I just bought an M1 iPad Pro for many of these exact reasons. After weeks of deliberation and comparison all in all it is by far the best value aside from perhaps the M1 iPad Air, or the 10th gen iPad. I found one for ~$550 in excellent condition with 128GB and Cellular. This should last years to come, and get all the newest features for a few more years. If you are getting your first iPad, or want to step up to Pro, this is the model to get in 2024.
My big thing keeping me away from the new m4 models is the lack of the Smart Keyboard Folio. I like to use the keyboard as a case and fold it back when I want to use it as a tablet.
LCD to OLED is a quite dramatic upgrade but miniLED to OLED is less so, if you want the 11” then I think it makes more sense, but 13” is 3x the price of a 12.9” M1 second hand, that’s a tough pill to swallow.
Great video I ended up finding an 11 in m2 iPad pro 256gb with magic keyboard and apple pencil for 750 after all fees and am absolutely loving it, and loving saving the extra money! Too make matters better its only three months old and has the limited warranty until next march. IOt has become my main ediitn computer and mobile production workhorse.
Just bought the iPad M1 11“ with 512GB and 5G used with warranty. I was debating between with the new pro and air. The old pro is a better deal than the new air, especially bc of the 120hz. And debating between old and new pro, I came to the conclusion I don’t need an M4. Especially the extra costs for the new pen and keyboard was a downturner too. Your video confirmed my decision, thanks. I paid half the price compared to the news gen without missing anything game changing.
I have my 12.9 pro 2020 model and it works perfectly for my corporate job and studies. I do note taking, emails, banking, O365 office and other web apps. I leave my MacBook at home, it’s mainly used if I need to do power point presentation editing. Battery and performance is perfect so far.
i am using this for the last 2+ years - and it works like a charm. Batter is ok as of now. gaming does drain it -but i can live with it. not planning to upgrade for atleast 2 more years - if this does not break or lost.
As someone with 10.5 inch iPad Pro. I’m starting to realize that all m series iPad are all the same. Yes better than the iPad I have now but I wasted my time thinking “the next iPad Pro would be way better”
I bought the M2 iPad Pro last year. As an illustrator it was a good upgrade from the 2018 model. The extra ram is good when using Procreate. I was able to keep my old Apple Pencil & keyboard. The new M4 iPad when u add the accessories is almost double the price so not worth it to me.
sticking with my M2 ipad pro 12.9, and my ipad mini. best of both worlds and ipad overkill. however, it fits what i love. the m1 11 inch pro is def an amazing tablet.
I was about to get the 13" pro, but figured it's not way too much bump, the M4 is a beast and the new pencil, but OS wise i think i should just stay with my M1 until i see a major difference, otherwise i'll just upgrade my macbook instead.
I bought the m4 and honestly am watching this because I truly don't know if I'll keep it. (Box hasn't arrived yet) But I made the decision because: 1. Apple Card financing is generally superior to affirm or another 3rd party payment plan. 2. Landscape Camera and mic quality is insane. For the cost difference ($400-600), it's hard to say there is a better set-up for interviews or just general calling. 3. Ideally if I buy it once, I won't have to buy an iPad again. At least for 5-6 years, or because we won't need them in that time. 4. I needed to get 5G on it However, everything else for a student or gaming usage, yeah I'd probably sleep better at night knowing I didn't overspend on the device.
You convince me even to sell my apple watch ultra and keep only the iPad air 5 that i already have 😂 I’m a student and I don’t need more than just an iPad
My M1 is more than enough for my workflow (office work, minor consumption) but I have noticed the battery is starting to wear faster and I am concerned that with 18 battery life may get significantly worse. Great video though thanks.!
I say that the iPadOS needs something like Samsung DEX (Desktop Experience) because right now is not Stage Manager. If Apple overhaul State Manager then that is a different story at current iteration is not.
I wished they would update the old Magic Keyboard to like the new magic keyboard it’s nice 😊 , I just can’t justify spending that much money on a iPad Pro m4. I’ve got the 12.9 iPad Pro gen 4 and 5th gen
I am upgrading from the 2018. The biggest reason I upgraded was because of the screen, and the M chips have better hvec decoding. Good news is that the M4 has already had some minor sales. I think they aren't selling as well, because the M1 iPad is already too fast for the software.
I took it a step further. I took the budget approach and purchased the M1 iPad Air 5 as soon as it went on sale when the new iPad models released, then picked up the Logitech Combo Touch (also on sale). Perfect setup for me.
I’ve had the 2018 IPP 12.9 up till now and I just went for the 11” M4 iPP this time. It’s not a laptop replacement and will never be, so no point going for a bigger one.
It’s that time again watching reviews to see which iPad is gonna be the one that’s gonna follow-up my current one and I didn’t even watch this video and I know it’s high quality
the 12.9 inch is really only good if you want the bigger screen like myself or not like myself you are a drawer you can still definitely use the 11 inch for drawing but if you can afford it makes sense for the 12.9 inch.
For me the only issue is that M1 pro is not available on most trustable online stores, and where it is available it is till being sold way to expensive.
It’s definitely a good device in 2024 if you don’t want to spend too much. If you can afford it tho, go for the m4. It’s lighter, has a significantly better screen and the new Magic Keyboard and pen are also a significant upgrade. It’s all in all a much more enjoyable experience and I upgraded from the m1 to the m4.
I really wanted the new M4 iPad Pro to blow my mind and save the world, but alas it did not. I chose to keep my M1 setup with keyboard & pencil. I got a 15” M3 MBA instead for under $1200 at Best Buy Black Friday in July sale.
Idk if the pro series needs mac os but they surely need to ramp up brining desktop class app support. There’s no reason why apples suite of apps like Pages isn’t the full scale app. This should have been the first to happen.
Apple has a lot of work to do on Desktop Features in iPadOS-19. Whether or not that should include Stage Manager or overhaul the entire feature for a more usable desktop experience using keyboard/mouse is another question at this point. As such iPad hardware has reached a plateaux of usability due to OS limitations when the cheaper models do most of all what the pros can do.
Hey, i would be happy if you could asnwer this! I am in EU and the price from a refurbshed m1 from apple (i would not by other refurbished type) and the price for the m2 ipad air are the same. I love the ideia of face Id but i am afraid to spend 700€ and stay with no updates in the following 2 years! Would you recomend me in this case to buy an m2 ipad air? What do you think? Thanks a lot
I’m European and I can’t wait for AI. Lucky me for having eu Apple ID and American Apple ID. For me to try it. One more question. If this will work. All the credit cards and streaming subscriptions I need to renew?
Let me ask everyone, i used to have a 12.9 M2 ipad pro.. I gave it to my cousin, I still have the old magic keyboard and like 10 different cases for it and more. I am about to go back to school, which i know i would need a ipad for, because we have to draw stuff here and there. Does it make sense to get the older 12.9 M2 or should i start all over and buy everything for the new 13 M4? I see now you can add an external camera to use for facetime since the older ipads are sideways..
I have the Apple Pencil, but I don’t use it much at all. I am primarily a Magic keyboard user. Most of my needs are not that complex. My M1 iPad Pro is more that capable doing what I need. It is a 12.9 inch 2TB model. It i fs paid for. I keep Apple Care up for, Good thing I did because the battery died on my previous. So with the Apple Care, I got a brand new replacement M1 free. So I am good for some time to come.
i got mine on facebook marketplace. you might have to search deep and wait a while, but it'll be worthwhile if you can find a good deal. i got a 256gb cellular model for $500 and definitely felt like it was worth the effort
i have the ipad pro m1 12.9 inch and it still runs perfectly and with everything i do on it, i cannot find a reason to upgrade to the latest m4 ipad pro or m2 ipad air
I saw in one of his videos he has a camera mount up top. I can’t recall if it’s attached on one side to the desk so the camera hovers over the desk high in the air or if it’s connected on both sides from the camera to his desk. For better stability I assume.
Let’s be honest. Stage manager was suppose to be the highlight of the iPad Pro and multitasking’s functionality. But Apple does Zero Improvements which is why I am considering downsizing to the new iPad mini when it is released because it will be compatible with the new Apple Pencil Pro. Shame on Apple. The fact he has to talk about the M1 iPad Pro 11in is a clear statement that the M4 is not all powerful at all. I truly believe the M4 is really M3 renamed
It’s sad. iPad was for everyone. Now iPad for specific people. iPad was half price MacBook Air. Now iPad cost more than MacBook Air. Maybe I something don’t understand?
iPad for specific people = iPad Pro iPad was for everyone = iPad 10th Gen (9th Gen or earlier) For folks in between = iPad Air/iPad Mini Not that hard to understand
@@Bronte014Not sure what you’re looking for though maybe try Android or Windows alternatives. Should be at least one device out there that can fit your needs
I get it, before we had trickle down of features over time - like the Retina display, now Face ID and 120hz is locked to Pro. Oh, well that is Apple for you.🤷🏼
People are just now realizing that when Apple says “PRO” they’re really just giving you an option to give them more money. There’s nothing extra “professional” about these devices. They’re just a separate SKU and cost more.
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Am I the only one who thinks the camera bump of the M1-M2 iPad Pros aesthetically looks WAY better than the M4 Pro..?
I have an M2 12.9 inch not planning on upgrading anytime soon 😂
100% looks better on the m1-m2
I concur. The M4’s camera housing, especially the silver version, looks cheap in comparison!
Nope. I’m disappointed there isn’t a second camera in the M4 Pros. But I still bought it anyway.
I think the unibody aluminium camera bump actually looks really good especially in colour matching cases
Mine still runs perfect, I'm not gonna upgrade for another few years, at least.
I just bought an M1 iPad Pro for many of these exact reasons. After weeks of deliberation and comparison all in all it is by far the best value aside from perhaps the M1 iPad Air, or the 10th gen iPad. I found one for ~$550 in excellent condition with 128GB and Cellular. This should last years to come, and get all the newest features for a few more years. If you are getting your first iPad, or want to step up to Pro, this is the model to get in 2024.
i was going to buy an ipad for designing(i need 13 inch) and my choice is ipad m2 or this one, which one should i pick?
Just bought me a 12.9 M1 iPad Pro and it’s perfect for needs especially when it only costed me 350.00 US dollars.
How did you get it fod so less?😊
Found it in a pawnshop in perfect condition nothing wrong with it had to just buy it.
i just got a 512 gb m1 pro 12.9 on best buy black friday sale for $540, got a whole 840$ off
I got similar for 250 last week and I am impressed by it😅
I mostly use my M1 Pro for online browsing, watching YT or porn. No need for an M4
What??😭
Lmao 🤣 Okay, you need not be that truthful here. 😅
Porn on OLED could be better. Black are pure black and stuff
I mean, at least he’s saying the truth
+1
As someone who also edits pretty heave videos on her iPad, the M1 is absolutely AMAZING. Both on the iPad and the Macbook Pro.
Would it be good for design and illustration work ie affinty and procreate?
My big thing keeping me away from the new m4 models is the lack of the Smart Keyboard Folio. I like to use the keyboard as a case and fold it back when I want to use it as a tablet.
LCD to OLED is a quite dramatic upgrade but miniLED to OLED is less so, if you want the 11” then I think it makes more sense, but 13” is 3x the price of a 12.9” M1 second hand, that’s a tough pill to swallow.
Facts
Great video I ended up finding an 11 in m2 iPad pro 256gb with magic keyboard and apple pencil for 750 after all fees and am absolutely loving it, and loving saving the extra money! Too make matters better its only three months old and has the limited warranty until next march. IOt has become my main ediitn computer and mobile production workhorse.
Just bought the iPad M1 11“ with 512GB and 5G used with warranty. I was debating between with the new pro and air. The old pro is a better deal than the new air, especially bc of the 120hz.
And debating between old and new pro, I came to the conclusion I don’t need an M4. Especially the extra costs for the new pen and keyboard was a downturner too.
Your video confirmed my decision, thanks. I paid half the price compared to the news gen without missing anything game changing.
Just bought the 12.9 M1 with cellular and is way smoother than my old 2017 10.5. Definitely a future proofed device!
I have my 12.9 pro 2020 model and it works perfectly for my corporate job and studies. I do note taking, emails, banking, O365 office and other web apps. I leave my MacBook at home, it’s mainly used if I need to do power point presentation editing. Battery and performance is perfect so far.
My 2018 Pro still runs fine in 2024 😊
Does the 2018 iPad Pro still get Operating System updates? If not what is the latest OS it can use? Thanks in advance for your reply.
@@stevenrobertson4190 yep it still gets the latest
@@pangshengwei Thanks. So it's running IOS 17 now?
@@stevenrobertson4190 yep
@@stevenrobertson4190it’s also going to get the iOS 18 update
i am using this for the last 2+ years - and it works like a charm. Batter is ok as of now. gaming does drain it -but i can live with it. not planning to upgrade for atleast 2 more years - if this does not break or lost.
Still rocking the m1 11 inch, couldn’t ask for more tbh
As someone with 10.5 inch iPad Pro.
I’m starting to realize that all m series iPad are all the same. Yes better than the iPad I have now but I wasted my time thinking “the next iPad Pro would be way better”
I bought the M2 iPad Pro last year. As an illustrator it was a good upgrade from the 2018 model. The extra ram is good when using Procreate. I was able to keep my old Apple Pencil & keyboard. The new M4 iPad when u add the accessories is almost double the price so not worth it to me.
sticking with my M2 ipad pro 12.9, and my ipad mini. best of both worlds and ipad overkill. however, it fits what i love. the m1 11 inch pro is def an amazing tablet.
I was about to get the 13" pro, but figured it's not way too much bump, the M4 is a beast and the new pencil, but OS wise i think i should just stay with my M1 until i see a major difference, otherwise i'll just upgrade my macbook instead.
I bought the m4 and honestly am watching this because I truly don't know if I'll keep it. (Box hasn't arrived yet)
But I made the decision because:
1. Apple Card financing is generally superior to affirm or another 3rd party payment plan.
2. Landscape Camera and mic quality is insane. For the cost difference ($400-600), it's hard to say there is a better set-up for interviews or just general calling.
3. Ideally if I buy it once, I won't have to buy an iPad again. At least for 5-6 years, or because we won't need them in that time.
4. I needed to get 5G on it
However, everything else for a student or gaming usage, yeah I'd probably sleep better at night knowing I didn't overspend on the device.
I’ve been wanting to upgrade my 2018 12.9in iPad Pro and want to keep my pencil 2 and Magic Keyboard. This seems to be viable option. ☺️
You convince me even to sell my apple watch ultra and keep only the iPad air 5 that i already have 😂 I’m a student and I don’t need more than just an iPad
My M1 is more than enough for my workflow (office work, minor consumption) but I have noticed the battery is starting to wear faster and I am concerned that with 18 battery life may get significantly worse. Great video though thanks.!
I say that the iPadOS needs something like Samsung DEX (Desktop Experience) because right now is not Stage Manager. If Apple overhaul State Manager then that is a different story at current iteration is not.
I've had my M1 Ipad Pro 12.9" for a while. And it suits my needs just fine. I don't do any work with it. Reading, watching video's, email, that's all.
13 inch M4 pro is something special
I wished they would update the old Magic Keyboard to like the new magic keyboard it’s nice 😊 , I just can’t justify spending that much money on a iPad Pro m4. I’ve got the 12.9 iPad Pro gen 4 and 5th gen
I am upgrading from the 2018. The biggest reason I upgraded was because of the screen, and the M chips have better hvec decoding. Good news is that the M4 has already had some minor sales. I think they aren't selling as well, because the M1 iPad is already too fast for the software.
I took it a step further. I took the budget approach and purchased the M1 iPad Air 5 as soon as it went on sale when the new iPad models released, then picked up the Logitech Combo Touch (also on sale). Perfect setup for me.
The 13" M2 base MacBook Air is the pefect balance IMO
I’ve had the 2018 IPP 12.9 up till now and I just went for the 11” M4 iPP this time. It’s not a laptop replacement and will never be, so no point going for a bigger one.
It’s that time again watching reviews to see which iPad is gonna be the one that’s gonna follow-up my current one and I didn’t even watch this video and I know it’s high quality
I use m1 ipad pro for the last 2 years and its honestly more than enough for whatever you wanna use it for
Got my 11inch pro 2021 brand new and it’s still a banger
You're lucky that you can get the battery replaced. In Denmark, we can only get the entire device replaced.
Which is sometimes even better, same in Germany.
@@oleksiysaiko5859 Yeah, but it's just 4x the price.
@@jonas8266 ah, I just have AppleCare+, so I don’t pay for the new device in that case
the 12.9 inch is really only good if you want the bigger screen like myself or not like myself you are a drawer you can still definitely use the 11 inch for drawing but if you can afford it makes sense for the 12.9 inch.
For me the only issue is that M1 pro is not available on most trustable online stores, and where it is available it is till being sold way to expensive.
2:35 did I see bend ?
What about the m2 iPad pro?
It’s definitely a good device in 2024 if you don’t want to spend too much. If you can afford it tho, go for the m4. It’s lighter, has a significantly better screen and the new Magic Keyboard and pen are also a significant upgrade. It’s all in all a much more enjoyable experience and I upgraded from the m1 to the m4.
I really wanted the new M4 iPad Pro to blow my mind and save the world, but alas it did not. I chose to keep my M1 setup with keyboard & pencil. I got a 15” M3 MBA instead for under $1200 at Best Buy Black Friday in July sale.
Thank you flor this video. Much needed and makes perfect sense.
Idk if the pro series needs mac os but they surely need to ramp up brining desktop class app support. There’s no reason why apples suite of apps like Pages isn’t the full scale app. This should have been the first to happen.
My m1 12,9 iPad Pro is my main and only computer. For me makes no sense to upgrade...
Do you have and use cellular? And which storage do you have?
Is it safe to get the M1 iPad Pro from eBay?
Apple has a lot of work to do on Desktop Features in iPadOS-19. Whether or not that should include Stage Manager or overhaul the entire feature for a more usable desktop experience using keyboard/mouse is another question at this point. As such iPad hardware has reached a plateaux of usability due to OS limitations when the cheaper models do most of all what the pros can do.
precisely :)
What is that last line about? All my girlies who use it for a specific thing?
Hey, i would be happy if you could asnwer this! I am in EU and the price from a refurbshed m1 from apple (i would not by other refurbished type) and the price for the m2 ipad air are the same. I love the ideia of face Id but i am afraid to spend 700€ and stay with no updates in the following 2 years! Would you recomend me in this case to buy an m2 ipad air? What do you think? Thanks a lot
I’m European and I can’t wait for AI. Lucky me for having eu Apple ID and American Apple ID. For me to try it.
One more question. If this will work. All the credit cards and streaming subscriptions I need to renew?
Let me ask everyone, i used to have a 12.9 M2 ipad pro.. I gave it to my cousin, I still have the old magic keyboard and like 10 different cases for it and more. I am about to go back to school, which i know i would need a ipad for, because we have to draw stuff here and there. Does it make sense to get the older 12.9 M2 or should i start all over and buy everything for the new 13 M4? I see now you can add an external camera to use for facetime since the older ipads are sideways..
12.9 M2 !
no doubt
u can use external camera for the m2 as well bc of IOS 17 I believe
Hi do you use any screen protector for your iPad or just case?
I have the Apple Pencil, but I don’t use it much at all. I am primarily a Magic keyboard user. Most of my needs are not that complex. My M1 iPad Pro is more that capable doing what I need. It is a 12.9 inch 2TB model. It i fs paid for. I keep Apple Care up for, Good thing I did because the battery died on my previous. So with the Apple Care, I got a brand new replacement M1 free. So I am good for some time to come.
I wanna buy an iPad as my first iPad for entertainment and note talking, my limit is unlimited. Should I buy the m4 iPad Pro?
I jumped from the m2 11 pro to m4 13.
The new iPad Pro lacks mmWave and I rely on Cell model which is strange they took it off… got the m2 pro 128gb celluar new best buy for 699
yessir. i got one in february to replace my ipad air 2 and i really feel like it can last me the next ten years
Where did you get it? I’m trynna look for new models. Thanks!
i got mine on facebook marketplace. you might have to search deep and wait a while, but it'll be worthwhile if you can find a good deal. i got a 256gb cellular model for $500 and definitely felt like it was worth the effort
Ok good because i just ordered me a used one on amazon
i have the ipad pro m1 12.9 inch and it still runs perfectly and with everything i do on it, i cannot find a reason to upgrade to the latest m4 ipad pro or m2 ipad air
Do not upgrade to the air series if you use the pro model. You would get some downgrade in certain important area
@@afiefswift5403 yea i love the dispplay on the ipad pro and also the lidar camera proved to be extremely usefull for me
I have a question, is your 13 inch m4 ipad pro has nano texture?
That shirt 👏 ❤
Also out of curiosity how do you film your desk view ?
I saw in one of his videos he has a camera mount up top. I can’t recall if it’s attached on one side to the desk so the camera hovers over the desk high in the air or if it’s connected on both sides from the camera to his desk. For better stability I assume.
If you don't want sir you can give to me I really need one for study ❤❤❤❤
Naw I'ma stop you right there (I have only iPad pros and I think the iPad air should get better software) I'm with you on the 1st though.
I have the m1 iPad Pro and I do the same thing as u
No sense in upgrading, it’s a shame the OS is holding it back
Let’s be honest. Stage manager was suppose to be the highlight of the iPad Pro and multitasking’s functionality. But Apple does Zero Improvements which is why I am considering downsizing to the new iPad mini when it is released because it will be compatible with the new Apple Pencil Pro. Shame on Apple.
The fact he has to talk about the M1 iPad Pro 11in is a clear statement that the M4 is not all powerful at all. I truly believe the M4 is really M3 renamed
Buyer be careful. The M1 iPads are designed to stop working after 3 years
It’s sad. iPad was for everyone. Now iPad for specific people.
iPad was half price MacBook Air. Now iPad cost more than MacBook Air. Maybe I something don’t understand?
iPad for specific people = iPad Pro
iPad was for everyone = iPad 10th Gen (9th Gen or earlier)
For folks in between = iPad Air/iPad Mini
Not that hard to understand
@@arondyte318wait a minute. We talk about “best” iPad. Because we don’t talk about best MacBook.
@@arondyte318maybe it you don’t understand…
@@Bronte014Not sure what you’re looking for though maybe try Android or Windows alternatives. Should be at least one device out there that can fit your needs
I get it, before we had trickle down of features over time - like the Retina display, now Face ID and 120hz is locked to Pro. Oh, well that is Apple for you.🤷🏼
People are just now realizing that when Apple says “PRO” they’re really just giving you an option to give them more money. There’s nothing extra “professional” about these devices. They’re just a separate SKU and cost more.
Apple iPad PROfit for it's full name!
❤
Just bought the first 11 inch m1 iPad with lte used for 250