Punches Only VS Kicks Only Sparring | BOXING v KARATE
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- What's better.. punches or kicks? I do a Punches vs Kicks Only Sparring round with Jake from @HardToKillFitness and we put to the test.. what are the best strikes?!
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Go check out Jake’s video where I talk about utilizing kicks in DA STREETS ua-cam.com/video/L4OJlvHsHic/v-deo.html
Would more hooks be a good idea for the puncher?didn’t see many of those. Get in close and try to pressure the guard.
This video reminded me of the days we’re you would go outside and find either a stick or anything really and just fight
next trip sweeps and trows takedowns only? (against kickers and against punchers)
Very impressive Kick game Seth! You dominated him and controlled the range. Angainst a giant ! Very nice
It's like watching Hitmonlee vs Hitmonchan fighting
😂😂😂
@@SenseiSeth ypu shpuld do punches only vs kicks only vs grappling/throwing only.
@@dannysangree6304 grappling is probably gonna win. **IF** a grappeler manages to take the legs of the legs only then it’s pretty much game over already. If it’s punches vs Grappeling only then grappeling will try to get the punches only legs. Then punches could only give him some punches while being stuck. Legs vs punches depends on the fighters tbh
Gotta get Hitmontop in there now
I wish they made pokemon noises
Its wild that seth chose someone who's this tall to kick at.
Agreed. I was honestly expecting some caught kicks and mean counters. 🤷♂️
Thought the exact thing
It’s a better test
I know he’s 6’17” so that makes it 7’5”??
Only 12 inches in a foot so 17-5 inches to get back to 12 makes 6’17”
To 7’5”!!!!
Lol!!!!
@@emanueletorregrossa4218 what?
Hard to Kill is what you get when you evolve an Icy Mike with a Moon Stone
Yes, yes it is.
we need a collab
So it's a Icy Mike in adult size? 😜
Hard to touch would be the base form. Hard to hurt is the middle form. And Hard to kill is the final evolution. Lol.
@@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 I would say its the other way around because its easyer to prevent someone from killing you than preventing said person from even touching you
Did anyone else notice how Sensei Seth put his opponents height as 6 feet and 17 inches...
I’m envisioning *a lot* of front kicks to create space and *a lot* of distance management
Baki fan spoted!
@@Alsv-lz5yv You know it!
that's Karate's specialty really.
even more than Taekwondo.... taekwondo is (punching with your legs).
@@belalabusultan5911 well I see a lot more front/push kicks in Muay Thai than I do in karate
@@belalabusultan5911 also distance management is a must in all martial art in my opinion
I wonder if Seth realizes that he pretty much did 2 rounds of tkd 🤔😂
I was getting punched
@@SenseiSeth that's fair, carry on 😂
@@SenseiSeth dayuumm
@@SenseiSeth “I was getting punched”.
Nothing more TKD than that if you really think about it.
Overall I think punching are "better" because it is less risky. Kicks are overall more powerful but way more risky.
Depends how high you’re aiming your kicks. Punches are more predictable and easier to defend against. Good low kicks are much harder to defend against. Especially for a boxer.
@@martynodonnell8467 that is good and all but how many people know how to do good low kick. People in street fight with no skill can still throw haymaker. That is what I mean by better. Kicking required more skill and is a higher risk.
@@Abluemoon9112 well it depends what your background is. This is a karate guys video. Therefore I was thinking that most people here have a background in some type of martial art. If someone is untrained however they’re not going to know how to throw a kick properly. As said it all depends on the person and their background.
@@Abluemoon9112 its not rockiet science to throw a low kick cmon 😂
@@MILO-en9nf it harder then you think. Have you see all the hundreds of videos teaching people how to do a proper low kick with power?
It would be interesting to see "kicks only" with a thai fighter who can sweep pretty well. It seems like this boxing stance is so vulnerable to sweeps, but I'm not sure.
Boxers aren't prone to sweep's because of the fast footwork and solid stance!! A boxers power comes from the legs. If this were real the advantage would go to the boxer also because they spar like it's a fight just with bigger gloves compared to karate/martial arts touch sparing!! The majority of them don't know what to do when they are actually hit with any kind of force 🥺
Grappling only vs Strikeing only :D
Yes even ground strikes.
Yes! Seth needs to do that next.
This will not work. Grappling will have an advantage because striking need to have stopping power to be effective. You can't stop a grappler if they don't feel anything.
@@Abluemoon9112 You are delusional
@@hngryviirider8710 I think that's right tho like this ain't working if Seth isn't hitting really hard
@@hngryviirider8710 i think he is talking about video logistics. You cant go all out on a guy you are collabing with trying to ko/seriously damage him to nullify his grappling, but if you dont, he can shrug off strikes and keep doing what hes doing.
"Oh no..."
It was at this moment that Seth knew, he f*#!&d up.
Holy shit Seth this video has nice camerawork/quality/colour correction. Whoever dealt with that deserves recognition.
I was just thinking that
@@dfc9944 seriously mad props!
I was told by one of my old taekwondo teachers that, "Punches are just to set up your next kick" lmao
Love this guy, I have my first kickboxing fight in November and his videos really help
That was super creative and interesting, thanks for providing the content! I think, every time you pair up different styles of martial arts, it's always really interesting to see how it plays out, like karate vs muay thai, boxing vs kickboxing etc. Thank you, Sensei Seth!
love your video seth !! keep it up man
We all know side-kicks are the best form of offence and defence in any martial arts, even boxing.
Huh?
Not at all, it’s a really bad move for the offense, due to the side kick being like the weakest kick and absolutely doing close to non injury causing damage. It’s great to keep your opponents on distance but don’t expect people to get hurt from this or get damaged. A better kick for the offense is a roundhouse or something unexpected like the question mark kick.
Exactly dude I front kick while rolling just to keep my opponent on his toes.
@@dadudem5632 r/woooosh
@@HarryGreenMathematician no it’s not really that, the Side kick is just weak in general. Due to it not using the hip( which causes a good strength boost) and other parts of the leg. Which kicks like Roundhouses actually do. That’s why’re much stronger then a side kick.
Is it weird that I wanna see Icy Mike spar with Jake? It'll bee like Bruce Lee vs Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Hard2Hurt vs Hard to Kill.
Not at all haha
Very cool video. Would love to see this done with the gentleman you’ve had on the channel before that’s the TKD black belt
Wow! Awesome experiment! Good work, Sensei Seth!
I can't be the only one who wants to see Icy Mike spar with Jake
The story of the founding of Savate covers this; in 1830 Charles Lecour suffered defeat at the hands of an English bareknuckle pugilist named Owen Swift. The traditional 'good old English method of deciding a quarrel' had always been to punch one another with bareknuckles, and the English despised the French method of using the feet for kicking, considering it to be unmanly, foreign and cowardly. As French fighters had, until that time, really only used their hands for blocking, parrying and slapping, it became immediately obvious that they were at a distinct disadvantage when fighting at close range against skilled fist-fighters. Lecour recognized these limitations, so took English boxing lessons from another English pugilist named Jack Adams. After a period of two years, Lecour assimilated the French kicking methods and combined them with English boxing to create la boxe francaise.
Thank you for this info. Was Savate originally bareknuckle then?
@@rafaelcarrera9436 Yes, it was created bareknuckle era.
Love the honesty and 0 Ego. Its how we all learn. Osu sorry err thanks.
Good spar. I wonder how easily and effective it would be with some oblique kicks. I would imagine that it would be very effective at keeping the range.
they are really great at keeping range but they are kinda dick moves in sparring
@@matiasaijo6457 for sure. I would never, just saying it would be super effective against someone that does look down much if ever. Could really do some dmg
@@danday9697 agreed
You can walk through an oblique kick if you manages your weight right
That was awesome.
Thank you for sharing ☺️.
You were both really good! His punches were really great, and your defence and kicks were also really great! Wuite entertaining to watch
This kind of video is I wanted to watch every day
That’s a nice camera! Glad to see content!
Awesome Video Sensei Seth!
Literally wearing a Hard To Kill Fitness shirt right now!
this is awesome..thank you
6'17" sent me. 🤣🤣🤣 This was a heckin' interesting experiment!
One of my favorite sparring drills! T'would be interesting if the kicker could also throw body knees.
But that would take away the boxer's only advantage: being at short striking distance. If the boxer can only throw punches and the opponent can throw kicks and knees ... it seems more of a one-sided fight to me.
Great video, really enjoyed that.
Glad to hear it!
Nice Video Seth
Both complement each other very well because if you’re thinking about being kicked all the time you’re more open to punches. This is coming from someone who has trained Boxing for 4 years and has started MMA training since June of this year
Did you consider getting into Muay Thai at any point?
@@KeyserSoze23 The MMA Gym I train at has both K-1 and Dutch Style Kickboxing in its curriculum. I just need to get used to checking kicks and working on my reaction time
I love that moment around 0:56 🤣🤣 "OH NO!"
"So punches are worse"
And thats the day I realized sensei seth is my spirit animal ahaha
its amazing how good he is at closing the distance, his range is insane
Idk about which is better, but kicks are definately cooler 😎
Not trying to be unjustly "pro boxing" but I do think gloves takes a lot more off punches than shin guards take off kicks (of course you are much more likely to injure your hands punching bare than your feet/legs (as long as you know how to kick properly).
In martial arts, I believe kicks offer more versatility .. I can't believe what I'm writing right now.... damn .. but, on the other hand, I think once inside, the punches can do more damage ... if the boxer can reach out, obviously.. Amazing video! I don’t know if you changed something but the quality is dope! 🔥
Could you do more of these this is the only video I found like this
Next one, knees vs elbows.
Then head butts vs foot stomps.
Then finally slaps vs smacks.
I think if you take a Thai stance keep him away with teeps and then threw lots of low kicks because of his side on stance, you could really destroy a boxer
Agreed. But, at the same time, managing a boxer (making it a battle of endurance) is very difficult. A boxer will focus on your ribs, and take the air out of you. Your endurance disappears insanely fast if you can't keep them away from your midsection. Seth was very smart to keep backing up, dancing away from Jake.
@@jamesjones7526 true, but considering boxers wont have their legs conditioned, or know how to block kicks, you could really do some damage to their legs, and once their legs have gone they cant do much
@@samH1305 this is light contact so in the end, that would not matter because Seth and Jake do not want to hurt each other.
@@samH1305 that’s the way a Thai Boxer would approach things. Take their legs out with low kicks, and sweeps if they are aloud here. This would keep the boxer out of range and would be far less risky than throwing any kind of kick above waist height. It would also take far less energy. You obviously need to know how to defend punches, which are taught in every martial art. However they are much easier to defend against than a boxer defending against low kicks. It’s not something they train for and a boxers legs are unconditioned. Keep them away and find the distance with teeps to the legs and low roundhouse kicks to take the legs out. If it was a real fight the Thai Boxer wouldn’t need more than 3 or 4 good landed low roundhouse kicks to end the fight. Taking the boxers legs away from them. At least making them much slower and much easier to set up for a knock out kick to the head or unable to continue due to damage been done to their legs. Fight over in the first round.
@@Abluemoon9112 well yeah but obviously I'm talking about if they were hard sparring/ fighting
I think Jake mopped the floor with Seth...the simple reason Seth couldn't keep the distance without punching, but Jake already has reach advantage....i think oblique kicks would worked better.
Another great video. Respectfully, I feel that using more teep / push kicks would have been a useful way to control the range... the circular kicks are good, but can be (were) negated by the boxer closing the distance (and, to be fair were not thrown 'in anger' to destroying that front leg which would have reduced the boxers mobility, but also lost a friend!)... the side kicks were good but are too slow compared to a teep / push kick which can be done as a fast kick (like flicking out a jab) or a power kick (like a cross to the body to sap the stamina). Anyway, it was a great video, I enjoy all of them, thank you for making them.
I used tons of side kicks
A karate guy who can fight. A rare breed.
Great vid, Seth, kicks rule all the way!
What is the camera You're using lately? The quality of the recording hugely improved :)
The truth is the ultimate fighting style is a mix of both.
We tried this in kyokushin - without protection (no hand to head attacks) and the leg-guy had no chances as even the body blows without gloves are really powerful and can be made continuously pushing forward, legs attacks are more easy to see and need more space to attack.
great video =)
had to subscribe just for the fact u be throwin down
Definitely underscores that blending both punches and kicks is the ideal scenario.
One element that's not factored in the video is capturing the attack, leading into a grapple, lock, or takedown. In my personal experience, I find it easier to catch/trap a leg off a mid-to-high kick than an arm.
An argument can be made in favour of kicks over punches if you're using your hands to clinch and grapple.
NICE
Seth telling that kicks are better for martial arts.
Also Seth dunking on TWD. 😅
I say these two are real friendly, they just use like 30% of their power just to make their legs and arms touch the target, which is nice and enough for testing
Fun experiment.
kick lover as well! however the reason punches are technically better is because kicks are too situational.
... then again nothing is more beautiful than sweeps so next time just sweep him constantly :D
To a point, I mean hard leg kicks can be thrown quite a bit, especially against a boxer. They're not used to looking low, so it would land quite a bit, and then the mental game goes right out the window. Leg kicks to someone who hasn't gotten leg kicked hard before is jarring
Is it me, or does Jake look a little short for 6' 17"?
Emerson of Emerson knives had a drill where both people grapple and when someone says go. They try to stab each other with a rubber knife. It simulates a situation which was observed of a fight to the ground that a person got stabbed 9 times on the ground before he knew he was bleeding out. and the other guy walked away. You can also do that. In contracting we practice grappling where one person tries to pull the gun from the opponents holster while the other tries to retention his gun and also subdue the assailant.
BOTH!
Great video! However, I think in an MMA situation, punches may be better than kicks? Because it may be easier to get into a clinch and do other stuff with punches, you can punch in a clinch or on the ground, while kicks are more risky since your opponent may catch your kick and take you down, I don't know if I am right so correct me if I am wrong
You are right.
Punches are better for setting up attacks whilst Kicks are better for creating openings in my opinion
No a single straight kick the whole video? Impressive...
Recently had a scrimmage match. My arms felt like noodles and the match ended up feeling like kicking vs boxing
Best way to settle this is Hitmonlee vs hitmonchan.
Hard2Hurt + Red Mushroom = Hard2Kill
I think you have to be a lot better at kicking to make kicks work than you have to be at punching to make punches work.
Did you get a new camera? Or were you borrowing one of his? Quality looked nicer than normal.
While I do side with punches as a more versatile and easy to use tool as opposed to kicking, testing them out in bouts like this are unreliable, since punches are seen as reliable if they mostly connect, but its much harder to tell if a kick wouldve worked when there's less power behind it. Especially if it's a side kick thrown against a charging opponent.
Isn't this taekwondo vs boxing? Seriously though we often drill like this in our classes. Quiet cool to see. I find the kickers become very aggressive in order to maintain distance. There's a couple of guys who are actually really good at kicking in punching distance, and can actually land headkicks in a phonebooth. Awesome video seth
Oh, come on! You could've thrown almost only front kicks, rather than roundhouses!
Anyway, really fun, that's the sort of craziness we expect from you, Seth
Why would I square up to a dude 5 inches taller than me though while he’s punching me in the face?
It is true that a kick is more powerful than punch, but the advantage of punching primarily vs. kicking primarily(TKD. Karate styles) is the fact that a fighter has both feet on the ground at all times which provides more stability to attack or defend at a moments notice where as with a kick you need space, timing and deception to use properly without either potentially harming yourself(Getting checked. Foot/Leg damage on Checks and Kick catches. Missing and being out of position. Exposing the groin area on high kicks). That is why low kicks are more effective than higher or flashier kicks. Less delivery time and they flow with punch combinations easier.
Be interesting to see Boxing against Muay Thai
That fencing move came in handy 06:34 =)
Didn’t know Sage Northcutt was 6’5 and a good boxer too
Maybe do a punch and elbow vs kick and knee. Or kick and punch vs elbow and knee
Seth you are looking amazing, it looks like you are losing weight, that's nice.
Sensei Seth, are you afraid to use that hook kick FOR REAL? 😆😛
What style of karate do you do? Mines wado ryu I'm at 2nd dan, looking to start a dojo but need help on what I need to do to set up, like grading others licenses etc... any advice?
Yo guys I need help. Can't remember the title of an old movie were Jan Claude van Damme plays a villain an beats a guy in his teens or early 20s, but then the young fella starts training really hard and gets some motivation from Bruce Lee's ghost or spirit and gets strong enough to beat the bad guy.
I never realized parry from karate is useful against a boxer. Like I've noticed that if he throws a punch you parry then counter for a kick. Which I never knew would be so effective against a boxer. I have never spar against a boxer before but you gave me a different perspective for karate. Osu!!
Do Muay Thai vs Karate!
Now kicks only vs grappling only
Kicks or punches? A question longer than time itself
I think everyone should have boxing as as a base and either choose to specialize in that or add muay thai or taekwondo on top of it
good stuff, Seth, thanks. Question: why didn't you feel like using front leg maegeri's at all? Couldn't you use it to push him back?
Not fun squaring up to a person who is throwing punches at your face. A side kick is just a front kick where your not facing tbem
@@SenseiSeth oh I see, makes sense. Brings your head further away, since you're pivoting the hips sideways. Got it, thanks.
Double legs only vs kicks only 😳
I did 6 years of different styles of Martial arts before my dad introduced me into boxing when I was 15. I thought I had all the skills I needed. Then my dad said. You dont know anything and took me to a boxing gym. 1st day was tradition. I got my ass kicked by a guy less than 100 pounds and I was 135 pounds. I then became hooked. I spent 2 years training in boxing and then going to my brothers dojo just training with hands in sparring to the point everyone in the dojo forgot I was the senior in the dojo. They just thought I was the boxing guy. Then many years later. Muay Thai woken me up more when I went to Thailand to train. But even now. When my skills start to lessen due to either being busy or just straight slacking off. I start with the basics again. Boxing became my core out of all the martial arts I have studied. There's a saying from Master K of Muay Thai. Punches defeats Kicks. Elbows and knees defeat punches. And kicks defeat elbows and knees. Not always the case but a good reference. When I watched you. Of course casual sparring you can kick a lot more for advantage. But someone of more aggression would tank the first few hit if you even land and barrage you. That is why the kicks need to be selective and practiced heavily with pure confidence compared to punches.
Ye, I agree with the verdict that kicks are better. You did have an advantage since you could block with the hands, but he couldn't block with the feet. But even with no advantage, as long as you can toss kicks fast enuf, the longer range makes them better. Ur kicks were lacklustre tho lol. And no leg sweeps, you never went low nor did you jump kick either which is odd.
The only way a boxer would have a fair chance is in the ring. Without it, it's hard to cut somebody off and get close especially if they have kicks, which can be used as distance management.
That's why open floor sparring matchups between outboxers and infighters are so one sided. Can't fight on the inside if your opponent keep disengaging by backing up.
Its way harder to win only at kicks when you’re not throwing to actually destroy your opponents legs
So it's basically og Taekwondo vs boxing 😂😂
I'm all about punches, kicks can suck it!
Obviously boxing fundamentally will be better, because it takes a lot more energy to kick all the time. So it's easier to throw only straight punches while eating kicks than vice versa.
Whats better for martial arts? Obviously punches is the best
That’s why I do kickboxing
its very similar to watch an outboxer fight an inboxer
This is what I think of when I hear "styles make fights"