In the Terror match, with them tapped out, you could just use Tortex to discard your creature, rerurn Crypt Rats, and kill them. No additional turns required. I honestly think that line was missed a couple times.
I could have also gone with the cool Krark-Clan line to kill my cats to drain them for that last 3 (It looks like I only missed the Rat line once). I don't think I could lose from that position anyway with the cat loop that I had so maybe I was just playing it safe, but yeah should have just gone for the kill.
How did your deck end up going? I assume it was more 'See if you could make it work' type of thing. The goat seems to always give me a pummeling in limited whenever I have played against it.
@Kirblinxy I went 2-2, which exceeded expectations! I won vs poison storm (the goat was CLUTCH) and mono blue terror, lost vs affinity (I'll be honest I was not prepared for this match, even though it's huge in meta this was the first time in months I've played vs it) and lost vs izzet faeries but that match was CLOSE. We went to turns and I made them have 3 lightning bolts to face to win on the last turn. The main board felt really solid because I threw some normally sideboard cards in as 2 ofs, and the sideboard was mostly good except for a good- enough affinity plan. Overall pleased and want to play again
Oh hells yes. I've been wanting to make tortex catcow work forever. I didn't realize Mukotai Ambusher was also an artifact creature rat so it's besties with Refurbished Familiar.
I was really hoping to see the food + cat + rats combo here to gain a little life and deal slightly more to the opponent You activate all your crypt rats damage as one damage pings and you bring the cats back after each ping In this situation it would have only gained two life but you would not have been dead to bolt of drawn
It is one of the most loved cards in the format for a reason. I think you hit the nail on the head with the 'THIS time it will work out'. Card is just inherent card disadvantage straight up and you really have to work to get that card back. Games with it a really cool and grindy and I'm glad it is still a thing that we can come back to to see if the tools are there for it to work this time.
Is there any chance this deck wants to play Merchant of the Vale or Insolent Neonate as ways to rummage that you can buyback off Tort Ex? In terms of ways to get card advantage, Grave Scrabbler is an obvious candidate.
I feel like Epicure is just a better Neonate these days and I mention at the end that it was worth bringing back in. Grave Scrabbler work alright with the Madness enablers but I think Sanitarium Skeleton is the better card with Tortex.
Do you think the deck has room for a set of exhumes? It seems to fit so naturally with the trolls and maybe a couple more pliphaunts, and could be a nice alternative gameplan vs affinity and some faster decks. I'd cut the mukotai or a couple familiars
Definitely an option. It's sort of the same how some people shoved this option into the Goblin Combo deck as a way to juke people early. My only concern is lowering the creature count isn't too great for the Tortex engine, but still worth a test.
@vengance7104 I wouldn't add more than one. The issue with the deck is staying alive at the start to get to the late game to use your engine to outvalue them. Carrion feeder can't block and doesn't really start applying pressure until you have sacrificed 3+ creatures which won't happen early so it doesn'treally help your clock. It is fine as a Sac outlet for the cat but I think I would prefer munitions for more interaction as a Sac outlet.
I run a list like this but with gates to buff the rat so it doesn´t die, to make treasures as to have stored mana and artifacts for kc-shaman and to buff the ambusher for lifegain. I love Cat-cow
@vicxinthehouse I feel like the deck is slow enough as is that I don't know if I would be able to handle the gate manabase. I know it helps close out the game quicker but I'm concerned you would get to the late game for that to matter.
I feel like Sanitarium Skeleton is just better most of the time. The problem with Grave Scrabbler is that it needs to die to be able to keep gaining you cards. It also blocks early which is handy.
@@Kirblinxy I think that when your deck already has an aggressive slant, it is not hard to convince an opponent to kill it, either because it helps them not die to your other 2/2s or because they need to kill you before you accrue too much value. Though it has been almost 5 years since I last resolved the card in a league.
I don't even have a stop in opponents main 2. I think it was always in response to a Refurb, so I had to try and get my value before my cards were discarded. Would love to get a timestamp if you could point to where I was doing this.
Really like this build. Not focused on dredge mechanic and with some of most beautiful creatures in world ❤ cheers
Play some of it Zio!
@@joaopedroalmeidacaetano1619 for sure bro!! 🫡🖤🤎
It is a very unique deck. Always nice to come back to it.
R1 opponent: "man that game was a grind"
Bro thats what your deck is designed to do
@@brettschmuckler4242 I laughed 😅
Best deck in the format !! Love the update :)
Definitely the most fan-favourite in the format, that's for sure.
In the Terror match, with them tapped out, you could just use Tortex to discard your creature, rerurn Crypt Rats, and kill them. No additional turns required. I honestly think that line was missed a couple times.
I could have also gone with the cool Krark-Clan line to kill my cats to drain them for that last 3 (It looks like I only missed the Rat line once). I don't think I could lose from that position anyway with the cat loop that I had so maybe I was just playing it safe, but yeah should have just gone for the kill.
so pumped to watch this!! I made an orzhov catcow tortex post-duskmourn so I could play with possessed goat, played a jund list after MH3. so fun :D
How did your deck end up going? I assume it was more 'See if you could make it work' type of thing. The goat seems to always give me a pummeling in limited whenever I have played against it.
@Kirblinxy I went 2-2, which exceeded expectations! I won vs poison storm (the goat was CLUTCH) and mono blue terror, lost vs affinity (I'll be honest I was not prepared for this match, even though it's huge in meta this was the first time in months I've played vs it) and lost vs izzet faeries but that match was CLOSE. We went to turns and I made them have 3 lightning bolts to face to win on the last turn.
The main board felt really solid because I threw some normally sideboard cards in as 2 ofs, and the sideboard was mostly good except for a good- enough affinity plan. Overall pleased and want to play again
Great video as always.
One thing though, if you can have a filter for your mic to lower the background noises, like birds chirping 😅
@@v01dv01d But it adds to the aesthetic... I'll see what I can do.
I’m happy to hear this list is so popular! It’s a really cool list
i do like stinkweed imp because it gives you extra selection + always lets you have a creature in hand
Oh hells yes. I've been wanting to make tortex catcow work forever. I didn't realize Mukotai Ambusher was also an artifact creature rat so it's besties with Refurbished Familiar.
I didn't think the Ambusher was needed, but it fits so many niches the deck needs that keep putting it back in.
YEAH BRO LET'S GOOOO
I was really hoping to see the food + cat + rats combo here to gain a little life and deal slightly more to the opponent
You activate all your crypt rats damage as one damage pings and you bring the cats back after each ping
In this situation it would have only gained two life but you would not have been dead to bolt of drawn
Edit : meant to attach a timestamp - 25:29
@devangoad Fair point. I did do this in the last video I believe. I didn't think about Galv Blast I would have tried to find this line if I did.
This is cute as hell. I love learning little tricks like this 💖
TorEx is fascinating.
It's so difficult to play and so relatively low-power but it always feels like THIS time it'll work out.
It is one of the most loved cards in the format for a reason. I think you hit the nail on the head with the 'THIS time it will work out'. Card is just inherent card disadvantage straight up and you really have to work to get that card back. Games with it a really cool and grindy and I'm glad it is still a thing that we can come back to to see if the tools are there for it to work this time.
Is there any chance this deck wants to play Merchant of the Vale or Insolent Neonate as ways to rummage that you can buyback off Tort Ex? In terms of ways to get card advantage, Grave Scrabbler is an obvious candidate.
I feel like Epicure is just a better Neonate these days and I mention at the end that it was worth bringing back in. Grave Scrabbler work alright with the Madness enablers but I think Sanitarium Skeleton is the better card with Tortex.
Do you think the deck has room for a set of exhumes? It seems to fit so naturally with the trolls and maybe a couple more pliphaunts, and could be a nice alternative gameplan vs affinity and some faster decks. I'd cut the mukotai or a couple familiars
Definitely an option. It's sort of the same how some people shoved this option into the Goblin Combo deck as a way to juke people early. My only concern is lowering the creature count isn't too great for the Tortex engine, but still worth a test.
Dont forget to finish your matches before the league ends on 25/09/2024 08:00:00 AM!
@dt6352 Checks watch... Uh Oh
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@@naip3 Thanks! Was trying to find a way to make it different from the last one. The poor guy was just starving!
What do you think about adding a couple Carrion Feeder to have a sacoutlet for the cat and developing another threat?
@vengance7104 I wouldn't add more than one. The issue with the deck is staying alive at the start to get to the late game to use your engine to outvalue them. Carrion feeder can't block and doesn't really start applying pressure until you have sacrificed 3+ creatures which won't happen early so it doesn'treally help your clock. It is fine as a Sac outlet for the cat but I think I would prefer munitions for more interaction as a Sac outlet.
I run a list like this but with gates to buff the rat so it doesn´t die, to make treasures as to have stored mana and artifacts for kc-shaman and to buff the ambusher for lifegain.
I love Cat-cow
@vicxinthehouse I feel like the deck is slow enough as is that I don't know if I would be able to handle the gate manabase. I know it helps close out the game quicker but I'm concerned you would get to the late game for that to matter.
Is not possible a bw food deck with tortex ?
snackers can be good in this deck ?
We are already running 4 cards we can't play (cow). I wouldn't want anymore, would have too many non-functional hands.
hell yeah i love me some of this
I love tortex and was wondering if you ever planned shenanigans with Grave Scrabbler.
I think the deck absolutely needs at least 1, the card puts Mulldrifter to shame with how much card advantage it generates.
I feel like Sanitarium Skeleton is just better most of the time. The problem with Grave Scrabbler is that it needs to die to be able to keep gaining you cards. It also blocks early which is handy.
@@Kirblinxy I think that when your deck already has an aggressive slant, it is not hard to convince an opponent to kill it, either because it helps them not die to your other 2/2s or because they need to kill you before you accrue too much value.
Though it has been almost 5 years since I last resolved the card in a league.
Fuck yes
Deck: goblin token pauper
Main:
4 Goblin Grenade
4 Hordeling Outburst
4 Impact Tremors
4 Mogg War Marshal
4 Dragon Fodder
4 Goblin Gathering
20 Snow-Covered Mountain
4 Krenko's Command
4 Goblin Instigator
4 Raid Bombardment
4 Goblin War Strike
I miss grave scrabble 😢😢
He is just another victim of power creep 😞
Why did you keep taking actions in opponents 2nd main instead of end step in g1? Definitely cost you the game
I don't even have a stop in opponents main 2. I think it was always in response to a Refurb, so I had to try and get my value before my cards were discarded. Would love to get a timestamp if you could point to where I was doing this.
Round 1 is a waste of time.