Best Electric Scooter for Climbing Hills @ $600! Dual Motor Hover-1 Journey Max Review
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- Two ways the Hover-1 Journey Max beats everything, and what you don’t get for $599. This budget dual-motor scooter surprised us.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:35 Hover 1 Brand
0:51 Specs
1:37 Ride Quality
2:13 Safety
2:35 Braking
3:11 Build Quality
3:40 Controls
3:59 What don't you get?
5:23 Top Speed
6:05 Acceleration
6:20 Range
6:37 Hill Climb
7:05 Portability
7:35 Reliability
8:05 Alternatives
8:52 Conclusion - Наука та технологія
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What about the Inmotion Hill Climber?Have you done a review?
In the video you said headquarters are in Oakland??
Where ?? 9:47
Well I'm asking cause I need to buy one for a teacher that commutes every day from Hayward to Emeryville, but I don't know if you guys have a EV store ???
I leave you my email in case I get a response from you.
I work overseas so I need some advice on scooters.
I will appreciate your help ...!!
Thanks.
This is quickly becoming one of my favourite UA-cam channels. To cold to ride here in Canada, dreaming about which scooter I will upgrade to in the spring. Probably an Apollo city pro.
Thanks so much!
Excellent presentation, thanks with 🙏
Glad you liked it!
Great video as always, Paul!
Glad you enjoyed it
I have had this scooter since I seen the unboxing, and I have to say i love it I slime the tires and I'm all ready to go. Thanks for the review. Good scooter for the budget. $500-480 Amazon!
Great to hear!
Bought this for under $500 new on Amazon. Can't wait to try it out.
Awesome! Enjoy your new ride.
Does the current Amazon version have the newest updates? If we purchase old version are we just out of luck?
ur kinda out of luck, i think they're doing that shit next year@@dominic6851
How do you like it?
I just bought the Amazon one today and I’m pretty sure it’s updated because the description says dual suspension
With the updated version in mind, this looks pretty legit 👍💯
(Def would only consider that updated version though.) Great review, thanks.
We’re getting the updated one soon! I can’t wait to check it out! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide i just got one today and its not updated... im hoping they provide some support
Love the review. I've been on mine for a few months now. One thing is not here in the review or website and wrong on the amazon link and missing from the Hover-1 website. It weighs much more than the claimed 31 lbs. It is a 44.8 lb scooter still good range, speed, and specs for the price. But it is a lot heavier than I was expecting to lug up 5 stories worth of stairs, still doable though.
We weighed it at 45.2lbs (1 minute 7 seconds into the video the stat is on the left). Oddly the Hover 2.0 has a claimed weight of 36lbs and we weighed it at 31.6 lbs, so that one is lighter than spec! -Paul
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Nice video looks good just don’t like the no suspension still wanna try it though looks like best budget scooter right now
Yeah, performance per dollar is amazing! They’re going to send me the updated one soon. I can’t wait to try it! -Paul
I bought this all due to this review....and I have to say, I don't regret it at all. I plan on adding suspension, but stock as is (got it on sale for $400), it's a beast. I rather take my time upgrading this than paying 1k for dual motor.
Thanks for the feedback!
My friends got the Laotie Ti30 on sale from banggood for $750 shipped from USA. The deal isn't active anymore as they don't sell them for that cheap, but it's a great deal if you know how to keep up your scooter.
Very interesting! Thanks
Hover destroyed the competition IMO. If I were in the market for a cheap last-mile commuter scooter this would be it, hands down. Dual motors is essential if you want to handle any kind of hill at all. It's underpowered, but that's to be expected on a cheap last-mile commuter.
Amazing price for sure!
This looks nice for those hilly roads
Excellent on hills!
" Yeah", the Niu would be my fav choice and to keep my long range I'd probably walk the Iron- Air v12 up the hill 👍
Good to see you Ash! -Paul
Unrelated to this video but, I've got a 6yr old and it would be nice to see some videos on kids scooters that have good range.. so we can go on decent rides together.. just saying. You guys are doing great, appreciate the scooter lifestyle videos
Great suggestion!
This is a ton of scooter for the price, just imagine if it was made by Segway it would be almost 3x as much $$$ just because of the Segway name. The acceleration is nice, I love my WKGTP, but it's huge, this would make a nice and cheap alternative when I don't feel like breaking out the Kaabo. I'll wait 5-6 months to see how these hold up for people and might go pick one up. And if I've learned anything on Reddit, there's gonna be a top secret speed limiter wire, and if you cut it you'll unlock a top speed of 30mph.
I'm kidding guys, don't go cutting wires if you buy this. And don't listen to people on Reddit who will tell you all you need to do is cut a wire and you'll get a massive speed boost.
Also for people who've never rode a scooter, unless you're a daredevil 18-20mph's not bad at all. To me it feels faster than it is, my WK can go 60 and I usually putt around going maybe 30, a lot of time I'm cruising at 20-25.
Yeeeee I’ll just stick to my g30p for now
How would this compare to the Inmotion Climber? Perhaps the Journey Max would offer better value? I'm in Australia so it's a little difficult to compare pricing. Great video. Thanks.
We have not tested the Inmotion climber!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide ok. I hope you get a chance to review one. I'd definitely tune in. 👍
So I’m planning to buy this scooter. Your review on this was pretty helpful as always:) .But I’m a bit confused on few things
1): is there any way to know the batch version ? Should I just mail hover team and ask ? My friend got this like 2 weeks ago and it didn’t seem to have zero start.
2) is the breaking system a concern or rather, an inconvenience? Does the new batch solves this ?
3)pneumatic tires - this is a bit general question but the what stuff do I need to invest into to maintain the pneumatic tires ? Do I need a pump and a psi checker ? How often would I need to check the tire pressure, is it okay if I would not do it for like a month or 2 and just go to a nearby cycle shop?
4) is there an updated review coming?
Lastly I appreciate you making this videos, thanks :)
Great questions!
Unfortunately there isn’t a way that I know of to identify which ones are the new ones. I think the new firmware hasn’t hit yet though. The braking system is a matter of taste. They’re still plenty strong. If you like to ease into braking long before a stop light then you’ll notice it. If you like to wait and stop all at once, you may not noticed the difference. I do a little update in the Hover-1 Journey 2.0 review at about 4:20 into the clip below.
For tire maintenance, the most important thing is to air up at least once a week. Scooter tires don’t hold much air, so a small change in volume = a big change in pressure. It eliminates half of the flats if you keep your pressure up. You can also pre-install Armor Dilloz tire sealant. If you do get a flat, it’s a bit of an ordeal on any scooter to get the wheels off. Getting the tires off and on is much like a bicycle though, and some bicycle shops may be willing to take it on. -Paul
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Hey there, would you plan on making a follow-up video for the updated model at some point? I'm thinking about getting one to get to work but I'd like to hear some up-to-date info about it before I pull the trigger, considering how hard it is to find info about it besides Amazon's page lol. Thanks for the consideration
Hopefully we can!
That's why I love an E-break like s2/s2pro because the handbrake is just way too sensitive not a good feel. Hiboy e brake works great
Cool! Thanks for stopping by!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide sure 😀
How would you compare the Hover-1 Journey Max to the Hover-1 Renegade? The Renegade has Dual 450W Motors (so I would think it would be even better for hills, which is crucial for me). The Renegade can be bought for allot less than the Journey Max ($303-$400 range). Appreciate your thoughts as I'm trying to decide which one to buy.
The specs look impressive. I haven’t tested it yet. I’m not sure why the price is discounted so low, but it looks legit since you can get that price from hover-1 themselves. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideThanks for the quick reply Paul. The Renegade is 50 lb., so very heavy. Maybe that's why is dropping in price. I keep leaning towards the Journey Max (even though it costs more), but I'm older & would prefer a seat. Do you have any thoughts on any aftermarket seats that could mount on the Journey Max?
How do I determine if my journey max is the updated version with the fix for brake and cruise control ?
Most of them are the updated ones!
Trying to decide between the Niu KQi2 and this, if anyone has an opinion in here
Loved the video
So glad you like the video!
Performance wise the Journey Max destroys the KQi2 with about 4 more miles of range, 4 more mph top speed and a 0 to 15 time of 4.1 seconds vs the KQi2 Pros 7.6 seconds. Similarly with the hill climb test the Journey Max gets up our hill in 12.4 seconds vs the Niu’s 20.3
That said, NIU has a longer warranty and nicer build quality, but you’re more likely to “out grow” the performance of the KQi2 pro sooner.
So they’re both great scooters, but it depends on which suits you better. -Paul
Could you please tell me the dech width of this scooter? I'd also like to know the deck width of the Journey 2.0 I cant seem to find the specs anywhere. Thank you!
It’s 5.75” wide for the Journey 2.0 and 6.75 for the Journey Max.
I measured them myself. :-)
-Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thank you so much greatly appreciated! The channel has been the best I found for scooter info. So nice! thx! 🏆
How would the hill capability compare with a Ninebot Pro Plus ? Looking to understand if a 800 w rear wheel can get same hill climb results as a dual motor 800 watt.
Hills we recommend dual motors!
If you had to pick between g2 Segway varla pegasus mantis 8 or gotrax gx1 which one would you choose
Gotrax GX1
I have hover 1 Jive has zero problems getting up hills the break to stop horrible it stops to the point you would fall off lol so I just use the other button for now.
Thanks for the feedback!
It went down to just over $470 on Amazon, with free shipping. But, on Xmas, they also added a 20% off coupon bringing it down to less than $380! Couldn't resist and bought one.
dang I missed this deal
@@DaBinCheblack one is $360 and white $385 right now. I bought one
@@batmangsxr300 Thanks for the heads up, just ordered one!
@@DaBinChe awesome 👌 glad to assist!
Inmotion Climber for the win!!
We should be reviewing that after new year!
Amazon Black Friday version arrived and it has the hard breaking issue. Anyone knows if this can be fixed with some firmware update in the future?
Contact CS they will assist you
What do the percentage inclines translate to in degrees? Thanks.
10-15%
Did the upgraded version come out yet?
Believe so!
Pick one: 1) J Max 2) KQi3 pro/max 3) Inokim Light 2
The Light 2 is a fun and very well made scooter but takes 19 seconds to climb our test hill. The Journey Max did it in 12.4 seconds! -Paul
6:46 20.5° 20.5% !!!
I didn’t realize the video editor put it up as degrees. Sorry about that. It’s % definitely not degrees. I should have caught that during the first draft.
-Paul
I'm having a hard time deciding between niu kqi3 max, the hiboy max pro, and this.
And I gotta decide by next weekend 😭
Go with the Niu!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide that's what I'm really leaning towards, I'm not in Oakland anymore so I don't have to worry about hills out here in coastal Georgia, everything is pretty much downhill both ways or flat. It really comes down to range and quality/reliability.
Did you get the updated one yet? I am interested in buying this scooter. thanks!
Yes we got the updated one!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide updated review coming soon?
Thank you
This might seem unrelated but does anyone know how to install new break pads the right away idk how to put the metal piece that going to connect it in the right away anywhere on the internet
I’m having a hard time picturing which piece you’re having trouble with, but here’s a tutorial I made about how to adjust disc brakes on an electric scooter. -Paul
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@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I mean the the breaks pad themselves not the outer adjuster part when they wear down you gotta remove them , I heard this piece is to keep them in place but I'm not sure how too? it's the kukurin g2 max I have.
In black it is 70 some dollars cheaper. Same one.
i like the jerny max it just loks beter
cool! Thanks for stopping by.
Hello; max or renegade , which one is better?
Both are excellent options!
Thx
I got this today but it still has the annoying auto cruse control and requires push to start. do u know how to update the firmware? i cant find out how
I’m not sure it can be updated once a scooter is manufactured. It sounds like the updated version hasn’t hit the market yet. I’ll check. -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide that would be a huge bummer. Just seems like a firmware update, will be a no go if they don't offer updates. I'll have to return this one and get something with proper support. I love it aside from that, if I could just tune the regen breaking, disable cruse and push to start it would be great. It's got the best specs on the market for the price, if they could only offer minor updates they would crush it. I work as an Amazon delivery driver and drive the rivian edv, got this to help with private driveways that are too small for my huge edv along with apartments. The cruse control feels sketchy, when it turns on just before u plan to slow down and u keep going, it's a lil unsafe. It's insane to me that that's set by default and there's no way to turn it off. Im sure I could adjust to it but I feel like it's not tuned well.
Shoot I just ordered one. I saw in other comments they updated and fixed these issues...
@@batmangsxr300 that's why I bought it! The listing even said Hover-1 Journey 2.0 Max and it was sold directly by amazon, not a 3rd party. does 2.0 not mean its the updated version? i dont understand
Have you heard back from them at all? Im waiting on a response from them@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
What are the dimensions folded and unfolded?
Check the link in description
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuidethey do not have them listed, I looked already
Does anyone know about a budget scoooter with a top speed of 15 mph
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Decision between this, Inmotion Air Pro, or NIU KQi3 Pro for short SF commute? Not any crazy distances but some hills as you would guess. Essentially single motor with more reliability or dual motor with less reliability.
Also if you get an old version of the Journey Max, are they offering upgrades/updates? Can’t get ahold of their CS
Niu for the win!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thanks! I guess a better question for you is for a short commute in SF with average hills, is dual motor needed and how many watts would you recommend? Hover-1 also has the Renegade dual motor model that is stronger and cheaper, thoughts?
How much does this scooter weigh exactly?
Should be in the video!
I don't see the weight of the scooter :( @@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
Just a heads up, I called customer service asking about the updates and they had no idea what I was talking about.
Being updated for sure!
No shocks no scooter ❤
Many other options for sure!
The tires are only 8.5"
This tire spec is 8.5”, as noted in the video, but measure closer to 9” when installed. -Paul
Torque please? Because that’s what gets you uphil__
Yeah, a little heart on my comment doesn’t answer my question. Just means you don’t READ the comments.
price is $350! for the white one right now. not going to last...
Awesome deal!
This review really downplayed the lack of suspension of this scooter. As someone who owned this model and rode it in Oakland as well. Tried to ride it up to Merritt College which has a pretty comparable level of steepness as San Francisco streets and this was like riding on a shopping cart. And of course, it got a flat since it has tube tires. It absolutely has great acceleration with the dual motors, but the braking was still non linear depending on how fast you were traveling. This scooter is meant for warehouse smooth terrain unless you don't mind feeling like you've just operated a jackhammer for an hour after you finish riding. This review seemed to really make sure they technically didn't lie, while making sure they didn't upset the manufacturer. As someone who scooters in and through Oakland, I'm now questioning why they don't test the scooters locally rather than taking them to San Francisco where the riding is a bit more sanitized.
It’s a budget scooter and has lots of features for what you are paying for it.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide You could say that for a lot of products. This scooter has a great thumb throttle. It's the reason I chose the Apollo City Pro 2024 based on your review. This scooter has great acceleration and handles hills quite well ( I took it all around UCB). But all of that is negated if the riding experience is nearly unrideable due to the lack of suspension. And that is the major problem with this review. It highlights all these other features and totally downplayed how all those features are undone by the riding experience in normal areas such as streets, parking lots and sidewalks. This scooter is designed for riding in a warehouse or a grocery store with super smooth floors or maybe the freshest of paved roads. Even the painted markings in the streets cause significant bumps. I could even go on how its lack of water intrusion rating was upsold by down playing that no manufacturer of scooters warranties damage caused by water. Why on other scooter reviews is the water IP rating pushed as such a great feature?
Switch to real 10-inch tires. It makes a huge difference in ride quality and, partly, corrects the braking response. Plus, the speedometer is now accurate at top speed, 22.1mph GPS verified speed.
This thing has been working well on the Ed Koch QB bridge bike lane and all throughout Manhattan when I've used it stock. I agree the breaking could be better at lower speed though.
I used to have the Hover 1 Renegade, but sold it after 8months as I also have the 23 Apollo city pro. For the price, it's a much better scooter than this journey max. Don't know why Hover 1 isn't pushing it, or why no reviewer has taken any interest in it. It has dual motors, rear suspension, turn signals, Bluetooth speakers, 8.5in wide deck with led deck lighting,cruise control, all for 399usd. As much as I like the Apollo city pro, the folding mechanism, kickstand and led front light are all inferior to the Renegade's, even though the Apollo is 3.5 times more expensive.
don't like 90 days warranty
Yea would be better to be longer
2 paralele motor give only 250 but twice torgue.. dont spit BS numbers! oif yourse even single motor can eat 750W till start cooking.. 2 are speparatre that power input. with beter eficienvy and bit of lose cause by second esc
Amazon price is down to $431.51
Great price for sure!
I feel like a wimpy liberal watching this video considering buying one
Scooters are cool for sure!
Don't buy this scooter if you want good range. Also the build quality is not good whatsoever. This company has zero part availability on their website, and they don't respond to support requests.
The only positive thing I could say about this scooter is the acceleration, speed and hill climbing ability. Everything else was terrible
What sort of range did you get? I covered 20.4 miles on our range test. When I compare its range against the typical range for all of the other scooters we've tested at about this price the average is about 15 real world miles. So this has about 33% more than the typical scooter for its price.
I've been strongly encouraging them to please stock more parts on their site. They tell me they are actively working on it, but I'll keep bringing it up every time I speak with them. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideI got 15 miles on the dot each ride, maybe 18 on a good day. It's not a bad scooter for the money but I don't think I would recommend it. Biggest reason is for the lack of customer support as well as build quality. I could be a rare case, I'm not too sure.
I returned mine and got a deal on Amazon for the Niu kqi3 max for $600. What a steal. I appreciate everything you do for the scooter community Paul! This is the best scooter channel on YT.
Not loving xiomi 365 desighn the bars look very narrow I'd like to see the xiomi design where it belongs in the bin
The m365 wasn’t the prettiest, but it might be the most prolific scooter ever (especially if we count clones and rental scooters!). -Paul