Yeah I don’t know about that now. There’s more intelligent people out there speaking their mind but the overall majority of people are fucking stupid and ignorant
The United States is like a real life dystopian society. It's weird to see as an outsider and it used to be entertaining. Now it's just getting scary to be honest. Wish you all the best.
TheMusicGuard thank you. Being gaslighted daily really does make reality in America a fleeting concept. Very bizzare time to live in American and be a free thinker
Aqualistic I think you misinterpreted what he said. I think it was a general statement about the current situation the USA is in and the direction it is going right now. Not just about those conspiracy theorists. I mean hell, the US-president itself spurts out conspiracy theories. Sure, there are quite alot of good people in the US, but there are so many horrible people and so much is going wrong. It's quite sad and I hope the USA as a nation will finally get to its senses after/while Trump. Although I got little hope for that.
Every country on this planet has a certain percentage of the population that is bat shit crazy. We are a country of 300 million people and you are judging us on the .0000001% that are the loudest, craziest, and unfortunately get the most attention from media. I would never assume anything about a western country if I saw a video online of someone insane from there. All conspiracy theorists are riding a thin line. They are sane enough to have a job and pay the bill, but they are still bat shit crazy. The UK is the size of Minnesota, but its population is extremely dense compared and most people live in suburban type areas heavily populated. WE have 50 states and the UK is only the size of a mid size state. We have a very large rural population in the states they still grow up in a rural area. We grow up respecting and owning guns for hunting. At the age of 5 my father started teaching me safety for firearms and how to clean and maintain them. He then started taking me with him when he went hunting to let me observe how to carry the firearm safely, how to climb and bring it up safely after, and then finally several months of actually how to fire the gun safely and where to point and not point. I respect everyone's right to do what they want, be with who them want and not have to worry about things in their life changing because of the views and beliefs of others. Live and let live. I personally do not care much about or own a pistol or tactical style semi auto weapons. I do think people have the right to own them though. I own a semi auto hunting rifle that will shoot just as fast as the kind in the news people want to ban. I think most people that are not gun owners do not even know this. This is why we laugh at gun laws aimed at those types of weapons. There would still be semi auto rifles the only difference would be they have a wood stock and do not look like a military weapon. Gun laws would only affect people who follow the law. This is the reason why people get so mad that own guns. Mentally ill people and psychopaths do not follow the law. Even if you banned guns outright and magically collected them all it would not change anything, but the weapon used to do mass killings. They would get in a truck and run a crowd down, build a bomb, use a knife, or any other way they could to kill someone. I used to be a lefty and somewhat lib in the Bush years, but I never understood their take on guns. That is until I finally had so many tell me their true feelings. They know gun laws will not stop mass killing. At least most of them do. Their goal is to get the ball rolling to get more and more gun laws until they are completely banned. They hate the right and they can not stand gun owners and gun culture. Also, they want to demoralize gun owners because Trump was elected now. You can not tell half the country they are going to be treated like children and have their rights taken away because of things that can not be controlled. We should be crying for better mental health care. It is none existent in our country now and every mass shooter has shown countless red flags for years before they killed anyone. The majority of the time the police were notified the person was unstable and nothing was done. IN Florida the cops were called in the kid over 40 times and he told everyone what he was going to do. Elliott Rodgers made video after video showing he was very sick and wanted to kill people. The police went to his house after being told he was dangerous and talked to him for a few mins and then left. The best example of our none existent health care system is Charlie Zelenoff. He was hundreds of videos on him on UA-cam right now. He is mentally unstable and attacks people in gyms everyday. This person should be in a mental home or watched 24/7 because he could become a mass shooter. Instead he is ignored and laughed at as just some weird guy. Chicago is a very strict gun area and because of the criminals know the people that follow the law mostly don't have guns because this makes this city one of the worst. THey kill as many people or more in one year compared to every mass shooter ever in the history of our country there. If that isn't a giant red flag I dunno what is. Using kids as a token to get gun laws is very low too.
John Tate read the first 2 sentences. Agreed. Didn't read the rest though. That's what gets ratings on TV and makes the most money. That's capitalism for you.
@@Proxy817 why are u telling us on here then? Get off the net and get outside for a few weeks and get some sun and get some exercise. Get out of the forums youre on and turn all your social media accounts off for a while. Do yourself a favor.... in fact do us all a favor and just listen to me. I've just issued you with the best advice you'll ever get.
My sister in law believes in this conspiracy theory, which just blows my mind. If the US had stricter gun laws perhaps mass shootings wouldn’t happen as frequently.
Writer Jesse Walker actually came up with list of five different types of conspiracy theories and their rationales, its pretty interesting ua-cam.com/video/3s7wjy5Z99w/v-deo.html
@@HeadFunny THIS IS NOT A LINK TO WHAT YOU HINT IT'S A LINK TO. It's like rickrolling but for your own profit, and I don't like being tricked, so I DID NOT WATCH YOUR VIDEO.
These people couldn't make it through really basic public education. They don't have the tools for self-reflection and logic, they literally just repeat the things they read on troll sites and echo chambers. They use projection constantly to hide behind their insecurities about their mental deficiencies and loser lifestyle. They don't want to listen to reason or truth, they want to live in a delusional fantasyland becasue it's the only place they feel some control over. There is no helping these people other than removing them from society (no job, no federal security/assistance, no friends, no family). If you know anyone like this, cut them out of your life permanently.
Maybe you're just trying to dodge the fact that they're dying because you won't put security guards in the schools but will security guard cocaine dens AKA clubs.
@@FuzzyWalrus123 Are you really going to show your daughter's death certificate and a lot of sensitive data to a megalomaniac who stalks you and is clearly out of his mind?
Mr. & Mrs Smith Purely by chance, I happened to be at the Twin Towers site late at night/early in the morning before the 9/11 attacks. All of the activity that would have been necessitated by the conspiracy theory scenarios was simply not there. It was absolutely silent, dark, peaceful...and totally, utterly deserted. No workmen, no vans, no nothing. The only reason I can think of for why anyone would or could claim that there must have been workers there preparing, is that it usually WAS so deserted there at night that there’s only a very few people who can truthfully say what they saw, and any possible security footage proving that I or anyone else was there was destroyed along with everything else. But maybe the most striking thing for me is the cruelty. Even if I were 97% sure that some horrific tragedy was a hoax, the mere knowledge that there was still even a 3% chance that my “speaking the truth” would mean I was deliberately causing such cruel anguish and agony to victims and survivors...I don’t think I could go through with it. Heck, even if the ratio was 99%:1%, I would still shy away. (Not to mention, of course, that if I DID ever find myself absolutely convinced that I was seeing “evidence” of some unspeakably huge, expensive, nefarious, insidious, conspiracy, while the vast majority of the public and anyone who had anything to do with the subject claims I’m nuts for thinking it exists...one of my very first instincts would probably be to get myself a full psychiatric and neurological evaluation, in case I might actually be crazy! The hubris and chutzpah of one person, or a few people, with no actual connection to an event or subject matter, insisting that only THEY have the smarts and ability to discern what nobody else has suspected? I can’t wrap my head around it.)
Mr. & Mrs Smith Exactly! That gets to me, as well: I mean, I like to think of myself as intelligent, reasonably perceptive and decently educated. But, in spite of (or maybe, because of) that, if I ever found myself thinking that literally every expert and scholar and professional in a given field was wrong, and I somehow managed to be the only one to see The Truth...well, then I’d probably figure that I had missed something important and go back to the drawing board or just defer to those others. For this reason, I think that “crank magnetism” (the willingness to believe multiple, complex and even contradictory conspiracy theories) almost by necessity requires a pathological level of malignant narcissism, in addition to the more obvious delusional and psychotic tendencies. I totally agree that there’s a big step between knowing a truth, or “The Truth,” and wanting to share that knowledge, whistleblower-style, with elected officials, the media, etc. in an effort to enact positive change or seek justice...and deciding that only you have been blessed with this special knowledge, which is so unimaginably important that the fate of the very world rests upon you convincing humanity that you’re right, and therefore no possible evidence could ever sway you from absolute devotion to that Truth, or even lead you to question aspects of it or reevaluate it if new evidence should appear. The former might even be noble, depending on the circumstance...but the latter is the definition of dangerously fanatical zealotry. And if history has shown us anything, it’s that zealots value their “truth” above any and everything; above kindness, compassion, common decency, and humanity. Zealots live in a narcissistic solipsism, in which all that matters is them: their truth, their beliefs, their feelings and emotions, their lives...nobody else matters to them, since in their reality we’re all just basically person-shaped cardboard cutouts, to be grouped by them into categories such as, “gullible sheeple,” “evil elites,” “sleeper agents,” “useful idiots,” “crisis actors,” “fake victims,” etc. They don’t feel any need to treat other humans humanely, because in essence they don’t see anyone else besides themselves (and sometimes other conspiracy nuts) as truly being “real.”
Eric Bowman I have no doubt whatsoever that there are conspiracy theories based in fact. But I also have no doubt that plenty of them are misinformation, disinformation and/or the products of disordered minds. The problem is telling the difference while it still matters.
@Mr. & Mrs Smith Even more impossible .. is getting criminals to start checking gun licenses and doing background checks before they will sell their illegal guns. Insanity is believing that they will.
@@Amer1can1nfidel everyone deals with grief differently, their’s no inherent telltale difference between someone who’s lost someone and someone who hasn’t. The fact that you said this shows that your concept of loss and bereavement is most likely informed more so by media portrayals, rather than real life experience.
@@thethrowawaythatstayed7055 Exactly what I was thinking. But than again, the same can be said of most people who are online these days. Almost everyone is in an echo chamber, and they only look at the evidence that reinforces their confirmation bias.
So how do you know if it's fake or not how do you know if it's true or not how do we know these days when they can put stuff on video and say anything they want and you never know you're watching some stuff that's just made up off of computers and AI
@@conspiracycorner2334Of course the Tell Lie Vision is real. Why would I search online for myself when I can be an idiot and believe everything they say
As a father of a deceased 2 year old, I hold on to my son Cooper by saying, “I can’t raise him, but I can raise his legacy.” So to hear that Facebook conspiracy theorist say that kid has no legacy, nobody cares about him, and his death was just a flash in the pan? Well, that makes me want to paint his face all over town.
Howard Ackerman It wasn't a generalization of an entire generation. It was directed towards the 'Social Age' Generation. The most prescribed 'medicine' in the USA are antidepressants. Why? Also his generalization of humanity is completely acceptable. It's completely possible that he hates all of humanity.
Daniel Dwan I have a feeling that your comment is a reflection of yourself. You try and infer that much about someone from 7 words? Who hurt you matey?
The US right now IS a South Park episode. This was actually a problem that the South Park creators had last year. How do you satirize Trump and the general state of the right? Because you really can't. They're already satire of themselves and completely and utterly ridiculous.
Stratosfear the God They're definitely libertarians. They're very on the fence about most things. To the point where both sides believed that they won from South Park episodes. Of course they don't like Trump though. Because he's an insane lying idiot.
It is true nobody cares except the family. It's a flash in the pan like he said. That happened years ago and people die everyday that's the point. I don't even matter when I die just another person dead. That's the point he's making not in a way where I am saying your kid doesn't matter just the overall bug picture.
@@YoMama9021 you are correct he's just another dead person. But he actually left behind a legacy via music so can't really compare in that respect. If I die nobody will remember me so that's just the way it goes. Don't get all in your feelings
People get citizen arrest all messed up. It's when cops really don't have evidence, but onlookers or citizens saw the crime, they would have to put them under citizens arrest for the cops to legally detain them
These people are beyond help and recovery. They’ve invested too much time and energy into these delusions. It is full-blown psychosis now, and they have a really tough road ahead of them.
Sunken cost fallacy. If they accept (out loud) that they’ve been torturing grieving parents and mocking deaf children, they have to admit they’ve been horrible and exasperated the pain and evil. It’s so much easier if they HOLD TO THEIR GUNS because at least then they’re just ignorant.
RETARDED CRISIS ACTORS ARE PUT INTO THE STORY BY DESIGN! Do you understand? There are literally dozens of unreal examples, starting with laughing Robbie Parker, of retarded crisis actors inserted into the story ON PURPOSE, so that people like me, who can actually _see_ the fraud of this world, chase it around for years and years. It’s pissed on breadcrumbs for us to chase around. Ya dig?
If my daughter was lost in something as horrible as a mass shooting and some wack job yelled at me that I’m lying I don’t think I would have the ability to not completely end that person. Props to that pastor for remaining cool, although he’s a pastor so probably would be a bigger surprise if he wasn’t cool about it.
Props yes??? And I ask if you wouldn’t you also feel and externally subconsciously express your emotions and feelings with tears or turning red, the basic reactions a human experiences. That pure lack of emotion at the very end seems so far from what I have experienced in the trauma I have endured….military trauma doesn’t even begin to look like this so what is going on with these people?
"I don't think I would have the ability to not completely end that person." I understand where you're coming from. ironically, that's the same mindset that drives shootings... unchecked rage at having something we can't live without taken away (self respect, peace - not being bullied daily at school and behind closed doors at home, the ability to shine vs being a doormat the loser you're expected to be...or a daughter). ❤️🩹 🫂
And then when someone offers to show them evidence, they come to a conclusion as to why it’s fabricated. They’re all delusional grasping for a need to feel important and this is the only thing they have. The ability to be absolute trash.
Guy saying his conspiracy thoughts are obsessive, and take away his ability to be a good parent -- he is so close to the point and juuuuust can't see it
He's not smart enough to realize that he has a choice.....he's not a hero and serves no good earthly purpose. Choosing to neglect his family for this insane "cause" is really missing the mark.
Yeah right!!! Lol. You cant get more of an unrealistic situation than that. They are incredibly unrealistic. Problem you have is a lot of disinformation idiots called "truthers" like that granny twit to discredit the truth with silly junk. The only emotion you will ever see from people are from the ones who weren't there.
Yes he has so much self control, I don't think I'd be able to stay calm if I was him in that situation. Families and victims must be protected from these people. They have to live with grief every day, and now have to deal with this too, just awful
Or he can't be righteously indignant because he knows the guy is right and he is a traitor. Think the other way too. Now the truthers approach needs some fine tuning I will admit that.
Ohhh... you're so SPOT ON. I was watching and thinking whom does this man reminds me of... And here's my answer. Maybe all of us, should let the internet a little behind.. it's beginning to let a lot of crazy people to be fixed on even more crazy things.
Imagine losing your son or a relative in one of these attacks, just to have someone come up and tell you that you are lying and making it all up. That must be distressing as hell.
Tobberz imagine being brainwashed to the point you think your child is dead af, but really it isn’t even your child. It’s really not hard to put something like this on. And honestly I don’t believe this shit one bit.
How can that horrible woman stand there and deface a banner that was put there to proclaim love and support, and her husband stand there cussing out a victim that lost his own daughter and half his congregation and call him vile names? 💔😢 Those people are not human! At least that awful facebook page one of the other cruel monsters was bragging about has been removed. How do those kind of monsters live with themselves?
“So you’re saying my daughter was never even born??” That’s the most painful part. The feeling that they aren’t just saying that the tragedy didn’t happen, they’re saying that little baby’s life was never real. The baby’s parents memories aren’t real. That’s so fucking wrong
I wrote a paper on this for university but my hypothesis was that oftentimes when faced with unexpected tragedy, some people will either deny it ever happened or seek out conspiracy as a way to cope & find answers. Like September 11th & whatnot.
Socrates said a good man can never be harmed because goodness is reward in and of itself, and a bad man is always being harmed because evil is it’s own punishment. I think this pastor understands that.
Gerg C Yeah, that pastor is just WOW, he's so collected and calm and even trying to speak normally with him. I think I'm a rather calm person. But if someone told me a loved family member didn't die and I was lying about them ever having existed and all the rest this guy said... I don't think I could keep myself from completely losing my shit. Meanwhile this grieving father isn't even shaking and just fidgeting with his hands a bit. I would be either shaking like crazy trying to not attack him or would have completely snapped.
That's what I was thinking. These people can't handle the reality of such heinous atrocities, so they create these delusional beliefs as a coping mechanism. Unfortunately, their insane way of coping causes more suffering to the victim's families.
Clearly a hoax.No proof of bullet holes.The leftist didn't have an answer. ?? Funny they made a bullet hole in his house. Just one. ?? But no holes in the church, 🤔🤔🤔🤔 No bodies,no death certs.And let's not forget David Hogshit. The worst crisis actor ever.I don't care for Alex Jones,but I'm always reminded on Dragnet, "Just the facts please" 🥺😉
Oddly enough, Tony was my first sponsor when I entered the AA rooms in Fort Lauderdale when I first tried to get sober a couple of years ago. Wild to see him in this. I learned a lot from him, namely what a good sponsor is supposed to be, which is why he wasn't mine for very long. Guy is shady.
Update for anyone watching now: Wolfgang Halbig, 73, was arrested Monday on a charge that he was in unlawful possession of another person’s identification, according to the Lake County Sheriff's Office. He was calling and harassing families all night and in person.
Was he holding a friends Id??? 73 EL . The guy and mother arrested , fir trespassing but if you listen they and the pastor were to meet. so how is it trespassing
"2 suspects have been arrested, 1 suspect has been arrested. There was 1 suspect that took his own life, forget about the video footage that was taken of us arresting the suspect and walking him out of the woods" THATS why everyone thinks it's a hoax because it is. Kids might've lost their lives but it wasn't the kid they said it was. It was the US government hired shooters. If it even happened in the first place
Imagine your son is killed. And then this guy comes over to you and calls you a liar and says your son never existed. I could not stay cool. He would have a problem. Physical.
@coy kehoe Imagine a guy that calls himself coy kehoe and starts ranting on school shootings , gun control issues and doritos while he is answering on a comment made about a total different subject. Imagine the meds he should be taken....
@coy kehoe I do not think in terms of political phrases. People that do that are trapped in their thinking process. Its a bit like liking your own comment after you pressed that enter button. Sounds familiar coy?
@coy kehoe Still stuck i see..... I will explain why your thinking is off...not that you might listen but well....perhaps you will surprise me. And its a very easy sentence and explanation to make. Here it is....Lets make it two sentences... You choose an narcissistic man born with a golden spoon up his arse as your hero president because the old politics has been a huge disappointment for you. That is how idiots and dangerous people get to power.
@coy kehoe As i thought. You resort to insult. The easy way out is it not? I understand how your mind works. That at itself is an insult you will not understand. Have a nice life.
I like how they pointed out the guy doing an interview was wearing an earpiece, it’s like… yeah how else are they supposed to hear the person who’s in a studio in New York questioning them? Do you think there’s some magical thing in front of the camera that lets them hear and see the interviewer?
So they sent him the ear piece in the mail and the camera and microphone so they could interview him outside, i see that makes sense ... seriously if your going to track him down outside why can't the interviewer just ask him questions.
I know. Absolutely terrible. I care, I always have. Thank the lord that page got taken down and I’m not sure where’s he’s at currently but I just hope he realizes how much hurt he’s causing in not only others lives- but his as well.
The blacked out guy mentioned 25 percent of people are easily convinced of things especially if its told to them by someone they respect. I think that number is much higher because people blindly follow all sorts of crap especially if they hear it on the news or if it makes them fit in or feel accepted.
In reference to 8:15, you don’t attempt to “confirm what you already know to be true”. You attempt to prove your theory incorrect. The goal should be to disprove your theory.
If that's the worst you've seen, then you probably haven't watched the Liberian cannibal warlord documentary for Vice. Now that's fucked up. If you get a chance you should really go watch it, it's amazing!
i feel you man, we can relate on another level. also that's why i think this hits so much maybe even more than the warlords. like this shit could happen to us. But i aint going to Liberia be sure.
A respectable man of God does not use violence to prove a point. He didn't need to get belligerent because it's obvious that he knows the truth of what happened. Versus the maniac who screaming and threatening and harassing said Pastor. We know who the real liar is. Like a little kid being called out on their bullshit, he gets angry and starts screaming & throwing a tantrum fit.
@fast cash well said man couldn't have said it better myself. If someone killed my daughter and then accused me of lying about it for money. He wouldn't have walked away bc I would've shot him.
I'm a very open minded person who loves to question things. I'm sure there are conspiracy theories that have some truth to them but now days some people seem to go overboard. Like to them almost everything is a conspiracy. Facts no longer matter. Its about believing what they WANT to believe.
That's the power of the internet, people who think these things would never be able to reach each other if the internet didn't exist. And these ideas wouldn't be spread.
I don't trust anyone who feels they need to say "I don't question my morality" "I'm a good person" in a situation like this. It's often sociopaths such as these specific hoaxers see themselves as the good guys despite all logic
Free speech is free speech... these conspiracy people are clowns and clearly wrong, but speech and opinions are still allowed even when they are wrong. Too many fools are quick to suddenly not be ok with free speech when the other person is wrong or they don't agree with their opinions. If you feel you are being harassed get a restraining order... it is pretty simple then if they contnue they will be reprimanded. The thing is tho you have to have proof of harassment to get a restraining order. However these idiots should be able to have whatever opinion no matter how idiotic they want and shout it from the rooftops if they want... just makes it easier to spot and avoid them. There is a reason that freedom of speech and Press was the very first amendment.
@@krismitchell5496 thank you so much for your help I'm sure this guy just doesn't know how to spell and it's not that he misspelled it because he's typing on a cell phone you are doing the world a great service keep up the amazing work
It brings me so much solace to hear that man come to the realization that he has wasted so much of his life for an argument that he has been trying to disprove and all he has to show for it are weak, false narratives that clearly are proven wrong just by looking at footage of the shooting news coverage. I do feel sorry for his kid that he probably ignores on a regular bases.
How that guy didn't instantly throw hands when he told him you have no proof your daughter died I have no idea that's more self control than I would have had.
While I don’t believe in the “crisis actor” stuff… It’s crazy to me that people wouldn’t think the government would do terrible things in the name of their agenda.
The whole issue with the theory that this is all to take away guns is that the government has nuclear weapons, tanks, giant bombs. The idea that a gun, even an AR-15, can fight government tyranny is ridiculous.
@@annawalsh1904 Government has only one purpose. To control. Sometimes they kill, other times they enslave. Either way has always bordered on inevitability.
In the 1990s I thought the internet would bring the world together and usher in a new era of human consciousness. It is just one of the many things I have been wrong about in my life. I also thought a reality show con man would never be president. Wrong again.
Yeah me too , social media is destroying community cohesion like never before , everybody hates everybody else & the mentally ill have a place where they can get together in herds & swap bullcrap . Never known a poison chalice quite like it really . My elderly parents are literally aghast at what's happening & what people are choosing to believe .
Yep me to. I though the internet and social media would bring society together. Sharing of cultures, ideas, and thoughts....but nope. Its a cesspool of hatred and bile. The internet comes with to much responsibility for a species like us.
"We go to everyone in Texas just to confirm what we already know to be true and then there is no doubt about it when we get there" *RIP critical thinking*
They cherrypick facts and ignore other facts while asking "why didn't this happen" or "why weren't the cops blah blah blah" in order to further their narrative. They don't absorb information and subsequently form their opinions.....they start with their own conclusions. Pathetic.
Trevor Reynafarje -that man may have been an actor placed to deliberately portray truthers as nuts (like how controlled opposition Alex Jones acts outrageous seemingly on purpose). God forbid a truther comes across as calm, reasonable, logical, and fair. The MSM would hate that. So they always go out of their way to clown the conspiracy researcher archetype so the general public is programmed to automatically not take such people seriously. If you're not onto the mind games the media and government play on us, that means you're inadvertently letting them manipulate your thoughts.
18:22 when they approached the church to write on the sign he tells his wife “tone it down this time” within seconds he gets into a heated match with the pastor himself. Lmao
ROBERT USSERY (nutjob #1) likes to exert what little control/power on JODI MANN (nutjob #2). They want to hide behind their moniker so it's important their real names are public.
"I have the right to perform a citizens arrest on any cop that touches me!" What in the hell is this guy smoking that he thinks that he can arrest cops?
@@YourLittleDeath I never said that cops can't be arrested, I'm just expressing audacity that this random dude thinks that he can peform a "citizen's arrest" on a cop. You clearly didn't get that though....
@@Brando56894 What this clown thinks or says he can do is arrest a cop pre-emptively if he thinks they've about to arrest or detain him or arrest them back as a retaliatory measure if they have. Anyone can arrest anyone. They just want to be sure of what they're doing because they could open themselves up to a whole lot of litigation. Someone can arrest a cop if they see them doing something wrong; the cop being off-duty would be the most typical scenario where that would happen. On-duty could invite a whole lot of trouble. Better in that situation to try and record what the cop is doing and forward the footage it to the appropriate agency.
Im a current victim of the same types of people everyday. I turned them in to the police department over 10 times in my apartment building. They still to this day almost 3 years later follow me i recognize them and they speak through a system and absolutely use their small children to try to make me believe those children were being raped. They tell everyone i have a guilty conscience and i am tortured in my sleep and àll day long physically and mentally. My first memory of them speaking to me and changing the situations around me was 4 years old. They say they wont give up. Please pray for my family and my animals as i witness them torture and speak to them in their sleep. I know my dog hears them as well because he barks and looks around at the same screams when i try to ignore them.
Great story. I’ve interviewed a lot of hoaxers and conspiracy theorists over the years. They mostly all fit the same psychological profile; almost always male, in their 50s and 60s, reasonably intelligent, working in jobs where they don’t achieve the recognition that they believe is their right. They latch on to these ideas because it brings them attention and notoriety.
Peter Rees I'm a native American woman and you should watch the government look up Bad booze the government poison alcohol during proabition. Mk ultra, Dali lama was payed by the USA... Gulf of Tonkin... big Tabacoo new about cancer beforehand... Bohemian Grove...most important Operation Northwoods
Peter Rees I’m a female in my 30s and I don’t believe Sandy Hook or Parkland’s official story. The couple arrested in this video do not represent me or most of the people who doubt these stories.
While this is solid advice for everyone, I do have to say that one has to be drinking something a tad stronger than bong water to get to this level of crazy. So don't drink the bong water, but also don't eat the tide pods, don't snort glass and don't inject anti-freeze or smoke industrial waste.
Yup just like that lizard neck lady that lied on emmitt till but we got real proof of that.. but no one cares .. where's the outrage that demon live a long prosperous Life after she lied and got a kid killed! But carry on this is so sad🙃
My god these poor parents. To lose their children and then be harassed and treated like crap. And to call that child who DIED a flash in the pan?! And essentially say he didn’t matter is sick. I sometimes I hope there is a hell for sick freaks like that.
Conspiracy theorists believe in television fantasies than in the truth. It's true because they watch ultra violent video games, and horror films in order for them to escape from reality. They are the real reasons why there are more murderers back on the streets and more innocent people wasting their entire lives in prison. This is the most important reason why. The other reason is that conspiracy theorists support white supremacist groups such as the KKK, as well as other violent hate groups that are into committing extremely violent crimes ranging from rape and murder, and these are hate crimes against humanity, which is against the law. The conspiracy theorists who believe that Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Aurora, Orlando, etc. were fake and a hoax, are largely criminals who deserve to be charged with hate crimes against humanity, and need to be in prison for at least 5 to 10 years. Whenever they pick a fight with me, I tell them that I am a law abiding citizen who doesn't take the actions of these criminals likely because these conspiracy theorists are breaking the law, and they need to be punished accordingly. But, if you commit murder, you could automatically get at least 25 years without parole! So that is all that I will tell you about these pathetic criminals because they do need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
The conspiracy theorist you hear @ 5:50, had a gun in his hand, and threatened to kill that woman whose loved one was dead! He deserves a long prison sentence of 25 years without parole!
there are so many shills that try to discredit us people who prove time and time again about askenazi elite plots. Ive had many channels shut down and paid shills go after me.
@@highcaliberexclusive9890 background checks aren't "disarming America". There have been ZERO steps taken to stop these mass shootings. It's still just as easy for people to get an entire arsonal of weapons to terrorize their communities with. Children are still being gunned down at school. There's still a good chance you will be shot while shopping for groceries, at the movie theater, watching a sporting event, or enjoying yourself at a festival or concert. Nothing has been done to "disarm America", but disarming America is the only solution to this uniquely American problem. We all should hope that it happens before one of our loved ones is senselessly murdered.
Will never happen to me or my loved ones! I will shoot back and not cower. That's the difference between me and you sheep. I'm a shepherd protector with my own firearms.
If I were a parent of a Stoneman Douglas victim, I think you'd have a hard time convincing me that it's not OK to do 20 to 30 years for blowing the face off of one of these hoaxers who claimed my child did not die.
As someone who has spent a lot of time learning about conspiracy theorists, silence may seem like it fuels them, talking to them fuels them more. NEVER talk to conspiracy theorists.
the thing with conspiracies is that no matter how much overwhelming evidence you show against them, they will find a way to deny it. it's never worth debating a conspiracy theorist.
Like a forever trumper , doesn’t matter what he does , they’ll never consider he’s a bad person or a criminal. The phone call to the Georgia governor asking him to find 11,780 more votes ? They just describe it in it most basic for and say “ so it’s illegal to make a phone call now ?”. When any sane thinking person knows it’s not the phone call itself, but the content of the call that shows election manipulation/ fraud. Stormy Daniels ? “ so it’s illegal to pay someone some money after you’ve spent an afternoon with them ?” It’s hilarious 😂
MsLaceAndLeather these nuts aren't gonna be proven wrong. They'll move the goalposts and claim the conspiracy involves polygraphs and demand more proof. Do you really think this guy will accept the results and finally admit that a mass murder took place? Fuck no.
Here's what WILL happen : 'Thorn in the side of sanity' is going to approach a survivor or victim's family, and they will understandably take great offense to being told their loss is false... And Thorny will then be part of one shooting conspiracy that will immediately be disproved : His own.
The man saying he doesn’t question his morality, and then he says how good he is to people…. He calls harassing people who have suffered a horrible tragedy being “ good to people”.
He was later arrested on felony gun charges for possession of a firearm as a convicted felon. According to a local news article, his girlfriend was committed on the grounds that she “suffered from issues that affect her understanding of reality.”
@@SnortDust Why am I not surprised he had guns as a convicted felon? People who say these conspiracy-nuts 'can't handle reality' give them too much credit. They're just _selfishly obsessed with their guns_ and fear tighter gun-legislation. That's why they attack the dead kid's families, they've got a political agenda...
"2 suspects have been arrested, 1 suspect has been arrested. There was 1 suspect that took his own life, forget about the video footage that was taken of us arresting the suspect and walking him out of the woods" THATS why everyone thinks it's a hoax because it is. Kids might've lost their lives but it wasn't the kid they said it was. It was the US government hired shooters. If it even happened in the first place
not just older people. Reddit and twitter are exactly that. A bubble where all the information that resonates with the users get promoted and pushed without space for competing ideas.
Saying "I don't wanna be another number" repetitively during a school school does seem like a weird thing to say. More than likely it rly happened but to me that girl was hamming up that talking point for the camera.
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence. --
Charles Bukowski
Yeah I don’t know about that now. There’s more intelligent people out there speaking their mind but the overall majority of people are fucking stupid and ignorant
George Carlin said it best
Think of how stupid the average person is,and realise half of them are stupider than that
posting this quote on fb right now, work
Another problem is how Common Sense is FAR from common nowadays.
@@johndoa4839 haha
That pastor's ability to not destroy that man is the most incredible restraint I've ever seen
As soon as he sed where is she about the dead girl I would have went to jail my heart bleeds for these families my kids Are my life
Well if he's telling the truth, he knows he's sick.
A true man of god.
facts yo ....insane
@@slowanddeliberate6893 You must have extremely poor critical thinking skills
The United States is like a real life dystopian society. It's weird to see as an outsider and it used to be entertaining. Now it's just getting scary to be honest. Wish you all the best.
TheMusicGuard thank you. Being gaslighted daily really does make reality in America a fleeting concept. Very bizzare time to live in American and be a free thinker
Its not the country thats bad. Please do not let a handful of people out of 330 million people in the USA ruin your image of the great country
Aqualistic I think you misinterpreted what he said. I think it was a general statement about the current situation the USA is in and the direction it is going right now. Not just about those conspiracy theorists. I mean hell, the US-president itself spurts out conspiracy theories. Sure, there are quite alot of good people in the US, but there are so many horrible people and so much is going wrong. It's quite sad and I hope the USA as a nation will finally get to its senses after/while Trump. Although I got little hope for that.
Every country on this planet has a certain percentage of the population that is bat shit crazy. We are a country of 300 million people and you are judging us on the .0000001% that are the loudest, craziest, and unfortunately get the most attention from media. I would never assume anything about a western country if I saw a video online of someone insane from there. All conspiracy theorists are riding a thin line. They are sane enough to have a job and pay the bill, but they are still bat shit crazy. The UK is the size of Minnesota, but its population is extremely dense compared and most people live in suburban type areas heavily populated. WE have 50 states and the UK is only the size of a mid size state. We have a very large rural population in the states they still grow up in a rural area. We grow up respecting and owning guns for hunting. At the age of 5 my father started teaching me safety for firearms and how to clean and maintain them. He then started taking me with him when he went hunting to let me observe how to carry the firearm safely, how to climb and bring it up safely after, and then finally several months of actually how to fire the gun safely and where to point and not point. I respect everyone's right to do what they want, be with who them want and not have to worry about things in their life changing because of the views and beliefs of others. Live and let live. I personally do not care much about or own a pistol or tactical style semi auto weapons. I do think people have the right to own them though. I own a semi auto hunting rifle that will shoot just as fast as the kind in the news people want to ban. I think most people that are not gun owners do not even know this. This is why we laugh at gun laws aimed at those types of weapons. There would still be semi auto rifles the only difference would be they have a wood stock and do not look like a military weapon. Gun laws would only affect people who follow the law. This is the reason why people get so mad that own guns. Mentally ill people and psychopaths do not follow the law. Even if you banned guns outright and magically collected them all it would not change anything, but the weapon used to do mass killings. They would get in a truck and run a crowd down, build a bomb, use a knife, or any other way they could to kill someone. I used to be a lefty and somewhat lib in the Bush years, but I never understood their take on guns. That is until I finally had so many tell me their true feelings. They know gun laws will not stop mass killing. At least most of them do. Their goal is to get the ball rolling to get more and more gun laws until they are completely banned. They hate the right and they can not stand gun owners and gun culture. Also, they want to demoralize gun owners because Trump was elected now. You can not tell half the country they are going to be treated like children and have their rights taken away because of things that can not be controlled. We should be crying for better mental health care. It is none existent in our country now and every mass shooter has shown countless red flags for years before they killed anyone. The majority of the time the police were notified the person was unstable and nothing was done. IN Florida the cops were called in the kid over 40 times and he told everyone what he was going to do. Elliott Rodgers made video after video showing he was very sick and wanted to kill people. The police went to his house after being told he was dangerous and talked to him for a few mins and then left. The best example of our none existent health care system is Charlie Zelenoff. He was hundreds of videos on him on UA-cam right now. He is mentally unstable and attacks people in gyms everyday. This person should be in a mental home or watched 24/7 because he could become a mass shooter. Instead he is ignored and laughed at as just some weird guy. Chicago is a very strict gun area and because of the criminals know the people that follow the law mostly don't have guns because this makes this city one of the worst. THey kill as many people or more in one year compared to every mass shooter ever in the history of our country there. If that isn't a giant red flag I dunno what is. Using kids as a token to get gun laws is very low too.
John Tate read the first 2 sentences. Agreed. Didn't read the rest though. That's what gets ratings on TV and makes the most money. That's capitalism for you.
"His [dead] child has no legacy. Nobody cares about this kid!"
Also him: "I'm a good person."
If he was good he wouldn't be a conspiracy theorists. Conspiracy theorists are the lowest form of life, all they do is ruin people's lives
@@darthveatayI’m a conspiracy theorist but at least I keep it to myself
@@Proxy817 why are u telling us on here then? Get off the net and get outside for a few weeks and get some sun and get some exercise. Get out of the forums youre on and turn all your social media accounts off for a while. Do yourself a favor.... in fact do us all a favor and just listen to me. I've just issued you with the best advice you'll ever get.
@@darthveatay wallah 🤦♂
@@Proxy817why? Because you just like to purposely believe the opposite of what the mainstream media says despite the actual facts.
Wow. If my son died and this guy came up to me... I’d be in jail for a long long long time, and I’d never apologize.
@@tiffanyclark-grove1989 where do you creatures live so I know to never go there?
@@tiffanyclark-grove1989 ‘iN yOUr SiMplE WhItEbrEAd COnsTrUcT” Jesus you guys are so unoriginal 🙄
My sister in law believes in this conspiracy theory, which just blows my mind. If the US had stricter gun laws perhaps mass shootings wouldn’t happen as frequently.
Seriously! Makes my stomach crawl!
Yea they are actors get over it
"I don't question my morality" is the literal definition of an amoral person.
Hoax
@@Kat.Evangeline14 Not a hoax
@@1994Godsman You lie
@@sarahkanto1883 No, I don't
@@1994Godsman We don't believe you and could care less anymore. This is nothing but gun grabbing attempts from commies,socialists and fascists
Some people just aren't happy until they've made everybody miserable.
Writer Jesse Walker actually came up with list of five different types of conspiracy theories and their rationales, its pretty interesting ua-cam.com/video/3s7wjy5Z99w/v-deo.html
I believe it's part of why there's the saying "misery loves company"
@@HeadFunny appreciate the info, but this probably isn’t the place to be posting links to your “comedy” videos
When I was locked up we had a saying that misery loves company...
@@HeadFunny THIS IS NOT A LINK TO WHAT YOU HINT IT'S A LINK TO. It's like rickrolling but for your own profit, and I don't like being tricked, so I DID NOT WATCH YOUR VIDEO.
The conundrum is they will say “they will try to make us look crazy” then proceed to act completely crazy
They then ignore the basics of grounding concepts in reality.
Which is delusional behavior.
The problem is when you give them more attention they never go away
Well I think even democrats and republicans can both agree that David Hogg is a pathological liar.
17:28 "I don't question myself" Yeah my dude that's the problem. Questioning yourself is vital for rational thinking.
Beat comment thank you
These people couldn't make it through really basic public education. They don't have the tools for self-reflection and logic, they literally just repeat the things they read on troll sites and echo chambers. They use projection constantly to hide behind their insecurities about their mental deficiencies and loser lifestyle. They don't want to listen to reason or truth, they want to live in a delusional fantasyland becasue it's the only place they feel some control over.
There is no helping these people other than removing them from society (no job, no federal security/assistance, no friends, no family). If you know anyone like this, cut them out of your life permanently.
I do one bad thing in a video game and I feel like a monster. How difficult is it to just think?
Maybe you're just trying to dodge the fact that they're dying because you won't put security guards in the schools but will security guard cocaine dens AKA clubs.
@@jennifersuzannebk5149 Uvalde
I cannot believe this dude can stand in front of a father who's daughter is dead and tell him he's lying. So sickening
Why should he believe him?
@@FuzzyWalrus123 why would he like about something like that?
Yeah well that guy did nothing. Says alot.
@@ariandyluna3835 why do people lie about anything? Because they want to. So can you answer the question or not?
@@FuzzyWalrus123 Are you really going to show your daughter's death certificate and a lot of sensitive data to a megalomaniac who stalks you and is clearly out of his mind?
There's a difference between being a reasonable skeptic and being an offensive menace.
Bingo! Same difference between having an open mind...and having such an open mind that your brain falls out and gets lost.
Mr. & Mrs Smith Purely by chance, I happened to be at the Twin Towers site late at night/early in the morning before the 9/11 attacks. All of the activity that would have been necessitated by the conspiracy theory scenarios was simply not there. It was absolutely silent, dark, peaceful...and totally, utterly deserted. No workmen, no vans, no nothing.
The only reason I can think of for why anyone would or could claim that there must have been workers there preparing, is that it usually WAS so deserted there at night that there’s only a very few people who can truthfully say what they saw, and any possible security footage proving that I or anyone else was there was destroyed along with everything else.
But maybe the most striking thing for me is the cruelty. Even if I were 97% sure that some horrific tragedy was a hoax, the mere knowledge that there was still even a 3% chance that my “speaking the truth” would mean I was deliberately causing such cruel anguish and agony to victims and survivors...I don’t think I could go through with it. Heck, even if the ratio was 99%:1%, I would still shy away. (Not to mention, of course, that if I DID ever find myself absolutely convinced that I was seeing “evidence” of some unspeakably huge, expensive, nefarious, insidious, conspiracy, while the vast majority of the public and anyone who had anything to do with the subject claims I’m nuts for thinking it exists...one of my very first instincts would probably be to get myself a full psychiatric and neurological evaluation, in case I might actually be crazy! The hubris and chutzpah of one person, or a few people, with no actual connection to an event or subject matter, insisting that only THEY have the smarts and ability to discern what nobody else has suspected? I can’t wrap my head around it.)
Mr. & Mrs Smith Exactly! That gets to me, as well: I mean, I like to think of myself as intelligent, reasonably perceptive and decently educated. But, in spite of (or maybe, because of) that, if I ever found myself thinking that literally every expert and scholar and professional in a given field was wrong, and I somehow managed to be the only one to see The Truth...well, then I’d probably figure that I had missed something important and go back to the drawing board or just defer to those others. For this reason, I think that “crank magnetism” (the willingness to believe multiple, complex and even contradictory conspiracy theories) almost by necessity requires a pathological level of malignant narcissism, in addition to the more obvious delusional and psychotic tendencies.
I totally agree that there’s a big step between knowing a truth, or “The Truth,” and wanting to share that knowledge, whistleblower-style, with elected officials, the media, etc. in an effort to enact positive change or seek justice...and deciding that only you have been blessed with this special knowledge, which is so unimaginably important that the fate of the very world rests upon you convincing humanity that you’re right, and therefore no possible evidence could ever sway you from absolute devotion to that Truth, or even lead you to question aspects of it or reevaluate it if new evidence should appear. The former might even be noble, depending on the circumstance...but the latter is the definition of dangerously fanatical zealotry. And if history has shown us anything, it’s that zealots value their “truth” above any and everything; above kindness, compassion, common decency, and humanity. Zealots live in a narcissistic solipsism, in which all that matters is them: their truth, their beliefs, their feelings and emotions, their lives...nobody else matters to them, since in their reality we’re all just basically person-shaped cardboard cutouts, to be grouped by them into categories such as, “gullible sheeple,” “evil elites,” “sleeper agents,” “useful idiots,” “crisis actors,” “fake victims,” etc. They don’t feel any need to treat other humans humanely, because in essence they don’t see anyone else besides themselves (and sometimes other conspiracy nuts) as truly being “real.”
Eric Bowman I have no doubt whatsoever that there are conspiracy theories based in fact. But I also have no doubt that plenty of them are misinformation, disinformation and/or the products of disordered minds. The problem is telling the difference while it still matters.
@Mr. & Mrs Smith Even more impossible .. is getting criminals to start checking gun licenses and doing background checks before they will sell their illegal guns. Insanity is believing that they will.
There's nothing scarier than dealing with a person that believes their own lies
Like kamala saying the border was secure for almost 4 years
The level of delusion required to spray vitriol into the face of someone who's lost a loved one is just sickening to me
Yeah
He didn't look as if he lost a kid to me ....
@@Amer1can1nfidel get out more. Speak to people. Make some friends. Exercise. Eat right.
@@Amer1can1nfidel everyone deals with grief differently, their’s no inherent telltale difference between someone who’s lost someone and someone who hasn’t. The fact that you said this shows that your concept of loss and bereavement is most likely informed more so by media portrayals, rather than real life experience.
They still refuse to take the polygraph he must be lying
"i'm in fb groups with likeminded people" okay so it's totally credible then
He may as well have said he chooses an echo chamber.
@@thethrowawaythatstayed7055
Exactly what I was thinking.
But than again, the same can be said of most people who are online these days.
Almost everyone is in an echo chamber, and they only look at the evidence that reinforces their confirmation bias.
Trans looking dude was totally credible 🤘😝🤘
Insane
Lol “fb groups groups with likeminded people” aka the woodworks that these insects come crawling out of
This is one of the most frustrating things that Ive seen in a long time.
Who has the time to cuss out a grieving parent....
just wait until you read the comments
It's infuriating to think these idiots could sink so low.
It's much more vast and deeper than that... They think trump was anointed by God and is fighting demons...
You're frustrated by this but not lockdowns or forced vaccines? The gov loves people like you
I became nauseous while watching this video and it happened almost immediately. It was so upsetting that I could not finish it.
So how do you know if it's fake or not how do you know if it's true or not how do we know these days when they can put stuff on video and say anything they want and you never know you're watching some stuff that's just made up off of computers and AI
Oh god… here’s another one^^
@@sydneyrose9185 you are too far gone. if it is on the tv it must be real , eh ?
@conspiracycorner2334 oh boy just shut the hell up.....
@@conspiracycorner2334Of course the Tell Lie Vision is real. Why would I search online for myself when I can be an idiot and believe everything they say
As a father of a deceased 2 year old, I hold on to my son Cooper by saying, “I can’t raise him, but I can raise his legacy.” So to hear that Facebook conspiracy theorist say that kid has no legacy, nobody cares about him, and his death was just a flash in the pan? Well, that makes me want to paint his face all over town.
Condolences for your loss.
So sorry Mike, as a grandparent to a 2 year that breaks my heart even thinking about it. 💔
I agree that comment was disgusting... He has abandoned his own children to harass grieving parents. 🤮
Im so sorry for your loss.
Sorry for your loss my friend 🙏🏼
"I don't question my morality. I've always been a good person." There's the problem.
It's so funny cause then he goes on to admit on neglecting his own child......
It is a good and healthy thing to stop what you are doing and seriously ask
"Are we the baddies?"
Trippy Hippy Crew facts
concordat everyone should understand that this helps people and society evolve
also very un-christian like too.
I don’t like People. I really don’t.
You're a people
Though not as extreme as his generalization of all of humanity your generation of an entire generation is also pretty dumb.
Howard Ackerman It wasn't a generalization of an entire generation. It was directed towards the 'Social Age' Generation. The most prescribed 'medicine' in the USA are antidepressants. Why?
Also his generalization of humanity is completely acceptable. It's completely possible that he hates all of humanity.
Michael Breaux If that was directed at me I can assure you I am not a leftist.
Daniel Dwan I have a feeling that your comment is a reflection of yourself. You try and infer that much about someone from 7 words? Who hurt you matey?
"Theres no evidence"
Then, they ignore all the evidence...
Literally every Turmp supporter when presented evidence of his edigment.
This is gonna be a South Park episode
The US right now IS a South Park episode. This was actually a problem that the South Park creators had last year. How do you satirize Trump and the general state of the right? Because you really can't. They're already satire of themselves and completely and utterly ridiculous.
The guy and his wife will certainly be character 😂
jackskellingtonsora Both Matt and Trey are republicans.
Ehhhhhhh i'd say libertarian
Stratosfear the God They're definitely libertarians. They're very on the fence about most things. To the point where both sides believed that they won from South Park episodes. Of course they don't like Trump though. Because he's an insane lying idiot.
“This child has no legacy” “nobody cares about this kid”. Oh I wish he would try me.
I mean it's kinda true tho if you really think about it. Not taking his side just being realistic
It is true nobody cares except the family. It's a flash in the pan like he said. That happened years ago and people die everyday that's the point. I don't even matter when I die just another person dead. That's the point he's making not in a way where I am saying your kid doesn't matter just the overall bug picture.
Ok keyboard warrior 🙄🤣
@@crybabygbc1026 and poor “cry baby”. Shouldn’t have taken so many pills. He’s just another dead person though. Oh well
@@YoMama9021 you are correct he's just another dead person. But he actually left behind a legacy via music so can't really compare in that respect. If I die nobody will remember me so that's just the way it goes. Don't get all in your feelings
You know your dealing with a gem when they say “citizens arrest”
A citizens arrest against an officer 😂
@@BlackGirlLovesAnime6 according to the enmulmaents clause in the constitution I have the right to arrest you!!
People get citizen arrest all messed up. It's when cops really don't have evidence, but onlookers or citizens saw the crime, they would have to put them under citizens arrest for the cops to legally detain them
Sovereign nonsense again.
Reminds me of an episode of Andy Griffith when Gomer tries to arrest the deputy Barney Fife. "Citizen's Arrest!" 🫠
These people are beyond help and recovery. They’ve invested too much time and energy into these delusions. It is full-blown psychosis now, and they have a really tough road ahead of them.
You don't say?
Sunken cost fallacy. If they accept (out loud) that they’ve been torturing grieving parents and mocking deaf children, they have to admit they’ve been horrible and exasperated the pain and evil. It’s so much easier if they HOLD TO THEIR GUNS because at least then they’re just ignorant.
@@mollyprysunka7741 calm down Karen
Another bot account pretending to be a real person!
@@cryptidhunter9901 who
How do we know that ALL this people in this doc aren't payed actors. I'm staring to think I'm a paid actor lol
you're fired!
@@TheHomeloanking David Hogg isn't an actor
@@1994Godsman bahahaha
RETARDED CRISIS ACTORS ARE PUT INTO THE STORY BY DESIGN!
Do you understand?
There are literally dozens of unreal examples, starting with laughing Robbie Parker, of retarded crisis actors inserted into the story ON PURPOSE, so that people like me, who can actually _see_ the fraud of this world, chase it around for years and years.
It’s pissed on breadcrumbs for us to chase around.
Ya dig?
You can tell all these people are paid actors.
If my daughter was lost in something as horrible as a mass shooting and some wack job yelled at me that I’m lying I don’t think I would have the ability to not completely end that person. Props to that pastor for remaining cool, although he’s a pastor so probably would be a bigger surprise if he wasn’t cool about it.
Props yes??? And I ask if you wouldn’t you also feel and externally subconsciously express your emotions and feelings with tears or turning red, the basic reactions a human experiences. That pure lack of emotion at the very end seems so far from what I have experienced in the trauma I have endured….military trauma doesn’t even begin to look like this so what is going on with these people?
I think it’s a sign he’s a good pastor and good person. He knows not to match his energy because then they’re both just yelling.
Exactly these people are so insensitive it’s disgusting
"I don't think I would have the ability to not completely end that person."
I understand where you're coming from. ironically, that's the same mindset that drives shootings... unchecked rage at having something we can't live without taken away (self respect, peace - not being bullied daily at school and behind closed doors at home, the ability to shine vs being a doormat the loser you're expected to be...or a daughter).
❤️🩹 🫂
@@rossmcdoogle7443 indeed?🤔
If you notice, they don’t have a single piece of evidence. Their entire stance is based on “I haven’t seen it so it must not be true.”
And then when someone offers to show them evidence, they come to a conclusion as to why it’s fabricated.
They’re all delusional grasping for a need to feel important and this is the only thing they have. The ability to be absolute trash.
Someone needs to present the evidence and then sue this dude when he refuses pay $100k. An open offer like that is legally enforceable.
@@rileybeemusic they're extremely sick people is what it is.
Where is the evidence?
Sort of like Flat Earthers!
Guy saying his conspiracy thoughts are obsessive, and take away his ability to be a good parent -- he is so close to the point and juuuuust can't see it
the point is once you see it you cannot unsee it ever again
it's not possible to walk away from the truth
He's not smart enough to realize that he has a choice.....he's not a hero and serves no good earthly purpose. Choosing to neglect his family for this insane "cause" is really missing the mark.
by these people’s logic how do you know that anything is real?
How do I know penises are real? For all we know, men could be reptilian SHAPE-SHIFTERS.......
good question
We are not witnessing the death of truth. We are witnessing the death of trust.
This comment doesn’t exist
I mean I know the whole world is a simulation but they take it to a whole other level. lol
That preacher has balls. I've never seen more self control in my life.
Maybe they're all actors!? I'm just saying. Actors or no actors, I believe the events took place, the media is another story.
Yeah right!!! Lol. You cant get more of an unrealistic situation than that. They are incredibly unrealistic. Problem you have is a lot of disinformation idiots called "truthers" like that granny twit to discredit the truth with silly junk. The only emotion you will ever see from people are from the ones who weren't there.
Balls? You have none hun!
Yes he has so much self control, I don't think I'd be able to stay calm if I was him in that situation. Families and victims must be protected from these people. They have to live with grief every day, and now have to deal with this too, just awful
Or he can't be righteously indignant because he knows the guy is right and he is a traitor. Think the other way too. Now the truthers approach needs some fine tuning I will admit that.
He is like a one man Westboro Baptist Church.
madmaniaq
I thought the same too
Ohhh... you're so SPOT ON.
I was watching and thinking whom does this man reminds me of... And here's my answer. Maybe all of us, should let the internet a little behind.. it's beginning to let a lot of crazy people to be fixed on even more crazy things.
Im prob going to hell for laughing at this 😂😂😂
I needed that laugh after watching this sad film & reading the disrespectful nutter' s comments . Thank you 🤣
Just when you think you have seen the worst of people ... Words fail me.
Imagine losing your son or a relative in one of these attacks, just to have someone come up and tell you that you are lying and making it all up. That must be distressing as hell.
Tobberz imagine being brainwashed to the point you think your child is dead af, but really it isn’t even your child. It’s really not hard to put something like this on. And honestly I don’t believe this shit one bit.
shut up. its not real
perry kilauano yea your right nothing bad happens ever...
Yea, I mean how in a country with over 300 million legal guns, and millions of Illegal guns, can a mass shooting happen. Beyond.
perry kilauano it's time for humans to die off lol
That pastor is the most patient man I have ever seen.
He has the patience of a saint.
Or a very rich one
@@SpiritualJew1 are you one of these harassers?
Yeah,think about that?
because hes paid to be. very very paid
The guy that got arrested was allowed to run his mouth but as soon as his wife did he told her to calm down and be quiet lol
And your point?...
The Dark Portal her point is he’s a Douche bag
@@Markos581973 creepy
That’s exactly what I thought 💭??
“Hey, tone. It. Down.”
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
I hate when men try to control there gf or spouce they are human beings with free will they will do as they please just respect there decions
How can that horrible woman stand there and deface a banner that was put there to proclaim love and support, and her husband stand there cussing out a victim that lost his own daughter and half his congregation and call him vile names? 💔😢
Those people are not human! At least that awful facebook page one of the other cruel monsters was bragging about has been removed. How do those kind of monsters live with themselves?
“So you’re saying my daughter was never even born??” That’s the most painful part. The feeling that they aren’t just saying that the tragedy didn’t happen, they’re saying that little baby’s life was never real. The baby’s parents memories aren’t real. That’s so fucking wrong
I can’t imagine losing a child and people screaming in my face that I’m a liar
@Beastbombshell I feel so bad for your family that they have to be related to you. But hopefully they’ve all disowned you by now
@Beastbombshell don’t listen to them they gotta go learn gematria. They be the ones that think they know it all tho
That guy deserves a royal clock to his face for yelling at the pastor
Exactly !!! HE didn't lose anyone, that's why he was smirking
If you actually lost one I can see that.. proof is easy to show yet..
“I don’t question myself”: that’s the problem.
He's a part of the cult that support Chump.
Words of wisdom
pssssst..... www.bitchute.com/video/AOAXAhR3002w/
PlasmaBurns Get some help before you hurt somebody.
Wisdom!
what would personally hurt the most wasn’t the fact that people would tell me my loved one didn’t die but that they didn’t exist..
That nimrod who interrupted the Super Bowl XLVIII press conference to spew 9/11 twoofer bullshit tried to do just that to Victoria Soto's sister.
I would fight all of them. I don't like to hurt anyone.. but these guys would make me so happy to punch them in the face.
I wrote a paper on this for university but my hypothesis was that oftentimes when faced with unexpected tragedy, some people will either deny it ever happened or seek out conspiracy as a way to cope & find answers. Like September 11th & whatnot.
well, DUH.
love how the truther is saying the pastor is attacking him while he is harassing him .... uh... that's not how this works...
The new world order pastor
Literally did the same thing with the cops. 🥴 What a dick.
A "Karen" move
holy shit that pastor has incredible patience and self-restraint
He's a Man of God.
Socrates said a good man can never be harmed because goodness is reward in and of itself, and a bad man is always being harmed because evil is it’s own punishment. I think this pastor understands that.
Horrible and disgusting he’s probably just used to it by now
The gospel he preaches suggets otherwise .
Gerg C Yeah, that pastor is just WOW, he's so collected and calm and even trying to speak normally with him. I think I'm a rather calm person. But if someone told me a loved family member didn't die and I was lying about them ever having existed and all the rest this guy said... I don't think I could keep myself from completely losing my shit. Meanwhile this grieving father isn't even shaking and just fidgeting with his hands a bit. I would be either shaking like crazy trying to not attack him or would have completely snapped.
"Your suffering isn't real, because if it was it would scare me." -These awful people.
That's what I was thinking.
These people can't handle the reality of such heinous atrocities, so they create these delusional beliefs as a coping mechanism. Unfortunately, their insane way of coping causes more suffering to the victim's families.
They are cowards that have insecurities about their lack of understanding and control of reality.
@@sqlevolicious
Nailed it, and in a much more succinct manner than I did.
Blissful ignorance, they'd rather live in a world where kids arent being murdered monthly than one where they are.
Clearly a hoax.No proof of bullet
holes.The leftist didn't have an answer. ??
Funny they made a bullet hole in his house.
Just one. ?? But no holes in the church, 🤔🤔🤔🤔 No bodies,no death certs.And let's not forget David Hogshit. The worst crisis actor ever.I don't care for Alex Jones,but I'm always reminded on Dragnet, "Just the facts please" 🥺😉
Oddly enough, Tony was my first sponsor when I entered the AA rooms in Fort Lauderdale when I first tried to get sober a couple of years ago. Wild to see him in this. I learned a lot from him, namely what a good sponsor is supposed to be, which is why he wasn't mine for very long. Guy is shady.
& apparently he knows he sucks at being a parent as well 🫤
Update for anyone watching now: Wolfgang Halbig, 73, was arrested Monday on a charge that he was in unlawful possession of another person’s identification, according to the Lake County Sheriff's Office.
He was calling and harassing families all night and in person.
Great news!! 🇺🇸👏🏼
Was he holding a friends Id??? 73 EL .
The guy and mother arrested , fir trespassing but if you listen they and the pastor were to meet. so how is it trespassing
and that has nothing to do with the truth its just something to try and make him stop I hope he never does
God Bless Wolfgang
His mugshot is equally as hilarious. Dude has some obvious mental issues just looking at it.
🐑🐑🐑
people don't want to accept our reality, so they try to narrate their own version to minimize tragedy.
Can we all agree that if this dude ever gets killed in a shooting then we’ll all say that his life and death in particular was a false flag?
"2 suspects have been arrested, 1 suspect has been arrested. There was 1 suspect that took his own life, forget about the video footage that was taken of us arresting the suspect and walking him out of the woods" THATS why everyone thinks it's a hoax because it is. Kids might've lost their lives but it wasn't the kid they said it was. It was the US government hired shooters. If it even happened in the first place
I love the sentiment. But nah...we don't sink to that level. That's what seperates us.
@@prisonmike4971 be funny if his fellow conspiracy loons think he's a crisis actor
no
Frank definitely should declare it a false flag.
The couple at the end looks like the type of people you would see in a Grand Theft Auto "Strangers and Freaks" mission.
Hahaha yes
Imagine your son is killed. And then this guy comes over to you and calls you a liar and says your son never existed. I could not stay cool. He would have a problem. Physical.
@coy kehoe Your point being what? Its ok for school shootings to happen as long as the stats don't exceed that of the communist regime?
@coy kehoe Imagine a guy that calls himself coy kehoe and starts ranting on school shootings , gun control issues and doritos while he is answering on a comment made about a total different subject.
Imagine the meds he should be taken....
@coy kehoe I do not think in terms of political phrases. People that do that are trapped in their thinking process. Its a bit like liking your own comment after you pressed that enter button. Sounds familiar coy?
@coy kehoe Still stuck i see.....
I will explain why your thinking is off...not that you might listen but well....perhaps you will surprise me. And its a very easy sentence and explanation to make. Here it is....Lets make it two sentences...
You choose an narcissistic man born with a golden spoon up his arse as your hero president because the old politics has been a huge disappointment for you.
That is how idiots and dangerous people get to power.
@coy kehoe As i thought. You resort to insult. The easy way out is it not? I understand how your mind works. That at itself is an insult you will not understand.
Have a nice life.
I like how they pointed out the guy doing an interview was wearing an earpiece, it’s like… yeah how else are they supposed to hear the person who’s in a studio in New York questioning them? Do you think there’s some magical thing in front of the camera that lets them hear and see the interviewer?
should have given them the ear piece so they could hear what was coming through lol
how about the fact he was in like 30 different interviews
@@BigDirtDawg Occam's razor. The news stations use the same earpiece.
So they sent him the ear piece in the mail and the camera and microphone so they could interview him outside, i see that makes sense ... seriously if your going to track him down outside why can't the interviewer just ask him questions.
@@BigDirtDawg yeah I noticed him and I barley watch videos on this topic😂😂
My jaw literally dropped when that man said “no one cares about this kid” when referencing a child that died during the Sandy Hook massacre
I know. Absolutely terrible. I care, I always have. Thank the lord that page got taken down and I’m not sure where’s he’s at currently but I just hope he realizes how much hurt he’s causing in not only others lives- but his as well.
@@sofiamoreno9178 people like that rarely come to terms with the damage they do. Nor do they ever care!
@@sofiamoreno9178 I care too
@Clyde Wellington LMAOOOOO sure. Learn more about not basing your “facts” off of what you can’t see. And NEVER judge someone off of the media
@Clyde Wellington Ok Nutcase
The blacked out guy mentioned 25 percent of people are easily convinced of things especially if its told to them by someone they respect. I think that number is much higher because people blindly follow all sorts of crap especially if they hear it on the news or if it makes them fit in or feel accepted.
I feel so bad for that pastor dude, he was just keeping his cool
that was incredible to see his level of patience , I highly doubt id be able to compose myself like that if I had lost a child.
His composure was commendable for sure.
Kind of easy to do when nothing really happened. Duh.
Gurantee they paid him off to just laugh it off. He knows wtf happened
@@clippertonislander1478 your right my friend
In reference to 8:15, you don’t attempt to “confirm what you already know to be true”. You attempt to prove your theory incorrect. The goal should be to disprove your theory.
For all the things I've seen on Vice over the years the poor pastor being attacked might be the most disturbing and hard to watch.
If that's the worst you've seen, then you probably haven't watched the Liberian cannibal warlord documentary for Vice. Now that's fucked up. If you get a chance you should really go watch it, it's amazing!
i feel you man, we can relate on another level. also that's why i think this hits so much maybe even more than the warlords. like this shit could happen to us. But i aint going to Liberia be sure.
fast cash, you are mental!
A respectable man of God does not use violence to prove a point. He didn't need to get belligerent because it's obvious that he knows the truth of what happened. Versus the maniac who screaming and threatening and harassing said Pastor. We know who the real liar is. Like a little kid being called out on their bullshit, he gets angry and starts screaming & throwing a tantrum fit.
@fast cash well said man couldn't have said it better myself. If someone killed my daughter and then accused me of lying about it for money. He wouldn't have walked away bc I would've shot him.
I do not trust anybody who says: "I don't question my own morality. I've always been a good person."
I'm a very open minded person who loves to question things. I'm sure there are conspiracy theories that have some truth to them but now days some people seem to go overboard. Like to them almost everything is a conspiracy. Facts no longer matter. Its about believing what they WANT to believe.
This can be said about everything. They're oblivious to the truth and don't want to admit it.
It’s almost impossible to convince someone of something they don’t want to believe
Prometheus Jay And they're all Trump Supporters.
That's the power of the internet, people who think these things would never be able to reach each other if the internet didn't exist. And these ideas wouldn't be spread.
You're totally right. It's a mix of dogmatism and cognitive dissonance
I don't trust anyone who feels they need to say "I don't question my morality" "I'm a good person" in a situation like this. It's often sociopaths such as these specific hoaxers see themselves as the good guys despite all logic
What is the logic?
Right and then proceeds to prove how shitty of a person he actually is
@@StarfieldRailway he said "all logic" not any specific logic. ciao
@@mysteryY2K, he referred to all logic pertaining to a specific situation. He did not mean all logic that exists in reality. Ciao.
The person attacking the parents who lost their children sure turn into “snowflakes” when the police show up and arrest
They were being pretty gentle with him by any comparison and he still bitched.
Racist
@@RogerThat1637yup all they did was cuff him, very gently like u said, n big bully bad ass sure turned into a big pussy real quick.
They are also an extra special kind of clueless moron.
Free speech is free speech... these conspiracy people are clowns and clearly wrong, but speech and opinions are still allowed even when they are wrong. Too many fools are quick to suddenly not be ok with free speech when the other person is wrong or they don't agree with their opinions.
If you feel you are being harassed get a restraining order... it is pretty simple then if they contnue they will be reprimanded. The thing is tho you have to have proof of harassment to get a restraining order.
However these idiots should be able to have whatever opinion no matter how idiotic they want and shout it from the rooftops if they want... just makes it easier to spot and avoid them. There is a reason that freedom of speech and Press was the very first amendment.
The pastor having restraint brought me to tears.
Imagine how much restraint it took him
"we go to confirm what we already know to be true" this is the basis of confirmation bais.
Bias is spelled bias.
@@krismitchell5496 thank you so much for your help I'm sure this guy just doesn't know how to spell and it's not that he misspelled it because he's typing on a cell phone you are doing the world a great service keep up the amazing work
@@Van420Dal Have you read my other comments?
@@krismitchell5496 I'm guessing you're quite the spell checker
Exactly
It brings me so much solace to hear that man come to the realization that he has wasted so much of his life for an argument that he has been trying to disprove and all he has to show for it are weak, false narratives that clearly are proven wrong just by looking at footage of the shooting news coverage. I do feel sorry for his kid that he probably ignores on a regular bases.
well according to his perspective maybe his kid isn't even real. maybe he's not even real. just using his own stupid 'logic' against him.
That kid is better off without him being more "hands on".
You guys are the ones being played
I feel bad for his dog.
You mean the news coverage that is scripted and put together how they want you to see it lol
If this guy told me he was going to dig up my kids grave, I would tell him to start digging his.
Yes give in to the temptation murder him put their bloods on your hands
How many people have to see the body? You could claim any witness was just another crisis actor.
You got me fuck up. I would never let anyone speak about my dead daughter like that. It would be a fucking fist fight instantly.
That's pretty selfish to have him dig two graves and you do none
How that guy didn't instantly throw hands when he told him you have no proof your daughter died I have no idea that's more self control than I would have had.
While I don’t believe in the “crisis actor” stuff…
It’s crazy to me that people wouldn’t think the government would do terrible things in the name of their agenda.
The whole issue with the theory that this is all to take away guns is that the government has nuclear weapons, tanks, giant bombs. The idea that a gun, even an AR-15, can fight government tyranny is ridiculous.
@@annawalsh1904 Government has only one purpose. To control. Sometimes they kill, other times they enslave. Either way has always bordered on inevitability.
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I remember watching all the independent conspiracy videos back in the day. Can't find any today or is it just me?
youtube wiped them clean
@Gordon Campbell Man, I wish we could be friends. Everyone I know (and everyone in my city that I've seen) is sleepwalking.
YT is owned by Google, which is part of the censorship and coverup movement.
@@TacDyne you need tin foil?
Because people act on these baseless conspiracy theories and put other people’s lives at risk.
In the 1990s I thought the internet would bring the world together and usher in a new era of human consciousness. It is just one of the many things I have been wrong about in my life. I also thought a reality show con man would never be president. Wrong again.
Yeah me too , social media is destroying community cohesion like never before , everybody hates everybody else & the mentally ill have a place where they can get together in herds & swap bullcrap . Never known a poison chalice quite like it really . My elderly parents are literally aghast at what's happening & what people are choosing to believe .
Just shows how messed up people really are.
Yep me to. I though the internet and social media would bring society together. Sharing of cultures, ideas, and thoughts....but nope. Its a cesspool of hatred and bile. The internet comes with to much responsibility for a species like us.
Usher
Peace up, A-Town down
Yeah! Okay (Usher, Usher, Usher)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
And yet here you all are, hating 🤷🏼♀️
☘️
"We go to everyone in Texas just to confirm what we already know to be true and then there is no doubt about it when we get there"
*RIP critical thinking*
Oh yeah, you've just got to look around to realize that common sense and critical thought are both long gone.
They cherrypick facts and ignore other facts while asking "why didn't this happen" or "why weren't the cops blah blah blah" in order to further their narrative. They don't absorb information and subsequently form their opinions.....they start with their own conclusions. Pathetic.
You made me legit laugh.
I don't think they ever had them
Right? It’s called confirmation bias. You find a bunch of nut jobs to confirm your nut job theory & suddenly it must be true.
So sad that these families have to go through this. May all the victims rest in peace.
"One, I don't think you have *five* dollars."
oOOH THAT CLAPBACK
🤣
Seeing that deranged couple get arrested at the end was such a wonderful conclusion.
They should’ve been tased
Yeah just put them in a black cell and throw away the key for a year and then let them out and tell everybody that that never happened 🤣
Hes been arrested again for illegal possession of a firearm. He wasn't allowed to have one since he broke into a car years ago. Surprise! :)
Arrested for what?
They didn't trespass.
The cops could have told them to leave.
@@Kat.Evangeline14 lol you liked your own comment.
This side thorn dude might actually be the most unhinged human being I've ever seen.
R.i.p to the victims.
"You're a demon Frank" this man is a cartoon character
Trevor Reynafarje -that man may have been an actor placed to deliberately portray truthers as nuts (like how controlled opposition Alex Jones acts outrageous seemingly on purpose). God forbid a truther comes across as calm, reasonable, logical, and fair. The MSM would hate that. So they always go out of their way to clown the conspiracy researcher archetype so the general public is programmed to automatically not take such people seriously.
If you're not onto the mind games the media and government play on us, that means you're inadvertently letting them manipulate your thoughts.
A Sinner Found another one. Get some help.
Lmao
A Sinner don’t you have anything better to do
Trevor Reynafarje yeahh he's trying so hard to be Jesse Ventura 😂 😂
18:22 when they approached the church to write on the sign he tells his wife “tone it down this time” within seconds he gets into a heated match with the pastor himself. Lmao
ROBERT USSERY (nutjob #1) likes to exert what little control/power on JODI MANN (nutjob #2).
They want to hide behind their moniker so it's important their real names are public.
White privilege at its finest. If Side Thorn was black he would have been gunned down by the police.
Was thinking the same thing.
He told her to calm down so that when the cops come he looks like the crazy outspoken one n she won't get arrested but we see that didn't work out
Joe Om Actually he said, "Tone it down". Not tone it down 'this time'. Regardless of his actions as a "hoax" believer" or not, that's a misquote.
"I have the right to perform a citizens arrest on any cop that touches me!" What in the hell is this guy smoking that he thinks that he can arrest cops?
So, you're saying that cops can't be arrested? They're somehow above the law and get a 'Get Out of Jail Free' card when they're sworn in as cops?
@@YourLittleDeath Read my comment again...
@@Brando56894 That doesn't answer my question; at all.
@@YourLittleDeath I never said that cops can't be arrested, I'm just expressing audacity that this random dude thinks that he can peform a "citizen's arrest" on a cop. You clearly didn't get that though....
@@Brando56894 What this clown thinks or says he can do is arrest a cop pre-emptively if he thinks they've about to arrest or detain him or arrest them back as a retaliatory measure if they have. Anyone can arrest anyone. They just want to be sure of what they're doing because they could open themselves up to a whole lot of litigation. Someone can arrest a cop if they see them doing something wrong; the cop being off-duty would be the most typical scenario where that would happen. On-duty could invite a whole lot of trouble. Better in that situation to try and record what the cop is doing and forward the footage it to the appropriate agency.
Im a current victim of the same types of people everyday. I turned them in to the police department over 10 times in my apartment building. They still to this day almost 3 years later follow me i recognize them and they speak through a system and absolutely use their small children to try to make me believe those children were being raped. They tell everyone i have a guilty conscience and i am tortured in my sleep and àll day long physically and mentally. My first memory of them speaking to me and changing the situations around me was 4 years old. They say they wont give up. Please pray for my family and my animals as i witness them torture and speak to them in their sleep. I know my dog hears them as well because he barks and looks around at the same screams when i try to ignore them.
What kind of people? What are they trying to get you to do for them? Can you move?
Great story. I’ve interviewed a lot of hoaxers and conspiracy theorists over the years. They mostly all fit the same psychological profile; almost always male, in their 50s and 60s, reasonably intelligent, working in jobs where they don’t achieve the recognition that they believe is their right. They latch on to these ideas because it brings them attention and notoriety.
Peter Rees I'm a native American woman and you should watch the government look up
Bad booze the government poison alcohol during proabition.
Mk ultra, Dali lama was payed by the USA... Gulf of Tonkin... big Tabacoo new about cancer beforehand... Bohemian Grove...most important
Operation Northwoods
Operation Mockingbird -_-
Peter Rees well said!
danae hernandez I mean not all conspiracy theories and theorists are created equal, lbr.
Peter Rees I’m a female in my 30s and I don’t believe Sandy Hook or Parkland’s official story. The couple arrested in this video do not represent me or most of the people who doubt these stories.
If that was my daughter and that man was saying those things to me, I’d be in jail for a long time.
*Dont drink the bong water*
Now you tell me
Good advice.
Give it to me Ricky
While this is solid advice for everyone, I do have to say that one has to be drinking something a tad stronger than bong water to get to this level of crazy.
So don't drink the bong water, but also don't eat the tide pods, don't snort glass and don't inject anti-freeze or smoke industrial waste.
They hit that synthetic stuff
As someone who grew up with a mentally unstable parent. These hoax people bring back memories of the chaos.
Watching those two get arrested at the end, best part of the video.
To say I am DISGUSTED at this man and his wife is an understatement. I am so sorry for the victims and their families.
Agreed. The filth, toxicity and threats that he spewed and with such arrogance was terrible to witness.
The way he screans his head off but is always shushing his wife, he must be a joy at home....
You're being played
@@drewjenn9819 These people are playing along. They want to be the only ones with guns.
Yup just like that lizard neck lady that lied on emmitt till but we got real proof of that.. but no one cares .. where's the outrage that demon live a long prosperous Life after she lied and got a kid killed! But carry on this is so sad🙃
My god these poor parents. To lose their children and then be harassed and treated like crap. And to call that child who DIED a flash in the pan?! And essentially say he didn’t matter is sick. I sometimes I hope there is a hell for sick freaks like that.
You know nothing…think deeper
@@keithkelso9872 oh dear....and what do you know?
Hogg family is a bit off. What's with the dad? And the wannabe reporter kid? oh, and the mom? Daughter sure doesn't want to be there at all.
Holy shit, Vice, this comment section could have its own documentary. Jesus.
I really hate all these conspiracy nutjobs in this comment section. I hate 'em with a passion.
Conspiracy theorists believe in television fantasies than in the truth. It's true because they watch ultra violent video games, and horror films in order for them to escape from reality. They are the real reasons why there are more murderers back on the streets and more innocent people wasting their entire lives in prison. This is the most important reason why. The other reason is that conspiracy theorists support white supremacist groups such as the KKK, as well as other violent hate groups that are into committing extremely violent crimes ranging from rape and murder, and these are hate crimes against humanity, which is against the law. The conspiracy theorists who believe that Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Aurora, Orlando, etc. were fake and a hoax, are largely criminals who deserve to be charged with hate crimes against humanity, and need to be in prison for at least 5 to 10 years. Whenever they pick a fight with me, I tell them that I am a law abiding citizen who doesn't take the actions of these criminals likely because these conspiracy theorists are breaking the law, and they need to be punished accordingly. But, if you commit murder, you could automatically get at least 25 years without parole! So that is all that I will tell you about these pathetic criminals because they do need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
The conspiracy theorist you hear @ 5:50, had a gun in his hand, and threatened to kill that woman whose loved one was dead! He deserves a long prison sentence of 25 years without parole!
Bob Martin You are a paid disinformation agent. A slimy operator yourself. I guess you deserve 25 years in prison.
there are so many shills that try to discredit us people who prove time and time again about askenazi elite plots. Ive had many channels shut down and paid shills go after me.
"I think there was something done deceitful to bring about political change"
What political change?! Where?!
Exactly, some places don't even background checks WTF?!
Excellent point. *_NOTHING_* has changed.
To disarm America. Every gun sold at a gun store or FFL requires a backround check.
@@highcaliberexclusive9890 background checks aren't "disarming America". There have been ZERO steps taken to stop these mass shootings. It's still just as easy for people to get an entire arsonal of weapons to terrorize their communities with. Children are still being gunned down at school. There's still a good chance you will be shot while shopping for groceries, at the movie theater, watching a sporting event, or enjoying yourself at a festival or concert. Nothing has been done to "disarm America", but disarming America is the only solution to this uniquely American problem. We all should hope that it happens before one of our loved ones is senselessly murdered.
Will never happen to me or my loved ones! I will shoot back and not cower. That's the difference between me and you sheep. I'm a shepherd protector with my own firearms.
If I were a parent of a Stoneman Douglas victim, I think you'd have a hard time convincing me that it's not OK to do 20 to 30 years for blowing the face off of one of these hoaxers who claimed my child did not die.
I’m a pacifist but leave me alone in a room with these people for five minutes and I will swear to GOD they fell.
Imagine if someone killed their child and people came up to them saying “it’s not true, prove it”. Like WHY DO I OWE YOU ANYTHING?!
lol hogg wasnt even present and most there dont agree......
@@schurlknight20 what do you mean by that?
@Joe Blow According to gunsuckers, no mass shooting has ever happened.
As someone who has spent a lot of time learning about conspiracy theorists, silence may seem like it fuels them, talking to them fuels them more. NEVER talk to conspiracy theorists.
the thing with conspiracies is that no matter how much overwhelming evidence you show against them, they will find a way to deny it. it's never worth debating a conspiracy theorist.
Never.
Like a forever trumper , doesn’t matter what he does , they’ll never consider he’s a bad person or a criminal. The phone call to the Georgia governor asking him to find 11,780 more votes ? They just describe it in it most basic for and say “ so it’s illegal to make a phone call now ?”. When any sane thinking person knows it’s not the phone call itself, but the content of the call that shows election manipulation/ fraud. Stormy Daniels ? “ so it’s illegal to pay someone some money after you’ve spent an afternoon with them ?” It’s hilarious 😂
Spot on
Goes the other way too.
No matter how paranoid or conspiracy-minded you are, what the government is actually doing is worse than you imagine.”
- William Blum
19:09
"Would you like to put that in writing and take a polygraph for $100,000?"
"I don' think you have FIVE dollars..."
Lol, cooked his ass.
Sam Nordstrom he changed the subject when confronted with the lie detector
Holly Wollygog Cuz arguing with an insane person is a good use of time.
Sam Nordstrom One would think a "man of god" would jump at the chance to prove him wrong and make $100k for himself and his church.
Sam Nordstrom changing the subject when offered a lie detector test is highly suspicious.
MsLaceAndLeather these nuts aren't gonna be proven wrong. They'll move the goalposts and claim the conspiracy involves polygraphs and demand more proof. Do you really think this guy will accept the results and finally admit that a mass murder took place? Fuck no.
Here's what WILL happen :
'Thorn in the side of sanity' is going to approach a survivor or victim's family, and they will understandably take great offense to being told their loss is false...
And
Thorny will then be part of one shooting conspiracy that will immediately be disproved :
His own.
The man saying he doesn’t question his morality, and then he says how good he is to people…. He calls harassing people who have suffered a horrible tragedy being “ good to people”.
Watching how this big man baby acts when he's being arrested is absolutely crazy, he's got some serious issues and seems to be a ticking time bomb.
He was later arrested on felony gun charges for possession of a firearm as a convicted felon. According to a local news article, his girlfriend was committed on the grounds that she “suffered from issues that affect her understanding of reality.”
The pastor should be arrested, it should be illegal to be a crisis actor but they get payed well by the government
@@SnortDust Why am I not surprised he had guns as a convicted felon?
People who say these conspiracy-nuts 'can't handle reality' give them too much credit. They're just _selfishly obsessed with their guns_ and fear tighter gun-legislation. That's why they attack the dead kid's families, they've got a political agenda...
"2 suspects have been arrested, 1 suspect has been arrested. There was 1 suspect that took his own life, forget about the video footage that was taken of us arresting the suspect and walking him out of the woods" THATS why everyone thinks it's a hoax because it is. Kids might've lost their lives but it wasn't the kid they said it was. It was the US government hired shooters. If it even happened in the first place
@@SnortDust They are victims.
never trust a 30 y.o. teenager
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TRUMP FOREVER Retards have forgotten what teenagers look like they’re saying david hogg looks 30
That's very true
@@ex-plic3802 Thank god the NWO can't do simple math- that's there achilles heal!
@claude thibault LOL !!!
These men are all older and seem to have fallen victim to a "bubble" of information that they *want* to hear.
not just older people. Reddit and twitter are exactly that. A bubble where all the information that resonates with the users get promoted and pushed without space for competing ideas.
Yeah that’s true
Once you see it, you can never unsee it!
No matter how much effort is put into the program.
The world is a clown show
“I don’t question myself...”
BOOM there’s the problem all summed up a single sentence
“One...I don’t think you even have five dollars” fuckin pawned lol
Yes he was.
Has anybody else noticed the hoax claiming people are all old retired dudes with too much time?.
Eddie Sanchez right? Haha
Eddie Sanchez I guess if you can't project your self importance at work then you start doing it on the Internet.
its funny because the comment right above yours is calling them all millenials lmao
Can you imagine what it is like to have worked with these people before they retired?
yeah, it's weird that older people have lost all their knowledge and can't think anymore.. weird. I wonder how that works?
Saying "I don't wanna be another number" repetitively during a school school does seem like a weird thing to say. More than likely it rly happened but to me that girl was hamming up that talking point for the camera.