Not to mention soups and sauces were some of the most primitive ways of cooking aside from just fire-roasting. You can extract so much more, especially from offcuts and bones that would otherwise be wasted, by cooking them in a soup or a sauce, and they were an easy way to both cook down high volumes of vegetables/fruits and therefore more easily preserve them. Realistically once people were able to boil water and had earthenware bowls they started cooking, and this could go back as far as 20,000 BC. Depending on how lenient Jerma would deem a sauce to be, it could be anywhere from then to 3rd Century BC China when soy bean paste became a vital ingredient in modern cooking due to its usefulness in condensing soy beans into a much more easily consumed and preserved ingredient.
@@beefrap2023 some people feel so limited by the time in a day and the bodily functions we have to maintain that they would choose to simply forgo them if they could
People commenting before watching the clip should know that this is Ster's bonkers opinion, not Jerma's. Jerma would never give up on consuming cooked flesh (and radishes)
i like these longer videos, they give the jermamites in my head extra time to feast on my brain matter. at this rate, i'll be safe for jerma consumption in just a few more days
It's food. That's about all I can say about it. It's pretty bland, but I honestly don't know how you could make it better & I'm usually pretty creative in that regard
@@bbbbbbb51 serious answer though, get some of that good canned tuna, then for every can add like 2 large spoonfuls of mayo plus an entire diced SOUR (it sucks bad if you accidentally use a sweet one) pickle. Without the pickle I agree it’s a little bland but once you add the pickle it’s a godly substance. Best in a sandwich but tbh you don’t even need the bread I’d eat it out of a bowl
I've had some store bought tuna salad that was so bad it could completely turn me off on ever having it again, but I've also had homemade stuff that was so good I would be fine with eating only that every day for a year. It's all about the freshness, quality of ingredients, and consistency.
The funny thing about the sauce question is that jerma acts like food is completely flavorless without sauce. People still had taste buds back then lol. Taste was just more of a tool for finding edible food rather than from a purely pleasure standpoint. People probably had broth before they had sauce.
Jerma's topic on the importance of food is genuinely 100% correct -- the social, cultural importance of eating and enjoying food with other people is SO vital. He's right and should talk more about it!! Studying the cultural and social aspects of food was so fun when I was in college, honestly.
I have autism. While I do like food, there's some days where I just can't pick one I can stand and I'll have nutrient shakes instead. I agree with jerma that the experience of eating real food is valuable (and that tuna is good), but it's funny to think that ster's hypothetical is something I already kind of do.
I'm also autistic and struggle with food a lot of the times, I need to get back into having more nutrient / protein shakes. its just hard finding ones I like because I am so particular with flavours and textures, and also in the past ones I've liked have literally stopped being available which is so frustrating
Hope you can eventually find a good brand though. The stores in my area were devoid of my favorite ramen for weeks during covid and I barely ate during that time. It sucked.
I actually really enjoy the prompt of “who made the first sauce?”. I’m going to ask my friends that and see what they say. I’m guessing it was after the advent of soups cooked in large leaves/animal stomachs but likely before or around the same time as the implementation of basic pottery. Someone who had roasted meat and decided to save the drippings by cooking soup instead probably had the idea to roast the meat and catch the drippings in a vessel below the meat. They may have dipped the meat in the rendered fat mixture or added basic greens to it as it cooked, creating a sauce. Really fun to think about for some reason
Whoever made the first sauce would have wanted a little more flavor with their meal. Since a meal tastes better the longer you have gone hungry, the first intentional sauce-maker must have been a rich chef: one that was a master in culinary arts and could eat whenever he wanted while peasants around him starved and just ate bread or something. To want to add a little more shebang to a meal, you need to afford to waste that meal if it tastes horrible
@@brycerodriguez244 Probably more likely the opposite, as OP posited. Probably a way of extracting extra nutrition out of a meal, by retaining fats that would otherwise go to waste.
love how ster is perfectly expressing all the thoughts i have in my E.D. brain and jerma is saying everything my therapist and dietician try to teach me
I had a complete breakdown a decade ago in class, because I somehow got this convoluted idea of humans being batteries to feed a higher power's console or something. I remember at the time believing in the idea so much that I felt like my world was crumbling in a literal sense.
@@jamesmccomb9525 this is the plot to a Rick and Morty episode, I believe you need to be hit in the head by a Peter Griffin shaped rock, it will cure you my friend
I love food but I have a lot of dietary restrictions and also adhd so cooking is a pain in the ass a lot of the time, would love to have a pill to chomp down that would mean I would be healthy and not have to worry about handling food. Feels like a lot of the hate for the nutrient pebble is reactionary as fuck lmao ster never even said it would replace food
I would unironically love to have a bunch of nutrient pebbles so I could it them like in the morning or something, for some reason my body just hates any real food that I eat in the morning
I eat most things, but I think the pebbles would come in handy. You could just get a bowl of pebbles out at any time, like how I grab a carrot from the fridge and chomp on it like Bugs Bunny. Sometimes you just want convenient food, but hopefully the pebbles would be more nutritious than fast food or potato chips. I wouldn’t replace normal meals with them though. And if the pebbles were to be ACTUALLY made they’d need a flavour.
"I think humans getting enjoyment out of food is like, WAYYY up there for, you know, our existence" Jerma is all consuming Jerma is Mr. Creosote of the stars.
Jerma’s starting to give in to the hamster lifestyle. First the pellets, then he’s gonna unveil the giant wheel in his room and stream himself running on it for 4 hours straight.
Tuna (and salmon) are so fantastic. I often crack open a tin of fish instead of a bag of chips. Not trying to shill but I like the naturally smoked John West salmon and Greenseas smoked tuna. I recall the springwater JW salmon being bland though. Used to be a big sardine fan as a kid but I haven’t had them in ages.
The first sauce in recorded history is Garum, a Roman sauce made of fermented fish and spices. However, recorded history only goes back so far and most cultures didnt value writing outside of europe enough to record their sauce making habits
The idea of eating pebbles reminds me of the episode of the 90s Goosebumps show where the kid has an ant farm and when he wakes up at the end he is in the ant farm and all food is the pellets that he would give to the ants
This is actually what I've been saying for years, I wish there was kibble for humans that would also be healthy for us like dog food. Sometimes I don't feel like choosing food, I just feel like satisfying my hunger/nutrients need without thinking too hard about it.
Fish is so iffy that if you have ONE dish on the WRONG day you will never be eating it again. If you have a dish on the RIGHT day your brain will tell you to eat it for the rest of your life.
Sauces weren't just created because "it tastes better" it was a way of using leftover ingredients and getting more flavour out of a meal, same way cavemen boiled meat in water to create broth so those nutrients weren't lost in the cooking process. You're still consuming the ingredients of the sauce so how is it wasting scarce food? And plus making shit taste good is like, 90% of the reason any food ever was created, I feel like jerma is so robotic in nature that he physically can't taste the flavours of food, he simply consumes product for chemical energy, not enjoyment, not pleasure. Hence why he is so supportive of this "flavourless pebble" diet, any other human would go insane being unable to taste or experience any other flavour for the rest of their lives. Jerma is truly a terrifying and psychotic 'human'.
I honestly had no idea tuna sandwiches were that polarizing. Like I get how someone would not like it, but I thought it was a pretty standard sandwich. Also, you know, just in case anyone on earth cared, you can describe some heavy chocolate fudge ice cream as 'chunk lite,' & it would sound good (as in chunky chocolate pieces that's sugar-free or something.)
Literally why this is why fast food was created, they basically said what if we had fast food but faster since their life can become even more fast-paced more often.
the first sauce is whatever group of primitive humans added some sort of thickener to soup. it probably predates the modern human species. or it's more modern decadance and some roman emperor wanted people to shoot olive oil mixed with mashed eggplant and honey for his enjoyment
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"Hedonist Andy" has to be one of my favorite unacknowledged oneguy moments
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@@cumsoak 6:15
7:28 timestamp
I love Jerma playing straight man to Ster's freakishness in their elden ring sessions, it's such a role reversal
I love Jerma playing straight man to Ster's gay man
@UB13: Saturn is Ster actually gay? Still wondering for being called homophobic for not enjoying his personality as much as others.
@@robinlaszlo no
@@pedrolabrador__ how do you know tho
@@pee-bot he has a wife
“Who do you think made the first sauce? And I mean that.”
The man is insane.
"and i mean that" is so absurd to me
When he asked that my first thought was "the French."
@@lesigh3410 mine was an old korean lady
jerma thinks the sauce question is way more philosophical than it is
Not to mention soups and sauces were some of the most primitive ways of cooking aside from just fire-roasting. You can extract so much more, especially from offcuts and bones that would otherwise be wasted, by cooking them in a soup or a sauce, and they were an easy way to both cook down high volumes of vegetables/fruits and therefore more easily preserve them. Realistically once people were able to boil water and had earthenware bowls they started cooking, and this could go back as far as 20,000 BC. Depending on how lenient Jerma would deem a sauce to be, it could be anywhere from then to 3rd Century BC China when soy bean paste became a vital ingredient in modern cooking due to its usefulness in condensing soy beans into a much more easily consumed and preserved ingredient.
It might actually be.
Jerma thinks lots of things are way more philosophical than they really are lol
I love ster’s reaction like completely not getting why this is blowing jermas mind like it’s really pretty simple to understand
@@zaksaturday1693 I mean, if we consider the ocean to be a sauce then we've had sauces a lot longer too.
The way Ster just becomes progressively more hungry for pebbles makes me worried that the full moon is rising throughout this clip
Ster just casually admits he would be vibing in Soylent Green.
I actually relate. I kinda hate having to eat.
@@bbbbbbb51 undiagnosed mental illness going hard in chat rn
@@bbbbbbb51 Same, it's just annoying most of the time
I’m sorry but saying you dislike eating means you’re just eating poorly or actually crazy.
@@beefrap2023 some people feel so limited by the time in a day and the bodily functions we have to maintain that they would choose to simply forgo them if they could
People commenting before watching the clip should know that this is Ster's bonkers opinion, not Jerma's. Jerma would never give up on consuming cooked flesh (and radishes)
& mayo
@@SpahGaming I hope we never let him live down his S tier food tier list being filled only with Mayo.
When in doubt, radish it out!
Only fresh meat grinder prepped flesh.
And raw carrots
Jerma eats exclusively by rolling his cylindrical body over the landscape incorporating everything he crushes into a single unified consciousness.
The katamari diet
i like these longer videos, they give the jermamites in my head extra time to feast on my brain matter. at this rate, i'll be safe for jerma consumption in just a few more days
do like em fr tho, in case the original comment implied i didn't 👍
so real for this
imagining that i was kidnapped in a dank abandoned warehouse tied to a chair and jerma and ster are my captors while listening to this
Mom and dad talking about what to have for dinner in the other room 😊
Kinky 👌
@@macrobug17 i want youtube to make dislikes visible again but only for YOU specifically.
Jerma's reasoning for the meaning of life being lifted entirely out of Ratatouille is both insane and entirely predictable
Jerma not knowing what the gigachad song is was more chad than the song itself.
“You see jerma, I have depicted you as the soy wojak and I am the chad wojak, therefore I win”
Jerma bringing up the sauce thing had me genuinely say out loud “oh here we go”
12:36 WHY DID HE SING ALONG LIKE THAT LMFAOOOOOOO
He's literally insane
I'M LOSING IT HEELSLPPP
hey zoomies, its because theres a big uwu red wolf right near him!!
Tuna+mayo on toasted bread is amazing
Gonna go with toast may as well go with a tuna melt. Stay with fresh bread or bust.
It's food. That's about all I can say about it. It's pretty bland, but I honestly don't know how you could make it better & I'm usually pretty creative in that regard
@@bbbbbbb51 You could make it better by processing it in a way that gets rid of the flavor and presses it in pebble form.
@@Chillerll thank you
@@bbbbbbb51 serious answer though, get some of that good canned tuna, then for every can add like 2 large spoonfuls of mayo plus an entire diced SOUR (it sucks bad if you accidentally use a sweet one) pickle. Without the pickle I agree it’s a little bland but once you add the pickle it’s a godly substance. Best in a sandwich but tbh you don’t even need the bread I’d eat it out of a bowl
"I've been type-cast" is one of the funniest things I've heard ster say to jerma
this is what real friend conversations sound like
so glad someone edited this down, this whole conversation had me close to crying at the time thank you
I've had some store bought tuna salad that was so bad it could completely turn me off on ever having it again, but I've also had homemade stuff that was so good I would be fine with eating only that every day for a year. It's all about the freshness, quality of ingredients, and consistency.
The funny thing about the sauce question is that jerma acts like food is completely flavorless without sauce. People still had taste buds back then lol. Taste was just more of a tool for finding edible food rather than from a purely pleasure standpoint. People probably had broth before they had sauce.
Ster: "My favourite food is flavourless nutrient pebble" *gigachad song*
Jerma: "Nobody thinks that's funny"
Chat: "+2"
12:10
lab-grown streamer yearns for his childhood food
you WILL eat the flavorless nutrient pebbles and you WILL LIKE IT
Jerma's topic on the importance of food is genuinely 100% correct -- the social, cultural importance of eating and enjoying food with other people is SO vital. He's right and should talk more about it!! Studying the cultural and social aspects of food was so fun when I was in college, honestly.
I have autism. While I do like food, there's some days where I just can't pick one I can stand and I'll have nutrient shakes instead. I agree with jerma that the experience of eating real food is valuable (and that tuna is good), but it's funny to think that ster's hypothetical is something I already kind of do.
It being valuable doesn't make it invaluable though. In terms of cost if science had the ability the pebble is the way to go.
SAME nutrient shakes are a game changer
I'm also autistic and struggle with food a lot of the times, I need to get back into having more nutrient / protein shakes. its just hard finding ones I like because I am so particular with flavours and textures, and also in the past ones I've liked have literally stopped being available which is so frustrating
@@lizard1325 Damn and here I've been drinking pediasure since I was a literal toddler 😭
Hope you can eventually find a good brand though. The stores in my area were devoid of my favorite ramen for weeks during covid and I barely ate during that time. It sucked.
I actually really enjoy the prompt of “who made the first sauce?”. I’m going to ask my friends that and see what they say.
I’m guessing it was after the advent of soups cooked in large leaves/animal stomachs but likely before or around the same time as the implementation of basic pottery. Someone who had roasted meat and decided to save the drippings by cooking soup instead probably had the idea to roast the meat and catch the drippings in a vessel below the meat. They may have dipped the meat in the rendered fat mixture or added basic greens to it as it cooked, creating a sauce. Really fun to think about for some reason
Whoever made the first sauce would have wanted a little more flavor with their meal. Since a meal tastes better the longer you have gone hungry, the first intentional sauce-maker must have been a rich chef: one that was a master in culinary arts and could eat whenever he wanted while peasants around him starved and just ate bread or something. To want to add a little more shebang to a meal, you need to afford to waste that meal if it tastes horrible
@@brycerodriguez244 Probably more likely the opposite, as OP posited. Probably a way of extracting extra nutrition out of a meal, by retaining fats that would otherwise go to waste.
love how ster is perfectly expressing all the thoughts i have in my E.D. brain and jerma is saying everything my therapist and dietician try to teach me
like i have ARFID and by god i feel so seen by ster holy shit
what is erectile disfunction brain
ok i knew it wasn't that but how did i take 10 minutes to figure out it was eating disorder
Ster rolls Jerma like a blunt.
And eats his ass
eating pebbles rather than other stuff is absolutely extraterrestrial
Not beating the alien allegations :/
Silicone based lifeform andy
If you eat only the foods that your body actually needs, you'll never have the desire to taste food again.
@@jamesmccomb9525 👍
@@_Lumiere_ This explains the dumptruck
I am absolutely losing my mind, a bowl of flavourless nutrient pebbles is literally rice
rice isn't that nutritious that you could eat just rice though right?
@@swarler It also isn't pebbles either, you have to actually chew to eat it or it'll get stuck.
@@swarler Tell that to medieval asians.
How dare you
This might be the first time I'm genuinely offended by a comment on the internet. I won't stand for this LIBEL and SLANDER against rice.
This is the most unhinged conversation I ever heard.
jerma really shadowing 19th century german philosophers with his 'the meaning of life is to eat food' take
First ratwave now albacore jerma is a musical pioneer
This whole tuna segment genuinely made me hungry for some chunk-like tuna
Jerma is a dystopian future accepter
Like robots are using humans as batteries kinda dystopia
He is the robot in that scenario
I had a complete breakdown a decade ago in class, because I somehow got this convoluted idea of humans being batteries to feed a higher power's console or something. I remember at the time believing in the idea so much that I felt like my world was crumbling in a literal sense.
@@jamesmccomb9525 bro took the red pill 💀
@@jamesmccomb9525 this is the plot to a Rick and Morty episode, I believe you need to be hit in the head by a Peter Griffin shaped rock, it will cure you my friend
@@jamesmccomb9525that's a wild idea. someone should turn that into a movie
Somebody get this man some trail mix.
2:14 “Albacore Andy” LMAO
I love food but I have a lot of dietary restrictions and also adhd so cooking is a pain in the ass a lot of the time, would love to have a pill to chomp down that would mean I would be healthy and not have to worry about handling food. Feels like a lot of the hate for the nutrient pebble is reactionary as fuck lmao ster never even said it would replace food
Soylent green is people. Specifically the people jerma put in his meat grinder
5:07 ster and jerma both like dog food, jerma likes the actual meat chunks and ster likes kibble
11:30 broke me spiritually
I would unironically love to have a bunch of nutrient pebbles so I could it them like in the morning or something, for some reason my body just hates any real food that I eat in the morning
I eat most things, but I think the pebbles would come in handy. You could just get a bowl of pebbles out at any time, like how I grab a carrot from the fridge and chomp on it like Bugs Bunny. Sometimes you just want convenient food, but hopefully the pebbles would be more nutritious than fast food or potato chips. I wouldn’t replace normal meals with them though. And if the pebbles were to be ACTUALLY made they’d need a flavour.
this whole thing is like a fever dream
oh my god they are too good together
I thought id explode listening to this conversation
Have you listened to the one where ster says he has an “awakening”
I love the like, logic bomb "who made the first sauce" shit, it's hilarious. Jerma using it like a conversation ender.
Ster is the psychopath if he thinks Tuna Salad Sandwiches are gross. That's a goated summer meal!
"I think humans getting enjoyment out of food is like, WAYYY up there for, you know, our existence"
Jerma is all consuming
Jerma is Mr. Creosote of the stars.
Jerma’s starting to give in to the hamster lifestyle. First the pellets, then he’s gonna unveil the giant wheel in his room and stream himself running on it for 4 hours straight.
first sauce was probably made from tomatoes or something because it's one of the only ways to keep them from spoiling for long periods.
Jerma was talking in favour of cat food then got upset when Ster started talking in favour of dog food
At 13:05 he -2'd so hard it became a +3
Ok but hear me out; This goes all the way back to Hamster Jerma
pellet stream
the gigachad theme soundboard bit was one of the best ever oh my god
i just want to say how well this was editted i didnt even realise 16 minutes had gone by. :D
Everyone who has siblings knows, the kitchen making food is where your together in the same room for the most amount of time in the day.
Tuna (and salmon) are so fantastic. I often crack open a tin of fish instead of a bag of chips. Not trying to shill but I like the naturally smoked John West salmon and Greenseas smoked tuna. I recall the springwater JW salmon being bland though. Used to be a big sardine fan as a kid but I haven’t had them in ages.
I feel like the first sauce was made to preserve food but THEN they were like “DAMN I’ve been eating wrong this whole time ???”
75% of jermas diet is mayo, give him some mayo pebbles and he won't complain about a thing
The first sauce in recorded history is Garum, a Roman sauce made of fermented fish and spices. However, recorded history only goes back so far and most cultures didnt value writing outside of europe enough to record their sauce making habits
unironical based ster take, food is made to be eaten not enjoyed
jermas chat is so good they have constant zingers
Ok but he’s so right
The idea of eating pebbles reminds me of the episode of the 90s Goosebumps show where the kid has an ant farm and when he wakes up at the end he is in the ant farm and all food is the pellets that he would give to the ants
"Nobody thinks thats funny except you"
look at the damn chat jeremy
Tuna sandwich is so good
This is actually what I've been saying for years, I wish there was kibble for humans that would also be healthy for us like dog food. Sometimes I don't feel like choosing food, I just feel like satisfying my hunger/nutrients need without thinking too hard about it.
The solution to this debate is a tuna melt
Fish is so iffy that if you have ONE dish on the WRONG day you will never be eating it again. If you have a dish on the RIGHT day your brain will tell you to eat it for the rest of your life.
Solid in oil is the elite canned tuna
Sauces weren't just created because "it tastes better" it was a way of using leftover ingredients and getting more flavour out of a meal, same way cavemen boiled meat in water to create broth so those nutrients weren't lost in the cooking process. You're still consuming the ingredients of the sauce so how is it wasting scarce food?
And plus making shit taste good is like, 90% of the reason any food ever was created, I feel like jerma is so robotic in nature that he physically can't taste the flavours of food, he simply consumes product for chemical energy, not enjoyment, not pleasure. Hence why he is so supportive of this "flavourless pebble" diet, any other human would go insane being unable to taste or experience any other flavour for the rest of their lives. Jerma is truly a terrifying and psychotic 'human'.
Pebbles are actually quite good once you are used to them.
Bruh you didn't even watch the video. Star is the one who is advocating for nutrient paste diet, not Jerma lmao.
didn't watch the video L
Pretty sure cavemen didn't know what boiling did besides make tasty water, if they even knew how to boil properly at all
"She think on my therefore till I am" is my favorite completely unrelated chat message
7:00 the first sauce was probably vinegar, and it was made by someone who forgot their juice and came back for it way later
Enjoying the salad sandwiches is a true sign of maturity
JERMA FORCES STER TO EAT TUNA SLOP AND LOVE IT ON STREAM (STER GIGACHAD??)
i keep coming back to this video, it's a real sleeper hit
"chunk light" sounds like cat food
10:20 We're brushing over the fact that Jerma didn't fucking know the gigachad song
I want like.. kibble for humans
Jerma's the type of guy that eats water flavoured sustenance bar
Ster is apparently
And Dr.Breens private reserve
Who's Ster? this is just a video of Jerma talking to himself
@@vincebradleysolante7895 Jerma doesn’t even exist dude
@@Top_Hat_Walrus damn ur right, maybe I should see a doctor...
Can we talk about that flawless moment of comedic timing at 11:38
bringing in the philosophical question of the origin of sauce is such an insane move
I honestly had no idea tuna sandwiches were that polarizing. Like I get how someone would not like it, but I thought it was a pretty standard sandwich.
Also, you know, just in case anyone on earth cared, you can describe some heavy chocolate fudge ice cream as 'chunk lite,' & it would sound good (as in chunky chocolate pieces that's sugar-free or something.)
i woke up at 4am and this video is the first experience so far today. So far so good
I also want flavorless nutrient pellets
unironically relatable
16 minutes of “Ayo Let him cook”
ster pulling off the gigachad song 3 times and jerma somehow pulling up the wrong song to try to emulate him perfectly encapsulates their friendship
Unstoppable Force V.S Immovable Object
i made a tuna melt while watching this
Literally why this is why fast food was created, they basically said what if we had fast food but faster since their life can become even more fast-paced more often.
the first sauce is whatever group of primitive humans added some sort of thickener to soup. it probably predates the modern human species. or it's more modern decadance and some roman emperor wanted people to shoot olive oil mixed with mashed eggplant and honey for his enjoyment
Jerma likes food so much because he eat rocks. He can enjoy it on a level none of us can even begin to comprehend.
Spices and seasoning are popular in the hemisphere because the heat would usually make what they eat gross
anthropologically, jerma is correct about food being a reason for human existence.
One of My favorite moments are when Jerma and Ster go unhinged and then debate and argue over their insanity
100% on jermas side. A fellow tuna enjoyer.
Tuna melt is a god tier sandwich, even with shitty tuna it's still pretty good