When I covered this trial we were all saying we hope you will do an episode on this 😍 You did an excellent job, as always ❤ Lead detective Jess Bethel (who is in the room with Letecia in this footage) resigned after this - the case and dealing with Lie-Tecia must've been incredibly disturbing. 😢 I'm going to send this to former detective Bethel, crime analyst Kevin Clark and DA Michael Allen. ❤
I appreciated how caring you were in streaming the trial, and I have recommended your playlist to others who were asking. How do you have so much energy to cover so many cases?
As a reward for a job well done, TBP will receive a complimentary audio of Lie-Tecia’s phone calls, you know, yada-yada-yada, with her then husband. Do not play audio around pets or those with sensitive hearing. Ear plugs are recommended but not included. 😮🙉 You’re welcome.😂
I sat in shock as Mark, who had no prior knowledge of the case, placed a bet that head trauma was likely a method of the murder after picking a single word “smash” from what most would consider a benign, unrelated comment about headphones. Head trauma was one of the many awful things that child suffered as he fought for his life. The reason this show has gained so much popularity, these guys are truly experts.
@@rfcbass6810 yep he could have said anything drowning, strangling, hit by a car, pushed off a cliff, poisoned/OD, smothered … the brutality was the beating he took before she got fed up and chose more permanent means.
Who even has notes to be interviewed by the police. Not suss atall 🧐 I fail to even take a shopping list to the shops. Bizarre behaviour from the start
@@Youknowyouknow101 So here’s something that happened to me a couple months back because (a) I noticed suspicious body language, where I live, (b) TBP, (c) a podcast I listen to in the car called My Favorite Murder, and (d) a book by Gavin DeBecker titled The Gift of Fear… Me…I usually have a list for grocery shopping or I’ll forget half the things I need (yeah…I’m old 😜). So I had my list on my phone and another list on paper from my husband. When I got to the store and parked-I like this particular store because it’s close, but the downside, it sometimes has dicey people in the parking lot hitting you up for money, so I’m cautious and I’m aware of my surroundings; right? This day I sat in my car for a couple minutes transferring my list to the paper and watched what was going on in the parking lot because I saw a man (dicey looking) politely harassing a woman based on their body language, facial expressions and larger distance between them, so I stayed a bit longer to watch and finish the story on my podcast. Turns out that the guy was begging for money (shocker), but on the occasion he would score cash, he would go and give it to a guy by the front door, he had a better vantage point to observe the cars coming into the lot, so it looked like he was directing then other field guy to the more expensive-looking cars or compliant-looking humans…so the guy in the field (lot) had a partner🙄. This is a new one for me! So then the parking lot guy went back out to the lot and hit up another young woman (without children). I only saw him targeting women during the time I was there. Welcome to South Florida, that’s what it’s like here on the regular. 🙄 So I left. But on the way, I called the store and told the manager what was going on in his parking lot and that he just lost my business because I was driving to another store where I wouldn’t be harassed. During the call, the store manager thanked me for letting him know, then told me that they’d been there before running the same game. I’m like: Dude, then keep an eye on your parking lot! That’s my little behavior observation story/crime tip for the day, y’all 🙃♥️😁 SSDGM
“Be as detailed as you can.” = the WORST thing you can say to Leticia Stauch if you want to walk away with your sanity. This is just the tip of the iceberg with this killer. Watching that trial was sheer insanity - just not the legal definition of insanity.
Every time I listen to one of your videos (which is OFTEN) I am remimded of exactly how incredible the brain is. You guys are so smart. I learn something every video. Thanks for your time, the dedication and love you have for the brain and body language and for sharing your knowledge. Hugs to all.
Scott, I feel your pain whenever you all cover a topic that involves horrible acts toward children. I appreciate your empathy on these most horrific subjects. You all demonstrate that it is possible to feel for humanity, and at the same time learn the neuroscience and behaviour analysis. Love you guys ❤
I’m glad you are covering her. She’s a real treat. That energy is off the charts! You can tell she ain’t right. She’s not focused on Gannon, it’s just the Leticia Show. I watched the entire trial and it was A LOT. She’s a murdering liar, child abuser and hardcore narcissist. I’m glad she’s never getting out of prison. Gannon Strong 💙💙💙
@tiffknox6158 I just watched the entire trial too and you’re right, it was A LOT lol. Forget the death penalty or life without, just sentence people to having to listen to LS in those phone calls and interviews. The crime rate would come to a screeching halt lol
When Chase said "Anyone over the age of 10 with an IQ over room temperature" I laughed so hard I nearly peed myself. That was the funniest thing I've heard all week. Thanks Chase.
Thank you!!!! I’ve been messaging you guys on all your social media platforms asking you to cover this excuse for a human being! I’ve followed this since it happened in 2020 and watched the whole trial and was dying to hear you guys speak on her! There is another interrogation video with the FBI after she had dumped poor Gannon and when she was actually arrested for his murder, please please please will you guys do that video as well 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼
When she takes her notes out she actually SAYS, "Let me check where we are in 'The { my } STORY' - Oh that's right.. Here!" And then off she goes... I mean... 😵💫
You guys are life savers, I'm at dialysis and thank you for coming on, I can watch you guys do ya thing while I get through this hard day, talking about 3 hours 45 minutes every other day. Now I will have a good treatment with good time. thanks for helping me get through the day.
Thank you for analyzing this woman! Her story has baffled me as to how she felt like she could get away with it! It doesn’t take much to see thru her bs!
This woman’s case/trial was the most unbelievable one I’ve watched yet. I was so glad when I saw your panel dissect her apart. This is only a crumb from a two layer cake. It’s totally worth diving into. Thanks! I really enjoy your channel!
I live in Colorado Springs, where Leticia lived, so this case is especially heart wrenching for me. It’s scary to know an absolute psychopath like her could have brushed shoulders with me!
Fun, unsolicited factoid that will freak you out ... 😉 There's an estimated average of at least 100 , active but not on anyone's radar, serial killers, at any given time, amd thats just in the US. And another fun factoid, is in your lifetime, in my life time, we will brush shoulders with an unknown or yet to be identified, serial killer, at least once or twice 😮 .... Un known serial killers, meaning actively, serialy killing yet unknown to police, MEANING law/authorities/feds don't even know there's a serial killer to be looking for 😬😳 That averages out to be there's at least 2 active but unknown serial killers IN EVERY STATE 😮 I DIDNT WANT TO KNOW ANY OF THAT so I shared it with you 😂😂😂😂
My two favorite takes from this video: (1) To paraphrase Mark, ‘Call 911 and then order takeout, as a general rule.’ 😂 (2)To quote Chase, “Children who grow up in unpredictable environments very often learn to be adaptable and flexible with the truth as a way to navigate chaos." 👏🏻 well done ALL
Gannon deserved so much more. He was a gorgeous and bright soul and has touched so many people. No one else deserves to be mentioned. You're missed Gannon 💙
11 yr old Gannon was beaten (including head trauma, as Mark guessed,) stabbed numerous times, then shot. This wasn't a moment of anger that went too far. This was a horrific murder with overwhelming hatred toward the child. The only glimmer of light to be had is that "Dr. Letitia Stauch" will never see the light of day again. If you watch the trial, watch when the dad Albert testifies. How manipulative she was to him is unbelievable. Then the recorded phone calls Al made with the FBI there to coach him... incredible. It's always about her innocence and not about Gannon. And let's not forget the bizarre interview with the media where they ask what message she has for Gannon and she says she can't wait for him to get home and prove all the haters wrong. OMG. She's dangerous and belongs where she is.
She took it out on him. In my opinion, she was bitter and resentful towards her husband and Gannon's mom. She hurt them by hurting that sweet little boy. Worse kind of monster..
Thanks, guys!!!♥️ Listening to her crumble on the phone with Al during their phone calls while he's being coached by the FBI was like witnessing the Wicked Witch of the West screeching, "I'm melting, meeeltinnng..." What an absolute HORROR of a human being. She smashed a full Monster energy drink can into a correction officer's face while being extradited back to Colorado from South Carolina after breaking free from her restraints so she could try to get out of a moving van going around 70 mph. She was flipping off witnesses in court. The judge threatened to secure her cuffs to a bolt under the table if she didn't stop. The judge's remarks to her before sentencing were PERFECT. He cried during Al & Landen's victim impact statements, which were so moving that I sobbed. RIP, Gannon.🌿💙
I did LOL at that one too!! She's too much! I watched the entire trial. Twice! I know this case back and forth. I'm so glad the BP is doing this. I hope they do more on her. There is soooooo much crazy material with this vile demon 👿
It's amazing how much of her history you're nailing! She does have a loooong history of lying and big lies at that. For example, she told her daughter that her father was murdered in a robbery when he actually died from OD
What stood out to me was when she said “I didn’t bring a gun downstairs with me or anything” That set red flags off in my head, because, no one said she did. This lead me to believe she did bring her gun downstairs with her. Now, knowing from the trial that she in fact shot Gannon, reenforces my theory that she did actually have a gun with her when she went downstairs. There was absolutely no reason for her to make sure to tell the officer that she didn’t bring a gun down with her, so I call BS on that statement
I’m pretty sure the whole guy in the house is a complete lie though. I think that’s kind of why she incorporated the gun into the lie because it’s some thing she used so she uses a little bit of truth with a lot of lie.
@@Brandylibra oh, yes for sure. It’s all completely fabricated. There was no man in the basement. What my point was, the mentioning of a gun, and random statement that she didn’t bring it down with her reminded me of my grandson saying “I didn’t eat a cookie” out of the blue. (He absolutely ate a cookie, lol). And Lie-tecia randomly bringing up the gun she supposedly didn’t have with her, like a toddler bringing up a cookie without a prompt to do so, was a red flag to me.
I watched the whole trial, Scott. You guys WILL BE adding her to your psycho videos soon. She’s highly malignant narcissistic. Gaslit her own daughter for years (really messing her up) This case is bizarre- you wouldn’t believe how violent she is (got her on camera)
Greg and panel, Laina is Gannon’s little sister. When she came home, Letitia sent her outside to play. Harley, whom was 17 at the time, came home a little after 4:30 (works at massage envy) she sent her (and told her to take Laina with her) to go buy cleaning supplies. They had previous plans to go out for sushi which Gannon did not like to do. She told the two girls that his stomach was hurting and he was staying home in bed. They went for sushi. That night Harley and Laina came down the stairs to see how he was, and she shuffled them away and back upstairs. I watched the trial and it’s insane how many times she changed the story. There was an FBI profiler that interviewed her that I think you guys would find interesting and would make a great part 2 on this video.
I had to chuckle..my daughter just walked by and heard this video playing and asked..Is she lying? I asked why and she said “she’s giving wayyyyy too much information “
Mark was spot on about the emphasis on "smash your head." This poor little boy had 4 blunt force injuries to his head that cracked his skull. She's a monster.
The times she is describing herself growing hit in the head, she is actually describing when she hit Gannon on the head several times to knock him out prior to stabbing him
my husband died after we had been married 10 years. I raised our 6 yr old dtr alone. i dated no one or went on any dates until she was 4 months shy of graduating high school. I could never believe that bringing another man around my dtr was a good idea. My parents didn’t even let us spend the night with people or have sleepovers. Daddy always said, most people are no dmn good and ya need to be cautious bout forming relationships with every “nice” person ya meet. That advice is what kept me focused on what’s necessary. At that time it was making sure i provided a stable ,safe n secure environment for us both. I have 2 dtrs and i’ve trained them both the same way. Some of the nicest people turn out to be just like this MENACE to society.
My hat off to you! This is the underlying issue with this case. The father married wife #2 and barley knows her. She's abusing the kids consistently while he works out of town frequently. After this cow is arrested for murder he's already remarried to wife #3. With a new baby. Gannon's little sister has now lived through all the chaos and trauma and what does he do? Spend time healing and comforting his daughter? No she has another new mommy and step sibling. Society accepts this as normal. He deserves his happiness. He's culpable for the death of his son. I've listened to his tapes during the time before they found Gannon. He knew she was unstable and violent. But leaves his vulnerable children in her care. The statics are very high that a step parent will hurt your child. It's not too much to ask people to put their lives on hold for a few years until their kids are grown? It's admirable that you cared more about your child than your loneliness.
@ajordan1976 I cannot agree with you more! I have huge issues with Al Stauch. His son is brutally murdered by his wife leaving a very young girl is exposed to all this trauma and his main priority is running off and getting remarried as fast as possible?!?!?!?! He made such a horrifically terrible judgment call on his last relationship that it cost his son his life and he doesn't hesitate for one second to evaluate his ability to judge character before exposing his remaining child to yet another new woman?!?!?! Unbelievable. Disgusting and unbelievable. Al Stauch is a terrible father imo and shouldn't have had or continue to have custody of his child(ren).
@@ajordan1976 You are exactly right, there is nothing wrong with telling adults they need to sacrifice being in a relationship for giving themselves 100% to their children. I know everyone is different but I've never been lonely a day in my 54 years. I've never experienced being lonely for companionship. I've always had plenty to do and I always enjoy what I'm doing. I enjoy being with my children and friends and I enjoy spending time with no one around. My life is my own and I choose to do exactly what I enjoy however, my children came first. To me that not only meant providing for them , it meant it was not time for me to be dating anyone. Many times children just cannot process the idea of a new parental addition to the family. Even if the person is great and isn't a problem. Children want the attention of their parents peridot. You can't really do that when trying to build a new relationship unless the newbie doesn't need much. I can't tell you how many times my dtr has called home and thanked me for not bringing a man to our home. Of course I'm always proud that my children are proud of me. She's a social worker therefore she sees the results of what parents do to their children for the sake of being in questionable or untimely relationships.
@@ghettoprincess_80 society is much harder on women who do this yet men are celebrated for adding another so-called "mother" to the house. It's equally unstable regardless of who does it.
@@ghettoprincess_80 thank you so much. I've not been popular in my opinion. Victim blaming was the most popular description. Fortunately I stand firm in my conviction concerning Gannon's safety and why he is no longer alive. I believe if we don't ask the hard questions about how this child wound up murdered. Then his death was in vain. You brought up several important points The fact that Al is sitting in a courtroom with 3 wives is mind boggling. That he trusts anyone is beyond me? I'm convinced he only wanted full custody so he didn't have to pay child support. The way he cosigned the parental alienation against Landon was a crime! Makes so angry for both Landon and Laina. This case is so sad. What makes it hard is was preventable. If only Al had his priorities straight. An eleven year old boy would be 14 now. But for some reason popular opinion is Al is a hero. 😡
1:57:24 She so perfectly illustrates how she feels about Gannon compared to her daughter. Even in a made up dangerous situation, she is saying she was more concerned about her daughter possibly coming home to the situation than the son in the arms of the attacker. That spoke volumes.
2:29 She says the day before he disappeared, they went hiking and Gannon had stomach problems and "pooped in his pants." When I heard that I assumed this was a young child - maybe 4 or 5. But he was 11. This makes me think he didn't really poop his pants and she just wants to humiliate him (his memory).
Exactly. She knew he was very embarrassed having dealt with bowel issues due to his prematurity. That bish brought up these issues repeatedly to HUMILIATE Gannon to the entire world!! Wasn't enough she painfully tortured and took his life.💙
I like how the one investigator got up and said she had to leave. She couldnt even stand the B.S. anymore. I bet the other dectective was thinking "oh please dont leave me in here by myself with her"
😂 And Lieticia was like "What? what do you mean you have to leave, I'm in the middle of my creative storytelling!!! How dare you??? What could be more important than me??? 😅😅😅
I really love you guys, and I appreciate your hard work, the free education you provide us with and the time you spend doing so! With that said, I can’t be the only person that really misses when you’d edit in the behaviors you’re speaking about while you’re breaking down the footage for us! That was so helpful. I’m sure it’s a lot of extra work for you, Scott, to have to edit it in, but it really does make a huge difference in being able to see exactly what you’re all talking about!
I’m glad y’all finally looked at this case! I’ve been recommending it since the trial! Make sure you look at the interrogation with the FBI & her interview with the psychiatrist where she turns into a Russian woman!!!! It gets really bizarre!!!!! Thanks for covering this case❣️❣️❣️❣️
This lady's story is ridiculous! So there is an intruder in her home, who has a gun, has already physically assaulted her and is now trying to rape her. Her 11 year old son comes in (presumably unarmed) and attempts to rescue her. At 1:06:44 she describes this incredible act of bravery and love as, he "trys to do something, be helpful or whatever" AND then she had the opportunity to flee and send for help for him and she does nothing, but she does provide the perpetrator with a suitcase. Wow! Even in her cover up story she is a terrible person. Amazing
Just passed the 3 year anniversary of subscribing to the channel! Back when I started watching, I was just taking in all you guys say. Now I find myself watching the videos and feeling stoked when I notice something, only for you guys to mention it in the next clip. I'm getting there! But seriously, massive thanks to you guys for the hours and hours of entertainment over the years, and for making my Sunday afternoons infinitely more interesting. Keep up the great work.
As a Colorado native I have been dying to know what you gentlemen would have to say about this for years. As always, well worth the wait! I’ve been a true crime junky since the Betty Broderick trial, (She would be another fascinating person for the four of you) you know, before it was cool…I’ve watched a lot of rough court stuff & this trial took my appetite away. I think it gave me a few extra gray hairs. Just the recordings of her phone calls to Gannon’s father are beyond maddening, that man Al is a saint, plays it so cool. Thank you for your endlessly fantastic perspective & education. I learn more useful information from you four every week of actually relevant life effecting stuff. You Rock, The End.
im 54 and have raised 2 kids. every time I hear a story about someone leaving a child in a car to go in a store. I have never been able to wrap my head around that at all. this weirdo claims to be going back-and-forth outside to check on the child. The stupidest logic is to leave a child in a car to go shopping but spend time going back-and-forth to make sure the child is all right when you can take the child in the damn store with you and stop wasting time but of course we are not dealing with people that have any crayons in their crayon box.🤔🤷
Blows my mind the way some people think that their lies are being believed , absolute carnage with this 1, what a warped sense of truth she has, condolences to family affected.. love you guys🇦🇺✌🏼
No wonder she needed NOTES. The many lies she told would need a set of folders. Al must have been wet behind the ears to tie his wagon to hers with. Totally too trusting. Poor man to have to go thru' such heartache for the rest of his days. May you find peace Al. (Lord she's a horror. So glad Gannon was found & his loved ones now know where the darling lad is.)
I've been following this case from the beginning. Since the moment she did that absurd interview, to watching the entire trial. She had no leg to stand on in her defense. She merely said she was psychotic (legally insane). Nope. You dont rent a truck, drive a thousand miles, and dump the poor boy over a bridge on psychosis. I'm saying that as someone who has psychosis.
100%! Andrea Yates was psychotic. She did not try to cover it up. She called the cops after. Leticia did everything she possibly could to cover up her heinous crime.
This first story is the closest we come to knowing what actually happened to Gannon. I felt like her interaction with the 'intruder' had kernels of truth of what was going on with her & Gannon after returning from Petco. She was the one going into the gun drawer. She was the one he was tussling with. She's telling on herself a lot here. Especially about what she was thinking afterwards & why she was lying to everyone. She really was in panic mode & trying to figure out what to do.
“The one time” Mark had shorts on with his coat and tie and got up to check on something he was cooking! 😆 I still die laughing at the thought of the rest of y’all standing up and walking away wearing shorts too. OMG!!! That was the best! Lol. 😂🤣😂
"Truth doesn't need support, but a lie loves a crutch." - Greg Hartley (TBP) EPIC line! When I went to this one family's house, all my stuff surrounded me and Randy was half the couple I was friends with, but he cleverly observed how my stuff was practically my way of barricading myself in. And it was true. I hadn't known them yet, but I don't travel lightly due to various disabilities. And I used to smoke 2 kinds of cigarettes which I would go outside to smoke and work my anxiety out on Sudoku or other puzzle, but it added to the haul I had and built up my barriers. And I think I might have known I wouldn't be safe and he would wind up being extremely abusive towards me. Physically hurting me and threatening me, not to mention the mental-emotional roller-coaster. But I realized that when Greg mentioned all the stuff around her, I flashbacked to my barricade-building. Nobody can get close to you if you're all spread out like that. And that's what I perceive she was doing, anyway.
Mark said he’d bet money Leticia did something to the child’s head. He won the bet. She did, in fact, hit him in the head, among many other terrible things. Poor child, rest in peace.
She’s not a good liar just a liar. She told about 13 different stories over weeks and when the found Gannons little body in a green suitcase I think, she plead guilty by reason of insanity smh, even tried the multiple personalities in court. She’s laughable but the case was so tragic. You guys as usual were spot on. Love watching your channel.
You guy's are so interesting to listen to, you all make a great combination. To strongly feel someone's lying is very different from being able to break down so realistically point by point.
She doesn’t answer not a single full question. None. She goes in a circle. Then another circle. And more circles and more. It’s insanity ….. how did AL not figure out this monster any sooner ?…. I don’t understand. I cannot understand. You left your children in care of this monster. Dad failed them. He failed. He’s to blame in my opinion. He brought this thing into their lives….
Chase, great explanation of the amygdala and the hippocampus, and how we are coded to interpret our limbic systems. We have followed these codes down through the ages, and those who have done it well are still here.
Im an ex coal miner neither of my parents ever said they loved me. They devorsed around 1976. Yet shown nothing but hate towards each another. I met my now wife jan 5th1979. We didnt have our daughter until 5th Feb 2,000. After her birth i remember sitting in my car in the hospital car park and suddenly found myself in tears. This really shook me up. Untill that moment i was one of those tough /hard men. I never shed a tear for any reason , not even witnessing one of my work mates being killed before my eyes . I had a serious accident in a roof fall notnlong after this, where i had my right arm virtually severd from below my right ear to my hips. My right hip broke , my left hip fractured. It took a lot of physio and healing. I went through a lot of wow is me, this little bundle of joy hit me so hard. She changed everything about me. I became a doting dad. My wife and i also made a pact. Anyone harm our daughter, my wife would visit regularly in prison. I coukdnt u derstand why my parents didnt have the same feeli gs for their child. I woukd die in a milli second to protect my child . The strange thing is id also protect anyone else's child too. I can honestly say becoming a dad really changed me. Ever since we had our daughter i will blubber up at virtualy anything reguarding kids. When my daufmghter went to uni in Leeds , we got home and i sat in the front room and cried. My. Wife asked me what was up? I said weve left her all on her own. My wife laghed and said she'll be fine, shes a big girl and i promise you ahes already out meeting new freinds. Shes now finished uni and back home. All i can say in my defence is my wife came from a loving family , i came from a family where i had to learn to love. I know for sure after some 43 years together and having put my wife on a pedestal,which she has to share with our daughter, i git something right, something that i was never taught by my parents. Having our daughter ( jade) was the icing on the cake.
God blessed you with your wife and daughter..not by accident..praise him and give him thanks for your blessings of today !! Very happy ..I understand..it's hard to witness callous people .
P. S - like my husband you learned yourself how to treat your family, with the love in your heart n past that hurt you you'll never let near you or your family. Just lovely reading that Sir.😊 makes me glow inside.❤
DAMN!! Out of the gate, (from 1:30), she incriminates herself MASSIVELY!! "Can I take my notes out?" "We took pictures!" "It is the same story." Explaining the carpet replacement. NOTHING in her demeanor or words suggests she cares at all about this poor child. She is narrating the day as though it was a fun adventure when she brutally murdered this innocent life. She's not so perky now that she has been convicted.
Greg always sneaks in these crazy life stories like they are no big deal. "Yeah one time as a child i had a shotgun in my face, but thats a story for another day..." Like whut? No. I need to know NOW Greg 😂😂
I know you've said this before Scott but i hope you dont think that constant eye contact is always deception. As a kid i always had trouble with eye contact. Then around my teenage years i told myself to just keep eye contact no matter how uncomfortable i got. Since then ive noticed i maintain eye contact much longer than most people, i just taughtmyself to overcompensate.
I’d really love to see the FBI interview analyzed as well. I think that was chock full of goodies on both sides that would make a very interesting analysis from this crew.
YES, agreed!! I found myself here from that video and it’s possibly one of the most fascinating interrogations I’ve seen with a very interesting dance between the agent and the suspect. Would love to see the panel dissect that one… especially to understand the FBI agent’s choices and direction.
Wow Mark, thats amazing, your spot on, she actually fractured this poor boys skull he had massive head injuries, she stabbed him and shot him too. I would love to see you guys comment on the interview she had with FBI Agent Jonathan Grusing he was amazing when he interrogated her! it was a great thing to watch.
LS explains a story in which she had access to at-least 3 loaded guns, including an AR & 2 cell phones. She supposedly was given the freedom by her r@•••t to check the ring notifications on her cell phone, walk up & down the stairs , open the front door to speak to 2 girls age 8 & 17, write out a list for cleaning supplies and then return to the door to give the girls the list & instruct them to go shopping @ dollar tree. She texted Harley 2-3 times during the time frame she claims she & Gannon were “attacked.” This woman is a monster, i’m glad she was recently transferred to Topeka, she sucks.
Hello panel ,Just want to say "Thank you" all on the absolute fantastic work you all do !And I love the way you all can analyze an individual and their innocence or quilt by the different body language/movements the person displays at the time of the interrogation and interview.I accidentally ran into your podcast around a week ago and must admit I'm hooked!
The reason she talks so much is so she can stop them from asking questions. Because when the cops start asking questions it screws up her rehearsed story. She gets super flustered when they ask her basic questions. "....and i took a wrong turn" who would include that in a story about their day? "I went here here and there and oh i took a wrong turn....then went home....i think...."
The main things I'm grateful to have learned from you guys is the amount of detail the suspect/liar uses, and when, and fading facts. These observations have helped me in my professional life as well as in my down time, when I'm binge watching true crime! Such simple things to pay attention to now that I know to look out for them. So thank you all for sharing the expertise you would normally be paid to provide to people 😊🏴
For a woman aparrently beaten unconscious she shows an amazing lack of injury. Also amazing is her ability to recall that she had thoughts during her 'blackout'. Obviously she's never had a significant enough head injury to lose consciousness even if only briefly. This woman had absolutely no chance of getting away with her crime. Even the enclosing community recognized her guilt and spoke about it on Facebook. By choosing to put her in an victim's interview room rather than an Interrogation cell was genius. Left Leticia with a subtle sense that she was getting away with her story. Making her comfortable enough to elaborate the story. Each elaboration is another place the detectives can explore to find inconsistencies between her narrative and the evidence. For a supposed M.Ed she doesn't seem very thoughtful. Quite sloppy in her scenario construction, almost amateur. A likely consequence of her repeatedly getting away with her fabrications.
The reason the Percocet trips are important is bc when she did arrive home camera footage see’s her getting out of the truck but you can’t see Gannon get out of the truck. So when she “took a wrong turn” it was thought that she killed him while out running to Petco and put his body out where she supposedly took the wrong turn. Oh she had an online degree and during the trial they couldn’t find proof that she had a degree. Basically she lied about everything in her life including having a degree!!
When a child has disappeared or has just been killed and you've been attacked, you don't send another child on errands (get milk). You either keep them under your watch, or you send them away to safety or for help.
.. she said she was crying when the "perp" was attempting to attack her. As a woman, this is a huge RED Flag! A woman cries as a release of emotion...during the attack, she would be so hyoer-ficused in escaping and/or protecting her child she would not be crying.!
You absolutely have to do alexee Travizo next. The hospital staff in the case said she had absolutely no emotion after killing her son in the trash can
I think you would likely have found her behaviour in court extreme and fascinating. She was even reprimanded by the judge for making a rude gesture to a witness which had been caught on camera.
Her behavior in court was unbelievable, the fact that she was flipping witnesses off and then she made the devil sign to the jurors 😮 I would love these guys to analyze court room behavior! Not to mention to listen to the phone calls.
@@dlaplante8955 I don’t know if you will understand me but, she reminded me of IT in the Adams family when she was hiding behind her hair every day. I think she was really annoyed after the judge insisted the chairs be moved.
@@AfterTheRains she did remind me of cousin It. Then someone else thought she looked to much like the girl from RING. 🤣 and that has stuck with me too.
Love you guys first time viewing and will again I love the fact you don't talk over each other so each of you get your points and opinions out to where we hear and understand everything thats been said your awesome!
Scott was on the right track regarding how weird or interesting it was when one of the detectives stepped out of the room; I believe we learned at her trial that the cops were searching her car or gathering DNA evidence or something in that realm during that interrogation.
If ever I had to make up a lie, I'd be sure to say, "I ordered Sushi, because Amazon delivers anything, including all of my books." 🤣 Thanks for those insights, Mark. Love your humor, and your comments on her referring to God and then Amazon were very interesting. Panel Guys: Y'all are the best!
I'm like one minute into her explanations and I'm struck. Her step son is DEAD and she's saying "oh yeah we were going to go hiking tra la la la yada yada it was a normal day and etc" WTF? She is completely lacking any remorse whatsoever. Wow. Even if you think she's innocent -- she doesn't give one damn that her step son is dead. Think about that.
The detectives are questioning her in the "family" room to disarm her. They treat the parents of missing children as victims, initially, so if she thinks they still consider her as a victim and not a perp, it will cause her to be off her guard and willing to talk, when she realkh shouldn't be talking.
The nesting reference was also interesting. As a retired RN, I have told patients who were worried about a health problem to create a nest on their couch. To have their phone at hand, fluids to drink, the tv remote, a book to distract them, a lap blanket, you get the idea. It makes them feel less anxious and more secure.
This woman is such an easy read....honesty can't comprehend how she could begin to imagine anyone would buy this b.s.! It's beyond comprehension how she could've done this horrific act to that child. Life in prison doesn't feel like justice for this evil act.
I know the full details of what this woman did to that poor boy.She is a disgusting excuse for a human being. It breaks my heart to think of what poor Gannon went through 😢
When I covered this trial we were all saying we hope you will do an episode on this 😍 You did an excellent job, as always ❤ Lead detective Jess Bethel (who is in the room with Letecia in this footage) resigned after this - the case and dealing with Lie-Tecia must've been incredibly disturbing. 😢 I'm going to send this to former detective Bethel, crime analyst Kevin Clark and DA Michael Allen. ❤
💯 your coverage of the trial was excellent and this video just confirms all our thoughts at the time!
I appreciated how caring you were in streaming the trial, and I have recommended your playlist to others who were asking. How do you have so much energy to cover so many cases?
As a reward for a job well done, TBP will receive a complimentary audio of Lie-Tecia’s phone calls, you know, yada-yada-yada, with her then husband. Do not play audio around pets or those with sensitive hearing. Ear plugs are recommended but not included. 😮🙉 You’re welcome.😂
@@aheineman9138 OMG. What a gift to receive. 😂🥲 “Please, no, no, you shouldn’t have! You REALLY shouldn’t have.”
@@aheineman9138😂❤
I sat in shock as Mark, who had no prior knowledge of the case, placed a bet that head trauma was likely a method of the murder after picking a single word “smash” from what most would consider a benign, unrelated comment about headphones. Head trauma was one of the many awful things that child suffered as he fought for his life.
The reason this show has gained so much popularity, these guys are truly experts.
Yeah, time slowed down as he went through that part. Real good thing I was already laying down, felt very weak. And a little "irpy."
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Right?! I was flabbergasted and amazed.
In reality, he could guess about anything and get it right, since she drugged him, shot him, burned him, stabbed him, and bashed him on the head. 🥴
Settle down Sally. It was one guess of many that would have been right.
@@rfcbass6810 yep he could have said anything drowning, strangling, hit by a car, pushed off a cliff, poisoned/OD, smothered … the brutality was the beating he took before she got fed up and chose more permanent means.
1:57:24 My favorite line so far has been, paraphrasing, “I blacked out. A little bit. And when I was blacked out my mind was racing…”
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😂😂😂
That awkward moment when you have to bring a cheat sheet to your interrogation to make sure you can keep all your lies straight..
hahahahhaa... so funny✌💜
AND THEN she asked for PERMISSION to look at the document…🤯🤯🤯
Just WOW 🤯
Who even has notes to be interviewed by the police. Not suss atall 🧐 I fail to even take a shopping list to the shops. Bizarre behaviour from the start
@@Youknowyouknow101 So here’s something that happened to me a couple months back because (a) I noticed suspicious body language, where I live, (b) TBP, (c) a podcast I listen to in the car called My Favorite Murder, and (d) a book by Gavin DeBecker titled The Gift of Fear…
Me…I usually have a list for grocery shopping or I’ll forget half the things I need (yeah…I’m old 😜).
So I had my list on my phone and another list on paper from my husband.
When I got to the store and parked-I like this particular store because it’s close, but the downside, it sometimes has dicey people in the parking lot hitting you up for money, so I’m cautious and I’m aware of my surroundings; right?
This day I sat in my car for a couple minutes transferring my list to the paper and watched what was going on in the parking lot because I saw a man (dicey looking) politely harassing a woman based on their body language, facial expressions and larger distance between them, so I stayed a bit longer to watch and finish the story on my podcast. Turns out that the guy was begging for money (shocker), but on the occasion he would score cash, he would go and give it to a guy by the front door, he had a better vantage point to observe the cars coming into the lot, so it looked like he was directing then other field guy to the more expensive-looking cars or compliant-looking humans…so the guy in the field (lot) had a partner🙄. This is a new one for me! So then the parking lot guy went back out to the lot and hit up another young woman (without children).
I only saw him targeting women during the time I was there.
Welcome to South Florida, that’s what it’s like here on the regular. 🙄
So I left. But on the way, I called the store and told the manager what was going on in his parking lot and that he just lost my business because I was driving to another store where I wouldn’t be harassed.
During the call, the store manager thanked me for letting him know, then told me that they’d been there before running the same game.
I’m like: Dude, then keep an eye on your parking lot!
That’s my little behavior observation story/crime tip for the day, y’all 🙃♥️😁
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My favorite thing about being a teacher this time of year is that I can watch the behavior panel live instead of having to wait!
What a great saying Mark. …”Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face”. …love it!😅
He quoted Mike Tyson.
If this were my step-son who went missing, I would be LOSING MY MIND with worry and despair. This woman disgusts me.
Yep it puts shivers down my spine n makes me sick to my stomach
Exactly
“Be as detailed as you can.” = the WORST thing you can say to Leticia Stauch if you want to walk away with your sanity. This is just the tip of the iceberg with this killer. Watching that trial was sheer insanity - just not the legal definition of insanity.
She's a nightmare.
So true
@@jewelie1981 I haven’t watched the trial yet. Need to. But i may need to meditate or something first. This sorry excuse for a woman infuriates me.
Every time I listen to one of your videos (which is OFTEN) I am remimded of exactly how incredible the brain is. You guys are so smart. I learn something every video. Thanks for your time, the dedication and love you have for the brain and body language and for sharing your knowledge. Hugs to all.
Scott, I feel your pain whenever you all cover a topic that involves horrible acts toward children. I appreciate your empathy on these most horrific subjects. You all demonstrate that it is possible to feel for humanity, and at the same time learn the neuroscience and behaviour analysis. Love you guys ❤
Dang, you’re very observant. 😮 - Scott
@@TheBehaviorPanelScotts always got jokes 😅but seriously I agree! You're very empathetic
🙏🏽❤ You provide concreteness to give me a language for things I feel, and I am SO grateful.
I’m glad you are covering her. She’s a real treat. That energy is off the charts! You can tell she ain’t right. She’s not focused on Gannon, it’s just the Leticia Show.
I watched the entire trial and it was A LOT. She’s a murdering liar, child abuser and hardcore narcissist. I’m glad she’s never getting out of prison.
Gannon Strong 💙💙💙
I actually feel bad for those women stuck inside with her, even the worst of 'em. She's a waking nightmare.
@tiffknox6158 I just watched the entire trial too and you’re right, it was A LOT lol. Forget the death penalty or life without, just sentence people to having to listen to LS in those phone calls and interviews. The crime rate would come to a screeching halt lol
When Chase said "Anyone over the age of 10 with an IQ over room temperature" I laughed so hard I nearly peed myself. That was the funniest thing I've heard all week. Thanks Chase.
Thank you!!!! I’ve been messaging you guys on all your social media platforms asking you to cover this excuse for a human being! I’ve followed this since it happened in 2020 and watched the whole trial and was dying to hear you guys speak on her! There is another interrogation video with the FBI after she had dumped poor Gannon and when she was actually arrested for his murder, please please please will you guys do that video as well 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼
This is heartbreaking. I keep thinking about the little boy going through this horror in a place he thought was home.
When she takes her notes out she actually SAYS, "Let me check where we are in 'The { my } STORY' - Oh that's right.. Here!" And then off she goes... I mean... 😵💫
@@linmonash1244 ya I rewatching the interrogation like… “story”!?
You guys are life savers, I'm at dialysis and thank you for coming on, I can watch you guys do ya thing while I get through this hard day, talking about 3 hours 45 minutes every other day. Now I will have a good treatment with good time. thanks for helping me get through the day.
Thank you for analyzing this woman! Her story has baffled me as to how she felt like she could get away with it! It doesn’t take much to see thru her bs!
This woman’s case/trial was the most unbelievable one I’ve watched yet. I was so glad when I saw your panel dissect her apart. This is only a crumb from a two layer cake. It’s totally worth diving into. Thanks! I really enjoy your channel!
I live in Colorado Springs, where Leticia lived, so this case is especially heart wrenching for me. It’s scary to know an absolute psychopath like her could have brushed shoulders with me!
Fun, unsolicited factoid that will freak you out ... 😉
There's an estimated average of at least 100 , active but not on anyone's radar, serial killers, at any given time, amd thats just in the US. And another fun factoid, is in your lifetime, in my life time, we will brush shoulders with an unknown or yet to be identified, serial killer, at least once or twice 😮
.... Un known serial killers, meaning actively, serialy killing yet unknown to police, MEANING law/authorities/feds don't even know there's a serial killer to be looking for 😬😳
That averages out to be there's at least 2 active but unknown serial killers IN EVERY STATE 😮
I DIDNT WANT TO KNOW ANY OF THAT so I shared it with you 😂😂😂😂
Yes yes yes!!!!!🎉 thank you BP... we've been waiting
My two favorite takes from this video:
(1) To paraphrase Mark, ‘Call 911 and then order takeout, as a general rule.’ 😂
(2)To quote Chase, “Children who grow up in unpredictable environments very often learn to be adaptable and flexible with the truth as a way to navigate chaos."
👏🏻 well done ALL
Gannon deserved so much more. He was a gorgeous and bright soul and has touched so many people. No one else deserves to be mentioned. You're missed Gannon 💙
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11 yr old Gannon was beaten (including head trauma, as Mark guessed,) stabbed numerous times, then shot. This wasn't a moment of anger that went too far. This was a horrific murder with overwhelming hatred toward the child. The only glimmer of light to be had is that "Dr. Letitia Stauch" will never see the light of day again. If you watch the trial, watch when the dad Albert testifies. How manipulative she was to him is unbelievable. Then the recorded phone calls Al made with the FBI there to coach him... incredible. It's always about her innocence and not about Gannon. And let's not forget the bizarre interview with the media where they ask what message she has for Gannon and she says she can't wait for him to get home and prove all the haters wrong. OMG. She's dangerous and belongs where she is.
She took it out on him. In my opinion, she was bitter and resentful towards her husband and Gannon's mom. She hurt them by hurting that sweet little boy. Worse kind of monster..
He was 11.
11* but yes, I agree.
Poisoned too
@@BoadieBroadus3211yes also drugged.
I love that Mark isn't aware of this tragedy beforehand. Makes his analysis unbiased. 👍
Thanks, guys!!!♥️
Listening to her crumble on the phone with Al during their phone calls while he's being coached by the FBI was like witnessing the Wicked Witch of the West screeching, "I'm melting, meeeltinnng..."
What an absolute HORROR of a human being.
She smashed a full Monster energy drink can into a correction officer's face while being extradited back to Colorado from South Carolina after breaking free from her restraints so she could try to get out of a moving van going around 70 mph.
She was flipping off witnesses in court. The judge threatened to secure her cuffs to a bolt under the table if she didn't stop.
The judge's remarks to her before sentencing were PERFECT. He cried during Al & Landen's victim impact statements, which were so moving that I sobbed.
RIP, Gannon.🌿💙
Wow.
Judge Werner did an amazing job.
RIP Gannon💙💙💙
"Things went through my mind while I was blacked out"...I actually laughed out loud on that one.
I did LOL at that one too!! She's too much! I watched the entire trial. Twice! I know this case back and forth. I'm so glad the BP is doing this. I hope they do more on her. There is soooooo much crazy material with this vile demon 👿
That got me too.
It's amazing how much of her history you're nailing! She does have a loooong history of lying and big lies at that. For example, she told her daughter that her father was murdered in a robbery when he actually died from OD
What stood out to me was when she said “I didn’t bring a gun downstairs with me or anything” That set red flags off in my head, because, no one said she did. This lead me to believe she did bring her gun downstairs with her. Now, knowing from the trial that she in fact shot Gannon, reenforces my theory that she did actually have a gun with her when she went downstairs. There was absolutely no reason for her to make sure to tell the officer that she didn’t bring a gun down with her, so I call BS on that statement
I’m pretty sure the whole guy in the house is a complete lie though. I think that’s kind of why she incorporated the gun into the lie because it’s some thing she used so she uses a little bit of truth with a lot of lie.
@@Brandylibra oh, yes for sure. It’s all completely fabricated. There was no man in the basement. What my point was, the mentioning of a gun, and random statement that she didn’t bring it down with her reminded me of my grandson saying “I didn’t eat a cookie” out of the blue. (He absolutely ate a cookie, lol). And Lie-tecia randomly bringing up the gun she supposedly didn’t have with her, like a toddler bringing up a cookie without a prompt to do so, was a red flag to me.
I attended this trial. They were our neighbors. Gannon finally got justice.
Yes he did! Justice was served.
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I had six brothers, sadly they have all passed now. You guys bantering with each other reminds me of them. Thank you! ❤️ 47:28
Mark's insight with psychology and sociology is great!
I watched the whole trial, Scott. You guys WILL BE adding her to your psycho videos soon. She’s highly malignant narcissistic. Gaslit her own daughter for years (really messing her up) This case is bizarre- you wouldn’t believe how violent she is (got her on camera)
Mark, please don't change your lean-in!! Your genuine engagement and excitement always draw my attention closer. You're the life of the party!! 🙂
I would LOVE to watch Greg interrogate someone for real. That would be such a show.
You are not alone in that desire 🤤😮❤
Ha yeah, don't put the empty milk jug back in Greg's fridge!
Greg: how ya doin ?
Me: Ahhh, it was me, I did it!!!
@@stevepeterson5943 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I totally just laughed out loud!!
Yes!
YES!! I can see how intimidating he could be. Very interesting.
I'd love so see your evaluation of the psychiatrists interviews with her. The phone calls with her husband were crazy too.
Great job on this guys, I finally had time to watch it. Thanks for the shoutout as well!
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I love when channels I appreciate acknowledge each other in a positive way!
Competition is best left on the field.
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Greg and panel, Laina is Gannon’s little sister. When she came home, Letitia sent her outside to play. Harley, whom was 17 at the time, came home a little after 4:30 (works at massage envy) she sent her (and told her to take Laina with her) to go buy cleaning supplies. They had previous plans to go out for sushi which Gannon did not like to do. She told the two girls that his stomach was hurting and he was staying home in bed. They went for sushi. That night Harley and Laina came down the stairs to see how he was, and she shuffled them away and back upstairs. I watched the trial and it’s insane how many times she changed the story. There was an FBI profiler that interviewed her that I think you guys would find interesting and would make a great part 2 on this video.
I had to chuckle..my daughter just walked by and heard this video playing and asked..Is she lying? I asked why and she said “she’s giving wayyyyy too much information “
Mark was spot on about the emphasis on "smash your head." This poor little boy had 4 blunt force injuries to his head that cracked his skull. She's a monster.
The times she is describing herself growing hit in the head, she is actually describing when she hit Gannon on the head several times to knock him out prior to stabbing him
my husband died after we had been married 10 years. I raised our 6 yr old dtr alone. i dated no one or went on any dates until she was 4 months shy of graduating high school. I could never believe that bringing another man around my dtr was a good idea. My parents didn’t even let us spend the night with people or have sleepovers. Daddy always said, most people are no dmn good and ya need to be cautious bout forming relationships with every “nice” person ya meet. That advice is what kept me focused on what’s necessary. At that time it was making sure i provided a stable ,safe n secure environment for us both. I have 2 dtrs and i’ve trained them both the same way. Some of the nicest people turn out to be just like this MENACE to society.
My hat off to you!
This is the underlying issue with this case.
The father married wife #2 and barley knows her. She's abusing the kids consistently while he works out of town frequently.
After this cow is arrested for murder he's already remarried to wife #3.
With a new baby.
Gannon's little sister has now lived through all the chaos and trauma and what does he do?
Spend time healing and comforting his daughter?
No she has another new mommy and step sibling.
Society accepts this as normal. He deserves his happiness.
He's culpable for the death of his son.
I've listened to his tapes during the time before they found Gannon.
He knew she was unstable and violent.
But leaves his vulnerable children in her care.
The statics are very high that a step parent will hurt your child.
It's not too much to ask people to put their lives on hold for a few years until their kids are grown?
It's admirable that you cared more about your child than your loneliness.
@ajordan1976 I cannot agree with you more! I have huge issues with Al Stauch. His son is brutally murdered by his wife leaving a very young girl is exposed to all this trauma and his main priority is running off and getting remarried as fast as possible?!?!?!?! He made such a horrifically terrible judgment call on his last relationship that it cost his son his life and he doesn't hesitate for one second to evaluate his ability to judge character before exposing his remaining child to yet another new woman?!?!?! Unbelievable. Disgusting and unbelievable. Al Stauch is a terrible father imo and shouldn't have had or continue to have custody of his child(ren).
@@ajordan1976 You are exactly right, there is nothing wrong with telling adults they need to sacrifice being in a relationship for giving themselves 100% to their children. I know everyone is different but I've never been lonely a day in my 54 years. I've never experienced being lonely for companionship. I've always had plenty to do and I always enjoy what I'm doing. I enjoy being with my children and friends and I enjoy spending time with no one around. My life is my own and I choose to do exactly what I enjoy however, my children came first. To me that not only meant providing for them , it meant it was not time for me to be dating anyone. Many times children just cannot process the idea of a new parental addition to the family. Even if the person is great and isn't a problem. Children want the attention of their parents peridot. You can't really do that when trying to build a new relationship unless the newbie doesn't need much.
I can't tell you how many times my dtr has called home and thanked me for not bringing a man to our home. Of course I'm always proud that my children are proud of me. She's a social worker therefore she sees the results of what parents do to their children for the sake of being in questionable or untimely relationships.
@@ghettoprincess_80 society is much harder on women who do this yet men are celebrated for adding another so-called "mother" to the house. It's equally unstable regardless of who does it.
@@ghettoprincess_80 thank you so much.
I've not been popular in my opinion. Victim blaming was the most popular description. Fortunately I stand firm in my conviction concerning Gannon's safety and why he is no longer alive.
I believe if we don't ask the hard questions about how this child wound up murdered. Then his death was in vain.
You brought up several important points
The fact that Al is sitting in a courtroom with 3 wives is mind boggling. That he trusts anyone is beyond me?
I'm convinced he only wanted full custody so he didn't have to pay child support.
The way he cosigned the parental alienation against Landon was a crime!
Makes so angry for both Landon and Laina.
This case is so sad. What makes it hard is was preventable. If only Al had his priorities straight.
An eleven year old boy would be 14 now.
But for some reason popular opinion is Al is a hero.
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This goes so much deeper. Please do a part 2. She digs herself Sssoooooo deep, so many times.
1:57:24 She so perfectly illustrates how she feels about Gannon compared to her daughter. Even in a made up dangerous situation, she is saying she was more concerned about her daughter possibly coming home to the situation than the son in the arms of the attacker. That spoke volumes.
2:29 She says the day before he disappeared, they went hiking and Gannon had stomach problems and "pooped in his pants." When I heard that I assumed this was a young child - maybe 4 or 5. But he was 11. This makes me think he didn't really poop his pants and she just wants to humiliate him (his memory).
Exactly. She knew he was very embarrassed having dealt with bowel issues due to his prematurity. That bish brought up these issues repeatedly to HUMILIATE Gannon to the entire world!! Wasn't enough she painfully tortured and took his life.💙
Or maybe she did something so awful to him that he DID in fact, soil himself and she wanted to use that as an excuse...
I believe she gave him so much medicine to make him poop his pants.
Jorale........ she didn't like the child and I have a feeling that he pooping in his pants spoiled her day ,what made her furious and loose control.
She's a hideous creature trying to slander him.
I like how the one investigator got up and said she had to leave. She couldnt even stand the B.S. anymore. I bet the other dectective was thinking "oh please dont leave me in here by myself with her"
😂 And Lieticia was like "What? what do you mean you have to leave, I'm in the middle of my creative storytelling!!! How dare you??? What could be more important than me???
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Or other detective was thinking she should have left first.
I really love you guys, and I appreciate your hard work, the free education you provide us with and the time you spend doing so! With that said, I can’t be the only person that really misses when you’d edit in the behaviors you’re speaking about while you’re breaking down the footage for us! That was so helpful. I’m sure it’s a lot of extra work for you, Scott, to have to edit it in, but it really does make a huge difference in being able to see exactly what you’re all talking about!
"anyone with an I.Q. over room temperature" hahahaa I will be using that one from now on, thank you, Chase!
I absolutely love this channel! These guys are awesome!
I’m glad y’all finally looked at this case! I’ve been recommending it since the trial! Make sure you look at the interrogation with the FBI & her interview with the psychiatrist where she turns into a Russian woman!!!! It gets really bizarre!!!!!
Thanks for covering this case❣️❣️❣️❣️
This lady's story is ridiculous! So there is an intruder in her home, who has a gun, has already physically assaulted her and is now trying to rape her. Her 11 year old son comes in (presumably unarmed) and attempts to rescue her. At 1:06:44 she describes this incredible act of bravery and love as, he "trys to do something, be helpful or whatever" AND then she had the opportunity to flee and send for help for him and she does nothing, but she does provide the perpetrator with a suitcase. Wow! Even in her cover up story she is a terrible person. Amazing
Yeah, I had to stop trying to listen using reason or rationality. It ain't there.
Right. I would love to know what was going on in her head but we never will because she is apparently incapable of being truthful about anything.
@@stevepeterson5943Agree
She really has something against Hispanics.
Just passed the 3 year anniversary of subscribing to the channel! Back when I started watching, I was just taking in all you guys say. Now I find myself watching the videos and feeling stoked when I notice something, only for you guys to mention it in the next clip. I'm getting there! But seriously, massive thanks to you guys for the hours and hours of entertainment over the years, and for making my Sunday afternoons infinitely more interesting. Keep up the great work.
As a Colorado native I have been dying to know what you gentlemen would have to say about this for years. As always, well worth the wait! I’ve been a true crime junky since the Betty Broderick trial, (She would be another fascinating person for the four of you) you know, before it was cool…I’ve watched a lot of rough court stuff & this trial took my appetite away. I think it gave me a few extra gray hairs. Just the recordings of her phone calls to Gannon’s father are beyond maddening, that man Al is a saint, plays it so cool.
Thank you for your endlessly fantastic perspective & education. I learn more useful information from you four every week of actually relevant life effecting stuff.
You Rock, The End.
im 54 and have raised 2 kids. every time I hear a story about someone leaving a child in a car to go in a store. I have never been able to wrap my head around that at all. this weirdo claims to be going back-and-forth outside to check on the child. The stupidest logic is to leave a child in a car to go shopping but spend time going back-and-forth to make sure the child is all right when you can take the child in the damn store with you and stop wasting time but of course we are not dealing with people that have any crayons in their crayon box.🤔🤷
How one person can simultaneously be so full of animosity and resentment yet still manage to be so full of BS is a mystery to me.
Blows my mind the way some people think that their lies are being believed , absolute carnage with this 1, what a warped sense of truth she has, condolences to family affected.. love you guys🇦🇺✌🏼
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No wonder she needed NOTES. The many lies she told would need a set of folders. Al must have been wet behind the ears to tie his wagon to hers with. Totally too trusting.
Poor man to have to go thru' such heartache for the rest of his days. May you find peace Al. (Lord she's a horror. So glad Gannon was found & his loved ones now know where the darling lad is.)
That poor poor boy. 😔
😢😣🤧!!!
Please do her FBI interrogation video! It’s a body language and verbal gold mine!!! Love your channel!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Agreed!!!😊
The Devil herself! What she did to that poor boy! She savagely murdered an 11 year old boy! And she has a child herself! What a psychopath!
I've been following this case from the beginning. Since the moment she did that absurd interview, to watching the entire trial. She had no leg to stand on in her defense. She merely said she was psychotic (legally insane). Nope. You dont rent a truck, drive a thousand miles, and dump the poor boy over a bridge on psychosis. I'm saying that as someone who has psychosis.
100%! Andrea Yates was psychotic. She did not try to cover it up. She called the cops after. Leticia did everything she possibly could to cover up her heinous crime.
My favorite sentence : "I blacked out a little bit"
This first story is the closest we come to knowing what actually happened to Gannon. I felt like her interaction with the 'intruder' had kernels of truth of what was going on with her & Gannon after returning from Petco. She was the one going into the gun drawer. She was the one he was tussling with. She's telling on herself a lot here. Especially about what she was thinking afterwards & why she was lying to everyone. She really was in panic mode & trying to figure out what to do.
“The one time” Mark had shorts on with his coat and tie and got up to check on something he was cooking! 😆 I still die laughing at the thought of the rest of y’all standing up and walking away wearing shorts too. OMG!!! That was the best! Lol. 😂🤣😂
That was hilarious
I didn't see that! I am laughing just hearing you describe it. 🤣
"Truth doesn't need support, but a lie loves a crutch."
- Greg Hartley (TBP)
EPIC line!
When I went to this one family's house, all my stuff surrounded me and Randy was half the couple I was friends with, but he cleverly observed how my stuff was practically my way of barricading myself in. And it was true. I hadn't known them yet, but I don't travel lightly due to various disabilities. And I used to smoke 2 kinds of cigarettes which I would go outside to smoke and work my anxiety out on Sudoku or other puzzle, but it added to the haul I had and built up my barriers. And I think I might have known I wouldn't be safe and he would wind up being extremely abusive towards me. Physically hurting me and threatening me, not to mention the mental-emotional roller-coaster. But I realized that when Greg mentioned all the stuff around her, I flashbacked to my barricade-building. Nobody can get close to you if you're all spread out like that. And that's what I perceive she was doing, anyway.
Mark said he’d bet money Leticia did something to the child’s head. He won the bet. She did, in fact, hit him in the head, among many other terrible things. Poor child, rest in peace.
She’s not a good liar just a liar. She told about 13 different stories over weeks and when the found Gannons little body in a green suitcase I think, she plead guilty by reason of insanity smh, even tried the multiple personalities in court. She’s laughable but the case was so tragic. You guys as usual were spot on. Love watching your channel.
You guy's are so interesting to listen to, you all make a great combination. To strongly feel someone's lying is very different from being able to break down so realistically point by point.
When she says, "I blacked out and had so much stuff going through my mind."
I was like the Minion that says Whaaaat?!?!?!
She doesn’t answer not a single full question. None. She goes in a circle. Then another circle. And more circles and more. It’s insanity ….. how did AL not figure out this monster any sooner ?…. I don’t understand. I cannot understand. You left your children in care of this monster. Dad failed them. He failed. He’s to blame in my opinion. He brought this thing into their lives….
Chase, great explanation of the amygdala and the hippocampus, and how we are coded to interpret our limbic systems. We have followed these codes down through the ages, and those who have done it well are still here.
Im an ex coal miner neither of my parents ever said they loved me. They devorsed around 1976. Yet shown nothing but hate towards each another. I met my now wife jan 5th1979. We didnt have our daughter until 5th Feb 2,000. After her birth i remember sitting in my car in the hospital car park and suddenly found myself in tears. This really shook me up. Untill that moment i was one of those tough /hard men. I never shed a tear for any reason , not even witnessing one of my work mates being killed before my eyes . I had a serious accident in a roof fall notnlong after this, where i had my right arm virtually severd from below my right ear to my hips. My right hip broke , my left hip fractured. It took a lot of physio and healing. I went through a lot of wow is me, this little bundle of joy hit me so hard. She changed everything about me. I became a doting dad. My wife and i also made a pact. Anyone harm our daughter, my wife would visit regularly in prison. I coukdnt u derstand why my parents didnt have the same feeli gs for their child. I woukd die in a milli second to protect my child . The strange thing is id also protect anyone else's child too. I can honestly say becoming a dad really changed me. Ever since we had our daughter i will blubber up at virtualy anything reguarding kids. When my daufmghter went to uni in Leeds , we got home and i sat in the front room and cried. My. Wife asked me what was up? I said weve left her all on her own. My wife laghed and said she'll be fine, shes a big girl and i promise you ahes already out meeting new freinds. Shes now finished uni and back home. All i can say in my defence is my wife came from a loving family , i came from a family where i had to learn to love. I know for sure after some 43 years together and having put my wife on a pedestal,which she has to share with our daughter, i git something right, something that i was never taught by my parents. Having our daughter ( jade) was the icing on the cake.
God blessed you with your wife and daughter..not by accident..praise him and give him thanks for your blessings of today !! Very happy ..I understand..it's hard to witness callous people .
That was beautiful!❤
I loved that y’all “made an agreement that she would visit me in prison”. Profound, simple truth: this line you shall not cross. Beautiful my friend.
That was beautiful ❤️ I am so glad you learned how to live AND to except love given to you.
P. S - like my husband you learned yourself how to treat your family, with the love in your heart n past that hurt you you'll never let near you or your family. Just lovely reading that Sir.😊 makes me glow inside.❤
DAMN!! Out of the gate, (from 1:30), she incriminates herself MASSIVELY!! "Can I take my notes out?" "We took pictures!" "It is the same story." Explaining the carpet replacement. NOTHING in her demeanor or words suggests she cares at all about this poor child. She is narrating the day as though it was a fun adventure when she brutally murdered this innocent life. She's not so perky now that she has been convicted.
The fact she described it as a story...alarm bells
@@meesamagill1193 exactly!!!
Greg always sneaks in these crazy life stories like they are no big deal. "Yeah one time as a child i had a shotgun in my face, but thats a story for another day..."
Like whut? No. I need to know NOW Greg 😂😂
I thought that too haha
Please tell me y’all are going to do the breakdown of the FBI interview, I’m DYING to hear the breakdown!!!
just to be clear, not just her behavior, but your take on the FBI guy, I think I know the answer, but I need to hear it from you for confirmation.
I know you've said this before Scott but i hope you dont think that constant eye contact is always deception. As a kid i always had trouble with eye contact. Then around my teenage years i told myself to just keep eye contact no matter how uncomfortable i got. Since then ive noticed i maintain eye contact much longer than most people, i just taughtmyself to overcompensate.
I dont think that at all. 👍
I’d really love to see the FBI interview analyzed as well. I think that was chock full of goodies on both sides that would make a very interesting analysis from this crew.
YES, agreed!! I found myself here from that video and it’s possibly one of the most fascinating interrogations I’ve seen with a very interesting dance between the agent and the suspect. Would love to see the panel dissect that one… especially to understand the FBI agent’s choices and direction.
Wow Mark, thats amazing, your spot on, she actually fractured this poor boys skull he had massive head injuries, she stabbed him and shot him too.
I would love to see you guys comment on the interview she had with FBI Agent Jonathan Grusing he was amazing when he interrogated her! it was a great thing to watch.
LS explains a story in which she had access to at-least 3 loaded guns, including an AR & 2 cell phones. She supposedly was given the freedom by her r@•••t to check the ring notifications on her cell phone, walk up & down the stairs , open the front door to speak to 2 girls age 8 & 17, write out a list for cleaning supplies and then return to the door to give the girls the list & instruct them to go shopping @ dollar tree. She texted Harley 2-3 times during the time frame she claims she & Gannon were “attacked.”
This woman is a monster, i’m glad she was recently transferred to Topeka, she sucks.
Hello panel ,Just want to say "Thank you" all on the absolute fantastic work you all do !And I love the way you all can analyze an individual and their innocence or quilt by the different body language/movements the person displays at the time of the interrogation and interview.I accidentally ran into your podcast around a week ago and must admit I'm hooked!
"I don't want to misquote myself" WHAT?
The reason she talks so much is so she can stop them from asking questions. Because when the cops start asking questions it screws up her rehearsed story. She gets super flustered when they ask her basic questions. "....and i took a wrong turn" who would include that in a story about their day? "I went here here and there and oh i took a wrong turn....then went home....i think...."
The main things I'm grateful to have learned from you guys is the amount of detail the suspect/liar uses, and when, and fading facts. These observations have helped me in my professional life as well as in my down time, when I'm binge watching true crime! Such simple things to pay attention to now that I know to look out for them. So thank you all for sharing the expertise you would normally be paid to provide to people 😊🏴
For a woman aparrently beaten unconscious she shows an amazing lack of injury.
Also amazing is her ability to recall that she had thoughts during her 'blackout'. Obviously she's never had a significant enough head injury to lose consciousness even if only briefly.
This woman had absolutely no chance of getting away with her crime. Even the enclosing community recognized her guilt and spoke about it on Facebook.
By choosing to put her in an victim's interview room rather than an Interrogation cell was genius. Left Leticia with a subtle sense that she was getting away with her story. Making her comfortable enough to elaborate the story.
Each elaboration is another place the detectives can explore to find inconsistencies between her narrative and the evidence.
For a supposed M.Ed she doesn't seem very thoughtful. Quite sloppy in her scenario construction, almost amateur. A likely consequence of her repeatedly getting away with her fabrications.
Listening to her, I thought she had a low level of education.
The reason the Percocet trips are important is bc when she did arrive home camera footage see’s her getting out of the truck but you can’t see Gannon get out of the truck. So when she “took a wrong turn” it was thought that she killed him while out running to Petco and put his body out where she supposedly took the wrong turn. Oh she had an online degree and during the trial they couldn’t find proof that she had a degree. Basically she lied about everything in her life including having a degree!!
I knew it! I missed that part of the trial but believed strongly that she bought that degree online! Thanks for the validation!
When a child has disappeared or has just been killed and you've been attacked, you don't send another child on errands (get milk). You either keep them under your watch, or you send them away to safety or for help.
.. she said she was crying when the "perp" was attempting to attack her. As a woman, this is a huge RED Flag! A woman cries as a release of emotion...during the attack, she would be so hyoer-ficused in escaping and/or protecting her child she would not be crying.!
Agree.
I’m sure I’m not the first person to say this: These 4 would be excellent dinner party guests. But I would be very paranoid all evening. 😹😹😹
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ikr????? I need one as a paid bff... I'd take him on all my outings from meet ups to interviews.
Yess!! I cannot wait to dive into the commentary.. I have been waiting for this for a while.. Thank you for doing this.
You are so welcome!
You absolutely have to do alexee Travizo next. The hospital staff in the case said she had absolutely no emotion after killing her son in the trash can
I think you would likely have found her behaviour in court extreme and fascinating. She was even reprimanded by the judge for making a rude gesture to a witness which had been caught on camera.
Her behavior in court was unbelievable, the fact that she was flipping witnesses off and then she made the devil sign to the jurors 😮 I would love these guys to analyze court room behavior! Not to mention to listen to the phone calls.
@@dlaplante8955 I don’t know if you will understand me but, she reminded me of IT in the Adams family when she was hiding behind her hair every day. I think she was really annoyed after the judge insisted the chairs be moved.
@@AfterTheRains she did remind me of cousin It. Then someone else thought she looked to much like the girl from RING. 🤣 and that has stuck with me too.
Love you guys first time viewing and will again I love the fact you don't talk over each other so each of you get your points and opinions out to where we hear and understand everything thats been said your awesome!
Scott was on the right track regarding how weird or interesting it was when one of the detectives stepped out of the room; I believe we learned at her trial that the cops were searching her car or gathering DNA evidence or something in that realm during that interrogation.
If ever I had to make up a lie, I'd be sure to say, "I ordered Sushi, because Amazon delivers anything, including all of my books." 🤣 Thanks for those insights, Mark. Love your humor, and your comments on her referring to God and then Amazon were very interesting. Panel Guys: Y'all are the best!
I love how you guys focus on the behavior without sensationalizing the crimes. I listen your videos on repeat and always learn/hear/see something new
I'm like one minute into her explanations and I'm struck. Her step son is DEAD and she's saying "oh yeah we were going to go hiking tra la la la yada yada it was a normal day and etc" WTF? She is completely lacking any remorse whatsoever. Wow. Even if you think she's innocent -- she doesn't give one damn that her step son is dead. Think about that.
The detectives are questioning her in the "family" room to disarm her. They treat the parents of missing children as victims, initially, so if she thinks they still consider her as a victim and not a perp, it will cause her to be off her guard and willing to talk, when she realkh shouldn't be talking.
The nesting reference was also interesting. As a retired RN, I have told patients who were worried about a health problem to create a nest on their couch. To have their phone at hand, fluids to drink, the tv remote, a book to distract them, a lap blanket, you get the idea. It makes them feel less anxious and more secure.
Yes, I felt she was doing something similar, but more like a fort to protect herself.
This woman is such an easy read....honesty can't comprehend how she could begin to imagine anyone would buy this b.s.! It's beyond comprehension how she could've done this horrific act to that child. Life in prison doesn't feel like justice for this evil act.
All these things were going through my mind as I was blacked out. I don't think that's the way "blacking out" works.
😂
right! She’s ridiculous!
Wow! I'm only 30 seconds into her 'story' and it's already completely bizarre. Going to be a good one.
I know the full details of what this woman did to that poor boy.She is a disgusting excuse for a human being. It breaks my heart to think of what poor Gannon went through 😢