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Honda Recon 250 Engine teardown
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- Опубліковано 12 січ 2020
- This is a diy video of the motor disassembly on a Honda recon 250. I also have a removal video that I will post a link to.
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You've been a great help brother. I've rebuilt my entire Recon watching your vids. Thanks. Drew, Georgua
Same here... Pretty sweet!!! Thanks for the videos!!!
I just want to let you know I really appreciate your video thank you so much.
Man I wish you was closer,you really looks like you don't mess around, you look like you know what your doing. There a joke down here!!- keep up with your fine work,& video's!!!! Martin in South Ga
Very helpful video!!!
Awesome video!!! Very helpful!!!!!!!
Gotta do this to a recon the piston is basically gone on one side so tearing it apart to clean the metal oit
Very helpful video 💯
Can you put tool list in description to help a little more.
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Thank for the post. very helpful. Can you the seals ,bearings and gaskets as a kit ?
You can get them as a kit aftermarket but they have to be purchased separately through Honda.
I just tired to use the bolt tool and it stripped the inside of the magneto flywheel so now how will I be able to take it off?? Please help thank you!
Merry christmas
My 250ES won’t shift into 4th. I’ve got 1-3 via electric or manual shift. But can’t get it into 4th or beyond. Any thoughts on what could be the problem?
I have a 2002 Honda recon same motor I put a primary clutch and secondary clutch it’s still will not move any info would help
Is the nut on the change clutch left handed thread also?
No
Hello how much do you charge to rebuild an engain
My brothers Honda recon 250 has shifting problems. It’s a electric shift but it is currently stuck in 4th gear and can’t go down. Can go from 4th to 5th and back. We can’t even manually shift it. Think it may be a broken gear or something?
I have a 2003 Honda recon 250. I replaced the cylanoid. It still wouldn't start, I jumped it with another bike it started but didn't want to go in gear, I pushed it forward, finally went into 1st but now the light is flashing & it will not go into any gears/ reverse. It won't start if in gear. Had to use manual shift wrench to get it out of 1st. so was wondering if it could be the electric shift or the angle shift sensor? Or maybe something else?
Your shift motor on the front of the engine is bad buddy don't know if you have found that out yet or not but hope that helps
Rodney Billy-thanks for the reply. It was actually the cylanoid, I replaced it but the new one wasn't any good, so took it back got a different one put it on and haven't had a problem since. Thanks again.
That's good buddy I'm glad you got it fixed I have a 04 250 Honda Recon getting ready to do a timing chains replacement I am not at all happy to do it LOL
Hey I have a question. I have a 03 recon that needs a new crankshaft/rod. Would I need a press to remove the crankshaft out of the housing or should it slip right out?
How can I pull the cam shift?
when changing the oil filter do you have to pull the clutch
No you do not have to pull the clutch. It doesn't really have a filter pers a it is more or less a strainer that catches oil contaminants as it is squeezed out between two pieces of metal. It has a unique oil filtration that only the recon has.
Should I even mess with it
@@dieselfirebaker8613 I wouldn't unless I had to pull the front cover for some other reason like to replace some slipping clutches. Most of these bikes never have the filter cleaned out and still run for a very long time.
Any help with a 250 bottom end reassembly after case split?
how do you finishing removing the whole crank shaft?
You going make leak if split case from bottom
Do you got video rebuilding the crank. Can they b rebuilt? My connecting rod damaged on piston end
Thank you for your previous reply. Do I have to completely disassemble the whole engine to re do the transmission gears ?
I've never done it before but you could possibly leave the rear cover on the engine and still get the transmission gears out but the center crankcase does have to be separated
How do you get the piston out of the center crank case
There is a small snap ring on each side of the piston pin. Take a small screwdriver in the notch cast into the piston and pry the clip up and out. Make sure you shove a rag into the hole in the crankcase to keep the clip from falling in if it happens to fly out of the piston.
Four wheeler Doctor yea but if the case is all torn apart like yours
Same thing you just won't have to worry about the clip falling in the case of you already have yours split. Just take one of the clips out of the position and push the piston pin from the opposite side.
Do you have the information of the flywheel puller ? Part number or something
This is it
ebay.us/uxSZDN
Hoping someone can offer some advice, have a recon 250 that dies immediately upon putting it in gear I've heard I should be able to put it in first and it will roll backwards, mine will roll forward but only a couple inches back it has a new 1 way bearing and wet clutch and those perform as the book says they should I did have the transmission out and put it back together watching this very video and thought it was correct is it possible something didn't get lined back up correctly?
my apologies for positing this here if not allowed please delete but I don't know where else to ask for advice for this
Does it die like something is locked up in the transmission? What about if you put it in reverse first? Does it still die?
@@FourwheelerDoctorAt this point that's what I'm wondering but don't know what it would be. Yes it does the same thing when I put it in reverse. So if it should roll backwards when in first gear if I take it apart again to ensure things are correct when its in first I should be able to spin the transmission in what direction clockwise or counter clockwise?
@@FourwheelerDoctor is it true that when its in first gear it should roll backwards?And first should be the first click up from neutral correct?
@@dangoodwin7935 that is correct
Do you know what the threads are on the reverse nut and crank for the centrifugal clutch (18mm x 1.0)? Would like to get a die to clean up the threads before reassembly.
I'm not sure what they are but that sounds pretty close. I know they are very fine thread.
Just want to make sure everything is right before I assemble it,only want to do it once
great videos Thank you for all the help . I just picked up a $200 02 recon , guys says it has no spark lol, well after i reconnected the CDi it has spark but intermittent push rod movement , Im guessing cam chain is slipping or cam gear is stripped, Does that sound correct? or atleast close either way sounds like a tear down ?
Does the starter sound like it is slipping while turning over? Im thinking you may have trouble with the one way bearing on the starter gear.
@@FourwheelerDoctor yes it does sounds like a thrashing machine while its cranking
@@jasonhorton4798 you might want to check the one way bearing behind the flywheel.
@@FourwheelerDoctor Got it ! thank you very much for your help
i have 5 four wheelers on the farm the grand kids keep me busy in the shop again thank you
I'm have in trouble getting the fly wheel off I don't have a fly wheel puller I need help plz
It's going to be tough without a puller. Most Honda use the same puller so if you have a local shop close by, they would probably have one they would sale or let you use.
Where are you located and will you rebuild a Recon motor if I pull it and ship it to you?
How similar is this to a 2006 trx250ex with out electric shift
Very similar. The front cover will be the only difference.
@@FourwheelerDoctor does the the top end and cam cups have to come out before the cam gear comes off ? I just pulled the front cover trying to change the oil pump chain and the cam gear will not slide out like you video and I cannot get to the oil pump chain until the cam chain is off??
Hey not sure exactly what model ATV I have but it looks exactly like the one you have there I followed your instructions of taking it apart and go all the way down to the piston I just uploaded a video of the problem I’m having it sounds like a loud grinding noise from the engine block area can you please help ? Video is on my channel of the noise
Will it run? Sounds like the valves are hitting the piston or the piston is moving around in the cylinder. It sounds like it is in the top end so start tearing it down and you will probably find your problem pretty quick.
Four wheeler Doctor it did start and run and as I was riding it it started making a grinding noise somewhere near the top end (grinding sounds worst in person) so I turned it off but everytime I start it the noise sounds horrible so I don’t run it to long just posted another video on my page of how it looks not sure what it would be hitting against, should I tear it down more ? Like you did in the video
Four wheeler Doctor I moved the piston up and down and there’s no play but I move it side to side and there’s play
can you do a video on stator replacement on the recons ?
did you ever find one?
Hope you see this. What would you do when you find play in the crankshaft? Would you use an ebay crank?
I normally use OEM cranks when I rebuild one. I'm not saying you can't use an aftermarket or even a used one with no play but the way I see it is, as much work as it is to swap out, I want to make sure it is going to work when I put it together because I don't want to do it a second time.
@@FourwheelerDoctor thanks!
Really like your videos, I just bought a 2012 250 recon that’s locked up. Was told that it had been run low of oil. I removed the head and cylinder and to my surprise the rings and cylinder look good and came off very easy. The rod seems to be a little tight but I have been able rotate the crank after working it back and forth . My question is what would be the most likely problem causing it to lock up?
The roller bearings on the big end of the road are probably shot. Does the rod have any up and down play in it?
It don’t have any up and down movement but the rod has spots that it sticks as I rotate the crank by hand.I have taken the engine out, would you recommend tearing it down at this point. If so is there a complete kit that you would use?
Can the bearings be replaced on the big end of the rod?
@@altonbarksdale4713 I would recommend tearing it down. Sounds like you have a crankshaft issue. There is not a factory kit to use but there maybe aftermarket ones out there.
@@altonbarksdale4713 The bearing and rod can be replaced but they have to be done by machine shop or at least someone that can true the crankshaft up after it is put back together.
So if the timing chain slips, intake valve open on up stroke, will the piston smash the valves?
I do not think they will on these motors
@@FourwheelerDoctor Thanks
Video is very helpful apart from you didn't show how you got the nut off the first clutch
If you don’t can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be even removing your engine. Yes that sounds mean but this guys has done enough. Get the manual cheap skate.
What would make it jump in and out of 1st gear?
Most of the time it's worn shift forks not fully engaging gears. It's not a real easy repair since the entire engine has to be taken apart to access the forks.
Do I have to remove the shifter shaft on a manual transmission.
I don't think you have to actually remove the shifter. The shaft that runs through the motor will have to be removed if you split the case
@@FourwheelerDoctor man I'm fighting a charging issue been messing with it on and off for a few months. Keeps slowly draining the battery about every month. I got the back stator cover off. Bought new voltage regulator and new stator new pulse pick up coil. I hope this fixes it. It's my sons bike and he rides it alot.
@@therompatriot3839 have you checked anything on it for a slow draw? Like any aftermarket accessories that were wired into the battery?
Is the fly wheel on the starter side reverse thread ?
No you should turn it counterclockwise to remove.
Would you tell me about the cost on replacing a clutch on a 250 recon push button shift, 2008 year?
The clutches from Honda are around $65 and you may have to replace the front cover gasket too which is around $20. Go ahead and try it yourself. It's not hard and doesn't take very long especially if you have a air ratchet and an air impact.
@@FourwheelerDoctor thx a lot. Martin
Do I have to take the back cover off to get to the center?( under the piston) a nut fell down and I’m trynna see if I can just take the middle bolts off and see if I can find the nut inside.
If you could answer as fast as possible please I’m trynna get this quad running back again.
Yes you do have to take the back cover off.
Four wheeler Doctor damn. Okay thanks!
Four wheeler Doctor do you know any other possible ways I could take it out or the best way is to dissemble the motor
@@everardoplancarte4178 you have a couple options. You can take either remove the front or rear covers off or both and fish through the holes you find behind them with a magnet. The other option is to take the motor off and I assume you have the cylinder off already. You can turn the motor upside down and shake it out the way it went in.
Where can I get a cam chain to fit a 2001 recon 250 ? Can’t seem to find one for a 2001 only 2002+ are they the same everything I read says they are different unsure tho
I think this will work
www.ebay.com/itm/231976409908
That link brings up the oil pump chain I already ordered it I need the cam chain
@@Redneckrebel1991 well dang I searched for the part number but it pulled up the oil chain and I didn't pay attention to the description. Let me look around and see if I can find you a cam chain
Four wheeler doctor, I've got a 2005 button shift recon 250. 4th gear was working fine until it jumped out of 5th gear one day, bounced between 4-5 then chunk and indicator says 4. However now I have N-1-2-3-N-5. What do you think happened to 4th gear?
I have never seen one do that before. It sounds like maybe one of the cogs on fourth gear has broken not letting it lock up and pull in fourth. It sounds like an internal issues and would have to have the crankcase split to be repaired.
Can’t seem to get that bolt off at 8:51 even with the impact gun any suggestions
You would probably mess up the seal behind it if you tried heating it and with it being so long enough heat may not reach the thread to do and good. They Normally come off fairly easily as in the video. I would try a larger impact since there isn't a good way to keep the crankshaft from spinning if you tried to use a normal ratchet.
@@FourwheelerDoctor is it left or right hand threads on that bolt. Were having a helluva time getting it off.
i put together it all and now have the problem of the back wheels being locked up even though it can change gears
Will it roll in neutral?
@@FourwheelerDoctor it will not
@@dieselfirebaker8613 with the output shaft rotate once you bolted the cases together? Before you put it in the bike?
The reverse lever is that suppose to be on the trx engine also.Im tearing on edown now and it doesnt have that lever.I know someone has been in it
I believe all Honda engines except the 650 and 680 rincons have the reverse lever. Will it go into reverse?
@@FourwheelerDoctor There is a cup with an alien head bolt to tge right which i dont seen in this videoit has the spring on the lever.I purchased the bike stuck in gear after i tore it down oil pump chain was oill then i pulled head puston skirts broken so its needs to be tore apart.
@@FourwheelerDoctor would you reassemble if i shipped it to you? Theres only dealerships near me and they wouldnt touch it before i removed it
Oh you are talking about a 300 fourtrax. The reverse is set up a little different than the one in the video. The cup is what makes the reverse/ neutral light come on on the dash. Where are you from?
@@FourwheelerDoctor the engine is off a 01 trx250ex it says 229 on the cylinder its a lil different than ur video only small pieces I just dont know if anything is missing and you look like youve done alot of them.Im in NC Im not in a hurry on it. i will clean everything and have it all in individual bags.I have it all apart but the magneto off. Case is split i dont see any damage but to the piston skirts busted
Cual es la medida del dado usado en el minuto 13:07 ???
What is the measurement of the die used in the minute 13:07 ???
I believe it is m20x1.5
Would this be the same for a 1998 foot shift honda recon 250cc ?
Yes the only difference is the shift motor and gears in the front cover. The foot shift model doesn't have them.
@@FourwheelerDoctor i thank u for the fast response sir thank you
@@FourwheelerDoctor so I have another ? Sir my 98 250cc recon will turn over so far then stops with the electric start not when I turn the crank bolt by hand it will free up but will not complete a rotation all the time sometimes it will sometimes it wont I took top end off it an there is no play in the piston up or down or the crank like u explained in one of ur vids. Now on the cylinder walls there is some groves in the cylinder walls could that be causing the engine not to turn over when head and cylinder are off I can turn engine over by hand with no problem at all its when the top end is on that it does not want to turn over.
Could the top end be my problem
@@justsendit8334 normally grooves in the cylinder wall will not keep the Piston from moving up and down. But if it turns freely when you have the cylinder off, it about has to be something in the top end. Can't say I have ever seen one do that before. Sometimes the Piston hitting the valve will cause it to stop in one spot so check your piston in your valves for any contact
@@FourwheelerDoctor i looked for that when I tore it apart an I dont see anything to where they would have been hitting
Hey I’m doing a engine rebuild on my Honda recon 250 2001 I need help my Engine 10 mm broke off in the housing where the pistons at any suggestions. To get it out. I don’t want to have to buy a whole Nother Engine housing
Which bolt exactly broke off? Some are not critical.
Four wheeler Doctor the one to the cylinder housing where it secures the cylinder to on the engine there’s 2 10 mm studs One broke off what’s your email so I can send you a picture of it . The acorn nuts didn’t break off The little one that secures the cylinder down did. It’s called a flange Bolt www.partzilla.com/product/honda/95701-06070-00?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgv2Q2Oet7AIVMvC1Ch1VQgo4EAQYFiABEgIhtfD_BwE
@@skylerhenry8455 that is not a critical bolt since the acorn nuts hold the head and cylinder on. You can fill the hole with rtv to seal it off and it will be fine. I have worked on ones like this before that were broken and have never had problems with the 10 mm head bolts missing.
Four wheeler Doctor oh ok good I was really worried it’ll be all right if we can’t get it out I’m not worried about it then that’s good thank you for the help. I’m glad you got these videos on here so I can watch I learned so much. Means a lot.
Four wheeler Doctor I got it going the Battery’s Died I think it makes a whining sound when I hit the starter got to charge the battery it runs good Took a while though hope it runs for a long time
I'm in Douglas , ga
Well I have it all torn apart, now what?? lol
The reassembly video is uploading now. Stay tuned. It will be public before the end of the day. Thanks for checking out my videos!
Sorry I was thinking you were committing on another video. Check on this one for reassembly ua-cam.com/video/BnpyQYUxX8Y/v-deo.html
20:38 is there a way to get that off without that tool
You can tap the bell in a few places with a hammer. It's not held on there very tight
Four wheeler Doctor so it’s just wedged on there not screwed it looked like you unscrewed it
@DJI Flights I was thinking you were talking about the clutch bell. It is held on with a nut and an impact is about the only way to get it off
Four wheeler Doctor I got the nut off is there an email I could send you pictures at tomorrow
Four wheeler Doctor I got the nut that’s reversed threaded off after that there’s nothing I have to screw off I can just tap it with a hammer to get it off after that if I’m understanding right??
Crak silender
Why is the video a thumbnail
It was filmed on my old camera that would only film in 720p.
Hey im doing this to a 2001 Honda recon trx 250 i have a few questions can you find me on facebook at logan madon im from kentucky my bio says i love chemistry just message me on facebook messenger or reply and I'll try to ask it here
I don't have Facebook. Just ask on here and I will reply.