Better than Pro-Q3? The New KING of Equalizers Kirchhoff EQ 🤯🤯
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00:00 INTRO
01:40 117 bit Processing??
02:40 Why This EQ Sounds Better? Science!
5:30 The Best Dynamic EQ?
10:00 Vintage EQ Emulations
12:00 New Stereo Placement
14:00 Extra New Features
ITS so easy to use IT seperating frequencies and shaping Sounds that they get a specific Atmosphäre and Image
You can Pan IT
I didnt scratched the overground of IT because im Not a Pro or master
But ITS straight Logic 😂😂😂
Just the notch is Not This good so you cant Control the bell AS well AS with for example with tdr Nova what i saw
But i think i Just didnt found Out how ITS done with the Kirchhoff 😂😂
Man thx a Lot
You explained All the Things i want to know about paning EQ
This Video is my reference to make me notice what i can do with Just one Plugin
Im using This EQ on all my Instruments and Sounds
It seems like they combined the quality of DMG Equilibrium with the MS capabilities of TDR SlickEQ Mastering Edition with the interface and ease of use of Pro-Q 3, with the analog curves available in Equilibrium and MAAT thEQblue and other mastering EQ plugins and then some, and added an even better dynamic section than that of Pro-Q 3 or TDR Nova GE, and then came up with a mixed phase algorithm just because.
Hats off to the guys at Three-Body Technology because this product really stands out in the current market and the price is not crazy compared to other top of the line EQs.
The only thing that confuses me is that the company they mainly make virtual Chinese instruments and some saturation and basic EQs. Then they suddenly create the best digital EQ in the world? No doubt they've done some great work, but how did this small virtual instrument company in China leap over FabFilter, DMG, Weiss and others so far? Maybe they just lucked out by hiring a genius audio software engineer. Or were FF and others taking too long to develop updated versions e.g. Pro-Q 4, which I bet is gonna have most of Kirchhoff EQ features!
@@RJ1J Maybe they reverse engineered the crap out of popular plugins?
They collaborated with a famous Chinese electronic engineering professor and I guess that the developers studied with him.
Thank you so much for this video. I own also other EQ´s, and they have there use. But after seeing this video I decided to go for it. And yesterday evening I already had this wow moment, how much easier this eq can make your life. I consider myself very much a noob, still have a lot to learn, thank you for sharing your professional, to the point, as it is, knowledge! I am now working on my first serious project, and this is so much what we need as home producers. I am in it for the love of making music, and it´s so difficult often in the forest of internet to hear a clear voice....
that mid side slider is crazy. and the fact that you can use that on any band, static or dynamic. wow.
That mixed phased algorithm moves very similar to the surfer eq but with phase this just put everybody on major notice I might not need certain compressors anymore as I try to fix issues with eq alone that dynamic section is ridiculous hats off to three body and to you as well for always sharing the right information and not misleading people never seen one bad vid from you at all learned a lot as well thanks
I have been using the Kirchhoff Eq for several months now. It is great. 👍
Mind blowing ! Till now I had to use two seperate equalizers to be able to use Dynamic EQ functions properly as well as normal Mid Side Processing and everything... Thanks for the very well done and precise walkthrough video
This changes everything! Great video thank you!🤘🔥
Both an excellent review and an informative hands-on tips'n'tricks.
Thank you. 👍
The dynamic control on this is brilliant.
Just bought it and tried it for the first time. It’s incredible! Replaced all my EQs that aren’t analog based. Thank you for the review. I’ve been waiting for the price drop that finally happened.
Three-Body Tech should win a Nobel Prize for this.
Very cool. Thanks for the share!
I just picked up Kirchhoff EQ, and it's FANTASTIC!!
Wow, this looks pretty amazing!
Great video it looks like a fabulous plugin. Thanks for adding the vendor's link
Ok...this is the best Eq ever. Only one thing missing...saturation when emulating analog eqs.
There are enough "emulations". Not everything has to sound "analog". To be honest 99% of mix engineers would not even be able to tell the difference. At least with plugins made within the last 10 yrs
@@johnwalter6410 true!
Saw another video the other day about Kirchoff EQ from another opinion i trust (Heron Island Studio) and he raved about it too. Welp, these 2 recommendations are enough for me, i gotta get this. Thanks for the vid
wooooooooooooooooooooowwwww what a beauty .......the EQ is exquisite im getting one soon
Well explained and detailed!
I'm really glad you did this review because I've heard so many people talk about the EQ but most have absolutely no competence in the area of signal processing, so they don't really understand why the filters are different.
Nice breakdown and video editing.
the below/above dynamic feature seems so obvious but genius
great video as always ...
let's share a thought full of compassion for that rapper who listen to his track mixed with better and better tools each months ahahah
Big learning curve, but really a great accomplishment.
the guidebook did, and now I finally understand the chanics!
I was offended by the title until i watched the whole video. they should give you some sponsorship after this GREAT video.
BTW! I make like a couple of comments on youtube each year, and this one got the comment of the year! 😂😂😂
Cool, I stumbled upon this about 2 Month ago or so... nice here now you come up to reflect it little bit- thumps up
That mid/side slider is super cool!
Awesome video!! The only function missing now is the “split eq” and a harmonics section. Pro q clearly paved the way for the look of this plugin. Let’s see what comes of Pro Q 4? Cheers!
When will the pro q 4 arrive u think?
I tried it and DAAMNNNN is it smooth. I’ve never had an EQ that runs this smoothly and easy. Yea my past EQs are the stock one and even the F6-Dynamic but this is just tops for me. I decided to go on the upgrade since my other EQs aren’t like wow or anything but the Pro Q is mad expensive so I decided to go with this one.
Thanks David !
Turning all our favourite desk eq’s to Dynamik is a well thought out move, would be interesting to see if the eq “values” actually match the original eq’s which in my experience e and g the number being shown on the board had nothing to do with what was actually happening, especially with the hi pass
Wow, this thing is ridiculous. Plus one for my shopping list. Great review man.
Damn!!.......talk about leave no stone unturned!!. Even an amateur like me can see that, with the huge amount of features, it's still all laid out in a very wise and sensible way.
Just like with the SplitEQ, this is going to be such a big advancement for professional mastering engineers.....or anyone else that wants the ultimate digital EQ ;:-)
6:32 the purple line won my heart. I want purple lines in all threshold knobs now! isn’t obvious
I still prefer the Fabfilter Pro-Q3 because it's still more comfortable for me. Yes, it has fewer functions, but the workflow is maximally optimized and simplified - years of development, after all. Kirchhoff EQ is more functional, no doubt, but less convenient to use. In addition, although there are many curves that emulate analog equalizers, they are just curves, without saturation. Plus, these curves are not yet very convenient to include. Now, if there was analog saturation to analog curves - then it would be top!
Exactly
loving it ...
Happily seated for this one 😊
When David says "gamechanger", ya gotta pay attention. I really do benefit from the bundle Plugin Alliance offers. lots of goodies in there
I'm wondering how the Nyquist-matched transform algorithm uses information about the Nyquist frequency to "cramp" the signal in a more analog-like fashion. I just emailed them the question. Really impressive seeming EQ. Can't wait to hear it. Thanks!
I love this plugin!!! Best!
Such a dope breakdown,, thanks,,,,,,, you sound so good, where is your mic? ....Do you have a video explaining your streaming setup?
I don't, it's a $20 lav from amazon
absolutely does seem like a game changer.
Like the mind blowing plugin! It is a mind blowing introduction video as well! Good job.
Does the analogue emulation only emulates the curve? or also the circuitry? the saturation?
Curves only
Split EQ and now this!
This is f*cking amazing. Just finished my album and was gonna take a break but I wanna use this workhorse.
Very curious about this one. I’ve always liked linear phase EQs in very specific scenarios (such as a top end boost on something not transient heavy, like vocals) but actively dislike them most other places. I’ve always wondered if the quantization noise and transient smearing is part of what I’m hearing that I like about them in those upper frequencies. I’ve also thought that an EQ that allows different algorithms for different moves would be helpful (as opposed to 2 different instances). Curious!
This is idd the best eq. I think if you had this eq when starting out, I don't think you will ever need other eq because you have everything combined in one and yet still in the same prize with Pro Q
Now a couple months later I sprang for this Kirchhoff and the Split EQ (on sale of course) , this should have me and whomever else pretty covered for fixing problems and getting nerdy surgical ,very cool gear and it's lite weight and easy to install ! kidding.
this is beyond insane wow! Fab filter has some real competition. it's insane the ideas these companies are thinking of too! they just keep pushing audio forward. i love it!
Amazing
Wow, I’m really impressed by the new dynamic processing of the Kirchhoff EQ! I think FabFilter Pro Q3 is/was the best digital EQ but I think I must give this new Kirchhoff plug-in a chance. Thanks for letting us know and sharing your thoughts about it.
If it had the features of Split EQ where you can EQ separately the transient and the tail, it would be the king of the king of EQs. Hopefully Fabfilter will get new ideas from this one and from Split EQ when they will release Pro Q4
Yes, they are gonna crush those features in the update!
@@everybodyhasoul5438 Heard any rumours about when Pro Q 4 might come out? I would like to upgrade from the Isotope dynamic EQ and I'm tempted by this but may be better holding off until pro Q 4
Let me add, it’s missing eq match and the ability to inverse a side chains response for sitting vocals in the mix. Pro q3 can do that.
This EQ really deserves attention, will try it.
About the surprising analog gear emulation, does it emulate analog hardware color or just the EQ curves?
Curves
Pretty Insane
This is Bestest EQ!!!
I picked this up a few weeks ago and really like it. The great thing is the demo has no time limit and only restriction is loading and saving presets. Only con I’ve seen is it doesn’t seem to have the ability to add analog character, it’s just a clean digital EQ. Which isn’t a big problem to me. Another great EQ similar to this but not as advanced is the HoRNeT Total EQ which you can pick up for like $14 on sale often. Total EQ does have a per band saturation feature. One con is while it has dynamic EQ per band it’s fixed. But a good simple option that is very affordable.
Demo without a time limit? That’s wonderful!
My anti virus said i need to be aware of there is malware in?!?
Toneboosters Equalizer 4 is also another excellent cheap alternative, and it has well featured dynamics even compared pro-q3.
@@chaddonal4331 there isn’t analog emulation, it’s just EQ matching the hardware. You can add your own saturation to a signal via some other plugin.
Mind = BLOWN!
This has made the EQ list I have 5 plug-ins shorter lol
Melda MAutoDynamic EQ
I have you tried this one sir...
it is a Masterpiece!👍✅🔥🔥
It's what I use always, I downloaded the Kirchhoff-EQ and it doesn't feel that powerful compared to MAutoDynamicEq, the Dynamic eq is better on the Melda EQ hands down and if you need more you can create your own experiment using multi parameters and Lfo 🤘🏻
o m g As long as the top end sounds nice like the SSL x EQ. I think it does when it talks about the anti cramping thing. Isnt this also a multi band compressor?
It's not the same as a multiband compressor as there are no crossovers but the dynamics section is so advanced that it can probably be used as one.
Any update ? Are you still using it ? Did it replaced the pro q 3 on every situation ? Thanks
Thanks, David, for the great run down. For the Vintage emulations, do you think the filter shapes/characteristics alone are enough to capture the feeling of the original hardware, considering that this plugin probably isn't also emulating the "coloring" (e.g. any saturation, etc.) of the original hardware circuits? Or am I overthinking this?
You only have the curves emulated here, not the colors
Just combine a cupwise n4 pre amp with this EQ. Bam analog
@@mixbustv Thank you!
@@mixbustv Thanks for the great video. Quick question. Do you know whether they will add the specific colors of the vintage hardware models as well at some point?
Can it display multi instances of the eq ? Will give it a try .
Wow, that is a feature packed EQ. Thanks for the review!
I love this thing, I wonder what fabfilter thought when this came out, I ve got a sneaking suspicion that whatever release date they had for the new Pro Q4 was delayed somewhat.
Expect an update soon on Q3 lol
Attack and release on dynamics on Q3 was very much missed but this thing has dropped more than one mic on the floor... Fab filter has to get scribbling on the drawing board again for sure!
They have been the same for years, naturally when you're the best 'go to' and they are still amazing. They will have to update now, no reason not to.
Thank you, i think this has features i have been looking for
Does it show the clashing frequencies between 2 tracks like in fab filter?
hello, in frequency2 (cubase stock plugins) you can declare more than one side chain source, and each dynamic band can use a different side chain source
(it s really cool feature for example with a single instance you can duck the lowend with the bass, duck the mid with the vocal...)
, can kirchoff do that?
right now i m using pro q3+frequency+split eq + some analogue eq emulation (with non linearities)...i wish i could use only one plugin to replace them all.
The other day you tested out the SPL Passive EQ hardware and wanted to see if you could compare it with Plugin Alliance SPL Passive EQ it be nice to see a comparison between both to see how close they emulated the plugin, if you can do it in a future video I'll appreciate it👍
Mine is not the PassEQ, is the PQ, very different. There's no plug-in for my eq
@@mixbustv now Plugin Alliance has the SPL PQ as a plugin now. 😁
Masterclass
No Moog or Oberheim filter??? Tssss....
:D
Thx for this review. I see they have an "OwnTHD" fx .... For us poor ones who work purely digital, any idea of its usefulness?
I didn't know at all this ThreeBodyTech maker. Their Chinese flutes are very appealing too ^^ Thx.
I looked at the Three Body Tech/Kirchhoff site, as well as a KVR discussion page, which indicate that this plug-in still isn’t Apple Silicon native.
I’m avoiding Rosetta 2 on my recording set-up, so until the Kirchhoff EQ runs naive, it’s a hard pass for me.
hi david what do you think about tim petherick plugins im curious what you think about his comp bus and other plugins he makes!
Never heard of em
dude the gain staging in the promo vid for this plugin lol
I was literally thinking 2 days ago that this will be the next eq trend, ie the analog curves. I was wondering why it hadn't been done already!
@@nickmessitte1721 I just hadn't seen it anywhere yet. It's a gamechanger I think
I think waves did it too with their H EQ.
Are you using a Rode Lavalier?
Luckily the FF Pro Q3 does everything I need it to do. For other tasks I have Hofa IQ EQ and a few others.
If you prefere using 5 plugins when you could do everything with one..
@@mixbustv to Be honest the Kirchhoff does nothing I need
Even the "Snake Oil" guy said it was good. 🤣🤣🤣🔥
the Therms "quantisation noise" and "Oversampling" are a bit new to me fro digital equalizers.. quantisation noise, i never heard about that for EQs, and Oversampling, well that should be for analoge emulation..
Dynamic processors create harmonics so oversampling in a dynamic EQ makes sense as it will reduce aliasing.
I was genuinely sceptical that this would be noticeably better than Pro-Q 3. Difference is huge. Particularly in the tonal imprint on the high end - I’m a convert, this is my new pre-analog chain mastering EQ.
@Hell Cat I’ve found that as well. I usually only apply it sparingly to the low end for light subtractive shaping before it gets sent out to my analog chain.
Currently not available to buy in the UK :(
After using Kirchhoff for 2 months, I found myself going back to ProQ3. Maybe I'm one of few who had this issue, but the Kirchhoff couldn't keep up with my work load of 35-50 tracks, each with plugins. It began to run slowly and render my projects difficult to work on. I literally thought my PC was dying, but realised later it was just the Kirchhoff that was the issue. Going back to ProQ3, I missed it so much and projects began to run smoothly once again. I would like to iterate that I have friends who enjoy the Kirchhoff and switched to it, but it's just my personal experience and I didn't enjoy it.
Sounds like you need a better computer not a worse eq
@@mixbustv my PC is on 64gb ram and i9 with all the storage in the world. Still acted very weird and kept glitching my projects. ProQ3 is phenomenal and still gets the job done. Stay humble g.
@@mixbustv 🤡
It's on sale!
I bought this last night and already loving it. I can’t figure out how to use external sidechain though and it’s not in the manual 🤦♂️
Hi MG, did you find it out ? ..there is a little Ext. switch in the dynamic Section 👍
@@thepanicroommastering2062 I did! Thank you
Dave, 2 questions.
1. Does this EQ allow to switch to Linear Phase mode for dynamic EQing on either mid/side? For example you want to add dynamic boost on sides but with Linear Phase mode
2. Many times you mentioned that using Linear Phase EQ for HPF and low end filters is not good idea. Indeed using regular EQ for HPF while mastering in most cases sounds better. What about these new Linear Phase modes for HPF?
Thank you
To the first question, no you can't do that, it would be pretty tricky to achieve that because you'd have different latency, probably you'd have to delay the minimum phase signal as well but also, I don't see much use for that.
Second question: this is gonna minimize most of the problems regular LP have, especially with mixed phase since you can even select the xover freq. Time (and use) will tell.
1. In my observing with Bertom EQ Analyzer, Ozone 9 Dynamic EQ (has mid/side) Digital mode does linear phase.
Ciao David, is the modelling part imitating the behaviour of analog EQs also coloration-wise?
nope, curves only
@@mixbustv it might be a good thing though...
I might have missed this in the video but, how is the CPU use compared with Pro-Q3?
It's about the same, a pinch more CPU used than proeq3 but very little in it. According to my Reaper CPU reading...
Really nice interface, soundwise like Pro Q3.
Not really, 117bit, adaptve filter topologies (less quantization nose), and the dynamic section is not even close. Way more then just the gui, this is a superior eq
@@mixbustv Changed my opinion after playing a little bit longer with the EQ. In deed - this EQ is really superior I have to admit.
Wtf it is not, you can get a pretty damn good null with the Pro Q3, but the Q factor is different so keep that in mind@@bjornschulz5177
So Dave what do you prefer analogue eqs or digital?
Safe to say analog
I am very impressed with your knowledge. I'd love to see more examples of when you use mid/side EQ and the related slider in a master. Is this something you commonly would do or is it a feature that you are happy to have on board for rare occasions. Wonderful stuff!
I have many examples in previous videos but as for the concept, I made this to answer the many questions on the subject: ua-cam.com/video/PtI8IVOUlAk/v-deo.html
@@mixbustv thank you. I just watched that video and it confirmed my thoughts on the topic. Specific cases it can be useful but it can often be destructive. Great content. Thanks for responding.
They have a Auto Resonanz Finder?
It’s pretty cheap for what it does also 👍👍
Can you please make video about the API Select SR24 Dual Channel Parametric EQ?
Tell API :D
@@mixbustv I just spoke to API. How can we communicate outside the comment section?
Being able to use a Neve-style curve for the high's, an SSL-style curve for the mid's, and a seemingly ISA-style curve for the low's? Seems pretty bad-ass to me!
Looks pretty damn good! How does the CPU footprint compare to Pro-Q3?
Same
It is not the same, pro q 3 is better optimized and doesn't really have options that just waste CPU like kirchhoff does. Kirchhoff seems to run fine on some systems but pretty bad on others
@@AlonsoJoaquinComposer Thank you.
I so hope Dan Worral is on this
To do what? Lol
The power and control you can buy for $120 in this EQ is mindbending 🤯