not really interchangeable between most brands. Roll Line has their own cushions made to fit their hardware. My plates came with the grey cushions but I changed them to the clear blue ones bc I needed them to be harder. The grey was too soft for my weight (about 140lbs).
Great video!!! So informative
Thanks much! Hope it was helpful! 🙏🏼☺️
Excellent video! I have Moxi gummies and roller bones 101a which is better for the tennis court
Thanks! And yes, those would probably fall somewhere between my Rollerbones 98a and vanathane wheels- Definitely a good choice for a tennis court!
@@RollingInTuneTV thank you for responding ! Also his do I know what bearings and bearings mm for which wheel? For instance the roller bones 101a what size bearings ?
@@CloudsInMyCoffee69 The bearing size is dependent upon your plate and not your wheels. Any wheels will fit any size bearings since the bearing size is actually the size of the hole (where the axle goes through) and not the outer diameter. What kind of skates do you have? The plate on them will have either 7mm or 8mm axles. Bearings come in those 2 sizes.
@@RollingInTuneTV I have Moxi lolly’s with the standard black plate . But how do you know whether to buy 7 or 8 mm?
@@CloudsInMyCoffee69 Those plates are the Powerdyne Thrust and they take 8mm :)
Can you do a video on how you spin while rolling? I can transition from front to back super smoothly but don’t know what to do with my feet to continue the rotation while rolling.
Once weather is nice again and I can do videos outside, I will! Stay tuned :)
Where did you get your vintage vanathane rental wheels?
Wow, thank you! I may look into them 🤩
You’d probably love the vanathane wheels for inside!
@@RollingInTuneTV Okay, I'll ask my Dad to buy me a pair (hopefully he says yes!) XD
One other factor would be the shape of the edge. If you run tight trucks, having a rounded edge helps make things smoother, less clunky. If you run looser, square edges are fine
Interesting point! I really only see park skaters running rounded edge wheels. Indoor skaters pretty much all use the squared edge ones, though of course with use any square wheel will eventually become rounded!
Great video! Thanks!
Hope it was helpful! :)
@@RollingInTuneTV It was!!! One more question….lol! For a somewhat newbie doing mainly indoor/rink skating, would you recommend the 57mm or 62mm. I’m def trying the 98a and I like the rollerbones….but not sure what size I should go with….my stock skates (sure grip fame) have 57mm…..and I tried some 62mm 101a but I think they were too fast for me…at least now…
Sorry for paragraph! I appreciate your insight and time!
@@awhite286 No problem! I prefer 57mm or even smaller for the style I skate. I’m much more agile with a smaller wheel. Larger wheels are great for speed. If you’re looking to dance/do precision footwork, I’d go with 57mm for sure!
@@RollingInTuneTV great! thank you again so much for responding and providing content!
@@awhite286 Happy to help! 🙂
I have the Radar Energy 57mm and they're very grippy! I like using them outdoors to practice spins and more agile moves because the pavement and asphalt where I live are AWFUL and the softness smoothes them out. But they might be a little too grippy for dance skating even outdoors, unless your asphalt is as awful as it is here lol
Yeah, I've been concerned about that too. Usually I'm not dancing unless it's quite smooth, which is why I haven't raced to get a set already, though.. So really I only use the 85a wheels for trail skate type settings. Whenever I do finally buy a set (probably in spring when I can skate outside again!), I'll do a review video of them!
What bearings should i buy with the all American Plus’s? Im ready to buy them. I want them to roll with little resistance.
So I just use Bones Reds but they’re nothing fancy. If you want a real fast roll, I’d suggest ceramic bearings :)
@@RollingInTuneTV ok thank you
heyy i use the vanathane wheels (with infestus) on tennis courts...is that ok?
Infestus lol! I do use them on tennis courts as well but they will wear down faster on a surface like that then they will indoors on wood.
Finally!
New subscriber here. Found you by pure coincidence, and you’re the first quad skater I’ve found in my neck of the woods. Any chance you’d be willing to give lessons to a totally new skater?
Hi Robin- thanks for the note! I’d be honored to teach you. :) I do give lessons weekly and would be happy to share locations/times/pricing etc. You can message me via Instagram (I’m @rollingintune) or at the same name @ gmail. 🙏🏼❤️
Do you know if I can use the same bearings for the orange sure grips and moxi gummies?
Yes, any skate bearing will work with any wheel :) The only factor to consider is if you change the plates on your skates. Some plates take 7mm bearings and others take 8mm bearings. But either size bearing fits in any wheel.
Hi, Thank you for going over all these size wheels! Love your skating!
I have a pair of Roller Bones 57mmx 98a on back order till May, My skates are Crazy Skates w/ stock wheels. I roller skate on a indoor basketball court. (Thank God I’m able to have it to myself)! I’m 63 yrs old. The stock wheels are feeling clunky. I haven’t roller skated in 53 yrs! I’m worried that the Roller Bones 57mm x 98a might be too fast for me. Should I go towards a softer wheel in Roller Bones or try a different brand? Looking forward to your input. Thanks so much!
I think you should be fine with the 98a wheels! 98a isn't really considered a very hard wheel and has quite a bit of grip to it. Like any change, it will take some getting used to. Definitely give them a few weeks and see how you feel before considering switching things up again :) And thank you!! Lots of hours on the wood with lots of awesome mentors to get my skating where it is now!
Thank you so much 😊
This video is great! What kind of plate do you have, is it good for rhythm skating, I’d like to upgrade from the stock plate on my Lollies. Also, your pivot turn/ three turn is awesome... do you have a tutorial on that? Thanks!!
Thanks! I'm on a Roll Line Giotto plate. I have a Moxi Lolly size 6 boot and the plate is size 140, so it's on the short side, meaning lots of space in the front to get on my toes. Also worth noting, this is a NTS plate (no toe stop), meaning there's not even a place for a plug. So you need to be pretty dedicated to dance if you go with this, since you have no option for a stopper haha! I believe the Roll Line Mistral is the same plate but WITH a toe plug spot though I'm not positive.
I've had a half done pivot/three turn tutorial on my phone for about 2 months now!!! I gotta finish that thing! You're one of maybe 8 people who have asked me to do a tutorial on those! I promise I'll get to it eventually! :) :) :)
Very informative video! You mentioned having had Rollerbones 101a 62mm wheels but really didn't say much about them other than you switched to 98a 57mm. How do the two compare to each other? Did you not care for the 101a 62mm? I typically skate 98a 62mm in the rink. I find them fast but not particularly agile. I tried 98a 57mm a couple weeks back. They were more maneuverable than the 62mm but slower. I'm wondering if the 101a 57mm would feel even more agile? I want to get better at dance moves, but my skate setup feels overly heavy to me. I have older leather Riedells with Powerdyne Triton plates. I want to make changes to make them lighter. Suggestions please. Thanks!
So, when I went from 62mm 98a to the All Americans (which are about 55mm or so), I really loved both the size and the slide I could get on them. I didn't have 57mm 98a at all until I later bought a set for outdoors. I did at one point try a friend's 57mm 101a wheels for comparison sake, but I preferred the All American/vanathane wheels. The 101a felt sticky compared to vanathane. A smaller, slicker wheel will def feel more agile, so I'm sure 57mm 101a will be better than 57mm 98a, but based on you wanting to do dance moves, I'd recommend a vanathane wheel over the bones!
As for plates, I love my Roll Line Giottos. They're quite light, partly because they don't have a spot for a toe stop in front. Really, any Roll Line plate is great from what I hear.
Where can I get the vintage vanathane wheels
These days they’re hard to find. eBay is always worth checking. Wish I could be more help!
My Vanathanes have metal hubs in them and my redz bearings wont fit
Do anyone have any suggestions
Did you try installing them using a bearing press?
Of course the bearing are too big with the hub in the wheels@RollingInTuneTV
@@Astrobishop hmm… I think you could probably force them in. Any skate bearing should be able to fit any skate wheel, just with hard vanathane wheels it can take a whole lot of force to get the bearing in. I HATE changing bearings in vanathane wheels bc even with a press it takes some serious muscle and my hands are usually aching by the end!
Omg do you still go to those rinks? I haven’t skated in over 20 years and I’m dropping in for lessons 😂😂😂
Sure do! :) I’d taken a nearly 20 year break myself.. Got skates again at 39 and started up consistently at age 40. About to be 46 now. DM me on IG! Happy to set up a lesson! @rollingintune 😊
@@RollingInTuneTV oh yaaaayyyyyy. That would be so awesome. I sure will. Thank you 😊
@@sariegoodman6093 🥰🥰🥰
I wanna make some roller skates I’m scared to even put on a pair of roller blades
Aww, don't be scared! It's definitely out of everyone's comfort zone when first starting, but I promise it gets easier and easier with practice :)
How do you clean your All American wheels in order to get all the gunk and grime off?
Honestly? I really don’t like those wheels for that reason!! I use vintage wheels when I’m able to get my hands on them bc they aren’t as porous and therefore don’t collect as much grime. This said, I’ve soaked them in hot soapy water then used used a copper scouring pad. This usually does the trick.
Where do you get the rental wheels if you don’t mind me asking
I know someone who was able to source a bunch from an old rink, but they’re becoming harder and harder to come by as time goes on.
I bought some vanathanes for my daughter and park skating. I guess i better put them aside for dancing. I will tell her to invest in rollerbones
I agree- I’d save the vanathanes for inside. If your daughter skates ramps I don’t have a knowledge opinion on wheels though, since I’ve only skated a park maybe 5 times :) but Rollerbones are great for skating in general on smooth cement. You can’t go too wrong with them I don’t think.
I use the rollerbones 98a but they still seem too sticky.. Do you know anything about the atom tone wheels or should I go harder for a little bit more slide? Using them at @bbp rink
I’m not familiar with the Atom Tone wheels. I use vanathane wheels at BBP. I think most of the dedicated long term BBP skaters are on vanathane, fomacs, Rollerbones 101 or 103, or something equally hard and slick. :) I would def find 98a to be too sticky for how I skate. Maybe scoop up a set of All America Plus or Suregrip Velvets to see how they feel, or even borrow some from someone for a session. What days do you usually skate there? I’m generally only there Sunday nights but every now and again I may show up for a Tuesday or Thursday! Love me some BBP...
@@RollingInTuneTV I've been going on Mons for quite a while. I was intimidated by adult nights initially but I just went Tues and it was nice. I def thought about the sure grip velvets but I didn't want to jump too quickly while I'm working on my basics.
@@UrFavBlkLacedSheep Tuesdays are pretty chill at BBP as far as adult sessions go! Def a good mix of levels and styles represented. So I’d say just bite the bullet and get some Velvets. Even if you try them and end up feeling like you’re not ready yet, eventually you WILL be ready so they won’t go to waste! Hmu on IG if you ever plan to make it out on a Sunday! I’m @rollingintune. Sometimes I teach lessons at the Sunday 5:30pm family sesh too ✨
@@RollingInTuneTV I may take you up on that thank you so much for offering. I will follow you on ig and invest in those velvets 😁
THANK YOU BIG !!
You're welcome!
Where can I get the rental wheels from?😊
Uff.. these days they’re hard to come by! I don’t know anyone selling them right now. Given that they’re vintage, the supplies are dwindling. 😢
Thanks
Another question do you 8mm bearings fit in the old orange wheels?..lol.. I have a older pair of Sure Grip velvets but ..the 8mm do not fit..
Yes, they do. And they should fit in the velvets as well. 8mm is the size of the hole that the axle goes through, not the outer diameter of the bearing itself. So a 7mm bearing will fit the same in the wheel as an 8mm will (just won't fit on your skates!). The reason it feels like they don't fit is because vanathane is quite hard. It's going to take more pressure to push that bearing into the wheel since the wheel doesn't "give" at all. I haven't tried it, but I've heard that if you warm the wheels up a bit that the bearings go in a more easily- worth a shot!
Question, So Im More Of A 3-4 Year Rink Speed Experienced Skater, But Ive Never Had My Own Skates, Only Tuned Rink Skates To My Liking. For Speed/Roller Dance What Size Radar or Sonar Wheel Would Be The Best And Which Exact One?
For dance, Sonar Radar doesn't make an indoor wheel to my liking. For dance a wheel of 57mm or under is ideal and those only come in 62mm. There also too soft for indoor use. Speed is a whole other animal and I'm not the person to ask about that since it's not the style I skate, however generally speaking, a bigger wheel with more surface area will provide greater speeds. Hope that helps!
Having a hard time with deciding between the bones 98 a and the 101 a.. skated on all Americans long ago..just getting back into the groove..what do you think..lol
Honestly, it really depends on rink surface.. if it's on the sticky side, go with 101a or All Americans. If it doesn't have much grip, then you may want to go with 98a to start. Eventually, if you stick with it long term, you're going to end up with an entire shelf worth of wheels like the rest of us! It's really just trial and error and personal preference in the end. :)
I got some velvets awhile back, and they felt kinda weird. Like they were “slipping” within their roll sometimes. I asked the rink a manger what she thought and she put in some spacers between the bears and that helped. But still the roll just felt off. And I used to skate with these back in the late seventies! Coming back to skating after 20 years. What types of wheels do you recommend for cement/poly coated floor? Thanks.
So I generally keep my vanathane wheels on for just about any smooth surface (wood, cement, pavement, etc), only changing my wheels to something softer if I were to do a true street or trail skate (then I’d either go with 98a or 85a depending just how rough it is). If you’re not feeling the Velvets, which are essentially the same as what I us (they’re vanathane too), then maybe try Rollerbones 101a 57mm wheels. I’ve never owned a set of the 101a Elites but I tried them once and they were super smooth- just a bit stickier than what I like. If you’re finding the Velvets are slipping, you may love the Rollerbones! Obviously I know nothing of your skate level, but one piece of advice for skating a small slick wheel like the Velvets: take small steps, keep feet relatively close together and stay over your skates! Use lots of knee bend to keep your weight above your wheels. Do this and you may find you’ll be slipping less :)
Hi, I just got rollerbones team wheels 98a 62mm and when I put them on my rookie skates (which I just got as well) the trucks (idk if that’s what I’m talking about) but when I tighten the nut down tight and un tight it so the wheel with smoothly slide the trucks stick out the wheel. Is it okay for my to add washers in before I place the wheel to take up some space?
So, if you can screw the nut all the way down until the wheel doesn't wobble but spins freely without resistance, then you don't need washers, even if the axle sticks out beyond the wheel. However, if you can't screw the nut down sufficiently and the wheel is wobbling on the axle, than absolutely add washers on the axle before putting the wheel on. I've skated setups where I needed washers and setups where I did not, so it really depends on the combination of both the plate and wheel. Hope that helps! :)
@@RollingInTuneTV yes it really does thank you so much! The only reason why I added washers was because when the axle was sticking out and I was skating they slammed each other so I added like 3 or 4 washers before putting the wheel on but I didn’t know if having too many washers was like recommended or not.
you never said the hardness of the 55mm All American Wheels.
That’s because they can not be rated on the “A” durometer scale because they are not a urethane or rubber material. They are made of a material called vanathane and feel and behave completely differently than urethane wheels. I’d say they offer perhaps the slide of a 103A wheel on some surfaces but you can also press in and grip when needed. They respond heavily to how much pressure you put on them.
What color are your lollis?
They’re purple
Very helps! 👏🏼😊
Thanks! Glad it was helpful for you! 🥰🙏🏼
How did you get those vintage wheels
I got them from a friend who had a large supply that they were selling. I’m not sure if they have any left now though! They can be hard to come by.
New sub. Plz do instructional videos
Thanks for subbing! I have a few planned! 🥰
Bones artistic 101 and Reds bearings...I never change them,yet I dont recommend that..hehehe
Haha I usually wait way too long to change bearings too lol! Most of it is just laziness on my part 🤦🏻♀️😆
@@RollingInTuneTV oh,i keep them clean,i just run them until they are done...Plus,I am about to get some more finally..
I only ride og Rivas new Rivas old and new vanathans and any all Americans
That's what's up! Small wheels for life. I've never tried the Rivas though. I've been pretty happy with my 98a 57mm Rollerbones for outside. I'm sure they're comparable!
Why are you so pretty?
I skate Vanguard Advantage duel durometer from the 90s.
I’m not familiar with those.