I never want rocky to die but it had to come to an end sadly and I respect the video giving the reason why, but I just think it’s sad that Rocky’s story has come to an end but it kinda had to end at one point tho. Rocky’s story was really exiting to watch and I think it had to be one of the best 80s movie to be made. I might just take a walk down memory lane and be happy about what happened!
When I was a child growing up my uncle would talk to me about boxing and mention the greatest boxers like Muhammad Ali, Joe Fraizer, Evander Holyfield ,Rocky Marciano, Mike Tyson e.t.c. , but he also got me into the Rocky films. I will be forever grateful to him for that, because even to this day they still inspire and motivate me to keep going in life and never give up no matter what life throws at me They help inspire and motivate me to also stay on my purpose and keep grinding , always show gratitude and be grateful for what I have in life , what I receive in the future, the person I have become today and the person I am still working hard to become. The character Rocky, Adrian will always have a big , massive , huge place in my heart ❤, especially Rocky though and even though I watched creed 1 and 2 there is no way that will ever beat or be above the Rocky series, especially Rocky 1 and most of all Rocky 2 and 3. When Rocky told creed in creed 1 that he has cancer i felt like crying 😢😪😭 , just as much as when Rocky lost Mickey in Rocky 3. I got into the creed boxing movies , but it will never be better than Rocky series , especially Rocky 1 , 2 and 3 Rocky Forever❤
I think that rocky should appear mabe as a smaller role in one more film, or at least not at main character levels. Mabe, similarly to rocky 3, he dies at the midpoint and gives adonis motivation to fight. Mabe this could also lead to robert (rocky’s son) to become a bigger character in the franchise. I just feel that rocky is just too big of a character to have an off screen death.
This is a clever way to bring back Rocky usefully! Personally, I think it’s kind of poetic that Rocky dies a quiet, offscreen death. But if they ever bring back Rocky, this is the way to do it.
Rocky lives on as a concept, idea, and lifestyle. So Rocky can die, as long as Adonis embodies what Balboa represented (similar to how Mickey died, and Balboa embodied him). It’s quite a beautiful ending, in my opinion.
@@Randompersononyoutube9 true, but is there really a point in knowing who would win? It feels a little shallow to me, but it's not that big of a deal I guess.
While I agree Creed 2 should be where Rocky leaves off, my issue is that Sylvester Stallone wants back in on his franchise and to be involved as a character I think he should be allowed to do that with a similarly prominent role as the first two films. Otherwise yeah, I agree he should stay done in Canada with his kid for the rest of the series
Personally, I feel like Creed 2 would become a weaker movie if Rocky comes back, especially if he is really prominent. It would feel like Creed isn’t growing as a person and Rocky is around as fan service. However, I have faith in the Creed team, and I’m sure they could come up with a clever way to properly bring Rocky back (if they want to). It will be a very hard to do, but I have confidence in Micheal B. Jordan as a storyteller.
@@wackofeather To be fair Adonis Creed's story is going slower than Rocky's carrier did and the end of Creed III implies Creeds retirement. buuuut based on Rocky III if Sly got talked into doing it they could have a similar situation in Creed IV to Rocky III in which Rocky is called out at his retirement speech and Micky helps him one last time against Clubber Lang, despite not winning the fight when he passed away. Only this time Rocky passes away after helping Adonis with one last fight; they could even have his son as a supporter on Creeds team like in Rocky VI (Rocky Balboa) and maybe his illness comes back and mid fight Robby helps Rocky into the locker room, Robby and Adonis share a moment as Rocky passes and has to take over as a coach from what he learned from his dad's many years of fighting and give more on his feelings about his father and mothers passing. i think it could make a very good full circle while also changing the formula enough to show Adonis grow into a different man from Rocky while also respecting his teaching and eventually seeing Robby like a brother with the same father. hell they could even tie it into Rocky V but having Adonis ask Rob why he never became a boxer like his dad and how he feels about him being Rocky's student. Robby could tell him about Tommy Gun and how he see Creed as different because he saw Apollo as an uncle so to him it was like seeing his father in him. it could get deep as fuck. Edit cus i'm cracked out on this theory now: it would also be a good way to continue and finish Robby Balboa's story since Rocky only ever wanted him to become his own man and to use his brain over his body. in a way going into boxing after Rocky's passing could be a way for him to honor his fathers life style and in a way make it up to himself for the way he treated Rocky in the past as a child and a young adult while also doing things his own way. but that is very wishful thinking.
The thing is, Rocky already taught Adonis his core theme, which is to push past the glamor of boxing, and fight for yourself rather than others. Plus, the way Creed 2 ends would make a return for Rocky feel pretty awkward, since he should be spending the rest of his life with his grandson as was implied in the movie. If Rocky has to come back, a good way to do it would be where Adonis could want advice from Rocky, only to find Rocky has died. Now, Adonis could grapple with the grief and eventually cope with it by perhaps embodying Rocky in an upcoming fight.
You have to except one simple fact creed will never be anything even remotely close to what Rocky was. Rocky was a phenomenon.. everyone saw a rock. Everyone was talking about Rocky. Everyone wanted Rocky shirts, cops and anything else. In 10 years credo be forgotten. It’s practically forgotten now. Yeah you can get all butt hurt about it. It’s just that simple. If Stallone did not costar in the first two, they wouldn’t be a third one now. What I heard Stallone wasn’t in this one. I didn’t bother to watch it cause I just didn’t give a damn about it. If I bugged you go cry about it.
I never said Rocky was overrated or bad. In fact, if you understood what I said in the video, you would realize I am saying the opposite. Rocky pioneered a whole genre of movies. It was the first of its kind on top of just being a great set of movies, so of course it was such a smash hit. I love Rocky as a character, and that’s why I realize he can’t be around anymore (barring a few exceptions that some smart commenters brought up). Rocky has been a near-perfect franchise, like a squeaky clean golden temple. You wouldn’t want to ruin the temple by selling t-shirts and merch out front, would you? Similarly, I wouldn’t want Rocky as a character and a journey to be tainted for a couple of cheap cameos, which is (again barring a few exceptions) all that can really happen at this point.
While Rocky was avenging Apollo in Rocky 4, I feel like he was also doing it to prove what true strength is, and that Apollo died because he was too caught up in the petty stuff. This is because Rocky used to box for fame in Rocky 3, but learned his lesson at the end of that movie.
@@wackofeather I see where you’re coming from I do think Apollo also died because he was focused on the attention and the fame he was getting and he let that get to his head as Apollo did that taunt before the match
I agree. Honestly he’s been fighting for most of his life. In the newer Rocky (2016 or 2017) he said something about his demons being gone after the fight with Mason Dixon. But it would be good to see him again.
Well, Rocky’s son isn’t a boxer, and has his own life, and it would be weird to have a sense of animosity between Rocky’s son and Rocky’s disciple (they tried that in Rocky 5). It wouldn’t really make much sense for them to fight.
I feel like Drago became a pretty fleshed out character in Creed 2, and that his story ended satisfyingly in that movie. What do you think a Drago movie could add to his character?
@@samtheman4931 That's true, but Drago also became a pretty misguided person as he rose to boxing fame (cheating with steroids, working for the Russian Government), so the movie would have to end with Drago being kind of a terrible person. What is a way the movie could get around this problem?
@@wackofeather maybe show how he was manipulated by the Russian government to do all of his actions and just wanted fame and glory. Idk every person can be redeemed
@@samtheman4931 that would be a nice conflict but it can’t really resolve by the end of the movie, right? I guess the movie could be a tragedy, but that would be tough to pull off. It’s possible though.
Rocky should continue since his trainer Micky Goldmill looked older to begin with then how Stallone looks now. Rocky can continue as a trainer which he did in Rocky 5 and then in Creed and the sequel to Creed.
Rocky may look physically younger, but his story arc is completed. It would kind of desecrate how awesome Rocky is if they just made him stick around for the sake of it, right?
Well the whole point of Rocky 5 and 6 was that Rocky’s son is his own man, detached from boxing. So honestly it would feel kind of cheap if Rocky’s son suddenly becomes a boxer.
It symbolically does, and psychologically does to Rocky as a character. Plot drives character arcs, so even if Drago would have killed Apollo anyway, it’s the action that Rocky hesitated to throw the towel that matters to Rocky and the story.
Well there were rumors that he was going to come back and Creed for but now they're saying no but I would like to see Rocky come back just one more time to Tran Adonis because in the first Creed a lot of people told me that Rocky became Mickey in Creed so Mickey died in Rocky 3 now in Creed 3 Marianne died so if Rocky's completely gone from the franchise I guess that means Duke little Duke will be adonis's training from now on or maybe it's time to pass the torch we'll find out when Creed 4 comes out
@@JordanWilliams_Link7702 Yes but if fan service comes in the way of a story, it should be dropped. There are plenty of movies where the fan service spoiled everything (Uncharted, countless Marvel movies, Death Note S2, etc.). I wouldn’t mind having another Rocky movie, but I’m worried it could spoil the poetry of Rocky in Creed 2.
@@JordanWilliams_Link7702 You can look on my Little Mermaid video for Uncharted, but for Death Note, the story clearly ended in S1. However, because some execs up above (this is said by the people that worked on the show) wanted a second season, they filled up the time by showing “familiar faces” and “calling back to the first season” with similar, but more boring, plot points (my observation). Essentially, fan service only really works when it supports the story (see the Spider-Man Spider-verse movies), not when it is there for the sake of it.
lets be honest...Creed III didn't sit well with certain scenes with Rocky not there & hurt it from being one of the better ones in the franchise. It sits right in front of Rocky 5.
@@wackofeather Felix's fight against Dame, he would have shown up to support Adonis in that moment. Just out of respect for Creed & seeing Adonis/Felix's relationship as being somewhat similar to Adonis/Rocky's. Even tho Felix's character isn't that deep, you don't know that at that point in the movie. So again, felt empty.
@@wackofeather and he DAMN well would have been there in support of Adonis when he came out of retirement to fight Dame. THE EXACT same way that Rocky came out of retirement to fight Ivan Drago, to avenge him for killing Apollo Creed. It can't be denied that all of these scenes would have made more sense & made the movie better if Rocky was at the least, seen, in these 3 scenes.
@@cartercassidy6695 I actually really like your points, especially that last one, so I’m gonna pin this comment. I feel if they hadn’t set Rocky up for retirement so much in Creed 2, these could be really valid story beats.
See Rocky 1,2,3,4 are iconic films million of people want to go out and exercise It dealt with real life issues, mental toughness, emotional speeches and so on Creed 1 was ok film , But Creed 2 and 3 clearly see that Hollywood was trying to emulate Rocky franchise Fails miserably, as it hasn't got anything close to Rocky films There is only one Rocky Rocky Rocky Rocky Rocky I didn't hear any bell is son of a b****
Well the time jump from the Rocky movies to the Creed movies helps separate Rocky’s world and Adonis’s world. Also, that wide shot I talked about in the video also tells the audience that Rocky isn’t (and doesn’t want to be) part of the boxing world anymore, due to the distance between Rocky and the ring full of reporters.
@@wackofeather I got an idea maybe you can do a marvel maybe you can talk about Chris Hemsworth Chris Hemsworth getting something and Chris Hemsworth so popular and specially when comes to the mcu I was just giving you an idea you don't you do that I'm just giving you an idea never we can we can thank
@@jeffreymitchell3220 Who said that he lives forever? Rocky as a concept, a lifestyle lives on through Adonis, but Rocky succumbs to old age like the rest of us. It’s kind of poetic.
@@JordanWilliams_Link7702 I am a fan. I spent weeks writing a solid script, voiceover, animation, and editing. I was so touched by Rocky as a franchise that a part of my life has been dedicated to making this video.
@@JordanWilliams_Link7702 Yes, because it would ultimately not work out well. I want future Creed movies to embody what Rocky believed in, but that doesn’t mean Rocky has to be there. See my pinned comment for actual legitimate arguments for how Rocky should have come back for Creed 3.
We aren’t “murdering” off Rocky because, as I said in my video, Creed 2 clearly sets up his retirement and death. It’s pretty poetic anyways that Rocky dies after Adonis starts to embody what Balboa stands for. Now, the death doesn’t HAVE to be offscreen (though it might be better that way). Adonis may want to come to Rocky for help/advice in Creed 4, and he comes to find out that his mentor has died; this would be some pretty good inner conflict.
Honestly it seems that was the implication, but Rocky was initially going to be in Creed 3, and they want to bring him back for Creed 4, so he technically isn’t dead, though it’s honestly for the better if he is, or at least stays off-screen.
@Boximoe Cinematics Honestly it might be cooler if the dies somewhere in the beginning/middle. Maybe Adonis wants advice from Rocky and finds that he died, and now he has to push through a big fight on his own.
I never said that the Rocky movies suck and that the Creed movies are better. My point was that Rocky has such a perfect character arc that it would be a shame if future Creed movies ruined it by shoehorning Rocky just for fan service.
I mean if you look at the other comments, people have found meaningful ways that the plot can move forward in future movies, perhaps with a Rocky death or something. The franchise could absolutely end now though.
I never want rocky to die but it had to come to an end sadly and I respect the video giving the reason why, but I just think it’s sad that Rocky’s story has come to an end but it kinda had to end at one point tho. Rocky’s story was really exiting to watch and I think it had to be one of the best 80s movie to be made. I might just take a walk down memory lane and be happy about what happened!
When I was a child growing up my uncle would talk to me about boxing and mention the greatest boxers like Muhammad Ali, Joe Fraizer, Evander Holyfield ,Rocky Marciano, Mike Tyson e.t.c. , but he also got me into the Rocky films.
I will be forever grateful to him for that, because even to this day they still inspire and motivate me to keep going in life and never give up no matter what life throws at me
They help inspire and motivate me to also stay on my purpose and keep grinding , always show gratitude and be grateful for what I have in life , what I receive in the future, the person I have become today and the person I am still working hard to become.
The character Rocky, Adrian will always have a big , massive , huge place in my heart ❤, especially Rocky though and even though I watched creed 1 and 2 there is no way that will ever beat or be above the Rocky series, especially Rocky 1 and most of all Rocky 2 and 3.
When Rocky told creed in creed 1 that he has cancer i felt like crying 😢😪😭 , just as much as when Rocky lost Mickey in Rocky 3.
I got into the creed boxing movies , but it will never be better than Rocky series , especially Rocky 1 , 2 and 3
Rocky Forever❤
Rocky has evolved into Mickey. There isn't anymore that he can teach Adonis.
I think that rocky should appear mabe as a smaller role in one more film, or at least not at main character levels. Mabe, similarly to rocky 3, he dies at the midpoint and gives adonis motivation to fight. Mabe this could also lead to robert (rocky’s son) to become a bigger character in the franchise. I just feel that rocky is just too big of a character to have an off screen death.
This is a clever way to bring back Rocky usefully! Personally, I think it’s kind of poetic that Rocky dies a quiet, offscreen death. But if they ever bring back Rocky, this is the way to do it.
i think he need's his Micky moment.
Rocky Forever
Rocky lives on as a concept, idea, and lifestyle. So Rocky can die, as long as Adonis embodies what Balboa represented (similar to how Mickey died, and Balboa embodied him). It’s quite a beautiful ending, in my opinion.
Rocky needs to fight Creed. 😆
Omg don’t get me started on those “who will win, Rocky or Creed?” videos that keep popping up in my recommended lmao.
@@wackofeather would be a close match cuz both of them have that dawg in them
@@Randompersononyoutube9 true, but is there really a point in knowing who would win? It feels a little shallow to me, but it's not that big of a deal I guess.
I guess you’re kidding
Rocky will lose, he is way out of his prime
Rocky will never die
This video was a great breakdown, a great way to explain the story arc of rocky at the end of creed 2
Thank you!
@@wackofeather ❤
While I agree Creed 2 should be where Rocky leaves off, my issue is that Sylvester Stallone wants back in on his franchise and to be involved as a character
I think he should be allowed to do that with a similarly prominent role as the first two films. Otherwise yeah, I agree he should stay done in Canada with his kid for the rest of the series
Personally, I feel like Creed 2 would become a weaker movie if Rocky comes back, especially if he is really prominent. It would feel like Creed isn’t growing as a person and Rocky is around as fan service. However, I have faith in the Creed team, and I’m sure they could come up with a clever way to properly bring Rocky back (if they want to). It will be a very hard to do, but I have confidence in Micheal B. Jordan as a storyteller.
He can't want it that much otherwise he'd have been in Creed 3
@@micahbell5572 Yes and personally I think that’s the best call.
@@wackofeather To be fair Adonis Creed's story is going slower than Rocky's carrier did and the end of Creed III implies Creeds retirement. buuuut based on Rocky III if Sly got talked into doing it they could have a similar situation in Creed IV to Rocky III in which Rocky is called out at his retirement speech and Micky helps him one last time against Clubber Lang, despite not winning the fight when he passed away.
Only this time Rocky passes away after helping Adonis with one last fight; they could even have his son as a supporter on Creeds team like in Rocky VI (Rocky Balboa) and maybe his illness comes back and mid fight Robby helps Rocky into the locker room, Robby and Adonis share a moment as Rocky passes and has to take over as a coach from what he learned from his dad's many years of fighting and give more on his feelings about his father and mothers passing.
i think it could make a very good full circle while also changing the formula enough to show Adonis grow into a different man from Rocky while also respecting his teaching and eventually seeing Robby like a brother with the same father.
hell they could even tie it into Rocky V but having Adonis ask Rob why he never became a boxer like his dad and how he feels about him being Rocky's student. Robby could tell him about Tommy Gun and how he see Creed as different because he saw Apollo as an uncle so to him it was like seeing his father in him. it could get deep as fuck.
Edit cus i'm cracked out on this theory now: it would also be a good way to continue and finish Robby Balboa's story since Rocky only ever wanted him to become his own man and to use his brain over his body. in a way going into boxing after Rocky's passing could be a way for him to honor his fathers life style and in a way make it up to himself for the way he treated Rocky in the past as a child and a young adult while also doing things his own way.
but that is very wishful thinking.
He could always come back as a mentor
The thing is, Rocky already taught Adonis his core theme, which is to push past the glamor of boxing, and fight for yourself rather than others. Plus, the way Creed 2 ends would make a return for Rocky feel pretty awkward, since he should be spending the rest of his life with his grandson as was implied in the movie. If Rocky has to come back, a good way to do it would be where Adonis could want advice from Rocky, only to find Rocky has died. Now, Adonis could grapple with the grief and eventually cope with it by perhaps embodying Rocky in an upcoming fight.
#Facts👌🏾💯💯💯
You have to except one simple fact creed will never be anything even remotely close to what Rocky was. Rocky was a phenomenon.. everyone saw a rock. Everyone was talking about Rocky. Everyone wanted Rocky shirts, cops and anything else. In 10 years credo be forgotten. It’s practically forgotten now. Yeah you can get all butt hurt about it. It’s just that simple. If Stallone did not costar in the first two, they wouldn’t be a third one now. What I heard Stallone wasn’t in this one. I didn’t bother to watch it cause I just didn’t give a damn about it. If I bugged you go cry about it.
I never said Rocky was overrated or bad. In fact, if you understood what I said in the video, you would realize I am saying the opposite. Rocky pioneered a whole genre of movies. It was the first of its kind on top of just being a great set of movies, so of course it was such a smash hit. I love Rocky as a character, and that’s why I realize he can’t be around anymore (barring a few exceptions that some smart commenters brought up). Rocky has been a near-perfect franchise, like a squeaky clean golden temple. You wouldn’t want to ruin the temple by selling t-shirts and merch out front, would you? Similarly, I wouldn’t want Rocky as a character and a journey to be tainted for a couple of cheap cameos, which is (again barring a few exceptions) all that can really happen at this point.
Rip Apollo Tony and the others who deied in the cast
Rocky is him don’t try to change tradition with what society wants
rocky 3 he was doing for fame but rocky VI he did it for revenge
While Rocky was avenging Apollo in Rocky 4, I feel like he was also doing it to prove what true strength is, and that Apollo died because he was too caught up in the petty stuff. This is because Rocky used to box for fame in Rocky 3, but learned his lesson at the end of that movie.
@@wackofeather I see where you’re coming from I do think Apollo also died because he was focused on the attention and the fame he was getting and he let that get to his head as Apollo did that taunt before the match
Great Video
keep making these videos dude this was really good
I agree. Honestly he’s been fighting for most of his life. In the newer Rocky (2016 or 2017) he said something about his demons being gone after the fight with Mason Dixon. But it would be good to see him again.
2017? Rocky 6 is 2007 lmao
You know what I meant sorry I’m not a date freak
@@Carlo035Lax i didnt mean to sound cocky my bad
now, we need boxing match between Rocky's son and Creed's son
Well, Rocky’s son isn’t a boxer, and has his own life, and it would be weird to have a sense of animosity between Rocky’s son and Rocky’s disciple (they tried that in Rocky 5). It wouldn’t really make much sense for them to fight.
0:32 Ivan not Viktor lol
Lol my bad, thanks for pointing it out.
They need to make a drago movie
I feel like Drago became a pretty fleshed out character in Creed 2, and that his story ended satisfyingly in that movie. What do you think a Drago movie could add to his character?
@@wackofeather honestly it wild be so cool to have an Ivan drago pre qual. On how he rose to a humble man to world champ in such a young agw
@@samtheman4931 That's true, but Drago also became a pretty misguided person as he rose to boxing fame (cheating with steroids, working for the Russian Government), so the movie would have to end with Drago being kind of a terrible person. What is a way the movie could get around this problem?
@@wackofeather maybe show how he was manipulated by the Russian government to do all of his actions and just wanted fame and glory. Idk every person can be redeemed
@@samtheman4931 that would be a nice conflict but it can’t really resolve by the end of the movie, right? I guess the movie could be a tragedy, but that would be tough to pull off. It’s possible though.
Stallone did say he is open to doing creed 4 with MBJ but without the winklers
I’m late but finally I’m hearing someone saying the same thing I thought.
ivan drago was a piece of crap in rocky 4 but is a good sincere father to his son viktor
Yea I think by the end of Creed 2, Ivan isn’t such a terrible person anymore.
Well done video
So strong....
Rocky should continue since his trainer Micky Goldmill looked older to begin with then how Stallone looks now. Rocky can continue as a trainer which he did in Rocky 5 and then in Creed and the sequel to Creed.
Rocky may look physically younger, but his story arc is completed. It would kind of desecrate how awesome Rocky is if they just made him stick around for the sake of it, right?
Yeah, but it doesn't make sense for Rocky not to be at Mary Anne's funeral. Him not showing up is disrespectful.
I’m crying 😭🫡
great vid i love the rocky series thanks very good breakdown
I think rocky grandson is gonna get a trilogy
Well the whole point of Rocky 5 and 6 was that Rocky’s son is his own man, detached from boxing. So honestly it would feel kind of cheap if Rocky’s son suddenly becomes a boxer.
If he dies, he dies.
Is there gonna be creed 4?
This shit deserves a subscribe dude! keep on going bro
Nice video I just subscribed
Thanks and welcome!
0:34 The referee physically tried to stop the fight and was shoved away so do you think Rocky throwing a towel would have made a difference?
It symbolically does, and psychologically does to Rocky as a character. Plot drives character arcs, so even if Drago would have killed Apollo anyway, it’s the action that Rocky hesitated to throw the towel that matters to Rocky and the story.
It's a canon event
Well there were rumors that he was going to come back and Creed for but now they're saying no but I would like to see Rocky come back just one more time to Tran Adonis because in the first Creed a lot of people told me that Rocky became Mickey in Creed so Mickey died in Rocky 3 now in Creed 3 Marianne died so if Rocky's completely gone from the franchise I guess that means Duke little Duke will be adonis's training from now on or maybe it's time to pass the torch we'll find out when Creed 4 comes out
Sure it would, time for rocky 7 now
What could happen in another Rocky movie that would further develop his character?
@@wackofeather not everything has to be about character development, real fans just wanna see him again
@@JordanWilliams_Link7702 Yes but if fan service comes in the way of a story, it should be dropped. There are plenty of movies where the fan service spoiled everything (Uncharted, countless Marvel movies, Death Note S2, etc.). I wouldn’t mind having another Rocky movie, but I’m worried it could spoil the poetry of Rocky in Creed 2.
@Wackofeather how did death note and uncharted get spoiled
@@JordanWilliams_Link7702 You can look on my Little Mermaid video for Uncharted, but for Death Note, the story clearly ended in S1. However, because some execs up above (this is said by the people that worked on the show) wanted a second season, they filled up the time by showing “familiar faces” and “calling back to the first season” with similar, but more boring, plot points (my observation). Essentially, fan service only really works when it supports the story (see the Spider-Man Spider-verse movies), not when it is there for the sake of it.
You accidentally called ivan “viktor drago” 0:32
Dude, sorry for correcting not trying to be mean but it’s Ivan not Viktor
lets be honest...Creed III didn't sit well with certain scenes with Rocky not there & hurt it from being one of the better ones in the franchise. It sits right in front of Rocky 5.
What scenes are we talking about specifically?
@@wackofeather Mary-Anne's funeral...for starters...Rocky would have 1000% been there for that. The idea that he wasn't just doesn't make sense.
@@wackofeather Felix's fight against Dame, he would have shown up to support Adonis in that moment. Just out of respect for Creed & seeing Adonis/Felix's relationship as being somewhat similar to Adonis/Rocky's. Even tho Felix's character isn't that deep, you don't know that at that point in the movie. So again, felt empty.
@@wackofeather and he DAMN well would have been there in support of Adonis when he came out of retirement to fight Dame. THE EXACT same way that Rocky came out of retirement to fight Ivan Drago, to avenge him for killing Apollo Creed. It can't be denied that all of these scenes would have made more sense & made the movie better if Rocky was at the least, seen, in these 3 scenes.
@@cartercassidy6695 I actually really like your points, especially that last one, so I’m gonna pin this comment. I feel if they hadn’t set Rocky up for retirement so much in Creed 2, these could be really valid story beats.
well said
Rocky Balboa is Rambo Stallone is a soldier I,am prove of it
You have 69 subs
Well done, sir
Apollo died fighting "Ivan Drago"
Yes that’s my bad, I mix up the names.
L take
Could you elaborate?
you mad??
u said victor drago in 0:33
Rocky is the only reason i watch creed so if rocky dies so does the trilogy i don't give a shit about Michael b Jordan only rocky
0:32 u said Victor Drago but its Ivan Drago who killed Apollo Creed
Yes I made a mistake lol. If UA-cam still had annotations I would correct it.
Dude said victor and not ivan
Rocky Will newer die!!disos Creed story
W take man i love this video
See Rocky 1,2,3,4 are iconic films
million of people want to go out and exercise
It dealt with real life issues, mental toughness, emotional speeches and so on
Creed 1 was ok film ,
But Creed 2 and 3 clearly see that Hollywood was trying to emulate Rocky franchise
Fails miserably, as it hasn't got anything close to Rocky films
There is only one Rocky Rocky Rocky Rocky Rocky
I didn't hear any bell is son of a b****
He got killed by Ivan drago, not viktor drago😂
Yea someone else pointed that out too, that’s my bad. It’s hard to keep track of names.
Wouldn't be werid tho it's his world not creeds, deal with it
Well the time jump from the Rocky movies to the Creed movies helps separate Rocky’s world and Adonis’s world. Also, that wide shot I talked about in the video also tells the audience that Rocky isn’t (and doesn’t want to be) part of the boxing world anymore, due to the distance between Rocky and the ring full of reporters.
It’s not victor it’s Ivan
w video
Bro calm down sylvester Stallone is getting old use the legend while you can and plus rockys a G.O.A.T
Ivan drago killed apollo not victor
Ye that’s a mistake lol, sorry.
@@wackofeather im just being a picky ass hole 😁😁
@@wackofeather do more videos amazing
That’s the plan! I’m planning a very special video next.
@@wackofeather I got an idea maybe you can do a marvel maybe you can talk about Chris Hemsworth Chris Hemsworth getting something and Chris Hemsworth so popular and specially when comes to the mcu I was just giving you an idea you don't you do that I'm just giving you an idea never we can we can thank
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NO you don't kill rocky!
Why?
@@wackofeather cuz he lives on!
@@jeffreymitchell3220 Who said that he lives forever? Rocky as a concept, a lifestyle lives on through Adonis, but Rocky succumbs to old age like the rest of us. It’s kind of poetic.
Obviously should, imagine saying no, get taste
Are you gonna give me reasoning or...?
@@wackofeather be a fan and find out why
@@JordanWilliams_Link7702 I am a fan. I spent weeks writing a solid script, voiceover, animation, and editing. I was so touched by Rocky as a franchise that a part of my life has been dedicated to making this video.
@@wackofeather yet you never wanna see him again
@@JordanWilliams_Link7702 Yes, because it would ultimately not work out well. I want future Creed movies to embody what Rocky believed in, but that doesn’t mean Rocky has to be there. See my pinned comment for actual legitimate arguments for how Rocky should have come back for Creed 3.
Yea let’s murder off rocky 👍 🤦♂️
We aren’t “murdering” off Rocky because, as I said in my video, Creed 2 clearly sets up his retirement and death. It’s pretty poetic anyways that Rocky dies after Adonis starts to embody what Balboa stands for. Now, the death doesn’t HAVE to be offscreen (though it might be better that way). Adonis may want to come to Rocky for help/advice in Creed 4, and he comes to find out that his mentor has died; this would be some pretty good inner conflict.
Rocky died in creed 2
Honestly it seems that was the implication, but Rocky was initially going to be in Creed 3, and they want to bring him back for Creed 4, so he technically isn’t dead, though it’s honestly for the better if he is, or at least stays off-screen.
@@wackofeatherif he were to die in creed 4 at the end that’ll be cool
@@wackofeather They want him back for Creed 4?
@Boximoe Cinematics Honestly it might be cooler if the dies somewhere in the beginning/middle. Maybe Adonis wants advice from Rocky and finds that he died, and now he has to push through a big fight on his own.
@Hopeful Hangover Stallone has said that he is willing to act in a Creed 4, and Micheal B Jordan has also shared similar sentiments.
Nahh creed 3 sucked
Nah Creed 3 was amazing
@@Themysteriousman6695 no it wasn't lol that's your opinion not going to sit here in the comment section argue with children over the movie later
@@juggalogamer8541 imagine liking your own comment sad LOL
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@@Madboygamer. don't care!!!
Creed 3 was trash all the Rocky movies are way better
I never said that the Rocky movies suck and that the Creed movies are better. My point was that Rocky has such a perfect character arc that it would be a shame if future Creed movies ruined it by shoehorning Rocky just for fan service.
@@wackofeather i think both Rocky and Creed should just be done with they are just milking it at this point
I mean if you look at the other comments, people have found meaningful ways that the plot can move forward in future movies, perhaps with a Rocky death or something. The franchise could absolutely end now though.
Dont give up on your vids u got this 🫡