First of all, thank you for loving Thailand. And I am a Thai person who loves this country very much. because we have Thai language have delicious food There is a good and beautiful culture. You have to come and experience it for yourself to know that Thailand is amazing.
Chiang Mai is so “doable.” Less culture shock in CM. Been “In-N-Out” of living in Chiang Mai nine times over the past ten years. Waiting for hurdles to ease.. it’s been twenty-five months. 🙏🏼
There is a good reason why Chiang Mai has been called "The Rose Of The North" for decades by both Thai people and Westerners. I noticed this when I started to watch more historical Thai drama series. Whenever Chiang Mai was mentioned, it was spoken about as a 'special place' where you might take your partner for a romantic weekend away.
Great points...and definitely agree with a majority of them on the why and why nots. One of the best Chiang Mai descriptions I ever heard was, "Chiang Mai is a beach town without a beach."
I am moving abroad in 4 1/2 years, and I am debating between Thailand and the Philippines as a 1st run starting point for retirement. While I am sure my plans will remain fluid as I experience long-term life in the region. This video is exactly what I need for the kind of information I am looking for. Thank you!
Thailand is way better. More liberal in many ways and people friendly and don't steal. Food is really good here too! If you like the bar scene, ladies, ladyboys, whatever you like, you will find it here in Thailand. Moved here a year ago because I like LB's and I am so happy I did!
Great insight as into why you live in Chiang Mai Brett, cheers for the video. I'm going to Chiang Mai in May so I might see you around. I cant believe you have never been to Phuket but i can understand why, its not the quietest place. Stay safe mate
@@robertspence4729 you cant just say that, tell me why and where would you recommend I go for a visit. I'm going to be in Thailand for 90 days to explore and see what's best. Cheers
Hi Brett ," one man's meat is another man's poison". I wouldn't trade Bangkok for any other part of Thailand and I wouldn't trade Huai Khwang for another part of Banhkok. Another great video by the way. Looking forward to having a pint with you when you get down here to Huai Khwang.
Hey, Brett! I agree 100 percent with your reasons for living in Chiang Mai. When I first started coming to Thailand, CM was the first place I visited and still to this day is my favorite place in Thailand. Sure, I love the beaches in the south, but the hiking there is amazing and it's so easy to get around in the city. I'm retiring in January (I'm still pretty young thankfully) and will be in Thailand for a while. CM will be my first stop. If you have a second, any thoughts regarding a convenient and reasonably priced accommodation for a week? I can always google map it. Thanks for the quality and interesting channel. Peace!
How true about the mobility. a 2 hour trip in Bangkok can get you to a different section of the city, most of it standing in lines, underground or standing in the middle of a DRT train seeing nothing but the back of a person's head ... a 2 hour trip from Chiang Mai can get you a spectacular drive through beautiful mountain scenery on fun twisty roads passing through interesting little villages and very friendly people. During the Covid shutdown I lived in both Sankapaeng and Hong Dong (about 15 minutes outside of the old city) and while there were some places closed, for the most part the life went on a normal with a few restrictions (temperature scans, phone app to scan a QR code, social distancing, etc) Restaurants were open, local markets were opened ... I had to go back to Canada and due to flight cancellations had to stay there for 3 months (Oakville, just outside of Toronto) and I couldn't go anywhere except to the grocery store and stand in a line to get in) Since all my friends were in the age risk category we were unable to get together, and there were no bars open to gather at anyway. Chiang Mai was a much better place to wait out Covid.
Loved this, I'm considering moving to Chiang Mai. I've been on a holiday for a week but I think it's somewhere I could definitely live. Although I love the beach but really agree with you about taking it for granted. You might of made my mind up for me!
Practicalities go out the window for me when choosing somewhere to live. It's all about how I feel about a place and how that place makes me feel. That being said, Chiang Mai is special because it is one of the few places I know that has it all.
You should really visit Hat Yai one day. It's a city of similar size to Chiang Mai, but culturally very different, with a large Chinese and Muslim influence on its culture, food etc. There are very few farangs and the beach is quite close to city, only a 45 minute motorbike drive at the most.
Very nice video, thank you! I am surprised though that you did not mention the "burning season" as one of the main disadvantages of living in Chiang Mai!
Hey Brett. You’re absolutely right. I’ve been to Thailand couple times and I love Chiang Mai. I like to stay on the beaches when on holidays but if I had to pick a place to live it would be the northern part.
I was first in Thailand (Bangkok and Chaing Mai) at the end of 2007. I flew in with no pants or long-sleeved shirts packed. When I got to Chiang Mai, it was great in the day, but I FROZE at night. Yeah, I had to break down and buy some pants and a jacket. It's a great city. Motorbikes are a bit intimidating for me, but perhaps I can learn.
I was there about 9 years ago and shared your same feelings. A Very chill vibe and friendly people. I was there about a week ago and it felt like 50/50 foreigners and Thai people. It just Didn’t really feel like Thailand to me.
I totally agree w the way you think. It’s nice to be around nature and no beach but when your ready to go to the beach you look forward to it. You can only spend so Much time at the beach before it gets old. Love hearing the birds in the background in your video. It’s very soothing!! I also like when u said it has nightlife BUT another over abundance where it’s crazy!! I Like moderation and not overcrowded
Thank you so much for this video Brett, it was so informative and heart felt. I've started my Affiliated Marketing business and hope to get it up to speed before visiting later this year.
I lived in Bangkok 4-years. My second choice would have been Chiang Mai. I've seen the beaches and the hustle and bustle of the city. I do agree on what you said on the video. Plus, Chiang Mai has the best mountains and roads for motorcyckling.
I just got back from an amazing trip to Thailand for 16 days. Went to Ko Samui, Bangkok and Chiang Mai. I fell in love with Chiang Mai. I stayed in the Nimman area, which I really like. Did not spend much time in the old city. I’m a modern kind of guy come and I like modern amenities. Loved all the coffee shops and cafés. Beast burger was a favorite of mine.
When I lived in Chiang Mai and then spent 10 days in Krabi/Railay Beach, I honestly couldn't wait to get back to Chiang Mai. Poor water supply, too many hippies doing Yoga and smoking weed, full of westerners doing selfies and dirty water from all the boats polluting the shore..... naa, it wasn't what it was made out to be. Chiang Mai has so much variety, great coffee etc etc, its just a dream.
@@richardbrown9344 Well i actually live in Bangkok at the moment and i've been going to Koh Chang / Koh Kood, very close to BKK, Hua Hin is certainly another option
Another great vid Brett. To those who say it doesn't have a beach, it's surrounded by has several mountains. It's wonderful to get out into nature with the mountains.
Chiang Mai is THE BEST OF BOTH WORLD. The rich heritage culture together with modernization! Great wi-fi everywhere. And just a few blocks away from modern malls are the beautiful scenery of breathtaking mountains. Cost of living is do inexpensive. But…I choose Pattaya over Chiang Mai anytime. The seaside beach with all the fun living.
Very well put. I have been in Chiang Mai since April 2021 and am currently down in Koh Phangan which was to escape burning season but heading back to Chiang Mai despite the burning season in a couple of days time. Miss it too much. I think Thailand is a bit like the UK in some ways, the further North you go, the friendlier it gets.
Sorry Brett, I listened to this entire video and you never mentioned the burning season. For 5 months each year, the air in Chiang Mai is filled with thick acrid smoke. I do not smoke and I do not wish to live in a region that smokes. All of you folks who love Chiang Mai so much need to explain (in detail) what happens in Chaing Mai between January and May each year.
Interesting commentary - thanks Brett. I've been in Chiang Mai for the past 5 weeks and was in Phuket for 10 weeks before that. Looking ahead to potential retirement location I'm torn between the two but also plan to look at Hua Hin - my next stop. Chiang Mai (I'm in NE old city - Moonmuang Rd Soi 6) has a warm, friendly feeling and great sense of community and good karma with healthy food/activity options. It also has all the outdoor options you mention - great hiking/cycling opportunities. I do think about the beach and that is the one thing missing but then I'd do most of my swimming in pools anyway so ... Phuket gets a bad rap and you should visit. Yes it's definitely more expensive but offers everything anyone can want - best beaches (Bangtao is my favorite long beach and Freedom for more intimate feeling), restaurants/bars (rowdy Bangla Rd or quieter family-friendly in say, Choeng Thale), cycling/sports opportunities, malls, Phuket town, expat/local scenes etc. Hua Hin - hope to take second look in next days but I see it as a mix of CM, Phuket and Bangkok - covering all bases (and close to Bangkok) but not excelling in any. I'd love to have caught up for a coffee (yes, so many great coffee shops here) during my stay and now I'm about to book my departure (overnight train or fly) .. next time if you are ever available (I know you probably have lots going on). Additional complication: I'm also looking at Philippines - plan to make first visit there in late March.
Good luck with the food in The Philippines. My ex wife, a Filipina, had to cook two different meals every time we ate at home. The food is that bad. 555 Do visit and take care.
Ive set my eyes on retirement in Thailand and already secured a piece of land in Huahin under my wives name. I want a region that has both the mountains and the sea, while not being too far apart from bangkok. Huahin is constructing a freeway connecting bangkok that will reduce travelling time by half (4 to 2 hours). They also have tons of nice resorts; resulting in a some foreign tourism so food wise I will still be able to get some variety.
@@eamesho7723 All sounds good tho not sure about expected completion date for that fast freeway/train? I ended up missing Hua Hin and heading to Phangan for Full Moon instead - now back in Phuket as my friend was coming here.
You are the absolute best person that I’ve found who explains exactly what I need to know before moving to Chiang Mai! I plan on moving out next February if you want to get together when I move! I’d love to be friends!
Thanks for this video, Brett. I kinda liked that you "rambled on"! I spent only a couple of months in Chiang Mai and it is the place I will return to for as long a stay as I can manage once I'm able to get back to Thailand. It's a lovely area.
I can’t wait to go back !!! Hopefully the vibe there is still good and all the martial arts places and yoga and fitness places are open . Favourite place in the world.
I've been here in Chiang Mai for 4 days now, got another 2 days left. I'm watching this at my hotel room in Roseate, in Chiang Mai! As much as I love it here, can't see myself living here though, I'm from London, need to be in the big city.
I visited Chiang Mai as part of a volunteer trip and we stayed for a week... 3 nights were in an Elephant Sanctuary, one day I had a guide take me into the mountains to get a sak yant tattoo from a Buddhist Monk and the other days in the city. I enjoyed it and it really felt magical. I"m 54 and see myself retiring there as living in the States is unaffordable. How's the retired expat demographic? Singles for us older peeps? :-)
I first visited Chiangmai in September 2002. I remember feeling right at home. It is as you describe, the people are calm and relaxed. Stayed there for months. Bangkok makes me crazy and frustraded.
Hi Brett..been living in jomtien for 4 months but not going to settle here...chang mai really appeals to me...big concern is the burning season...how bad is it really and how long does it last...really good vlog btw...be lucky
Depends on your health I guess. Lots of people can put up with it. I did fine last year, but had to put an air purifier in the bedroom ... you'll have a slightly sore throat most of the time, and you should wear a mask (which is probably why wearing a mask for Covid in Chiang Mai was never much of an issue, everyone has long gotten used to it for burning season) but coming from Canada, the air quality certainly is noticeably poor here during burning season. The last few days have been hovering between 'moderate & poor' so for the most part a healthy person will not have too many issues, when it gets into the 'dangerous' range you will probably notice a mild sore throat and some mild congestion and runny nose for short periods (feels to me like a mild allergy reaction to some plant I just sniffed ... passes in an hour or so, and may happen a few times a day ... same for the wife.) I'm probably going to fight through it this year as I am not fully retired until April, so I sort of need to stay here where I have all my computers, monitors, Internet connections, etc, but next year I think I will take the wife and dogs and head to somewhere out of the haze and rent a house for 3 months ... I suspect that will be 10K baht or less per month ($300 USD) for a nice 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom (I own my own place in Chiang Mai, so I don't have to pay rent for that, so I can look at burning season as a chance to explore a new part of Thailand for 2 or 3 months.!)
Hi Phil. the burning season typically last about 3 months and most people do what Hung Dong Boy has mentioned below; they take the opportunity to explore some other parts of Thailand.
Hi Brett just watched your video on CHIANG MIA I travelled there about 10 years ago and fell in love with it And have been coming back ever since Have now been seeing a thai lady that works in a hotel And I plan to sell my house in Gt Yarmouth Norfolk (if you know it) And retire to CHIANG Mia and live with her and her two boys So just wanted to thank you for all your advice Charles Stride
Coming to chiang mai soon, i saw that the hard rock café is permanently closed ? I'm not much into jazz and stuff, Is there anything you can name that plays equally rock music 🎶?
Couldn't agree with you more Bret, I live in issan, Rio et province and its very similar to your situation. Very little foreigners around but enough to have weekly get togethers and discussion. Only downside is the heat. Well said mate.
Great advice Brett! Thanks for sharing your experiences. I haven't heard many people talk about traveling near Nong Khai or Udon Thani (near Vientiane). Is there a reason why? Or do you know any areas within Thailand that's recommended to avoid?
thanks, u educate me about the history of Chiang mai,I always visit there.I hate beaches,the rest of i am agree 99.9% with u.,I fly from Seattle to Taipei and then Chiang mai,avoid Bangkok ugly heat.
To me the walled city of Chiang Mai feels more like a big town than a city. It's pretty easy to walk everywhere in that district (although in some places the sidewalks are inconsistent). Good food everywhere. Supposedly 100 temples in the city...not sure about that but definitely a large number and quite interesting to visit whether you are Buddhist or not, just be respectful of their beliefs and customs. BTW, from US can get flights direct to Chiang Mai without stopping in BKK.
Hi Brett from Queensland. Thanks for your vlog. Interesting to learn why it is different from the rat race of the main touristy places. Didn't know it was different ethnically. I will be following you from now on. Cheers.
Hi Brett thinking of visiting Thailand, my first time to hopefully move over there eventually. Would Chiang Mai be the best place ? I have diabetes type 2 and use insulin. Plus do you require Thai driving license.
10:51 I’ve only spoken with one Taxi driver so it’s not necessarily a good idea to use one reference but he told me 70% of Chiang Mai’s economy is based on a tourism. I was also surprised to know the vast majority of his customers are in fact foreigners and not locals. I’ve just come back from Chiang Mai and compared to 2012 I would say the younger generation are no more friendlier in Chiang Mai than Bangkok. Maybe the older generation in there 40’s up were friendlier in the past, but definitely not the younger generation who are so glued to there phones they don’t interact as much. I miss the old Thailand but that doesn’t mean it’s not a great place to live or visit.
I've lived here for 20 years, enjoyed my time very much, but now the pollution is becoming unbearable, so it is with a heavy heart that our house is up for sale and we intend to go south nearer Pranburi or Aou Manang Good video buddy
Hi Brett, I've been subscribed and watched your videos for a couple of years now, and I love the relaxed-looking environment, being a sort of chilled guy myself. A few years ago, I rode a bicycle solo between Cheshire and Ao Nang, with a 4000 loop in Thailand, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam. Thailand was by far the wealthiest looking in the region, and I met a lot of would-be digital nomads trying their best to eke out a living there. I went through the Isaan region, which was incredible, but I never got around to visiting Chiang Mai in the northwest, but I did meet some guys working there but renewing their visas in Vientiane. They loved Chiang Mia and dreading the day they would have to return to the UK. I'm an author and love to write adventure books, and this year I set up my youtube channel to get others into writing books and not just creating lined journals and simple print-on-demand books. I believe that travelling and going on adventures, then writing about them, is a great way to earn a living for digital nomads. I could live in Chiang Mai quite comfortably on my "passive" income plus my work that needs a little maintenance from time to time. I have even created a video on the digital nomad subject. As I say, I could become a digital nomad quite quickly on the income I have made, but it won't be for a little while, as I have a new grandson and need to be around right now. If I end up passing through your part, I'll give you a bell. It's my feeling that if a person can hope to learn to earn money while in Chiang Mai, they may as well start while in their home country with no pressure to pay the bills, then move out to become a digital nomad once they are earning enough to rent a cheap pad and feed themselves, at least. Great channel. Steve
Most originally chiangmai people now move out of city. lot of bkk people move to here build business . Totally respect that what you reports about this
I have lived in Chiang Mai for 44 years, for a tourist there isn't much to do. it was originally strawberries grown as a substitute for opium by the King
What, no mention of rubbish burning season, when nearby farmers burn a lot of plant discards in advance of the new growing season and the smoke can be a problem? I know some years are worse than others. Udon Thani is the most farang-friendly place in Isaan...my only problem there is the summers can be hot & humid. Cool in winters, though.
Just saw it’s 3 months Jan - march. I’d take off down to Pattaya then, January weather in Pattaya can be pleasant. Head back up after march burning season done.
@@roygoad2870 Correct ... burning season just started maybe 2 weeks ago. Moderate level today, has varied over the last week between moderate & high. Took a trip up near Myanmar last weekend, the trip up it was difficult to see the mountains until about an hour outside of Chiang Mai, even though I was in them lol, the trip back was pretty near clear so had a great scenic drive for a least one day.
Some of the beaches I wouldn’t dare swim, they are so polluted. Last time I was at Hua Hin I walked on the beach and I could smell sewage. I’m Australian so can’t beat our beaches. If I lived over there Chiang Mai sounds perfect for me!
So true Brett I agree with you 100 💯 percent but because I live in london I am so use to the tube and love the BTS and if your in chaing Mia you can always visit Bangkok for the weekend or visit the beach your right. You end up looking forward to it more
Great video, Brett--I absolutely LOVED hearing about your love for my Second Home! One alternative to Chiang Mai MIGHT be Mae Hong Son--that's my Second Favorite City in the kingdom and it's also NOT Khao San Rd Hell like Pai! Thanks for another outstanding video; it DOES help with my homesickness for CM! :-)
Good video Brett, very descriptive indeed. My friend Danny lives there and told me a lot of the same points you’ve mentioned. Keep up the good content buddy 👌 Carcollectioncoventry
Pak Chang is sort of interesting. About 100 mi NE of Bangkok. Historically it has had many German expats. Now the local resorts and restaurants are trending to Italian styles. One thing for sure is that there is a resort boom going on there with real estate developments everywhere. Other than that I don't see the big appeal. Maybe fresh air. Lots of jungle covered dormant volcanoes. There is a lot of dust around though you don't notice it that much since the dust levels in most places is high and Pak Chang is just a little more so.
Hi Brett going for my retirement visa on Tuesday was wondering where to live i have toured all over South Thailand but my concern is what you said it is way too hot down here in Bangkok Going to Korat tomorrow i will head to chiang Mai soon GREAT VIDEO VERY TRUE
Wow, what an awesome compare and contrast to different areas, and really making CM look like the winner! I haven't been yet, but def know what its like to live by the beach and after awhile you take it for granted and don't even go much, or does the rest of the town either. Sounds like a good laid back vibe in CM. Are there English teaching jobs, or any ways to make any sort of income?
First of all, thank you for loving Thailand. And I am a Thai person who loves this country very much. because we have Thai language have delicious food There is a good and beautiful culture. You have to come and experience it for yourself to know that Thailand is amazing.
Thx I'm thinking about spending some time there when I retire
Agreed! I've been to nearly 100 countries and Thailand is my favourite. Lucky you to be born in this country!
Sounds very interesting..
Chiang Mai is so “doable.” Less culture shock in CM. Been “In-N-Out” of living in Chiang Mai nine times over the past ten years. Waiting for hurdles to ease.. it’s been twenty-five months. 🙏🏼
Great video Brett, glad to see Chiang Mai is still reliable, getting ready to return soon 🎉
There is a good reason why Chiang Mai has been called "The Rose Of The North" for decades by both Thai people and Westerners. I noticed this when I started to watch more historical Thai drama series. Whenever Chiang Mai was mentioned, it was spoken about as a 'special place' where you might take your partner for a romantic weekend away.
Great points...and definitely agree with a majority of them on the why and why nots. One of the best Chiang Mai descriptions I ever heard was, "Chiang Mai is a beach town without a beach."
Great vid Brett, balanced, informative and very unbiased delivery. You're a wise young man. Cheers.
I am moving abroad in 4 1/2 years, and I am debating between Thailand and the Philippines as a 1st run starting point for retirement. While I am sure my plans will remain fluid as I experience long-term life in the region. This video is exactly what I need for the kind of information I am looking for. Thank you!
Thailand is way better. More liberal in many ways and people friendly and don't steal. Food is really good here too! If you like the bar scene, ladies, ladyboys, whatever you like, you will find it here in Thailand. Moved here a year ago because I like LB's and I am so happy I did!
I enjoy your presenting style. Great video. You're a Brit who speaks real English that is understandable. Subscribed. Thanks brother.
It's a great place,has everything for me. Can't wait to come back soon. Best wishes Brett.
I love Chiang Mai for the people too. I totally get you. Thank you. Good job.
Thank you so much Brett. I am Thai I believe all Thai people love you. I still love and be proud of you . thank you very much
Great insight as into why you live in Chiang Mai Brett, cheers for the video. I'm going to Chiang Mai in May so I might see you around. I cant believe you have never been to Phuket but i can understand why, its not the quietest place. Stay safe mate
Seen about 30 provinces in Thailand phuket is the last place I would recommend .
@@robertspence4729 you cant just say that, tell me why and where would you recommend I go for a visit. I'm going to be in Thailand for 90 days to explore and see what's best. Cheers
Thanks for the information. I never gave serious thought to Chiang Mai as a place to live, but you have changed my mind. Look forward to visiting.
Hi Brett ," one man's meat is another man's poison". I wouldn't trade Bangkok for any other part of Thailand and I wouldn't trade Huai Khwang for another part of Banhkok. Another great video by the way. Looking forward to having a pint with you when you get down here to Huai Khwang.
agreed with the meat man poison thing. I stay in Huai Khwang area most often when I head down to bangkok and it has this chaotic charm about it.
I fell in love with Bangkok. I was there November 2019. It checks all the boxes for me.
Great info Brett, been once, now looking at a move there. This will hopefully help me convince the better half 🤣
Hey, Brett! I agree 100 percent with your reasons for living in Chiang Mai. When I first started coming to Thailand, CM was the first place I visited and still to this day is my favorite place in Thailand. Sure, I love the beaches in the south, but the hiking there is amazing and it's so easy to get around in the city. I'm retiring in January (I'm still pretty young thankfully) and will be in Thailand for a while. CM will be my first stop.
If you have a second, any thoughts regarding a convenient and reasonably priced accommodation for a week? I can always google map it. Thanks for the quality and interesting channel. Peace!
How true about the mobility.
a 2 hour trip in Bangkok can get you to a different section of the city, most of it standing in lines, underground or standing in the middle of a DRT train seeing nothing but the back of a person's head ... a 2 hour trip from Chiang Mai can get you a spectacular drive through beautiful mountain scenery on fun twisty roads passing through interesting little villages and very friendly people.
During the Covid shutdown I lived in both Sankapaeng and Hong Dong (about 15 minutes outside of the old city) and while there were some places closed, for the most part the life went on a normal with a few restrictions (temperature scans, phone app to scan a QR code, social distancing, etc) Restaurants were open, local markets were opened ... I had to go back to Canada and due to flight cancellations had to stay there for 3 months (Oakville, just outside of Toronto) and I couldn't go anywhere except to the grocery store and stand in a line to get in) Since all my friends were in the age risk category we were unable to get together, and there were no bars open to gather at anyway. Chiang Mai was a much better place to wait out Covid.
Loved this, I'm considering moving to Chiang Mai. I've been on a holiday for a week but I think it's somewhere I could definitely live. Although I love the beach but really agree with you about taking it for granted. You might of made my mind up for me!
I love it here also. Loved hearing your perspective of Chiang Mai
You are right about that beach thing. I lived 7 minutes walk away from one and now when I have over 30miles to drive I am there more often
Practicalities go out the window for me when choosing somewhere to live. It's all about how I feel about a place and how that place makes me feel. That being said, Chiang Mai is special because it is one of the few places I know that has it all.
You should really visit Hat Yai one day. It's a city of similar size to Chiang Mai, but culturally very different, with a large Chinese and Muslim influence on its culture, food etc. There are very few farangs and the beach is quite close to city, only a 45 minute motorbike drive at the most.
Great video Brett, always interesting..
Nice one, Brett. Enjoyed listening to you while tidying the house here :p Looking forward to coming back to CM later this year !
Very nice video, thank you! I am surprised though that you did not mention the "burning season" as one of the main disadvantages of living in Chiang Mai!
Hey Brett. You’re absolutely right. I’ve been to Thailand couple times and I love Chiang Mai. I like to stay on the beaches when on holidays but if I had to pick a place to live it would be the northern part.
I was first in Thailand (Bangkok and Chaing Mai) at the end of 2007. I flew in with no pants or long-sleeved shirts packed. When I got to Chiang Mai, it was great in the day, but I FROZE at night. Yeah, I had to break down and buy some pants and a jacket.
It's a great city. Motorbikes are a bit intimidating for me, but perhaps I can learn.
You're right, Chiang Mai is just more relaxed. It's why I stay here. Side note, your videos are part of what drew me here 3 years ago.
Great video Brett!
Great topic and video. Thank you.
I was there about 9 years ago and shared your same feelings. A Very chill vibe and friendly people. I was there about a week ago and it felt like 50/50 foreigners and Thai people. It just Didn’t really feel like Thailand to me.
Just got back to uk today from chiang mai its got so many night markets temples on every corner well worth going to also check out lampang
Thank You, I have been to chaing Mia 4 times .. This helps me decide where to retire in Thailand.
I totally agree w the way you think. It’s nice to be around nature and no beach but when your ready to go to the beach you look forward to it. You can only spend so
Much time at the beach before it gets old. Love hearing the birds in the background in your video. It’s very soothing!! I also like when u said it has nightlife BUT another over abundance where it’s crazy!! I
Like moderation and not overcrowded
Thank you so much for this video Brett, it was so informative and heart felt. I've started my Affiliated Marketing business and hope to get it up to speed before visiting later this year.
I lived in Bangkok 4-years. My second choice would have been Chiang Mai. I've seen the beaches and the hustle and bustle of the city. I do agree on what you said on the video. Plus, Chiang Mai has the best mountains and roads for motorcyckling.
I just got back from an amazing trip to Thailand for 16 days. Went to Ko Samui, Bangkok and Chiang Mai. I fell in love with Chiang Mai. I stayed in the Nimman area, which I really like. Did not spend much time in the old city. I’m a modern kind of guy come and I like modern amenities. Loved all the coffee shops and cafés. Beast burger was a favorite of mine.
When I lived in Chiang Mai and then spent 10 days in Krabi/Railay Beach, I honestly couldn't wait to get back to Chiang Mai. Poor water supply, too many hippies doing Yoga and smoking weed, full of westerners doing selfies and dirty water from all the boats polluting the shore..... naa, it wasn't what it was made out to be. Chiang Mai has so much variety, great coffee etc etc, its just a dream.
@@richardbrown9344 Well i actually live in Bangkok at the moment and i've been going to Koh Chang / Koh Kood, very close to BKK, Hua Hin is certainly another option
Great video. Thanks for sharing your veteran experience.
Another great vid Brett. To those who say it doesn't have a beach, it's surrounded by has several mountains. It's wonderful to get out into nature with the mountains.
I lived in both Chiangmai and Bangkok and I agree with you 100%. Chiangmai is my #1 choice.
Chiang Mai is THE BEST OF BOTH WORLD. The rich heritage culture together with modernization! Great wi-fi everywhere. And just a few blocks away from modern malls are the beautiful scenery of breathtaking mountains. Cost of living is do inexpensive.
But…I choose Pattaya over Chiang Mai anytime. The seaside beach with all the fun living.
Hi Brett, thanks for your videos, they are insightful, especially interested in Chiang Mai!
Very well put. I have been in Chiang Mai since April 2021 and am currently down in Koh Phangan which was to escape burning season but heading back to Chiang Mai despite the burning season in a couple of days time. Miss it too much.
I think Thailand is a bit like the UK in some ways, the further North you go, the friendlier it gets.
That's a good comparison!
@@brett_dev except til you hit the Geordie areas ?
This was a really great overview. Now I know why I’m so interested in going to Chaig Mai over other areas.
Sorry Brett, I listened to this entire video and you never mentioned the burning season. For 5 months each year, the air in Chiang Mai is filled with thick acrid smoke. I do not smoke and I do not wish to live in a region that smokes. All of you folks who love Chiang Mai so much need to explain (in detail) what happens in Chaing Mai between January and May each year.
Does this hell happen also in other places in Thailand like Hua Hin, Bangkok?
Nice one! Thanks for sharing your insight! 👍
Brett your videos inspired us to actually get out here! We just moved into our Nimman Apartment and are so stoked to have finally made it!
Interesting commentary - thanks Brett. I've been in Chiang Mai for the past 5 weeks and was in Phuket for 10 weeks before that. Looking ahead to potential retirement location I'm torn between the two but also plan to look at Hua Hin - my next stop. Chiang Mai (I'm in NE old city - Moonmuang Rd Soi 6) has a warm, friendly feeling and great sense of community and good karma with healthy food/activity options. It also has all the outdoor options you mention - great hiking/cycling opportunities. I do think about the beach and that is the one thing missing but then I'd do most of my swimming in pools anyway so ...
Phuket gets a bad rap and you should visit. Yes it's definitely more expensive but offers everything anyone can want - best beaches (Bangtao is my favorite long beach and Freedom for more intimate feeling), restaurants/bars (rowdy Bangla Rd or quieter family-friendly in say, Choeng Thale), cycling/sports opportunities, malls, Phuket town, expat/local scenes etc.
Hua Hin - hope to take second look in next days but I see it as a mix of CM, Phuket and Bangkok - covering all bases (and close to Bangkok) but not excelling in any.
I'd love to have caught up for a coffee (yes, so many great coffee shops here) during my stay and now I'm about to book my departure (overnight train or fly) .. next time if you are ever available (I know you probably have lots going on).
Additional complication: I'm also looking at Philippines - plan to make first visit there in late March.
Good luck with the food in The Philippines. My ex wife, a Filipina, had to cook two different meals every time we ate at home. The food is that bad. 555 Do visit and take care.
@@212Roger haha thanks. I’m right this minute savoring my last green smoothie bowl at KhunKae juice bar - love this place in CM.
Ive set my eyes on retirement in Thailand and already secured a piece of land in Huahin under my wives name. I want a region that has both the mountains and the sea, while not being too far apart from bangkok. Huahin is constructing a freeway connecting bangkok that will reduce travelling time by half (4 to 2 hours). They also have tons of nice resorts; resulting in a some foreign tourism so food wise I will still be able to get some variety.
@@eamesho7723 All sounds good tho not sure about expected completion date for that fast freeway/train? I ended up missing Hua Hin and heading to Phangan for Full Moon instead - now back in Phuket as my friend was coming here.
You are the absolute best person that I’ve found who explains exactly what I need to know before moving to Chiang Mai! I plan on moving out next February if you want to get together when I move! I’d love to be friends!
I’ve lived near the beach in Los Angeles for 28 years and I rarely go to the beach🤷🏻♂️…thus your point about not having a beach in Chiang Mai !!
Thanks for this video, Brett. I kinda liked that you "rambled on"! I spent only a couple of months in Chiang Mai and it is the place I will return to for as long a stay as I can manage once I'm able to get back to Thailand. It's a lovely area.
I can’t wait to go back !!! Hopefully the vibe there is still good and all the martial arts places and yoga and fitness places are open
. Favourite place in the world.
Spot on
I noticed the friendliness in Chiang Mai was on another level. Do you recommend the old city for monthly rentals?
Thanks for sharing buddy !
super helpful info bro...thank you
I've been here in Chiang Mai for 4 days now, got another 2 days left. I'm watching this at my hotel room in Roseate, in Chiang Mai! As much as I love it here, can't see myself living here though, I'm from London, need to be in the big city.
Awesome Vid Brett
Thailand is the paradise and the second home for all visitor !!!
First went to Chiang Mai in 2009 went back every year until covid hit. Can’t wait to get back to get ‘up the doi’ on the daily
I visited Chiang Mai as part of a volunteer trip and we stayed for a week... 3 nights were in an Elephant Sanctuary, one day I had a guide take me into the mountains to get a sak yant tattoo from a Buddhist Monk and the other days in the city. I enjoyed it and it really felt magical. I"m 54 and see myself retiring there as living in the States is unaffordable. How's the retired expat demographic? Singles for us older peeps? :-)
Great video!
Awesome video. Thank you.
Excellent talk.
I first visited Chiangmai in September 2002. I remember feeling right at home. It is as you describe, the people are calm and relaxed. Stayed there for months. Bangkok makes me crazy and frustraded.
Hi Brett..been living in jomtien for 4 months but not going to settle here...chang mai really appeals to me...big concern is the burning season...how bad is it really and how long does it last...really good vlog btw...be lucky
Hello Phil.
May I ask why you chose to not settle in Jomtien. I ask because I am thinking about settling in Jomtien. Thanks.
Depends on your health I guess. Lots of people can put up with it. I did fine last year, but had to put an air purifier in the bedroom ... you'll have a slightly sore throat most of the time, and you should wear a mask (which is probably why wearing a mask for Covid in Chiang Mai was never much of an issue, everyone has long gotten used to it for burning season) but coming from Canada, the air quality certainly is noticeably poor here during burning season. The last few days have been hovering between 'moderate & poor' so for the most part a healthy person will not have too many issues, when it gets into the 'dangerous' range you will probably notice a mild sore throat and some mild congestion and runny nose for short periods (feels to me like a mild allergy reaction to some plant I just sniffed ... passes in an hour or so, and may happen a few times a day ... same for the wife.)
I'm probably going to fight through it this year as I am not fully retired until April, so I sort of need to stay here where I have all my computers, monitors, Internet connections, etc, but next year I think I will take the wife and dogs and head to somewhere out of the haze and rent a house for 3 months ... I suspect that will be 10K baht or less per month ($300 USD) for a nice 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom (I own my own place in Chiang Mai, so I don't have to pay rent for that, so I can look at burning season as a chance to explore a new part of Thailand for 2 or 3 months.!)
Hi Phil. the burning season typically last about 3 months and most people do what Hung Dong Boy has mentioned below; they take the opportunity to explore some other parts of Thailand.
Loved Chiang Mai, did a year there in 2013. Sometimes I think about going back, but I'm enjoying being in USA/Mexico. Just easy place to live.
Where are you in Mexico? What is the dating scene there?
@@joenewontheblock2404 Mexico City. Dating scene is good depends what you want I have kids on asia and London so prefer jsut to causally date
Hi Brett just watched your video on CHIANG MIA I travelled there about 10 years ago and fell in love with it And have been coming back ever since Have now been seeing a thai lady that works in a hotel And I plan to sell my house in Gt Yarmouth Norfolk (if you know it) And retire to CHIANG Mia and live with her and her two boys So just wanted to thank you for all your advice Charles Stride
Coming to chiang mai soon, i saw that the hard rock café is permanently closed ? I'm not much into jazz and stuff, Is there anything you can name that plays equally rock music 🎶?
Couldn't agree with you more Bret, I live in issan, Rio et province and its very similar to your situation. Very little foreigners around but enough to have weekly get togethers and discussion. Only downside is the heat.
Well said mate.
Great advice Brett! Thanks for sharing your experiences. I haven't heard many people talk about traveling near Nong Khai or Udon Thani (near Vientiane). Is there a reason why? Or do you know any areas within Thailand that's recommended to avoid?
There are so many cities in Thailand worth visiting, you can find tours if you aren't sure about navigating it yourself.
Coffee? I grew up in Lares, Puerto Rico; a still running coffee plantation!?! What a tidbit! Merci!
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This vid makes me want to book a flight now to Chang Mai. Sounds like its everything I been looking for! in a Thai city :)
thanks, u educate me about the history of Chiang mai,I always visit there.I hate beaches,the rest of i am agree 99.9% with u.,I fly from Seattle to Taipei and then Chiang mai,avoid Bangkok ugly heat.
To me the walled city of Chiang Mai feels more like a big town than a city. It's pretty easy to walk everywhere in that district (although in some places the sidewalks are inconsistent). Good food everywhere. Supposedly 100 temples in the city...not sure about that but definitely a large number and quite interesting to visit whether you are Buddhist or not, just be respectful of their beliefs and customs. BTW, from US can get flights direct to Chiang Mai without stopping in BKK.
Hi Brett from Queensland. Thanks for your vlog.
Interesting to learn why it is different from the rat race of the main touristy places. Didn't know it was different ethnically. I will be following you from now on. Cheers.
Hi Brett thinking of visiting Thailand, my first time to hopefully move over there eventually. Would Chiang Mai be the best place ? I have diabetes type 2 and use insulin. Plus do you require Thai driving license.
10:51 I’ve only spoken with one Taxi driver so it’s not necessarily a good idea to use one reference but he told me 70% of Chiang Mai’s economy is based on a tourism. I was also surprised to know the vast majority of his customers are in fact foreigners and not locals. I’ve just come back from Chiang Mai and compared to 2012 I would say the younger generation are no more friendlier in Chiang Mai than Bangkok. Maybe the older generation in there 40’s up were friendlier in the past, but definitely not the younger generation who are so glued to there phones they don’t interact as much. I miss the old Thailand but that doesn’t mean it’s not a great place to live or visit.
I've lived here for 20 years, enjoyed my time very much, but now the pollution is becoming unbearable, so it is with a heavy heart that our house is up for sale and we intend to go south nearer Pranburi or Aou Manang
Good video buddy
You make a very valid point regarding the neighborhoods. I find myself not leaving the red light district 😢
A Video about the Area's that Expats should rent and what are the plus and minus would be great.
Hi Brett, I've been subscribed and watched your videos for a couple of years now, and I love the relaxed-looking environment, being a sort of chilled guy myself. A few years ago, I rode a bicycle solo between Cheshire and Ao Nang, with a 4000 loop in Thailand, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam. Thailand was by far the wealthiest looking in the region, and I met a lot of would-be digital nomads trying their best to eke out a living there.
I went through the Isaan region, which was incredible, but I never got around to visiting Chiang Mai in the northwest, but I did meet some guys working there but renewing their visas in Vientiane. They loved Chiang Mia and dreading the day they would have to return to the UK.
I'm an author and love to write adventure books, and this year I set up my youtube channel to get others into writing books and not just creating lined journals and simple print-on-demand books. I believe that travelling and going on adventures, then writing about them, is a great way to earn a living for digital nomads. I could live in Chiang Mai quite comfortably on my "passive" income plus my work that needs a little maintenance from time to time. I have even created a video on the digital nomad subject. As I say, I could become a digital nomad quite quickly on the income I have made, but it won't be for a little while, as I have a new grandson and need to be around right now. If I end up passing through your part, I'll give you a bell.
It's my feeling that if a person can hope to learn to earn money while in Chiang Mai, they may as well start while in their home country with no pressure to pay the bills, then move out to become a digital nomad once they are earning enough to rent a cheap pad and feed themselves, at least. Great channel. Steve
best way to go about things, preserve those dopamine levels so you never get bored
Most originally chiangmai people now move out of city. lot of bkk people move to here build business . Totally respect that what you reports about this
Great points, can't wait to visit CM next winter
I have lived in Chiang Mai for 44 years, for a tourist there isn't much to do. it was originally strawberries grown as a substitute for opium by the King
Hiking, great food, great coffee, naturally grown ganja and great people. You sure there is nothing for tourists?
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What, no mention of rubbish burning season, when nearby farmers burn a lot of plant discards in advance of the new growing season and the smoke can be a problem? I know some years are worse than others. Udon Thani is the most farang-friendly place in Isaan...my only problem there is the summers can be hot & humid. Cool in winters, though.
Smokey season a dealbreaker for me.
Just saw it’s 3 months Jan - march. I’d take off down to Pattaya then, January weather in Pattaya can be pleasant. Head back up after march burning season done.
@@roygoad2870 Correct ... burning season just started maybe 2 weeks ago. Moderate level today, has varied over the last week between moderate & high. Took a trip up near Myanmar last weekend, the trip up it was difficult to see the mountains until about an hour outside of Chiang Mai, even though I was in them lol, the trip back was pretty near clear so had a great scenic drive for a least one day.
Some of the beaches I wouldn’t dare swim, they are so polluted. Last time I was at Hua Hin I walked on the beach and I could smell sewage. I’m Australian so can’t beat our beaches. If I lived over there Chiang Mai sounds perfect for me!
So true Brett I agree with you 100 💯 percent but because I live in london I am so use to the tube and love the BTS and if your in chaing Mia you can always visit Bangkok for the weekend or visit the beach your right. You end up looking forward to it more
I've never ventured north to Chiang Mai. I love Thai beaches too much. One day!
Great video, Brett--I absolutely LOVED hearing about your love for my Second Home! One alternative to Chiang Mai MIGHT be Mae Hong Son--that's my Second Favorite City in the kingdom and it's also NOT Khao San Rd Hell like Pai! Thanks for another outstanding video; it DOES help with my homesickness for CM! :-)
Selling my house and giving this place a shot end of year
Good video Brett, very descriptive indeed. My friend Danny lives there and told me a lot of the same points you’ve mentioned. Keep up the good content buddy 👌 Carcollectioncoventry
So right about the beach. I live by the beach here in ca and hardly go. 😂
Pak Chang is sort of interesting. About 100 mi NE of Bangkok. Historically it has had many German expats. Now the local resorts and restaurants are trending to Italian styles. One thing for sure is that there is a resort boom going on there with real estate developments everywhere. Other than that I don't see the big appeal. Maybe fresh air. Lots of jungle covered dormant volcanoes. There is a lot of dust around though you don't notice it that much since the dust levels in most places is high and Pak Chang is just a little more so.
Hi Brett going for my retirement visa on Tuesday was wondering where to live i have toured all over South Thailand but my concern is what you said it is way too hot down here in Bangkok
Going to Korat tomorrow i will head to chiang Mai soon GREAT VIDEO VERY TRUE
Landed here today with my girlfriend. Loving Chiang Mai so far. Completely different from the south.
Wow, what an awesome compare and contrast to different areas, and really making CM look like the winner! I haven't been yet, but def know what its like to live by the beach and after awhile you take it for granted and don't even go much, or does the rest of the town either. Sounds like a good laid back vibe in CM. Are there English teaching jobs, or any ways to make any sort of income?