What if the Heavenly Kingdom Succeeded? | Alternate History

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  • Опубліковано 29 лис 2024

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  • @DeanMonsieur
    @DeanMonsieur  7 місяців тому +41

    Get ready for more animated videos! 🔥

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 7 місяців тому +1

      AWESOME

    • @epiceducation867
      @epiceducation867 7 місяців тому

      Let's goooooooooo🎉

    • @randomguy6152
      @randomguy6152 7 місяців тому

      What makes a video suggestion more likely to be accepted?

    • @JTL1776
      @JTL1776 7 місяців тому +1

      2 part Alternate History.
      Better Anglo-American world order.
      1. What if the Imperial Federation was successful.
      And
      2. What If America won both the Vietnam and Korean wars.

  • @gutz166
    @gutz166 7 місяців тому +170

    Meanwhile in another timeline : Protestant China vs Catholic Japan vs Orthodox Korea.

    • @DeanMonsieur
      @DeanMonsieur  7 місяців тому +68

      Buddhist Italy and the Confucian British Empire

    • @gutz166
      @gutz166 7 місяців тому +38

      @@DeanMonsieur Ah but you forget one crucial nation : Germanic Hindu Reich!

    • @DaTopHatPenguin
      @DaTopHatPenguin 7 місяців тому +19

      ​@@DeanMonsieur But I mean like, the Catholic Japan alternate history is also realistic, perhaps not Japan fully, but Kyushu specifically, most likely as a Spanish protectorate, as Spain could've supported their fellow Catholics to create another base in Asia, alongside The Philippines there.

    • @kraiser2487
      @kraiser2487 7 місяців тому +3

      ⁠@@DeanMonsieurnah we can’t forget about Buddhist Kalm- I mean, Russia

    • @jakedavidheilemann1208
      @jakedavidheilemann1208 7 місяців тому +3

      @@gutz166 true aryans

  • @imperialdragoon9715
    @imperialdragoon9715 7 місяців тому +88

    What if Novgorod formed Russia

  • @MonsieurDean
    @MonsieurDean 7 місяців тому +54

    No more anime?

    • @JustinianRomanov
      @JustinianRomanov 7 місяців тому +22

      Truely the Heavenly Kingdom

    • @Jack-g8n6j
      @Jack-g8n6j 7 місяців тому +3

      That's probably for the better

  • @perun5984
    @perun5984 7 місяців тому +48

    Taiping could've been for China, what Meiji restoration was for Japan, an era of rapid westernization and industrialization

  • @BrianKarolina-ip5mz
    @BrianKarolina-ip5mz 7 місяців тому +29

    CAn We Had Map Too During Alternate History Like other alternate history channels For Understanding what happen

    • @DeanMonsieur
      @DeanMonsieur  7 місяців тому +9

      We can make that happen in future videos!

    • @eduardorocha1585
      @eduardorocha1585 7 місяців тому

      ​@@DeanMonsieuryou could do like in your old vidros

  • @epiceducation867
    @epiceducation867 7 місяців тому +14

    Part 2! , PART 2! we need PART 2!!!!

  • @apple123and
    @apple123and 5 місяців тому +3

    Sun Yat-sen was a fan of Heavenly Kingdom. So, Heavenly Kingdom actually succeeded but in other way. Sun wanted to continue Heavenly Kingdom's idea, however, it was not beneficial to China. Eventually, Sun's idea was objected by warlord Yuan Shikai quickly.

    • @anandm4748
      @anandm4748 4 місяці тому

      @@apple123and Yuan Shikai was a devout Buddhist who opposed Sun's Christianization agenda.

  • @fresholiveoil6490
    @fresholiveoil6490 7 місяців тому +16

    What if Switzerland united Germany?

    • @Michael_Sangworth
      @Michael_Sangworth 7 місяців тому +1

      A lot of war wouldn’t happen that’s for sure

  • @uber-tionen9948
    @uber-tionen9948 7 місяців тому +7

    You are now, thanks to all of your videos, one of my prefered alternate history channel ! A question, would you do a sequel for this episode ? If yes this would be marvelous ! Thanks from France !

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 7 місяців тому +18

    Suggestion: What if Blessed Karl saved the Empire?

    • @crusader2112
      @crusader2112 7 місяців тому +1

      YES!

    • @Fact-fiend_1000ASMR.
      @Fact-fiend_1000ASMR. 7 місяців тому +2

      One of my favorite world leaders. A good man stuck in an impossible situation.

    • @crusader2112
      @crusader2112 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Fact-fiend_1000ASMR. A good man and The Last Knight of Europe. Have you read Charles Coulombe's book on him. "Blessed Charles of Austria"

    • @Fact-fiend_1000ASMR.
      @Fact-fiend_1000ASMR. 7 місяців тому +2

      @@crusader2112 No, I haven't. But I have plans to get it at some future point.
      Addendum: One of my interests is Early 20th Century Germanic Occultism. I wonder how those Volkish/Occult movements would have evolved in the wake of a surviving empire?

    • @crusader2112
      @crusader2112 7 місяців тому

      @@Fact-fiend_1000ASMR. I believe Catholicism would be dominate in his Empire. But I'm not very knowledgeable on Germanic Occultism.

  • @NCR-National-Reclamation-Gov
    @NCR-National-Reclamation-Gov 7 місяців тому +9

    What if the Spanish Loyalists managed to survive in Peru

  • @crusader2112
    @crusader2112 7 місяців тому +9

    What if Baron Ungern von Sternberg wasn't mutinied and escaped to Tibet?

    • @Fact-fiend_1000ASMR.
      @Fact-fiend_1000ASMR. 7 місяців тому +2

      I wish he had created his grand empire. A union of Russia, China and Mongolia.

    • @crusader2112
      @crusader2112 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Fact-fiend_1000ASMR. Definitely an interesting man. Brutal, but a necessary evil in the fight against Communism.

    • @Fact-fiend_1000ASMR.
      @Fact-fiend_1000ASMR. 7 місяців тому +3

      @@crusader2112 Though I don't think he could have run a modern state by modern standards. He was too reactionary even for back then. More warlord than modern leader. I like the man, but there would have been leadership issues.
      What if he met Zhang Zongchang, the Dogmeat General?

    • @crusader2112
      @crusader2112 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Fact-fiend_1000ASMR. I agree. He was a good general, but he needed a Czar or someone to reign him in. Someone like Pyotr Wrangel "The Black Baron" General of the White Army. His memoir "Always with Honor" is great by the way.

    • @Fact-fiend_1000ASMR.
      @Fact-fiend_1000ASMR. 7 місяців тому +1

      @@crusader2112 Wrangel or Ilyin. His book, On Resistance to Evil by Force, is great. Kolchak would have been a negatory. They would have butted heads way too much to maintain order.

  • @JamesPreus
    @JamesPreus 7 місяців тому +4

    Do you have list of ones you're planing to make, could that include a part 2 to this? Also, how do you think Christianity would have meshed with the traditional Martial arts of the Asian countries? Holy cow, Lutheranism! That's awesome! Subscribed and I wish I could like it thirty times.

    • @DeanMonsieur
      @DeanMonsieur  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the kind words! We've got a lot of great videos planned. Keep an eye out every Wednesday!

  • @SCWKorsgaard
    @SCWKorsgaard 7 місяців тому +4

    I hope there is a part 2 coming

  • @primicerius1492
    @primicerius1492 7 місяців тому +1

    Before I even watch, I think it's a little known fact that Britain intervened in random crises for the sake of their own economic interests. Two notable examples was intervening in the Ottoman Empire when it was being accosted by the Khedivate of Egypt. And the other notable example being the Taiping rebellion. Britain intervened for stable commerce and in doing so, robbed us of epic alternate history scenarios.

  • @Texasguy1836
    @Texasguy1836 7 місяців тому +3

    What if the Holy Roman Empire survived

  • @WarfareWizz
    @WarfareWizz 7 місяців тому +3

    Please do a what if the Spanish armada beat the British

    • @DeanMonsieur
      @DeanMonsieur  7 місяців тому +1

      A very interesting scenario! No East India company... massive ramifications on history!

  • @PaoloCavestro-ey9bb
    @PaoloCavestro-ey9bb 5 місяців тому +1

    What if Europe, Middle East, America and Africa had adopted the cult of Makima, Revy, Cutie Honey, Marin Kitagawa, Trixie Tang, Judy Neutron, Marge Simpson, Wendy Corduroy, Lois Griffin, Sailor Moon and Maddie Fenton instead of Abrahamic shit?

  • @1cupof6
    @1cupof6 7 місяців тому +6

    Part 2?

  • @brineo
    @brineo 7 місяців тому +5

    What if the United States never united (the 13 colonies split upon independence)
    What if there was a zombie apocalypse during the Napoleonic wars
    What if Japan fought until the last man
    What if India converted to Christianity
    What if the Spanish empire survived
    What if the Polish Lithuanian empire survived
    What if Italy colonized the Americas
    What if Europe was wiped out during the black death (70% of Europe)
    What if the Gilded age sparked a communist uprising
    What if the age of enlightenment never happened

    • @Jack-g8n6j
      @Jack-g8n6j 7 місяців тому +1

      Japan fighting until the last man has always been a very interesting concept to me. I don't know how realistic it is, but assuming Japan fights until the very last man with absolutely no chance of surrender, Operation Downfall would've likely occurred even with the nuking of two cities. In November, American forces would invade and capture the island of Kyushu as highlighted in Operation Olympic. Should this succeed, which it most likely would've due to Japan's state at that point in the war, Operation Coronet would be launched in early 1946 with an invasion of the Kanto Plain. The soviets would probably have invaded Japan's northern island of Hokkaido, as they already had invaded both Mongolia and Manchuria to an unsurprising success once Germany was dealt with. Casualties for Japanese civilians and servicemen alike were estimated to be between a million to the tens of millions. Keep in mind, cities would be continually firebombed, nuked, etc. Basically, cultural and population suicide. A situation far worse than the simple nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    • @ChildishSoap
      @ChildishSoap 5 місяців тому +1

      The second what if is just Guts and Blackpowder bruh

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 7 місяців тому +9

    Love this channel! Keep them coming 😊😊😊❤❤❤

  • @Emperor_Creeper
    @Emperor_Creeper 7 місяців тому +2

    Pretty cool. Im actually making an alternate history (Still being worked on) that has something like this!

  • @eduardorocha1585
    @eduardorocha1585 7 місяців тому +3

    What if the shimabara revolt sucseded?

  • @Typhoon-77
    @Typhoon-77 7 місяців тому +4

    Could you include more maps in the videos pls

  • @Mindfr3k24
    @Mindfr3k24 7 місяців тому +2

    Can you do a video on, What if Emperor Frederick the Barbarossa didn't drown in a river and was able to retake Jerusalem from Salahaddin and rein in the HRE for the creation centralized state, like France. The basis for this idea is that his Crusader Army was between 12000 and 20000 soldiers using moderate estimates and would likely be able to retake Jerusalem. He also had the political capabilities to rein in the nobility, especially in the rebellious Northern Italian states. Perhaps this would allow for a true German Empire and would certainnly upset the balance of power in Europe, especially the Pope.

    • @shulkash8799
      @shulkash8799 7 місяців тому

      To be fair, Frederick Barbarossa would have probably die during the crusades, because he was already 68 when he died, although a few more years could have made big changes in our history.

  • @memelord5366
    @memelord5366 7 місяців тому +6

    BROTHER OF JESUS LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO

  • @BigBroTejano
    @BigBroTejano 7 місяців тому +1

    If I recall correctly its leader also belonged to the “Hakka” Chinese, one of the many sub-cultural groups that comprise the “Ethnic Han.”
    A lot of overseas Chinese communities were either started by or even to this day still comprise mostly of those from the Hakka background.

  • @revinhatol
    @revinhatol 7 місяців тому +1

    Denmark

  • @calebtii6678
    @calebtii6678 7 місяців тому

    Please part 2

  • @PeterAndrewGrantPAG
    @PeterAndrewGrantPAG 7 місяців тому +2

    What if the USSR invaded Iran during the Iran Iraq war?

    • @Juan-qu4oj
      @Juan-qu4oj 7 місяців тому

      Why would they do that when they were in Afghanistan

  • @peterwainio2134
    @peterwainio2134 7 місяців тому +3

    Are you the second channel of Monsieur Z?

  • @fredrikjonsson-bj5ru
    @fredrikjonsson-bj5ru 7 місяців тому

    Part 2 !

  • @monsieurcharcutier4490
    @monsieurcharcutier4490 7 місяців тому +6

    What if Andrew Jackson had been chosen in 1824 by congress instead of Adam's? If he was first to serve 3 terms? What if he showed up as a zombie in the Czar Nicholas series?

    • @crusader2112
      @crusader2112 7 місяців тому +2

      Zombie Jackson yes please. And he is horrified by the Federal Reserve. hehe

  • @granildennuellefrayzenm7620
    @granildennuellefrayzenm7620 7 місяців тому +1

    What if Rome survived in America.

  • @Texasguy1836
    @Texasguy1836 7 місяців тому +1

    What if John D Rockefeller became president 💵💵💲💲💰💰💵💵💵💲💰💰💰💲💲💲💵💵💵💲💰💰💰💲💲💲💲

  • @danieltsiprun8080
    @danieltsiprun8080 7 місяців тому +1

    So, any relation to monsieur Z?
    I used to watch his channel a long time ago, and then i saw this channel thinking oh wow he changed his pfp lets check maybe he got better and now i see this is a completely different channel.
    So, were you a fan or just a coincidence?

    • @DeanMonsieur
      @DeanMonsieur  7 місяців тому +1

      I am Mr Z

    • @danieltsiprun8080
      @danieltsiprun8080 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@DeanMonsieur if that is so, why is your voice so different?

  • @MACKYBOY-41
    @MACKYBOY-41 6 місяців тому

    Good video

  • @randomguy6152
    @randomguy6152 7 місяців тому

    What if Crassus conquered Persia

  • @conorisacoff7910
    @conorisacoff7910 7 місяців тому +2

    What if John B. Anderson became President

  • @gocool_2.0
    @gocool_2.0 7 місяців тому +2

    What if India became pro US during the cold war?

    • @Juan-qu4oj
      @Juan-qu4oj 7 місяців тому

      Wouldn’t change much

  • @nord_anon4406
    @nord_anon4406 7 місяців тому +4

    Lutherans represent

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 7 місяців тому +2

    Idea: What if Napoleón IV survives and marries princess beatrice

  • @wargamesmaster
    @wargamesmaster 7 місяців тому +1

    What if Italy stayed Roman and returned to its Republican roots?

  • @Lukdnuke_Narson
    @Lukdnuke_Narson 7 місяців тому

    Neat

  • @NinjaofPain
    @NinjaofPain 6 місяців тому

    What if China converted to Manichaeism

  • @shinsenshogun900
    @shinsenshogun900 7 місяців тому

    This is actually a shitty outcome tbh
    Imagine being a cousin that chooses to coup d'etat the Chinese Jesus Christ by violence and somehow control a divisive kingdom by modernization alone. If anything, Reng'an should rather reduce the religious symbol of rebellion into a figurehead from even more seriously incompetent right hand men and keep the Heavenly Christian Hong imperial dynasty secure and stable without endangering the imperial clan and it's zealous followers.
    Also, had the Taiping been finally victorious and rule China, the Westerners that have unequally bullied the Qing Manchu dynasty into weakness would begin to feel what 1949 is to these colonialist jingoist opium peddling Europeans by the late 1860s, when they do anathema upon Beijing not as pious Lutherans, but vicious Chinese Christian syncretic crusaders.

  • @alecnygard1769
    @alecnygard1769 6 місяців тому

    I miss the old alternate history videos, I’m really not into the direction the Chanel’s are taking. The original page is all partisan like talk radio stuff now and this rather than pure alternate history and maps it’s like story telling and a lot of speculation :(

  • @randomguy6152
    @randomguy6152 7 місяців тому

    I think your channel covered this 1 before

  • @zakthebigmac1431
    @zakthebigmac1431 6 місяців тому

    what if poland turned taoist just for funzies

  • @adamelghalmi9771
    @adamelghalmi9771 4 дні тому

    1:01 this sounds like communism

  • @oliverstianhugaas7493
    @oliverstianhugaas7493 7 місяців тому +4

    My comment where i wished God's blessing on the people of the country of China was removed by UA-cam for Hate speech...

  • @lmperialist-Royalist
    @lmperialist-Royalist 7 місяців тому

    Early

  • @Polaris4Music
    @Polaris4Music 7 місяців тому

    Part 2?