Can the Troublesome Alpina B7 be Fixed? - Project Chicago: Part 9

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  • Опубліковано 14 тра 2022
  • In this episode, we go through several different plans and attempts to put the Alpina back on the road. I end up buying a V8 N62B44 engine on which Alpina H1 engine is based on. We make some rather interesting discoveries and come up with a plan!
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  • @M539Restorations
    @M539Restorations  2 роки тому +2249

    Since this question keeps popping up, I'll address it here. If we are building the same engine as Alpina did, why are they falling in the first place and how can we prevent it from happening? Alpina used very tight piston to wall clearances 0.01-0.02 mm, stock N62 105°C thermostat and 5W30 oil. Disastrous recipe for a supercharged engine and in my opinion, that's why it ends up with scored cylinders.
    To achieve better emissions and fuel consumption, 105°C tstat was used, which means the engine will sometimes see temperatures as high as 110-115°C when under heavy load and when you have such tight clearances, thinner oil, well something has to give and damage occurs. If you look at the high-powered M engines of the same era, S85, S65, S62... they all run 10W60 oil which offers far superior protection under heavy loads and none of them run that insanely hot, they all have 79°C thermostats. Alpina did a good job by beefing up the bottom end on N62 when they developed H1 engine, but using stock N62 thermostat and thin oil on a 500hp supercharged engine with tight clearances... Well, here we are with a toilet plunger in our hands.
    When we put this engine together, we'll rock that 95°C thermostat and 5W50 oil. It will help long-term. As for the piston to wall clearance, since this is a used block that's worn, clearances will be on the loose side which goes in our favor. The goal now is to get this turd back on the road and do so without giving millions to Alpina for new parts. If we can get 100k km out of this engine, that would be a win. Given 15 other cars that I have, it'll take me 100 years to cover that distance with one car anyway. :D

    • @NextDoorGuy
      @NextDoorGuy 2 роки тому +102

      Mad that they used such a high temp thermostat for a boosted engine, that thing ran hotter than a rotary when in heavy load 😂. Great knowledge in this episode!
      (Also I'd recommend pinning your comment so people avoid commenting the same thing)

    • @AlexanderMichelson
      @AlexanderMichelson 2 роки тому +50

      You are a certified Serbian legend, Sir! Thank you!

    • @khalid89-
      @khalid89- 2 роки тому +1

      😘👌

    • @ernestjones5113
      @ernestjones5113 2 роки тому +21

      Gap the rings at the wide end, for the same reasons you just explained

    • @janvanderwal2744
      @janvanderwal2744 2 роки тому +13

      Problem is in the pistons, but because the engine is boosted you can not use the stock bmw pistons.. and check the difference in weight of them.. and of course oil and temperature.

  • @asxius
    @asxius 2 роки тому +1008

    I hoped we'd see Robert again, since the last time he dropped the hilarious line "it's not your fault, but it's your problem". Dude's awesome specialist.

    • @acsiii110
      @acsiii110 2 роки тому +68

      I prefer drunk guy's surprise cameos

    • @DejvmanXsindicate
      @DejvmanXsindicate 2 роки тому +14

      He moved out of Germany, i don´t think we gonna see him anymore

    • @acsiii110
      @acsiii110 2 роки тому +15

      @@DejvmanXsindicate You never know with drunk guy. Wild card.

    • @asxius
      @asxius 2 роки тому +3

      @@DejvmanXsindicate Yeah, that's a shame, but hopefully he'll live a nice peaceful life without broken BMW's in the line at the doors.

    • @jensgerdes45
      @jensgerdes45 2 роки тому +1

      @@DejvmanXsindicate smart move

  • @VincentParisien
    @VincentParisien 2 роки тому +270

    You`ll have to stamp "M539" on the block instead of "H1" I think the Alpina community should all be stamping "M539" on their BMW swapped blocks in recognition of your R&D and investigation work. Love your channel, keep it up!

  • @krystofnovak6632
    @krystofnovak6632 2 роки тому +375

    Conspiracy theory: Alpina didn’t want to participate on this build because they already knew that it will be unreliable even if everything is done perfectly. :D

    • @whatif4502
      @whatif4502 2 роки тому +41

      i think that's a fact

    • @GTmax118
      @GTmax118 2 роки тому +24

      NO doubt it is a fact

    • @cd0999
      @cd0999 2 роки тому +7

      I subscribed to this conspiracy

    • @uvuvwevwevweossaswithglasses
      @uvuvwevwevweossaswithglasses 2 роки тому +2

      Lmao😂😂😂

    • @atavlar
      @atavlar Рік тому +1

      😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

  • @digitalrailroader
    @digitalrailroader 2 роки тому +627

    the discovery you made that Alpina pretty much used a stock N62 block and just put in their own forged rotating assembly gives a LOT of hope for Alpina owners that are in the same boat as Project Chicago with their engine in pieces and no rebuildable cores to be had.

    • @ekaftan
      @ekaftan 2 роки тому +183

      And lowered the value of an Alpina block to zero.

    • @mr.c0stell0
      @mr.c0stell0 2 роки тому +20

      @@ekaftan I remember seeing 3 cosmetically perfect b7's going for $13-22k. I was looking to replace a f02 760. I'm glad I did that research.

    • @cinderella8719
      @cinderella8719 2 роки тому +91

      @@ekaftan Perhaps one reason to ALPINA not recommending doing this work on his own... ;-)

    • @rudzki2468
      @rudzki2468 2 роки тому

      @@ekaftan and probably pised them of really badly 🙂

    • @RDSAlphard
      @RDSAlphard 2 роки тому +9

      Not even stronger head bolt or different head gasket? Damn, it's bit of half-ass strengthening job.

  • @McMaster1500
    @McMaster1500 2 роки тому +783

    Others would scrap the car long time ago and you dont give up that easily which i have to give a massive respect for, keep it going!

    • @RDSAlphard
      @RDSAlphard 2 роки тому +5

      Just like Hoovie, eh?

    • @aliabdallah102
      @aliabdallah102 2 роки тому +9

      @@RDSAlphard no? Hoovie scrapped his.

    • @blxtothis
      @blxtothis 2 роки тому +2

      To be fair to scrap such a magnificent anomaly would be criminal.

    • @patriciomunoz2830
      @patriciomunoz2830 2 роки тому +5

      So what? It's valid, not everyone has money to put it in the trash

    • @gary6576
      @gary6576 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah right? He must be loaded no? Or is Germany just a better place to live in than the US?

  • @tsherwoodrzero
    @tsherwoodrzero 2 роки тому +259

    "Imagination costs nothing."
    -Felix Wankel
    You found a solution to the problem plaguing every Alpina, and it came from a salvage yard on the most "pedestrian" E65 7-series. Well done sir, we salute you.

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 2 роки тому +7

      Fingers crossed for the engine build-up, test & dyno ! ;0)

    • @anidiotinaracingcar4874
      @anidiotinaracingcar4874 2 роки тому +16

      I assume you're American. The vast majority of E65 sold in Europe were 730d, so a 745/750 sounds pretty fancy to us...

  • @_Nosferatu_
    @_Nosferatu_ 2 роки тому +301

    There's so much positivity in the comments, I feel like I'm part of a big family with all the people that have been closely following this project. I love your stubbornness Sreten, please never stop doing this you're making so many people happy with these videos :)

    • @4estit0
      @4estit0 2 роки тому +7

      I agree with you!!! The best channel ever ,🥰🥰🥰

    • @ItsSerialBoX
      @ItsSerialBoX 2 роки тому +5

      I love when I get notification from his channel. I plan a nice long dinner around it, where my girlfriend can go watch her shows and I can sit down and watch Sreten wrench away and just learn so much. I know trashing the first block hurt the soul a bit, but your stepping outside of your comfort zone here, learning and teaching the rest of us so much more. Really can't wait to see how this block performs when you get it all back together! Best of luck from Green Bay, WI!

    • @urbanphoenix4599
      @urbanphoenix4599 Рік тому +1

      I’m a girl, and typically these type of videos are most definitely NOT my thing. However, I’m riveted to Sretens content. Like glued. I’m binging them all. Screw makeup and clothes, bring on mechanics! So bloody interesting. I’m a convert!

  • @polaris6933
    @polaris6933 2 роки тому +176

    Robert is like the old wise wizard that our hero goes to when he's really in a pinch.

  • @ef20syxalag
    @ef20syxalag 2 роки тому +185

    Ok, not the time to sleep now, it has been decided. Too late for a coffee though, but the cookies have been deployed. Happy saturday night!

  • @Richiemouse
    @Richiemouse 2 роки тому +61

    The fact that this project went pear shaped has resulted in a series far, far more interesting than just unbolting worn parts and bolting on new ones. Great stuff.

  • @B7stuff
    @B7stuff 2 роки тому +25

    Great troubleshooting as always Sreten.
    It should be no surprise, as back in 2007 one of the first articles in the US published by Dave VanderWerp of Car and Driver stated that "...Alpina started development back when the 7-series--the 745i--was powered by a 325-hp, 4.4-liter V-8, that's the basis for the B7. To handle the 11.6 psi of intercooled boost whipped up by the centrifugal supercharger, the engine gets lower-compression-ratio pistons as well as a stronger crankshaft and connecting rods."

    • @markvanderstaaij3625
      @markvanderstaaij3625 2 роки тому +1

      Probable because Dave had the same breakdown already back then 😜

  • @Potatofarmer1898
    @Potatofarmer1898 2 роки тому +312

    In other news: “Prices drops significantly for Alpina B7 used engines after breakthrough discovery”.

    • @antonioisakov6416
      @antonioisakov6416 2 роки тому +13

      B5 and B6 too as they use same engine

    • @Viidarr13
      @Viidarr13 2 роки тому +14

      U mean Alpina put charges toward Sretan for copyright ownership and revealing company secret?

    • @VegaO2k
      @VegaO2k 2 роки тому +25

      or n62b44 used engine prices rises :P

    • @patriciomunoz2830
      @patriciomunoz2830 2 роки тому +6

      @@Viidarr13 lmao you probably from 'murica

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 2 роки тому

      @@VegaO2k Much more those available than Alpinas since there were only so much of them made.

  • @tomgamer
    @tomgamer 2 роки тому +71

    I just want to compliment you, you are a beast. I keep thinking, "wow, these are such long videos, why doesn't he just cut them up" but then you just keep pumping out these videos so frequently and at such a high quality that there is no point in cutting them into multiple ones. You create more awesome content solo then most other automotive youtubers put out with an entire team. Keep up the awesome work!

  • @henryatkinson1479
    @henryatkinson1479 2 роки тому +14

    Robert is wonderful. If you ever need more marching work, please keep him involved.

  • @basharalnasser
    @basharalnasser 2 роки тому +42

    Proud to hear that a mechanic from my country, Bahrain, contributed to one of my favourite channels on UA-cam. The work you're doing on project Chicago is beyond just simple restoration. It's truly impressive and I'm sure gives many of us motivation to do more on our own cars. So, thank you.

  • @carenthusiast746
    @carenthusiast746 2 роки тому +212

    Dude! You are the most entertaining car enthusiast person i've ever watched here on UA-cam! I love your videos so much and the amount of experience your have, it's enough to make my jaw drop. Even though it can be hard some times to be able to trust another person to work on a expensive project, there's always a light at the end. Thank you Sreten for making thousands of people happy and sharing your valuble information. You are going to finish project Chicago in a matter of seconds and reach 1 mil subscribers by the end of this year! Thank you:)

    • @bixou69
      @bixou69 2 роки тому +3

      you forgot good taste in 80's porn music

  • @lrs3
    @lrs3 2 роки тому +60

    Project Chicago: The gift that keeps on giving

    • @JMUDoc
      @JMUDoc 2 роки тому +2

      The gift the keeps on TAKING, more like!

    • @VirtuaDesign
      @VirtuaDesign 2 роки тому +3

      Should have been renamed Project Sh!tcago by now. 😅

    • @paulopazevedo
      @paulopazevedo 2 роки тому +2

      @@VirtuaDesign Which has a nice portuguese twist to it :-D

    • @VirtuaDesign
      @VirtuaDesign 2 роки тому +1

      @@paulopazevedo yep, absolutely does! 😅
      Maybe the next portuguese twist is having Robert rectify a crankshaft for the "rissoles" guy! Portugal car*lho! 👌🏻

    • @orfeous
      @orfeous 2 роки тому +3

      Tuned by Streten, Streten Edition, Re-engineered by Streten, Powered by Streten

  • @geoffwatches
    @geoffwatches 2 роки тому +31

    I've learned so much from these vids. Feel like I could pretty much rebuild the top end of my s55 tomorrow if needs be. Definitely couldn't even get the trunk open, but I feel like could.

  • @user-ro2rm6zw8l
    @user-ro2rm6zw8l 2 роки тому +11

    Just have to say...love your videos!! I'm a retired BMW Master Tech, and you rock, man. Thanks for taking the time to make these. I can work on my own cars in my garage (where my computer is) and watch while I work at the same time.

  • @bikeomatic8005
    @bikeomatic8005 2 роки тому +140

    The polish sellers response was exactly what I expected it would be 😂. Some things just never change even after few decades 😉

    • @OfficialSIRTRAPRELOADED
      @OfficialSIRTRAPRELOADED 2 роки тому +25

      I bought two engines from polish dudes and let me tell you one thing. Never ever I will buy used engines from these dudes. Both engines where in bad condition and the excuses are always the same. But in germany there are also a lot of shot engines around sadly.. Now I got way better gear to actually check engines before buying them or at least bore scope them and know what to look for. Not trusting blindly on the sellers response. Too bad a lot of these engine sellers scam innocent people that don't know better and mostly get away with it too.

    • @baartii_
      @baartii_ 2 роки тому +31

      I am from Poland and I am ashamed of the people from my country. The country itself is beautiful, but the people here....

    • @OfficialSIRTRAPRELOADED
      @OfficialSIRTRAPRELOADED 2 роки тому +29

      @@baartii_ the normal people are not bad, I met a few polish people and they where mostly normal and chill people. It‘s just the sellers for the car parts sections that are 90% just scammers sadly…

    • @baartii_
      @baartii_ 2 роки тому +7

      @@OfficialSIRTRAPRELOADED sadly this is true

    • @bikeomatic8005
      @bikeomatic8005 2 роки тому +20

      @@OfficialSIRTRAPRELOADED any type of sellers that sell used stuff will always, always mess around, steer clear I'd say

  • @seven5oul
    @seven5oul 2 роки тому +21

    Why do always have a smile in my face when I see a notification about m539 ??? I’m I the only one ? Or I’m I crazy in love with this channel

  • @Andy_Dines
    @Andy_Dines 2 роки тому +1

    I feel like a lot of UA-cam creators "jump the shark", so to speak, when they start getting to fancy with such things as a camera man. I think it only adds to the charm of these videos, knowing that Sreten does all the camera work himself :)

  • @alindorindicu3732
    @alindorindicu3732 Місяць тому

    The N62B44 block was the obvious choice for me 😁 Thanks for the videos!

  • @PedroM125
    @PedroM125 2 роки тому +164

    Always good to see that project is going into a good point! Shout out to Robert to going to Madeira, Portugal! Big hug from Portugal!

    • @Gyroma43
      @Gyroma43 2 роки тому

      When you see someone mentioning your country

    • @tanujkaushic4137
      @tanujkaushic4137 2 роки тому

      Helloo from India Robert !!! I hope to be on your level someday. Don't know if you'll see this comment, I think it is worth putting my opinion out there :)

  • @sebastiansmela3608
    @sebastiansmela3608 2 роки тому +48

    After 4 weeks of watching only M539 Restorations on YT, I am finally up to date with the channel. Now I’m going to eat my blueberry muffin, drink coffee and one eye watching the new episodes, second eye buying broken BMW on Copart 😂
    Great work, you are my new favourite channel on YT! 😂

    • @vasili70
      @vasili70 2 роки тому +3

      And if you are like me, before I start working on my BMW I have to say "Coming up....".

    • @sebastiansmela3608
      @sebastiansmela3608 2 роки тому +3

      @@vasili70 do you also say “slap me silly and call me willy” when your engine has no leaks? 😂😂😂

    • @vasili70
      @vasili70 2 роки тому +1

      @@sebastiansmela3608 I haven't used that one yet, but when I get all the leaks stopped, I may....😄

    • @sebastiansmela3608
      @sebastiansmela3608 2 роки тому

      @@vasili70 when my stop leaking I will too 😆

  • @526victorg
    @526victorg 2 роки тому +8

    I am waiting with bated breath for episode 10 of project Chicago, I don't own a BMW, never had one, but you certainly make me want to own one, even if it is used.

  • @nelsonbarbosa8200
    @nelsonbarbosa8200 2 роки тому +13

    I don't remember when I started seeing your channel. I got hooked when I saw your fixation on cleaning everything spit new and polished . I now think of this channel as a part of my routine. Thank you again. Hope you do this for a very, very long time.

    • @tanujkaushic4137
      @tanujkaushic4137 2 роки тому

      Please do keep doing this for an extremely long time !!!!! Can't wait to learn more from your channel !!!!!!

  • @rrs_13
    @rrs_13 2 роки тому +41

    Robert's a lovely guy moving to a lovely place. He'll like that BMW's are so popular in Portugal not so much that the majority of them are diesel.
    I hope he will be well received wherever he chooses to live.
    bem-vindo

  • @oliverkromann1902
    @oliverkromann1902 2 роки тому +37

    if you don't plan on using the "dead" block i would suggest making it into a table like on the old top gear show

    • @sotgee
      @sotgee 2 роки тому

      i hear Alpina' s make good BBq's

    • @StratoArticA
      @StratoArticA 2 роки тому +3

      You can Make it ultimate cup Holder for a family car

    • @sotgee
      @sotgee 2 роки тому

      But will it hold 8 coffee cups lol

    • @alexbrown1995
      @alexbrown1995 2 роки тому +1

      @@sotgee Especially good at smoking the steaks....

    • @josephinesoldatos2307
      @josephinesoldatos2307 2 роки тому

      @@alexbrown1995 scrap it

  • @StefanPoluga92
    @StefanPoluga92 Рік тому +3

    Aside from amazing mechanic skills, creative and fun content, you gotta also appreciate the edition in his videos. The timing he descreetly tells a joke is just flawless.
    Thank you Sreten, I'm so glad I found your channel!

  • @Alan_Edwards
    @Alan_Edwards 2 місяці тому +1

    Man that block and pistons are in great shape. You got a pretty good deal brother. Really enjoyed hearing all the details on how you thought thru your options and came to your decisions...all made sense to me and I would have done the same.
    The entire process you went through is one I can appreciate. I am pretty much the same way. More than once I went in to do a simple repair and found a bigger problem I could have put a band aid on to get by for along time if not permanently....but no no no, let's spend the money, many times I did not have, and do it right. In the end, like you, I enjoyed the challenges and doing all the detailed work. Many people can not appreciate it, but I and many of your fans can for sure.

  • @ilfordino-fordfiestatutori8725
    @ilfordino-fordfiestatutori8725 2 роки тому +10

    Best saturday in a while!

  • @richardwhiterose5655
    @richardwhiterose5655 2 роки тому +49

    This man is pumping out great content with such speed my bmw fixed itself

    • @slavko321
      @slavko321 2 роки тому +5

      Good idea, i keep watching for preventative maintenance.

    • @X3R0D3D
      @X3R0D3D 2 роки тому +2

      not mine... my e34 is still needs a clutch :(

    • @antejukic9110
      @antejukic9110 2 роки тому

      @@slavko321 hahahahha kralju!

  • @PavelNr1
    @PavelNr1 2 роки тому

    Watching Sreten working on his BMW after working on my BMw for the whole day... best day ever!

  • @davisjaudzems2277
    @davisjaudzems2277 2 роки тому +33

    When he removed the oil sump, the first thing that came to my mind was "Oh, there is no nail in the oil sump".

  • @lukasboles8658
    @lukasboles8658 2 роки тому +94

    Haha, I knew that Alpina is cheating about this. Told ya. That is great it gives hope that you can repair something with much lower costs. Best wishes to end the project and repair this amazing machine. Lukasz

    • @chriszichriszable
      @chriszichriszable 2 роки тому +4

      and now I understand why they told him not to do it in the beginning.. they were afraid it all came out!

  • @jarno3000
    @jarno3000 2 роки тому +33

    Now that's an interesting episode!

  • @harared831
    @harared831 2 роки тому

    Sunday, fun day. Thanks for teaching us the hidden secrets of BMW'S.

  • @ciprian969
    @ciprian969 2 роки тому +5

    I can't believe how quickly those 55 minutes went by. Absolutely fascinating! You have my total admiration for the passion you put in projects like this. Thank you for the great content, Streten.

  • @notagunfreak8146
    @notagunfreak8146 2 роки тому +107

    Fantastic video shame Alpina uses crazy prizes for "just a standard engine" when this thing fires up it would be a major middle finger to Alpina :)

    • @StratoArticA
      @StratoArticA 2 роки тому +4

      BMW owns alpina now. Hope BMW won't hate sreten 😂

    • @Random-nf7qb
      @Random-nf7qb 2 роки тому +17

      @@StratoArticA They have nothing to hate him for.
      They can only hate themselves for being a shitty company

    • @StratoArticA
      @StratoArticA 2 роки тому

      @@Random-nf7qb yeah hope it makes an impact 👌🏼

    • @philippk1125
      @philippk1125 2 роки тому +7

      @@Random-nf7qb True, I loved BMW but it all turned to a shit show. Have you seen the new 7? I bet you have, it's actually disgusting and a disgrace to the company.
      I always drove a 7er and I would never buy the new one..

    • @Randomeris1
      @Randomeris1 2 роки тому +2

      @@Random-nf7qb I love this comment

  • @joshuad1716
    @joshuad1716 2 роки тому +55

    For some reason when you said “if you’re going to judge me for not having an alpina engine, just know I tried” that made me really sad lmao

    • @kleemanjad
      @kleemanjad 2 роки тому +3

      Was hoping that the resleeved block can be saved. But seeing it progress is awesome

    • @bramboerjan8514
      @bramboerjan8514 2 роки тому

      Man, if the only thing Alpine did was put another crankshaft into the car, fuck them

    • @orfeous
      @orfeous 2 роки тому +2

      @@kleemanjad if i remembered the machine guy wanted to fix the block for free

  • @kirkjamestkirk
    @kirkjamestkirk 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent episode. AWESOME ! ...and someone added in wikipedia on Alpina H1 : "M539 Restorations mentioned in his Alpina B7 Project Chicago restoration [12] that the Alpina H1 block is exactly the same as N62B44 with the changed that were made using different forged crankshaft and forged piston with different shape design to also lower the compression ratio."

  • @Corso03
    @Corso03 2 роки тому

    noticed: when Sreten is in a good mood, he sings at work. and thanks for another cool and informative vidео!!))

  • @paulwooller4524
    @paulwooller4524 2 роки тому +21

    You deserve a medal for your tenacity in sticking with this project. I’m quite frankly surprised at the seemingly unreliable Alpina engine.
    I really think that this is the best way to spend a Sunday afternoon totally absorbed in your antics with this car. Great stuff!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇬🇧

  • @samfinkelstein5841
    @samfinkelstein5841 2 роки тому +23

    As far as blocks go.. this is the standard when a company such as alpina, roush, SVT do. They use the stock block and beef up the internals for more power compared to non branded versions.

  • @mikaeljonsson4686
    @mikaeljonsson4686 2 роки тому

    I always find myself smiling when watching one of Sretens videos... ☺

  • @FranklynWhite68
    @FranklynWhite68 2 роки тому

    Man, I just KNEW that engine was the missing piece for “Project Chicago”. I’ve been emotionally invested in your channel since the first video I’ve watched.
    Hope project “Chi-Town” is up and running ing soon sir.
    Motown.

  • @johnnychimpo7539
    @johnnychimpo7539 2 роки тому +49

    Did you ever think about the blocks being the same? It seems to obvious now that it’s been realized. So technically this car is still going to be oem. You are just using an oe block.

    • @M539Restorations
      @M539Restorations  2 роки тому +35

      I did when I first realized the original engine is bad. Everyone I asked said they were different and I thought sleeving the block was a better solution so I didn't pursue it further.

    • @rmc5378
      @rmc5378 2 роки тому

      @@M539Restorations noticed the B6 & B7 use the N62B44A block according to the Alpina parts catalogue.
      It does mention different part numbers for the conrods based on engine number....but you probably already spotted that.
      Keep up the good work, defo entertaining.

  • @ivmilicevic
    @ivmilicevic 2 роки тому +109

    Sreten single handedly destroying used alpina market :)
    Well what can you do, they did it to themselves

    • @mladendenni7062
      @mladendenni7062 2 роки тому +13

      f alpina

    • @OfficialSIRTRAPRELOADED
      @OfficialSIRTRAPRELOADED 2 роки тому +21

      I rather buy any M car from that era and deal with bearing issues then to deal with constantly leaking valve stem seals, leaking super charger, scored cylinder walls, leaking coolant and engine oil around the engine just to name a few things. The first two things happened to me as a former B5 owner.

    • @R0mst3r
      @R0mst3r 2 роки тому +3

      And now I'm scared they'll sue him :(

    • @doofwop
      @doofwop 2 роки тому +2

      Alpina sucks. I have known this for years and years.

    • @0MFG0
      @0MFG0 2 роки тому +1

      @@R0mst3r for what?😃

  • @chrisboldtm
    @chrisboldtm 2 роки тому +11

    "What's a little coolant among friends, right?" You have such epic comments! We say the same in Ro. in various contexts. Much praise for the awesome way you work!

  • @biggierat6246
    @biggierat6246 2 роки тому +12

    In the USA when building a performance motors we use a toque plate bolted to the block when boring & honing to simulate the head as it will change measurements. The main caps are also installed. Those marks in the cylinders are from the piston thrust at combustion. I think you might be right on in your thinking about why these motors fail.

  • @TheKasperlkopf
    @TheKasperlkopf 2 роки тому +9

    18:30 i shat myself and spilled my beer

    • @HNedel
      @HNedel 2 роки тому

      Yup, engine porn 😆

    • @JonZa965
      @JonZa965 2 роки тому

      Thank god i am not the only one 😂

  • @OwenLewis67
    @OwenLewis67 2 роки тому +12

    Signed up as a Patreon and was rewarded with this. awesome.

  • @PK-ym4ve
    @PK-ym4ve 2 роки тому +11

    make sure you take the rings, bearings, rods and crank to the machine at with the pistons. you are changing the bob weight of the motor and it will need balancing! You may luck out without balancing but knowing your standards of perfection you should have the assembly re balanced. great video!!

    • @tanujkaushic4137
      @tanujkaushic4137 2 роки тому +1

      Upvoting and commenting, because this makes sense to me. Somebody please prove me wrong in the comments if this is incorrect.

    • @PK-ym4ve
      @PK-ym4ve 2 роки тому

      I meant to say take the rotating assembly to the "machine shop". Sorry for the typo.

  • @denniscarreno8151
    @denniscarreno8151 2 роки тому

    Streten....you're the man of Jack of all trades!

  • @muki_hi
    @muki_hi 2 роки тому +122

    Robert is such a nice guy, did he do the job on the e60 oil pan?

    • @M539Restorations
      @M539Restorations  2 роки тому +66

      Yes. Lovely guy.

    • @valvemonky4734
      @valvemonky4734 2 роки тому +11

      @@M539Restorations and he is moving too a fantastic island funny coment about the banners if i heard correctly

    • @MRTNLZL
      @MRTNLZL 2 роки тому +3

      it was bananas, or ?

    • @RicardoECV
      @RicardoECV 2 роки тому +2

      @@MRTNLZL Bananas 👍

  • @angelodagnolo984
    @angelodagnolo984 2 роки тому +34

    Back in my day, we used rebore the block and use oversized pistons, never had one ever fail.
    New tech is not always the best way.
    Love your channel man, keep up the great work.

    • @GoldenCroc
      @GoldenCroc 2 роки тому +4

      This is not possible with this kind of block, I dont think.

    • @extramen7
      @extramen7 2 роки тому +2

      only in cast iron block

    • @philbrutsche8928
      @philbrutsche8928 2 роки тому +1

      Reboring the block assumes that there is enough material to remove. Not a good assumption. Some engine blocks don't have enough tolerance for that.

    • @philbrutsche8928
      @philbrutsche8928 2 роки тому +3

      @@extramen7 Even cast iron blocks have their limits. It is certainly possible to rebore one far enough that they loose integrity.

    • @juggnautbitch
      @juggnautbitch 2 роки тому

      @@philbrutsche8928 80 thou is the usual limit on cast blocks.

  • @Steveindajeep
    @Steveindajeep 2 роки тому +2

    Your persistence with the Alpina project is admirable if not astounding. Hats off to you.

  • @crisholmurb007
    @crisholmurb007 Рік тому +1

    This channel is certainly one of the best car channels on UA-cam. Amazing content.

  • @FootToPedal
    @FootToPedal 2 роки тому +45

    You have a lot of dedication to your projects Sreten, it's great to see! Such a shame about the other alternatives, but this solution seems to be a very promising route. Keep up the great work!

  • @tre_2EC0
    @tre_2EC0 2 роки тому +81

    I loved getting to watch the machinist at work! Also great news for the enthusiast community that you discovered the BMW block and Alpina block are identical! Is there anything you can do to ensure that the Alpina pistons won't wear out the N62 block like they do in the H1 block?

    • @M539Restorations
      @M539Restorations  2 роки тому +102

      I'll copy/paste my comment here too as it explains this a bit deeper :) Can be a number of things why they are failing, flawed design, tight clearances for forced induction (piston to wall, piston ring gap...), bad maintenance, improper use by the owner... They generally seem like fragile engines that won't take any abuse or neglect like other BMW engines do. In my opinion, one of the biggest contributors is the factory used N62 105°C thermostat for better emissions and fuel consumption. That means it'll sometimes see temperatures as high as 110-115°C when under heavy load and when you have such tight clearances, it's a very bad recipe. Look at any high power M engine, none of them run that insanely hot, most use 79°C thermostats. Then you have Alpina prescribed oil 5W30 (could be wrong, but I think some even saw 0W30), that's not good enough. Again, M engines of that era use 10W60 which offers far superior protection under heavy loads. That's why when we put this engine together, we'll rock that 95°C thermostat and 5W50 oil. It will help long-term. The goal now is to get this turd back on the road and do so without giving millions to Alpina for new parts. If we can get 100k km out of this engine, that would be a win. Given 15 other cars that I have, it'd take me 100 years to cover that distance with one car anyway. :D

    • @tre_2EC0
      @tre_2EC0 2 роки тому +4

      @@M539Restorations great to hear! It seems that you've thought of everything once again :) I think the thermostat will be a big help. Common belief is that because BMW used a higher temp thermostat in the M62 than the S62, the timing chain guides go much quicker in the M62 bc of the higher temps.

    • @ciprianmihai4821
      @ciprianmihai4821 2 роки тому

      Loved the question, orgasmed at the answer.

  • @rogier151
    @rogier151 2 роки тому +1

    I felt sorry for you watching this series, props for continuing and giving a legendary car the love it deserves.

  • @deliawolfe
    @deliawolfe 2 роки тому +1

    I watch all your episodes, noting how many pains you take to get things right. And while your work is impeccable, someone, somewhere, no matter their reputation or recommendation, "drops the ball." You seem to take this as merely a minor setback, redoubling your efforts, and never, never-ever giving up. Or, as my Father used to say, "Never let the car win." Much respect from Northern California.

  • @Hopgop1
    @Hopgop1 2 роки тому +18

    Glad you're ploughing on with this, especially at this pace considering your setbacks. Also strangely proud that a UK engine was looked after!

  • @thewatchersofthewood3530
    @thewatchersofthewood3530 2 роки тому +6

    Oh yea, Saturday looking up! I had a serious back injury so now I live vicariously to get all the mechanical shenanigans from the best BMW channel on UA-cam.

  • @Therealrichdude
    @Therealrichdude 2 роки тому

    "One gurly man" 🤣🤣🤣 This dude is never wrong

  • @FATTYDH216
    @FATTYDH216 2 роки тому +1

    Sreten, you are one of the BEST channels on UA-cam . 👏👏👏👏 love your stuff , looking forward to this build too . 👌

  • @erqadezz
    @erqadezz 2 роки тому +38

    I love your work and dedication man, keep it going. Cheers!

  • @PolPotCoppola
    @PolPotCoppola 2 роки тому +31

    This project perfectly explains how it feels to own an Alfa Romeo.

    • @oscarwilde5473
      @oscarwilde5473 2 роки тому +1

      Boban ... how right you are - I am one of many who have fired a conrod through the sump of a twin spark on the drive home from purchasing a phase one GTV, quite recently - "ka-pocka-ka-pockata-pockata-POCKATA-KAABLLAAMMMO!!!!!!!!!!"

    • @ilfordino-fordfiestatutori8725
      @ilfordino-fordfiestatutori8725 2 роки тому +2

      They're not as bad as this.

    • @oscarwilde5473
      @oscarwilde5473 2 роки тому

      asgerms ... well, as I wrote earlier, I was driving my "new to me" 27 year old Alfa GTV home on a 200 mile return journey, and at the half way point I gave it a little tickle and it returned the favour by firing a conrod through the sump tray, spraying a car width and height by deminishing foray of oily engine guts, with the sound, "ka-pocka-ka-pockata-pockata-POCKATA-KAABLLAAMMMO!!!!!!!!!!"
      I suspect that mine was your old car five whole years passed you caring for it - and it's best - after being wragged around a track at the top of it's lungs on the over-run.
      I also believe the reason they get to cheap and unreliable in old age is because servicing them is best with specialists with know-how where you pay someone hard cash for a timing belt, water pump, tensioner and variator, which is tucked off down the side of the inner wing with a couple of inches, needing means to get under a car that has four inches of under crawl space to unbolt and lift the engine in situation - a it different from the average mainstream sporty numbers that do double the mileage on belt changes.
      Anyway, they get left, and the car is a game of Russian roulette on every drive, just like my heap, which was being nursed home like any other number of other gorgeous bodied Alfa Romeo's I've loved and built in the 40 years I've been professionally building classic Alfa's for pleasure ... because, I suspect, you're as nuts, and nuts about them as I am, but don't tell me that they can't break in a horrible expensive engine replacement way, and break your heart and your wallet in the process ... 🤗 ...
      edit - and you give the guy a reply and, scared of their own shadow, they delete themselves. This is definitely an Alfa owner I was replying to. Please all carry on as though nothing happened ...

  • @Edgedrifle
    @Edgedrifle Місяць тому +1

    My M18 high torque 1/2 impact is one of my most prized possessions, that thing laughs in the face of all bolts and nuts

  • @Rockport1911
    @Rockport1911 2 роки тому +28

    Donor engine is in great condition, someone loved their 6series :) Hope this way works out for You and the Alpine.
    It suprises me that the similarity regarding the blocks isnt widely known, but better late ( and well documented here) than never...

  • @Noel4Lyfe
    @Noel4Lyfe 2 роки тому +6

    Anyone noticed that when he started checking the good engine his mood completely changes, from slightly depressed and annoyed to the happiest man in Frankfurt.

    • @KhaledTheSaudiHawkII
      @KhaledTheSaudiHawkII 2 роки тому +1

      Hey Maxi. I have a random question for you if you can help me please. Im on the verge of buying a solid German machine (most likely a Mercedes Benz) and Im about to pour my life savings on it. Im thinking about getting an EQS 580 but I live in a very hot country (Saudi Arabia). Im concerned about the massive battery catching on fire in the middle of July/August where the temperature on the road is well above 60C°.
      Our local dealer doesnt import MB EVs. I searched the internet for answers about the safety of the vehicle in such a harsh environment but I couldnt find anything useful. Do you happen to have any helpful info/resources about the matter either in English or German (I speak a little German and I can read OK)?
      I have a 2013 S AMG that has been extremely reliable and good to me that I bought in early 2013. Now it has 200k KM on it, I think it’s time to let it go for something that goes with the times and I intend to keep it for at least 7yrs.
      Any thoughts? As I said I know it’s random but I always appreciate the community spirit where I can learn from people from different countries/walks of life. Thanks!

    • @Noel4Lyfe
      @Noel4Lyfe 2 роки тому +1

      @@KhaledTheSaudiHawkII you shouldn't worry, if automakers don't test batteries to their limit there could be legal penalties. So most likely the batteries won't catch fire but their lifespan might degrade because of the hot weather. I'm not really a MB guy but they do build some rather good machines, and getting an AMG that's reliable is exceptionally rare. But nonetheless, the batteries will not overheat unless you're driving for long hours in the blistering heat, or the coolant fails to do its job.

    • @KhaledTheSaudiHawkII
      @KhaledTheSaudiHawkII 2 роки тому +1

      @@Noel4Lyfe Thanks. That’s reassuring and I share your sentiment. I’ll wait until a few batches are rolled out and obvious technical glitches are dealt with in later batches before I make my purchase.
      As to AMG reliability, my recipe was to do preventative maintenance on time. I’ve always kept up with the scheduled 15k maintenance intervals. Never overdue. And I always do it at the dealership so they can inspect and replace failing parts before they do fail. I’ve changed my fuel pump/filter combo 5 times in 9 years of ownership. Water pump was replaced twice. Radiator was replaced once. Spark plugs, belts were replaced every 30km. Camshaft position sensors were replaced once as well. At 200km, I replaced a bunch of hardened pipes and rotten gaskets all over the engine bay area because they were failing and about to cause a catastrophic engine failure.
      Thus far, I spent more than 60,000 Euros on maintenance alone. My cost per km is about 1.25 Euros which is a lot but I LOVE this machine. Sadly, I realize it’s time to let her go because I know more critical parts are due to fail from now on.
      Thanks again.

    • @Noel4Lyfe
      @Noel4Lyfe 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, no need to thank me. Just wait a few weeks or months and you should be able to get your new EQS. If you don't want to get rid of the AMG, you can always park it somewhere safe, but make sure store the car in a dry and safe place. Safe as in, not getting your car broken into or stolen. Also for the EQS, you should get the coolant replaced every 25-30,000 km.

    • @KhaledTheSaudiHawkII
      @KhaledTheSaudiHawkII 2 роки тому

      @@Noel4Lyfe 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @koospopies3397
    @koospopies3397 2 роки тому

    My most favorite UA-cam channel, thank you SIR !!!!!!!

  • @TheSupergunman3000
    @TheSupergunman3000 2 роки тому

    When you said 15:04 Bahrain I was extremely shocked, we have an Alpina modifying garage in OUR country. STUNNED

  • @RemmoSRednaS
    @RemmoSRednaS 2 роки тому +11

    You are a freakin’ hero. I love your persistence to get project Chicago on the road. You truly deserve it. Can’t wait for the nex episode. Go get them man!

  • @IMAND93
    @IMAND93 2 роки тому +94

    Quite informative episode. Two questions though !
    - If Alpina B7(engine) is self-destructive, and Alpina uses the same block as stock 645i, doesn't that mean that the problem is in the pistons and crankshaft ?
    - If you put the rotating system from Alpina doesn't that mean the engine is going to go bad again ?

    • @NFStheStig
      @NFStheStig 2 роки тому +15

      My thoughts exactly.

    • @xile321
      @xile321 2 роки тому +7

      Yea that's what I was wondering too. If the block is the same, what causes the Alpina engines to blow up so early.

    • @jasperdemann5936
      @jasperdemann5936 2 роки тому +33

      He said the issue is caused by a too small piston skirt to cylinder wall clearance, amongst a couple of other causes, so when the piston gets to TDC and it rocks before commencing the down stroke, contact is made and BOOM!
      They measured the bores, and because this is a used engine they have a greater clearance so they should be okay.
      Sreten has addressed your questions in a comment somewhere here, although I can't find it now.
      It's there somewhere, though!

    • @IMAND93
      @IMAND93 2 роки тому +1

      @@jasperdemann5936 Thank you !

    • @Xtoxinlolinecronomicon
      @Xtoxinlolinecronomicon 2 роки тому +9

      @@jasperdemann5936 The comment is his pinned one. Every bit of information is written there.

  • @bjc1771
    @bjc1771 2 роки тому

    Love your "rotisserie built chicken," you are a blast to watch and very informative.

  • @K4rN1v00L
    @K4rN1v00L 5 місяців тому

    I watched the entire E 92 M3 series and now I've made it up to here in this series let me say this.. this dude's dedication to these projects is absolutely unreal I can't stop watching

  • @KhalidSalahie
    @KhalidSalahie 2 роки тому +6

    I’m so happy that you found a solution and that the series will continue. Can’t wait for the autobahn blast 🔥🔥

  • @Blahshog
    @Blahshog 2 роки тому +8

    Awesome news! Was really good to see Robert again, he's a very clever (& modest Guy), looking forward to the Big Build! Bring it on!

  • @Peter.A-A
    @Peter.A-A 2 роки тому

    This is way better than any movie. Cant wait until next episode. Cola and popcorn are ready. 👍👍

  • @TheSquizzles
    @TheSquizzles Рік тому

    I LOVE watching these videos. Don’t ever stop please

  • @clonetrooper576
    @clonetrooper576 2 роки тому +6

    Yea anyone else would have junked this car ages ago, but Sreten doesnt give up! And thats why we are here!!! Thank you!

  • @MapOfEurasia
    @MapOfEurasia 2 роки тому +18

    Great episode Sreten!! And that's a great news/discovery for Alpina owners!

  • @therealpaddy
    @therealpaddy 2 роки тому +1

    By far the best channel on here 🙌

  • @MastaBruce13
    @MastaBruce13 2 роки тому

    Man of Focus, Commitment and Sheer F...... Will!

  • @khalidalamri6566
    @khalidalamri6566 2 роки тому +15

    Can I just say before watching what happens, I never felt excited to see UA-cam video like this one. I hope everything goes well.

    • @KhaledTheSaudiHawkII
      @KhaledTheSaudiHawkII 2 роки тому +1

      اي والله كلنا نتمنى انه ات قوز ويل يبو خلود

  • @gavdcookuk512
    @gavdcookuk512 2 роки тому +9

    I actually thought for a moment you were going to flush the turd but noooo…. Intelligent solutions and a cost effective work around instead, it’s going to be fascinating to see how it drives.

    • @tanujkaushic4137
      @tanujkaushic4137 2 роки тому +1

      I loled at his hard !!! 1000% with you on this. And yes, I'm soooooo glad the turd wasn't flushed xD @M539 Restorations

  • @ftlbaby
    @ftlbaby 2 роки тому

    Superb intro: in this episode... we will continue doing that.

  • @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur
    @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur 2 роки тому +1

    This is an exceptional episode, the fact that people from all parts of the world solve the puzzle (Troy, Robert) (Marian) (and a man from Dubai) to fix a troubled alpina engine design is mind blowing.

  • @bwhobackk
    @bwhobackk 2 роки тому +24

    The machine shop part was especially cool. I end up watching a lot of that type of content anyway, (This Old Tony, Hand Tool Rescue, AvE, etc). Nice to see the venn-diagrams overlap in one of your episodes!

  • @gasparini76
    @gasparini76 2 роки тому +4

    When you go through a 'learning curve' ... first step is to understand why your first build did not suceed. There is nothing blocking you to continue building engines. You do a good work. Just need to adjust your mindset and accept that the first step is not to put the engine back together but instead to understand the root cause (or all the possible routes) that you could do better next time. Don't give up man!

  • @silvernoob1603
    @silvernoob1603 2 роки тому

    18:30....LOL the music was GOLD

  • @walterthorne4819
    @walterthorne4819 2 роки тому

    I’ve owned several 12 cyl BMWs… Sreten has answered all my questions ..many thanks.

  • @TheLuisg92
    @TheLuisg92 2 роки тому +3

    Project Colone! Always good to see it again, especially hauling stuff reliably and serving no matter what. That Alpina could learn a couple of things from that Touring about being a solid machine.

  • @cidkplas
    @cidkplas 2 роки тому +12

    That was interesting AF ! It's a good thing to check parts numbers, we can learn a lot with this, i do this a lot with VAG parts, and i'm glad to see it also works perfectly with BMW.
    I really enjoy this series, you give your absolute best and even if it does not work the first time you do not give up. That's a real life lesson Sreten, you are really great in this.
    I'm currently rebuilding a M52B28TU on a 1999 E39 528i with 296k kms with my uncle, and i can say we have learnt a whole lot thanks to you, this made the process way easier and really enjoyable.

    • @retrocomputeruser
      @retrocomputeruser 2 роки тому +1

      I bought a 1998 528i in 2005 and owned it for 16 years before I had to let it go last year due to undersill rot ( typical UK weather). It was the most reliable and comfiest car I have ever owned.
      Good luck with the engine rebuild.

    • @cidkplas
      @cidkplas 2 роки тому +2

      @@retrocomputeruser thanks ! we bought it for cheap, but we have all its history since 1999. Body is rust free except a bit under the sill near front right door.
      I never had a E39 before, and i'm amazed of its build quality to be honest. Really well made and the ergonomics is on point. I love my old S3, but this 528i is on another planet.
      I understand why people love E39 so much.

  • @aram442
    @aram442 2 роки тому

    I dont know why but I can listen to that german guy all day. he is so calm when he is explaining things.

  • @ahmedabdulhameed8615
    @ahmedabdulhameed8615 2 роки тому

    It was so nice to hear that somebody from bahrain helped u ❤️ bh 🇧🇭

  • @tyburcjusz
    @tyburcjusz 2 роки тому +37

    hey Sreten, I've been a fan since almost 2 years now, and I must say that being from Poland as soon as you said the engine comes from my country I was a bit scared. yes we can give some amazing services, and well priced too. you mentioned rims refurbishing or even car painting - it's OK. but buying used parts from PL... well that's risky :( hope you don't hold a grudge! :)

    • @krzysztofmazurkiewicz9831
      @krzysztofmazurkiewicz9831 2 роки тому +2

      Nie musisz pisać po angielsku, koleś sobie użyje tłumacza, tutaj te firmy to partacze i oszuści, cwaniaczki i dorobkiewicze, tak silnik z nalotem 80k byłby jak nowy a z japonii to ulepy sprowadzają które zarastają mchem, bo prawdziwe sztuki Japonskie mają gigantyczne kwoty i są dla prawdziwych kolekcjonerów. Ta alpina co zniej wyjeli silnik i opchneli pewnie byla z gieldy klasyków :)

    • @M539Restorations
      @M539Restorations  2 роки тому +47

      I've bought a lot of used parts from Poland and always had a great experience. As for this engine, the seller was at least nice, took it back without any arguing and issued a refund, so all good. :)

    • @user-ef6dh8gx1g
      @user-ef6dh8gx1g 2 роки тому

      @@M539Restorations I don't understand why the Polish people are also so stereotypical about the stuff from Poland. I think they do not check all engines and give a guarantee to give them back if something wrong. In Poland, you can buy a lot of parts and cars that are very hard to get in different countries for that low price.

    • @leemilica
      @leemilica 2 роки тому +1

      @@M539Restorations oh, by the way, it's the same for Serbia. Everything I bought there was somehow defective. Rarely you get quality stuff there. Just a beware for next purchases.

    • @TheSiekieramotyka
      @TheSiekieramotyka 2 роки тому +2

      What a unfair opinion about Poland from guy from Poland (shame on you !)... have done some statistics about that ? Used parts are used and that's why you can not be sure what you will get. Doesn't matter if it is from Poland or Germany or Italy... and this example is also against you, because seller took it back without any issue, ehh...