How TNA Changed Because Of Hulk Hogan
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- WWE Producer Bobby Roode talks with Chris about Hulk Hogan coming to TNA in 2010 and details how this changed the promotion.
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He's being generous because the change worked out for him but he knows it didn't for many others.
That's the best way to put it
Jesus you internet wrestling fans. Your hatred of hogan is insane
you reap what you sow@@Mrstupes
@@MrstupesMaybe if he wasn’t a racist talentless hack who ruined so many careers fans wouldn’t hate him so much
@@Mrstupesbut its true
Bobby Roode vs James Storms rivalry was legendary.
Wouldn't go that far.
And tag team
The best feud in TNA History
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 no
@@kreed82 you're stupid
Thinking about how much Hogan and Bischoff ruined TNA frustrates me
Because it went from making money before them?
Thinking of how I was with your mom does the opposite
@@cram2979 You just insulted him and his mother because of a TV show.
Better say sorry
@@cram29791996 wants their mom joke back
Especially when they brought in Brooke!! UGH!
Bobby is one of the few who benefited from the Hogan-Bischoff TNA
Thats why he was umming and uhhhhing trying to play dumb to the question of what changed.
And he benefited greatly.
A lot more people benefited then people are prepared to admit
@@MrPerfect2000Z name em
@@kreed82 Sure.
Bobby Roode (Became a firm top heel)
James Storm (Became a firm top babyface)
Kazarian (got him out of the Suicide gimmick),
AJ Styles (his status was no different before Hogan showed up...still the future of TNA just like he was in 2007 lol),
Bully Ray (Goes without saying)
Christopher Daniels (actually started to be a more regular main eventer and Bad Influence team as well)
Magnus (Given time under the radar to become a more complete wrestler which would continue after he left in whatever year he left)
Doug Williams (Pushed as a singles star in some of the best matches in 2010)
The Guns (After a weird 2009, they were pushed to finally be Tag Champions in 2010)
Sting (Sounds weird but he was revitalised in 2011 after a few years of the same old)
Austin Aries (After some pretty bad early TNA stuff, he finally got something consistent going)
Madison Rayne (Came out of the Beautiful People with a solid gimmick)
Gail Kim
TNA Lockdown 2012: Bobby Roode vs James Storm in a steel cage was a fantastic match. One of my all time favorite finishes with Cowboy super kicking Roode outta the cage for Roode to retain the title by escape. It’s one of the high points of TNA wrestling for me.
An amazing feud. If I recall the run up was a tournament with those two In the final
It's always sad to me though that Storm didn't win the title
He had some great matches with Bobby Lashley in New York for the impact world title the first one is one of my favourite tha matches both guys were solid
Bobby Lashley vs Bobby Roode, Eric Young, Austin Aries, Eddie Edwards, EC3; Lashley had many great TNA Heavyweight Championship title matches.
However, my favorite wrestling match of all time was Bobby Lashley vs Kurt Angle for the TNA Heavyweight Championship. It felt like a good MMA main event and you could tell Mike Tenay and Taz were excited about the match.
Goes to show that a CRUCIAL feature of being a top guy, is putting over the guys of next generation
Who did Austin put over that secured the next generation
@@kreed82 he put over The rock in his (at the time) last match. The Rock went on to put over Goldberg a month later.
@@kreed82 a little guy named Dwayne the Rock Johnson
@@ACGWander lol Rock was already established by 2002 and shirtly after went on to hollywood. Goldberg along with NWO were responsible for WCW's mini resurgence. Goldberg was already established he was a part timer lol
@@AGuyNamedRicky The same Dwayne that rose to fame the same time Austin did? That guy? The same Dwayne that didnt stick around and went on to hollywood? What part of next generation didnt you get?
They wanted him to do that for Brock but Austin skipped that bit
Ill never forget looking at the tna website when hogan signed on and the whole page was red and yellow with pictures of hogan who at that point was already waaaaay past his prime in like freaking 2009/2010
That worked for him, brother!
Wearing a pink bandana I think 😂
Hogan at age 198 is a billion times more relevant & more over than anything in contemporary pro rasslin lol
@@marcbasilhogan is absolutely garbage
Hulk: That 8 sided ring aint gonna work for the hulkster brother.
Mark: Hulk its a 6 sided ring..
Hulk: "Whatever dude"
Immediately destroyed TNAs identity and made it WWE lite.
No. It was more like WCW lite, which is what everyone was actually referring to it as at the time.
@@fuzzluvver69 ok bud
@@fuzzluvver69 nah it wwe lite as they stopped cursing, started going storyline heavy. And matches were lacking grit and blood. They even started using sponges like wwe
So, they made it watchable & relevant? Is that what you’re saying…? Not a soul knew what TNA was before they came aboard lol.
@@fuzzluvver69no, they were referring to it as dubya see dubya lite during its debut years, ie: the first two years. Which is exactly what it was. When hulk/Eric came aboard, it was very much in line with what the Fed were doing/had recently done
The TNA touring concept was actually the right move and the ring change was good too, What ruined them was the move to Monday nights wtf were they thinking!? And don't get me wrong I think the six sided ring would have been great on occasions but not every single weekly show..
That 6ix sided tho!!! Like bruh. Had my 10 year old self eyes glued to the screen, it was such a “this is soo crazy, it just might work.” Good times
A lot of the talent said that it was hard to work in.
When I first saw that ring in my 20's I thought it looked cool, but then my thoughts went immediately to functionality. There was always that "and" type of thing with that ring.
@@lewisharwood3870it was also dangerous due to there being more turnbuckles
Bobby Roode is one of the most underrated wrestlers ever. Dude was awesome
Bobby Lashley, Bobby Roode, and James Storm are my favorite post 2000 pro wrestlers.
Been waiting for Bobby Roode finally 🙌
It has potential at the start but they changed way too much way too fast. Production quality did increase a chunk, but going head to head with WWE, getting rid of the 6 sided ring, changing days, way too much too fast, and the end of the Hogan bischoff era was standard WCW overbooking crap.
I liked the after show bts thing they would do. Sone wrestlers would great speaking ability always killed that.
Didn't WWE had a show like that after smackdown? "Talking Smack" or something like that?
@@ohmannotnow272 this was not a sit down staged talkshow. This was a behind the curtain telecast has just gone off air, catch em before they hit the shower, raw promos show.
Well for one, they changed the ring which for me was a huge disappointment. The six sided ring set them apart and the style was so exciting.
As soon as Hogan and Bischoff appeared in TNA, I felt that was the beginning of the end.
Beer money needs to come to wwe for one last run
That’s what I’m saying
TNA was so different with the 8 sided ring. Only the older generation had bad things to say about it but the Aj Styles and other embraced it and made some amazing matches in the 8 sided ring
TNA had a 6 sided ring... It was a hexagon.. the UFC has a 8 sided ring.. its a octagon.
@@daysmit7610 my bad it was a typo but still that 6 sided ring was beautiful for that X division and all the high flyers. I became a fan when I first saw the canadian destroyer for the first time. I was like wtf am I watching then Hulk Hogan and Bischoff came and everything went to hell. All the OG TNA stars started becoming afterthoughts
@@OmegalevelCord u still watch? I just started watchin TNA again. Shits been fire lately.
The ring barely has any give. I am sure it was not only the old guys. Anyhow they tried going back to it when TNA started getting more younger and the young guys did not like it either.
@@jamesdarwinsmithii7039Yh wrestlers said it was hard to work in but I think the 6 sided ring is what made is iconic
Whilst touring the world with Deep Purple, Hogan had to sell his 80% ownership of Blockbuster video to afford Impact Wrestling. After he got done training Kurt Angle for the Olympics Hogan would go on to found Ring of Honour and form Nirvana brother.
All while touring with Metallica as their bassist.
???
@@Deadpool_64?
Now with the TNA & WWE NXT tie up now I wish TNA Originals who are currently working in WWE either as a wrestler or producer role just show up in TNA I mean the likes of Roode, Abyss & most importantly AJ Styles
Roode's reign was literally the only good thing to come out of that era. Well, I did kinda enjoy some Joker Sting as well...
Makes you wonder secretly if Hogan worked for Vince still
Because he stepped in & actually made TNA relevant/noteworthy?
What people don't realise about the 4 sided ring, is that TV executives around the world, aren't looking for a wrestling product that differs too much from the WWE. If they are going to have wrestling, they want to have it look like the WWE and they want it cheaper. They want you flipping on the channel and thinking you're watching the WWE. So you flip on AEW and you see a bunch of guys you're familiar with, in a setting you're familiar with.
For me I knew TNA(that version) wasn't going anywhere after Sting vs. Jeff Hardy... there were two bodies in that ring but only Sting showed up.
That 6man tag was in manchester! I saw this! It was epic!!
It turned into wcw 2.0
Everyone said the same about AEW
Dont get it. I thought the aces and eights story line was quite good
TNA legend Bobby Roode.
Beer Money Inc for life
Hogan: "I spent the entire day with the talent in the locker room" while arriving in a limo seconds before the promo
Bischoff: "Hulk and I are gonna turn this company upside down" that's exactly what they did too, killed another promotion😂
Dixie: "Hogan is the rocket fuel we need to go to new heights" Hulk Hogan was the fuel. THE GAS THAT BURNED THE ENTIRE BUILDING DOWN!
The writing was on the wall when Dixie held a meeting for the boys, on the show, where she essentially said "Hogan's coming in, don't like it? Go fuck yourself." and then TNA went rapidly downhill.
He looks like a young Dave Meltzer
Hogan destroyed TNA like he did with wcw
Yet history is so kind to him dont get it.
Why does everyone put Hogan on a pedestal? Bc he paved the way for the future of wrestling? There’s hundreds of other wrestlers that are far better than this creep.
Love-Bobby-Roode😄
Good interview
I'm going to simp for Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff a second.
I think it sucks that Hulk and Eric get a lot of hate for "killing" TNA. At the end of the day the decision was made to hand them creative control and power (probably by Dixie Carter). All they did was sign the deals because why wouldn't they? I won't deny that TNA went downhill as soon as both of them were brought in, but it's not their fault they were given all that power. I think Dixie or whoever should have made the decision to bring them in as talent and not bend over backwards for them. TNA was doing extremely well by that point and I loved it, but it was just a mess once they went to Mondays.
TNA/Impact really isn't anywhere near what it used to be while under them.
Anthem are so cheap, looking at the product hurts my eyes
0:11 "I can't really put a finger on what exactly changed." How about starting with that thing you guys were wrestling inside of that stole what made TNA original and special?
A whole lot of wrestlers hated the six sided ring
Love it or hate it the 6 sided ring gave TNA an identity of its own, shame they didn’t bring it back with the recent return to the TNA name because now its just the same as any other wrestling company unfortunately without the 6 sided ring.
TNA was doomed when they signed 39yr RVD in March and had him go over AJ Styles in April on a episode of Impact (AJ Styles was the longest TNA Champion at the time)
He was only 39??? I thought he was much older.
Dude, freekng La Knight is 39, probably 40 now and receiving the biggest push in his life.
@@ohmannotnow272Knight is over 40
Hogan and Bischoff *COMPLETELY DESTROYED* TNA!
I've been a fan of Bobby since he threatened to kick a little person all the way from San Jose to Sacramento on the Howard Stern show
The only good person he brought in was Ken Anderson. Team 3D losing every match to the fing hobbled Nasty Boyz , does anyone remember the crowd turning backs to the ring when Val Venis beat Daniel's?
TNA changed to lame sports entertainment and WWE lite once Hogan and Bischoff got there. Before that TNA was more unique with the in ring action and the six sided ring. One of the best things to come out of that era of TNA was Bobby Roode getting a long reign as world champion.
The 6 sided ring was trash
Their women's division was the best in the world until Hogan and company ruined it.
@TheFunkyDomination No it was not
@@LlyodLlwelleyn it wasn't trash it was unique and different. I actually went to a live event and stepped inside the 6 sided ring. It gave TNA an identity that set them apart from WWE.
baby… the SECOND that ring turned square… smh
6 sided ring was fresh tho
The four sided Ring shouldn't have been changed ever.
It was cool at first when hogan was there but they try to head to head against wwe and that was a horrible idea
The quality of matches when Hogan was in TNA didn't change? Go watch those Hogan main events and tell me about it. It is outrageous to say that Hogan's era of TNA was the same quality of match and most of the promos sucked too that he was in. He was an unnecessary addition to the product, TNA could not afford it and I want someone to sing Hogan's praises in TNA when Scott Steiner is in the room and then I'll see how strong the Hogan flavoured Kool Aid actually is.
Hogan destroyed TNA
Crazy he’s a 69 in wwe2k24
Bobby can’t say anything bad about Hogan and Bischoff because all 3 of them are on WWE’a payroll
6 sided ring was better for me
What does he mean he doesn't know what it was? They moved away from their identity and tried to be a sanitised more traditional wrestling show.
Started moving away from Nigel Mcguiness/Pope, AJ styles, Samoa Joe and focused on Kennedy, Orlando Jordan and Nasty Boys.
The work rate dropped, there was less flips and ring psychology and more Rob Terry types.
Like that wasn't happening before Hogan showed up
@@MrPerfect2000Z They were bringing in indy workers or wwe cast offs that could wrestle not old has beens that woukd just be collecting a pay cheque. Or Orlando Jordans who was just brought in to make headlines not for his in ring work.
Name a big stiff to the level of Rob Terry that was hired pre hogan and Bishofff fam.
@@kreed82 Dude guys like fucking Steiner, Rikishi, the ECW Originals like Dreamer and Sandman, Scott Hall were in and out of TNA BEFORE Hogan showed up.
They wanted to bring in David Arquette in 2007 and got Pacman Jones in the midst of his legal issues and NFL suspension to be a champion.
They bumped their own guys down for any cast off they could sign. LAX gets knocked down because the out of shape Dudleys gotta be pushed, Monty Brown gets the shaft because mid card babyface Christian has to be world champion (apparently), Mick Foley gets to be World Champion in 2009. It says something to me when AJ Styles was still being called "The Future" in 2007 after being champion 3 times...that's how bad of a job they were doing at making their own guy actually look like something.
And you say Rob Terry, I'll raise you the Johnsons, David Young and Trytan. At least Rob Terry has his stuff with Robbie E going for him, those guys have got nothing by comparison
@@MrPerfect2000Z those ppl that you mentioned still had worth, could steiner go in the ring? No but his mic skills especially on MainEvent mafia was entertaining. Dreamer and those ecw guys like RvD and Rhino were still producing.
By the time dudleys came to TNA they had a lot left in the tank. In the midst of "competing" with wwe of course using marquee names that were free agents would be more beneficial than using tried/tested indy talent that have not moved the needle.
Monty Brown left on his own accord had nothing to do with Christian. Can't believe you are comparing these talents to Nasty Boys, Horace Hogan e.t.c
TNA became watchable because of Hogan and Bischoff
TNA in those days were like big boys without big boy pants. And so there was too much chafing and things ripped apart
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I'm not a TNA fan but even I know changing from the 6 sided ring was a stupid decision. The 6 sided ring is what made they different.
Should've stuck with 6 sided!!!!
Wow....
Bobby Rhoode could just never find himself in TNA
Same can be said for his wwe run
Did you not watch during his championship run?
@Kancerru he just never evolved
You mean in wwe right? In TNA when paired with Tracey Brooks he was one of the goat heels in the business. Just naturally detestable had a great throwback look and aura to him with the hair and robe.
@@SteamyMckbeam-fk4ft Agree to disagree, I guess.
so it slowly went to shit.
The time where hulk hogan and Eric b killed TNA
Exactly!💯%
You have to be breathing to get killed though.
Ha.
They may have dealt the death blow and drove the end of TNA into light, but don't forget that it was Dixie Carter who started the death of TNA to begin with... After all, SHE is the one who lobbied with the uppers in management, SHE pleaded and begged with Hogan and Bischoff to come in together, She started all of it and even said She would back the payments if they wanted more $$$ than the head honchos were willing to pay to get them there... And to be 100% honest, if it was only Bischoff and not also Hogan things would've been 1000 times better off. Like look at WCW, things were actually not as horribly bad as they ended up being when it was only Bischoff there before Hogan showed his ugly mug... Yeah the 83 weeks thing happened after Hogan got there, but that was the same type of response that made Hogan wanna have another run in WWE in the early to mid 2000's... It was a nostalgia pop making his Ego inflate and making him think that he was still wanted around that did it... Hogan should've retired in the 90's when he realized he wasn't wanted
@@Am0ment0fBeven if it was assisted breathing, like life support or an iron lung, they were still breathing until that point
@@josephalonzo1059 but, in your scenario, you're proving my point. They were about to die regardless of Hogan and Bischoff. They kept it going. Without them, Tna would be dead. Think about it.
Ha.
Can we get a Hogan/Bischoff AEW run
More people would actually watch Aew. And that is sad. But compared to how aew is ran. But true.
Tony Khan said that Hogan is banned from AEW
Don't cry when you wanted ratings and star power ..... and more money.
the day hogan and bischoff showed up was the day i stopped watching
They ruined wcw and tna..screw both bischoff and hogan.
Eric saved WCW. Turner Sports ruined & killed WCW
WCW not really, Tna yes
The merger deal killed wcw, they made it very clear they didn't want wrestling programs, it was dead the minute the merger happened
@@watersandblue6001 they ruined TNA by rebranding it to Impact Wrestling. There was no need to Rebrand that company
Hogan did great for WCW. Ever hear of the NWO?
Hogan and the ring is why I stopped watching
What has Roode ever done to get more eyes to watch TNA? Not saying Hogan and Bischoff didn't do any damage. But Spike TV paid for their contracts not Dixie. And Spike also had more eyes watching than Roode at the top could have ever dreamed of. What I am saying is. He has no stroke to talk down about it. Someone who has lots of success does have stroke. Like I could understand if Kurt Angle or Sting had a problem. Not a guy who couldn't draw much when he was in TNA. Hell he was always forgettable in wwe.
For most part nobody drew in TNA. Lol.
Sting and Kurt angle may have drawn more money than anyone on the roster because they were established while Sting was an icon and legend.
But the rest for most part weren't big enough stars to draw eye balls. Most people who loved AJ styles or Daniels was more of a wrestling mark who prefered something over WWE.
I would say bringing in RVD, jeff Hardy, Scott Steiner, Hogan, Booker T did grab more eye balls than AJ styles or some guy from TNA would.
If AJ or some other guy did that they wouldn't push the older stars.
Even today fans don't get the business. Pushing a good worker never makes money. Pushing stars is what makes money.
TNA failed mainly because they didn't know who their top star was. Who was really their draw.
At least WCW knew Hogan and Goldberg are the main draws. Then Flair, Sting, Luger and Savage were below. And even NWO was a draw.
So after a while TNA failed because they didn't know what to do.
Wish they never brought him in…
Well they got rid of that goofy ass 6 sided ring that hurt like hell to bump in so thats a plus
Great for talent not so great for fans you werent talent buddy
Hogan has DESTROYED TNA
Yawwwwn.
Did not has
I knew it was Hogan when the Ring Changed!!!
Actually Bischoff did that one.
@@Violent_Wolfen Yeah but it changed as Hogan stepped in. I wouldn't Doubt it if he had a Word in it.