I am very sorry to hear that, I really am. Being able to play golf has got me through these tough times. Here in Holland we weren't allowed to for just 2 months. Hope you can play again soon.
How interesting that he unintentionally demonstrated a shot my father taught me years ago...hitting slightly down on a putter to get the ball to hop up over a fringe or a bad patch of turf on your line. It's a shot you have to practice a bit, because it imparts top spin, which will cause the ball to run out more than you might expect.
I am in a greenside bunker and the green is surrounded by OB stakes 5 yards beyond it (ravines around it). Blasted long and into the OB. What other option do I have beside stroke and distance?
I think you have the most frequent rules. Rule 5 though - relief from sprinkler heads. Local rule for sprinkler head relief will be hard to see on cards as many clubs are more and more using scoring apps and not issuing score cards - check with the club.
Last week my ball came to rest on a pebble path. The other side of said path was very thick bushes so there was no relief behind. Now we was only playing a friendly round so my playing partner allowed me to drop in front of the path (closer to the hole). But it got me thinking in a comp would I have had to play from the path?
If the nearest point of complete relief was thick bushes, that is where you would have to drop I'm afraid. You could alternatively choose to play it as it lies or proceed under penalty under one of the unplayable ball options
Relief from a Cart Path is simply that. You are only guaranteed Relief from the Path. However, you could have taken 2 Club Lengths Relief from where the Ball sits in the Pebbles, under Unplayable Lie, with a 1 Stroke Penalty.
Can the out of bound stake be removed if it is interfering with one’s stance or stroke. Also correct me if I am wrong if the comes to rest on a hazard take. Then a few layer is able to remove it if it interferes with one’s stance or intended line of swing
Neither OB or Penalty Areas are considered Relief Areas, so you are still entitled to your Nearest Point of RELIEF. However, this could put you into an "Unplayable Lie" situation in your Relief Area.
@@mrb9849 yes, sometimes Relief from the Cart Path is a nasty place. There is one other option available to eliminate *"nearest"* Point of Relief, NO Closer to the Hole. Declare the Ball on the Path "Unplayable", and for 1 Stroke you can take either: a) 2 Club lengths in any Direction from the Ball, NO Closer to the Hole. OR b) Keeping the Ball in Line with the Hole you can go as far back as you wish and drop. Sometimes one of these two options can be better than Hitting the Ball from the Cart Path.
For the one where you had to drop off of the path into the long grass wouldn't you get to drop within 1 club length of your nearest point of relief which might have gotten you out of the thick grass?
A Point of Relief Is NEVER closer to the Hole than the Distance the Ball is to the Hole, as it sits in its obstructed position. Once the Two Points of Relief are established, the one closest to the obstructed Ball MUST Be Used.
when you find your first ball, that is the ball in play without any penalty. you pick up the provisional if you dont find it and play with the provisional, you add one penalty stroke to your score and keep playing that ball someone correct me if im worng but im 98% certain that is correct and what you meant
In example #2 (steps).. What if on the right side there are tall brush immediately to the right of the steps and you cannot drop? Would you then have to drop at the left side?
You would get free relief from the Path and drop the ball in the Tall Brush. If the ball was then unplayable, you would then take penalty relief from the Tall Brush!
If you play a provisional ball what happens if you hit that provisional again but then find your original tee shot after the second stroke of the provisional? Hope that makes sense
The Provisional Ball must be a shorter shot than the Original, to be played again and still remain a Provisional. i.e., Tee Shot pulled and disappeared at 240 Yards out. A Provisional ending in Fairway at 230 Yards out can be played again, before the search begins. As to the other side of your Question, if you think your Original is lost and play the Provisional, the Original is considered lost, the Provisional becomes the Ball in Play and stays that way if you inadvertently come across the Original.
What happens if two golf balls are touching/very close to each other in the fairway? If one player is able to mark his ball and the other player hits first, what happens if there is a divot where the ball marker is?
Well Jack Nicklaus said years ago that all sanded divots should be GUR no one took any notice ! All fairway divots divots should be treated as GUR for the sake of the course
Hi guys My ball recently landed on the apron of a green about two yards directly in front of my opponent.He wished to putt his ball and asked me to mark my ball.As it was a friendly I did so but what is the rule?
actually it would be onfare if your oppponent could just start the 3 min in a hurry by running over to the rougharea and start "looking"... Therefore i guess that searchtime start when the owner and/ore his caddy start. It would be wiser to telle anyone to wait until everybody start at the same time. then u have 3 min times fx 4 people ..
@@carstenlarsen8144 The search starts when you or your caddie reach the area where you believe your ball to be. If others get there first and start looking then that is actually a bonus
The most disappointing aspect of the latest changes are 1. Not being able to clear sand just off the green between the green and a bunker where a previous player has spewed sand from the bunker onto the green and the turf between the bunker and green. 2. Where a pitch make is less than a metre off the green and a players ball is behind the mark and yet a pitch mark 10 centremetres in front of the ball on the green can be prepared. The next time the R& A have a get together please fix these 2 items up. When I see the marks as I walk onto a green I try and fix any off the green that I see.
On my home course several tee shots have lateral hazards that are blind and have boulders in them. Many times me or players with me drop two club lengths assuming ball in the hazard and subsequently find original ball in play outside hazard (ball bounced off boulder in hazard and can end up on other side of fairway}. By using up 3 minute search mean you can assume in hazard? Just by fact that your searching outside hazard means you don't know for sure it's in the hazard. The old rules are confusing. New rules seem to allow a drop with 2 stroke penalty. Have never seen anybody take 2 stroke penalty or stroke and distance.
Provisional. You are not allowed to play a provisional ball if the only place your original ball might be lost is in a water hazard. • You are allowed to play a provisional ball if your ball might have gone into a water hazard as long as it might also be lost somewhere outside of that water hazard too. Can you then hit the ball out of hazard or two club lengths if found in hazard?
if you find your original ball within five minutes somewhere outside of the water hazard, continue playing the original and abandon the PROVISIONAL; if you determine your original is LOST in the adjoining area that is not in the water hazard, then play the PROVISIONAL BALL; if you can’t determine where your original ball is, maybe in the adjoining area - maybe in the water hazard, then play the PROVISIONAL BALL; but, if you determine your original ball is in the water hazard (whether or not you find it) abandon the PROVISIONAL BALL and either play the original ball as it lies or take relief from the water hazard
Once you take Relief from the Penalty Area and play, the Original Ball has been abandoned. All you save is the Price of a replacement ball. The "2 Stroke Drop" for Lost or OB, in lieu of having played a Provisional Ball, is NOT a General Rule. It is only a Permission for Club/Course Committees to allow this as a LOCAL Rule .
Very helpful. Can you cover hitting provisional when penalty areas are involved. Original ball heading towards a penalty area but you can’t be sure it’s definitely going to make it there. It’s the issue or certainty when the penalty area is quite far away or unsighted.
@@iannicolle3154 that is not correct. You can’t play a provisional ball if you are virtually certain your ball is lost inside a penalty area. If you think your ball is lost anywhere else, hit your provisional.
My rule of thumb has always been that if you could have avoided the penalty situation it is two strokes, otherwise just one. And with avoided I mean if you play a ball into your bag, for example. You should've moved your bag before playing. If anyone thinks that's not the case, please feel free to speak up. I've only been playing for the better part of two years now so stil learning myself...
@@1HappyGolfer "If it is in effect, for two penalty strokes, you can estimate the spot where your ball is lost or went out of bounds and then find the nearest fairway edge that is not nearer the hole than the estimated spot. You can drop a ball in the fairway within two club-lengths of that fairway edge point, or anywhere between there and the estimated spot where your ball is lost or went out of bounds." www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules-hub/topics/out-of-bounds-lost-ball-provisional.html#:~:text=Topic%20Overview%3A,play%20under%20stroke%20and%20distance.
#4 I agree with the interpretation of the rule but surely a pitch mark, regardless of where it is, is "ground under repair" by any reasonable definition. #4 is an example of the worst of golf rules.
I stepped on a senior golfers, believe it was Tom Kites, when I was standing behind the green at a tournament. I tried to avoid getting hit when he hit long and stepped on it and I'm a big guy and planted it. He got relief
If you play a provisional ball, which you have declared, which ends up in a very good position, can you say “I’m declaring my original ball lost”, without attempting to look for it?
You can’t declare it lost, as stated, but if you strike your provisional ball from a position closer to the hole than where the original ball is lost, provisional ball is now in play. So.... if you think that scenario is likely, get your running shoes on and get to your provisional ball quickly and give it another hit before the others have a chance to find the original. 😉
@@1pierrr I used to play with someone who, if hitting a ball into the rough, especially on a par 3, would hit a provisional onto the green and declare the first lost, without trying to look for it. He said that it was ok, but if he was to see it, he would then be responsible for playing it.
@@iancharles7737 yeah, doing that continuously is not really in the spirit of the game... but there’s definitely people like that out there. If someone finds a ball near where it is lost, it is his responsibility to then go and determine if that ball is his. He cannot play the provisional ball until he determines if the found ball is his unless he has already played that shot from closer to the hole. So I guess if you want to play his game you could “find” one close to where he lost it to give you more time to look for his actual ball... but that’s not really in the spirit either. 😳 or if you were in carts you could suggest to the other guy in his to take his time getting to the green to give you a chance to look for his original.
@@iancharles7737 but it is his prerogative really. If I have hit a ball into a very wooded and thick area, I’ll hit my provisional ball and then just walk along the edge and see if it got a good bounce but not go in deep and look for it, because if you do find it, provisional not in play at all. if you do find it and you are further in than two club lengths, even taking an “unplayable lie” can’t get you back out for one penalty, that’s why i just look up the edge and hope for the best. I remember one of the pros did that only last year and took about 8 to get out of the bushes. Can’t remember who it was, but I bet he regrets going in there and looking. Although he also chose to play it thinking he could get it back out penalty free. 😳
i believe you re allowed to do "practice shots" on the teeing area after everyone has teed off and on the green when the hole is finished, as long as you dont hold anyone up. i could be mistaken though
Rule #1 don't play courses with high rough. You'll have many, many stroke and distance penalties. Remember the big boys have ball spotters and you'll never find yours.
Not saying “provisional” is breaking a rule ? What does everyone think, you’re taking a mulligan or just hitting a practice ball? We all say Reload....we all know what it means .
In a Proper Competition of any type, "Reload" would put the Second Tee shot in play lieing 3. "Might be Out or Lost." "I better hit another, just in case ..." these would identify a Provisional.
no- now it is 3 min. from u start the search- an the search has started as soon as anyone has started to search. It does not start "when your caddy" has arrived.
The three minutes starts when you or your caddie reach the area where the ball is believed to be. If anyone else gets there first and starts searching, then that is to your advantage as you will still get three more minutes from when you or your caddie get there
If your Caddie was fore caddying the Hole - unless he was absolutely certain of the Ball's Location - he should wait for you to arrive from the Tee. If he goes ahead to the Ball's Location and starts searching, the 3 minutes starts then, before you have arrived.
Who decides what rules are amended and how are these amendments are made. Isn't it time that National Golf Bodies start to get a Vote? We all know some rules that need to be changed for example: When your ball comes to rest inside someone elses divot that hasn't been repaired or hasn't been repaired properly. I'm sure there's countless others.
By saying “Reload” every golfer knows what that means. It’s the same as “Provisional” . Is it just me or are golf rules extremely picky?.....out of bounds line, inside line stake fairway side or outside line of stake OB . Who knew this rule?
Yes, golf rules are extremely picky. If you are playing in a competition, it is to your advantage to have some knowledge of them so you can avoid penalties whenever possible. When playing a friendly game with your mates, some flexibility is fine.
Golf Rules are as extremely PRECISE as they can be to eliminate all the Bullshit "expertise" interpretations of the Rules such as seen in the Comments and Replies of videos like this. The Rules are also as equitable as they are precise.
Tappin......What a great name for a golfer.
Any other Irish golfers watching on Sunday 25th and can’t wait for the courses to open tomorrow
Yes sir
Courses don’t open until April 26 in Ireland, regardless of weather conditions? (Would an unusually warm spring prompt them to open sooner?)
Love the content and explanation. Jeremy is very patient with you Neil as you do hit your ball into some tricky spots
Ha! So true!
That for me raises the question; does he hit the ball in the tricky spots or does he shape the ball in the tricky spots? ;-)
I think we all get the ‘make it known you’re hitting a provisional’ rule by now.
I'm so jealous. Here in Ontario 🇨🇦, we're not allowed to golf right now (literally the only place in North America) 😱. Respects to everyone.
Ontario is the only place in NA where u can’t play. U be the judge if that’s right or wrong. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
I am very sorry to hear that, I really am. Being able to play golf has got me through these tough times. Here in Holland we weren't allowed to for just 2 months. Hope you can play again soon.
Your leader is a globalist puppet. Get him out asap!!
Only idiots can ban golf for the pandemic. Total idiots.
So just go for a hike while taking your clubs with, same outcome.
How interesting that he unintentionally demonstrated a shot my father taught me years ago...hitting slightly down on a putter to get the ball to hop up over a fringe or a bad patch of turf on your line. It's a shot you have to practice a bit, because it imparts top spin, which will cause the ball to run out more than you might expect.
How many times are you going to recreate this video?
For the Algorithm
They seem like the type to let you win and then tell you all the ways you shouldn’t have won.
Great vid, thanks dudes
I am in a greenside bunker and the green is surrounded by OB stakes 5 yards beyond it (ravines around it). Blasted long and into the OB. What other option do I have beside stroke and distance?
I think you have the most frequent rules. Rule 5 though - relief from sprinkler heads. Local rule for sprinkler head relief will be hard to see on cards as many clubs are more and more using scoring apps and not issuing score cards - check with the club.
lokal rules are normally posted at the borad where u have results and get greenfee cards etc.
Also, local rules for the duration of the pandemic are usually posted on the course’s website.
Last week my ball came to rest on a pebble path. The other side of said path was very thick bushes so there was no relief behind. Now we was only playing a friendly round so my playing partner allowed me to drop in front of the path (closer to the hole). But it got me thinking in a comp would I have had to play from the path?
Check the rules on the back of the card it will tell you.
If the nearest point of complete relief was thick bushes, that is where you would have to drop I'm afraid. You could alternatively choose to play it as it lies or proceed under penalty under one of the unplayable ball options
Relief from a Cart Path is simply that. You are only guaranteed Relief from the Path.
However, you could have taken 2 Club Lengths Relief from where the Ball sits in the Pebbles, under Unplayable Lie, with a 1 Stroke Penalty.
Can the out of bound stake be removed if it is interfering with one’s stance or stroke. Also correct me if I am wrong if the comes to rest on a hazard take. Then a few layer is able to remove it if it interferes with one’s stance or intended line of swing
great video but what happens if your nearest point of relief is OB or in a hazard
Consider this, you're entitled to relief, not good relief.
You can’t drop the ball OB or in a hazard. Doing so is not “complete relief”.
Neither OB or Penalty Areas are considered Relief Areas, so you are still entitled to your Nearest Point of RELIEF.
However, this could put you into an "Unplayable Lie" situation in your Relief Area.
@@apaulmcdonough2170 thanks very much. a bit harsh having to drop in a unplayable lie haha
@@mrb9849 yes, sometimes Relief from the Cart Path is a nasty place.
There is one other option available to eliminate *"nearest"* Point of Relief, NO Closer to the Hole.
Declare the Ball on the Path "Unplayable", and for 1 Stroke you can take either: a) 2 Club lengths in any Direction from the Ball, NO Closer to the Hole. OR b) Keeping the Ball in Line with the Hole you can go as far back as you wish and drop.
Sometimes one of these two options can be better than Hitting the Ball from the Cart Path.
For the one where you had to drop off of the path into the long grass wouldn't you get to drop within 1 club length of your nearest point of relief which might have gotten you out of the thick grass?
Yes, you get to drop within a one club-length arc but that would always have been thick grass in the scenario shown
A Point of Relief Is NEVER closer to the Hole than the Distance the Ball is to the Hole, as it sits in its obstructed position.
Once the Two Points of Relief are established, the one closest to the obstructed Ball MUST Be Used.
Rule one , never play with anyone that love the rules more than the game
Especially "mistake" No6 it would only encourage slow play
Correct 👏
100% spot on it ruins your game when that happens
But the best defence against that is to make sure you know the rules better than them, as I've met some rule Nazis that have been wrong.
sorry Brad, can't agree with you; we don't make the rules up, we just try and play within them.
Nice video. May I know how to count if I find my 1st golf ball after hitting the provisional ball? Can I still hit the 1st golf ball and count? Thanks
when you find your first ball, that is the ball in play without any penalty. you pick up the provisional
if you dont find it and play with the provisional, you add one penalty stroke to your score and keep playing that ball
someone correct me if im worng but im 98% certain that is correct and what you meant
In example #2 (steps).. What if on the right side there are tall brush immediately to the right of the steps and you cannot drop? Would you then have to drop at the left side?
You would get free relief from the Path and drop the ball in the Tall Brush. If the ball was then unplayable, you would then take penalty relief from the Tall Brush!
If you play a provisional ball what happens if you hit that provisional again but then find your original tee shot after the second stroke of the provisional? Hope that makes sense
If you find your original ball, it becomes the ball in play and any strokes you played with your provisional ball become irrelevant.
The Provisional Ball must be a shorter shot than the Original, to be played again and still remain a Provisional.
i.e., Tee Shot pulled and disappeared at 240 Yards out.
A Provisional ending in Fairway at 230 Yards out can be played again, before the search begins.
As to the other side of your Question, if you think your Original is lost and play the Provisional, the Original is considered lost, the Provisional becomes the Ball in Play and stays that way if you inadvertently come across the Original.
What happens if two golf balls are touching/very close to each other in the fairway? If one player is able to mark his ball and the other player hits first, what happens if there is a divot where the ball marker is?
Well Jack Nicklaus said years ago that all sanded divots should be GUR no one took any notice ! All fairway divots divots should be treated as GUR for the sake of the course
Can a provisional shot be taken anytime or only on the tee shot?
Any time
Hi guys
My ball recently landed on the apron of a green about two yards directly in front of my opponent.He wished to putt his ball and asked me to mark my ball.As it was a friendly I did so but what is the rule?
how would you rewrite them to speed up the time it takes to play 9 or 18 holes?
With the search one does your time start when you get to the search area or your playing partners?
actually it would be onfare if your oppponent could just start the 3 min in a hurry by running over to the rougharea and start "looking"...
Therefore i guess that searchtime start when the owner and/ore his caddy start.
It would be wiser to telle anyone to wait until everybody start at the same time.
then u have 3 min times fx 4 people ..
@@carstenlarsen8144 The search starts when you or your caddie reach the area where you believe your ball to be. If others get there first and start looking then that is actually a bonus
Great video, thanks
The most disappointing aspect of the latest changes are 1. Not being able to clear sand just off the green between the green and a bunker where a previous player has spewed sand from the bunker onto the green and the turf between the bunker and green. 2. Where a pitch make is less than a metre off the green and a players ball is behind the mark and yet a pitch mark 10 centremetres in front of the ball on the green can be prepared. The next time the R& A have a get together please fix these 2 items up. When I see the marks as I walk onto a green I try and fix any off the green that I see.
Water hazards and where to take relief? What are the penalties?
On my home course several tee shots have lateral hazards that are blind and have boulders in them. Many times me or players with me drop two club lengths assuming ball in the hazard and subsequently find original ball in play outside hazard (ball bounced off boulder in hazard and can end up on other side of fairway}. By using up 3 minute search mean you can assume in hazard? Just by fact that your searching outside hazard means you don't know for sure it's in the hazard. The old rules are confusing. New rules seem to allow a drop with 2 stroke penalty. Have never seen anybody take 2 stroke penalty or stroke and distance.
Provisional. You are not allowed to play a provisional ball if the only place your original ball might be lost is
in a water hazard.
• You are allowed to play a provisional ball if your ball might have gone into a water hazard as
long as it might also be lost somewhere outside of that water hazard too. Can you then hit the ball out of hazard or two club lengths if found in hazard?
if you find your original ball within five minutes somewhere outside of the water hazard,
continue playing the original and abandon the PROVISIONAL;
if you determine your original is LOST in the adjoining area that is not in the water hazard,
then play the PROVISIONAL BALL;
if you can’t determine where your original ball is, maybe in the adjoining area - maybe in the
water hazard, then play the PROVISIONAL BALL;
but, if you determine your original ball is in the water hazard (whether or not you find it)
abandon the PROVISIONAL BALL and either play the original ball as it lies or take relief from
the water hazard
@@gregalbeke5079 Search is now limited to 3 minutes. As for all the rest - WOW, simply Wow!
Once you take Relief from the Penalty Area and play, the Original Ball has been abandoned. All you save is the Price of a replacement ball.
The "2 Stroke Drop" for Lost or OB, in lieu of having played a Provisional Ball, is NOT a General Rule.
It is only a Permission for Club/Course Committees to allow this as a LOCAL Rule .
Very helpful.
Can you cover hitting provisional when penalty areas are involved. Original ball heading towards a penalty area but you can’t be sure it’s definitely going to make it there. It’s the issue or certainty when the penalty area is quite far away or unsighted.
You can play a provisional any time you want. There doesn’t need to be a specific scenario, it’s at your discretion.
@@iannicolle3154 that is not correct. You can’t play a provisional ball if you are virtually certain your ball is lost inside a penalty area. If you think your ball is lost anywhere else, hit your provisional.
NO Provisional Ball for RED or YELLOW Penalty Areas.
They have there own Rules and recourses.
Provisional Ball is for OB or Lost Ball suspicions.
This a bit basic, but is a drop always at the cost of 1 stroke? And, if you hit a provisional, I’d that your third shot?
It would be useful if you could say exactly what the penalty is for each situation.
1. With the exception of taking out of bounds AND distance which is 1 for out of bounds and 1 for distance as well.
My rule of thumb has always been that if you could have avoided the penalty situation it is two strokes, otherwise just one. And with avoided I mean if you play a ball into your bag, for example. You should've moved your bag before playing.
If anyone thinks that's not the case, please feel free to speak up. I've only been playing for the better part of two years now so stil learning myself...
@@jacobgallaugher it is only one penalty shot for hitting it OB. All the other shots are what you’ve played.
@@danmaardeze hitting into your own bag is no longer a penalty since the new rules were introduced in 2019.
@@1HappyGolfer "If it is in effect, for two penalty strokes, you can estimate the spot where your ball is lost or went out of bounds and then find the nearest fairway edge that is not nearer the hole than the estimated spot. You can drop a ball in the fairway within two club-lengths of that fairway edge point, or anywhere between there and the estimated spot where your ball is lost or went out of bounds." www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules-hub/topics/out-of-bounds-lost-ball-provisional.html#:~:text=Topic%20Overview%3A,play%20under%20stroke%20and%20distance.
#4 I agree with the interpretation of the rule but surely a pitch mark, regardless of where it is, is "ground under repair" by any reasonable definition. #4 is an example of the worst of golf rules.
What happens if your provisional ball is also hit into a questionable area?
Hit another provisional or take relief/drop if there's any offered
Rules 1 and 2 are the most difficult to see correctly applied.
What happens if while looking for your ball it's stepped on and pushed into the ground?
No penalty anymore
I stepped on a senior golfers, believe it was Tom Kites, when I was standing behind the green at a tournament. I tried to avoid getting hit when he hit long and stepped on it and I'm a big guy and planted it. He got relief
No Penalty and the Ball is returned to the lie it had before being stepped on, or as close as possible in estimation.
If you play a provisional ball, which you have declared, which ends up in a very good position, can you say “I’m declaring my original ball lost”, without attempting to look for it?
You can't stop anyone from looking, but you don't have to look
You can’t declare it lost, as stated, but if you strike your provisional ball from a position closer to the hole than where the original ball is lost, provisional ball is now in play. So.... if you think that scenario is likely, get your running shoes on and get to your provisional ball quickly and give it another hit before the others have a chance to find the original. 😉
@@1pierrr I used to play with someone who, if hitting a ball into the rough, especially on a par 3, would hit a provisional onto the green and declare the first lost, without trying to look for it. He said that it was ok, but if he was to see it, he would then be responsible for playing it.
@@iancharles7737 yeah, doing that continuously is not really in the spirit of the game... but there’s definitely people like that out there. If someone finds a ball near where it is lost, it is his responsibility to then go and determine if that ball is his. He cannot play the provisional ball until he determines if the found ball is his unless he has already played that shot from closer to the hole. So I guess if you want to play his game you could “find” one close to where he lost it to give you more time to look for his actual ball... but that’s not really in the spirit either. 😳 or if you were in carts you could suggest to the other guy in his to take his time getting to the green to give you a chance to look for his original.
@@iancharles7737 but it is his prerogative really. If I have hit a ball into a very wooded and thick area, I’ll hit my provisional ball and then just walk along the edge and see if it got a good bounce but not go in deep and look for it, because if you do find it, provisional not in play at all. if you do find it and you are further in than two club lengths, even taking an “unplayable lie” can’t get you back out for one penalty, that’s why i just look up the edge and hope for the best.
I remember one of the pros did that only last year and took about 8 to get out of the bushes. Can’t remember who it was, but I bet he regrets going in there and looking. Although he also chose to play it thinking he could get it back out penalty free. 😳
So you hit a provisional onto the fairway, and you don't find your first ball, what's the penalty, is your next stroke 3rd or 4th stroke?
You've played '3 off the tee' so your next stroke is your 4th.
@@davidreeson3741 I knew that, but some don't .
Just out of curiosity, why would a player hit a 2nd ball if it weren’t a provisional. Can you play with balls in the rules?
i believe you re allowed to do "practice shots" on the teeing area after everyone has teed off and on the green when the hole is finished, as long as you dont hold anyone up. i could be mistaken though
Is there line if sight or line of play relief for movable obstructions like penalty area markers or rakes??
Didnt know about the out of bounds one - Jez.
I always thought ball on the line of OB is actually in bounds.
That last one reminded me of The Dude:
"OVER THE LINE!"
So are all the penalties you would incur for these mistakes 1 stroke?
What would Dorf do?
If I could chip that well with a putter I’d have putted from there too...
With a name as Neil Tappin you're bound to have an impressive putting game.
Not every golfer
3 min to search for a ball but then take at least 5 min lining up a putt..funny game.
2:09 hits it right where the first one went
My brother-in-law would always pick up his ball to identify it and magically it would have a nice nest to sit on when he set it back down.
“Every golfer makes...? Every...
a lot of rules should only be used by pro"s , some rules would create slow play on public courses and every group behind you would be unhappy !!!!
The nearest point of relief, not the most convenient point of relief
Rule #1 don't play courses with high rough. You'll have many, many stroke and distance penalties. Remember the big boys have ball spotters and you'll never find yours.
Not saying “provisional” is breaking a rule ? What does everyone think, you’re taking a mulligan or just hitting a practice ball? We all say Reload....we all know what it means .
I don’t think that’s a problem if you’re playing with your mates. But if you are in a competition some arse may say something
In a Proper Competition of any type, "Reload" would put the Second Tee shot in play lieing 3.
"Might be Out or Lost." "I better hit another, just in case ..." these would identify a Provisional.
He may be the Rules Guru, but he's not the Etiquette Guru, standing that close while you're playing your tee shot!
no- now it is 3 min. from u start the search-
an the search has started as soon as anyone has started to search.
It does not start "when your caddy" has arrived.
The three minutes starts when you or your caddie reach the area where the ball is believed to be. If anyone else gets there first and starts searching, then that is to your advantage as you will still get three more minutes from when you or your caddie get there
If your Caddie was fore caddying the Hole - unless he was absolutely certain of the Ball's Location - he should wait for you to arrive from the Tee.
If he goes ahead to the Ball's Location and starts searching, the 3 minutes starts then, before you have arrived.
Rinse and repeat
Who decides what rules are amended and how are these amendments are made. Isn't it time that National Golf Bodies start to get a Vote? We all know some rules that need to be changed for example: When your ball comes to rest inside someone elses divot that hasn't been repaired or hasn't been repaired properly. I'm sure there's countless others.
Not EVERY golfer makes these mistakes how stupid.
Good example why the youth don't want to play golf ...... or other sports.
Respect the rules, do you mean?
Everything is fantastic, except for the title...please don't speak in absolutes. Not every golfer makes these mistakes.
These rules are what puts people off playing golf antiquated
Golf has rules? LOL
By saying “Reload” every golfer knows what that means. It’s the same as “Provisional” .
Is it just me or are golf rules extremely picky?.....out of bounds line, inside line stake fairway side or outside line of stake OB . Who knew this rule?
Yes, golf rules are extremely picky. If you are playing in a competition, it is to your advantage to have some knowledge of them so you can avoid penalties whenever possible. When playing a friendly game with your mates, some flexibility is fine.
Golf Rules are as extremely PRECISE as they can be to eliminate all the Bullshit "expertise" interpretations of the Rules such as seen in the Comments and Replies of videos like this.
The Rules are also as equitable as they are precise.
No it's needs to be totally clear in competition
Jezz is the kind of player you never EVER want to play with sucks the life out of it!