Tesla Model 3 with 1500KM RANGE! The BETTER Tesla Model 3 - Obrist Mark II
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
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The Tesla Model 3 long range sounds already nice. But the concept Obrist is showing with the Obrist Mark II is even better! Checkout the Hyper Hybrid Concept in the Tesla model 3 with me.
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Imagine the looks filling up your Model 3 at a petrol station 😂
Wouldn't raise an eyebrow in my town. No-one quite believes that it only runs on electricity.
Hhm Theres a video a guy fuelling up a hybrid tesla
@@RandyTWester That's funny because o get the same reactions as well when they cant believe its fully electric..
@@RandyTWester Seeing how crap its range is when pressing the pedal to drive at highway speeds, it's definitely electric..
I don't get the hate. It's related to how a diesel electric freight train works. Engine is only running to recharge the batteries that run the car. No car has this technology, and to scale the technology down to the size of a car is impressive. Is it as efficient as a BEV? No. However, it gets around a major problem that BEV's have. You need to have a house, or someplace to charge a BEV, which is not always available outside of the major cities and first world countries. Not everyone is well off to own a house with solar panels, so this tech could help.
I understand the hate but I don't think it's warranted. Right now the cost per mile to drive this car is roughly the same as electric, except electric is getting cheaper and oil is getting more expensive.
Battery technology is going to keep improving to the point where they have the same range anyway, and infrastructure is only getting better. Right now this mostly solves the energy density problem, which means the concept is not really that useful for small passenger vehicles, but more for buses, trains, maybe airplanes and for transport semi trucks.
A great idea! I think this makes more sense than carrying a gigantic and heavy battery all the time. Also the excess heat from the generator will be used to heat the cabin which further increases total efficiency.
Heating a pure EV from cold used a big portion of the battery.
But perhaps they should use a microturbine as a generator. It has similar efficiency, but burns much cleaner (more complete combustion).
although I'd love to see a micro-turbine range extended EV for the novelty (see ERDEngineering's RX7 😆) ... even the smallest turbines produce incredible noise. It seems they might be better at maintaining battery charge in some continuous high-speed application, but not so good while starting and stopping in most driving situations. If accurate, 2L/100km is in the neighborhood of a Yamaha Zuma 50cc scooter - that would make biofuels or green gasoline actually sustainable (more efficient than sourcing electricity from the grid unless its coming from >50% renewable or nuclear sources).
Turbines are crazy compact yes, but they're not that efficient and they're only cleaner if you don't have an exhaust system which can't really be done on a turbine. Turbines are great if heat or power per weight is what you want, hence most modern diesels have one to get the actual engine up to temperature fast enough.
Linear generators or opposing pistons (2 pistons in the same cylinder) have potential, less moving parts and easier to pack. You can really optimise for efficiency if the engine can just run at its most efficient setting no matter what. Ideally allow it to pre-heat the batteries (less degradation) in the winter and use the gas engine as a heat sink for the battery coolant so it's already warmed up a bit before kicking on when exiting the city.
This is essentially an Eletric drive vehicle. The gas engine can be optimized to produce electricity. Hopefully Elon Musk is watching this video and will offer this as another Model option.
Absolutely freakin love this. THIS is the way forward for the developed world for cold regions, vast regions, and urban areas that lack home charging ability. This car will use so little fuel that it will produce negligible pollution, and the fuel can be expensive, synthetic, and renewably sourced. It won't matter.
The engine layout is good, but piston side forces could have been eliminated with rhombic drive. Mazda is working on a range extender rotary, which will have 3 moving parts and be the size of a large shoe box. Toyota is working on a free piston linear generator range extender. This is really the holy grail, the best of everything.
Sorry I’m American so I did the conversion,
he’s saying he has developed an engine that gets
120 miles per gallon?????
but isn’t mass producing it?? why??????
That's incredible!!!
and this is a WAY better hybrid system than most car manufactures currently have!!!
I love getting the benefits of both electric and gasoline!!!!
This is a range-extended electric, not a hybrid electric. That's not a valid comparison. VW had a 2 cyl diesel range extended concept that got over 200mpg over 10 years ago.
@@someotherdude And the fact that VW never decided to try to make a cheaper consumer version of the XL1 is baffling. There's no point going gas to electric cold turkey all at once, you need to wean society off of gas powered cars if that is even the ideal result, which it isn't, since high enough conversion efficiency from crops to gas to electric in cars is far higher overall efficiency than batteries, of which we're nearing the physical limit of capacity. The theoretical limit of NCA (Tesla) batteries is 274 mAh/g and the limit for Li-S batteries is 1675 mAh/g, and the gravimetric density changes based on discharge voltage, although Li-S has been found to have very low cycle life to not be viable.
Because it does not work as well as they say and/or no-one is interested
The extra heat from the generator can be used to heat the interior of the vehicle (like traditional ICE cars). That will in practice make it much more than 40% efficient. I really think this is the future. Especially for larger vehicles.
Yep, recycling the waste heat from the inevitable combustion losses is the right way to go, its how cars have been made for decades so its best to use a tried and true system :)
New batteries are on the way, within a few years the range will be over a 1000 km, a much lighter battery pack & recharge almost instant. Combustion is the past, biofuel is an awful idea.
@@nyali2 What is the material used for the new battery? Lithium is toxic
@@nyali2 what materials are used for the batteries? are they recyclable? what is the carbon footprint of their production? how safe are they? do you need to replace a whole pack or only a small unit when it gets damaged?
Just bc the car doesn't emit CO2 doesn't mean it's better for the environment overall.
A couple years ago a Range Rover with 5.0 V8 doing 17mpg was better for the environment than a Prius bc the Range Rover didn't require the battery pack.
A single cargo ship produces more CO2 and other green house gasses as 50 million cars.
Seventeen largest ships in the world produce more CO2 than ALL THE CARS IN THE WORLD COMBINED!
Having to ship massive quantities of lithium and rare earth metals doesn't seem like such a great idea in the light of this...
Apparently if we keep mining Lithium at the current rate it will take 10,000years to electrify the World's cars, trucks and buses. Of course we can open more mines, but we mine the easy stuff first, it'll get more difficult as we have to progress to lower grade deposits.
This makes perfect sense to me. Now I see a car that will work for me. I spend most of the working week driving about 50 miles a day. But on the weekends I drive about 100-200 miles a day, sometimes even 400.
This is brilliant!! You have the efficient power and torque delivery of an electric motor, without range anxiety!! 2 liters / 100km is over 100 mpg. I want one!!!!
finally! was looking for a video on this topic
It's a hybrid EV and I think this is a brilliant idea because u can add a really long range and there is another reason that this kind of idea is more suitable for some country's like here in my country we are not allowed to import EV's because there is no infrastructure for it so we need this kind of technology in my opinion
Nice video by the way 👍
Nice point.... But I think that they should had use a hydrogen engine (i don't know anything about it but they Are avle to use it in cars) and solar roof just an idea and the time that Eva get to evert country i think that there should be a network in You're country to
@music hald: even on a bright sunny day a solar roof charges only 1km per hour
Hybrids usually mean there is a physical mechanical connection between the engine and the wheels which this doesn't have.
great video, thanks.
Do you need to fully charge the battery on the power station or it can be solely charged by the engine?
Next best " new" thing mini nuklear powerplant range 25 years of running 😁
I can see them making cars that will be fully recyclable and batteries that will last many years without worry of needing a change for the life of the car.
As a model Y, I would actually love to get this installed! Best of both worlds. Full EV for local driving but when longer trips or even if you can’t charge at home.
This will work great if they can make a plug-n-play version of it ….I.e. don’t remove Tesla battery or change any of Tesla electronics - connect up to extender to the existing charging circuit and price it under 5000 Euros + maybe another 1000 Euros for installation. This can just act as a power plant when car is not moving and thus eliminate all range anxiety as we can then charge it anywhere and not worry about availability of ev chargers.
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Thanks great video!!!!
I love the concept. For America, I would like to see it in a minivan with 75-100 mile battery range. That would cover virtually all urban use as a pure EV, while offering no stress, zero compromise family vacation travel at 50+ mpg. Even light towing! Not mentioned in the video is the fact that this system can eliminate all the cold weather disadvantages of pure BEVs.
What is the power of your engine ? Did you consider using it for a power backup generator ? If it is really so quiet and smooth you will blow the competition in North America out of water if you can sell it for a competitive price.
Fantastic job 👏👏👏👏
And a useless one
great content :)
oil change? maintenance for the engine??
The coins were glued to the valve covers 😂😂
It's a hybrid. Yes better than a standard car but nothing new. If it had come out 10 years ago then it would have been worth considering.
would be nice if they would make something that weighs about 150lbs and puts out about 10kw that fits on a trailer hitch to give any electric car a bit more range.
This is the best transition to EV.
I really like the concept of a Extended Range EV, especially in North America.
If 90% lf the time you drive less tha 100 miles per day, why don't share all the lithium between 2 or 3 cars with an extended range when needed.
no, the best transition is made by : transition one, a French company
Fantastic idea that should have been standard when it was implemented a century ago with the 1916 Owen Magnetic. Definitely the best solution for today eliminating range anxiety, speeding up refueling times and reducing the heavy and expensive battery found in full B.E.V.
awesome video bro
This car actually proves how bad current petrol cars currently are.
It's appearantly capeble of driving a 1000km with just 30 liters of petrol.
Call me any petrol car that can do that and remember, a model 3 is not the smallest car at all.
Where do you get 30 liters of petrol, 2 liters/100 Km means 20 not 30 liters per 1000 Km.
30 litres of petrol and a full battery.
Well I thought you rerouted HVAC system to use waste heat of the petrol engine. Reduced battery size also makes the motor less powerful. Basically devalue the vehicle. It's proof of concept alright but it's a really old concept, Prius is demonstrating it everyday on the street.
If you would do more research, you will know that its not the same as a Prius! Knowledge is power!
@@honeybee0414 lol what is the most power they can get out of a 17kWh battery this is similar to the defunct fisker karma... Performance is not scalable ... this is only suitable for an econo car not a platform that can compete with ICE performance vehicles
The prius is not a range-extended vehicle. You're not making a valid comparison.
8:45. Energy consumption = 2L gasoline + 7.3kWh / 100km. With battery capacity 17.3kWh, it will be depleted in 237km. So, in order to get 1500km range, you wil need 30l gasoline + charging the battery from outside source every 237km. My point is that the title is misleading.
Very curious how you got past all the software lockouts and safeties to charge the battery while driving
Great Idea, but can it be put in without having to take out the original battery, like an aftermarket kit ?
I love it. I just wish there was a trailor version for my Rav4. It only goes 65 miles till I have to stop and recharge. I wish there was a way to hook up this system in a trailer in back to extend the range. I have seen another car built to do that. Looking for a range extender for my EV.
I understand that this is a more affordable car right now, but instead of wasting our time on this and work on better battery technology than we can achieve affordable ev cars, the right way.
So you are saying: lets wait another decade?
Batteries will be expensive if (and this is a big if) batteries will be good enough to overcome the problems of the batteries we are experiencing today.
@@hermanstokbrood no what we are saying is the concept is stupid. Had this been a hydrogen fuel cell technology I could understand it. But this takes an efficient design gives it the middle finger and slaps you in the face.
Oh, lets put a generator in an electric car. Thats not stupid at all. If you want smarter rig a flywheel off each wheel and charge it that way.
@@jamesirwin7677 Waiting for better batteries seems to me a waste of time. So we have to think of something better in the meantime. Hydrogen fuel cell technology isn't efficient at all. It looses to much energy just by making it. You can't fill your tank everywhere either which is even a bigger no-no for most people.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think this solution is the best we can come up with but it is a step in the good direction and we can do it now waiting for better batteries to come.
That's assuming that we can significantly improve the battery tech. We probably need to double the power density and halve the price for all electric cars to go mainstream. In any case we would still have a huge cost to upgrade our electricity infrastructure to accommodate these new batteries. Do you think its feasible to charge a 100kwhr battery in the same time it takes to fill your gas tank? 1 MW charger anybody!?
@@colinmacdonald1869 Yeah, better batteries don't grow on trees. Graphene seems to be the solution but this is promised to be the holy grail for a decade by now. Progress is very slow.
So, I think this company is walking the right path for now. Don't waste time just waiting for batteries that might never be good enough for the masses.
I thank Elon Musk to be bold enough to start Tesla. It isn't the perfect car yet but the Model 3 was the best selling car in my country for 2019. Just because the government knows their priority.
We have still a way to go but all new companies coming with any solution is better than none.
This would also be perfect for CO2 neutral synthetic fuels.
Yep that's exactly it. This is a whole nother ball game
I wished serious production of this was happening as fast as possible. Like teaming up with a German car company and start production in a year or two seeing as this video is a year old
Outstanding
I like it. It is a Prius plug-in with 2.5x more efficient ICE and stronger electric motors. 2l per 100km vs 5 l/100km.
I just don't like the idea of exhaust ending in front of the cabin. I wouldn't like increased risk of being poisoned by fumes.
Then I'm sure you never drive behind other vehicles.
Cool video
How much does the Orbist cost??? Especially to install in the Model 3? Also do the sell the Mark II... Alrrady installed and for how much?
Its a development company. I think they just sell their patents and licenses.
I have a hybride car right now. Could Obrist change the excisting combustionmotor for theirs?
Send them an email. If you don't ask, you will never know =)
And is there a update on the results?
Love this idea.
How much the Orbist cost?
Great idea ... currently we use 2 cars ... a bev for 250 km radius and a blue efficiency diesel.
Our first bev sucked from day 1 ... a tesla that had issues from day one. 400 km for each try to fix it cause Tesla service center are too far away. Now we have 4 service stations within 20km but this car does not need a repair... cause it simply runs ... or charges cause range is the missing point of the new, but if range matters our Mercedes blue efficiency Diesel is unbeatable.
BMW i3 had a similiar range extender concept ... but did not succeed ...
The BMW effort is just awful, but BMW has completely lost its way. The reliability issues (electrical) are a shit show.
The thing I love about having a combustion range extender is that you can use the excess heat to heat up the cabin (thus dramatically increasing total efficiency). Also, the lower total weight means the tires wear longer and don't produce so much rubber pollution and airborne dust.
Perhaps a microturbine would be even better as a range extender because it burns the fuel more completely and thus emits a much cleaner exhaust gas.
Modern Teslas use a heat pump to cool the battery pack, there is a fair amount of waste heat in a 100KWhr pack. You probably only need 500W to heat a car, that being said if you're talking about heating s car in Iowa, January, there probably isn't any waste heat and the battery has problem lost 50% of it's range coz it's cold.
This is what the prius should have been, a electric gasoline hybrid. I mean it's a great idea a plug in for short trips with the optimized generator for longer trips .
But it feels a bit late to the game and it's not new tech, trains have been doing this for a while now.
I find it funny how we kept throwing train and marine technology at cars and then diesel-electric was kind of forgotten in the automotive industry. We had steam trains and chucked steam at cars only to find out it was either not very good or we couldn't make it good enough, then we took other tech and decided to throw motors from grid-powered machinery at cars and realized batteries were super heavy and sucked, so we went all-gas. Then nearly a century later we decided electric was good enough and we've forgotten about gas at the sacrifice of personal independence and range. For use in a city with short trips you only need maybe 80 miles not 400, so that's 80% less battery weight, and a lightweight gas generator plus fuel is far less than the weight that was saved, so 80 miles battery-only range becomes maybe 85 instead. Once again public opinion, marketing and politics have ruined progress.
Edit: The average driving distance in an urban environment is around 36 miles per day. So 80 miles even is overkill :P
The large companies have large off the shelf engines.
This is good for countries with poor power grid. Generator onboard. No need to look for a external power source
Exactly. I might also add that pretty much every country's grid would have difficulty handling an all electric fleet. I take it you live in Africa? An all electric car might actually work better there than here, you could conceivably charge the battery from solar panels on a roof, possibly economic in the tropics where you get really strong sunlight, but certainly not here in Scotland, though that doesn't stop green halfwits promoting it.
For all the Americans out there I did the math a couple ways just to be sure. When he says 2 liters per 100 km That adds up to over a hundred miles per gallon. That is insanely good gas mileage.
I want to see a 6hp Lister Diesel sticking out of the hood running all day on Peanut Oil while I'm at work.
I'm still waiting patiently for a Obrist package for retrofitting to existing Petrol and Diesel powered vehicles. Imagine if I am able to properly convert a commercial vehicle or even a recreation vehicle for this purpose.
Replacing existing internal combustion only powered vehicles with this "Hyper Hybrid" concept is exceptional and will help us meet our carbon goals before 2050.
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Now this is great but how do they get the car to run on 7kWh/100km? AFAIK you're lucky if you get 15kWh/100km
Da gibt es als Themen einmal eine Vorstellung des Generators, dessen Laufgeräusch und -ruhe,
aber vor allem das Arbeitsprinzip, denn in einer Animation waren 2 gegenläufig rotierende Zylinder mit 2x 20 kW Generatoren zu sehen, die ja reichen würden, den E-Motor direkt anzutreiben
Nehmen wir an, die 40 kW liegen im Drehzahloptimum zu 95% vor, dann wären es 38 kW.
Wozu braucht der Hybrid dann noch 7 kW aus dem Akku oder läuft der Wagen im Standardbetrieb mit 20 kW und die 7 kW on Top aus der Batterie bringen dann gesamt 27,5 kW für grob 150 km / h im model 3 auf die Straße und mit leerem Akku gäbe es eine weitere Reichweite von bis 800 km, dann aber limitiert auf max 20 kW, was im model 3 wohl 125 km/h entspräche.
Die 2 Liter Diesel haben grob als 2 kg Diesel einen Energiegehalt von 22 kWh ... nur wie kann das bei 40% Effizienz oder 8,8 kW für 1h Betrieb reichen, wie es das Generator Video zeigte.
Eins bleibt ja dann immerhin kein Thema: Heizen im Winter kosten dann keine Reichweite mehr.
Jedenfalls ist der 2 Zylinder Generator mit grob 20cm Tiefe und 70 Breite x 50 cm kompakt und sehr leistungsstark geraten verglichen mit Honda Notstrom Aggregaten.
An sich erinnert mich das an den alten U-Boot Konzeptantrieb aus dem 2. WK.
Zero Emission with combustion engine? How do you avoid the creation of NOX ? Ist the temperature below 1.200°C in the center of the burning zone? What kind of catalyst do you use?
The engine is not used to drive the axle, so it can go to lambda 1 immediately and doesn’t need a higher fuel ratio for things like accelerating. Full load operation at λ=1: lowest cost for emission aftertreatment and also Lowest NOx and PM issues due to simple intake manifold fuel injection. Keep in mind this engine was made for only one purpose: driving the generator. So it’s super simple and efficient.
And they use a small simple 3-way catalyst. Will show u more on that in the next video
This sounds great.
So:
Good development I think.
Looking forward for next movies.
Also thought of this, but since the engine runs only on high speed - presumably outside of city/housing area, even then the NOx may not be as bad, as for normal ICE cars that pollute everywhere.
Still yes, any emissions/pollution is bad, but still huge improvement over the current normal
Basically a prius
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@@thomasr.5022 Next, they'll get rid of the battery and call it a gasoline powered car.
Clearly didn’t understand it :D
It has a plug, thus it's a Prius Prime.
Prius with one 1 liter petrol only cover 30 km
That's cool
Love it, best of the best, I would love to have that technology available in the states
Where can I find this front bumper?
Ask obrist lol
Not available for purchase.... already asked =)
A better option would be to use a Microturbine Generator instead of any Internal Combustion Engine, smaller, lighter, maintenance and emissions free it would be able to fully power an EV while recharging the battery.
This one of the greatest innovations made we just dont know it yet
chevy volt has been doing this long time ago, simply its a "range extender"
This is essentially peak Toyota philosophy
What if we make some kind a generator that you use when you go long trips.
Put this in my Audi S4 and I’d have zero regrets. Sadly, EV tech and the compromises and limitations that come along with ownership just don’t make sense for most people I know. I’ve avoided Tesla as a result. On the other hand, 800+ miles of range in a hybrid would be a complete game changer. Not to mention the lifetime carbon benefits vs. EV’s. Bring it to the states. I’m in.
2 liters per 100 Km seems to be about 124 MPG. Excellent...and is not limited to only routes served by charging stations.
I really think Obrist should avoid doing an exclusive deal with Tesla. They should offer this as an after market upgrade with a lot of electric car companies. I would imagine a Renault Clio, Captur, Cadjur with this system would get even better gas mileage and sell to a much larger demographic group than the high income Tesla owners.
Are they selling any ??
Well, they could update the engine with the 55% efficient SkyActivX or perhaps wait for the 65% efficient LiquidPiston engine once it reaches production now that they aren't tied up with what I believe was a military contract. Also replace the battery entirely with supercapacitors or sodium-ion to eliminate the use of lithium-cobalt and therefore greatly reduce the production carbon footprint of the car. It takes a few dozens of thousands of kilometers before any Tesla breaks even with a vehicle like a 3rd or 4th gen Mazda3, and even then the battery has already lost at least a tenth of its original range, perhaps more depending on charging habits and how much "fun-having" you do, aka time at WOT, as well as weather conditions since equatorial or arctic weather (the latter being me up here in the tundra-like-winters of Ontario) damages the battery, the former overheats and overstresses the lithium while the latter reduces range and therefore increases the charge cycles which reduces lifespan. Its all complex, so you might as well cut out the more chemically complex bits and use the simplistic and efficient creations of our forefathers rather than reinventing the wheel.
makes sense to me. have 50-150miles of ev range and a small generator to charge/maintain the battery when needed.
Congrats! you built a Chevy volt! People are trading in Kias to buy a model 3 so price isnt the biggest issue. At least not in my part of the world where people will pay 80,000 + for a pickup truck. Good concept but 5 to ten years too late. Bevs are the future. To me it just dosnt make
sense to haul 2 power trains around to get where you are going. I hope Teslas battery day will put all this hybrid stuff to rest.
Yea and yours or my part of the world are small compared to the India where EVs just exist on the paper. Still we are living on the same planet and getting CO2 down with EVs is something to dream about. Chevy volt is different though. When the engine is running it may be periodically mechanically linked (by a clutch) to a planetary gear set, and hence the output axle. Emitting way more pollutants than this just acting as a generator
Very good idea and hope you guys will achieve your goals. But let´s keep in mind that CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 is plant food, which produces O2 through photosynthezis. CO2 is only 0,004 % of our atmosphere and we need more of it, not less.
Can this be adapted to a Chevy volt
So it's a plug in hybrid?
can this be retrofitted? :D
Holy crapola. In 'Murican units that's an 8 gallon tank at 118mpg and I think he said something about going 120kph which is approximately 75mph. Are we getting this in the states?
So my question is, can you take the batteries out of the equation? Maybe just use a capacitor?
Capacitors have very limited range. That being said there must be a use for them in regen braking, they are super efficient at charging and discharging quickly with miinimum round trip losses.
All Nissan Leaf needs this engine to keep them on the road. how can I get one for mine?
Did you do it?
I’ve a ‘21 M3 on over 100k would do this but would rather convert my other vehicles to range extenders first.
It’s great but would surely void most warranties.
Why charge then?
Cost? Availability?
This really seems like the way to go. However, I wonder how long it will take for faster charging batteries to come online. If you can charge your car in 10 minutes or less, will this still gain traction in the automotive marketplace?
Well, the bigger the battery, the more miles you can recharge in the same time frame, fast charging still kills the battery, especially if it's too cold or too warm, so having it below 20% or above 80% charge for extended periods. Better battery tech is unfortunately a long way off. LiFePo4 can do many charge cycles, but it's not that energy dense, can't be charged or discharged as quickly but might be an option if it's supposed to last as long as the rest of the car.
The problem with fast charging batteries is you need the chargers to support them. You might be able to charge a 100 KWHr battery in 10minutes but getting a 600KW charger is another matter. Now imagine 8 of these in one place, that's 4MW. That kind of draw would probably put the lights out in my town.
@@colinmacdonald5732 Excellent point.
@@Hamachingoare you aware that batteries have active thermal management? Also storing a battery at very low or very high SOC can cause degradation, but that isn’t what you do on a road trip.
Let’s gooo!!!
all the ICE cars disadvantages come to the model 3 now.
Stop being a no-compromise purist. This car will still pollute far less than an all-electric car and it's the answer for those who live in very rural areas, or areas where there aren't charging stations.
How disappointed i am when seeing this video today....reason, i had this idea 3 days ago ....calculated how this was way way efficient and cheap to make ...also had this idea if only it would be possible to have an alternator that with 10% input gives out 100% output...this is a game changer...if only it would be possible , which it is but the tech is years to come with major breakthrough.. Got this idea, but its already showed up..Big Thumbs up to this guys..this is great news and happy that someone actually thought of it....This is the next tech that consumers don't even know yet how best it will suit them.✨💯🇰🇪
Ha! I had the same idea years ago, I hate parallel hybrids they're just messy and complicated, I've been wondering why nobody has tried using a teensy weensy engine to charge a battery and then just run an e motor. My reasoning being I only 10% of the power 90% of the time. Only could find one serial hybrid, the now defunct Fisker. Then I stumbled on this completely by accident.
Great! We need these in vans, NOW!
Do you know what happened in the meantime with this concept. I tried out the link but it's not working anymore. Looks for me almost as this amazing concept that showed in real drive got somehow scrapped. I'm definitely completely convinced this would have a chance in car conversion or older electric cars with not enough range. Waiting for an update 😊
Amazing looking concept!!!!
yes it is !!
Orbrist should consider coming to Africa, where the eletric car resources and infrastructure are very little. With a great price tag 4 the model 3, i see how this might be a better solution for the combustion engines mostly found on African streets...
Absolutely. Might add that there's a ton of solar power in Africa. You could probably charge up this Tesla with roof top solar on your garage. Now granted that's probably beyond the budget of most Africans but it still cheaper than a an all electric Tesla in a country where you might only have electricity 10 hours a day.
Do this for the Nissan leaf. This implanted range extender is a nice idea . Or o can get a portable generator to do the same without losing the battery modules.
if that concept makes it into a bmw or audi im SOLD.
yeah with 450kw+ :D
BMW i3 REX
When will this be available in the USA? Also, this would be really cool if a conversion kit for used Tesla models can be offered.
Ha! It would a nice thing. But I reckon it would cost more than a new Tesla, that being said I'd consider it for an old Tesla with a crapped out battery.
Sooo...
1. Overall lighter car means less electricity used to charge for the same electrical range
2. Much smaller battery means more available battery packs available to produce more cars
3. No range anxiety so people can ditch their other car they just keep around for long trips and take up parking spaces most of the year.
4. Battery lives way longer because it can be kept at optimal charge and temperature levels
I guess you could pre-heat the battery nicely in the winter by just letting the generator run for a couple minutes in the winter and have that warm exhaust fumes cloud heat the battery. Just hold your breath when getting in the car. Heating the seats and steering wheel should be enough though to keep you warm long enough until you're out of town and can let the generator do the heating.
Glad to hear a major car manufacturer already picked up a license. Please don't be BMW, we need this in middle class cars. Just take the Toyota Yaris Cross Hybrid, throw out the whole exhaust system, transmission and engine, throw in the Obrist up front and a charging port, keep the stock battery and Bob's your uncle.
Not to be negative but. No!. Maybe in some rare case that you need to drive very long distances,like a delivery company. Who needs 1500km of range?? Most people will never drive 300km on a daily basis. I was thinking about some new tech, like solarpanel mixed with wind turbines, now a combustion engine that charges battery's...
I guess this is just comcept right now and something we will be able to purchase some time in the future. Great idea and if they could mas produce it, it would change the world.
What wins is not the best idea, it's what has the fatest financial backing.
Want this in a 4wd pickup/ bigger engine that runs episodically as needed
This could be good if for example batter size and density gets so low that you can cram let's say 40khw in the model 3 with this 2 litre engine. And make is so that the engine only kicks when the battery is really low or when on a road trip. Around town you can drive ans charge the model 3 like you do normally and still get 200 to 300 km of electric only range. Let's say you drove around town and have 50 percent battery and suddenly have to go really far that's when the engine can kick in. It would be very useful in big countries where people travel a lot. And would mean we dont need 100kw or bigger packs. Smaller batteries smaller waste and the engine being used rarely also means near zero emissions and massive range if needed. It's a i3 range extender but much better
Nailed it! Tesla purists may hate it, but everyone else sees a high performance car with brilliant fuel economy that you can charge at home should you wish.
Now Huawei Aito uses range extender as well
I've been WAITING for this idea to take off. It could fill the gap for all of those vehicles that are too heavy to switch to all electric. delivery vehicles, vans, pick up trucks, motorhomes, fire trucks, ambulances, police cars, etc... Wrightspeed here in California has been working on the same thing now for garbage trucks, but the applications are wide and varied. I appreciate what Tesla has done for EV technology, but they are still a niche product. This could shake up the entire industry.
How much?
My 2016 sonata plugin does this already. Nothing new here.
Your sonata using 2L gas on 100KM??? hehehe .... YAH WHRITE :-)