I bought a Honda Cr250r 2020 and I’ve rode it on a few tracks, but Its my first bike and I’ve only been on it twice and these videos are really helping me out! Thanks for the content!
Great stuff and eventually this will all come natural. Thanks for remembering all the new riders out there. These kind of tips are better than learning the hard way if you know what I mean. Cheers
2:30 I’m the reverse. I found it much easier to start with front brake because I ride mountain bikes. The lever was more appealing than the pedal, but I need to use rear more
@@benw96 Same! right now my wrist is immobilized in a cast for 3 weeks. Only one more week to go. But I'm probably not on my bike until the end of summer. :( I'm a Beginner and I find it hard to rear break and even shift with those Motocross boots.
No you got it good,I just listen to u and think of what I've done and learned,to add stuff to this but I like that drill,about braking and carrying moment without using the gas at all that really the trick,I see so many riders so hard on the rears and there moms second cousin sister husband the second one told them never to touch the front brake,he neglected to tell u once u get a little better u can start using it a little at a time,its important to have good even firm pressure on both hand grips while using the front brake and be ready to counter steer a slide keeping ur weight back is so true dirtbikes have a lot of suspension travel and u really have to exaggerate moving your weight back to over the rear because much weight goes forward on its own,being smooth on the brakes is the safestvthinh u can practice it takes time...I remember the first national I watched Binghamton N Y,BROOME TIOGA super fast down hills these guys were amazing seem less and I was so jealous of how good pros were on the brakes,I grew up and started on a four stroke,in 1978 ish,and a four stroke engine braking is like ABS in your car its such a good natural brake if u learn to brake as good as the downshift you will on your way,practice is key and patience a little at a time starting out on a flat piece of ground and learning how to get your bike to turn and then using the brakes at the same time is something that should be auto magic,so practice and repetition is key,timing is what u need to develope,when u are new your sense of timimg will be rough,so practice...I was lucky I got a old Honda four stroke and my parent had an acre and half and I was allowed to use half of it for my own motocross track it wasn't to fancy just a good 40 feet wide by 187 feet long oval that allowed me to almost get to 5 gear as I got better and I had a real good variety if six or so different size berms or turns that I made by riding that kept it changing so u don't get lazy sitting in the seat,one of the things I did early in my riding career was practicing flipping the track and turning the other direction to the right with ur foot up which really put pressure and makes u focus on balance,a lot of riders as fearful of this as using the front brake,what wimps...why would they put a front brake lever right there next to the throttle if it was important,hello MCFLY,keep your elbows up,just secret watch the pros when ever u can notice what they do different and try to notice their body's position in certain places and you will find it will help,start slow and learn to master the bikes controls before u think about going faster...it a gradule process,don't get hurt and ride for life.
No, this technique is not used on dirt bikes. You usually down-shift on hard deceleration without using the clutch or in the air. So, it doesn't make any sense to blip the throttle.
Practice being as smooth as possible when applying the brakes and throttle. Don't stab the brakes or whack the throttle wide open. Be smooth with everything so your suspension is settled and balenced.
Will generally use the front brake for extra stopping power. When I do use it, it’s usually quick light taps because the front tire needs some momentum.
Big key is when u go out and practice stuff try and ride at least one day a week,if u don't ur muscles and your brain,the control center,will not remember what your practice d if it was too long ago,at least when you start out,try to practice before forget what u learned,I used to ride,when I was 15 years old I practiced on average 3 to 4 hours a day,when I got better ivstepped that up to 5 to 6 hours a day during school and when school was out 10 to 11 hours a day,hey most of y'all probably would be able to do that.I was lucky my Honda could take that much if I would have had race bike I would have needed factory support and 20 bikes back in the 1978,I did that for 15 months till I got a car.Have fun.one of the biggest things that helped me was a pro instructional video...they really helped after watching. It...I started looking at the way my friends ride and thinking dorks are so clueless...and so was I.
I always use clutch when I’m braking just so I don’t stall, I’m no expert rider though. There might be better techniques but what I’ve been doing has worked for me
Well... If you let it coast from high rpms without clutch its hurting the engine (not getting enough lubrication) i would just pull the clutch in because 2 strokes have almost zero engine braking compared to 4 strokes and you are not gonna stall it if you pull it in
It depends on the turn. If you're going to brake slide, you need to pull the clutch in at the apex to not stall it. In other situations don't pull in the clutch, or pull it in half way, but keep controlling your brakes at all times, otherwise your bike will be riding you.
im wondering about one thing, i saw and heard people telling you dont need clutch when upshifting or downshifting, tryed it couple times without clutch, it goes easy, but wont that damage the bike? i got yamaha yz450f 2009 4 stroke
Hey one big safety tip I will suggest,if u are going out for you first time on a motocross one thing I will share with you for safety is two things to watch out for:number one is:it will be wet if u are out in the first session so be careful because it will be extra slippery if its your first practice ride.number 2:if there are a lot of riders and u have a soft track it will be really rough as the day gets later a ton of riders all brake in the same spot in every turn so be ready for level of roughness to increase and the bumps to be twice as big as the first session or bigger,so watch for really bad holes,and if its muddy try to stay in the rut or take a differentvline before u get to the bad holes. Because if your in deep ruts you are not going to get out easy before get to a hole u trying to avoid....God for bid your at one of those tracks that loves to over water the track,just be careful,one thing I learned very quickly racing on soft dirt,a real motocross track get way rougher than a trail or your woods track,because ofcthevnumber if riders and the skill of PROS tearing it up,fortunately I like it super rough,but it a surprise be ready for...dang ride a line on the track don't change line like a drunk driver,if u ride on the right side if the track and have a problem pull off the track to the right,don't go shooting across to the left,and especially don't change your line before a jump get away from the jump before or after it a ways before. U pull off,be aware of where u are on the track and remember there are fast riders coming up from behind u and they are expectant u to be in one spot when they come by so just take it slow and steady u are not the only one on the track....just mainly be aware if how rough it will get and get your body position ready for bumpy stuff stand. Get ur legs ready to soak up hard hits....don't slam the brakes on either steady gas,believe it or not learning to use the gas smooth out the rough stuff when u learn how...plus body position...another thing too is if your local track go-ahead and get a good set of racing tire s for that soil, a 990 for soft,752 for mixed,if its hard pack get two good front and rear s,that will make a big difference in controlling your bike,biggest tip don't ride your new tire on the pave ment u just wasted a 100 dollars,because u ruined your new soft terrain tire for use in the mud,that hadda hurt...piece out.
Ive got a brand new bike and i feel my rear brake doesnt have the stopping power of my front brake. Are all bikes like this or should i adjust my setup?
Alot of this advice is specific to already-prepared, well-maintained, heavily-used tracks. How does braking differ on an empty trail in the middle of the forest?
Thnx for video very helpful. Anyone can guide me wheres from i can get right front frok for my WR250F 2009 My friend is also in long Islands he can purchase it for me. I'm from Pakistan 🇵🇰
@@rmatvmc Ah cool, haven't been there since they changed even though it's super close to my house. Milestone, Glen Helen or Cahuillia is where it's at!
When using the downshift to help brake into a corner be nice to your transmission I was so bad luckily I didn't hurt mine Honda makes a good strong bike I did my best to try and kill it...
Lol dirtbikes have a constent mesh transmission and you can not hurt it by banging gears up or down. You dont even need to use your clutch. The clutch is to take off and to regulate the power transfer of your drive train to your wheels. Not exactly sure what you mean by "being nice to your transmission" but happy trails and landings!!!
I'm a shit dirt rider so I'm really curious about this. Why would you want to give up 10 feet of braking before the turn? Is trail braking not a thing on dirt? Seems like if you have 10 feet of coasting, you could gain time every corner by moving your brake marker closer and not using any time coasting.
10 feet is just a simple guideline but holds true in most corners. It takes a split second to cover 10 feet on a dirt bike, even when slowing down. In most cases, if you tried to brake later than this, you'll end up braking too far into the turn and not setting up properly. You want to have your braking done as you enter so you can focus on technique and carry momentum through. - Chase
Engine braking is soooooo important and often overlooked when newbs get on a big powerful machine. I do mostly enduro riding with alot of steep grades and can't imagine not using the engine to control the bike.
4:15 Sorry mate... getting all of your braking done before the corner is not the best or most efficient way to ride. Trail Braking is hands down, the best method.
@@Strasky_96 It's actually the fastest way. Look at Ken Roczen or any other fast guy with good style out there, they always control their brakes till the apex. It gives you way more traction and control, because applying a little bit of brake settles down the suspension and allows you to make your radius smaller / wider at an instant which is crucial for taking over. What is explained in the video is a mid-pack C rider style. Good riders transition smoothly from braking into acceleration with nothing in between. And it's especially important on a 2 stroke due to little engine braking.
Flying Lap Productions actually it is when u brake in a corner it’s harder to turn because it stands ur bike up and second look at all the pro riders they get all their braking done before to corner now maybe on asphalt that’s faster but on dirt braking before is 100% faster and safer I’ve been riding for a while so I would know
Aleks Nestserau braking later most of that time increases lap times because if u enter to fast ur exit speed is gonna be trash and exit speed is way more important than entry
@@dustymorris9191 I ride a thumper and big engine braking is actually a negative thing to me. So easy to loose momentum or go over the bars on jumps. Motor engineers even take steps to reduce engine braking (like affecting the angle of the throttle valve). So while a little of engine braking is useful, big engine braking of a thumper is not beneficial at all.
Aleks Nestserau actually ur wrong the whole purpose off engine braking is to brake harder so u can hold the gas longer and second that’s car engineers not bikes and engine braking doesn’t really affect the bike in the air so please learn what ur talking about
k&w video's wrong. Engine braking a two stroke is not dangerous. It’s even been tested that in fact, it does not cause the engine to seize. There is still gas and oil coming through the engine when you don’t give it gas so the cylinder is still getting plenty of lubrication keeping it from getting too hot and seizing up.
I bought a Honda Cr250r 2020 and I’ve rode it on a few tracks, but Its my first bike and I’ve only been on it twice and these videos are really helping me out! Thanks for the content!
Glad they're helping you out! - Chase
Thanks for the video!! Im just startinf to get into racing and see i have a LOT to learn. 💪😃👍
Great stuff and eventually this will all come natural. Thanks for remembering all the new riders out there. These kind of tips are better than learning the hard way if you know what I mean. Cheers
😂I did, i fell of my dirtbike and my knee got swollen, im still recovering its been about 3 weeks
@@alexhidalgo5966 How you making out now?
@@bunnyman6321 I’m better now but took me 2 months. I had strained some muscles
This is helpful awesome videos and keep up all the awesome work
Glad you liked it, Lance! Hopefully they help you out.
Ya it did I have a race tomarrow and it helped a lot
Nice! Good luck out there! Keep er' pinned.
Great tips for an old road racer learning to dirt ride in his old age!
2:30 I’m the reverse. I found it much easier to start with front brake because I ride mountain bikes. The lever was more appealing than the pedal, but I need to use rear more
same here i always end up locking the rear and stalling or never finding the pedal
I broke my wrist with this mindset, front wheel locked up and went down onto my wrist. Rear brake is important
@@benw96 Same! right now my wrist is immobilized in a cast for 3 weeks. Only one more week to go. But I'm probably not on my bike until the end of summer. :( I'm a Beginner and I find it hard to rear break and even shift with those Motocross boots.
Hard breaking with locked front is good drill!
It scares the s----out of you first. But better to practice that and be able to handle it in a pinch.
Awesome video mate thanks keep IT rolling 🏁🏁👌
You bet. Glad you liked it. Keep it on two!-Chase
I definitely need to work on my braking ratio because I hardly ever touch my rear brake, like once or twice a ride😬
No you got it good,I just listen to u and think of what I've done and learned,to add stuff to this but I like that drill,about braking and carrying moment without using the gas at all that really the trick,I see so many riders so hard on the rears and there moms second cousin sister husband the second one told them never to touch the front brake,he neglected to tell u once u get a little better u can start using it a little at a time,its important to have good even firm pressure on both hand grips while using the front brake and be ready to counter steer a slide keeping ur weight back is so true dirtbikes have a lot of suspension travel and u really have to exaggerate moving your weight back to over the rear because much weight goes forward on its own,being smooth on the brakes is the safestvthinh u can practice it takes time...I remember the first national I watched Binghamton N Y,BROOME TIOGA super fast down hills these guys were amazing seem less and I was so jealous of how good pros were on the brakes,I grew up and started on a four stroke,in 1978 ish,and a four stroke engine braking is like ABS in your car its such a good natural brake if u learn to brake as good as the downshift you will on your way,practice is key and patience a little at a time starting out on a flat piece of ground and learning how to get your bike to turn and then using the brakes at the same time is something that should be auto magic,so practice and repetition is key,timing is what u need to develope,when u are new your sense of timimg will be rough,so practice...I was lucky I got a old Honda four stroke and my parent had an acre and half and I was allowed to use half of it for my own motocross track it wasn't to fancy just a good 40 feet wide by 187 feet long oval that allowed me to almost get to 5 gear as I got better and I had a real good variety if six or so different size berms or turns that I made by riding that kept it changing so u don't get lazy sitting in the seat,one of the things I did early in my riding career was practicing flipping the track and turning the other direction to the right with ur foot up which really put pressure and makes u focus on balance,a lot of riders as fearful of this as using the front brake,what wimps...why would they put a front brake lever right there next to the throttle if it was important,hello MCFLY,keep your elbows up,just secret watch the pros when ever u can notice what they do different and try to notice their body's position in certain places and you will find it will help,start slow and learn to master the bikes controls before u think about going faster...it a gradule process,don't get hurt and ride for life.
What's about revs up technique on the braking and downshifting. It's prevent to block rear. Is it good idea for dirt bikes or not?
No, this technique is not used on dirt bikes. You usually down-shift on hard deceleration without using the clutch or in the air. So, it doesn't make any sense to blip the throttle.
Practice being as smooth as possible when applying the brakes and throttle. Don't stab the brakes or whack the throttle wide open. Be smooth with everything so your suspension is settled and balenced.
Smooth on a 125 2 stroke is near impossible 😂
Joseph Elefante i can do it easily but it can be tough😂
This is why I look at comments their is alto of info
Will generally use the front brake for extra stopping power. When I do use it, it’s usually quick light taps because the front tire needs some momentum.
UA-cam didn't exist when I started riding motocross. This kind of stuff could have saved me from injury.
Big key is when u go out and practice stuff try and ride at least one day a week,if u don't ur muscles and your brain,the control center,will not remember what your practice d if it was too long ago,at least when you start out,try to practice before forget what u learned,I used to ride,when I was 15 years old I practiced on average 3 to 4 hours a day,when I got better ivstepped that up to 5 to 6 hours a day during school and when school was out 10 to 11 hours a day,hey most of y'all probably would be able to do that.I was lucky my Honda could take that much if I would have had race bike I would have needed factory support and 20 bikes back in the 1978,I did that for 15 months till I got a car.Have fun.one of the biggest things that helped me was a pro instructional video...they really helped after watching. It...I started looking at the way my friends ride and thinking dorks are so clueless...and so was I.
Great video, but to do it better could you please add a summary of the five tips at the end of each video? Thanks a lot
I ride a yz 125, should i pull in the clutch while braking?
Hayden Willie keep power to the rear wheel and controls power with your clutch as braking.
I always use clutch when I’m braking just so I don’t stall, I’m no expert rider though. There might be better techniques but what I’ve been doing has worked for me
Well... If you let it coast from high rpms without clutch its hurting the engine (not getting enough lubrication) i would just pull the clutch in because 2 strokes have almost zero engine braking compared to 4 strokes and you are not gonna stall it if you pull it in
It depends on the turn. If you're going to brake slide, you need to pull the clutch in at the apex to not stall it. In other situations don't pull in the clutch, or pull it in half way, but keep controlling your brakes at all times, otherwise your bike will be riding you.
You should pull in the clutch while breaking because it is less chance of stalling
Well for me that is
im wondering about one thing, i saw and heard people telling you dont need clutch when upshifting or downshifting, tryed it couple times without clutch, it goes easy, but wont that damage the bike? i got yamaha yz450f 2009 4 stroke
No of course not these bikes are a constant mesh transmission they are built to shift without the clutch
who else things the 16-18 KXs looked better than the 19?
MTB nah the bike actually looks really nice it’s just that the stock muffler is ginormous and ugly
19 is awesome bike. He just needs a pipe
Hey one big safety tip I will suggest,if u are going out for you first time on a motocross one thing I will share with you for safety is two things to watch out for:number one is:it will be wet if u are out in the first session so be careful because it will be extra slippery if its your first practice ride.number 2:if there are a lot of riders and u have a soft track it will be really rough as the day gets later a ton of riders all brake in the same spot in every turn so be ready for level of roughness to increase and the bumps to be twice as big as the first session or bigger,so watch for really bad holes,and if its muddy try to stay in the rut or take a differentvline before u get to the bad holes. Because if your in deep ruts you are not going to get out easy before get to a hole u trying to avoid....God for bid your at one of those tracks that loves to over water the track,just be careful,one thing I learned very quickly racing on soft dirt,a real motocross track get way rougher than a trail or your woods track,because ofcthevnumber if riders and the skill of PROS tearing it up,fortunately I like it super rough,but it a surprise be ready for...dang ride a line on the track don't change line like a drunk driver,if u ride on the right side if the track and have a problem pull off the track to the right,don't go shooting across to the left,and especially don't change your line before a jump get away from the jump before or after it a ways before. U pull off,be aware of where u are on the track and remember there are fast riders coming up from behind u and they are expectant u to be in one spot when they come by so just take it slow and steady u are not the only one on the track....just mainly be aware if how rough it will get and get your body position ready for bumpy stuff stand. Get ur legs ready to soak up hard hits....don't slam the brakes on either steady gas,believe it or not learning to use the gas smooth out the rough stuff when u learn how...plus body position...another thing too is if your local track go-ahead and get a good set of racing tire s for that soil, a 990 for soft,752 for mixed,if its hard pack get two good front and rear s,that will make a big difference in controlling your bike,biggest tip don't ride your new tire on the pave ment u just wasted a 100 dollars,because u ruined your new soft terrain tire for use in the mud,that hadda hurt...piece out.
I would like to add break adjustment to get you breaks reacting like you want them.
Thanks, Dusty. That is a good point to make. Have fun out there!-Chase
Ive got a brand new bike and i feel my rear brake doesnt have the stopping power of my front brake. Are all bikes like this or should i adjust my setup?
Rear brake naturally doesn't have same braking power as the front brake.
Is trail braking a viable technique for MX? I see that he does not trail brake, but road racers do.
Alot of this advice is specific to already-prepared, well-maintained, heavily-used tracks.
How does braking differ on an empty trail in the middle of the forest?
It’s the exact same
Same same but different
Great vid when you're riding a 2 joker make Shure u don't engine break it's bad for it
No, it won't do anything bad at all for a few moments of engine braking you need on the track, because there is always some premix at the crank.
Aleks Nestserau also the fuel isn’t completely shut off so it’s still getting a little lubricant
Thnx for video very helpful.
Anyone can guide me wheres from i can get right front frok for my WR250F 2009
My friend is also in long Islands he can purchase it for me.
I'm from Pakistan 🇵🇰
@salt gamingg 🤣
@salt gamingg dear i won two race's on my WR. One motocross and other one is enduro race.
Don't think I've seen a video from Rocky Mountain from Milestone before.
Right?! We were down there for the Fox media launch the new Fox Raceway so we figured we'd get in some seat time at MS.
@@rmatvmc Ah cool, haven't been there since they changed even though it's super close to my house. Milestone, Glen Helen or Cahuillia is where it's at!
I have a hard time using the front brake. Fear is a helluva drug.
En los baches antes de la curva como es conveniente frenar?
No
When using the downshift to help brake into a corner be nice to your transmission I was so bad luckily I didn't hurt mine Honda makes a good strong bike I did my best to try and kill it...
Lol dirtbikes have a constent mesh transmission and you can not hurt it by banging gears up or down. You dont even need to use your clutch. The clutch is to take off and to regulate the power transfer of your drive train to your wheels. Not exactly sure what you mean by "being nice to your transmission" but happy trails and landings!!!
I'm a shit dirt rider so I'm really curious about this. Why would you want to give up 10 feet of braking before the turn? Is trail braking not a thing on dirt? Seems like if you have 10 feet of coasting, you could gain time every corner by moving your brake marker closer and not using any time coasting.
10 feet is just a simple guideline but holds true in most corners. It takes a split second to cover 10 feet on a dirt bike, even when slowing down. In most cases, if you tried to brake later than this, you'll end up braking too far into the turn and not setting up properly. You want to have your braking done as you enter so you can focus on technique and carry momentum through. - Chase
Engine braking is soooooo important and often overlooked when newbs get on a big powerful machine. I do mostly enduro riding with alot of steep grades and can't imagine not using the engine to control the bike.
Jesus Christ that exhaust is huge on that kawi😂
Were you praying ? If so sorry i didnt close my eyes. Call upon the name of God when in need ,not in vain....
Nobody That Matters ??
does this work for enduro ?
You bet!
sdq sdq look up Johnny walker or graham jarvis enduro back breaks are the wave
I took the breaks off my 2019 yz450f, I don’t need’m they just slow me down.💪
That's a great idea. I took the wheels off my bike to save on weight
So break a little bit before the turn 🤔
I did this and flipped over the handlebars. What am I doing wrong ?
You’re suppose to stay on. That’s what you did wrong. Hope this helps. 😆
Nah, I’m learning too. You’re probably riding like a pro now. Good luck! 🙂
@@lukefish7562 😂😂 it was a joke
@@zone23shooter2 😂 mine wasn’t! 🤣
4:15
Sorry mate... getting all of your braking done before the corner is not the best or most efficient way to ride. Trail Braking is hands down, the best method.
agreed and it will keep the rear of the bike settled in the corner is done proper
@@dustymorris9191 but its not fast
@@Strasky_96 It's actually the fastest way. Look at Ken Roczen or any other fast guy with good style out there, they always control their brakes till the apex. It gives you way more traction and control, because applying a little bit of brake settles down the suspension and allows you to make your radius smaller / wider at an instant which is crucial for taking over. What is explained in the video is a mid-pack C rider style. Good riders transition smoothly from braking into acceleration with nothing in between. And it's especially important on a 2 stroke due to little engine braking.
Flying Lap Productions actually it is when u brake in a corner it’s harder to turn because it stands ur bike up and second look at all the pro riders they get all their braking done before to corner now maybe on asphalt that’s faster but on dirt braking before is 100% faster and safer I’ve been riding for a while so I would know
Flying Lap Productions and u ride mtb that’s totally different from dirt bikes
my hydro. front brake is shot from stoppies
using motorcycle brakes are usually considered a coward's activity , when in doubt gas it up ;) BTW you forgot about trail braking.
Sure, the later you brake the better are your lap times. And to brake really late you need to have big balls.
Aleks Nestserau braking later most of that time increases lap times because if u enter to fast ur exit speed is gonna be trash and exit speed is way more important than entry
@@harpermx2962 but you lose you brake pads earlier what is bad for environment....
Wild One wut r u talking about u need better grammar
Im on a 85 and i use engine braking
if thats the case your going to love thumpers when you get to them in big bike classes
@@dustymorris9191 I ride a thumper and big engine braking is actually a negative thing to me. So easy to loose momentum or go over the bars on jumps. Motor engineers even take steps to reduce engine braking (like affecting the angle of the throttle valve). So while a little of engine braking is useful, big engine braking of a thumper is not beneficial at all.
Aleks Nestserau actually ur wrong the whole purpose off engine braking is to brake harder so u can hold the gas longer and second that’s car engineers not bikes and engine braking doesn’t really affect the bike in the air so please learn what ur talking about
That silencer kills the look of the bike. Just looks way, way out of place.
Alot of these things become instinctual over time if a rider just takes the learning process knowing his own skill and practices good common sense.
Very true. Muscle memory.
But don’t brakes slow you down?
Isn’t that the point
That kx stock pipe looks too big for the bike
That's what she said
But I’m on a 2 stroke
So you don't jus squeeze the shit out of em?
Important!!! Dont use the clutch, when you’re breaking!!
Jan H why?
CharlX Gagnon because it’s slower and more dangerous
maybe it should be mentioned for 2stroke noobies that its dangerous to engine brake a 2 stroke.
k&w video's wrong. Engine braking a two stroke is not dangerous. It’s even been tested that in fact, it does not cause the engine to seize. There is still gas and oil coming through the engine when you don’t give it gas so the cylinder is still getting plenty of lubrication keeping it from getting too hot and seizing up.
lol @k&w videos's idiotic commando keyboard warrior comment. Thank you for correcting him @ 20yt03
T Del how exactly am I a keyboard warrior? I didn’t go picking any fights you guys just came at me
Hide yourself pls
4 strokes break themselves 😂
To get faster you must be slower
Take your brakes off your bike. You don't need them