This is the Tiny, Cheap Jeep We've ALL Been Waiting For!

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  • Опубліковано 26 бер 2024
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    ( www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! Finally, Jeep brings back the short, lightweight, tiny and affordable Jeep Wrangler we've all been waiting for! Is this a sign that the "Short Cut" concept that originally debuted back in 2016 could actually happen? Nathan and Tommy take a look around this concept and discuss why it's at the 2024 Easter Jeep Safari in this video.
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  • @TFLcar
    @TFLcar  Місяць тому +64

    Thanks to AccuAir Suspension for sponsoring TFL’s coverage of the 2024 Easter Jeep Safari! To find out more about AccuAir’s full lineup of Jeep-compatible lift kits, visit their website: ( accuair.com/collections/jeep-dynamic-lift-kits )

    • @Carl...CRL...
      @Carl...CRL... Місяць тому +5

      Jeep never makes any of their prototype vehicles. So why continue this process of showing off what they can do, but won't do?

    • @neoblackwolf69
      @neoblackwolf69 Місяць тому +1

      Is it street legal?

    • @thehoneybadger8089
      @thehoneybadger8089 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@neoblackwolf69Not as shown and by the time you make it so you might just as well have bought the basic Wrangler.

    • @Goat706mopar
      @Goat706mopar Місяць тому

      Will it fit a v8

    • @Sean2002FU
      @Sean2002FU Місяць тому +3

      I don't get it, this is nothing new
      at all......Its a CJ-5 re-creation, nothing more. Nothing new here.
      If Jeep produced it, it would sell like hot cakes, Though I'm not a jeep guy, ( I have a hmmwv) I have long loved the CJ-5...and would own one!

  • @benjaminpoulson4894
    @benjaminpoulson4894 Місяць тому +622

    Needs a basic 4 cylinder naturally aspirated with a 5 speed manual and a sub $25k price tag.

    • @zachlafond2652
      @zachlafond2652 Місяць тому +47

      This. Keep it super simple.

    • @riogrande163
      @riogrande163 Місяць тому +10

      jeeps already come with a 6 speed manual....

    • @map3384
      @map3384 Місяць тому +18

      Forget the 4. My brother had the Pontiac 2.5 in his CJ7 and I had the 4.2 straight 6 in mine. The 4 won’t move a vehicle this heavy.

    • @Dukerdr
      @Dukerdr Місяць тому +15

      @@map3384 Then it shouldn't be that heavy. Lots of cars have more accessories and weigh less. A 4 gets them around just fine...

    • @jeffdieringer1
      @jeffdieringer1 Місяць тому

      Agreed

  • @thegreatoutthere
    @thegreatoutthere Місяць тому +949

    Instead of suing Roxor, Jeep needs to offer a competitive product!

    • @DesertRox
      @DesertRox Місяць тому +111

      Jeep made a Roxor 8 yrs ago and never brought it to market and then got mad when someone dared do it! I got my Roxor for 14k and with another 3k I have a 30mpg off road monster

    • @dirtycommtroop
      @dirtycommtroop Місяць тому +5

      @@DesertRox you can register it?

    • @josephhertzberg2734
      @josephhertzberg2734 Місяць тому +14

      ​@@dirtycommtroop most places

    • @josephhertzberg2734
      @josephhertzberg2734 Місяць тому +6

      My neighbor has one here in Virginia

    • @cr9953
      @cr9953 Місяць тому +13

      Not competitive, bet that still cost more than my 2020 Roxor. How is being competitive by putting in an Auto Trans. Plastic dash

  • @rickrichter9445
    @rickrichter9445 Місяць тому +121

    They won’t build it, they never do. Jeep is constantly building these AWESOME concepts that never go into production. Drives me nuts.

    • @eriklind5174
      @eriklind5174 Місяць тому +9

      like a 2 door truck, or the FC concept

    • @chrisbrass8930
      @chrisbrass8930 26 днів тому +2

      I think they are going to be forced to, Jeep sales are suffering due to the prices they are charging so creating a sub $30 grand vehicle would have some huge appeal, especially for single men

    • @PGVladimirovich
      @PGVladimirovich 22 дні тому +2

      same with cadillac, amazing concepts and then some basic vanilla ass prod release

    • @michigandon
      @michigandon 19 днів тому +1

      I came here to say this, but knew in my heart it had already been said.

  • @SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman
    @SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman Місяць тому +38

    I had a bare bones 1976 Jeep in 1992 with no doors, no seatbelts, no top & no back seat but it had the 304 4bbl 3sp & I put some 33's on it & it took me everywhere I wanted to go & it was so much fun ✌💖☮

  • @DRIVEMACHINE65
    @DRIVEMACHINE65 Місяць тому +585

    i want this so bad but they would still find a way to charge like 35k-45k for it lol. You know, "cheap"

    • @Sonofawildanimal4241
      @Sonofawildanimal4241 Місяць тому +25

      $40k+ for sure!

    • @FATmenDRIVEtrucks
      @FATmenDRIVEtrucks Місяць тому +15

      They drive absolutely awful too

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 Місяць тому

      Look how much side by sides are. $35k for this would be a steal

    • @lanedexter6303
      @lanedexter6303 Місяць тому +16

      Yep, “cheap” is a relative term. Remember, Viper was first conceived as a cheap modern Cobra. I wonder how close Kei trucks can get to a Jeep. A friend’s flat fender MB is out in my yard. That’s a Jeep.

    • @Summerfan69
      @Summerfan69 Місяць тому +2

      that's perhaps under than 30K (new one) since it's JK the previous version!

  • @is6566
    @is6566 Місяць тому +314

    People commenting here and Nathan included, mentioning this should start $35k? You can go and build and order a 2-door Wrangler JL Sport for $34k including destination charges. Manual, no AC, doors with crank windows. Your dream is available right now. This should be $25k or less for me to consider. I got my JL two years ago for less than $30k, brand new, and again it’s still available below $35k MSRP.

    • @tallll70
      @tallll70 Місяць тому +31

      I agree, this barely has any utility, why would I be getting it if the price is not attractive

    • @benjaminserino6611
      @benjaminserino6611 Місяць тому +23

      I was thinking the same thing people just buy expensive wrangler JLUs and rubicon packages they forget a base model it less than 35,000 dollars, this needs a manual and to be under 25

    • @spyder000069
      @spyder000069 Місяць тому +20

      Price a modern side by side and then look at how refined of a vehicle you are getting for that $25K.

    • @is6566
      @is6566 Місяць тому +19

      Side by side prices are also insane. Still the fact is that you can get a Wrangler that’s way more refined than this concept (or any side by side) for less than $35k.
      Some side by side are $35k and up. The fact that a Wrangler is same price or less with about $2k dealer profit included shows how much extra profit is baked into the SxS market.

    • @joshsheffield5702
      @joshsheffield5702 Місяць тому

      ​@@spyder000069 side by sides are insane. You can get a Mahindra Roxor for $16k or so. It will probably be more reliable than anything Jeep has made in the last 30 years, but you've gotta jump through some hoops to make it road legal.

  • @leonardboufford282
    @leonardboufford282 Місяць тому +25

    Straight 6, 4 spd, no ac, power steering, 4wd. Power brakes. Spare tire. Add top and doors. Yea, I'd buy one.

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss Місяць тому

      Gonna be riding round the desert here with ice packs in my pants I guess. Anything got a 20k real jeep

    • @jacobrzeszewski6527
      @jacobrzeszewski6527 27 днів тому

      Maybe a 5 speed hi/low range. Would make more sense.

    • @leonardboufford282
      @leonardboufford282 27 днів тому +3

      @jacobrzeszewski6527 one would presume that it would already have high/low. 4 or 5spd makes no difference. I remember the three speeds from. Years ago.

    • @MaineGeezer
      @MaineGeezer 20 днів тому +1

      Yes, a long stroke 6 that can idle along while you're crawling over rocks.

    • @josephhorton85
      @josephhorton85 10 днів тому

      Long 4 turbo diesel, 5 Spd, AC, power steering, 4x4, low 4 transfer case, power brakes. basic hardtop with soft doors and call it OTR (On the Rox). YOU WOULD GET ONE TOO!

  • @timothykelley4425
    @timothykelley4425 Місяць тому +71

    35g is cheap? Plus taxes, dealer fees, transportation fee, documents fee, registration fees, etc. It's more like 45- 50g. I'm out.👎

    • @davyydsummers
      @davyydsummers 17 днів тому +11

      thanks for saving me 10 minutes.

    • @ArolzStreams
      @ArolzStreams 16 днів тому +5

      It’s not 10k-15in tax and fees stop it.
      Also it’s a jeep, $35k for a new off road jeep is cheap. Are you comparing it to a car or other vehicles like it?

    • @charlescuthbertson709
      @charlescuthbertson709 15 днів тому +3

      What are you smoking? The 35 probably was with Destination fee.. just like every other quoted msrp from any auto manufacturer. And what 6% sales tax 25 dollar registration fee? Maybe a 500 dollar doc fee. Car salesman here. You clearly are not. And have never probably bought a car in your life. Keyboard warrior.

    • @easyox77
      @easyox77 13 днів тому

      @@ArolzStreamsthere is nothing else like it at 45k complete.

    • @kairu_aname
      @kairu_aname 6 днів тому +1

      ​@@charlescuthbertson709
      Except you're a good(bad) salesman.
      You lie, lie, lie to get people to buy at a SEVERELY increased rate over msrp.
      Also, those "hidden" fees are just so you can do exactly as the example suggests.
      There's TONS of proof that it happens, both legal and documented in MY OWN papers.
      It's just as they say, bogus charge after additional bogus charge just called a different name just like their example.

  • @nksconstruction5178
    @nksconstruction5178 Місяць тому +358

    It would need to come in under 25k or it’s pointless- the standard two door wrangler is already too expensive. The whole purpose of this would be to bring to market the basic off road capable vehicle of the past

    • @phild9813
      @phild9813 Місяць тому +20

      It’s super cool, and you are correct. Nothing like that is ever going to happen though.

    • @larryhouse3776
      @larryhouse3776 Місяць тому +11

      Just get a side by side or a quad and have something with 10x the offroad capability.

    • @sconner1986
      @sconner1986 Місяць тому +10

      That won't happen. They will slap on some suspension and call it a special run product and charge a premium.. People will buy it anyway.

    • @phild9813
      @phild9813 Місяць тому +17

      I’m out on most side by sides and atvs as a replacement for a jeep. They’re crazy loud and have garbage transmissions for the most part. I guess I’m just an old fud yelling at clouds though. If I’m going off roading in a vehicle that isn’t refined, I’m riding my dirt bike.

    • @ChadSchrandt
      @ChadSchrandt Місяць тому +13

      With their current market strategy of insane prices? Nah, this is will be $34K and be a limited release.

  • @TKCL
    @TKCL Місяць тому +150

    Love my Roxor, plus the fuel efficiency and torque of the diesel is amazing. I also have doors, heat and AC if needed. I agree Jeep, Toyota and others need to get smart and make an affordable, stripped down 4x4. They would sell like crazy, so many desire them. Not everyone needs touch screen dashes, sensors everywhere, power seats and all the other junk that makes vehicles so expensive today.

    • @Wesmancan
      @Wesmancan Місяць тому +1

      Still will be over priced for what you get. Just like all vehicles. The cool factor would sucker many into buying one. No matter how not user friendly they are.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL Місяць тому +7

      @@Wesmancan I own one and couldn't be any happier. The diesel is a game changer for me and not offered by anyone else with a small offroader in the states. I usually get 30 MPG and the torque is wonderful for off road adventures.

    • @cr9953
      @cr9953 Місяць тому +5

      I have a Roxor and I built mine after the CJ look. Most aftermarket CJ parts fit my roxor. It is a beast Off road the manual I wouldn't have anything else. Love the simplistic design.

    • @robformica5394
      @robformica5394 Місяць тому +3

      All that fancy stuff is cheap.

    • @rodgervanausdal5400
      @rodgervanausdal5400 Місяць тому +4

      IF TOYOTA offered such a thing, I would camp put at the dealer waiting on one to come in.

  • @robertg9514
    @robertg9514 Місяць тому +11

    I had a 67 CJ5 with the dauntless 225 V6 with 488 finals and a warn overdrive. It was simple, economical, and a blast to drive, it’s only weakness being the normally aspirated carburetor. Small like the short-cut, and when you washed it, you did the interior with the pressure washer just like the exterior. Oh and it got 25 mpg. Just start printing that very same model with an EFI upgrade, disc brakes and a double reservoir master cylinder.

    • @rufusmacck3712
      @rufusmacck3712 12 днів тому +1

      I had a 1968 with the same engine , overdrive and gear set up. I seem to remember I only got 13-16 mpg. What was I doing wrong? Remember they only a had 10 gal tank. I always thought the driveline drum type emergency brake was something that should be brought back. It worked great. I later put disc brakes front and rear, full floating rear axle, Dana 44 in the front, 4 speed with granny low and a twin stick on the Dana 18 ( like the first one had). Wish I had that CJ today. I still have a brand new Warn overdrive in the box. I burned one up and never forgot to check the tranny oil after that!

  • @tomcurran8470
    @tomcurran8470 Місяць тому +7

    Just checked out Jeep prices, wow! This Roxor is the real Jeep. Mahindra tractors are beasts. I have a Solis tractor made in India and it is a beast also. Everything heavy duty.
    I had an IH Scout when I was a kid, no power steering, no power brakes, no gear synch, 4 cylinder that wouldn't go past 50 mph, low gearing...that was an SUV.

  • @juanthelawnmowerthief1641
    @juanthelawnmowerthief1641 Місяць тому +202

    Needs a manual transmission and keep the solid axels!

    • @funpolice8128
      @funpolice8128 Місяць тому +1

      Axle. Axle. Axle. It’s called an Axle.

    • @barrya.6212
      @barrya.6212 Місяць тому

      Don't get the manual with a 4X ....imagine halfway up steep hill and start struggling / slipping....then having to navigate in that milisecond situation with engine bogging in 1st because one wasn't quick enough to clutch it....then backwards down the hill you go out of control....

    • @is6566
      @is6566 Місяць тому +6

      You don’t drive manual for sure. 😃 The break is included in manual Jeeps too.

    • @andrewdriver3318
      @andrewdriver3318 Місяць тому +9

      @@barrya.62121. There is a pedal next to the clutch called a "brake" that will handle that. 2. manual transmissions in an off-road vehicle has been the standard for decades 3. vehicles don't usual roll backwards while still in gear, especially in the low gear ranges of an off-road vehicle.

    • @sbcbaits994
      @sbcbaits994 Місяць тому +2

      Anyone who advocates for a manual transmission doesn’t off-road. Period haha.

  • @thegodfreyspecial423
    @thegodfreyspecial423 Місяць тому +217

    Jeep needs to look at the global market: Jimny. 4 Cylinder N/A, small size, etc. It could sell in international markets and would be a hit in US/Canada.

    • @theeconomist100
      @theeconomist100 Місяць тому +2

      suzuki exit the NA market.

    • @agonefire
      @agonefire Місяць тому +22

      These small cars aren’t sold here bc of crippling safety and pollution regulations.

    • @jumboshrimps4498
      @jumboshrimps4498 Місяць тому +13

      We had small SUVs in the US. Just look up the sales numbers, Americans don't want them. We just say we do.

    • @angeloplanes8497
      @angeloplanes8497 Місяць тому +1

      Almost nobody wants that. If given the option of 4 cylinder and small V8 like the old 318 5.2L, people would choose the V8 in a CJ-5 sized vehicle.

    • @agonefire
      @agonefire Місяць тому +6

      @@jumboshrimps4498 BC the automakers have to jack up the prices to cover the costs of complying with our regulations. At that point yes a customer is gonna spend a few grand more for a larger vehicle w a V8. If they were sold as is, they would be $10-20k and tons of people would buy them.

  • @rickk7332
    @rickk7332 Місяць тому +5

    Reminds me of my 1978 CJ5… Bare Bones, V8 and 3-speed manual… Rolled it over January 1979… Seat belt and roll bar saved my life… two or three years later the government advised that they were subject to rolling over… Lucky me.

  • @indridcold8433
    @indridcold8433 Місяць тому +11

    I drive a shortened, two door, affordable Wrangler. It is an ancient 1997 Jeep Wrangler that I bought in 1996. She was such a baby when we started our long journey together. But, mine has a 5 speed manual transmission and an AMC 242ci I6 engine. She has heat. She had power steering, booster brake, electronic ignition, port fuel injection, lights, soft top, soft doors, that is it. My dear RMS Stargazer now has 446,000 miles and climbing. I love you Stargazer. I love you forever.

    • @msmith2016
      @msmith2016 Місяць тому +2

      Forget the jeep - I want your time machine!

    • @indridcold8433
      @indridcold8433 Місяць тому +3

      @@msmith2016 The Timebender is hidden in a cave, in an American national park. I used it last about 2022 to return to Lanulose to get important items and return to 2019 to stop human extinction. Obviously, my strategy worked. 2022 passed again and most humans are still alive with a time paradox mostly avoided. The Timebender must be used with great care and consideration of the effects it could have on reality. I had to spend 42 cycles to learn how to operate it and how to use it responsibly.

    • @natew.-victoryorvalhalla4571
      @natew.-victoryorvalhalla4571 Місяць тому +1

      I had that EXACT same Jeep, but it had A/C too and of all the Jeeps I've owned, (which is SO many. I LOVE Jeeps) that was without question my FAVORITE Jeep. I miss That thing everyday. Every other Jeep I had after that, just never could quite match that TJ. In my personal opinion, that was the best Jeep they ever made. I feel your loss. I'd give up any car, truck or Jeep I've ever owned to get that one back. My name for that Jeep was Sherianna. Named it after my super hot girlfriend who was the "one that got away". Amazing how they both ended up being "the one that got away." I was so dumb to sell that for a newer one. I fell for the marketing hype of the Rubicon Sherianna was FAR superior Jeep by far. I had a Dana 60 in the rear with an electronic locker and a Dana 44 in the front with a full-time custom made quarter turn locker. The way it worked is for every time the free spinning tire turned 1 rotation, the other tire would turn 1/4 of a rotation. That way you didn't get the chirping when you went sound corners but you had that extra traction when you needed it, and since it was all mechanical and not air or electric, it never failed. Oh, and of course it was a manual. I think ALL wranglers should always only be manual. You just have so much more control off- road with a manual than an automatic..

  • @Iberian247
    @Iberian247 Місяць тому +122

    The interior is the best part. No screens or electronic whizz bang features to glitch out after you pay it off.

    • @JamesSmullins
      @JamesSmullins Місяць тому +8

      It will end up with a screen as they said due to backup camera being required but it can be a simple screen that only shows camera and can be small.

    • @Iberian247
      @Iberian247 Місяць тому +3

      @@JamesSmullins true, even so, a simple screen or camera would be easy to replace in the future if needed since it’s not responsible for running any other systems.

    • @xXGMCrazyXx
      @xXGMCrazyXx Місяць тому +4

      @@Iberian247Since they have to put a backup camera in place I would much rather have it included into the rear view mirror like some other vehicles. Much sleeker and simpler than a full dash screen

    • @user-dw1ls3rp1l
      @user-dw1ls3rp1l Місяць тому +1

      I'd for sure put some high back seats in there.

    • @SAR1967Medic
      @SAR1967Medic Місяць тому +1

      Still too many computers...

  • @Shadrach92
    @Shadrach92 Місяць тому +151

    Needs to be a NA 4/manual.

    • @Wrangzilla
      @Wrangzilla Місяць тому +1

      I’ll take the V6 like in the video. But an I4 would be ok

    • @cr9953
      @cr9953 Місяць тому +13

      4cyl Diesel with a 5 speed Manual would be alot better

    • @weegeemike
      @weegeemike Місяць тому +4

      Take the turbos off the 3.0 Hurricane and give it an honest traditional Jeep inline 6 as a callback to the beloved 4.0L

  • @toddgilman9476
    @toddgilman9476 Місяць тому +5

    YAY! They recreated the CJ7 (I know it's not really close, but it's got them CJ vibes)! Goodness I miss the world without screens in my dash...

  • @dangalow3793
    @dangalow3793 28 днів тому +1

    It looks like a 2024 CJ-5 and I'm here for it! My dad had a red 78, inline 6 when I was in diapers. Got rid of it before I even knew what vehicles were. This scratches a huge nostalgia itch for me.

  • @hooptietime4427
    @hooptietime4427 Місяць тому +68

    Bare bones minimum equipment but Jeep will still justify charging $60,000 for it.

    • @crazysoundman
      @crazysoundman Місяць тому +1

      not jeep, stellantis

    • @diegoroswell302
      @diegoroswell302 Місяць тому

      Seriously? $60k? Unreal

    • @DC-rl4rp
      @DC-rl4rp Місяць тому

      When Stall-antis🇺🇸 says…yes…your stupid enough to buy EV..and bail us out in our upcoming too big to fail tax bailout..surely you will Pay more for Less🤷‍♂️🤢🤮

    • @stonefox9124
      @stonefox9124 Місяць тому

      🤣 I was going to say that! "20yr prediction this is what $80,000 gets u for a new vehicle"

  • @scottbrown173
    @scottbrown173 Місяць тому +41

    This is the formula that has made the flat fender jeeps of the past so desirable almost 70 years later. This would be such a great short distance daily driver!!!

  • @robertgolden1580
    @robertgolden1580 День тому

    Jeep needs to listen to its fans/customers and build this with the same running gear and swaybar as the Rubicon! Keep up the good work TFL.

  • @44240xtp
    @44240xtp Місяць тому +2

    I always loved the old CJ3B hi hood. This styling is cool as the 3B.
    Dana 44s with lockers and a granny gear transmission. 33 x 12.5 inch tires will work.

  • @HenryThe2ndAnimator
    @HenryThe2ndAnimator Місяць тому +45

    It's literally a CJ5 throwback and I LOVE ITTTTT ❤️❤️

  • @albertodiazpr
    @albertodiazpr Місяць тому +63

    Jeep please, build this and take my money! This is the real meaning of a Jeep! ❤❤❤ You can name it "Wrangler Classic"!

    • @icedout2322
      @icedout2322 Місяць тому +2

      I like the short cut moniker , fits pretty good I think.

    • @hoonyfan2924
      @hoonyfan2924 Місяць тому +4

      More like classic CJ

    • @Mark-yy2py
      @Mark-yy2py Місяць тому +1

      I would think they would be successful, however, it would be at the expense of the overpriced wranglers in stock

    • @kananimiranda3376
      @kananimiranda3376 Місяць тому +1

      CJ 2.0.

    • @BrisLS1
      @BrisLS1 Місяць тому

      Why not just name it what it is "CJ". If you are too young, Google it.

  • @samadams7467
    @samadams7467 Місяць тому

    I love it! Reminds me of my old 78 CJ-7. Automatic, Quadratrac, low range, emergency drive, and I rode it three seasons with that bikini top. It was bright red, too, with 30x10.5 tires.

  • @Juan-rj6kk
    @Juan-rj6kk Місяць тому

    Like it. 1948 Willys flat fender, Buick v6 alum block, etc.
    Daily driver in 90s
    More good memories than any other for many of us.
    I Hope this concept goes to market.

  • @chrisbullard5901
    @chrisbullard5901 Місяць тому +59

    Give this an option package for a “computer delete”, using a fully mechanical diesel, a 6 speed manual, a true mechanical transfer case, and a PTO to run equipment, and Jeep could easily lower the markup by fulfilling tons of international fleet vehicle orders in developing nations!

    • @SAR1967Medic
      @SAR1967Medic Місяць тому +4

      Canada is fast on our way to becoming a "developing nation"... send a couple our way please...

    • @DCBChump
      @DCBChump Місяць тому +6

      Mechanical diesels are no longer legal on new vehicles.

    • @patrickbledsoe2176
      @patrickbledsoe2176 Місяць тому

      Yea that on point

    • @MJorgy5
      @MJorgy5 Місяць тому +1

      It'd never pass emissions in the US.

    • @WagonTrails
      @WagonTrails Місяць тому +1

      Uncle Sam says.....NO!

  • @Wrangzilla
    @Wrangzilla Місяць тому +38

    A swing out tire carrier with the fold down tailgate would be nice.

  • @calgreco8607
    @calgreco8607 4 дні тому

    I use to run my yj naked like that in 92. Fast forward to 2021 JL 2dr in Snazzberry Pearl. My wife lost interest so I sold my truck with intentions to make that into a naked runner but there was just no way without devaluing the vehicle so I sold it. This is exactly my idea of a Jeep. I would hope all the electronics and seats would be waterproof! A New 3 valve 4 cylinder no turbo with a 5 speed manual.

  • @tomwilkinson6102
    @tomwilkinson6102 Місяць тому +1

    I have a Roxor and LOVE it! But I would trade it in a heart beat if Jeep was selling this setup with a little diesel with 100 HP 33” tires, 488 gears and a true 5 speed manual transmission.

  • @nadrojfan
    @nadrojfan Місяць тому +26

    The best physical feature is the pre 1992 roll bar with the downward slanted rear bar. Awesome! 👌
    Half doors and a soft top are a must for basic weather protection. Give us a super reliable, torquey straight six instead of an overhead cam motor. And, of course, a manual transmission. Aside from those things, this could be a home run if they can just keep it simple!

  • @daftboy11
    @daftboy11 Місяць тому +35

    The Jeep people want.
    The Jeep Stelantis more than likely won’t make.
    If they did it would need crash protection features and they would probably sell it starting around $35k.

  • @josephfox2302
    @josephfox2302 Місяць тому

    Reminds me of my CJ5 I had in the late 70s. Stationed at Ft. Ord, Ca, my 4 banger, manual transmission would routinely spank the much heavier, v8 automatics in hill climb and true off roading. Would buy one again!

  • @rogerf7265
    @rogerf7265 Місяць тому +1

    Now imagine what you could build yourself with $35K. This really makes me regret getting rid of 47 CJ2A that I had a total of around $6K in. I bought it with a SBC and Muncie M20 in front of the Dana 18 which also had an original Warn Overdrive. I added Saginaw steering, boxed the frame, installed 3.15:1 low range gearset, replaced all of the worn out leaf springs with SuperLift springs and shocks and put it on 35" tires. Upgraded to cooling system and rewired the whole thing. It did everything that I ever asked of it and never left me stranded.

    • @deepbludude4697
      @deepbludude4697 Місяць тому +1

      I built a similar CJ2A except with a pinto 4 banger in it loved that ole thing...

  • @mikecon7634
    @mikecon7634 Місяць тому +96

    The new CJ5. Sweet

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 Місяць тому +6

      This is definitely the size of a CJ7 not 5

    • @yaboidustin2447
      @yaboidustin2447 Місяць тому +1

      ​@mattbrew11 can't get much smaller though tbf. Modern jeeps are oddly huge

    • @cleetismcdougall5425
      @cleetismcdougall5425 Місяць тому +3

      @@yaboidustin2447Willy’s jeeps are small. Roxor is making them now.

    • @cr9953
      @cr9953 Місяць тому +1

      ​@cleetismcdougall5425 love my 2020 Roxor. Used to have a CJ

    • @cleetismcdougall5425
      @cleetismcdougall5425 Місяць тому +1

      @@cr9953 I use to have a Willy’s CJ3B. Extremely practical vehicle for farm/ranch use and recreational off-road use. I was really impressed with Roxor’s offerings.

  • @user-gh1wd7pi3l
    @user-gh1wd7pi3l Місяць тому +38

    The short cut is basically a modernized CJ or YJ even.
    Jeep has been on a decades long trend of physical expansion. While it’s clearly been a huge success, the original size Jeep is still very exceptional for off road and daily driving applications.
    Obviously this will be a harder sell to a family or an overlander, but all other purchasers should be enticed by the reduced cost and incredible capability. I had a YJ in high school and that thing was incredible. Sure there’s compromises, but it had charm and character that can’t be replaced. A new, shortened, and affordable jeep are very long overdue

  • @anthonygray333
    @anthonygray333 Місяць тому +2

    Reminds me of the CJ-5’s I drove in the 70s and 80s.

  • @xa9131
    @xa9131 Місяць тому

    I have 63 cj 5… all black with a 327 sm block ….two door… just like that … I love it!!!!

  • @bigt4135
    @bigt4135 Місяць тому +83

    They need to make this with no computer, no cameras, manual only, $25k.

    • @Wrangzilla
      @Wrangzilla Місяць тому +26

      Cameras are federally mandated. Along with a ton of other stupid things that add to the final cost.

    • @johnboydTx
      @johnboydTx Місяць тому +2

      Dare to Dream of a perfect Jeep.

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 Місяць тому +9

      They couldn’t even do modern fuel injection or fuel pumps without computers be serious

    • @desert4seat
      @desert4seat Місяць тому +1

      @@Wrangzilla True, but i bet they could figure out how to make the mandates very cheap and removable. Like cheap crappy camera with external harness that can be removed and thrown away with little effort. etc

    • @johnboydTx
      @johnboydTx Місяць тому +3

      @@mattbrew11 You could??
      But they can't 🤔🤷 ..
      Government Restrictions..😢
      Happy Motoring ✌️🤠

  • @timothygreen7708
    @timothygreen7708 Місяць тому +39

    I am 59 years old I was raised in the mountains of West Virginia driving 1960 and 70 and 80 model Jeeps one of the best mountain vehicles ever made and hell yes I would buy one, also used to drive to K5 blazers but in my opinion Jeeps are more nimble and a lot of fun thank you for posting the video and getting my hopes up. 💥🔥💪🏁

  • @RomeoWhiskey692
    @RomeoWhiskey692 Місяць тому

    I have always said this type of vehicle is what we really want .
    I drove my Samurai until it was worn completely out .
    I loved it .
    The Willys Jeep was our ideal when I was growing up .
    It still is .

  • @claytonkeeney8911
    @claytonkeeney8911 Місяць тому +2

    I would like to see a striped down 2 door truck also, would need to be cheap reliable and capable for some work but also play.

  • @larrywest1839
    @larrywest1839 Місяць тому +11

    Reminds of my old CJ 5. When I bought it, it had no doors or top. When winter came, you just put on a snowmobile suit. I would buy one.

  • @CarnutMM
    @CarnutMM Місяць тому +84

    That is the Jeep I want. CJ5 throwback.

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 Місяць тому +2

      7

    • @davidwarren3433
      @davidwarren3433 Місяць тому

      5@@mattbrew11

    • @CarnutMM
      @CarnutMM Місяць тому +2

      @@mattbrew11 CJ5. It’s a shortened CJ7

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 Місяць тому +1

      @@CarnutMM its a shortened JK which is much longer than a CJ7 to begin with

    • @CarnutMM
      @CarnutMM Місяць тому +2

      @@mattbrew11 it’s todays equivalent to a CJ5. If a regular 2 door JK is equivalent to a CJ7,

  • @michaelwhiteman6909
    @michaelwhiteman6909 Місяць тому

    Reminds me of my younger days with my '72 CJ5 plain and simple. Love it

  • @randyferraro3020
    @randyferraro3020 Місяць тому +1

    I gave up on the idea of buying a new Jeep. All I ever wanted from a Jeep is a small, capable 4x4 at an affordable price. Give me a simple roll bar, bikini top, a manual transmission, and the great outdoors. I never needed air-conditioning or power anything. This is the only post TJ Jeep I have seen that offers any interest to me. I loved it the first time I saw it years ago. If it had a manual transmission, and I was in the market for a new vehicle, this would be at the top of my list.

  • @iTrove
    @iTrove Місяць тому +15

    33”s and foldable mirrors… The 2 liter diesel would be grand. Seriously would consider this vs all the bloat and expensive stuff. Perfect for a towable w/ RV’s

  • @sledge7583
    @sledge7583 Місяць тому +11

    Just bring back the 1971 CJ 5, 225 V6, 4-1 transfer case, 44 rear, 30 front axels, auto transmission, soft top and doors . I ran this with a granny low turbo 350 transmission and an overdrive off the transfer case with 4-88 gears and 33 inch tires, Detroit locker in the rear and a lock right up front. IT CLIMBED WALLS. This was in 1995.....

  • @carolynbentley
    @carolynbentley Місяць тому

    Oh man, shades of my 1973 daisy yellow CJ5 bought new through the Navy Exchange in the Philippines for $3860 full price! 'Drove Imogene, Red Cone, etc. and all over western Colorado; we're now in a 2016 JKU. We've wondered if a concept vehicle like this might show up one day. Great idea, and you're right, they need to keep the price down. Thanks for this video, 'brings me back to a good place. Great channel, been following for a couple of years! We were at the 2023 EJS vendor show; fun time!

  • @audrybella6405
    @audrybella6405 Місяць тому

    Awesome!!!! I must have one NOW!! Closest thing I've seen in 40 years to my 1974 Bronco.

  • @airmanohearn
    @airmanohearn Місяць тому +91

    All I hear them say is "What we really want is a Roxor!"

    • @cr9953
      @cr9953 Місяць тому +2

      Love my 2020 Roxor. Far more simple then this version

    • @edwardhoward4708
      @edwardhoward4708 Місяць тому +1

      It’s true! That’s what I want! Can’t drive it on the road though, here in VA.

    • @thomaspike1475
      @thomaspike1475 Місяць тому +3

      A street legal Roxor

    • @cr9953
      @cr9953 Місяць тому

      My roxor is street legal. Just not highway legal

    • @thedocisin3204
      @thedocisin3204 Місяць тому +6

      I heard them say "What we really want is a Willys". I've had a few over the years. Small lift, pizza cutter tires and it'll go anywhere.

  • @Icewolf2oo3
    @Icewolf2oo3 Місяць тому +17

    Wrangler Classic, basically do what some companies do, take an older model, put modern components in it and sell it cheaper. As much as I dislike Apple, what they do with iPhone SE is actually brilliant.

  • @brandonrock1269
    @brandonrock1269 Місяць тому

    It be super duper awesome if Jeep brings it to life. The production version will have to have doors, headrests, and may have smaller tires BUT A simple basic vehicle like this in the mid-20’s would be nice. Everything you need and nothing you don’t. Backup camera can go in the rear view mirror eliminating need for screens. What I’d like is the steering wheel controls gone too, the joystick type cruise control behind the wheel will work, a column shifter, and bench seat with a fold down arm-rest.

  • @rhlouis4128
    @rhlouis4128 Місяць тому

    My parents bought a CJ-5 in 1976, 6-cyl, 3-speed manual transmission, no A/C, with a soft top. I wish I had it now.

  • @ShaynePatton
    @ShaynePatton Місяць тому +7

    I'd like 31" or 33" tires. I really feel like 31" is a sweet spot for most applications (serious rock crawling or mudding being the exceptions). I'd like the option to get @ least a rear locker, but I probably wouldn't get it. 'lil "jump seats" in the back would be a cool option for the kiddos. Otherwise, if Jeep built this @ a $25k base price, I think LOTS of people would buy it.

  • @rokuth
    @rokuth Місяць тому +14

    Speaking of Suzuki, have you seen the latest Jimny? It has coil springs all around, 1.5L 4 cylinder, and now comes in a LWB version with 4 doors. And yes, they are still tiny compared to even the Shortcut.

    • @matthewsteiner7955
      @matthewsteiner7955 Місяць тому

      Great little buggies, great little prices, but not for sale in the US and not road legal in any state.

    • @djmaciiii
      @djmaciiii Місяць тому

      I've been looking for a Jeep type vehicle in Taiwan. They don't sell Jeep. The Bronco is not offered. Cant find any old FJ40s. They do sell the Jimny but no removable roof.

  • @bryanhuehnken7171
    @bryanhuehnken7171 3 дні тому

    This reminds me of the CJ 5 I had back in '78. shortly after I bought it they were banned because of "roll over" problems. Then right after that Suzuki Samurai,s got imported which also had "roll over" problems.

  • @MJorgy5
    @MJorgy5 Місяць тому +1

    No headrests- definitely a concept car, but they knocked it out of the park. Super cool.

  • @MavadoKen
    @MavadoKen Місяць тому +11

    This is precisely what I'd be looking for in an offroad vehicle. Keep it Simple, Stellantis.

  • @Mr.Deko86
    @Mr.Deko86 Місяць тому +14

    Absolutely beautiful. I call these types of artworks: complex simplicity. I love the the basic design. Everything you need to hit the trails.

  • @annelarrybrunelle3570
    @annelarrybrunelle3570 Місяць тому

    Reinvention of the CJ-5, more or less. Mid 60s, could be had with a Buick V6 and alternator. Not sure whether an automatic was offered, but adaptors were readily available, and JC Whitney had almost every accessory you could want for it.

  • @jkxelor1295
    @jkxelor1295 Місяць тому +604

    Love it. Pray they don’t put an electric motor in and turn it into a golf cart.

    • @directorjustin
      @directorjustin Місяць тому +37

      I'd rather Jeep make a competitive Wrangler EV.

    • @jkxelor1295
      @jkxelor1295 Місяць тому +58

      @@directorjustin enjoy the kool aid

    • @magicianshobby
      @magicianshobby Місяць тому +59

      EVs are better off-road. Lower center of gravity. Much better low end torque. Way easier to control in sketchy situations.

    • @jkxelor1295
      @jkxelor1295 Місяць тому +40

      @@magicianshobby I don’t talk to short bus people

    • @Spisters
      @Spisters Місяць тому +14

      Ha, this guy doesn’t wheel.

  • @aaronyojimbo1753
    @aaronyojimbo1753 Місяць тому +9

    Yes, and flat metal dash and an analog speedo in the middle.

    • @SAR1967Medic
      @SAR1967Medic Місяць тому

      THIS.... NO computers... NO ABS... NO "electronic stability control"... NO airbags...

  • @renz1013
    @renz1013 Місяць тому

    As a filipino I see this as great news and if ever planned to be sold internationally I'm looking forward to seeing it more on the streets and adapted into local use, becoming a more adaptable and modern version of the current jeeps, jeep looks alikes, replicas, and jeepneys that we have which are still to this day mostly inspired by the old cj2 and m36 variants.

  • @SynthiaVan
    @SynthiaVan Місяць тому

    Hell yeah, that's closer to what I drive now than the newer stuff. An LJ with a bikini top, half doors, and 31" tires is my daily driver.

  • @samebert4344
    @samebert4344 Місяць тому +4

    So many companies are shooting for those cheap vehicles to stay competitive in this market. Jeep and the Chrysler family are in a unique position with that 3.6 engine, it's been around so long that the R&D costs we're covered years ago. So they can put it in anything without adding the design of a new engine to the cost of the vehicle, definitely saving you thousands on your final invoice. Not sure how many other brands have a viable engine that's so long in the tooth but still in production.
    Overall, I hope something like this comes to fruition. That Toyota truck they're talking about and something like this that is fun to drive and nimble and capable thanks to a light weight, while having everything you need and nothing you don't is just such an obvious path to go down. Hoping we see more like this.

  • @bigmike8847
    @bigmike8847 Місяць тому +21

    What's the possibility of Jeep wanting to compete with Roxor or Mahindra in the UTV truck market?

    • @cr9953
      @cr9953 Місяць тому

      Mahindra makes the Roxor.

    • @chir0pter
      @chir0pter Місяць тому

      Or the new super-UTVs from Polaris etc

  • @dongreenlee675
    @dongreenlee675 12 днів тому

    I would absolutely buy one of these, reminds me a lot of the 1966 Ford Bronco I bought and my son now has sitting in his garage! Doors off, straight 6, 3 on the tree, 4:11 gears....so yeah sign me up!

  • @hawkinss75
    @hawkinss75 Місяць тому

    I remember going to the auto show in 98 in Salt Lake City. They added “14 inches” to the normal two-door and added two doors. The prototype was called the 4-door Jeep Dakar….

  • @cjhockmuth8510
    @cjhockmuth8510 Місяць тому +5

    Jeep if you're listening, this is what I want. My favorite Jeep in the world is my TJ. The only way that I would ever replace my TJ is with something like this. Make it and I will buy it!

  • @V8AmericanMuscleCar
    @V8AmericanMuscleCar Місяць тому +24

    Finally a Jeep from Jeep. 😉

    • @Carl...CRL...
      @Carl...CRL... Місяць тому +3

      With a fiat engine

    • @cr9953
      @cr9953 Місяць тому +1

      Jeep haven't made A real jeep since the CJ.

    • @mails5054
      @mails5054 Місяць тому +1

      @@cr9953 the tj

    • @fastdude2002
      @fastdude2002 Місяць тому +1

      I own a CJ7 and a TJ and I agree, the TJ is the last true Jeep.

    • @mails5054
      @mails5054 Місяць тому +1

      @@fastdude2002 jk arnt bad tho i have one, just is very different than a tj, its closer to a jl

  • @danbeardsley8919
    @danbeardsley8919 Місяць тому

    I see that the Shortcut was introduced in 2016 at the Easter Jeep event as a concept vehicle which Jeep does every year (display and drive concept vehicles). Are they waiting for a certain favorable marketing time to put it into production? That was 8 years ago! I also remember that Jeeps CJ series had some issues with rollovers and introduced Wrangler which does not have that potential flaw. Wider, I guess. The Shortcut might also be wider, and I hope it is put into production because I miss the bare bones CJs.

  • @davehill7484
    @davehill7484 Місяць тому

    Brings back memories of the old CJ5,, if jeep builds this I would most certainly buy one for sure 👍

  • @yigamiyashiro
    @yigamiyashiro Місяць тому +8

    I want a small off roader!! I bought a TJ because it was “light” but would have much rather had the Suzuki Jimny if available. 😢

    • @cr9953
      @cr9953 Місяць тому

      Look into the Roxor

  • @Wicked_RotF30
    @Wicked_RotF30 Місяць тому +15

    They should offer the classic 4.0L in it

    • @JF-lt5zc
      @JF-lt5zc Місяць тому

      Is that engine even in production any more?

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 Місяць тому

      It won’t meet emissions standards and the CAFE fuel mileage hit would cost $$$$$. The pentastar is perfectly fine for this application

    • @The_Samsquantch
      @The_Samsquantch Місяць тому +2

      @@mattbrew11 Was about to say the Pentistar has been refined to a point that it would be the best replacement. The newer gens are pretty bulletproof and they give more HP and torque than the i6. I love my i6 in my XJ but I think a modern engine would be best. Now if they threw a hurricane engine in this thing.... I wouldn't complain.

    • @Dartingleopard
      @Dartingleopard Місяць тому

      ​@mattbrew11 The Hurricane would be better, as it is an I6, and turbocharged so it would be quicker

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 Місяць тому

      @@Dartingleopard while I agree the performance would be better but that vehicle is super lightweight and the v6 weighs less than the hurricane and is cheaper and less complex than the 2.0T. People forget how capable TJs were with a lot less power but the same weight as this Jeep

  • @JHGC80
    @JHGC80 Місяць тому

    I immediately thought of the series Tropical Heat and detective Nick Slaughter in his Jeep CJ. Only the color of the car was blue. I loved the series and the car.

  • @3rdpig
    @3rdpig Місяць тому

    Looks like a modernized 72 CJ-5 I owned. Being a tall guy I upgraded to a CJ-7 for the increased leg room.

  • @jestucker2268
    @jestucker2268 Місяць тому +18

    So... it's a (semi) modern CJ5 - In an era of $100,000+ Gladiators, this would be a nice change of pace

    • @chuckcribbs3398
      @chuckcribbs3398 Місяць тому

      My Rubicon manual Gladiator was $46k. Where do you get $100k?

    • @stonefox9124
      @stonefox9124 Місяць тому

      Was going to say, mine is Gladiator Sport at $42k but that was just before the market dropped $10k

    • @stonefox9124
      @stonefox9124 Місяць тому

      I feel Gladiators are $10-$15 over priced but in a world where new is $40-$60k over it's best option...

  • @long-jeep
    @long-jeep Місяць тому +8

    you had me at _Dana 40s!_

  • @redracerproductions
    @redracerproductions Місяць тому

    You're basically describing the current Jimny which are super cool. You're also describing a modern TJ. I have an '04 Rubicon and love it so I have what you're describing minus modern electronics.

  • @jacob_d_f
    @jacob_d_f Місяць тому

    TBH I would take one with more of a summer cruiser build. perfect for cruising to the lake and back on a nice sunny day. give it a bench seat too

  • @KiegKillsReality
    @KiegKillsReality Місяць тому +4

    I actually love how much of a throw back this is! Even has the Plaid print seats! They better not screw this up.

  • @anthropicandroid4494
    @anthropicandroid4494 Місяць тому

    Uncle Tony is using the '96 variant of this lightweight+big engine combo to hot-rod. It's a killer trim

  • @fastmoverfixer2089
    @fastmoverfixer2089 5 днів тому

    Looks little like my old CJ7! all it really need is 4 speed stick with a granny1st gear, t-300 transfer case and pasi-trac in dana 44 axles

  • @angelmatos5987
    @angelmatos5987 Місяць тому +6

    I really like this concept. I hope they put it into production. I would be one of many buyers. This reminds me of CJ7.

  • @680ecks
    @680ecks Місяць тому +33

    Don't know about the short part but just a small stripper jeep . The two door is small enough just get rid of the junk and computers

    • @jacobwasher1894
      @jacobwasher1894 Місяць тому +6

      I disagree that the two door is already small enough. With the start of the JK the wrangler has felt broad shouldered and cumbersome to me. For a daily commuter the larger footprint and added cabin space are definitely nice. I daily a 2dr 2012. But off road in tight trails this little thing will absolutely rock. To me it’s a breath of fresh air with a nice helping of nostalgia. Now we just have to wait and see if they build it and manage to keep it 25k or (hopefully but not likely) less

    • @63Imp283
      @63Imp283 Місяць тому +1

      Good point!

    • @stonefox9124
      @stonefox9124 Місяць тому

      If these clowns would just get rid of computers u could shave $40k off real quick...

  • @OldManJimmy1
    @OldManJimmy1 Місяць тому

    I own a 2013 jeep Rubicon 2 door and this is defiantly something I'd be interested in buying if they make it. Sure wish the inline six would be an option on this jeep too. Oh, and you have to have a standard transmission for me to drive it.

  • @mister-v-3086
    @mister-v-3086 Місяць тому

    Back around 1960, whoever owned Jeep back then offered The Jeep Universal - a stripped-down CJ-5: no roof, doors or back seat for a flat $5,000. They offered this model for about 3 years, if I remember correctly. And now you guys offer it again. Cool!
    I've noticed this, too, about Jeep Corporation; they like re-introducing old AMC products, sissified for today's tender, sensitive clientelle: the CJ-6 came back as a 4-door; the Jeep Scrambler -- well, it's still a pickup back on a CJ front, even 50 years later, regardless of what they call it. Maybe we'll see the resurrection of the J-10 pickup truck line, or even the Jeepster Commando.
    What do you guys think??

  • @jefferyjackson6935
    @jefferyjackson6935 Місяць тому +3

    Love the concept! A reminiscent CJ5. I think a stripped down 2 door Gladiator would be great. Call it the Scrambler!

  • @ThatsWhatSheSaid75
    @ThatsWhatSheSaid75 Місяць тому +4

    That is pretty exciting and cool! Hoping Tommy is right with a starting price of $25K....but Nathan's $35K guess is probably more inflationary period correct.

  • @Buddytrager82
    @Buddytrager82 Місяць тому

    This is the Jeep i would buy for overlanding. Stripped down and affordable. Reminds me of the CJ5 and 7 models.

  • @gilbertferguson1685
    @gilbertferguson1685 Місяць тому +7

    Love the plaid seats. Cool looking rig. Build it. 😎

  • @jnmc-vx4fw
    @jnmc-vx4fw Місяць тому +5

    Make it a manual, no power windows, no frills, optional doors, full roll bar , full soft top only, spare tire in the bed or optional seat

    • @krisorendorff
      @krisorendorff Місяць тому

      The disabled ♿ community, would appreciate an automatic transmission

  • @bobbysenterprises3220
    @bobbysenterprises3220 19 днів тому

    Id like to see this side by side and weighed next to a tj.
    I was excited. Till I realized i could still replace my 3rd tj with a really nice one and go through it replacing wear parts for less money and actualy get more useful vehicle

  • @profit-engine8001
    @profit-engine8001 Місяць тому

    Love it! Reminds me of my 1976 CJ5

  • @antoniusp3295
    @antoniusp3295 Місяць тому +4

    Kudos if they make a fully-enclosed pedestrian version as a "pack-mate" to it. Make it a spiritual marriage of the old-school XJ and TJ ideas; have a small family of affordable vehicles on the shared platform.

  • @pernell4351
    @pernell4351 Місяць тому +4

    All they gotta do is just bring back the original Willis Jeep that actual size from the 40s to the 60s just bring that size back with the four turbo in it. That’s the perfect size you put down in the $20k You have a lot of people buy it.

    • @SAR1967Medic
      @SAR1967Medic Місяць тому

      NOW you got me... TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!