Rings of Power Official Trailer BREAKDOWN | Lord of the Rings on Prime
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2022
- We got a surprise "official trailer" for The Rings of Power today - perhaps the final trailer before the first episode premieres, so we are going to break down the new shots and a couple interesting notes. Also, I think I've narrowed down a potentially huge moment in the series and how a lot of the storylines connect in a very specific location in Middle-earth - the future lands of Mordor!
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For a blind person like me, these breakdowns are a godsend. It’s like having audio description (because no one bothers to make that for a trailer). Thank you!
Rebecca Baumgarten dang. tell us more about your world and how you consume cinema?
Same here. Audio descriptions for trailers should be a thing.
@@Arcexey audiobooks most likely, that's when you don't need anyone to describt it for you.
I hope you can find a friend or family member who can give you a description of each scene. It cuts from scene to scene very quickly and the characters and background are very different for each scene.
So if you're blind, how did you find the video or type this.
Pretty sad that the music in your breakdown is better than the actual trailer.
ikr they butchered that trailer music, must have been an attempt to try and grab some casual fantasy fans...
Yeah that was terrible,
No kidding, that was kind of cringe. Amazon really should hire Nerd to make the next trailer for them lol.
what is the song he uses for this video?
Complain complain complain
I will say that the trailer music did not feel like lord of the rings and kind of conflicted with the dialogue in the trailer.
Agree, whoever is in charge of the trailers really messed up.
What was it? “Find your purpose.”?(Vomit)
That's what i wanted to type also, completely agree!
Yea the whole marketing team really dropping the ball here. Idk what they are smoking.
Completely agree! This project has Howard Shore working on it and they chose that, why?
Pretty sad when we’re more worried that might be Gandalf than excited.
I really love Gandalf but doesn't he very specifically not interfere in the affairs of middle Earth until the 3rd age, where he finally steps up to become the wise hero/leader in the war of the ring.
I wouldnt mind seeing Gandalf again but I kind of like the mystery of not knowing where he was for 1000s of years during the 1st and 2nd ages
@@chrisrock219 Gandalf and the other wizards were actually Maia who were sent by the Valar to Middle Earth in the 3rd age to help men who were falling under Sauron's influence. The Blue Wizards might have showed up in the second age but Tolkien is clear that Gandalf did not.
I’m going to call Tom Bombadil
@@chrisrock219 Gandalf was simply chilling in Valinor with the other Maiar through the 1st and 2nd age no?
@@julesbedard6046 that is correct. Gandalf learned from the greatest variety of Valor than the other Mair destined to be Istari. Olion was his name in Valinor.
If Amazon knows what's good for them, this dude is one of the two blue wizards ... who Tolkien wrote enough about for them arrive in the second age and it be ok. We don't know much about them. Tolkien writes as if he speculates about the blue wizards ... stating with more certainty that they aided in the defeat of Sauron at the end of the second age, and noting with less certainty they may have pursued their own interests after that, or fallen to Sauron.
One way to do it, that I think would be compelling and honor both possibilities, is that one of the Wizards becomes a twisted servant of the Dark Lord, and the other dies in such a way that aids in making sure Sauron is taken down.
This creates a precedent for the Valor to send more Istari in the third age.
Bottom line. Some say they have insider info that pins the two meteor men as Saruman and Gandalf. And if that is the case ... I'm out. I don't mind a respectful 'historical fiction' take if done right ... but if you screw the timeline that bad ... you have no regard for fans or Tolkien.
Cautiously optimistic here.
No, you're right, the music was an abysmal choice for the trailer. Especially a final trailer at that. Exciting theories about Halbrand being shady and the eruption of Orodruin, but if they give us a Halbrand/Galadriel romance imma break my TV.
Glad people agree. Was a pretty cool trailer but the music made it feel so artificial and not an "Ancient Fantasy" vibe. Hopefully just a screwup by the marketing team, I hope slipups like this aren't in the final products.
They pretty much confirmed that being 5 seasons the show will explore Galadriel and Celeborn meeting and marrying
Hm, I actually really liked the music. Oh well. To each their own. Kinda fun how people come away with different interpretations.
100%! It’s the one thing I really dread.
It really isn't that much of a stretch to have a Galadriel who leaves her family to pursue who own selfish revenge have an affair with Halbrand. It seems totally natural. This the domino effect of lore violations. It causes second, third, fourth, etc lore violations.
At this point I would not even be surprised if it's actually a jeep standing in middleearth. Remember when the Dwarfs invented cars in the second age?
…well, Tolkien never said there were no Jeeps in Middle-Earth, so…
Definitely a tesla
@@nodescriptionavailable3842 The Tesla Truck for sure
"My brother gave his life hunting the enemy."
Didn't Finrod die saving Beren? He was a warrior but for me his strengths are more to arts and culture. ( Teaching the first tribes of Edain and his duel with Sauron) maybe the flashback is from a battle in Dagor Bragollach.
I believe it's a scene from Dagor Bragollach too. I really hope they don't ruin Finrod's backstory, but i'm not hopeful.
Yes. He wrestled with the werewolf, and slew it with his hands and teeth. Yet he himself was mortally wounded, and he died in the dark, in Tol-in-Gaurhoth, whose great tower he himself had built. Thus King Finrod Felagund, the fairest and most beloved of the house of Finwë, redeemed his oath. And, because of Finrod's noble actions in life, and his reluctance to journey to Middle-earth, he was reincarnated after only a short time.
I suppose it's because they don't have rights to Silmarillion, I've heard they are allowed to take only some things with permission from Tolkien Estate.
@@lupeguadaloupe7686 yes yes yes
@@lupeguadaloupe7686 wasn't that what he was hunting the werewolf and wasn't his name called carcorth
Imagine if late 90's Peter Jackson was given this series and this budget.
Bruh.... I have this lingering hope that Jackson would see how much of. Aflop this show will be and team up with Warner Bros to start their own series.
His movies weren't perfect and they left stuff out and added things that were questionable. But nowhere near the level of these turds.
@@AyeTeeJay91 you’re kidding? You do know that Christopher Tolkien hated his movies…
@@mckenanbundy3578 what does that mean to me? I read most of the books and have followed Tolkiens universe since my dad used to read the books to me at bedtime when I was a little boy. I know they weren't perfect. But there is a reason they are some of the greatest movies of all time. Their shortcoming pale in comparison to what Amazon is doing.
Then it would actually be watchable
He would eventually butcher the lore like he did in the Hobbit series. First two Lotr movies are great though.
Mixed Feelings about this whole show, on one side it’s great to explore Middle-Earth more but on the the other side i feel like people are trying to make Tolkien into something his not
they ignore everything tolkien wrote about. all there is is a cringe fan fiction made by activists for activist. they are abusing the name of tolkien to push their messages nothing more.
Because of race and some dubious bad characterization of Galadriel? Idk man, I think people are exaggerating.
@@lucabarbieri6943 nah they are making so much that is not canon and ruining the images of beloved characters that’s why!
And what is Tolkien?
@@Seven_Kingdoms77 How much canon do you want them to use if the second age is the time which we have less information ? Is imposible to please you on that aspect.
For me the complete absence of Sindarin, Quenya and Khuzdul in the trailers is kinda upsetting
So true!
I'm not sure the producers/showrunners know what Sindarin etc is, nor if they ever read any of Tolkien's writings...
K I N D A
It’s really not that big a deal
@@robertmeadows2450 for you.
Why change Finrod's death at all?! Why diminish his amazing role, heroism and selflessness?
There's still a chance the enemy she referenced was Morgoth. Not perfect, but better than pretending he was hunting sauron.
This shows a huge bummer to Tolkien fans. Children of hurin is my favorite book too of the first age
Will Finrod’s death happen in The First Age? Or The Second? Will he be defending Beren in the old (now perverted) Minis Tirith tower? Somehow, I doubt it.
We don't know that his death was changed. We've only seen like 5 seconds of his character.
I’m thinking the way the trailer is cut could be misleading. As referenced in the video, his wounds indicate a possible connection to his end in the Silmarillion.
I would love to be excited for this show and just enjoy it for what it is, but i just can't... something is off, i mean not just something almost everything. Landscapes are beautiful tho
Look at the pretty lights….
Just say it... Feminism, lgbt, toxic masculinity, forced diversity and all the other crap that doesn't belong in Tolkien's universe. That's what is off here, just like in every other movie, series nowdays. This show failed before it even began. Go, elves, dwarves and Númenóreans of colour, yes!
I saw this comment on another video. I have seen a ton of money, but have not seen the heart.
PJ films, despite some detractors, maintain that heart and spirit of Tolkien.
I feel that have the showrunners been honest from the get go, instead of constant damage control, more fans would be willing to give this a go.
If beautiful landscapes but not substance is your thing, go play a Ubisoft game.
@@denglongfist4270 Honestly, that's not true. Even if Amazon had the showrunners speaking publicly early on and saying the right things plenty of people would still be "boycotting" the show.
As of right now, we haven't seen any of the episodes, so I would suggest watching the first two episodes when they drop next week AND THEN people can form an honest opinion
Finrod wasn't hunting the enemy, though one of the reasons for the flight of the Noldor was to defeat Morgoth and recover the silmarils, besides creating free kingdoms in middle-earth. We'll see how they depict this.
They won't. They're more concerned with making a woke lord of the rings.
@@edamnaf9265 I'm not talking about what Amazon wants, I'm talking about the silmarillion. You guys are obsessed and traumatized about it😂
Wether what this series turns out to be, I'll judge it september 2nd, by now I'm going back to the books!
Finrod never went to Beleriend for revenge... he went out of love for his kinsmen of Fingolfin and his kinsmen. So saying he died "hunting the enemy" goes against his entire character and history. Especially since he was one of the most crucial elves in all the First Age, even rivaling Feanor. His alliance of Elves and Men, him being saved by Barahirn and his army, going with Beren and dying saving his life, Beren and Luthien stealing the Silmaril, Earnedil and Elwing, both Elf and Man at once, pleading to the Valar and leading the host of Valinor to defeat Morgoth.... but nah, he just died hunting Sauron/Morgoth because he's a throwaway dead Elf to motivate Galadriel to become Xena Warrior Princess.
@@nonenone6704 I think it all comes with what they have rights to. Finrod got caught in the doom of mandos that fell uppon the noldor, though the question is: can they explain this? I'm sure they would if they could, but they cannot. That's why Finrod "was hunting the enemy"😐
@@darksider4736 Ah, so you are arguing that the reason the story goes against so much lore is because they don't have the rights to said lore? I mean... but even the appendices still has the basic outline, it seems they are going against even their own material they have the rights to.
Quite honestly I'm not at all excited for this anymore. I was hoping we would finally see an adaptation that would pay its respects to the beauty and poetry of Tolkien's world, something truly fantastical. Meanwhile this just looks like every other action fantasy out there.
The woke pandering makes it much worse than an average fantasy story.
its not tho lol
I'm going to wait until it is actually out before I'll judge it.
@@virreification yes the same
@@CC-ot9pn which comment are you talking about it lol
Your analysis of this trailer makes it look much better than it actually is, perhaps because it lacks the awful music in the final trailer.
yep,. that awesome Jack REacher dramatic trailer soundtrack... duhn! duhnnnn!
He's a fanboy...
This video has 2000+ dislikes btw.
Edit: 5600 now. Thats 2600 dislikes in ONE day.
Second edit... 10.000+ dislikes 😆😅🤣
@@alexjones4701 how do you know?
@@alexjones4701 yes I can see that, I'm one of them, his gullible optimism towards rings of power is irritating to the majority of fandom whereas others tire of constant criticism.
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"Thus he came alone to Angband's gates, and he sounded his horn, and smote once more upon the brazen doors, and challenged Morgoth to come forth to single combat. And Morgoth came."
Yes, Fingolfin did that precise thing. Not Finrod (aka Galadriel's brother).
There is easily enough time for Galadriel to turn into her character in LOTR.
However, the LOTR isn't the only thing Tolkien wrote that Galadriel is in. She is also in The Silmarillion, and this is a complete contradiction of that character. Galadriel did not march to Middle Earth with the rest of the Noldor to fight Melkor or Sauron or orcs. It isn't that she couldn't. It is that she had no interest in it. Rather than involve herself in those wars, she left Beleriand so she could rule a kingdom of her own with her husband.
CORRECT!
Yeah just watching the scene of her in the armour entering numenor made me think that this portrayal just takes away all of her power, respectability and nobility/ almost divinity.
She just looks like a discount princess and interchangeable with any "princess rebels against society and is in reality total badass that owns everyone while making worse cringy one liners than arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime" mary sue character we have been flooded with in recent years. Well let's hope the show-writers didn't go for as cheap of a story for her as her trailer appearance makes me fear they might have done
It's disgusting what they're doing to Galadriel, turning her into a cheap modern femenism icon... By simply filling masculine social tropes with female character types who embody those very tropes it might not be so much an elevation of the femenine as much as a blind attachment to the masculine qualities as the ones that actually matter. These corporations couldn't tell their right from their left.
You know they don't have the rights to the Silmarillion, right?
@@NikolisKitchen true, but they are not allowed to contradict what is written in any of the Middle-Earth material written by the Tolkiens (JRR and Christopher). This ROP Galadrial contradicts what is written in the Silmarilion.
I think Sauron is trying to unite Morgoth's forces under his banner. Many of Morgoth's forces is likely divided among various warlords and priests. It is rumored that Adar is not on good terms with Sauron but follows the newly proclaimed dark lord nevertheless. Adar likely was more loyal to Morgoth but not to Sauron.
Who?
Who is adar?
@@funeralangelo He is a fallen elf that leads the orcs to invade and conquer the southeastern land which later becomes Mordor.
@@ryankwon8785 ah, an original character from the series I see
Sauron was in charge of the casting.
What does Galadriel have to do with Numenor? She never was in Numenor.
And btw, where is her husband Celeborn and her daughter Celebrian??
in the 3 pages of the appendix about the second age she was not mentioned, but that does not prove anything. Every other writing (like Silmarillion) is NOT canon and can not be treated as source for this show (even if they wanted to, they don´t have the rights)
You have no idea where she was - there are thousands of years with scarcely a mention of most individual elves. Did they stay in one building for hundreds of years at a time? Of course not.
@@NickNobody161 Silmarillion IS canon.
@@bbcccccccccbcb if you say that, than are all other stories canon that were released posthumous. Then we have multiple stories and world building that contradict each other. JRR didn´t relase it himself for a reason.
Finrod is laid out for burial, holding his dagger. It is plainly to be grave-goods, the precious object interred with its owner. Like the Arkenstone in the tomb of Thorin. Then Galadriel plucks it from him. How off is that?
That whole scene is wrong on so many levels. She shouldn't even be there since Beren and Luthien buried him at his Minas Tirith.
That mass grave of elven helmets was also really weird, it looked more like they were grave robbing
@@waylander9265 the mass grave is exactly what happens at the Nirnaeth Arnoediad. Only it's not just Elves that fight, but also Humans and even Dwarves if I recall correctly. However, the battle shown, to me, is more likely the Dagor Bragollach featuring the Balrogs and the dragon, therefore the flames. At least I hope that's what it is.
But yeah, taking a dagger from your brother's death bed really seems super odd. A sword, MAYBE, cause that's a meaningful weapon and they were often conserved and passed down to siblings or the next generation. Since he had no kids, Galadriel would be next of kin. But what is she supposed to kill with a dagger?? From what we saw in the trailer footage so far, I fear it's going to be the Sea Serpent.
@@MehIgotnothing wow no
@Flying Bagpipe no it's certainly the Nirnaeth Arnoediad. Just finished re-reading the Silmarillion. It's called the "Hill of Tears" or "Haudh-en-Nirnaeth".
the lack of celebrimbor in all trailers is interesting.. i feel like he should be a big focal point to the story
You are right. You would think that the creator of the rings of power would play a central role in a show called the rings of power.
I think Cele will increase in prominence through the seasons.
They said season 1 is more just setting up the world and he's not gonna do a whole lot right now. This is a rare case of a show planning out all its seasons in advance, and by season 2 he'll be a main character
Why does he look like a 60 year old wine mom? He’s much younger than Galadriel. Doesn’t look like an elf at all for that matter. Uggh!
He is dead so he cant be here
I don't think there is a single shot in this trailer that accurately depicts something Tolkien wrote.
There is none
I think This whole section of the book is written in broad generalities that read like a high-school history book. There are a ton of things that accurately reflect his writing, but his writing was broadbrush strokes while this is a story with characters to flesh out.
I suspect he would love what is being done here.
@@jakmcintosh really? How so?
@@thanesgames9685 I think it's a bit of stretch to say he'd "love" it, since we don't really know what type of characters he had in mind for this story, but I agree that the way it is written is very broad and undefined. We have thousands of pages for lotr and it's characters, but the second age is only mentioned in past tense or overviewed in the Akabellath
@@thanesgames9685 You are delusional then.
The music you put to this video is better than what was playing in the actual trailer. It didn’t feel right. Nice job!!
What is the song is this video? i cant find it..
So true! Great observation!😁👍
@@simonnadeau8995 I’m trying to find it too
@@joswak6407 same here. I've heard it before, maybe from a movie I think
@@joswak6407 Did you find it?😁
“Evil sure is bad and we have to stand against it.” Lmao. Fair that really is a good summary of most of the trailers dialogue thus far.
Well, that's the story of Middle Earth for you. Kinda Tolkiens thing.
that’s an unfair criticism, the original Lord of the Rings was about defeating absolute evil and included plenty of lines in kind
@@wizarddragon yeah
"I have been out hunting the enemy, you know to hunt the enemy. There are no more enemies? Well you just have not seen the enemy..."
Pretty much sums up the dialog in this show.
@@GrayCatbird1 I think it’s mostly a joke, about how trailers in general kind of do the evil is rising and we have to do stuff about it but are kind of vague, same beats, no details. I don’t think anyone is knocking the good v evil struggle as a concept for the story.
I too hope they get Elendil right, but given that they felt the need to create a completely invented daughter for him, I'm not going to hold my breath. If they muck up Finrod, though, I will be absolutely steamed because this is one character who deserves only the best treatment. Oh, and remember: they're not Hobbits, they're Harfoots. Completely different! 😁 (And if you believe that, here is this beautiful shiny ring I will give you free gratis and for nothing).
Yes! Finrod is literally the most purehearted Elf in all of Middle Earth, coming not for revenge or the Silmarils but to protect the other elves from Morgoth. His forming of the alliance of men and elves was the start that led all then way Arwen and Aragorn marriage at the very end of the Lord of the Rings. Let alone all the other things he did in the middle.
Nice try Sauron!
Only on this channel and perhaps Men of the West’s channel do you find people still holding out hope or even flat out supporting this garbage…
Reading through this comment section alone it’s become abundantly clear that this show is dividing the fan base already.
We shouldn’t be fighting each other but unite to fight this greedy corporation and its talentless producers which *clearly* have no passion for Tolkien and only sees in his work dollar signs and money bags…
@@JayJay5244 "'That is one thing that Men call "hope",' said Finrod. Amdir we call it, "looking up". But there is another which is founded deeper. Estel we call it, that is "trust." It is not defeated by the ways of the world, for it does not come from experience, but from our nature and first being. If we are indeed the Eruhín, the Children of the One, then He will not suffer Himself to be deprived of His own, not by any Enemy, not even by ourselves. This is the last foundation of Estel, which we keep even when we contemplate the End: of all His designs the issue must be for His Children's joy. Amdir you have not, you say. Does no Estel at all abide?'" 😀 I'm living in hope (estel), though I fear you may be right!
@@maryokeeffe3528 Estel we call it, that is "trust." It is not defeated by the ways of the world...
.... He will not suffer Himself to be deprived of His own, not by any Enemy, not even by ourselves.
...This is the last foundation of Estel, which we keep even when we contemplate the End:
... of all His designs the issue must be for His Children's joy.
Sadly, or rather, .... it seems that Estel is not to hope for victory in the present, but at the end of all things. So no matter what happens with Rings of Power... even if the worst happens... Estel lives on in spite of that... but we can always hope for a Eucatastrophe, a brief glimpe of the final victory given to us in the darkest hour.
Well this is the most optimistic take I've seen on this show so far.
It even evolved to be this positive after he was invited by Amazon. My boy is getting a good job
@@WilliamScotch Jesus Christ UA-cam comments are full of toxic twats.
He is just a Evil Human corrupted by real life Morgoth & Sauron(Jeff Bezos & Amazon) .....
The Stranger certainly feels VERY much like Gandalf. But I’m also hoping for blue wizards.
Maybe it's Tom Bombadil, since I don't remember Tolkien ever detailing when and how he showed up.
@The Rotten💯 so technically, Tolkien contradicted himself on when wizards could show up. It was always evolving. Originally all wizards showed up in the third age. But later he wrote about how the blue wizards showed up in the 2nd. As long as it is done well, I can see any possibilities being okay.
Maybe he is a Maiar with a split mind due to past trauma caused by Morgoth. and when Sauron makes his appearance he'll revert back to his corrupted state and turns into a Balrog, killing the Harfoots and only a few remain. They will be forced to leave their environs and cross the mountains to the West and they will be the first to settle and live in holes, as the first Harfoots that call themselves Hobbits.
My theory is that it’s the Man-in-the-moon from Tolkien’s poetry - he’s going to go drink that brown beer in Bree
@The Rotten💯 they don't seem to care about the timeline of events, so it's still possible
4:08 could this be a flashback about the origin of the orcs? Melkor priests luring innocent elven children to corrupt them later making the first orcs
That would make sense.
That's an interesting point
But where's Celeborn?
There are 5 seasons i think we will most likely see him later, but not having him in from the beginning is fked up...
At home cooking lol
All optimism from this point onwards has to be based on accepting Galadriel as a completely new character. I mean, that was heavily hinted before, but that bit of dialogue with Finrod basically guarantees it.
We will have a second age "hothead warrior princess" Galadriel.
Isn't she the most powerful elf in middle earth though?
@@SunnyLovetts By the lore, she was considered second in power and only to Feanor, though greater in wisdom.
She just didn't do any of this in the lore. In her wisdom, she avoided the fighting and disdained the sons of Feanor and their foolish oath.
@@MrSneaksful Right. I'm assuming that the elf trapped in battle is supposed to be Finrod, in which case we're breaking the story of Beren and Luthien. I'd be kinda surprised if the Tolkien Estate let that one go.
Maybe it's Orodreth? Aegnor? The line itself still doesn't make sense.
@@jesseparrish1993 she was involved in the Kinslaying and was meant to be phyically and mentally the best along with Feanor.
@@beecee2205 I don't recall Tolkien ever describing Galadriel being involved in a physical fight, though correct me if I'm mistaken. "Power" didn't refer to muscle, as seen e.g. when her brother Finrod fought Sauron in song.
"involved in"
Her mother was Teleri. The only reference to her in the kinslaying was her opposition. In fact, the *only* reference to Galadriel that *could* be interpreted as physical fighting was that she "fought fiercely against" Feanor in defense of her kin. Tolkien didn't flesh this one out, but in what he did write, she did not participate.
If Durin III is only a vision, why wouldn't Durin IV already be king and ruler?
Until he smashes the rock with Elrond, to prove worthiness?
Because his father, whose name is not Durin, is alive?
@Tim van der Velden Ah, a helpful response! Thank you that clears it up. The vision theory makes more sense now.
@Tim van der Velden It is problematic, but it makes sense if you are forced to tighten the timeline.
@@barbarossarotbart No one forced them to tighten the timeline.
I still wish that Amazon had started this show earlier so that you could easily make 5+ seasons of material with:
1) The creation of Middle-Earth, Morgoth's Lucifer like dissent from the Valar, destruction of the two pillars, and then end with his 1st defeat
2) Morgoth's return, the Oath of Feanor, the destruction of the two trees, the first kinslaying, and the duel with Fingolfin
3) The story of Beren & Luthien, the duel of Sauron/Finrod, Battle of Unnumbered Tears, and end with Morgoth's curse for the Children of Hurin
4) The story of Turin, the dwarves killing of Thingol, the 2nd kinslaying, and the Fall of Gondolin
5) The 3rd kinslaying, Earendil's visit to Valindor, and the War of Wrath
6) The Rings of Power being forged, Sauron's surrender to Numenor, the emergence of the Nazgul, and the downfall of Numenor
7) The creation of Gondor/Arnor, the last alliance war against Sauron, and Isildur's death and loss of the One Ring
8) If this all goes well still, you could add a season of the Witch King's Northern Conquest and end with their taking of Minas Ithil/Morgul
That would be great. Unfortunately, the Tolkien Estate wasn't interested in selling the rights to those stories at this time. They were specifically looking for someone to make their own stories in the mostly unwritten 2nd Age, which is what Amazon is delivering. Perhaps if this does well they'll open up the rights for 1st Age adaptations in the future. Those ones can follow the lore more closely because there is a heck of a lot more written about the events in those stories.
Weird seeing the Elves struggle in the snow when Legolas proved in FOTR that cold, snow, and stuff shouldn't affect them.
A lot of the elves actually died walking through the Helcaraxë, which is basically a cold winter wasteland when they were left on the shores of Aman by Feanor when he took the ships to Middle Earth. So I suppose that while a little snow isn't a death sentence to elves, a winter wasteland would kill them... so it's legit under the lore :-)
@@ricardochristie1 yeah there is a difference between just walking on the snow that lying on the ground and tryign to push thorugh a strong blizzard
Tell me you haven’t read the Silmarillion without telling me you haven’t read it..
Helacaraxë? Thousands of elves died in a setting similar to this.
@@hamzapetridis206 I have read it but clearly that part wasn't interesting enough to remember 🤣
Last trailer had my attention, this one sort of made me worried again, but I really think it was the music and how it was cut more so then the footage.
I totally agree. I don't understand why how now we have the incredible soundtrack (like seriously Bear killed it) and none of it was used for this trailer. I also agree that this trailer definitely made me feel more worried than before a little bit.
@@Robofish12 the music in this trailer was bad, but nobody should worry about it... the people who do the trailers are not those who do the show... those who do the show are too busy doing the show to bother editing trailers.
@@segments2156 Oh yeah, that's definitely a good point. I didn't dig it, but I understand why they would've used it.
@@Robofish12 John Campea (a youtuber who knows a bit about Hollywood) says that this trailer is so different from the others that it has probably been made by a different trailer company...
Also, at comic con, the showrunners said the SDCC trailer was the final trailer..
So there is a possibility that this trailer is a trailer that had been ditched, possibly a proposition from a different company, but suddenly, Amazon marketing team decided that they should put a last trailer, just after HBO released the first episode of House of the Dragon, to remind everyone that another big fantasy show is coming, and the company that did all the other trailers did not have the time to do another one, so they used this one... who... as John Campea said, looks like it's for a totally different show...
But that's not a big issue, anyone who is interested in this show, even those who claim they hate it, will watch the premiere, and when they do, only the quality of the show will matter.
@@segments2156 Well I hope so that this is the case because boy that was an awful trailer. Its crazy to me that Amazon would release something so important so lightly but maybe its truth that when it releases only the quality will matter, though I suspect people will have few patience regarding this show because of the marketing.
And talking about it, Amazon should fire ALL of their marketing people because the work the have done the past 6 months "promoting" Rings of Power has been pure garbage, they completely made the hardcore fans an enemy of them and those made plenty of casuals have pre conceived (bad) opinions on this show.
I really cant understand how the Amazon heads allowed this to happen, marketing should be the easier part of the job but they butchered, and Im afraid the series will have to really good for people to change their made opinion that this will suck.
The 'burned out jeep' looks similar to the Harfoots cart to me that you also see in minute 1:34 of the trailer and 8:53 of this video, mostly looking at the wheels. Maybe some sort of wagon?
Also, thanks for doing these! When I saw the trailer late in the evening my time I was wondering if I'd have your analysis in the morning and lo and behold.
EDIT: The music in the trailer, which I agree does not feel very Tolkien at all, still felt familiar for some reason and I just found it. It is a very similar sound and even cut as the Epic Official Trailer #1 (as in the first official trailer for the movie Epic). It fitted that trailer a lot better though.
The music by itself is not awful but it simply takes you away from the world because it doesnt fit tolkien
I have confirmation that it’s a burned out ‘69 Volkswagen bug
While I appreciate your childlike optimism I fear it is greatly misplaced.
One thing that elevated the LotR movie trilogy was that so much of the dialog was pulled directly from the books. This isn't the case here and it shows.
I won't be watching this.
In fairness, Tolkien didn't write much dialogue for the Second Age.
But Galadriel's line "Even stone cannot hide the mark of whose very hand is flame unquenched." sounded very Tolkienian, so we know they're capable of writing authentic dialogue.
Yes. They definitely pulled their dialogues out of each others' backsides.
@@JainaSoloB312 True but since they bought the wrong books the little he did write won't help them. That one line is good but from the rest of the trailer dialog I'm not hopeful.
Yep thats one of the things that makes tolkien stand out from other fantasy series, his command and skill with language was the highest i have ever seen, and his dialogue felt straight from a mythology of a long time gone by, which helps with immersion and the epicness of the story, but its a fine line to walk, if one doesnt have the quality necessary when following this approach the dialogue can feel cringe very easily, at the same time if they dont follow this approach it will feel generic and cheap. That will be the hardest thing for them to write and get it right, but I doubt they will be able to deliver since they cant even release proper trailers that honour Tolkien's feelings of Middle earth.
4:55 I am pretty sure that there was a warg in a previous trailer and it looked more similar to the ones in the Peter Jackson movies. These seem to be completely new creatures, that look like they are based on extinct entelodonts or "hell pigs" (although they are more closely related to hippopotamuses than to pigs).
for a long time I felt that entelodonts or Andrewsarchus could be better wargs than the wolflike creatures so long depicted.
LO! HERE THEY ARE!!!
maybe they're werewolves, which are mentioned a few times in the SIlmarillion separately to wargs, and are usually commanded by Sauron so it would make sense
I can't be the only one that thought that!
Yes! I noticed the hoofs and thought of those 'hell pigs'. Saw it in a documentary once. Didn't know their scientific name. More closely related to hippos you say? Cool! So hippos are like aquatic hellpigs!
@@roddo1955 Considering how dangerous hippos can be that would be a fitting name for them.
I do belive the shots we've seen of that blast in Tirharad, and the shots of Galadriel waking in the Ash are definitely from one of the last episodes where Orodruin has erupted from the coming of Sauron! There's a song from the album "Where the shadows lie", which is clearly from the ring verse!!
Does it hurt you in the head when you have to forget ~90% of the second age texts doing these?
Have been able to see nothing but Eowyn in this version of Galadriel as well, even the actress is giving Eowyn vibes in appearance.
i'm not sure she will be "Eowyn" like... Eowyn is shaped by her rejection of the role society gives to women... this Galadriel doesn't look like she has this issue. Nobody has been shown telling her that a woman should not fight... Even when Elrond tells her to stop fighting, he doesn't tell her "this is not the place of a lady", he just tells her that she has fought enough...
Their character arcs seem very different...
@@segments2156 The things is Galadriel in the show doesn’t have to come up against characters telling her she can’t be a warrior because the show runners are already saying that themselves with this forced rebranding of a magical being into that of an Eowyn like shield-maiden taking up the sword after the loss of her kin at the hands of the enemy (think Theodred). They’re clearly doing it to make a statement about how badass women can be but this is what’s so stifling about it because we already have characters like Eowyn and Galadriel is badass for different reasons that have nothing to do with swordsmanship/battle.
Her talents in the books have always been of a magical nature, she was after all the pupil of two very mystical Valar and Melian the Maia whom she seems to have borrowed the Doriath shroud magic from in protecting Lothlorien. And of course her possession of extreme beauty (remarkable even among a race known for its fairness) used to her advantage to disarm outsiders/potential threats (she’s also supposed to be like the tallest she-elf among her people).
Just seems very clear that the writing team are huge fans of female warriors/Eowyn’s overall “vibe” and have appropriated it for Galadriel since they don’t know how to handle a magical seductress character in todays cultural landscape. It also doesn’t help that the actress looks like a young Miranda Otto instead of a young Cate Blanchett (which I know this is a different take entirely but still can’t help and make that comparison).
@@andrewsartduchy7721 no
@@segments2156 That's not entirely true. In the movies, it's heavily implied that Eowyn couldn't fight because she's a woman. In the books, she couldn't fight because she was left in charge of Rohan when Theoden left to fight. It had nothing to do with society thinking women are lesser and everything to do with the fact that she had other, arguably more important responsibilities.
@@noellegoble7944 Yeah sure... that's why at Helm's Deep, all the women and children are in the glittering caves while the men are fighting, and that's why Eowyn has to disguise as a man when she wants to go to the battle...
If it was not a question of her being a woman, she could have gone the Pelennor fields battle as a woman, after all, all she needed is that nobody recognise her identity...
If what you are saying was right... why would you have so many people angry at the idea that there may be women fighting in the Numenorean army?
Stop bullsh*tting yourself and stop trying to bullsh*t everybody...
Eowyn cannot go fighting because she's a woman. The "no you can't fight because we need you to keep an eye on those who cannot fight" is an excuse they give her so she would not try to do what she wants to do... if it was true, there would be 50/50 women fighting at Helm's Deep, there would be 50/50 men in the glittering caves, and not just the children or the very old men...
You are fooling noone... except maybe yourself...
Oh...this series is a Comedy Spoof ?!?
As soon as I saw the 75 year old man playing Celebrimbor,
With that ACE Hardware salesman haircut,
I Should Have Known 🤦♂️
😁👍
This whole series is like one huge "Saturday Night Live" Skit !
Brilliant !!
When Galaderial said the line about her brother I yelled “He was killed by a werewolf!” So loud my teenaged son came out of his room to see if I was alright!.
Why so many dislikes? This is a very factual and unbiased trailer breakdown.
People are mad at the shows creators for obvious reasons and NOTR being even somewhat positive about what could be going on creates some sort of toxic reflex where they have to dislike anyone that speaks even remotely in a somewhat positive way on this upcoming show. It's completely ridiculous and pre-mature, but then again LOTR fans can be pretty toxic and obsessive with Tolkien's world.
@@laurencesabel7238 I get your point. but it is generally assumed that, if you are going to use someone's work to make money, then you should, at the least, be faithful to the original work. And if you can't be faithful for whatever reason, then don't use their name in promotions. Tolkien has not written any of this. So naturally fans are going to be upset as they feel cheated.
@@laurencesabel7238 I definitely have some concerns about the show too, but I'll still give it a chance lol. NOTR doesn't deserve any hate for trying to be positive about it. He seems like a legit nice dude who just loves LOTR.
@@russ8446 He's getting paid by Amazon to shill the show.
@@TheReallyRealSunTzu Tolkien didn't write any of the Peter Jackson films and he took some liberties as well with the shooting of that. Christopher Tolkien hated the movies and didn't think they honored his fathers work, but we all loved it. Why not give this show it's fair shot as well. It's not going to be on the same level as the Trilogy, but everything is just getting hated on that isn't the original films or the books and that's just so gatekeepy to me. The Hobbit is still enjoyable even if it never made sense to make it 3 films or the fact it took some liberties as well. This show might very well just be enjoyable as well even if it is not a cinematic masterpiece.
the oliphaunt in the room is how hard the public is rejecting this show
"Look how they massacred my boy"
-J.R.R. Tolkien
I would LOVE to see Halbrand be Sauron actually deceiving people, and not the skinny creepy kid
Maybe the kid can be the future witch king and Halbrand Sauron? Kid already has a circular mark on his arm but it lacked the slit eye in the middle. In the previous trailer, Meteor man's crater had the same pattern as the kids' on the outer rim and he was right in the middle, making the crater look like an eye. So now I am thinking...fallen Maiar? Balrog in fair form but with insomnia? I just don't want him to be a wizard but he is likely to be one.
Not that Sauron taking the shape of a mortal man would go against everyone Tolkien (remember him) wrote. At this time of Sauron's life he would have to be a very fair being. Elf for instance.
This is already confirmed.
@@t-jh4236 well it is definitely going to be a different take on the story.😉 It is not going to be as it 'should' be. Us book readers know about the fairness of Sauron and how alluring he was in an ethereal way but has a sinister aura about him. But how do you make it believable that nobody in the show knew they were being duped by an obviously beautiful cult leader. The audience needs to be fooled as well. This show is to cater to the masses so Sauron needs to be 'easy' to like and difficult to guess at. Halbrand looks like your typical rugged 'cute guy' character who probably will have a 'does he or doesn't he like her'-vibe. He also looks a bit 'cocky', people like that; a handsome rugged man with a bit of swag. People also love tension of a possible love story. i think the scene where it looks as if Galadriel and Halbrand have a 'moment' is actually Halbrand/Sauron overestimating himself, thinking he has won Galadriel over and makes a move at which point Galadriel is like:'dude....what makes you think I would EVER? I'm an elf!a human of the faithful would know this..unless...you are only PRETENDING to be human!I Oh no! It is you! You sent the storm and the fishdragon!" And then Halbrand smirks and transforms into Sauron in fair form with a beauty so great and ethereal; its terrifying and alluring at the same time. It will serve him when it comes to the worshippers of the Morgoth-faith. Or I could be COMPLETELY wrong and this paragraph is utterly pointless😄We have to be imaginative when guessing about how the story will play out in a tv series.
Sauron would have to look like a beautiful elf
The First season should be solely focused on Elendil and his sons and the story of Ar -Pharazon/Numenor civil war/etc, its literally the only second age story worth telling
Do you think this show will do to Middle-Earth what the Wheel of Time show on Amazon did to that book series?
They might try to save it for season2, which I don't think will be possible and hopefully ends there. One day to be riveved perhaps after this thing fails. And well we have war of the Rohirrim to wait for right?
I think also if you look at other videos his view was more negative and since he was invited it changed quite a bit. Whereas his initial doubts were never addressed. Because overall Galadriel still will be a warrior, Gandalf... XD Hobbits, women dark cult, the whole thing has so much to fail. Would wish it doesn't but i see no other possible outcome. And the no Sauron or even ring maker. And i think basically the true heros of the second age will be more like side characters to some made up story.
Sorry for the rant
Oh and just this: The Melkor Priestess looks suitably creepy, I think those elven children will be taken by devotees and brought to their new lord to transform them into orcs
I had this same thought, maybe it is right
That's what I was thinking
I hope not, although that is something Amazon would do.....
It's fitting they got the androgenous character evil and ruining everything for the rest of everyone else
@@Enerdhil hmmm...maybe I should join their writing team, then? 😉
When Galadriel pulled the dagger off Finrod and revealed the Brand of Sacrifice, I was so excited to see that her final showdown with the Godhand will finally come to fruition. How the duel with Gattsu and his evil minions will end can only be left to the imagination since Tolkien passed before finishing the epic series!
Griffith!!!!!!
I’m here for these comments specifically
10:38
Random elf: Wait commander we have to stop!
Galadriel: no stopping for useless baggage!
Not 100% sure, but I think the "trident" symbol on the ice/sword/Finrod's body might be a symbol of Morgoth? A symbol of his crown maybe?
The three mountains of Thangorodrim?
@@gordoning76 no, probably worse .. M for Morgoth .. 🤮
Bro, I get that they paid for you to go on a fancy trip and all. Clearly this is why you are giving this series EVERY chance. But when this thing is laughably bad, you better turn on them hard. Otherwise, you're not more than a shill.
I bet galadrial changes when she gets her ring, and Sauron reveals he puts on the oned.
She changes how?
@@RockinLegends Becoming more like the Galadriel we know from the Third Age.
@@DuBaas007 I can’t imagine a red pulled Galadriel as the shows ending, specially when Gil-Galand and Elrond could see Annatar for what he was
It's interesting how they changed the main symbol Sauron was recognized for in Middle Earth, The Eye, for this three-pointed helmlike drawing, which reminds me a lot of Peter Jackson's Sauron adaptation. Hope this series bring back the old stuff from movies and some new details from the books as well.
He is only known for the eye after he loses his physical form right?
4:19 ".. and that's why you don't let your kids play in Middle Earth unattended" 🤣
That was a great break down and better music I felt more immersive. I was so lost watching the trailer had no clue what was what? Eye candy to the eyes yes but zero context. You made more epic for sure
I look forward to your up coming content on Amazons take on middle earth.
Keep up the great content
Having avidly watched every scrap so far released, every teaser, trailer, everything I could get my hands on, I personally think this is going to be pretty solid adaptation of warhammer
You got a solid wheeze out of me with this
Kekw
HAHAHA!!!!… HAHAHhahauuhuuhuu..? HAHAHAHAAAAH!!!
Priceless!
Hi, I like both the Warhammer fantasy and the Warhammer 40k universes. Please delete your slanderous comment.
That was freaking funny 🤣 Good one man, exactly lol.
Wargs with trotters? Did Amazon breed wolves with goblin-capybaras?
They're based on entelodonts, an extinct relative of todays pigs.
@@SomethingLegit1 They look like they probably taste of boar
Looking more like something out of Warhammer, IMO.... ~
@@SomethingLegit1 I get that, but it's an embarrassingly terrible choice nonetheless.
@@crazyquilt
I agree lol
Just explained what they are. I'm not sure how orcs are supposed to ride a hunched entelodont but oh well...
You'll never get me on board with "Galadriel: Warrior Princess". The perversion of her character is unforgiveable.
"Without it, who am I to be?"
Oh, I don't know, the fairest, wisest, most powerful of all the children of Iluvatar? Galadriel needs no sword. Tolkien is retching.
To be fair though, the FAIREST of all of Iluvatar's children was Luthien. That's mentioned more than once. Finrod is described as the fairest of Finarfin's (or was it even Finwe's?) descendants. So while Galadriel's physical beauty certainly was there, it's not her main trait. Wisdom? Perhaps, although Celeborn would at least be her equal - if he were actually there!
Feanor was meant to be the greatest of all... Even if he "FELT" that s what he was
Not Galadriel
@@petraschuster185 I should have said "in Middle Earth". The others were in the halls of Mandos.
@@y_yakuza7458 She was the greatest still in Middle Earth in the Second Age.
@@brushylake4606 or at least in Aman ... But Celeborn remains arguably just as wise and powerful. He's often brushed over since he didn't get much attention in the PJ movies.
I thought elves should be light in their feet why the hell is galadriel and a group of elves struggling to walk on ice on a blizzard.
Great point
search for helcaraxe here. thousands of elves died from cold in a march over ice trying to cross to middle-earth in the first age.
If they are light enough to not leave footprints in the snow, wouldn't the Blizzard blast them away easily? Yet they walk through it as if they have proper weight to them.
@@Oozaru85 Legolas was walking caradhras in LOTR while the rest of the fellowship are on their knees almost crawling
@@tomoya9686 Which makes no sense, since wind can sweap you away esier when youre light enough to not leave tracks in the snow.
The moment when KalaTriel drops her line while visiting Numenor: "My name is Maximus KalaTriel Elvinus, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Noldor Legions, loyal servant to the Amazon Empire. Sister to a murdered brother. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next. Avengers Assamble!
Such original stuff, F...ING Epic!
Basically 95% of the trailer was non Tolkien, none of that happened. The music is horrible, what were they thinking? This is not a MARVEL comic..
Lol! I love your terms you use for these trailers like Fish Dragon and Galadriel becoming "too Feanorian"! It cracks me up!
I cannot WAIT to chew glass instead of watching this!!!
I had fears. They have returned with a vengeance.
@Nerd of the Rings, the object you were wondering about at 10:42 looks a bit like a Roma wagon, but with some strange ball or wheel contraption on the front? Also, it looks like it is heading towards a camp. At first I thought it was a city with a tall building in the middle, but then it seemed to be a camp with the building actually being smoke from a bonfire.
Guessing it is the Hobbit wagon. The terrain looks like it may have been too boggy for the wagon to continue on to the campsite. I'm wondering if the Hobbits in this will be nomadic and searching for a safe place to settle throughout the series - eventually making their way to Eriador to found the Shire at the very end of the series.
@@dargron7614 it looked more like a Manish wagon to me. Similar to the wagons seen in the village.
Related to the "burned out jeep" @11:00. Totally agree. But it looks to be a burned out wagon. Can make out some wagon wheel spokes on what would have been the front. It looks like there is a figure in gray or armor standing on the side. Note also the wagon camp further back in the frame (upper right before the water). Maybe they were making their way to camp and got attacked? There looks to be fire in the camp too.
10:36 "If Galadriel isn't careful, she might become more fëanorian than anyone should aspire to be" Oof :D
Good catch of the brand on Finrod Matt. I also wonder if the children seen playing in white gowns could be in Numenorian. This way your “Priestess” of Melkor could be on Numenor as well.
There's a part of me that hopes so badly that this show could turn out at the very least somewhat decent. And when I say badly, I mean BADLY. I love LOtR, so the chance to have more content in this world is stupendous. Hence the little flicker of hope I've still got. It'll take a bit to feed it, but it won't take much to snuff it out. Hopefully Amazon doesn't breath too heavily near it.
Yes. But a success that is so far from Tolkien lowers the common understanding of what Tolkien is. Do we want a whole generation who thinks The Rings of Power IS Tolkien?
@@Sthunderrocker The show isn't even out yet, you don't know what it is, so why cry this hard about it?
@@Sthunderrocker I feel ya, but I feel like there are enough people who will still buy the merch so even if the show is trash they will still make more since they bought the rights, Amazon will milk this to death while they can.
Do not trust to hope, my friend. It has forsaken these lands.
@@hannibalb8276 cause what we have already seen doesn't give us any hope...
4:40 Let's not forget that Sauron encouraged Numeronians to worship Melkor. The priestess is likely performing a role in that setting.
*Numenoreans
@@Oozaru85 okay jeez you didn't need to do that
@@bullrun2772 Why not? Is it now offensive to correct people? Lol, come on.
@@Oozaru85 wow you are offended that i said anything i was stating some advice lol
@@bullrun2772 If Im not allowed to correct people, then why are you allowed to give me advice?
The comment you make about Galadriel's arc is, I'm pretty sure, actually what one of the show-runners said in an interview somewhere about her. So, yes., I'm expecting her character to evolve over the series to the Galadriel we see in the 3rd Age. Maybe her getting her ring starts the change?
No, her character in this show is just a complete bastardization that defies all known lore. She’s already thousands of years old at the beginning of the second age having been born in the years of the tree’s.
What they're doing with her character degrades her. She is not a cheap modern femenism icon... By simply filling masculine social tropes with female character types who embody those very tropes it might not be so much an elevation of the femenine as much as a blind attachment to the masculine qualities as the ones that actually matter. These corporations couldn't tell their right from their left.
@@LordFindecano Interesting opinion. I think you'll find, however, that I offered no opinion as to whether this was a right or wrong decision. But carry on with your defence of your image of Galadriel. Same reply to the other comment on mine.
@@MrSneaksful In Letter 348 Tolkien had another name for Galadriel, Nerwen or "Man Maiden" she's supposed to be 6'4", was of Amazonian build and was supposedly very capable physically. Tolkien never detailed her early life, but he clearly never meant her to be some ethereal fairy queen
@@rotwang2000 He never said she went to battle only that she had an Amazonian disposition way to read it all the way and try to pass off false information. We see she has the power to disarm men with her gaze alone, she doesn't need to be reduced to Xena and replace elrond to show her progress mainly she just defended her home then Assault Keeps and Cities.
When Peter Jackson made the decision to bring Tolkien's masterpiece to the big screen he recruited people who were very familiar with the books. Almost everyone in a significant position in the making of those films were fans whose knowledge, appreciation and respect for Tolkien had been ingrained since they first discovered the books. As PJ continued to stress the absolute need to have the spirit and thematic material of the books come through in the movies it kept them from losing their way. A critical philosophy that carried the filmmakers through the entire exhaustive process resulting in a cinematic masterpiece and one that Hollywood could never have done. PJ and all the Kiwi's involved in the making of that trilogy understood the sacrifices that were required to reach that level of quality. Hollywood understands how to make money by producing lesser films at a higher rate. Hollywood is a cesspool of perverse egos doing their level best to hide the scumbaggery associated with those egos. They have no love or respect for Tolkien and it shows on the screen. The Rings of Power is just another example of throwing enough money at a project to get it done and onto the screen, big or small, hoping enough people without foreknowledge of Tolkien's work will buy into it. They may yet be successful/profitable, with the "Tolkien ignorant" masses finding TROP......entertaining. They will never win over the true and knowledgeable fans and I believe they knew that going in. I expect TROP will make a small profit in the first season and then, hopefully, be done. Hollywood is glitz and glamour with no heart or substance.....and it shows.
i highly doubt they will get anywhere near a billion lol thats what they would need to get close to breaking even
I hate that so many of my dream films are being produced during this error. I was very disappointed in the hobbit but at least they used Tolkiens book as a guide. My issue was they went off script to add drama where it wasn’t necessary and tried to hard in making a over the top 300 style battle scene rather then using the method chose in original trilogy.
Now they are doing everything I didn’t like about the hobbit and adding woke crap that doesn’t even make sense within that world.
I am not even remotely excited to watch this. Not after being so disappointed by other great fiction masterpieces like WOT, Shanarra and others be butchered
And yet Christopher Tolkien hated the Peter Jackson films for the same reasons you’re hating on TROP. Don’t you think this is just a tired cliche that happens every time a fantasy story is turned into a movie/show?
@@KevinQuinn666 lol he had criticism, as did many people who read the books, but in now way did he hate it like many fans hate this trash....maybe you weirdo's should stop lying about what people thought of lotr and just accept that most of the fans hate this trash and just watch it die in the first season lol
I don't think you are approaching this series with a critical eye----an eye attuned to what is genuinely Tolkien----at all. You are passively swallowing all the appalling assaults on the Tolkien canon that these bad faith showrunners are hoping the "fans" will. Did you even listen to the diastrous, gaslighting, outright lying interviews from Comic-Con? They fired Tom Shippey, a great Tolkien scholar, because he called them on not respecting the legendarium on which HE is the expert, then tried to falsely claim him as a source. They have referred to fans disagreeing with them as "dull lumpish trolls." I have no doubt Tolkien would have called such behavior Orcish. And sorry, but Galadriel is NOT, in the Second Age, ANYTHING like Eowyn! Eowyn was a human in her early 20s, Galadriel is an Elf and is 5000 years old! There is absolutely no parity! Galadriel is not Xena Warrior Princess! And you can't have two Durins at the same time! Harfoots and Hobbits are the same tning, but they say they're not! Meteor Maia is literally wearing Gandalf gray, but you express hope he is a Blue Wizard? There's just SO MUCH wrong, they are absolutely shredding the lore, but you talk like it's all just fine! I am afraid that once it is streamed, I will have to unsubscribe.
Tolkien’s work has been assaulted by fan fiction from Peter Jackons to all the video games. None of them are true to Tolkien’s work. Same with this, but for some reason, people all of a sudden care that his work is being ruined?
@@Thesamurai1999 Yeah, I think I remember reading somewhere that Christopher Tolkien once said that his father would have disliked Peter Jackson's LOTR films.
It isn't all of a sudden that people care, and it isn't for just "some reason". That aside, is it your view that critiques of this series are invalid because people didn't criticize earlier adaptations as much?
@@brucedm3 No, by all means people should criticise it. I just find it funny how most of the people that criticise this adaptation for not being true to Tolkien simultaneously love the Jackson trilogy or Shadow of Mordor video game who are by no means true to Tolkien either.
The falling man could be Saruman, allowing him a real chance to do some good on screen, and mirroring his later fall.
It might be a tricky sell since Christopher Lee was so iconic though.
"Elves doing cool elf stuff" yup, breakdown is a good description.
It looks like it might be an ok Dungeons & Dragons series.
Kinda smushed up D&D meets Warhammer (with the look and feel of the monsters, etc.)
Yes
Really disappointed in this final trailer. Music was out of place. Shots gave no indication as to what is going on. Just came across as a generic fantasy series. Still gonna tune in but my expectations are not great...which could end up being a good thing. Would love to be pleasantly surprised
I think that was the point. This trailer is not for Tolkien fans (they are already sold) - it’s goal is to capture as many eyeballs as possible.
@@samyueldanyo8679 that's a fair take.
The music is fine . It's the vocals that are out of place.
@@samyueldanyo8679 Thats my hope because boy the marketing has been trash lol, but at the same time they are focusing on casuals they are displeasing hardcore fans to the point we actually are convincing casuals that this will suck because all of our complaints and all the times we mentioned them breaking lore. So in the end I think Amazon took the wrong approach regarding marketing to the point few casuals will turn up to see and we are going to see already pissed off by all we have seen so far lol
the comments on the trailer is better than the trailer itself
Another excellent breakdown. Thanks Mr Nerd!
I think if this wasn’t Lord of the Rings… It would have a lot of potential it be a great fantasy series. But no matter how many trailers I watch, no matter how many promotional stills I see… It just doesn’t feel like Tolkien.
Only thing that feels remotely Tolkien to me, is the film score on Spotify…. Which doesn’t surprise me… Because Bear McCreary is a genius.
The biggest problem they’re gonna run into, is that it’s really really difficult to create anywhere near a coherent and cohesive story using just the Lord of the Rings appendicies as they currently stand. They’ll be so many holes that they will have to fill with things that aren’t canon…and it’ll hurt the story.
*Fans shaking their heads - "He had no right... no right to write such an amazing and spectacular soundtrack!"
*Thorin leaning in to whisper - "He had the ONLY right..."
Biggest problem for me so far is the character Galadriel.
Harfoots did not exist in the 2nd age they are hobbits. Merry and pippin come fro m the harfoot line. Also the "showrunners" cannot grasp that elves, dwarfs and hobbits are not human and are there own race.
they are focusing waaay too much on her and this notion that she was an almighty warrior that fought in wars has no evidence in the text, despite what tolkien commented on his letters "she was of amazon disposition" and "she commanded armies" .... in the released books she only spend her time in safe kingdom of Doriath while war breaks out around her and latter she journeys to eastern middle earth before the war of the wrath. There is no evidence in anywhere that galadriel ever participated in an all out war like Elrond did for example. She is not even mentioned fighting (phisycally) in the war of the last alliance ... what the showrunners are doing is reaching way too much for any real fan to accept this as "Galadriel". I could take her exploring the world and fighting some orcs and trolls but leading troops in the battlefield? Thats too much, if Tolkien ever imagined her as such he would have mentioned her doing so in the text!
@@aesir1ases64 Yes, she did not even participate in the kinslaying although she witnessed it.
@@aesir1ases64 Elrond would have been a better leading character in the show.
well at least she's hot, they could have horribly casted her.
It’s def a Jeep thing. It’s where Gandalf keeps his wrist watch!
Great video. I agree with you about the song used for the trailer.
By the way, what music did you use for this video?
I read this too often looking the characters up:
- The character was created for the TV series The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power, and as such is non-canonical.
- Bronwyn was a woman from the village of Tirharad, in the Second Age. She does not appear in the works of J.R.R. Tolkien, and is therefore non-canonical.
- Disa was a Dwarven princess of the Second Age. The character is non-canonical, as she does not appear in the works of J.R.R. Tolkien. Disa's character was created for the series The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power, where she is portrayed by Sophia Nomvete.
They really just stole the name.
To be fair, they have the rights to the Hobbit, the LOTR, and the appendices. They basically have an outline of the major events and major players of the second age with no rights to anything else. If they're going to tell those stories and give them depth they need to create characters to populate the world.
@@NikolisKitchen exactly, came here to say this 💀
Great videos as always my friend. Only a few days away from you doing a review of the actual episodes. Very excited!
Bro I can hear in your voice you're as worried as I am
I appreciate you breaking the trailers down for us Nerd of the Rings!
yeah well we hate him for covering the trailers
Still looking for people who are optimistic for this show
They're like elves, man. None left in this world.
How could we?
For those who haven’t seen it - there was a clip regarding ‘the mark’ shown on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert (Aug 3) - right before Stephen’s interview with Morfydd Clark.
10:58 it looks like a wagon but with no horses pulling it. Possibly abandoned and dust swirling around it
The visuals were grand. The choice of music though took me out of it. Just didn't feel like Middle Earth.
Maybe it's because Peter Jackson and Howard Shore established the soundscape for Middle Earth too? Let's see whether watching the actual episodes changes that. Fingers crossed.
Wonderful analysis as usual! ❤️
the Soundtrack has been released, and the song from this trailer is not at all the kind of music you will hear during the show
I think the soundtrack is absolutely phenomenal. Howard Shore assisted with some of it and Bear McCreary did a great job of making some new amazing themes.
Just heard the soundtrack. It's really good. Really hope the show delivers now!
Nerd of the Rings: I’m really, really trying to live by your word of reserving judgement until the show comes out, but I can’t anymore. It just feels off. Why?
The music in this trailer does not match the ME universe. Music is so important as Arda was created with music, and this music feels too much, too techno almost. The music in your trailer recap sounds better to me.
If we’re being as faithful to Tolkien, why is Galadriel so active at this point? It wasn’t this way in the books, unless it’s just a show invention.
Then there’s multiple Durins, the different looks of elves, of what Sauron as Annatar may look like. The meteor? I just don’t understand it.
I feel like you’re working very hard to think about this as positively as possible, and I like many fans really want to enjoy this, it just feels very, very worrying.
It's quite easy when you're recieving gifts and having vacations paid for...
I was searching for a Breakdown like that. Thank You.
The comic con trailer actually got me a little excited for this unlike all the other ones, but this trailer made me remember why I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm sure it'll be a good modern fantasy show. Changes are necessary in adaptations, but the feeling I get from this is that the goal of this series is to redefine the story and put it in their own version of middle earth. That's a valid artistic direction, but it's not appealing to me in this case
So this series is probably going to focus on the empowering, stuning, brave and diverse history of poor Celeborn getting cucked by some sailor that migth aswell end up turning evil
I think (I hope) that the 'burnt out jeep' is a horse-drawn wagon. Just without the horses. By the tracks I assume that the circle with a giant bonfire (which to me seems like a giant waste of wood, since from the rest of the scene, they had to carry all the wood they're burning with them...) is a circle of those wagons. No idea why they left the one behind. It doesn't seem to be stuck in mud - which brings me to another aspect: obviously 'pure nitpicking' but who in their right mind would set up camp with heavy, slow wagons in the middle of what is obviously tidal range?! Especially when there's enough light to complete the crossing?! I don't know whether to laugh or just beat my forehead on the table..
Oh. And whatever this is 16:49 I didn't know that Numenorians used to transport gunpowder in quantities equal to half of the ship being full of it..
That explosion encapsulates our expectations for this show.
TY - I too thought it was so obviously a tidal plain. And something like that would make me think - "get out of here before that deadly tide comes rushing in" not "hey let's circle the wagons and stay for the night"!
Where do hamburgers go to dance?
The meat-ball.
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May have already been posted but at 7:52, the ring of torches in the background above the steps behind Galadriel makes it appear that she has a halo above her head. I’m sure it was intentional.
makes sense, there's catholic imagery throughout the entire Legendarium
Prime had a goldmine in there palms and all they had to do is stay faithful to the lure. But they couldn’t just do that.. sad.
Problem is the showrunners are activists. Right off the back we knew it would be a Frankenstein monster filled to the brim with identity politics.
I don't get it lol you guys haven't even watched it yet!! How do you guys know
@@chrisrock219 Well they saw a two minute trailer of a woman holding a sword. That clearly equals activism (which end of itself is always bad to them) being shoved down their throats because what else could it be.
They certainly went for the ''lure'', but not the lore lol
@@NastyCupid exactly 🤣