Young Remus, lying in bed: There's a monster under my bed! It's the most hideous thing I've ever seen! Young Roman, on the bottom bunk: Why do you detest me brother?
(Unpopular Sander Sides opinion/head canon) Ok, so what if Remus was born a couple seconds before Roman and he keeps rubbing it in his brother’s face Like if you agree!~
ok, we are all high in the "Virgil was upset for being called "paranoid"", but can we please acknowledge Logan's "Thank you for being on guard"? idk u, but that felt healthy af
Those two have a connection that virg doesn’t have with the other sides. They two understand each other completely differently. Logan can tell with Virgil is on the verge of an anxiety attack and watches him closely. He knows what triggers Virgil and when he accidentally mentions something, he stops himself and uses different vocabulary to ease Virgil. I love their friendship and it’s SO UNDERRATED
I ACTUALLY GOT TO REFERENCE THAT A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO IT MADE ME REALLY HAPPY EVEN THOUGH MY FRIEND WAS PROBABLY THINKING "what is this crackhead going on about"
I really, really like Janus' line in Forbidden Fruit. "He said you're wanting to be more honest and be direct dealing with your issues, no longer will you deceive yourself about the ugliness within you." It's actually really upseting that it took a fan comic for me to finally realize this was referring to Thomas, but once I did, it easily became one of my favorite lines out of the whole series. Janus represents self-preservation, which comes with deceit. But he doesn't just want Thomas to deceive others, and thats where the misinterpretations of his character mess up. He's responsible for Thomas deceiving himself aswell, and we're told that alongside his introduction. And that idea is what causes a lot of the later episodes to happen. For example in Selfishness v Selflessness, when Patton says Thomas was really excited to go to the wedding Thomas hesitates before agreeing with him, and we later find out that he actually didn't want to go to the wedding at all. And yet there was still a dilemma between whether or not choosing the callback would make Thomas a bad person or not, so he chooses the wedding regardless. Even Roman, someone who agreed with what Janus was arguing for, ultimately went against him because of the way Thomas viewed self-preservation at the time. And that's the cause behind this episode. Virgil and Patton, the 2 sides who had conflicted with Janus the most up until Putting Others First, both jump on the thoughts Thomas had and make them out to be a bigger deal than they were because of that fear of being a bad person. Thomas wants to be more honest with himself, and with that he ends up making this out to be more indicative of his true character than it really was.
That's a lot of word-salad for basically stating that Remus began appearing because Patton and Virgil cracked down on Thomas about Janus making a completely valid point and the over-correction let Remus loose.
@@Egobyte83 Well not really. Remus wasn't "let loose" by anything except Janus, he's the one who reveals the sides to Thomas if he wants to know about them, we are told this in Can Lying Be Good. What I was _trying_ to say was that Janus says Thomas wants to be more honest with myself and thats why Remus is revealed, and Thomas is trying to be more honest with myself because of SvS. Idk why I couldn't just say that in the og comment instead of making it so incoherent tho lol. Like to think I've gotten better at explaining things
Us: I bet that romans dark side is this large, strong black and gold pride character that is both terrifying but like a king. Remus sitting in a trash can, eating deodorant: hehhh butts
Does that make Virgil Logans Dark side? (overthinking leads to anxiety) idk or he could just be a dark side that kinda came in out of nowhere since that is how anxiety is like
I was really appreciative of it as well, as someone who has a lot of resentment towards religion and complicated feelings about religious people. those warnings give me time to prepare and adjust.
@@belphegutz_ Ohh right no - sorry, I totally get people who have trauma due to religion and stuff - I just was wondering this: does a religious person genuinely get that traumatised if religion is talked about negatively But thank you :)
@borgCube100 probably not, but a good chunk of them probably wouldn't be that keen on it either lol That's not a trauma thing that's just a "rather not see this" thing, which trigger warnings are also helpful for
I know right! These videos are what tipped me off about my anxiety, and how to deal with it. I've actually learned how to handle panic attacks better with these videos than the actual therapist i saw for a year.
Can we just talk about Logan's character development, at first he never knew how to deal with emotions, but now he's calming and loving to all the sides.
I would gladly talk for 2 hours about Logan's character development, but instead I'll just say I love him and I become prouder and prouder of him in each video
That's honestly one of the things I love best about these videos, is that the Sides are all developing and becoming more complex and learning. They're opening up more, being more vocal, more understanding, and working together and it's beautiful.
I still think that logan needs a video specifically for his character development, because i feel they haven't directly adressed his "not wanting to deal with or feel his own emotions". Its been hinted at, but never brought up
@@drippyfresh9471 Ah I agree completely. But I'm glad Logan's character arc isn't finished yet, bc watching him grow and learn is so heart-warming (and also the other sides, obvs, but we're focusing on our boi Logan here)
In rewatching this episode, there was one detail that stuck out to me. In SVS, Janus called out Virgil for being a Dark Side, doing everything except explicitly stating it. When Remus showed up, look how Virgil looked at Thomas. He was scared that he was going to be outed as a Dark, and apologetic about not keeping the others away. Virgil also was blinking a lot through this, and his eyes were red. He genuinely looked like he was about to cry for the entire episode. And when he was about to tell Thomas he was a Dark, he covered his eyes. He had started crying, only after the others left. He didn’t want to be vulnerable. Even more than that, he probably was afraid that would tell them everything, even though he only wanted to tell Thomas. He didn’t want to be patronized by Patton, made fun of by Roman, taunted by Remus, or have Logan explain it in enough detail to make it bigger than it was. Virgil didn’t want to tell anyone except Thomas about his past.
roman, patton, and logan already knew, actually. thats made clear by the way patton and logan have this annoyed look on their faces like "what an asshole" after remus said "it was just like old times!" keep in mind, they already knew about janus and remus before they were revealed. so it would only make sense for them to know about virgil, considering they already knew who he was when he was revealed. (ex: "hey there princey." "oh-kay, I cant stand that guy...") the only thing they didnt know about him was his name. which follows, considering they didnt know janus or remus' either. the reveal that virgil used to be a dark side was for thomas alone. and technically the audience too, but i mean...we called it a long time ago lol.
Virgil: "Because I was one of them" Key word was "was" meaning he's no longer one of Thomas's dark sides because Thomas has learn to accept and help his anxiety.
oh yea i was thinking that as well! (as in i heard Remus and thought 'wasnt that story in 7th grade Romulus and Remus'. Also Remus was killed by Romulus if I remember correctly
When Virgil is talking about ghosts not being evil and noticed Remus, his voice gets the deep filter when he says “SHOW UP”. And they’ve used that filter to depict whenever Virgil’s anxiety is heightened. I love attention to detail so much
Avery Diaz I was like “what am I getting myself into” and then I finished the video and I was like “funniest sander sides change my mind” honestly it was not what I was expecting
29:18 Thomas acknowledging that saying "pain in the ass" was a bad idea and changing to "nuisance" was a nice touch. Also, by the face Remus makes, he knew what Thomas was about to say
I deal with intrusive sexual thoughts all the time, which is weird given the fact I’m completely Asexual and have no intention of ever doing any deed. I’ve never opened up about this to anyone because of how ashamed it makes me feel. Despite the fact I can’t control it. It grosses me out so much. It’s so intrusive too. I’ll literally be at a vending machine looking at what bag of chips to buy, then: BOOM! The image of an old lady in lingerie pops into my head. (Not that I care for that sort of thing, think about it regularly or want to think about it at all, but it just appears out of nowhere) it’s really scary and weird. Once I was with a couple of friends and we were just hanging out and I started dry heaving due to this gross thought. It quickly passed, but I hate that this is how my brain works
@@kalebhateclub9668 being hypersexual stems from multiple different disorders and/or trauma, actually. Its not exclusive to OCD. In fact, its more closer to a disorder like BPD in my opinion, as someone who actively has intrusive sexual thoughts and has BPD. Hypersexuality can also be a resort of SA trauma and can be worsened by PTSD. Its a coping mechanism even for people who may not have any other underlying disorders.
Omg same. I am disgusted with sex and the real thing makes me gag whenever I've tried it. And yet at random times random scenes pop into my head. But at the same time so do many other types of intrusive thoughts. How to hurt me or others, what would happen if this and that happens, and more.
Oh god, I had this for weeks with really horrible racist thoughts. I obviously didn't associate or identify with them- I am in no way and will never be a racist- but I'd just be watching something and someone of colour would be on screen and my brain would be like haha lol let's be meanies and it was the absolute worst Luckily they've very much gone away now and left me in peace ✌
@@annaf2370 what? No it isn't , electrifying is arousing a sudden sense of great excitement; thrilling. That has nothing to do with electrocuting which is to injure or kill someone by electric shock.
Can we talk about the progress Logan's made? He went from being completely stoic and annoyed by emotions to having so much empathy he can essentially act like a sort of therapist now. He branched out away from his comfort zone in order to better service c!T!! Good for him
Finally, Logan can be the hero for once. Not that I'm complaining or anything, it's just Logan doesn't get to be the hero that much and it's nice to see him be the hero.
to be honest, it goes even deeper than that... Romulus and Remus were the brothers that founded the "twin" cities of Rome and Sparta... who were ever at each other's throats. their rivalry was indeed legendary. it was the mythology Behind said cities rivalry, to explain why they fought so much. a set of twins raised by a she wolf with one being the "smart" one and the other being the "brute force" one. it's so well known that it was the basis for the fictional races of the Romulans and the Klingons. both said to be derivative of the Vulcans. ~i really should get a Logan pin at some point for all the nerding out i do~
I love the symbolism of the fact that Virgil went from popping up and disappearing to sinking down and rising up like the others, especially here. It shows that he has gone from “bad” to good and is fully committed to attempting to help
Virgil: “Because I was one of them....” Thomas stands there questioning his life decisions for a few seconds... Looks at camera Thomas: Oh! Oh right you still exist!
How dare you ruin the like number. How dare you good day sir lol. Little bit of a reference to Charlie and the chocolate factory and to a bloopers video of this
I mean, in the Nostalgia part 2 video there was the picture of young Thomas electrifying his brother, so, I mean, yes..? Also Remus attempted to kill Roman later by giving him a fatal head injury- Yup. Loki.
@@aryehadventures9657 question, WhY iS eVeRy f--- mArVeL aCtOr sO HooOooOoOT like srsly i watched endgame 3x and i cried watching all of em i MISS loki, RDJ (ironman), C. Evans (cap), Natalia romanoff etc.
10:30 That neck crack and the look in Remus’s eyes just tells us that he has found new ammo to f*ck with Thomas, and how he kept bringing Jeffery Dahmer up just to disturb Thomas supports this
I don't think it was about the shock value so much as it was Virgil actually revealing his past to Thomas and trusting him with that information. It was about vulnerability and growth. Not just making something canon
I don't think it was about the shock value so much as it was Virgil actually revealing his past to Thomas and trusting him with that information. It was about vulnerability and growth. Not just making something canon
I simply ADORE Roman and Remus having two shadows in this video. I'm not sure whether the lighting usually works like that anyway, but when Remus' hands appeared it gave the effect that he was already standing there before he'd fully risen. peak cinematography
“Can we Logic our way out of this one..?” Everyone: YEA- “No not really, there’s no way to force intrusive thoughts out of your head , please pay attention” Everyone: *got us in the first half not gonna lie*
I love how it kinda sounds like 'so you are gonna trust me on this and let me solve the entire situation like you wanted me to trust you in the beginning solving it by ignoring it? Well I can't do that. That was the whole point of what I was saying actually. Try remembering this; the only logic that can solve this is knowing that there is no simple solution. However, this does not mean we can't handle him, we just need to do it appropriately. So, that's rather simple.
Deceit: very filtered speech, lawful neutral
Remus: zero filter at all, chaotic
Omg why is this so true?
Is Virgil Chaotic Good?
Remus is the *definition* of chaotic evil
DND REFERENCES!
Virgil Alexander absolutely
Florida man argues himself in front of a camera for dreaming a murder and compares himself to a serial killer.
Accurate
UnamusedDeathGod nice username 👍
This is the best Florida Man headline ever.
R/floridaman
@@peculiarme2468 r/foundthemobileuser
Virgil : "Thomas can't Logic his way out of this one."
Logan : "B**ch watch me."
Also Logan: Not really, no
Well yes, but also no
Logan acting like the sane Side for the LONGEST TIME-
Remus: Logic yourself out of this. *(throws shurikin at Logan)*😹👻
Logan: no, u can't logic ur way out of this
Also Logan: logics his way out of it
Virgil's voice sounding layered and distorted when he's overwhelmed is such a good representation of what anxiety attacks feel like.
I love it when his voice does that
It's so realistic, and i get chills when that happens
I love how Virgil snaps his fingers near his ear after Logan screams, “FALSEHOOD!” To make sure he can still hear
wait that makes sense.......WAIT! THAT MAKES SENSE.... OH BOI I LOVE THIS
Yeah all of these episodes are so well scripted! I love it
Just a Person lol same
Just a Person I know right, that was perfect! (PS. I love your profile pic, it looks like someone trying to speak Danish for the first time😂)
JP.Calamity Oh my god, that made me laugh so hard 😂
Logan: Life isn’t black and white
Thomas: But the duke and the prince literally wear the black and the white
Waluigi and red is the opposite of green on the color wheel
@@hkmurray what about red and yellow
Solan Buford what do you mean? I’m saying that Roman wears white with a red sash and Duke wears black with a green sash
red and yellow arent opposite each other on a colour wheel. they're pretty much next to each other
@@helloitsme472 ok thanks
Young Remus, lying in bed: There's a monster under my bed! It's the most hideous thing I've ever seen!
Young Roman, on the bottom bunk: Why do you detest me brother?
Yes tho
Roman is SORT OF like Netflix Kids and Family, while Remus is completely like Netflix and Chill
Sleep Deprived and Dying LMAOOO
Get Help. Fanart. Need it now.
Sleep Deprived and Dying lol
Virgil: your most extreme reaction is an eyebrow raise.
Logan the next time they deal with remus: goes orange
LMAO
logan: inverts his color
the falsehood was foreshadowing frfr lmao
I think it's foreshadowing for Logan's dark side
Fuckin orange piccolo
I love how Duke is the uncensored version of creativity, but UA-cam forces him to be censored anyway.
Its his weakness XD
The irony~ Even I thought the Duke was not dirty or juicy enough, that or I've had too much apples
Lololololololooololooololol
Julianna Agoncillo it has less to do with youtube and more to do with thomas. it's thomas's dark creativity, not yours.
Gotta get that ad revenue and spon cash, so censoring the duke is a must
Virgil : Ghost aren't evil, they're scary because you don't know when they're
*sees Remus*
*_gOnNA ShO W Ų P-_*
OneLuckyDime lmfaooo
His voice got all distorted too! He got even more anxious and *paranoid* than before!
Lmao
@@yesouioo woah that's a forbidden word and you know it
@y e s hold up-
T.HA.T.S.I.L.L.E.G.A.L
"Thats is the brave, handsome, unbeatable: Roman!"
*"no mommy i dont want the mashed potatos..."*
ME too
Wren Giles That’s Actually Me At Dinner In My Mind… 😂
Lol
I busted a gut when i heard him say that😂😂😂
Is Roman thinking about the split?
Logan: “figuratively dress him down. That is why I say it… THAT 👏🏻 IS👏🏻 WHY 👏🏻 I 👏🏻 SAY 👏🏻 IT👏🏻”
Remus: “damn… okay”
YES KICK HIS BUTT WITH KNOWLEDGE
Lol yes
Ironically, Roman was the only one who complained about that and he wasn’t awake to see this
24:30
remus: have you ever imagined killing your brother?
remus literally les than a minute later: smacks his brother in the head with a mace
Napkin Squad yeah. That was so wonderful. They didn't interact overly much but I enjoyed the dynamic between the two brother sides.
That one part of moving on where Thomas looks into an old journal and say how he thought of electrocuting his brother with lightening
Ong
(Unpopular Sander Sides opinion/head canon)
Ok, so what if Remus was born a couple seconds before Roman and he keeps rubbing it in his brother’s face
Like if you agree!~
The Gacha Girlz
Next time my friend Sophie comes over, we are definitely going to role-play as the Creativity twins
(and I’m going to be Remus)
ok, we are all high in the "Virgil was upset for being called "paranoid"", but can we please acknowledge Logan's "Thank you for being on guard"? idk u, but that felt healthy af
it was awesome and i loved it!
Time?
@@SaraRankins. It happens at around 21:37
Those two have a connection that virg doesn’t have with the other sides. They two understand each other completely differently. Logan can tell with Virgil is on the verge of an anxiety attack and watches him closely. He knows what triggers Virgil and when he accidentally mentions something, he stops himself and uses different vocabulary to ease Virgil. I love their friendship and it’s SO UNDERRATED
I wonder if Virgil was originally called ‘Paranoia’ when he was a dark side.
Remus said “Have you imagined killing your brother?” Before hitting Roman in the head!
OMG I JUST RELIZED THAT 😲 .0.
😳
Ohhh snap he beat his own bro
OMFG HE DOES, That’s a 4d chess move on Thomas’s part
Also his theme starts playing when he shows up behind Roman
The fact that his name is revealed the same video he is introduced really helps to establish that he is never one to hide anything.
Remus: have you ever imagined killing your brother?
Remus: *kills his brother*
Omigahd... thOmas knocked out roman
X3
Also he compares him and Roman to Cain and Able (Cain killed his brother Able) and that's a well planted theme throughout the whole video
Pippa Greenhalgh it’s so true tho... 0-0
YOU KILLED HIM!
”Yeah, I didn't make him throw the baby!I simply gave him a baby, and a l a r g e, s h a r p, k n i f e...”
I ACTUALLY GOT TO REFERENCE THAT A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO
IT MADE ME REALLY HAPPY EVEN THOUGH MY FRIEND WAS PROBABLY THINKING "what is this crackhead going on about"
i mean he has a point 😂
...
@@r3m221 what reference?
@@gaminggirl9427 I referenced the quote they commented
"Your most extreme reaction is an eyebrow raise....."
"FALSEHOOD"
*snap snap*
"I stand corrected.........."
just making sure he hadn't gone deaf.
3:09
Logan: *FALSEHOOD!!!*
Everyone else's ears: *;-;*
Vergil is my favorite
Virgil Has Now Killed Half The Population.
I really, really like Janus' line in Forbidden Fruit.
"He said you're wanting to be more honest and be direct dealing with your issues, no longer will you deceive yourself about the ugliness within you."
It's actually really upseting that it took a fan comic for me to finally realize this was referring to Thomas, but once I did, it easily became one of my favorite lines out of the whole series.
Janus represents self-preservation, which comes with deceit. But he doesn't just want Thomas to deceive others, and thats where the misinterpretations of his character mess up. He's responsible for Thomas deceiving himself aswell, and we're told that alongside his introduction. And that idea is what causes a lot of the later episodes to happen.
For example in Selfishness v Selflessness, when Patton says Thomas was really excited to go to the wedding Thomas hesitates before agreeing with him, and we later find out that he actually didn't want to go to the wedding at all. And yet there was still a dilemma between whether or not choosing the callback would make Thomas a bad person or not, so he chooses the wedding regardless. Even Roman, someone who agreed with what Janus was arguing for, ultimately went against him because of the way Thomas viewed self-preservation at the time.
And that's the cause behind this episode. Virgil and Patton, the 2 sides who had conflicted with Janus the most up until Putting Others First, both jump on the thoughts Thomas had and make them out to be a bigger deal than they were because of that fear of being a bad person. Thomas wants to be more honest with himself, and with that he ends up making this out to be more indicative of his true character than it really was.
could i have a link to that fan comic..
That's a lot of word-salad for basically stating that Remus began appearing because Patton and Virgil cracked down on Thomas about Janus making a completely valid point and the over-correction let Remus loose.
@@Egobyte83 Well not really. Remus wasn't "let loose" by anything except Janus, he's the one who reveals the sides to Thomas if he wants to know about them, we are told this in Can Lying Be Good. What I was _trying_ to say was that Janus says Thomas wants to be more honest with myself and thats why Remus is revealed, and Thomas is trying to be more honest with myself because of SvS.
Idk why I couldn't just say that in the og comment instead of making it so incoherent tho lol. Like to think I've gotten better at explaining things
@@Egobyte83 well some times "word salad" is necessary. not everything can be properly explain in a few sentences.
Us: I bet that romans dark side is this large, strong black and gold pride character that is both terrifying but like a king.
Remus sitting in a trash can, eating deodorant: hehhh butts
t h i s i s g r e a t . and i just thought it was virgil that was his darkside.
coward Joseph
Agreed
@@salem6288 excuse me how did you read my mind
oh my god that was so true
Does that make Virgil Logans Dark side? (overthinking leads to anxiety) idk or he could just be a dark side that kinda came in out of nowhere since that is how anxiety is like
Remus is the definition of the quote
“I’m the TrAsH mAn”
And patton is the walrus.
And i'm crying in the corner
THE TRASH MAN!
Let's put the fork in the garbage disposal-
DINGDINGDINGDINDINDINDINGDING
I hate when santa calls me a ho-ho-hœ XD
Thomas: No, seriously, thank you, Logan. You're really . . . cool
*Logan.exe has stopped operating*
*Logan stans are quaking*
Pretty much.
I like that part haha
I can hear Logan repeating *I am cool*
If you put on captions it says *disbelieving noise* so im confused on if he doesn't believe it or he's just surprised ;-;
Mad props to Thomas for including “Religious Commentary” in the trigger warnings, as someone who needs that, that’s awesome, and pretty rare
I was really appreciative of it as well, as someone who has a lot of resentment towards religion and complicated feelings about religious people. those warnings give me time to prepare and adjust.
Not an attack - but a curiosity -
How does it have so much control on your life to BE a trigger?
@borgCube100 For some people, it's because of religion based trauma, for others it's more so based on discomfort with religion in general
@@belphegutz_ Ohh right no - sorry, I totally get people who have trauma due to religion and stuff - I just was wondering this: does a religious person genuinely get that traumatised if religion is talked about negatively
But thank you :)
@borgCube100 probably not, but a good chunk of them probably wouldn't be that keen on it either lol
That's not a trauma thing that's just a "rather not see this" thing, which trigger warnings are also helpful for
VIrgil: Thomas can't logic his way out of this one.
Logan: Is that a f***ing challenge
H Marlin FALSEHOOD
Ya it is
Spite
LiEs
H Marlin this is my favorite comment
Remus: **kills logan**
Logan: I'VE COME TO BARGAIN
Remus: **surprised pikachu face**
careless crows, I got that reference.
Dormammu! I’ve come to bargain! (90% sure I spelt that wrong)
@@chinchilla_fandoms9500
How do you spell Dormamu?
Chris Pratt: Dormamu so fat--
AAAAAAA I UNDERSTAND THAT REFERENCE!!!!!!
@@chinchilla_fandoms9500 You actually spelled dormamu close to right
Therapist: expensive
A Sander's Side video: free and fun
bro seth well, Logan did say to get a therapist or a psychiatrist if it felt really serious
I agree! This is So much better than therapy!
Cartoon therapy would help!! :))
I know right! These videos are what tipped me off about my anxiety, and how to deal with it. I've actually learned how to handle panic attacks better with these videos than the actual therapist i saw for a year.
And legitimately helpful
When Remus said “I wouldn’t lie to you” then he looked at Virgil, and Virgil felt uncomfortable.
I know, must have been horrible.
"No mommy, I dont want the mashed potatoes."
-Roman/Creativity, 2019
Boyf Riends
o O
0
MEMEMEMEMEMEMMEMEMMEMEMEM
What part of the video does he say that? I can't find it
Slytherin Alpha1 😂😂😂 that stills makes me laugh😂
Boyf Riends best quote of 2019
That is the brave handsome unbeatable Roman
Awkward situation: **exists**
Virgil: **touches staircase**
M e.
Lol
His safe space
T R U T H
Nervous habit....He has a lot of those...Ok he IS a lot of those
Virgil: “Ghosts aren’t evil. They just scare people because you never know when they’re going to-“
Cue demonic voice when he sees Remus
“ *show up* “
Yes
OMG! HOW DID I MISS THAT!? 😂😂😂
The Tempest Tongue !!
Yes!
Dunno why I think the fact that Virgil gets a demon voice is really cool and unique
"Don't say juicy in that context!"
Remus: immediately says juicy in a far worse context
Can we just talk about Logan's character development, at first he never knew how to deal with emotions, but now he's calming and loving to all the sides.
I would gladly talk for 2 hours about Logan's character development, but instead I'll just say I love him and I become prouder and prouder of him in each video
That's honestly one of the things I love best about these videos, is that the Sides are all developing and becoming more complex and learning. They're opening up more, being more vocal, more understanding, and working together and it's beautiful.
I still think that logan needs a video specifically for his character development, because i feel they haven't directly adressed his "not wanting to deal with or feel his own emotions". Its been hinted at, but never brought up
@@drippyfresh9471 Ah I agree completely. But I'm glad Logan's character arc isn't finished yet, bc watching him grow and learn is so heart-warming (and also the other sides, obvs, but we're focusing on our boi Logan here)
@@eaglefan2569 agreed
Remus: Have you ever imagined killing your brother?
Roman: *chuckles* I'm in danger!
*2 seconds later*
Remus: *hits roman over the head*
😂😅
Ironically its Romulus who killed remus
@@DejaVu-ts4un yep,but now its remus
OooooOoooooo0ooooooo
*Remus is revealed as Romans opposite*
Me: of course princey’s opposite would be the mustache twirling villain
Melodic Harmony oh my gosh that makes so much sense!
Romulus and Remus anyone?
I mean, did anyone expect anything different?
@@lamyas7356 oh shoot you're right
Melodic Harmony lmao that's what I was thinking🤣🤣
I feel like remus would love the " don't hug me I'm scared" series 😂
Or more likely, the rule34 of it
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario I'm sorry *WHAT*
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario let's not.
What's rule 34-?
@@iiyaraii2597 U H H H - WELL- it's basically- likee.. NSFW thingss..
My therapist: intrusive thoughts are just thoughts and cannot hurt you
Remus: *standing in the bathroom doorway eating a deodorant stick*
Same but mine would probably have a SpongeBob mask doing a fortnight dance
MOOD
Mood
Therapist: Remus isn’t real, he can’t hurt you.
Remus: ):D
XD
“Uh oh despite his best efforts, Virgil could never stop being the bad guy”
“Oh and Patton”
“Ah- rEcOrD sCrAtCh?”
25:00
Patton screams: yOu dO nOt taLk aBouT mY sOn LiKe tHat
Virgil couldn't be a bad guy. D:
Not to be rude but this comment got 1.3k likes just for quoting some dialogue
but like, look at how hurt virgil looks right while he's saying that
"No, mommy, I don't want the mashed potatoes"
W H E E Z E
Same 😂
A sheep and goats cheese and crackers and I am really looking forward for your time and it's attachments
What.
**dying**
me : *eating mashed potatoes* wait im suppost to not want these?
31:30 Logan softly explaining that it's okay made me cry, it was really cathartic to hear that
"No mommy I don't want the mashed potatoes...!"
- Roman Sanders
YESSSSSSS
OMG PLEASEEEEE
“ *Virgil Sanders singing* “
- Thomas Sanders | Sanders Sides
I'll eat the mashed potatoes
when?
Roman: Ooh, that guy's cute, let's say hi!
Virgil: No!
Remus: LET'S JUMP OFF THAT BRIDGE!
Virgil: Maybe - *NO!*
Time stamp?
@@PizzaPlantz I wish
@@PizzaPlantz it didnt happen in the video
@@candylovesyou7953 it didn't?
crystal clear editz He/She didn’t say it was.
Roman: h-
Remus: *_VIBE CHECK_*
Remus: *smacks him over the head with a mace*
jam maam Your profile picture should be the official flag of Earth
Can someone do this to me
jam maam HOW AND WHERE DID YA FIND THAT PROFILE PIC
Remus: Pleasant metaphors isn't my strong suit
Vigel: you had a strong
Remus: i do my birthday suit
Virel: ugh
Repli: you're honest deviant
jam maam I think Remus had a morning star? I’m not sure though
In rewatching this episode, there was one detail that stuck out to me.
In SVS, Janus called out Virgil for being a Dark Side, doing everything except explicitly stating it. When Remus showed up, look how Virgil looked at Thomas. He was scared that he was going to be outed as a Dark, and apologetic about not keeping the others away.
Virgil also was blinking a lot through this, and his eyes were red. He genuinely looked like he was about to cry for the entire episode. And when he was about to tell Thomas he was a Dark, he covered his eyes. He had started crying, only after the others left. He didn’t want to be vulnerable. Even more than that, he probably was afraid that would tell them everything, even though he only wanted to tell Thomas. He didn’t want to be patronized by Patton, made fun of by Roman, taunted by Remus, or have Logan explain it in enough detail to make it bigger than it was. Virgil didn’t want to tell anyone except Thomas about his past.
roman, patton, and logan already knew, actually. thats made clear by the way patton and logan have this annoyed look on their faces like "what an asshole" after remus said "it was just like old times!"
keep in mind, they already knew about janus and remus before they were revealed. so it would only make sense for them to know about virgil, considering they already knew who he was when he was revealed. (ex: "hey there princey." "oh-kay, I cant stand that guy...") the only thing they didnt know about him was his name. which follows, considering they didnt know janus or remus' either.
the reveal that virgil used to be a dark side was for thomas alone. and technically the audience too, but i mean...we called it a long time ago lol.
Ohh, my poor little anxious baby!
I didn't notice that the first time, poor Virgil
Do you think that the reason Virgil didn’t like Roman at first was because he reminded him of Remus?
Omg, that so totally makes sense. Thank you so much! I get it now
Sassy Brat no problem :D
Omg my mind just went 😯😮😲😵
It would be really interesting if they bring this up in a future video
That makes so much sense
Remus: *shows up out of nowhere*
The Sides : “What- who are y-“
Remus:
*imma sing a broadway song about me lmao*
just like a good villain
if romans a disney nerd why wouldnt he
Me: Roman? WHAT THE HECK IS THAT!!!! *Point's to Remus's outfit*
Mary Breckling lol yess
*lmao*
Logan: Roman is sort of like, Netflix Kids and Family
Roman: MERRY B*TCHMAS EVERYONE
XD
🤣🤣 same
😂🤣
Rudolph the rednose reinb*tch
Lol I'd do that to my friends
Virgil: "Because I was one of them"
Key word was "was" meaning he's no longer one of Thomas's dark sides because Thomas has learn to accept and help his anxiety.
Hehehehe was was
I like the details that he just sinks down.
Ah really clever. "Remus", the second, the abandoned brother, in the shadow of the glorious Romulus, mythological founder of Rome
Kin Laison THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT
oh yea i was thinking that as well! (as in i heard Remus and thought 'wasnt that story in 7th grade Romulus and Remus'. Also Remus was killed by Romulus if I remember correctly
That makes so much sense
OOHHHHH THAT'S WHY IT'S REMUS! Alright I'm dumb
I just keep thinking Harry Potter
“You high jacked my joke! You high joked!”
-Roman 2019
If someone high joked a 420 joke would it be a giant joke
OH HI IM SUSCRIBED TO YOU XD
@@rinneamagism same
• MiniRxse • Same :0 lol
Percy Jackson Fandom same
Thomas: even my thoughts are going wrong
*VIRGIL HAS JOINED THE SERVER*
_***several people are typing..._
Steven Cain Yes just yes
LMAOOO
Dude I rewinded to the part and I’m like wait why that so true
TwentyOnePanicsAtTheDisco your USERNAME
When Virgil is talking about ghosts not being evil and noticed Remus, his voice gets the deep filter when he says “SHOW UP”. And they’ve used that filter to depict whenever Virgil’s anxiety is heightened. I love attention to detail so much
Logan: "Roman is like Netflix Kids and Family."
Me: *Flashback to Roman saying b*tchmas several times*
B*tcheltoe
how i met your mother was on netflix kids for like three years
The bloopers version of that is hilarious ,😂🤣😂🤣😂
When I read this i couldn't stop laughing
Happy tree friends is on Netflix kids last I heard
I love how Patton gasped because Virgil saying “bastard” was the first uncensored curse on sander sides
Klaus O'Shaunacey bastard is not a swear word
* jamitoast * maybe not by your standards, but this is Patton.
Klaus O'Shaunacey wait when!?
* jamitoast * Some people consider it to be but
Nova.cos. Deku 20:06
*Virgil* : "Because I was one of them."
*Me, tearfully* : We Been Knew.
Queen of UA-cam hahahahahahah
When did he say this
Shannen Williams at the end
I think 37:02 ?
We really did...
POV: We all know this
Fun Fact: Remus is the reason why we have trigger warnings
Fair point.
Me reading the warning
My Morality: *Chuckles* I’m in danger.
Avery Diaz were all in danger
I had to mute it mostly. Aint nothing gonna stop be from watching them bois tho
Avery Diaz I was like “what am I getting myself into” and then I finished the video and I was like “funniest sander sides change my mind” honestly it was not what I was expecting
Ladies and gents here we have: a rare memer. They are very hard to find.
Yikes.
Other kids: I am so random!
Remus: hold my deodorant.
remus be all over the 'not like other girls' reddit tag
NO *Throws away DO* so gross man!
YAASSSS
is it bad I'm more random than Remus
@@madisonp8948 you... drink deodorant and jump in front of cars? If the answer is not, I don't think you should be worried
“🖕🏻Oh- What’s that?”
“That- w- Is something Joan would do..”
Timestamp
N o w
True...
@@lnelygacha6424 14:14 you're welcome
That is something I would do
@@ZeroTheGam3r tysm-
I just realized that Remus said, “ have you ever thought of killing your brother”, and then he knocks out Roman and Patton yells, “YOU KILLED HIM!”
I thought of Liquid Snake from Metal Gear Solid.
Virgil: because I was one of them
Everyone:
M Y
S O N
I legit was like VIRGIL MY BABYY
CALLED IT
Knew it
I ALREADY KNEW BUT MY BABYYYYY
I cant believe it's conan
My poor dark stargell son
Can we talk about the editing? Thomas literally just hit himself in the head with a mace and it looked flawless
Right??? It’s so impressive and amazing
It was pretty cool. Props.
I think he hurt him self?????
@@Alpaca_Kid he didnt🤣🤣
The song too! There were twenty Thomas's interacting SEAMLESSLY
No one:
Not a single soul:
Literally no one:
Remus: *Eating deodorant*
We need to applaud Thomas for eating literal deodorant for his role
@@krisdoesart9643 Or he ripped a chunk off to make it look like he ate it.
Dashy noooo don’t ruin the effect!
no but at the very end he's just eating the deodorant stick
@@Ghoopem I'M SORRY!!!!!! (╥ω╥`)
29:18 Thomas acknowledging that saying "pain in the ass" was a bad idea and changing to "nuisance" was a nice touch. Also, by the face Remus makes, he knew what Thomas was about to say
when he said "the human connection will make me feel like a person again," i really thought this was recorded sometime in the past 8 months.
sameee
@@striderboy1000 as someone who uses they/them pronouns when i saw your username it made me smile ahah
@@MYSTERIOUSORBS Lol, happy i could make someone smile
omg same, I checked the date it was posted lol
sameeeeee
Summary of the video:
Remus: I am inevitable
Logan: and I am Logic
Carolyn Leung THANK YOU. FOR THIS.
*pterodactyl noises intensify*
I love this 3000
Patton in the background: Logan that was my joke I'm supposed to say "and I'm dad" how dare you
Everyone: **gushing about roman**
Roman: no mommy I don't want the mashed potatoes
That played just as I scrolled to your comment
🥲🤚
Wait what’s the time stamp pls
So you see, the gushing is totally warranted.
@@sojej979 12:45
I deal with intrusive sexual thoughts all the time, which is weird given the fact I’m completely Asexual and have no intention of ever doing any deed. I’ve never opened up about this to anyone because of how ashamed it makes me feel. Despite the fact I can’t control it. It grosses me out so much. It’s so intrusive too. I’ll literally be at a vending machine looking at what bag of chips to buy, then: BOOM! The image of an old lady in lingerie pops into my head. (Not that I care for that sort of thing, think about it regularly or want to think about it at all, but it just appears out of nowhere) it’s really scary and weird. Once I was with a couple of friends and we were just hanging out and I started dry heaving due to this gross thought. It quickly passed, but I hate that this is how my brain works
they're actually quite a common type of intrusive thought, i have them as well and they're horrible. you aren't the only one
its.. actually ocd. and i really recommend you do some research and look into it bc it can be pretty bad if you dont know how to handle it
@@kalebhateclub9668 being hypersexual stems from multiple different disorders and/or trauma, actually. Its not exclusive to OCD. In fact, its more closer to a disorder like BPD in my opinion, as someone who actively has intrusive sexual thoughts and has BPD. Hypersexuality can also be a resort of SA trauma and can be worsened by PTSD. Its a coping mechanism even for people who may not have any other underlying disorders.
Omg same. I am disgusted with sex and the real thing makes me gag whenever I've tried it. And yet at random times random scenes pop into my head. But at the same time so do many other types of intrusive thoughts. How to hurt me or others, what would happen if this and that happens, and more.
Oh god, I had this for weeks with really horrible racist thoughts. I obviously didn't associate or identify with them- I am in no way and will never be a racist- but I'd just be watching something and someone of colour would be on screen and my brain would be like haha lol let's be meanies and it was the absolute worst
Luckily they've very much gone away now and left me in peace ✌
"Of course you're not a chick. You're a metaphysical human being. A chick is a newly hatched bird." Yes logan. Yes
OH THATS WHAT HE SAYS
thank you, I could never actually hear what he says
Roman: mommy I don't want the mashed potatoes
“I said figuratively. That’s why I say that.
THAT’S 👏🏼 WHY 👏🏼 I 👏🏼 SAY 👏🏼 THAT!”
It not that
Rebekah Shipp
Omg I saw that part as I read this comment
Lost Hearted Fox I rewatched that part twice to make sure
We now have two of those the we get it your a👏do👏ra👏ble and that
I was so excited that logan got SASSY
MA LIL SMART BOI
Remus: Have you ever imagined killing your brother?
Thomas in the second part of the moving on video:This is me electrocuting my brother
So the answer was yes
Emily Wright Excuse me? It’s “Electrifying”
@@annaf2370 ? Ok...
@@annaf2370 what? No it isn't , electrifying is arousing a sudden sense of great excitement; thrilling. That has nothing to do with electrocuting which is to injure or kill someone by electric shock.
Nicole Briant I know what it means I didn’t mean it literally. It’s what Thomas said in the video 🤦🏼♀️
Seriously watch it back he says electrifying
Can we talk about the progress Logan's made? He went from being completely stoic and annoyed by emotions to having so much empathy he can essentially act like a sort of therapist now. He branched out away from his comfort zone in order to better service c!T!! Good for him
i love him so much its not even funny. he would never admit it, but hes so kind and caring.
Fitting in: We 👏 get 👏 it 👏 you're 👏 a 👏 dor 👏 able
Dealing With Intrusive Thoughts: That 👏 is 👏 why 👏 I 👏 say 👏 it
We STAN parallels in this household
Logan likes to clap
Logan likes clapping u guess
Deceit: unmasks his self like a scooby doo villian
Remus: reveals his self like a Disney villian
👏👏
yessss 👏👏👏😂😂😂
👌
That's how you know there will be a discussion about Scooby Doo with Deceit in it
Virgil turns into a good guy like a twist villan
*YESSSSS-*
Virgil: I am the darkest emotion Thomas has in his mind
Remus: hold my beer
Should be
Virgil: i am the darkest emotion in thomas's head
Remus: hold my deodorant
@@virgilanxietysanders2771 agreed
@@Poipoisama XD
Remus: Hold my shampoo
Logan: Were you drinking that?
Remus: It's good for washing down the deodorant! 😈
~No it's "hold my deodorant"~
Logan explaining lack of sleep: 🤓
Me who hasn’t slept yet:😅
Me watching this at 1.30 am: You are absolutely correct Logan sleep is very important
@@elliott9246 🙌
“deodorants don’t have flavors, you don’t eat deodorant”
“well, maybe you don’t”
PFFT
Bananabeth my strange addiction called: they want Remus back
Sams_Fishing
Lmaoo
Remus started the "That sounds like a you problem" trend before it was a trend XD
Can we talk about how Logan single-handedly calmed everyone down and got through the problem by himself? What a legend.
And Patton just kinda swooning the whole time
What a madlad!
Finally, Logan can be the hero for once. Not that I'm complaining or anything, it's just Logan doesn't get to be the hero that much and it's nice to see him be the hero.
Logan is my hero after this episode, and I've tried to let my logic out more so it doesn't feel bad.
Not all heroes wear capes, sometimes they wear ties and glasses. :>
Thomas’ inner thoughts: Have you ever imagined killing your brother?
Remus: *”kills” his brother Roman*
I see what you did there
to be honest, it goes even deeper than that... Romulus and Remus were the brothers that founded the "twin" cities of Rome and Sparta... who were ever at each other's throats. their rivalry was indeed legendary. it was the mythology Behind said cities rivalry, to explain why they fought so much. a set of twins raised by a she wolf with one being the "smart" one and the other being the "brute force" one.
it's so well known that it was the basis for the fictional races of the Romulans and the Klingons. both said to be derivative of the Vulcans.
~i really should get a Logan pin at some point for all the nerding out i do~
OMG I DIDN'T!!!!!!! THAT IS SO CLEVER!!!!!!!!!!!
@@kstormgeistgem461 i remeber that from my history class i thought of Scar and Mufasa
Ya that what I was thinking
Also, he makes a reference to Cain and Abel. Cain kills his brother Abel, and Remus said he was Cain.
I love the symbolism of the fact that Virgil went from popping up and disappearing to sinking down and rising up like the others, especially here. It shows that he has gone from “bad” to good and is fully committed to attempting to help
* Remus being Remus *
Patton: “Let me see what you have”
Remus: “A gold fish condom!”
Patton: “NO!”
YES
Omg yes
Who is Remus
Wait I hadn’t watched the video properly yet aha
i swear if remus' symbol is a half-eaten stick of deodorant-
*gasps* dont give him any ideas
Jensen Ackles' Blue Steel I WANT THAT-
If it is anything else now I will be disappointed
And the deodorant's label can be Roman's crest cause he's technically still a noble of the same kingdom
😂 😂 I cant even
Roman: No one can be more extra than me!
Remus: Hold my goldfish condom!
There’s also 69 likes on this and I’m not gonna break this. I love this tho😂
👏👏👏
This isn't and is funny at the same time...
This made me blow air out my nose...
TT_Pigeonforge 😂😂😂
This is hilarious and helps lighten the mood from the video.
34:03 Ik it’s just the lighting, but I love the fact that Roman has two shadows, again showing how there are two sides to creativity
*logan cutting himself of when he’s about to say “paranoid” but Virgil is hurt by it so he restarts*
My Analogical loving heart is living right now
I have a feeling we may see Virgil's original all black color pallete make a return. And their name is Paranoia.
What if Virgil's dark side is paranoia? It's exaggerated anxiety after all.
I now have a theory virgil, back when he was a dark side, was paranoia
@@ItzEllzbellz Ohhh, that makes sense! I like that
Virgil: “Because I was one of them....”
Thomas stands there questioning his life decisions for a few seconds...
Looks at camera
Thomas: Oh! Oh right you still exist!
Me with all my friends and family.
Oh and especially homework and school.
I ruined tge (6)69 likes :>
Got ya to 1k
How dare you ruin the like number. How dare you good day sir lol. Little bit of a reference to Charlie and the chocolate factory and to a bloopers video of this
What the fwuh
"Have you ever imagined killing your brother"
*Loki Odinson has entered the chat*
BAHAHAHAHAHA
Thor:*is extremely worried*
Roman:*same*
I mean, in the Nostalgia part 2 video there was the picture of young Thomas electrifying his brother, so, I mean, yes..?
Also Remus attempted to kill Roman later by giving him a fatal head injury-
Yup. Loki.
**Laufeyson eeee I love Loki and lol
@@aryehadventures9657 question, WhY iS eVeRy f--- mArVeL aCtOr sO HooOooOoOT like srsly i watched endgame 3x and i cried watching all of em i MISS loki, RDJ (ironman), C. Evans (cap), Natalia romanoff etc.
Correction Remus as entered the chat
This guy has an insane amount of talent. It's the therapist I need and the entertainment I wanted. Beautiful.
Thomas: _leaves one hint about the sides or something coming up_
Fandom: *_guys. guys... GUYS-_*
Exactly 😂😂😂😂
Thats what i was thinking!!!
And Dolls😂😂 I'm sorry not really
My Duke is who controls my answers in cards against humanity
Same...
The Ello also same
Cards Against Humanity is the counterbalance to our most innate sense of morality.
MagicRainbow Kitties this is true
The Ello TRUE
Virgil: because I was a dark side...
Audience: **pretends to be shocked**
*cue shocked pikachu meme*
Still cries although they already figured this out
I waz tho. _.
Ikr
Donut Dragon yeah 😂 that’s accurate
10:30 That neck crack and the look in Remus’s eyes just tells us that he has found new ammo to f*ck with Thomas, and how he kept bringing Jeffery Dahmer up just to disturb Thomas supports this
Virgil: Because I was one of them.
Fandom: *pretends to be shocked*
So true. We knew from the start
[insert surprised pikachu meme here]
Eye Am Patch Animations for me it was more of a shock that Thomas finally made it Canon
I don't think it was about the shock value so much as it was Virgil actually revealing his past to Thomas and trusting him with that information. It was about vulnerability and growth. Not just making something canon
I don't think it was about the shock value so much as it was Virgil actually revealing his past to Thomas and trusting him with that information. It was about vulnerability and growth. Not just making something canon
Virgil: You don’t eat deodorant
Remus: *...Maybe you don’t.*
It's the best line in the whole series
But can we just take a moment to look at how the flavor is literally "pickled poo logs?"
Like, Remus, my man, cool your jets 😅!
Kaito Dennis it is just a sticker or something but it’s still funny
Caroline Behlke, I would be really confused if stores actually sold that.
Why is there a sticker for that-
Emphasis on "you".
Nobody:
Remus: *Pulls out a knife then eats the deodorant*
Cresent Blader I just wanna say your content is *SO FRICKING* underrated
I simply ADORE Roman and Remus having two shadows in this video. I'm not sure whether the lighting usually works like that anyway, but when Remus' hands appeared it gave the effect that he was already standing there before he'd fully risen. peak cinematography
in the beginning-
"have you ever thought about killing your brother?"
*Proceeds to hit Roman with a mace*
Roman is Remus' brother
OOOOOOHHHHH NMMMMMYYYYYYY GOOIOOOOOODODODODIDIIDIFJFBBUncgsalyrlyralaurdut you. Are. Correct! Lol
😂😂😂😂
they did kinda say they were twins so
i mean- they did confirm that already...
OOOF
“Can we Logic our way out of this one..?”
Everyone: YEA-
“No not really, there’s no way to force intrusive thoughts out of your head , please pay attention”
Everyone: *got us in the first half not gonna lie*
I love how it kinda sounds like 'so you are gonna trust me on this and let me solve the entire situation like you wanted me to trust you in the beginning solving it by ignoring it? Well I can't do that. That was the whole point of what I was saying actually. Try remembering this; the only logic that can solve this is knowing that there is no simple solution. However, this does not mean we can't handle him, we just need to do it appropriately. So, that's rather simple.
Yes he did get us or at lest me
😂😂😂
Ashleyleaf Blade13 nah I said no
Ha lol
Virgil: “I freak out when Roman tells Thomas to talk to a cute guy”
Me: **giddy flashbacks to the animated episode**
Foreshadowing :D
I was about to say the same thing :0
Same OnO
HA
Lol
The way Virgil said "you bastard-"
LMAO THATS PERFECT GREAT JOB THOMAS!!!!
Late, but what's the timestamp, please?? :]
@@delilah.brooks 20:05 !